[11:03] <ia> hello. I have a question about AppIndicator - could anyone tell me, please, how to "append"/"attach" some label/text right next to some appindicator's icon? (looks like it's possible - i mean indicator-me/indicator-datetime, which contains username/time). I've looked through source code, and looks like there is need some manipulation with IndicatorObjectClass (and get_label function) for that, but, first, there is no any word about this in ref manual ( http://peo
[11:03] <ia> ple.canonical.com/~ted/libappindicator/current/AppIndicator.html ), and second, i would like to have it for pygtk. So, i will be very appreciate for any clues.
[12:14] <kklimonda> ia: memenu isn't the same as appindicator
[12:14] <kklimonda> ia: there is no way to attach text to the icon afaik
[12:38] <ia> however, i decided to open wishlist bug - #541858 ; but, please, don't get me wrong - i'm not going to argue/spam/annoy - i've just would like to know (just in curiosity), why such trivial and useful thing not available as single call in api, although some indicators use it (as far as i know C, and looking at sources of indicator-me/indicator-datetime, it's appindicators, but it's also use IndicatorObjectClass for additional features). Sorry for disturbance.
[13:39] <manish> nigelb, you there?
[13:39] <nigelb> manish: Yes.  
[13:40] <manish> I have been following you for a while.. good work for adopting Rhythmbox
[13:40] <manish> anyway. you from Bangalore.. right?
[13:40] <nigelb> yep
[13:41] <manish> i want some guidance for getting involved
[13:41] <manish> I have tried my best, but still don't get much time as I spend most of my time lurking
[13:42] <manish> since even I dont have much time..
[13:42] <nigelb> depends on where and how you want to contribute
[13:42] <manish> nigelb, havnt done more than bug triaging till now
[13:42] <manish> i tried XChat
[13:42] <manish> wanted Rhythmbox too
[13:42] <manish> but Rhythmbox codebase is too complicated
[13:43] <nigelb> switch to -bugs channel?
[13:43] <manish> sure
[14:08] <jcastro> agateau: ping
[14:08] <agateau> jcastro: pong
[14:08] <jcastro> agateau: doesn't amarok support KSNI? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-applet/+bug/541920
[14:08] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 541920 in indicator-applet (Ubuntu) "No icon for Amarok in indicator-applet (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[14:09] <agateau> jcastro: it does
[14:09] <jcastro> any idea what's going on here?
[14:09]  * agateau reads the report
[14:10] <agateau> jcastro: amarok generates custom ksni images which are sent by pixmaps (rather than sent by name)
[14:10] <agateau> jcastro: my guess would be that indicator-applet does not handle these
[14:10] <agateau> need to check
[14:11] <jcastro> agateau: can you put that in the bug report and then assign it to .... I guess Ted?
[14:11] <agateau> jcastro: ok
[14:11] <agateau> I am going to try to reproduce first
[14:12]  * agateau switches to gnome
[14:12] <jcastro> agateau: yeah it would suck if we've been telling people that this is great crossdesktop goodness and then ship it not-working-that-way.
[14:12] <agateau> i agree
[14:23] <manish> vish, how do you take part in 5-a-day?
[14:23] <manish> since that python app has gone, so how do they track how much work is done?
[14:32] <vish> manish: > #ubuntu-bugs
[15:49] <qense> Could it be that checkbox states set in GtkActions don't get synced to AppInd menus?
[16:52] <kklimonda> is the current theme and window controls final?
[16:53] <kklimonda> people are actually making complains that they don't know if they can start preparing screencasts, screenshots etc. or is Mark going to decide to make the change
[17:02] <vish> kklimonda: it will be decided at the end of beta1  , well thats what sabdfl said on the bug
[17:03] <vish> kklimonda: we can ask them to use screenshots without the title bar instead , saves the anxiety ;)
[17:03] <kklimonda> vish: but that's.. really bad :/
[18:30] <kklimonda> should all mono icons be moved to the ubuntu-mono package?
[18:34] <vish> kklimonda: aernt they already like that?
[18:38] <kklimonda> vish: not all of them - the transmission icon isn't there for sure (and it has only "light" version so it looks really bad with Ambiance theme)
[18:39] <vish> kklimonda: ah those are from humanity which is required for other themes and the ubuntu-mono still hasnt updated with all the icons for the default theme
[18:39] <kklimonda> vish: so all the others themes are going to have a dark icon for applications?
