[00:00] I would think if the grub config got hosed you wouldn't even have the option to go to rescue mode from the install, so there goes that theory :) [00:00] nah... I booted the installer and went in that way [00:00] I don't have an option other than memtest86... I never get a boot menu. [00:02] bladernr_: Did you try holding whichever bucky bit invokes the grub menu? (I just mash down on ctrl+alt+shift because I can't remember which does it) [00:05] fader_: I thought it was ESC, so I was hitting that... but all that does is force memtest to reboot the system... so... hilarity ensues [00:05] though, in /boot, the only two things I see are memtest86+.bin and grub/ [00:06] something tells me that the install didn't quite go as planned... [00:06] the only difference between this install and the studio install I did earlier was the partitioning... [00:06] gonna just flatten and redo... [00:08] bladernr_: It'd "hold $foo" where $foo is one of {shift|ctrl|alt} [00:09] bladernr_: Good luck [00:09] yep... the only grub entries are memtest... [00:10] Now that I think about it, when it asked me what kernel to install, the only options was -headers... sigh... I've done too many of these things today. I should have caught that before... [00:12] bladernr_: Heheh I feel your pain [00:12] bladernr_: Which testcase was this? I can try to reproduce it if you like [00:13] fader_: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3805/227 [00:14] Im gonna kick this off again and then go watch some BSG and have a beer [00:17] Ok... I'm not on crack... during base system install, it opens a dialog to choose kernel packages... the only option is linux-rt-headers-2.6.31-10 [00:18] ahhh... I know why I didn't see this earlier... earlier I did a 32bit install... [00:22] bladernr_: You've totally confused me now :P [00:22] bladernr_: What image should I install and in what way to reproduce this? [00:22] Studio Alternate AMD64 [00:22] Full disk? [00:22] just boot install, defaults, full disk [00:22] bladernr_: Gotcha, thanks :) [00:23] it should start installing base packages, then pop up a dialog asking you to choose a kernel [00:24] if you see this too, I'll open a bug, otherwise, I'll try to resync my isos ... though zsync said they were fine earlier... [00:25] bladernr_: Roger wilco [00:27] bladernr_: Also, at some point, you have to let me know if this is BSG Classic or BSG: TNG, and where you are in the series :D [00:27] its TNG and toward the end... season 4.5 disk... 3 I think [00:28] Nice... That and Lost are the only TV series I've ever been heavily into :) [00:29] what? I also own all the Miami Vice seasons on DVD ;-) [00:29] I watched lost for the first season... I just couldn't keep up after about the halfway point of season 2... so never got back into it [00:29] stupid question time again... what's the ubuntu kernel package called? [00:30] linux-image-generic? [00:30] linux-image-generic is a metapackage... it depends on the latest -generic kernel package [00:31] So in short, "yes, but." [00:31] hrmmm... [00:31] bladernr_: Yeah, I just got prompted for linux-rt-headers, but not linux-rt [00:32] and no other options... the 32bit gave me 3 or 4 options... [00:32] linux-rt should be the realtime kernel package, but I'm guessing rt-headers is just the headers and won't pull in the actual kernel [00:32] Yeah, I got that and "none" [00:32] that's what seems to have happened to me... [00:32] Looks like you found a good one :) [00:32] I was just looking through the 32bit iso which made me wonder... [00:32] I'll go through the rest of the install to be sure but I suspect I'll get memtest86 as well [00:33] You want to file that one or shall I? [00:33] I can... not sure what to file that under though... [00:33] is d-i a package, [00:33] Hmm, good question. I'd say against either ubuntustudio or d-i [00:33] I don't think it's actually a bug in d-i itself... [00:34] cdbladernr@klaatu:~/isos/lucid/studio/foo/pool/main/l/linux$ ls linux- [00:34] linux-headers-2.6.32-16_2.6.32-16.25_all.deb linux-image-2.6.32-16-generic_2.6.32-16.25_i386.deb [00:34] linux-headers-2.6.32-16-generic_2.6.32-16.25_i386.deb linux-libc-dev_2.6.32-16.25_i386.deb [00:34] thats from the 32bit iso... [00:35] Yeah, I'd guess ubuntustudio and if it needs to be somewhere else slangasek will tell us [00:35] the 64bit iso has only -headers- [00:35] Ugh, in that case maybe not ubuntustudio [00:35] Sounds like the 64-bit rt kernel might not have built [00:35] ? [00:35] is rt the only kernel for 64bit studio? [00:36] No, you can run it in any flavor, but I think that studio is the only flavor that pulls rt by default [00:36] ok... [00:36] Or has it as a default option anyway [00:37] Meh, file it somewhere and if it turns out to be wrong we'll get it moved. It sounds like this will be a big enough deal that somebody will know what's going on :) [00:38] cool... [00:38] think ubuntu-bug linux will get some attention ;-) [00:39] Sounds good :) [00:39] bladernr_: Yeah, I get the exact same behavior after install -- straight to memtest86 [00:39] Though if you asked, say, my mother, she'd probably expect that Linux looks that way anyway... maybe we can call it a feature. [00:40] heheh... the fully automated OS? You don't do anything but boot and it does everything on its own [00:41] I always thought I'd be replaced by a very small shell script... [00:42] bladernr_: I assume you'll also mark that test case as failed in the ISO tracker once you get the bug filed? I'm trying out another test case from the same image, but I'd be totally shocked if I get any different results [00:42] yeah... I will [00:42] writing it now [00:43] ... and in fact, I just got prompted for the same "set" of kernels... forget the rest, I think we can write 64-bit studio alternate off :( [00:43] what package was it offering... linux-headers--rt-somethingmore.deb? [00:44] Yeah [00:45] Sorry, I don't have it up anymore... I can get back there if you need [00:45] ahhh... ok... no worries. [00:45] was just looking for the package in the iso... rt is part of universe, not main. [00:46] Huh, I didn't realize that [00:46] s/realize/know [00:46] * fader_ is listening to Willie Nelson, which does something to his brain. [00:52] well, Willie did something to HIS brain... heh... ever see him toke through a home made apple bong? [00:52] what movie was that in... [00:52] Hehe, no... never saw that one apparently. [00:52] He had a cameo in Half Baked though [00:54] maybe it was in the Dukes of Hazzard remake I saw that... can't remember now though. [00:55] fader_: bug 541625 by the way [00:55] Launchpad bug 541625 in linux (Ubuntu) "[lucid] Ubuntu Studio 64bit alternate DVD as of 18 March is missing kernel packages (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541625 [00:56] bladernr_: Thanks! [00:58] hum. My misterious install of ubuntu-dvd-amd64 ended up with an unbootable system. Although I *saw* the messages stating the kernel was being insalled, there is nothing in /boot [00:58] weird... [00:59] that's the regular ubuntu-dvd and not studio? [00:59] ok... really, I've been at this since just before 0900. I'm going to go do something fun for a bit. [01:00] bladernr_: Hehe go man, don't burn out :) [01:00] yes, the regular one. I am considering that a witch came by and hexed my install, and start from scratch again :-( [01:00] hggdh: Hmm, strange indeed [01:00] * hggdh does not believe in witches, but that they exist, they do [01:01] hggdh: if you throw a bucket of water on the computer, the witches will melt away [01:03] hey, good idea! [01:03] * hggdh goes looking for a bucket of water [01:04] heh. Did not find it, but found a good beer (Sam Adams special) [01:04] Since it is a crime throw away beer, I will drink it [01:05] Heheh [01:05] It's strange, as it turns out to be bourbon o'clock already in Boston. [01:15] hggdh: That image boots for me after an OEM install... [01:16] Hola. Which iso would I use to help with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Plymouth ? The current daily build? [01:17] rww: Looks like it's with the 20100318 images [01:17] Which is either the current one or the previous, depending on if the new images are built or not [01:17] Also, does