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tenachHello there, MadameTock02:05
MadameTockWell hello, tenach.02:07
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nomnexIs somebody using a Wiki around here? dokuwiki or moinmoin? Need advice04:05
nomnexnew question can you explain the function of the charactere ` ex. in php scripts04:38
PabloRubianesnomnex: moinmoin is whar the Ubuntu wiki uses... it's easy to write on it.04:45
PabloRubianesthe other question i don't know04:45
nomnexPabloRubianes, yes, moinmoin looks good on screen, do you or have you hosted you own wiki?04:46
PabloRubianesnomnex, no, I just write on the Ubuntu one, never hosted a wiki before...04:47
PabloRubianesdon't know which is easier to host04:47
nomnexPabloRubianes, thanks, any idea of the ` character in PHP or other scripting languages?04:48
PabloRubianesnomnex, what you need to do with a stress?04:48
nomnexPabloRubianes, so it's called a "stress" now I can seach for explanations thanks04:50
PabloRubianesnomnex, in common languaje that's a stress... spanish use it example "Día"04:51
PabloRubianesi am not sure or having saw that kind of stress on PHP but i am just a beginner on script programming04:52
nomnexPabloRubianes, when use to illustrate an explanation, do you have any idea of the use of the stress char? see example http://pastebin.com/hjYrzQPd04:53
PabloRubianespaultag, ping04:54
paultaghey PabloRubianes04:55
PabloRubianeshey paultag nomnex is having some problems with PHP I think you could help him better than I can ;-)04:56
paultagsure PabloRubianes04:56
paultagnomnex, what's up04:56
nomnexPabloRubianes, thanks04:56
PabloRubianesno problem!04:56
PabloRubianesbye guys!04:56
paultaglater PabloRubianes04:57
PabloRubianeslater paultag take care!04:57
nomnexpaultag, I just have a question about the stress char ` when it is used as an example (non code), can you take a look at the pastbin above, last line04:57
paultagsure04:58
paultagOne second04:59
nomnexpaultag, thanks04:59
paultagok nomnex, so do you not want to escape strings when writing that? Why use the ''' ?05:01
nomnexpaultag, my question is what difference between `world` and 'word' in some manuals for non snippet of code05:02
paultagnomnex, Ahha05:02
paultagnomnex, `foo` infers a command ( in some cases ) otherwise you can read it as the same as 'foo'05:02
nomnexpaultag, so `sometext` will indicate a command, I got it now05:03
paultagnomnex, that's by tradition only :)05:03
paultagit comes from bash nomnex -- FOO=`echo "Hai"` will store the output of echo "Hai" to $FOO in bash05:04
nomnexin the current example `---Old project 2 in my past bin, does it has a purpose or indication05:04
paultagno, that's to make it pretty nomnex05:04
paultagnomnex, it makes it look like a tree05:05
nomnexpaultag, `echo "Hai"`I got it05:05
nomnexpaultag, it makes it look like a tree, explain, the sub-dir project 1 has |--05:06
nomnexshouldn't project 2 be |-- too?05:06
nomnexpaultag, or ` mean another sub-level?05:07
paultagnomnex, it means a new sub-level05:07
paultagFoo05:07
paultag    |--> One05:07
paultag    |--> Two05:08
paultag    `--> Three05:08
paultagmakes it look nice :)05:08
nomnexpaultag, thanks, it that a convention or case by case?05:08
paultagnomnex, preface of the documenter05:08
nomnexpaultag, do you have a link where I can find these usages05:09
paultagnomnex, fraid not, it's usually just case by case05:09
nomnexI see, what would it be for Four?05:09
paultagnomnex, the ` ?05:10
nomnexyes05:10
paultagnomnex, treat it as decoration or as a ', or "05:10
nomnexokay so whatever would do in the case05:10
nomnexpaultag, thanks05:11
paultagnomnex, sure05:12
shredder12I am having some trouble installing steam in Ubuntu...any suggestion?09:02
pedro3005hey shredder1209:03
shredder12hi pedro300509:04
pedro3005shredder12, how are you attempting to install it?09:04
shredder12I downloaded the .msi file.. used the command "wine msiexec /i SteamInstall.msi", after the whole installation wizard finishes .. I get an error saying that I need to be connected to Internet in order to run Steam09:05
