[00:00] <cjohnston> ic.. what is the reasoning hebind this decision?
[00:00] <cjohnston> behind
[00:05] <seb128> cjohnston, there is no tooltips on menus if those act as a menu now
[00:06] <seb128> and tooltips tend to clutter visually when not required
[00:06] <seb128> you can click on the icon it's almost no difference, same mouse position just a button to press
[00:06] <seb128> the battery info is in the menu directly
[00:08] <cjohnston> but then you have to click off to continue with whatever you were working on
[00:08] <cjohnston> so two extra steps
[00:09] <cjohnston> i realize they arent huge
[00:09] <cjohnston> but still
[00:18] <seb128> cjohnston, I'm not the one to discussion design with, try the ayatana mailing list
[00:18] <cjohnston> thanks seb128
[00:18] <seb128> cjohnston, but usually you shouldn't have to click often
[00:19] <seb128> volume, power, etc have icons which should be clear
[00:19] <cjohnston> my battery dies quick
[00:20] <seb128> well the icon + bubbles on low level are infos you need usually
[00:20] <seb128> but feel free to argue on the ayatana list or raise the topic there rather
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[00:21] <cjohnston> thanks
[00:21] <cjohnston> will do
[00:34] <nigelb> bug 541446
[00:34] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 541446 in ttf-okolaks (Ubuntu) "Sync ttf-okolaks 0.5-2.3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main) (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541446
[03:35] <Damascene> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-freefont/+bug/540042
[03:35] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 540042 in ttf-freefont (Ubuntu) "Freeserif Arabic version is broken (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[03:35] <Damascene> could any one help?
[03:36] <ddecator> can you be more specific about what "help" involves?
[03:55] <drew212> micahg: you there mate?
[03:56] <micahg> drew212: yes
[03:56] <drew212> micahg: want to look at that bug and try to triage it?
[03:56] <micahg> not at the moment :)
[03:56] <micahg> wrestling with a build error
[03:56] <drew212> micahg: its like a skeleton in my closet =P
[03:57] <ddecator> yay for build errors...
[03:57] <micahg> ddecator: I'm working on xulrunner 193 not building with gcc4.4 right now
[03:57] <drew212> i wish i had time to attend a bugday meeting with my loco so i could learn more about ubuntu and triaging but i just dont have time right now =X
[03:58] <micahg> drew212: tis ok, just ask questions :)
[03:59] <drew212> lol, well right now im working on physics, schrodringer's equation anyone? =D
[03:59] <ddecator> not so much...
[04:00] <ddecator> micahg: fair enough, haha, i'm going to try and figure out my problem somehow so you can concentrate on that
[04:00] <micahg> drew212: the bug is triaged and the bug isn't triaged :)
[04:00] <drew212> how's that?
[04:01] <micahg> schrodringer's cat :)
[04:01] <drew212> ohh, yes!
[04:01] <micahg> if I don't look at the bug tonight, it's triaged and not triaged ;)
[04:01] <ddecator> is that the cat in the box and there is no cat in the box+
[04:01] <ddecator> ?
[04:02] <micahg> ddecator: you don't know if the cat is alive or not, so he said that it's both alive and not alive
[04:02] <ddecator> micahg: ahhhh, that's the one...
[04:02] <ddecator> drew212: good luck with that =p
[04:02]  * micahg isn't sure which equation drew212 is working on
[04:03] <drew212> the probability equation =P
[04:03] <micahg> heh
[04:03] <drew212> i have to solve it for a system =X
[04:28] <drew212> i posted my question up on physics forums if anyone wants to look =P http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=2631177#post2631177
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[07:08] <thekorn> good morning
[07:08] <ddecator> mornin' thekorn
[07:08] <thekorn> hey ddecator
[07:49] <kermiac_> crimsun: I had linux-alsa-driver-modules-2.6.31-19-generic installed from ubuntu audio dev ppa on karmic. after .20 kernel update (a while ago) i lost sound. I fixed it by manually installing linux-alsa-driver-modules-2.6.31-20-generic from same ppa. I verified this on 2 diff config laptops. should these packages update automatically or do I have to manually install after a kernel revision update (i.e. if/when 2.6.31-21 is released)?