a usb-creator-gtk liveusb stick count as a livecd? [01:19] rww: Yes, a USB stick should be the same as a livecd [01:19] awesome. time to go make my Intel KMS do something useful, then :) [01:20] rww: Excellent! :D [01:32] fader_: yeah, I do not know what happened [01:36] hggdh: I believe in your theory... it could be witches. I live with a couple... I'll ask them if they can spare a hex inverter. [01:36] (ba-dum-ching) [01:37] Okay, I'm calling it a day... don't think there's much more I can do today [01:37] *bamf* [01:39] heh [01:51] ok. lucid-dvd-amd64 is really hosed, as far as I can see [01:52] I am doing a standard install, and all selections I receive are for Ubuntu *servers* not desktop [01:56] hggdh: ack, that's a problem. [01:58] yeah. Opening a bug now. Took a screenshot [02:05] sbeattie: opened https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/541647 [02:05] Launchpad bug 541647 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Lucid-dvd-amd6.iso: installation via d-i shows Server selection (affects: 1)" [Critical,New] [06:57] good morning all! === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac [07:52] morning jcollado, primes2h [07:52] ara: Buenos días [07:53] primes2h, do you happen to have a machine with a Windows installation? [07:53] ara: Good morning! [07:56] ara: I read ML. I really would like if I had it. I see if I can find one. [07:57] primes2h, thanks. I guess davmor2 will cover them when he gets up [08:01] ara: I was wondering if this test could be done using a VM. [08:01] primes2h, yes, you can, if you have a VM running windows, then you can install ubuntu on it using wubi [08:09] jcollado, isn't a holiday today in Madrid? [08:09] ara: yes, but I'll use today as a swap day later [08:14] ara: I know, I was wondering if it can be a valid test or it needs a clean installation on a machine. [08:14] ara: but you answered me anyway ;-) [08:14] Thanks [08:14] primes2h, np [08:20] ara: I forward this to our italian test team ML. [08:21] primes2h, cool, thanks [08:21] ara: I think someone could take care of these tests. [08:21] ara: :-) [08:36] Hey. My brainstorm account isn't working for the iso.qa site. [08:36] Yet it says it should work. [08:39] Fersure, yes, we need to change that. It is not longer true, now they are different applicaitons [08:40] Fersure, please, create an account at iso.qa. site [08:40] where does it say that? (I need to update it) [08:40] ara: It's not true anymore? What happened? [08:40] ara: Also, which application is the one where the old accounts reside? [08:41] persia, the iso tracker and the brainstorm were split some months ago, now they are in different machines, and different dbs [08:42] And the old accounts? [08:42] so, it should read, "if you had a brainstorm account prior to YYYYMMDD it should work in the iso tracker as well" [08:42] the old accounts were copied across (AFAIK) both systems [08:42] but the new ones are not [08:42] Aha! So old accounts didn't notice anything, and new accounts are different. Thanks for the explanation. [09:02] ara: On the 'create account' page [09:02] Fersure, ok, thanks, I will change that in the next roll out of the ISO tracker [09:02] ara: I've had my brainstorm account for ages [09:03] so I don't see why it doesn't work [09:03] Fersure, mmm, then it is interesting... it seems that the migration of data didn't go that well [09:04] Fersure, can you ask for a password reset to see if it goes to your email account? [09:05] ara: I did [09:05] It said the email wasn't listed [09:05] And neither was the username [09:13] * ara reboots [09:17] hi guys [09:18] hey fmanach [09:18] I'm trying to test lucid-desktop-i386.iso agains the Localized Installation test case but it doesn't boot in my virtual box. [09:19] Do I need some options to be enabled ? [09:27] fmanach, what kind of virtualization do you use [09:30] * ara steps out for a coffee [09:34] virtualbox-ose === kermiac is now known as kermiac_ === jpds_ is now known as jpds [09:56] whois slangasek [09:57] The Release Manager : he leads the Release team. [09:57] thx but I just forgot the / [09:58] Was looking for where he was [10:00] I'd hope asleep at this hour. [10:00] persia, yes, I hope that too :) [10:09] ara: I use virtualbox-ose [10:10] fmanach, and what do you mean by "not booting"? [10:10] I get the splash, I choose french, then "Installer Ubuntu" and bim... black screen [10:10] :( [10:11] fmanach, what host? karmic? lucid? [10:12] fmanach, what happens if you choose "Test Ubuntu without installing"? same thing? [10:12] are you using the latest lucid ISO? [10:19] yep [10:19] last ISO of lucid on a karmic host [10:20] same thing with the "Test" option [10:25] fmanach, can you try with the alternate image? [10:27] morning davmor2 [10:27] ara: wubi is broked [10:27] ara: morning [10:27] davmor2, I know :-\ [10:28] davmor2, ev has uploaded a new version, can you coordinate with him to test it, please? they want to give it a spin to have something to point to users in the release notes [10:28] ara: will do [11:01] ara: I can't for now [11:01] fmanach, ok, no worries [11:10] ara: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/3832/12 that's about as obvious as I can makes this I think [11:11] davmor2, I think that you should mark it as failed (and keep the note) [11:11] davmor2, and point to the previous bug [11:12] how's that [11:12] sorry? [11:12] how's that now? [11:13] davmor2, perfect. thanks! [11:14] * ara wonders what would happen to Ubuntu without davmor2 [11:14] Someone else would slow pick it up ;) [11:14] :) [11:16] ara: I'm going to blitz through all the other desktops with r147 and I'll mark as I go the only issue is because this is the downloaded version and knows my system can do 64bit it's the only version I can test for now I'll check with ev if there is a way to brute force it down to 32 bit [11:16] 174 even [11:16] davmor2, ok, great === Craig_Dem_ is now known as Craig_Dem [11:41] morning slangasek [12:19] ara: kubuntu fails on a different matter I'm assuming kne will too, also une is uninstallable can't dl the iso [12:20] davmor2, UNE is uninstallable??? [12:20] davmor2, why? [12:21] it can't get the iso [12:21] Hrm? [12:21] davmor2, ah, ok, then get it using zsync directly [12:21] it might be a bug in dl- [12:21] I was able to download the iso from cdimage : maybe an isotracker issue? [12:22] persia: no this is built into wubi I'm just checking with ev as to where it is looking, it might still be pointing at unr and not une [12:22] davmor2, ah, now I understood (reading your question at #ubuntu-release) [12:22] davmor2, let's see what ev says [12:23] at #ubuntu-installer, sorry [12:32] ara: kne fails in the same way as kubuntu which was to be expected but also nice to confirm :) [12:35] davmor2, sure :) [12:50] morning cr3 [12:51] ara: hi there, you'll be glad to know I've done my exploratory testing yesterday and I just need to complete the wiki pages [12:52] cr3, \o/ :) [12:53] davmor2, did ev answered your question about wubi+une? [12:54] no [13:04] anyone taking care of the ubuntustudio/amd64 tests? [13:04] oh; I guess bug #541625 is the answer [13:04] Launchpad bug 541625 in base-installer (Ubuntu) "[lucid] Ubuntu Studio 64bit alternate DVD as of 18 March is missing kernel packages (affects: 1)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/541625 [13:25] slangasek: I wouldn't hold beta on account of studio. The tech lead recently resigned, and the project lead hasn't attended a meeting in months. There *might* be a working image at final, but it's not currently guaranteed. [13:26] persia: oh, holding was not an option at this point; I'll publish the i386 image, and just hold back the amd64 one [13:27] Unfortunately, the flavour of the kernel that makes studio worthwhile is only available for amd64 :) [13:27] But such is life :) [13:30] heh [13:34] morning fader_ cr3 alexmoldovan et al [13:34] davmor2: Howdy dude [13:34] fader_: wubi got mended [13:34] Nice! [13:35] but not on cd :( [13:35] Good morning! [13:36] morning alexmoldovan [13:36] morning fader_ [13:36] morning ara [13:36] Good morning ara and everybody :) [13:40] what fader_ said [13:41] Hey! [13:41] ^^^ is for horses ;-) [13:41] When