shredder12pedro3005, I use a proxy server to connect to Internet, could that be a problem?09:06
pedro3005shredder12, hm, let me research09:06
pedro3005shredder12, looked at this? http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-d582e2a4e92f4d8ae6c3401daebd7d5621eb220f09:07
shredder12well, I have already set the http_proxy variable...let me try tweaking the registry09:09
pedro3005shredder12, sorry, have to go off for school09:09
pedro3005good luck09:09
shredder12thanks pedro3005 c ya..09:09
Akoshi everyone10:45
Akosis there a shell command that helps me add something to the end of each line in a text file?10:46
shredder12Akos, if you mean append to a text file.. then try "tee -a"10:55
Akosi've search, and found sed s10:55
Akossed 's/$/;/' filename10:55
Akoswith -i10:55
Akos*searched10:56
Akosbrb lunch10:56
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meindian523nhandler, any idea when the Lucid beta is releasing today?12:21
meindian523ubuntugeek mistakenly posted 18th March as the date for the beta release12:23
meindian523hey swoody12:25
meindian523uh, over here swoody12:25
Silver_Fox_Hello meindian52312:27
meindian523hi Silver_Fox_12:27
Silver_Fox_March 18th was the original planned date.  It was set back until March 19th12:28
meindian523Silver_Fox_, well, it's not up yet12:28
Silver_Fox_It will be up when it is ready.12:28
Silver_Fox_meindian523,  An announcement was also made on the forum:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143311612:30
meindian523Silver_Fox_, Ah12:31
swoodygood morning Silver_Fox_ :)12:32
Silver_Fox_Hello swoody12:32
Silver_Fox_How are you ?12:32
swoodyoh not bad, thank you :) A bit early to be up on a Saturday though :/12:33
swoodyand yourself?12:33
Silver_Fox_Hacking away as usual =]12:33
Silver_Fox_Looking forward to 18:0012:34
Silver_Fox_Hello phillw12:34
phillwhi Silver_Fox_12:44
Silver_Fox_How are you?12:44
phillwI'm well, waiting for the beta's of 10.04 to land - How are you keeping ?12:45
Silver_Fox_Not too bad thank you.12:45
* ZachK_ waves to everybody 13:00
phillwhi ZachK_13:05
ZachK_Hello phillw13:05
ZachK_phillw: And how are you today?13:06
phillwi'm well, thanks, waiting for the beta's for 10.04 to land :-)  How are you ?13:07
ZachK_Tired........13:07
* ZachK_ snores13:07
phillwZachK_: too many late nights ?13:08
ZachK_Night shift at work13:08
phillwZachK_: I used to prefer night shifts13:09
Akosoh hey ZachK_, ltns (:13:10
ZachK_Two monsters and a mountain dew.....still tired too phillw... And hey back Akos my huddy!13:10
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aluexhi14:10
aluexwhat does the command "rctl" mean?14:10
aluexoh,i've got it. X)14:11
The_Flower_ManResistor Capacitor Transistor Logic14:11
grepFuHi I'm having some major issues with install dovecot15:41
grepFuI'm following the tutorials in "The Official Ubuntu Server Book" and have got the part about setting up a mail server, and installing dovecot... I can't install it, I was instructed to try to remove it, and no both apt-get remove and apt-get install spit out errors.15:42
nigelbgrepFu: can you pastebin the errors here.  I'm no sure I know whats wrong.  but someone who knows can take a look15:44
grepFuhttp://pastebin.com/mzfHRJnK15:45
The_Flower_Manchmod: cannot access `/var/run/dovecot': No such file or directory15:46
nigelbThe_Flower_Man: nice nickname ;)15:47
grepFuThe_Flower_Man : Didn't know what / if I should create it15:48
The_Flower_ManWhat do you mean you cannot install it?  Something like:   sudo aptitude install dovecot-imapd dovecot-pop3d15:50
grepFuThe paistbin is the output I get.15:50
The_Flower_ManHmmm15:51
nigelbgrepFu: why are you using the -f flag?15:51
grepFudoing apt-get but same difference.15:51
grepFuThe 3 things that strike out are15:51
grepFuNot replacing deleted config file /etc/dovecot/dovecot-sql.conf15:51
grepFuchmod: cannot access `/var/run/dovecot': No such file or directory15:51
