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fader_I would think if the grub config got hosed you wouldn't even have the option to go to rescue mode from the install, so there goes that theory :)00:00
bladernr_nah... I booted the installer and went in that way00:00
bladernr_I don't have an option other than memtest86... I never get a boot menu.00:00
fader_bladernr_: Did you try holding whichever bucky bit invokes the grub menu?  (I just mash down on ctrl+alt+shift because I can't remember which does it)00:02
bladernr_fader_:  I thought it was ESC, so I was hitting that... but all that does is force memtest to reboot the system... so... hilarity ensues00:05
bladernr_though, in /boot, the only two things I see are memtest86+.bin and grub/00:05
bladernr_something tells me that the install didn't quite go as planned...00:06
bladernr_the only difference between this install and the studio install I did earlier was the partitioning...00:06
bladernr_gonna just flatten and redo...00:06
fader_bladernr_: It'd "hold $foo" where $foo is one of {shift|ctrl|alt}00:08
fader_bladernr_: Good luck00:09
bladernr_yep... the only grub entries are memtest...00:09
bladernr_Now that I think about it, when it asked me what kernel to install, the only options was -headers... sigh... I've done too many of these things today. I should have caught that before...00:10
fader_bladernr_: Heheh I feel your pain00:12
fader_bladernr_: Which testcase was this?  I can try to reproduce it if you like00:12
bladernr_fader_:  http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3805/22700:13
bladernr_Im gonna kick this off again and then go watch some BSG and have a beer00:14
bladernr_Ok... I'm not on crack... during base system install, it opens a dialog to choose kernel packages... the only option is linux-rt-headers-2.6.31-1000:17
bladernr_ahhh... I know why I didn't see this earlier...  earlier I did a 32bit install...00:18
fader_bladernr_: You've totally confused me now :P00:22
fader_bladernr_: What image should I install and in what way to reproduce this?00:22
bladernr_Studio Alternate AMD6400:22
fader_Full disk?00:22
bladernr_just boot install, defaults, full disk00:22
fader_bladernr_: Gotcha, thanks :)00:22
bladernr_it should start installing base packages, then pop up a dialog asking you to choose a kernel00:23
bladernr_if you see this too, I'll open a bug, otherwise, I'll try to resync my isos ... though zsync said they were fine earlier...00:24
fader_bladernr_: Roger wilco00:25
fader_bladernr_: Also, at some point, you have to let me know if this is BSG Classic or BSG: TNG, and where you are in the series :D00:27
bladernr_its TNG and toward the end... season 4.5 disk... 3 I think00:27
fader_Nice... That and Lost are the only TV series I've ever been heavily into :)00:28
bladernr_what?  I also own all the Miami Vice seasons on DVD ;-)00:29
bladernr_I watched lost for the first season... I just couldn't keep up after about the halfway point of season 2... so never got back into it00:29
bladernr_stupid question time again... what's the ubuntu kernel package called?00:29
bladernr_linux-image-generic?00:30
fader_linux-image-generic is a metapackage... it depends on the latest -generic kernel package00:30
fader_So in short, "yes, but."00:31
bladernr_hrmmm...00:31
fader_bladernr_: Yeah, I just got prompted for linux-rt-headers, but not linux-rt00:31
bladernr_and no other options... the 32bit gave me 3 or 4 options...00:32
fader_linux-rt should be the realtime kernel package, but I'm guessing rt-headers is just the headers and won't pull in the actual kernel00:32
fader_Yeah, I got that and "none"00:32
bladernr_that's what seems to have happened to me...00:32
fader_Looks like you found a good one :)00:32
bladernr_I was just looking through the 32bit iso which made me wonder...00:32
fader_I'll go through the rest of the install to be sure but I suspect I'll get memtest86 as well00:32
fader_You want to file that one or shall I?00:33
bladernr_I can... not sure what to file that under though...00:33
bladernr_is d-i a package,00:33
fader_Hmm, good question.  I'd say against either ubuntustudio or d-i00:33
fader_I don't think it's actually a bug in d-i itself...00:33
bladernr_cdbladernr@klaatu:~/isos/lucid/studio/foo/pool/main/l/linux$ ls linux-00:34
bladernr_linux-headers-2.6.32-16_2.6.32-16.25_all.deb           linux-image-2.6.32-16-generic_2.6.32-16.25_i386.deb00:34
bladernr_linux-headers-2.6.32-16-generic_2.6.32-16.25_i386.deb  linux-libc-dev_2.6.32-16.25_i386.deb00:34
bladernr_thats from the 32bit iso...00:34