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[08:47] <BUGabundo_remote> bRoas
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[13:16] <EzraR> if a sound card is not listed in gnome-volume-control where do you guys think the bug might be?
[13:16] <EzraR> alsa? pulse?
[13:43] <manish> nigelb, yeah.
[13:43] <nigelb> manish: okay, so you're trying to contribute to triaging and feel a bit lost?
[13:43] <manish> i did traging since that takes least amount of time
[13:43] <nigelb> true
[13:44] <manish> and most of my contributions have basically been fixing papercuts
[13:44] <nigelb> first thing, triaging is not about fixing
[13:44] <manish> nigelb, i mean i tried fixing a few bugs
[13:44] <manish> mostly in papercuts
[13:45] <nigelb> What I'm trying to say is that you need not worry about the code base for adopting a package
[13:45] <manish> then?
[13:45] <nigelb> mostly, what you need to know is the package and how it works
[13:46] <nigelb> triagers dont fix bugs, we only make sure that its easier for the people who actually fix the bugs
[13:46] <manish> nigelb, that's what i usually did
[13:46] <manish> and sometimes fixed a few bugs too.. in papercuts
[13:46] <nigelb> that is great :)
[13:46] <nigelb> whats your LP ID?
[13:46] <manish> but couldn't fix more complicated bugs
[13:47] <manish> since codebase is not documented most of the time
[13:47] <nigelb> you dont need to worry much about fixing
[13:47] <manish> nigelb, look at this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/539847
[13:47] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 539847 in xchat (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "XChat should use the Humanity icon (affects: 1)" [Wishlist,Triaged]
[13:47] <manish> i filed it.. but no response upstream
[13:47] <manish> wanted to fix it downstream
[13:47] <manish> the codebase has lots of cryptic filesnames
[13:47] <manish> like inbound
[13:48] <nigelb> some upstreams might be unresponsive
[13:48] <manish> that's the problem
[13:48] <manish> i wanted to fix it downstream
[13:48] <manish> as i felt that upstream wont be interested
[13:49] <manish> since they want to make it distro agnostic
[13:49] <manish> my request was just to make xchat use the current theme's icon and use it's as the fallback
[13:49] <manish> nigelb, basically you look at the code or the packaging?
[13:50] <nigelb> manish: mostly packaging
[13:50] <manish> as MOTU?
[13:50] <nigelb> I tend to leave the actual fixing to upstream folks
[13:50] <nigelb> I'm not yet there, but working to MOTU
[13:50] <manish> packaging as in sense?
[13:51] <nigelb> manish: packing for Ubuntu/Debian
[13:51] <manish> even Debian? good
[13:51] <nigelb> getting the source and making them into .debs and into the repos
[13:51] <nigelb> (and making sure they work)
[13:52] <manish> i think the latter part is more important
[13:52] <nigelb> thats part of the thing ;)
[13:52] <nigelb> manish: what you do is actually awesome, you look into code written by others and fix it.  I can never do that
[13:53] <nigelb> the thing about contributions are you look at what you are good at and concentrate on that.
[13:53] <manish> nigelb, that is a pain..  since most open source project has undocumented codebase
[13:53] <manish> and cryptic filenames
[13:53] <manish> i tried fixing that bug
[13:53] <manish> but the filenames and variable names are just too complex
[13:54] <nigelb> manish: tried asking the good folks in ayatana about this?
[13:54] <manish> nigelb, asked vishnooo
[13:54] <manish> *Vishnoo
[13:54] <nigelb> manish: the mailing list/
[13:54] <manish> nope. not the list
[13:54] <nigelb> ask the list.  You might get help from someone who's itching to help.  Who knows
[13:54] <manish> will the changes be committed now?
[13:55] <manish> i think there are many freezes in effect
[13:55] <mrburns> hi manish:  i am interested in working on and fixing bugs what is a good way to learn or start?
[13:55] <manish> mrburns, this is what me and nigelb are discussing
[13:55] <nigelb> manish: well, it can be fixed for lucid+1
[13:55] <manish> mrburns, you know programming?
[13:56] <manish> nigelb, that is the only hope left
[13:56] <mrburns> manish: yeah i studied at school
[13:56] <manish> mrburns, C ?
