=== AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell [11:03] hello. I have a question about AppIndicator - could anyone tell me, please, how to "append"/"attach" some label/text right next to some appindicator's icon? (looks like it's possible - i mean indicator-me/indicator-datetime, which contains username/time). I've looked through source code, and looks like there is need some manipulation with IndicatorObjectClass (and get_label function) for that, but, first, there is no any word about this in ref manual ( http://peo [11:03] ple.canonical.com/~ted/libappindicator/current/AppIndicator.html ), and second, i would like to have it for pygtk. So, i will be very appreciate for any clues. [12:14] ia: memenu isn't the same as appindicator [12:14] ia: there is no way to attach text to the icon afaik === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:38] however, i decided to open wishlist bug - #541858 ; but, please, don't get me wrong - i'm not going to argue/spam/annoy - i've just would like to know (just in curiosity), why such trivial and useful thing not available as single call in api, although some indicators use it (as far as i know C, and looking at sources of indicator-me/indicator-datetime, it's appindicators, but it's also use IndicatorObjectClass for additional features). Sorry for disturbance. [13:39] nigelb, you there? [13:39] manish: Yes. [13:40] I have been following you for a while.. good work for adopting Rhythmbox [13:40] anyway. you from Bangalore.. right? [13:40] yep [13:41] i want some guidance for getting involved [13:41] I have tried my best, but still don't get much time as I spend most of my time lurking [13:42] since even I dont have much time.. [13:42] depends on where and how you want to contribute [13:42] nigelb, havnt done more than bug triaging till now [13:42] i tried XChat [13:42] wanted Rhythmbox too [13:42] but Rhythmbox codebase is too complicated [13:43] switch to -bugs channel? [13:43] sure [14:08] agateau: ping [14:08] jcastro: pong [14:08] agateau: doesn't amarok support KSNI? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-applet/+bug/541920 [14:08] Launchpad bug 541920 in indicator-applet (Ubuntu) "No icon for Amarok in indicator-applet (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] [14:09] jcastro: it does [14:09] any idea what's going on here? [14:09] * agateau reads the report [14:10] jcastro: amarok generates custom ksni images which are sent by pixmaps (rather than sent by name) [14:10] jcastro: my guess would be that indicator-applet does not handle these [14:10] need to check [14:11] agateau: can you put that in the bug report and then assign it to .... I guess Ted? [14:11] jcastro: ok [14:11] I am going to try to reproduce first [14:12] * agateau switches to gnome [14:12] agateau: yeah it would suck if we've been telling people that this is great crossdesktop goodness and then ship it not-working-that-way. [14:12] i agree [14:23] vish, how do you take part in 5-a-day? [14:23] since that python app has gone, so how do they track how much work is done? [14:32] manish: > #ubuntu-bugs [15:49] Could it be that checkbox states set in GtkActions don't get synced to AppInd menus? [16:52] is the current theme and window controls final? [16:53] people are actually making complains that they don't know if they can start preparing screencasts, screenshots etc. or is Mark going to decide to make the change [17:02] kklimonda: it will be decided at the end of beta1 , well thats what sabdfl said on the bug [17:03] kklimonda: we can ask them to use screenshots without the title bar instead , saves the anxiety ;) [17:03] vish: but that's.. really bad :/ [18:30] should all mono icons be moved to the ubuntu-mono package? [18:34] kklimonda: aernt they already like that? [18:38] vish: not all of them - the transmission icon isn't there for sure (and it has only "light" version so it looks really bad with Ambiance theme) [18:39] kklimonda: ah those are from humanity which is required for other themes and the ubuntu-mono still hasnt updated with all the icons for the default theme [18:39] vish: so all the others themes are going to have a dark icon for applications? [18:40] I'm pretty sure someone has complained that he has a dark icon for Transmission in docky instead of the normal one.. [18:40] kklimonda: its the theme's choice === maxb_ is now known as maxb [20:30] Nafai: Do you happen to know whether AppInd also watches for changes to the Active state of GtkToggleActions? [20:30] qense: I thought that was something that was fixed a few weeks back [20:30] just a sec [20:31] ok, thx for taking a look [20:34] hrm, I could have swore there was a bug for this [20:36] hmm.. there is a problem with transmission icon - when people (1) remove indicator-applications applet and (2) change the theme when transmission is runnning it can't find a new icon [20:37] qense: ^ can you take a look at this or do are you busy? if so I can dig though code [20:37] qense: I've been looking at notify-osd and I see you helped with the logging. Any additional logging you think it needs? [20:38] kklimonda: That's because of the way Transmission checks for the monochrome icon, it checks if there is an icon for the tray using Transmission's tray-icon-name. if not it uses the default icon name. [20:39] Nafai: You mean the small patch I provided for saving the log files to $XDG_CACHE_HOME? I don't know much about the logging system of Notify OSD, so I'm afraid I can't help you. I just concentrated on the lines that had hardcoded the use of ~/.cache [20:40] qense: Ok, just curious, thanks. [20:42] qense: so the problem is that if it finds an icon under tray-icon-name it doesn't look under the default icon name even after user change the theme? and why does it happen only if transmission is running in the notification area? [20:42] yw [20:43] kklimonda: Because if you're using the GtkStatusIcon the transmission-tray-icon variable is either the name of the tray icon or a compiled, hard-coded default icon. You can't pass image objects to the indicator, hence we had to use a different method for falling back. [20:43] kklimonda: Do you want me to point you at the patch with the code? [20:44] Nafai: MacSlow still has to merge my fix for Notify OSD. If you speak him could you remind him of that? I almost always miss him on IRC. [20:44] qense: please do [20:44] ok, I might shoot him an email, I'll be sure to remind him [20:45] Nafai: thanks [20:45] kklimonda: Patch at , bug report at . [20:47] qense: so the problem is this check is done only once and after the theme change we are still trying to use the wrong icon? [20:47] the old icon* [20:48] kklimonda: yes [20:48] kklimonda: But if you change the icon theme from a theme that does have, say, rhythmbox-panel, to a theme that doesn't have that icon, does AppInd refresh the icon in that case? [20:49] qense: yes - the only affected application is transmission and only when indicator-applications applet is removed.. [20:49] removed? [20:49] well, I've checked only rhythmbox so "the only affected" may not be true [20:50] So when you're using the fallback system the icon doesn't get changed, but otherwise it does? [20:50] Why would it? [20:51] qense: I have no idea but that's what I and the reporter are seeing and that's why I am confused a bit.. [20:52] The icon does work properly when you're _not_ using the fallback? [20:52] Does it also change when you change the icon theme? [20:52] qense: it does change to the default Transmission icon if I'm _not_ using the fallback [20:52] That's really weird. [20:53] kklimonda: it could be that AppInd has got a bit more sophisticated fallback mechanism for the icons than the fallback system has. [20:54] qense: probably, I can check source and see if I find anything out [20:54] kklimonda: That would be great. [23:29] hi there. just a quick question: is there anyway to acess appindicatores (and MeMenu) trough a keyboard shortcut?