fader_Yeah, I'd guess ubuntustudio and if it needs to be somewhere else slangasek will tell us00:35
bladernr_the 64bit iso has only -headers-00:35
fader_Ugh, in that case maybe not ubuntustudio00:35
fader_Sounds like the 64-bit rt kernel might not have built00:35
fader_?00:35
bladernr_is rt the only kernel for 64bit studio?00:35
fader_No, you can run it in any flavor, but I think that studio is the only flavor that pulls rt by default00:36
bladernr_ok...00:36
fader_Or has it as a default option anyway00:36
fader_Meh, file it somewhere and if it turns out to be wrong we'll get it moved.  It sounds like this will be a big enough deal that somebody will know what's going on :)00:37
bladernr_cool...00:38
bladernr_think ubuntu-bug linux will get some attention ;-)00:38
fader_Sounds good :)00:39
fader_bladernr_: Yeah, I get the exact same behavior after install -- straight to memtest8600:39
fader_Though if you asked, say, my mother, she'd probably expect that Linux looks that way anyway... maybe we can call it a feature.00:39
bladernr_heheh... the fully automated OS?  You don't do anything but boot and it does everything on its own00:40
fader_I always thought I'd be replaced by a very small shell script...00:41
fader_bladernr_: I assume you'll also mark that test case as failed in the ISO tracker once you get the bug filed?  I'm trying out another test case from the same image, but I'd be totally shocked if I get any different results00:42
bladernr_yeah... I will00:42
bladernr_writing it now00:42
fader_... and in fact, I just got prompted for the same "set" of kernels... forget the rest, I think we can write 64-bit studio alternate off :(00:43
bladernr_what package was it offering... linux-headers-<version>-rt-somethingmore.deb?00:43
fader_Yeah00:44
fader_Sorry, I don't have it up anymore... I can get back there if you need00:45
bladernr_ahhh... ok... no worries.00:45
bladernr_was just looking for the package in the iso... rt is part of universe, not main.00:45
fader_Huh, I didn't realize that00:46
fader_s/realize/know00:46
* fader_ is listening to Willie Nelson, which does something to his brain.00:46
bladernr_well, Willie did something to HIS brain... heh... ever see him toke through a home made apple bong?00:52
bladernr_what movie was that in...00:52
fader_Hehe, no... never saw that one apparently.00:52
fader_He had a cameo in Half Baked though00:52
bladernr_maybe it was in the Dukes of Hazzard remake I saw that... can't remember now though.00:54
bladernr_fader_:  bug 541625 by the way00:55
ubot4`Launchpad bug 541625 in linux (Ubuntu) "[lucid] Ubuntu Studio 64bit alternate DVD as of 18 March is missing kernel packages (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54162500:55
fader_bladernr_: Thanks!00:56
hggdhhum. My misterious install of ubuntu-dvd-amd64 ended up with an unbootable system. Although I *saw* the messages stating the kernel was being insalled, there is nothing in /boot00:58
bladernr_weird...00:58
bladernr_that's the regular ubuntu-dvd and not studio?00:59
bladernr_ok... really, I've been at this since just before 0900.  I'm going to go do something fun for a bit.00:59
fader_bladernr_: Hehe go man, don't burn out :)01:00
hggdhyes, the regular one. I am considering that a witch came by and hexed my install, and start from scratch again :-(01:00
fader_hggdh: Hmm, strange indeed01:00
* hggdh does not believe in witches, but that they exist, they do01:00
bladernr_hggdh:  if you throw a bucket of water on the computer, the witches will melt away01:01
hggdhhey, good idea!01:03
* hggdh goes looking for a bucket of water01:03
hggdhheh. Did not find it, but found a good beer (Sam Adams special)01:04
hggdhSince it is a crime throw away beer, I will drink it01:04
fader_Heheh01:05
fader_It's strange, as it turns out to be bourbon o'clock already in Boston.01:05
fader_hggdh: That image boots for me after an OEM install...01:15
rwwHola. Which iso would I use to help with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Plymouth ? The current daily build?01:16
fader_rww: Looks like it's with the 20100318 images01:17
fader_Which is either the current one or the previous, depending on if the new images are built or not01:17
rwwAlso, does a usb-creator-gtk liveusb stick count as a livecd?01:17
fader_rww: Yes, a USB stick should be the same as a livecd01:19
rwwawesome. time to go make my Intel KMS do something useful, then :)01:19
fader_rww: Excellent! :D01:20
hggdhfader_: yeah, I do not know what happened01:32
fader_hggdh: I believe in your theory... it could be witches.  I live with a couple... I'll ask them if they can spare a hex inverter.01:36
