[02:05] <tenach> Hello there, MadameTock
[02:07] <MadameTock> Well hello, tenach.
[04:05] <nomnex> Is somebody using a Wiki around here? dokuwiki or moinmoin? Need advice
[04:38] <nomnex> new question can you explain the function of the charactere ` ex. in php scripts
[04:45] <PabloRubianes> nomnex: moinmoin is whar the Ubuntu wiki uses... it's easy to write on it.
[04:45] <PabloRubianes> the other question i don't know
[04:46] <nomnex> PabloRubianes, yes, moinmoin looks good on screen, do you or have you hosted you own wiki?
[04:47] <PabloRubianes> nomnex, no, I just write on the Ubuntu one, never hosted a wiki before...
[04:47] <PabloRubianes> don't know which is easier to host
[04:48] <nomnex> PabloRubianes, thanks, any idea of the ` character in PHP or other scripting languages?
[04:48] <PabloRubianes> nomnex, what you need to do with a stress?
[04:50] <nomnex> PabloRubianes, so it's called a "stress" now I can seach for explanations thanks
[04:51] <PabloRubianes> nomnex, in common languaje that's a stress... spanish use it example "Día"
[04:52] <PabloRubianes> i am not sure or having saw that kind of stress on PHP but i am just a beginner on script programming
[04:53] <nomnex> PabloRubianes, when use to illustrate an explanation, do you have any idea of the use of the stress char? see example http://pastebin.com/hjYrzQPd
[04:54] <PabloRubianes> paultag, ping
[04:55] <paultag> hey PabloRubianes
[04:56] <PabloRubianes> hey paultag nomnex is having some problems with PHP I think you could help him better than I can ;-)
[04:56] <paultag> sure PabloRubianes
[04:56] <paultag> nomnex, what's up
[04:56] <nomnex> PabloRubianes, thanks
[04:56] <PabloRubianes> no problem!
[04:56] <PabloRubianes> bye guys!
[04:57] <paultag> later PabloRubianes
[04:57] <PabloRubianes> later paultag take care!
[04:57] <nomnex> paultag, I just have a question about the stress char ` when it is used as an example (non code), can you take a look at the pastbin above, last line
[04:58] <paultag> sure
[04:59] <paultag> One second
[04:59] <nomnex> paultag, thanks
[05:01] <paultag> ok nomnex, so do you not want to escape strings when writing that? Why use the ''' ?
[05:02] <nomnex> paultag, my question is what difference between `world` and 'word' in some manuals for non snippet of code
[05:02] <paultag> nomnex, Ahha
[05:02] <paultag> nomnex, `foo` infers a command ( in some cases ) otherwise you can read it as the same as 'foo'
[05:03] <nomnex> paultag, so `sometext` will indicate a command, I got it now
[05:03] <paultag> nomnex, that's by tradition only :)
[05:04] <paultag> it comes from bash nomnex -- FOO=`echo "Hai"` will store the output of echo "Hai" to $FOO in bash
[05:04] <nomnex> in the current example `---Old project 2 in my past bin, does it has a purpose or indication
[05:04] <paultag> no, that's to make it pretty nomnex
[05:05] <paultag> nomnex, it makes it look like a tree
[05:05] <nomnex> paultag, `echo "Hai"`I got it
[05:06] <nomnex> paultag, it makes it look like a tree, explain, the sub-dir project 1 has |--
[05:06] <nomnex> shouldn't project 2 be |-- too?
[05:07] <nomnex> paultag, or ` mean another sub-level?
[05:07] <paultag> nomnex, it means a new sub-level
[05:07] <paultag> Foo
[05:07] <paultag>     |--> One
[05:08] <paultag>     |--> Two
[05:08] <paultag>     `--> Three
[05:08] <paultag> makes it look nice :)
[05:08] <nomnex> paultag, thanks, it that a convention or case by case?
[05:08] <paultag> nomnex, preface of the documenter
[05:09] <nomnex> paultag, do you have a link where I can find these usages
[05:09] <paultag> nomnex, fraid not, it's usually just case by case
[05:09] <nomnex> I see, what would it be for Four?
[05:10] <paultag> nomnex, the ` ?
[05:10] <nomnex> yes
[05:10] <paultag> nomnex, treat it as decoration or as a ', or "
[05:10] <nomnex> okay so whatever would do in the case
[05:11] <nomnex> paultag, thanks
[05:12] <paultag> nomnex, sure
[09:02] <shredder12> I am having some trouble installing steam in Ubuntu...any suggestion?
[09:03] <pedro3005> hey shredder12
[09:04] <shredder12> hi pedro3005
[09:04] <pedro3005> shredder12, how are you attempting to install it?
