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=== AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell
iahello. I have a question about AppIndicator - could anyone tell me, please, how to "append"/"attach" some label/text right next to some appindicator's icon? (looks like it's possible - i mean indicator-me/indicator-datetime, which contains username/time). I've looked through source code, and looks like there is need some manipulation with IndicatorObjectClass (and get_label function) for that, but, first, there is no any word about this in ref manual ( http://peo11:03
iaple.canonical.com/~ted/libappindicator/current/AppIndicator.html ), and second, i would like to have it for pygtk. So, i will be very appreciate for any clues.11:03
kklimondaia: memenu isn't the same as appindicator12:14
kklimondaia: there is no way to attach text to the icon afaik12:14
=== MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch
iahowever, i decided to open wishlist bug - #541858 ; but, please, don't get me wrong - i'm not going to argue/spam/annoy - i've just would like to know (just in curiosity), why such trivial and useful thing not available as single call in api, although some indicators use it (as far as i know C, and looking at sources of indicator-me/indicator-datetime, it's appindicators, but it's also use IndicatorObjectClass for additional features). Sorry for disturbance.12:38
manishnigelb, you there?13:39
nigelbmanish: Yes.  13:39
manishI have been following you for a while.. good work for adopting Rhythmbox13:40
manishanyway. you from Bangalore.. right?13:40
nigelbyep13:40
manishi want some guidance for getting involved13:41
manishI have tried my best, but still don't get much time as I spend most of my time lurking13:41
manishsince even I dont have much time..13:42
nigelbdepends on where and how you want to contribute13:42
manishnigelb, havnt done more than bug triaging till now13:42
manishi tried XChat13:42
manishwanted Rhythmbox too13:42
manishbut Rhythmbox codebase is too complicated13:42
nigelbswitch to -bugs channel?13:43
manishsure13:43
jcastroagateau: ping14:08
agateaujcastro: pong14:08
jcastroagateau: doesn't amarok support KSNI? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-applet/+bug/54192014:08
ubot4`Launchpad bug 541920 in indicator-applet (Ubuntu) "No icon for Amarok in indicator-applet (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]14:08
agateaujcastro: it does14:09
jcastroany idea what's going on here?14:09
* agateau reads the report14:09
agateaujcastro: amarok generates custom ksni images which are sent by pixmaps (rather than sent by name)14:10
agateaujcastro: my guess would be that indicator-applet does not handle these14:10
agateauneed to check14:10
jcastroagateau: can you put that in the bug report and then assign it to .... I guess Ted?14:11
agateaujcastro: ok14:11
agateauI am going to try to reproduce first14:11
* agateau switches to gnome14:12
jcastroagateau: yeah it would suck if we've been telling people that this is great crossdesktop goodness and then ship it not-working-that-way.14:12
agateaui agree14:12
manishvish, how do you take part in 5-a-day?14:23
manishsince that python app has gone, so how do they track how much work is done?14:23
vishmanish: > #ubuntu-bugs14:32
qenseCould it be that checkbox states set in GtkActions don't get synced to AppInd menus?15:49
kklimondais the current theme and window controls final?16:52
kklimondapeople are actually making complains that they don't know if they can start preparing screencasts, screenshots etc. or is Mark going to decide to make the change16:53
vishkklimonda: it will be decided at the end of beta1  , well thats what sabdfl said on the bug17:02
vishkklimonda: we can ask them to use screenshots without the title bar instead , saves the anxiety ;)17:03
kklimondavish: but that's.. really bad :/17:03
kklimondashould all mono icons be moved to the ubuntu-mono package?18:30
vishkklimonda: aernt they already like that?18:34
kklimondavish: not all of them - the transmission icon isn't there for sure (and it has only "light" version so it looks really bad with Ambiance theme)18:38
vishkklimonda: ah those are from humanity which is required for other themes and the ubuntu-mono still hasnt updated with all the icons for the default theme18:39