fader_(ba-dum-ching)01:36
fader_Okay, I'm calling it a day... don't think there's much more I can do today01:37
fader_*bamf*01:37
hggdhheh01:39
hggdhok. lucid-dvd-amd64 is really hosed, as far as I can see01:51
hggdhI am doing a standard install, and all selections I receive are for  Ubuntu *servers* not desktop01:52
sbeattiehggdh: ack, that's a problem.01:56
hggdhyeah. Opening a bug now. Took a screenshot01:58
hggdhsbeattie: opened https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/54164702:05
ubot4`Launchpad bug 541647 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Lucid-dvd-amd6.iso: installation via d-i shows Server selection (affects: 1)" [Critical,New]02:05
aragood morning all!06:57
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aramorning jcollado, primes2h07:52
jcolladoara: Buenos días07:52
araprimes2h, do you happen to have a machine with a Windows installation?07:53
primes2hara: Good morning!07:53
primes2hara: I read ML. I really would like if I had it. I see if I can find one.07:56
araprimes2h, thanks. I guess davmor2 will cover them when he gets up07:57
primes2hara: I was wondering if this test could be done using a VM.08:01
araprimes2h, yes, you can, if you have a VM running windows, then you can install ubuntu on it using wubi08:01
arajcollado, isn't a holiday today in Madrid?08:09
jcolladoara: yes, but I'll use today as a swap day later08:09
primes2hara: I know, I was wondering if it can be a valid test or it needs a clean installation on a machine.08:14
primes2hara: but you answered me anyway ;-)08:14
primes2hThanks08:14
araprimes2h, np08:14
primes2hara: I forward this to our italian test team ML.08:20
araprimes2h, cool, thanks08:21
primes2hara: I think someone could take care of these tests.08:21
primes2hara: :-)08:21
FersureHey. My brainstorm account isn't working for the iso.qa site.08:36
FersureYet it says it should work.08:36
araFersure, yes, we need to change that. It is not longer true, now they are different applicaitons08:39
araFersure, please, create an account at iso.qa. site08:40
arawhere does it say that? (I need to update it)08:40
persiaara: It's not true anymore?  What happened?08:40
persiaara: Also, which application is the one where the old accounts reside?08:40
arapersia, the iso tracker and the brainstorm were split some months ago, now they are in different machines, and different dbs08:41
persiaAnd the old accounts?08:42
araso, it should read, "if you had a brainstorm account prior to YYYYMMDD it should work in the iso tracker as well"08:42
arathe old accounts were copied across (AFAIK) both systems08:42
arabut the new ones are not08:42
persiaAha!  So old accounts didn't notice anything, and new accounts are different.  Thanks for the explanation.08:42
Fersureara: On the 'create account' page09:02
araFersure, ok, thanks, I will change that in the next roll out of the ISO tracker09:02
Fersureara: I've had my brainstorm account for ages09:02
Fersureso I don't see why it doesn't work09:03
araFersure, mmm, then it is interesting... it seems that the migration of data didn't go that well09:03
araFersure, can you ask for a password reset to see if it goes to your email account?09:04
Fersureara: I did09:05
FersureIt said the email wasn't listed09:05
FersureAnd neither was the username09:05
* ara reboots09:13
fmanachhi guys09:17
arahey fmanach09:18
fmanachI'm trying to test lucid-desktop-i386.iso agains the Localized Installation test case but it doesn't boot in my virtual box.09:18
fmanachDo I need some options to be enabled ?09:19
arafmanach, what kind of virtualization do you use09:27
* ara steps out for a coffee09:30
fmanachvirtualbox-ose09:34
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fmanachwhois slangasek09:56
persiaThe Release Manager : he leads the Release team.09:57
fmanachthx but I just forgot the /09:57
fmanachWas looking for where he was09:58
persiaI'd hope asleep at this hour.10:00
arapersia, yes, I hope that too :)10:00
fmanachara: I use virtualbox-ose10:09
arafmanach, and what do you mean by "not booting"?10:10
fmanachI get the splash, I choose french, then "Installer Ubuntu" and bim... black screen10:10
fmanach:(10:10
arafmanach, what host? karmic? lucid?10:11
arafmanach, what happens if you choose "Test Ubuntu without installing"? same thing?10:12
araare you using the latest lucid ISO?10:12
fmanachyep10:19
fmanachlast ISO of lucid on a karmic host10:19
fmanachsame thing with the "Test" option10:20
arafmanach, can you try with the alternate image?10:25