[09:05] <shredder12> I downloaded the .msi file.. used the command "wine msiexec /i SteamInstall.msi", after the whole installation wizard finishes .. I get an error saying that I need to be connected to Internet in order to run Steam
[09:06] <shredder12> pedro3005, I use a proxy server to connect to Internet, could that be a problem?
[09:06] <pedro3005> shredder12, hm, let me research
[09:07] <pedro3005> shredder12, looked at this? http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-d582e2a4e92f4d8ae6c3401daebd7d5621eb220f
[09:09] <shredder12> well, I have already set the http_proxy variable...let me try tweaking the registry
[09:09] <pedro3005> shredder12, sorry, have to go off for school
[09:09] <pedro3005> good luck
[09:09] <shredder12> thanks pedro3005 c ya..
[10:45] <Akos> hi everyone
[10:46] <Akos> is there a shell command that helps me add something to the end of each line in a text file?
[10:55] <shredder12> Akos, if you mean append to a text file.. then try "tee -a"
[10:55] <Akos> i've search, and found sed s
[10:55] <Akos> sed 's/$/;/' filename
[10:55] <Akos> with -i
[10:56] <Akos> *searched
[10:56] <Akos> brb lunch
[12:21] <meindian523> nhandler, any idea when the Lucid beta is releasing today?
[12:23] <meindian523> ubuntugeek mistakenly posted 18th March as the date for the beta release
[12:25] <meindian523> hey swoody
[12:25] <meindian523> uh, over here swoody
[12:27] <Silver_Fox_> Hello meindian523
[12:27] <meindian523> hi Silver_Fox_
[12:28] <Silver_Fox_> March 18th was the original planned date.  It was set back until March 19th
[12:28] <meindian523> Silver_Fox_, well, it's not up yet
[12:28] <Silver_Fox_> It will be up when it is ready.
[12:30] <Silver_Fox_> meindian523,  An announcement was also made on the forum:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1433116
[12:31] <meindian523> Silver_Fox_, Ah
[12:32] <swoody> good morning Silver_Fox_ :)
[12:32] <Silver_Fox_> Hello swoody
[12:32] <Silver_Fox_> How are you ?
[12:33] <swoody> oh not bad, thank you :) A bit early to be up on a Saturday though :/
[12:33] <swoody> and yourself?
[12:33] <Silver_Fox_> Hacking away as usual =]
[12:34] <Silver_Fox_> Looking forward to 18:00
[12:34] <Silver_Fox_> Hello phillw
[12:44] <phillw> hi Silver_Fox_
[12:44] <Silver_Fox_> How are you?
[12:45] <phillw> I'm well, waiting for the beta's of 10.04 to land - How are you keeping ?
[12:45] <Silver_Fox_> Not too bad thank you.
[13:00]  * ZachK_ waves to everybody 
[13:05] <phillw> hi ZachK_
[13:05] <ZachK_> Hello phillw
[13:06] <ZachK_> phillw: And how are you today?
[13:07] <phillw> i'm well, thanks, waiting for the beta's for 10.04 to land :-)  How are you ?
[13:07] <ZachK_> Tired........
[13:07]  * ZachK_ snores
[13:08] <phillw> ZachK_: too many late nights ?
[13:08] <ZachK_> Night shift at work
[13:09] <phillw> ZachK_: I used to prefer night shifts
[13:10] <Akos> oh hey ZachK_, ltns (:
[13:10] <ZachK_> Two monsters and a mountain dew.....still tired too phillw... And hey back Akos my huddy!
[14:10] <aluex> hi
[14:10] <aluex> what does the command "rctl" mean?
[14:11] <aluex> oh,i've got it. X)
[14:11] <The_Flower_Man> Resistor Capacitor Transistor Logic
[15:41] <grepFu> Hi I'm having some major issues with install dovecot
[15:42] <grepFu> I'm following the tutorials in "The Official Ubuntu Server Book" and have got the part about setting up a mail server, and installing dovecot... I can't install it, I was instructed to try to remove it, and no both apt-get remove and apt-get install spit out errors.
[15:44] <nigelb> grepFu: can you pastebin the errors here.  I'm no sure I know whats wrong.  but someone who knows can take a look
[15:45] <grepFu> http://pastebin.com/mzfHRJnK
[15:46] <The_Flower_Man> chmod: cannot access `/var/run/dovecot': No such file or directory
[15:47] <nigelb> The_Flower_Man: nice nickname ;)
[15:48] <grepFu> The_Flower_Man : Didn't know what / if I should create it
[15:50] <The_Flower_Man> What do you mean you cannot install it?  Something like:   sudo aptitude install dovecot-imapd dovecot-pop3d
[15:50] <grepFu> The paistbin is the output I get.
[15:51] <The_Flower_Man> Hmmm
[15:51] <nigelb> grepFu: why are you using the -f flag?
[15:51] <grepFu> doing apt-get but same difference.