grepFudpkg: error processing dovecot-common (--configure):15:51
grepFuWhich is depressing15:51
nigelbgrepFu: what release of Ubuntu are you running?15:52
grepFusaw it on another tutorial, well someone had the same problem, but that thread ended in 2008, and no body got back to them.15:52
grepFu8.04.2 LTS15:52
grepFuIf I don't use -f the output is the same.15:53
grepFuIts a dedicated server, I've done this before, and never had any problems running apt-get install on these packages.15:54
grepFuSSL wasn't working, so I was told to remove dovecot and postfix and reinstall, which I did, and now dovecot won't install.15:55
nigelbmy knowledge of server packages isn't enough to guide you from here. sorry :(15:56
grepFu:'(15:56
grepFuThe server book is pretty basic, not massively impressed with the email conf stuff, they seem to miss out alot.15:56
phillwgrepFu: are you after setting up a mail server ?16:16
grepFutrying to16:16
grepFuWas following the official server book, and got in a bit of a muddle.16:17
phillwdo you want clamav as your anti-viral agent, and anti-spam filtering ?#16:17
grepFuNot can't install devcot16:17
grepFucovecot16:17
grepFu*dovecot... also I can't type.16:17
phillwhmm, you maight want to have a look at http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/  It's nicely lain out and is ideal for a server16:20
phillwi set it up & it worked straight away... I was suprised :-D16:20
phillwI used release notes 8, as was not ready to start playing with clud stuff (I'm waiting for release notes 10 for that)16:22
phillwcluc=cloud16:22
grepFuYeah problem I have is I can't install Dovecot16:24
grepFuhttp://pastebin.com/MGNwf2W616:24
phillwgrepFu: have you manually deleted any of the dovecote stuff from a previous failed installation ?16:27
st4aluckCould somebody help me to configure tripwire? I installed it but something goes wrong18:01
yvanwow the channel is quiet!20:58
yvanwhere is everyone?21:19
hobgoblinyvan: possibly there is no-one about that needs help - the team channel moved a while ago21:20
yvanhobgoblin, well never knew that, what is the new channel?21:22
hobgoblinubuntu-beginners-team ;21:22
hobgoblin;)21:22
yvanhobgoblin, thanks man21:23
hobgoblinwelcome21:23
seidosI didn't know that either21:32
seidoshey, as a beginner I have a question21:32
seidoswhy doesn't yank work in vim for me?21:32
seidosI hit yy and it doesn't copy to the frame buffer21:32
seidosis that right?  frame buffer?21:32
seidoswell buffer at any rate21:33
phillwhi seidos, if you pop over to the communuty documentation on vim at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VimHowto that has an introduction and links to the full manuals for vim21:58
seidosphillw, you really think an answer to my question is in the full manuals?21:58
seidosI didn't know it was case sensitive22:07
seidosyG seems to work, but yg doesn't22:07
phillwseidos: I don't use vim, as no-one had answered in 20mins, that's the best I could do.22:23
phillwi use nano22:24
seidosphillw, ohhhhh.  I like the yank command in vim but it wasn't working22:24
seidosI think I figured it out though, partially because of your help.  thank you22:24
phillwseidos: yw22:26
ghostofmybrain_I'm trying to download the mumble server software using this link http://sourceforge.net/projects/mumble/files/Mumble/1.2.2/murmur-static_x86-1.2.2.tar.lzma22:50
ghostofmybrain_so I do wget http://sourceforge.net/projects/mumble/files/Mumble/1.2.2/murmur-static_x86-1.2.2.tar.lzma22:50
ghostofmybrain_but all it gives me for a download is index.html22:50
ghostofmybrain_what am I doing wrong?22:50
nhandlerghostofmybrain_: See if you can use http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/mumble/Mumble/1.2.2/murmur-static_x86-1.2.2.tar.lzma?use_mirror=iweb22:53
ghostofmybrain_that gives a 40422:55
ghostofmybrain_oops, mistake period in there22:55
ghostofmybrain_sorry I can't type.  That worked. Thanks.  So I was just using a bad link or something?22:57

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