aramorning davmor210:27
davmor2ara: wubi is broked10:27
davmor2ara: morning10:27
aradavmor2, I know :-\10:27
aradavmor2, ev has uploaded a new version, can you coordinate with him to test it, please? they want to give it a spin to have something to point to users in the release notes10:28
davmor2ara: will do10:28
fmanachara: I can't for now11:01
arafmanach, ok, no worries11:01
davmor2ara: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3832/12 that's about as obvious as I can makes this I think11:10
aradavmor2, I think that you should mark it as failed (and keep the note)11:11
aradavmor2, and point to the previous bug11:11
davmor2how's that11:12
arasorry?11:12
davmor2how's that now?11:12
aradavmor2, perfect. thanks!11:13
* ara wonders what would happen to Ubuntu without davmor211:14
davmor2Someone else would slow pick it up ;)11:14
ara:)11:14
davmor2ara: I'm going to blitz through all the other desktops with r147 and I'll mark as I go the only issue is because this is the downloaded version and knows my system can do 64bit it's the only version I can test for now I'll check with ev if there is a way to brute force it down to 32 bit11:16
davmor2174 even11:16
aradavmor2, ok, great11:16
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aramorning slangasek11:41
davmor2ara: kubuntu fails on a different matter I'm assuming kne will too, also une is uninstallable can't dl the iso12:19
aradavmor2, UNE is uninstallable???12:20
aradavmor2, why?12:20
davmor2it can't get the iso12:21
persiaHrm?12:21
aradavmor2, ah, ok, then get it using zsync directly12:21
arait might be a bug in dl-12:21
persiaI was able to download the iso from cdimage : maybe an isotracker issue?12:21
davmor2persia: no this is built into wubi I'm just checking with ev  as to where it is looking, it might still be pointing at unr and not une12:22
aradavmor2, ah, now I understood (reading your question at #ubuntu-release)12:22
aradavmor2, let's see what ev says12:22
araat #ubuntu-installer, sorry12:23
davmor2ara: kne fails in the same way as kubuntu which was to be expected but also nice to confirm :)12:32
aradavmor2, sure :)12:35
aramorning cr312:50
cr3ara: hi there, you'll be glad to know I've done my exploratory testing yesterday and I just need to complete the wiki pages12:51
aracr3, \o/ :)12:52
aradavmor2, did ev answered your question about wubi+une?12:53
davmor2no12:54
slangasekanyone taking care of the ubuntustudio/amd64 tests?13:04
slangasekoh; I guess bug #541625 is the answer13:04
ubot4`Launchpad bug 541625 in base-installer (Ubuntu) "[lucid] Ubuntu Studio 64bit alternate DVD as of 18 March is missing kernel packages (affects: 1)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54162513:04
persiaslangasek: I wouldn't hold beta on account of studio.  The tech lead recently resigned, and the project lead hasn't attended a meeting in months.  There *might* be a working image at final, but it's not currently guaranteed.13:25
slangasekpersia: oh, holding was not an option at this point; I'll publish the i386 image, and just hold back the amd64 one13:26
persiaUnfortunately, the flavour of the kernel that makes studio worthwhile is only available for amd64 :)13:27
persiaBut such is life :)13:27
slangasekheh13:30
davmor2morning fader_ cr3 alexmoldovan et al13:34
fader_davmor2: Howdy dude13:34
davmor2fader_: wubi got mended13:34
fader_Nice!13:34
davmor2but not on cd :(13:35
alexmoldovanGood morning!13:35
aramorning alexmoldovan13:36
aramorning fader_13:36
alexmoldovanmorning ara13:36
fader_Good morning ara and everybody :)13:36
bladernr_what fader_ said13:40
valdur55Hey!13:41
bladernr_^^^ is for horses ;-)13:41
valdur55When comes Lucid beta out?13:41
davmor2when it's out13:42
bladernr_sorry valdur55 ... I'm drinking way too much sugar chased by donuts this morning.13:42
valdur55~what clock?13:42
persiavaldur55: Unknown.  When tested images are ready, they will be posted.13:44
persiavaldur55: If you want it to be sooner, you can help test.13:44
valdur55persia, thanks. I will wait.13:46
yo2boy_hey13:53
yo2boy_uhh13:53
yo2boy_I'm willing to help test the Wubi installer13:53
davmor2yo2boy_: Welcome to the testing team you can get the latest wubi at http://people.canonical.com/~evand/wubi/lucid/wubi-174.exe install that on your windows machine and follow the instructions,  then goto http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com and fill in on the tracker if it worked.13:56
yo2boy_alright, thanks13:57
yo2boy_hmm, latest wubi link appears to be broken13:59
davmor2http://people.canonical.com/~evand/wubi/lucid/wubi-r174.exe14:00