[13:56] <mrburns> manish: mostly C++ but some C
[13:56] <manish> nigelb, when you started with contributing to Ubuntu?
[13:56] <manish> mrburns, I was looking at the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/539847
[13:56] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 539847 in xchat (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "XChat should use the Humanity icon (affects: 1)" [Wishlist,Triaged]
[13:56] <nigelb> manish: around sep 2009
[13:57] <manish> but looks a bit complex
[13:57] <manish> nigelb, cool.. and you now a ubuntu member?
[13:57] <nigelb> manish: yep
[13:57] <manish> who sponsored?
[13:57] <nigelb> there is no sponsorship.  you apply to regional membership board and they look at your contributions and decide
[13:58] <manish> you must have showed your contributions to Rhythmbox
[13:58] <nigelb> that was only part of it.
[13:59] <nigelb> I'm part of at least 6 teams
[13:59] <nigelb> and there were fair number of contributions on all of them
[13:59] <manish> I have been using it since 3.5 years
[13:59] <manish> it = Ubuntu
[13:59] <manish> but never was able to contribute much
[14:00] <nigelb> manish: if you have a lack of time, thats understandable :)
[14:01] <nigelb> I just took a look at the bugs you've triaged and its 32
[14:01] <manish> nigelb, sort of.. sometimes very free, sometimes very busy
[14:01] <manish> 32 is still a small number
[14:01] <nigelb> I'd encourage doing 5 a day
[14:02] <nigelb> its a best way to learn.  I used to it.  Until I got too much pressed for time
[14:02] <nigelb> nowadays I just pick a day and do only triage
[14:02] <manish> i used to do 5-a-day around 1.5 yrs back
[14:02] <manish> but then left it
[14:02] <nigelb> did you have a mentor in bug squad?
[14:03] <manish> nigelb, nope :(
[14:03] <nigelb> manish: ask for one then :)
[14:03] <mrburns> nigelb: should i just work on triaging for now before i get into fixing bugs
[14:03] <manish> mrburns, do triaging
[14:03] <manish> it's the basic thing
[14:04] <nigelb> mrburns: triage first I'd say.  then the odd bug you feel you can fix, you can try and fix.  something like a typo or spell error or some easy stuff
[14:04] <manish> nigelb, ^^ +1
[14:04] <mrburns> manish: yeah i have done a little triaging but still need to learn a lot
[14:05] <nigelb> mrburns: get stuck, ask here
[14:05] <manish> mrburns, i have been doing triaging since last 2 years, but never got time to do more
[14:06] <nigelb> hggdh: you around?
[14:06] <mrburns> manish: should i just stick to certain types of bugs to learn or just pick some at random
[14:06] <manish> mrburns, which you understand
[14:06] <manish> or traig bugs for those packages which you use a lot
[14:06] <manish> like vlc
[14:07] <manish> firefox
[14:07] <manish> xchat, pidgin, empathy
[14:07] <mrburns> mansih: ok i use those a lot like vlc, firefox, pidgin, empathy
[14:08] <manish> mrburns, this is what I am also thinking of doing
[14:08] <manish> I am returning back to 5-a-day after 1.5 yrs
[14:08] <mrburns> manish: yeah i am starting off with one a day until i get the hang of it
[14:09] <manish> mrburns, it's all a learning process
[14:09] <nigelb> mrburns: all of started the same way... 1 a day, 2 a day
[14:09] <manish> one huge minus point with me is that I have never fixed any serious bug
[14:09] <manish> and I am not regular
[14:09] <manish> so was asking nigelb how to contribute regularly. as he does
[14:10] <nigelb> manish: well, again, fixing bugs is not what bug squad does :)
[14:10] <manish> nigelb, many people of bug squad might also like to fix
[14:11] <nigelb> yes, but after a good hand at traiging we get an idea of what is easy to fix
[14:13] <manish> nigelb, thanks :)
[14:14] <nigelb> manish: any help you need, feel free to ask.  I should be online around this time
[14:15] <manish> nigelb, I think there was an python application for 5-a-day
[14:15] <manish> IIRC
[14:16] <nigelb> manish: thats all gone now
[14:16] <manish> nigelb, then? how they track 5-a-day?
[14:16] <manish> they simply don't track?