[18:40] <kklimonda> I'm pretty sure someone has complained that he has a dark icon for Transmission in docky instead of the normal one..
[18:40] <vish> kklimonda: its the theme's choice
[20:30] <qense> Nafai: Do you happen to know whether AppInd also watches for changes to the Active state of GtkToggleActions?
[20:30] <Nafai> qense: I thought that was something that was fixed a few weeks back
[20:30] <Nafai> just a sec
[20:31] <qense> ok, thx for taking a look
[20:34] <Nafai> hrm, I could have swore there was a bug for this
[20:36] <kklimonda> hmm.. there is a problem with transmission icon - when people (1) remove indicator-applications applet and (2) change the theme when transmission is runnning it can't find a new icon
[20:37] <kklimonda> qense: ^ can you take a look at this or do are you busy? if so I can dig though code
[20:37] <Nafai> qense: I've been looking at notify-osd and I see you helped with the logging.  Any additional logging you think it needs?
[20:38] <qense> kklimonda: That's because of the way Transmission checks for the monochrome icon, it checks if there is an icon for the tray using Transmission's tray-icon-name. if not it uses the default icon name.
[20:39] <qense> Nafai: You mean the small patch I provided for saving the log files to $XDG_CACHE_HOME? I don't know much about the logging system of Notify OSD, so I'm afraid I can't help you. I just concentrated on the lines that had hardcoded the use of ~/.cache
[20:40] <Nafai> qense: Ok, just curious, thanks.
[20:42] <kklimonda> qense: so the problem is that if it finds an icon under tray-icon-name it doesn't look under the default icon name even after user change the theme? and why does it happen only if transmission is running in the notification area?
[20:42] <qense> yw
[20:43] <qense> kklimonda: Because if you're using the GtkStatusIcon the transmission-tray-icon variable is either the name of the tray icon or a compiled, hard-coded default icon. You can't pass image objects to the indicator, hence we had to use a different method for falling back.
[20:43] <qense> kklimonda: Do you want me to point you at the patch with the code?
[20:44] <qense> Nafai: MacSlow still has to merge my fix for Notify OSD. If you speak him could you remind him of that? I almost always miss him on IRC.
[20:44] <kklimonda> qense: please do
[20:44] <Nafai> ok, I might shoot him an email, I'll be sure to remind him
[20:45] <qense> Nafai: thanks
[20:45] <qense> kklimonda: Patch at <http://trac.transmissionbt.com/attachment/ticket/2900/icon_fallback_maybe_without_typo.patch>, bug report at <http://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/2900>.
[20:47] <kklimonda> qense: so the problem is this check is done only once and after the theme change we are still trying to use the wrong icon?
[20:47] <kklimonda> the old icon*
[20:48] <qense> kklimonda: yes
[20:48] <qense> kklimonda: But if you change the icon theme from a theme that does have, say, rhythmbox-panel, to a theme that doesn't have that icon, does AppInd refresh the icon in that case?
[20:49] <kklimonda> qense: yes - the only affected application is transmission and only when indicator-applications applet is removed..
[20:49] <qense> removed?
[20:49] <kklimonda> well, I've checked only rhythmbox so "the only affected" may not be true
[20:50] <qense> So when you're using the fallback system the icon doesn't get changed, but otherwise it does?
[20:50] <qense> Why would it?
[20:51] <kklimonda> qense: I have no idea but that's what I and the reporter are seeing and that's why I am confused a bit..
[20:52] <qense> The icon does work properly when you're _not_ using the fallback?
[20:52] <qense> Does it also change when you change the icon theme?
[20:52] <kklimonda> qense: it does change to the default Transmission icon if I'm _not_ using the fallback
[20:52] <qense> That's really weird.
[20:53] <qense> kklimonda: it could be that AppInd has got a bit more sophisticated fallback mechanism for the icons than the fallback system has.
[20:54] <kklimonda> qense: probably, I can check source and see if I find anything out
[20:54] <qense> kklimonda: That would be great.
[23:29] <danyR> hi there. just a quick question: is there anyway to acess appindicatores (and MeMenu) trough a keyboard shortcut?