yo2boy_^ thx14:01
davmor2I forgot the r d'oh14:02
fader_davmor2: Hey, does wubi work for UNE or just desktop?14:03
davmor2fader_: it should work for une but was pointing at unr still.  r176 iirc fixes that14:04
fader_Nice... my dentist wanted to try out UNE after seeing it on my netbook when I was in his waiting room, but he doesn't seem to be able to wrap his brain around getting the ISO onto a USB stick.  Maybe after Lucid's released I'll point him at wubi.14:04
davmor2fader_: I'll test it special ;)14:06
fader_Hehe, you'll also have to point me at a webpage with instructions to help him, as I can't walk him through it :)14:06
yo2boy_any idea on the percentage of compeletion for iso testing14:07
davmor2yo2boy_: it's on iso.qa.ubuntu.com14:08
pace_t_zuluhey guys... i'm testing the lucid live cd... i found a little glitch... anyone interested14:12
davmor2pace_t_zulu: what is it14:13
davmor2pace_t_zulu: What is the fault?14:16
pace_t_zuludavmor2: i have a screenshot14:16
pace_t_zuludavmor2: http://i44.tinypic.com/29ok1mp.png14:16
pace_t_zuludavmor2: it happens after you click the "Update the installer" link14:16
pace_t_zuludavmor2: you see what i'm talking about?14:16
davmor2nice catch14:17
pace_t_zuludavmor2: should i file a bug on this?14:17
davmor2hang on14:17
pace_t_zuludavmor2: thank you :)14:17
davmor2pace_t_zulu: already fixed in ubiquity for post beta1 freeze so no need14:19
pace_t_zuludavmor2: ty14:19
pace_t_zulu:)14:19
bladernr_davmor2:  where is the tickbox for Migration Assistant?15:13
davmor2bladernr_: it is after username and before install15:15
bladernr_davmor2:  I don't get the MA...  my install goes straight from User Info to Summary and skips Page 615:16
persiabladernr_: You had another OS installed prior to install?15:17
bladernr_persia:  yes... OS 1 is Lucid Xubuntu 64... os 2 is Ubuntu 6415:17
persiaHrm.15:17
bladernr_To make sure there was something in OS1 to transfer, I created a few test text files before kicking off OS 2's install15:17
bladernr_Tried in Ubuntu 64 with the same username and with a different username, in case that was an issue, but I still don't get the migration assistant.15:18
davmor2bladernr_: it may not of found anything to import but have a word with ev on -installer15:18
bladernr_davmor2:  ok15:18
fader_Anybody else having audio issues in the last day or two?  It seems like I randomly lose audio sometimes, but I haven't been able to really pin down when/why.15:24
slangasekyou're just going deaf from plymouth15:24
slangasekpay it no mind15:24
davmor2slangasek: you forgot the these aren't the droids you're looking for, move along, move along15:25
davmor2fader_: have you seen the new theme for empathy in lucid :)15:30
fader_slangasek: Heheh :)15:30
fader_davmor2: No... every time I try to use empathy all my friends complain because of no OTR, so I have to switch back to pidgin :/  Got a screenshot?15:31
davmor2no suffer :P15:31
davmor2one second15:31
davmor2fader_: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/empathy.png15:34
fader_Looks nice15:34
sbeattienot aubergine enough.15:35
davmor2it's actually really usable too I was quite surprised15:35
* bladernr_ did desktop testing on Empathy... it's pretty neat... 15:39
davmor2bladernr_: empathy has come on leaps and bounds15:40
fader_Still no OTR though :)15:40
davmor2fader_: I think there is the start of otr in the pipe work iirc15:40
fader_davmor2: Cool, let me know when you get that finished.15:41
fader_:)15:41
bladernr_After all this, I think everyone deserves a frosty beverage... http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=3301815015:42
fader_Neat :)15:43
davmor2bladernr_: fader_ can drink mine I'll stick with coffee15:44
bladernr_davmor2:  It will keep hot things hot just as well as it keeps cold things cold. That's an awful lot of hot coffee.15:45
davmor2not for MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE15:45
persiadavmor2: Yes it is.  It's the coffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee that keeps your fingers depressed.  Don't you want happy dancing fingers?15:46
davmor2persia: I think you've had too much coffee too then :D15:47
persiaNah.  My fingers are just toooooooo tired to get off the keys in time :p15:47
davmor2ah so in your case it's a lack of coffee :D15:48
primes2hara: as you see we have great guys in our italian team. ;-) they started testing wubi just after forwarding the announce on our ML.16:11
araprimes2h, :)16:13
primes2hara: (xdatap1 and I are very happy about this)16:14
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