[14:16] <nigelb> manish: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day
[14:16] <manish> I saw that, but earlier they used to track
[14:16] <nigelb> now we use a cron based on launchpadlib I think
[14:17] <nigelb> http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/five-a-day/
[14:17] <nigelb> manish: ^ it spits out this report
[14:17] <manish> what is launchpadlib based cron?
[14:19] <nigelb> launchpadlib is a python module that communicates with LP
[14:19] <nigelb> so, this report directly takes the data and generates the report at a particular point of time
[14:20] <manish> nigelb, I know about launchpad API
[14:20] <manish> but had no idea launchpadlib does that
[14:21] <nigelb> manish: its a bit troublesome to work with since documentation is not great, but manageable for stuff lke these
[14:21] <manish> i was trying to write a wrapper in C#.NET for LP API
[14:21] <manish> signing works like a charm
[14:22] <nigelb> thats cool :)
[14:22] <manish> but when requesting data, I get  401. Even after banging my head and asking on mailing lists
[14:22] <manish> i could not get any response
[14:22] <manish> If I could get past that HTTP 401, I can complete that whole wrapper
[14:22] <manish> I am confident
[14:23] <nigelb> manish: talk to wgrant when you can catch him.
[14:24] <manish> nigelb, he maintains LP?
[14:25] <manish> or LP API?
[14:25] <nigelb> manish: neither.  he's hacked a lot around it
[14:25] <nigelb> he pretty much knows it inside out
[14:25] <manish> I don't think wgrant is out here
[14:25] <nigelb> he must be asleep.  its way late there
[14:26] <nigelb> manish: re: tracking 5-a-day, you just join the team and keep your mail visible and it will be tracked
[14:26] <manish> I dont need to worry about that... earlier 5-a-day had the provision that no two people work on the same bug
[14:26] <manish> so that work isnt duplicated
[14:27] <manish> that was the best thing I found out
[14:32] <vish> manish: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~5-a-day/five-a-day-stats/trunk/annotate/head%3A/simple-mailinglist-parser
[14:32] <manish> vish, thanks. looking at it
[14:32] <vish> manish: that is what is being used to determine the member activity
[14:33] <manish> vish, got it
[14:33] <manish> vish, i asked since long back it used a pythonapp made by dholback
[14:33] <manish> *dholbach
[14:34] <vish> manish: if you have doubts you can ask the_korn or bd_murray , they wrote it i guess
[14:34] <manish> vish, thanks.
[14:44] <jibel> seb128: do you know if there is an open bug for the behavior of the proxy field in last comment of bug 494373
[14:44] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 494373 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-network-properties sets $http_proxy incorrectly (affects: 3) (dups: 2)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494373
[14:44] <seb128> no clue
[14:44] <seb128> I've no special interest in proxy and have been basically ignoring comments about those
[14:44] <jibel> seb128: oh ok. Who has interest ?
[14:45] <seb128> dunno if somebody has
[14:45] <seb128> you?
[14:45] <seb128> mvo maybe
[14:45] <jibel> yep, I guess so
[14:46]  * mvo looks
[14:46] <jibel> I'll file a report and a fix.
[14:46] <mvo> cool
[14:53] <hggdh> nigelb: yes?
[14:54] <nigelb> hggdh: where's the link to mentors wiki? been huting for like an hour :)
[14:56] <hggdh> nigelb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors
[14:56]  * nigelb fails at searching Ubuntu/debian stuff
[14:56] <hggdh> :-)
[14:57] <nigelb> manish: still around?
[14:58] <nigelb> hggdh: removed mine and chris's name from mentors since we're already bug squad :0
[14:58] <nigelb> manish: you can request a mentor at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors and someone would pick you up :)
[15:00] <hggdh> then wait... be patient
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[15:21] <micahg> cjohnston: why didn't you wait for retrace on your thunderbird bug?
[15:30] <cjohnston> micahg: ?
[15:30] <micahg> cjohnston: the thunderbrid bug still had a need-retrace tag
[15:31] <cjohnston> ok.. you mean by deleting the coredump.gz
[15:31] <micahg> cjohnston: yes
[15:31] <cjohnston> oh
[15:31] <cjohnston> i didnt know that.. :-x
[15:32] <cjohnston> so next time wait for the retrace before removing the coredump?