kklimondavish: so all the others themes are going to have a dark icon for applications?18:39
kklimondaI'm pretty sure someone has complained that he has a dark icon for Transmission in docky instead of the normal one..18:40
vishkklimonda: its the theme's choice18:40
=== maxb_ is now known as maxb
qenseNafai: Do you happen to know whether AppInd also watches for changes to the Active state of GtkToggleActions?20:30
Nafaiqense: I thought that was something that was fixed a few weeks back20:30
Nafaijust a sec20:30
qenseok, thx for taking a look20:31
Nafaihrm, I could have swore there was a bug for this20:34
kklimondahmm.. there is a problem with transmission icon - when people (1) remove indicator-applications applet and (2) change the theme when transmission is runnning it can't find a new icon20:36
kklimondaqense: ^ can you take a look at this or do are you busy? if so I can dig though code20:37
Nafaiqense: I've been looking at notify-osd and I see you helped with the logging.  Any additional logging you think it needs?20:37
qensekklimonda: That's because of the way Transmission checks for the monochrome icon, it checks if there is an icon for the tray using Transmission's tray-icon-name. if not it uses the default icon name.20:38
qenseNafai: You mean the small patch I provided for saving the log files to $XDG_CACHE_HOME? I don't know much about the logging system of Notify OSD, so I'm afraid I can't help you. I just concentrated on the lines that had hardcoded the use of ~/.cache20:39
Nafaiqense: Ok, just curious, thanks.20:40
kklimondaqense: so the problem is that if it finds an icon under tray-icon-name it doesn't look under the default icon name even after user change the theme? and why does it happen only if transmission is running in the notification area?20:42
qenseyw20:42
qensekklimonda: Because if you're using the GtkStatusIcon the transmission-tray-icon variable is either the name of the tray icon or a compiled, hard-coded default icon. You can't pass image objects to the indicator, hence we had to use a different method for falling back.20:43
qensekklimonda: Do you want me to point you at the patch with the code?20:43
qenseNafai: MacSlow still has to merge my fix for Notify OSD. If you speak him could you remind him of that? I almost always miss him on IRC.20:44
kklimondaqense: please do20:44
Nafaiok, I might shoot him an email, I'll be sure to remind him20:44
qenseNafai: thanks20:45
qensekklimonda: Patch at <http://trac.transmissionbt.com/attachment/ticket/2900/icon_fallback_maybe_without_typo.patch>, bug report at <http://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/2900>.20:45
kklimondaqense: so the problem is this check is done only once and after the theme change we are still trying to use the wrong icon?20:47
kklimondathe old icon*20:47
qensekklimonda: yes20:48
qensekklimonda: But if you change the icon theme from a theme that does have, say, rhythmbox-panel, to a theme that doesn't have that icon, does AppInd refresh the icon in that case?20:48
kklimondaqense: yes - the only affected application is transmission and only when indicator-applications applet is removed..20:49
qenseremoved?20:49
kklimondawell, I've checked only rhythmbox so "the only affected" may not be true20:49
qenseSo when you're using the fallback system the icon doesn't get changed, but otherwise it does?20:50
qenseWhy would it?20:50
kklimondaqense: I have no idea but that's what I and the reporter are seeing and that's why I am confused a bit..20:51
qenseThe icon does work properly when you're _not_ using the fallback?20:52
qenseDoes it also change when you change the icon theme?20:52
kklimondaqense: it does change to the default Transmission icon if I'm _not_ using the fallback20:52
qenseThat's really weird.20:52
qensekklimonda: it could be that AppInd has got a bit more sophisticated fallback mechanism for the icons than the fallback system has.20:53
kklimondaqense: probably, I can check source and see if I find anything out20:54
qensekklimonda: That would be great.20:54
danyRhi there. just a quick question: is there anyway to acess appindicatores (and MeMenu) trough a keyboard shortcut?23:29

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