[15:51] <grepFu> The 3 things that strike out are
[15:51] <grepFu> Not replacing deleted config file /etc/dovecot/dovecot-sql.conf
[15:51] <grepFu> chmod: cannot access `/var/run/dovecot': No such file or directory
[15:51] <grepFu> dpkg: error processing dovecot-common (--configure):
[15:51] <grepFu> Which is depressing
[15:52] <nigelb> grepFu: what release of Ubuntu are you running?
[15:52] <grepFu> saw it on another tutorial, well someone had the same problem, but that thread ended in 2008, and no body got back to them.
[15:52] <grepFu> 8.04.2 LTS
[15:53] <grepFu> If I don't use -f the output is the same.
[15:54] <grepFu> Its a dedicated server, I've done this before, and never had any problems running apt-get install on these packages.
[15:55] <grepFu> SSL wasn't working, so I was told to remove dovecot and postfix and reinstall, which I did, and now dovecot won't install.
[15:56] <nigelb> my knowledge of server packages isn't enough to guide you from here. sorry :(
[15:56] <grepFu> :'(
[15:56] <grepFu> The server book is pretty basic, not massively impressed with the email conf stuff, they seem to miss out alot.
[16:16] <phillw> grepFu: are you after setting up a mail server ?
[16:16] <grepFu> trying to
[16:17] <grepFu> Was following the official server book, and got in a bit of a muddle.
[16:17] <phillw> do you want clamav as your anti-viral agent, and anti-spam filtering ?#
[16:17] <grepFu> Not can't install devcot
[16:17] <grepFu> covecot
[16:17] <grepFu> *dovecot... also I can't type.
[16:20] <phillw> hmm, you maight want to have a look at http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/  It's nicely lain out and is ideal for a server
[16:20] <phillw> i set it up & it worked straight away... I was suprised :-D
[16:22] <phillw> I used release notes 8, as was not ready to start playing with clud stuff (I'm waiting for release notes 10 for that)
[16:22] <phillw> cluc=cloud
[16:24] <grepFu> Yeah problem I have is I can't install Dovecot
[16:24] <grepFu> http://pastebin.com/MGNwf2W6
[16:27] <phillw> grepFu: have you manually deleted any of the dovecote stuff from a previous failed installation ?
[18:01] <st4aluck> Could somebody help me to configure tripwire? I installed it but something goes wrong
[20:58] <yvan> wow the channel is quiet!
[21:19] <yvan> where is everyone?
[21:20] <hobgoblin> yvan: possibly there is no-one about that needs help - the team channel moved a while ago
[21:22] <yvan> hobgoblin, well never knew that, what is the new channel?
[21:22] <hobgoblin> ubuntu-beginners-team ;
[21:22] <hobgoblin> ;)
[21:23] <yvan> hobgoblin, thanks man
[21:23] <hobgoblin> welcome
[21:32] <seidos> I didn't know that either
[21:32] <seidos> hey, as a beginner I have a question
[21:32] <seidos> why doesn't yank work in vim for me?
[21:32] <seidos> I hit yy and it doesn't copy to the frame buffer
[21:32] <seidos> is that right?  frame buffer?
[21:33] <seidos> well buffer at any rate
[21:58] <phillw> hi seidos, if you pop over to the communuty documentation on vim at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VimHowto that has an introduction and links to the full manuals for vim
[21:58] <seidos> phillw, you really think an answer to my question is in the full manuals?
[22:07] <seidos> I didn't know it was case sensitive
[22:07] <seidos> yG seems to work, but yg doesn't
[22:23] <phillw> seidos: I don't use vim, as no-one had answered in 20mins, that's the best I could do.
[22:24] <phillw> i use nano
[22:24] <seidos> phillw, ohhhhh.  I like the yank command in vim but it wasn't working
[22:24] <seidos> I think I figured it out though, partially because of your help.  thank you
[22:26] <phillw> seidos: yw
[22:50] <ghostofmybrain_> I'm trying to download the mumble server software using this link http://sourceforge.net/projects/mumble/files/Mumble/1.2.2/murmur-static_x86-1.2.2.tar.lzma
[22:50] <ghostofmybrain_> so I do wget http://sourceforge.net/projects/mumble/files/Mumble/1.2.2/murmur-static_x86-1.2.2.tar.lzma
[22:50] <ghostofmybrain_> but all it gives me for a download is index.html
[22:50] <ghostofmybrain_> what am I doing wrong?
[22:53] <nhandler> ghostofmybrain_: See if you can use http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/mumble/Mumble/1.2.2/murmur-static_x86-1.2.2.tar.lzma?use_mirror=iweb
[22:55] <ghostofmybrain_> that gives a 404
[22:55] <ghostofmybrain_> oops, mistake period in there
[22:57] <ghostofmybrain_> sorry I can't type.  That worked. Thanks.  So I was just using a bad link or something?