[15:32] <mrand> cjohnston: yes.  As long as the retracer hasn't visited, if you might be able to add it back to the bug
[15:33] <micahg> cjohnston: yeah, the retracer will remove if retrace is successful
[15:33] <cjohnston> ahh
[15:33] <cjohnston> gotcha
[15:33] <micahg> cjohnston: the key is to look at the retrace tags/and or the retracer comments to see where the retracer is
[15:34] <mrand> man, I speaks poorly this morning ;-)     If that jibberish wasn't clear, I mean to say that I'll bet that you can add the coredump.gz back to the bug as long as the retracer hasn't visited it.
[15:35] <cjohnston> mrand: where would i find the coredump.gz?
[15:35] <micahg> cjohnston: be sure to make private again first
[15:35] <cjohnston> ok
[15:35] <micahg> cjohnston: actually, better off resubmitting the crash report as private
[15:35] <micahg> and marking this one as a dupe
[15:35] <mrand> cjohnston: do you have the URL of the coredump that was attached?
[15:36] <mrand> launchpad is not fast about deleting the file.
[15:36] <micahg> mrand: actually it is now :)
[15:36] <mrand> usually it's in the email
[15:36] <cjohnston> yes
[15:36] <cjohnston> reattaching
[15:37] <cjohnston> maybe not.. the url gave no such resource
[15:37] <micahg> right
[15:37] <mrand> looks like micahg was right then... it used to be very slow.  now it appears very fast ;-)
[15:37] <cjohnston> well... it crashes a couple times a day.. so ill do another one next time..
[15:39] <ia> hello. maybe anyone has some thoughts about this - #541858
[15:39] <cjohnston> bug 541858
[15:39] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 541858 in indicator-application "python bindings for libappindicator don't provide method to set [custom] label (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541858
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[18:17] <vish> nigelb: hey.. interested for writing an apport hook for cheese? seems we dont have one and the bugs aernt reaching upstream
[18:18] <nigelb> vish: sure :) just let me know what details need to be collected
[18:18] <vish> reaching upstream is a different issue though ;)
[18:19] <vish> nigelb: cool ... your mail id is ?
[18:19] <nigelb> nigelbabu@u.c
[18:22] <vish> nigelb: sent , thanks :)
[18:23] <nigelb> vish: you know that it may not get into lucid
[18:24] <vish> nigelb: hmm... cheese is not in the main right , so not even for that?  anyway it would be useful for later too ;)
[18:24] <chrisccoulson> nigelb / vish - apport hooks are generally ok to add even at this stage of the cycle
[18:24] <vish> \o/
[18:24] <nigelb> chrisccoulson: oh great :) I'll get to it over the weekend
[18:25] <chrisccoulson> cool, thanks!
[18:25] <vish> chrisccoulson: thank you :)
[18:25] <nigelb> vish: open a wishlist bug and assign to me?
[18:26] <vish> nigelb: righto on it
[18:37] <nigelb> vish: assign to me :)
[18:37] <nigelb> not subscribe me ;)
[18:38]  * vish scratches head 
[18:38] <vish> am i seeing something different Bug #542091
[18:38] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 542091 in cheese (Ubuntu) "Add apport hook for cheese (affects: 1)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/542091
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[18:42] <nigelb> vish: the assignment mail came later :p
[18:42] <vish> nigelb: ;)
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[18:42] <nigelb> back to fixing debian bug
[19:11] <nigelb> micahg: lol, trolling on identi.ca I see :p
[19:12] <micahg> nigelb: trolling?
[19:12] <nigelb> micahg: j/k :)
[19:15] <micahg> nigelb: someone has to defend Ubuntu :)
[19:16] <nigelb> micahg: I'm really proud of what you do there, but doesn't mean I can't pull your leg about it.. hehe :D
[19:18] <micahg> nigelb: I'm higher than #600 now :)
[19:18] <nigelb> micahg: o_0
[19:20] <jcastro> micahg: ooh, link?
[19:20] <micahg> jcastro: http://macno.org/denticator/?user=micahg&service=identi.ca&chart=flash
[19:33]  * greg-g is 136
[19:33] <greg-g> http://macno.org/denticator/?user=greg&service=identi.ca&chart=html5
[19:59] <hggdh> is there a bug opened for the GNOME sudo interface (for example, trying to run synaptic)
[19:59] <hggdh> ?
[20:35] <alex_mayorga> just had a kernel oops Bug #542178
[20:35] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 542178 in linux (Ubuntu) "BUG: scheduling while atomic: swapper/0/0x10000100 (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/542178
[20:35] <alex_mayorga> this on lucid fully updated
[20:35] <alex_mayorga> anyone that can guide me?
[20:36] <alex_mayorga> the system seems stable afterwards though
[21:11] <alex_mayorga> no one?
[21:11] <BUGabundo> hey alex_mayorga
[21:11] <BUGabundo> sup?
[21:12] <alex_mayorga> kernel oops
[21:12] <BUGabundo> lucid?
[21:12] <alex_mayorga> yup
[21:12] <alex_mayorga> Bug #542178
[21:12] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 542178 in linux (Ubuntu) "BUG: scheduling while atomic: swapper/0/0x10000100 (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/542178
[21:14] <alex_mayorga> might be a dupe after all but as the seemingly duplicate was already fix released I submitted, am I doing the wrong thing?
[21:16] <qense> Is that a troll in the last comment of bug #422536, or someone who seriously thinks something is hacking him?
[21:16] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 422536 in linux (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 5 other projects) "EDAC amd64: WARNING: ECC is NOT currently enabled by the BIOS. Module will NOT be loaded. (affects: 901) (dups: 113)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/422536
[22:00] <mrburns> hi all i am new to triaging for bug 277386 i am thinking setting status to incomplete and asking what account they are using and what language they are using when it crashes...any thoughts?
[22:01] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 277386 in enchant (Ubuntu) "Empathy crashes when spell check enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277386
[22:17] <hggdh> qense: I frankly cannot understand what the poster is talking about
[22:17] <qense> hggdh: I hope he won't scare the users; there is already enough 'activity' in that report.
[22:21] <hggdh> heh. already on 0x100
[23:11] <^arky^> Please have look at this bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dots/+bug/541721
[23:11] <ubot4`> ^arky^: Error: Bug #541721 is private.
[23:12] <^arky^> Please have look at this bug 541721
[23:12] <ubot4`> ^arky^: Bug 541721 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/541721 is private
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[23:45] <bibinou> hi
[23:45] <bibinou> can someone help me to report a bug ?
[23:46] <simosx> Just tried Ubuntu 10.04 Beta1. There is a bug during install, when showing the keyboard layout names, when these are translated to non-latin.
[23:46] <simosx> Which program is the 'installer' that allows to select the keyboard layout? I want to file a report.
[23:47] <bcurtiswx_> ubiquity i think simosx
[23:47] <simosx> bibinou: for general help, there is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[23:48] <simosx> bcurtiswx_: the layout names appear as ???? which is an encoding problem, found in all non-Latin scripts (Russian, Greek, etc).
[23:48] <bibinou> simosx: actually, i'm trying to use apport-cli and/or apport bug
[23:49] <simosx> bibinou: ok. the typical thing is to ask anyway. if someone can help, they will probably help.
[23:49] <bibinou> I have a .crash which I want to use to populate an existing bug, but apport-cli says it's better to open a new bug
[23:50] <bibinou> does I open a new bug and mark the existing one as a duplicate ?
[23:50] <bibinou> does I need to use apport-cli or apport-bug ?
[23:50] <bibinou> (apport-cli crashed BTW)
[23:51] <bcurtiswx_> simosx: ok.. not sure if its ubiquity.. but if noone chirps in soon i'd report it as ubiquity and they can change it from there
[23:51] <bibinou> bcurtiswx_: I would say ubiquity too, I think the ubiquity team would triage it anyway
[23:52] <simosx> bibinou: «If you have already reported a bug directly via Launchpad, but want to add additional debugging information via Apport to the bug, you can do this by running the command apport-collect bug_number via "Run Application" or terminal window.», from FAQ.
[23:52] <simosx> ok, reporting this to uniquity. thanks.
[23:52] <bibinou> (I think there's something on the wiki saying installer bug -> ubiquity)
[23:53] <bibinou> simosx: thanks !
[23:54] <simosx> np