comes Lucid beta out? [13:42] when it's out [13:42] sorry valdur55 ... I'm drinking way too much sugar chased by donuts this morning. [13:42] ~what clock? [13:44] valdur55: Unknown. When tested images are ready, they will be posted. [13:44] valdur55: If you want it to be sooner, you can help test. [13:46] persia, thanks. I will wait. [13:53] hey [13:53] uhh [13:53] I'm willing to help test the Wubi installer [13:56] yo2boy_: Welcome to the testing team you can get the latest wubi at http://people.canonical.com/~evand/wubi/lucid/wubi-174.exe install that on your windows machine and follow the instructions, then goto http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com and fill in on the tracker if it worked. [13:57] alright, thanks [13:59] hmm, latest wubi link appears to be broken [14:00] http://people.canonical.com/~evand/wubi/lucid/wubi-r174.exe [14:01] ^ thx [14:02] I forgot the r d'oh [14:03] davmor2: Hey, does wubi work for UNE or just desktop? [14:04] fader_: it should work for une but was pointing at unr still. r176 iirc fixes that [14:04] Nice... my dentist wanted to try out UNE after seeing it on my netbook when I was in his waiting room, but he doesn't seem to be able to wrap his brain around getting the ISO onto a USB stick. Maybe after Lucid's released I'll point him at wubi. [14:06] fader_: I'll test it special ;) [14:06] Hehe, you'll also have to point me at a webpage with instructions to help him, as I can't walk him through it :) [14:07] any idea on the percentage of compeletion for iso testing [14:08] yo2boy_: it's on iso.qa.ubuntu.com [14:12] hey guys... i'm testing the lucid live cd... i found a little glitch... anyone interested [14:13] pace_t_zulu: what is it [14:16] pace_t_zulu: What is the fault? [14:16] davmor2: i have a screenshot [14:16] davmor2: http://i44.tinypic.com/29ok1mp.png [14:16] davmor2: it happens after you click the "Update the installer" link [14:16] davmor2: you see what i'm talking about? [14:17] nice catch [14:17] davmor2: should i file a bug on this? [14:17] hang on [14:17] davmor2: thank you :) [14:19] pace_t_zulu: already fixed in ubiquity for post beta1 freeze so no need [14:19] davmor2: ty [14:19] :) [15:13] davmor2: where is the tickbox for Migration Assistant? [15:15] bladernr_: it is after username and before install [15:16] davmor2: I don't get the MA... my install goes straight from User Info to Summary and skips Page 6 [15:17] bladernr_: You had another OS installed prior to install? [15:17] persia: yes... OS 1 is Lucid Xubuntu 64... os 2 is Ubuntu 64 [15:17] Hrm. [15:17] To make sure there was something in OS1 to transfer, I created a few test text files before kicking off OS 2's install [15:18] Tried in Ubuntu 64 with the same username and with a different username, in case that was an issue, but I still don't get the migration assistant. [15:18] bladernr_: it may not of found anything to import but have a word with ev on -installer [15:18] davmor2: ok [15:24] Anybody else having audio issues in the last day or two? It seems like I randomly lose audio sometimes, but I haven't been able to really pin down when/why. [15:24] you're just going deaf from plymouth [15:24] pay it no mind [15:25] slangasek: you forgot the these aren't the droids you're looking for, move along, move along [15:30] fader_: have you seen the new theme for empathy in lucid :) [15:30] slangasek: Heheh :) [15:31] davmor2: No... every time I try to use empathy all my friends complain because of no OTR, so I have to switch back to pidgin :/ Got a screenshot? [15:31] no suffer :P [15:31] one second [15:34] fader_: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/empathy.png [15:34] Looks nice [15:35] not aubergine enough. [15:35] it's actually really usable too I was quite surprised [15:39] * bladernr_ did desktop testing on Empathy... it's pretty neat... [15:40] bladernr_: empathy has come on leaps and bounds [15:40] Still no OTR though :) [15:40] fader_: I think there is the start of otr in the pipe work iirc [15:41] davmor2: Cool, let me know when you get that finished. [15:41] :) [15:42] After all this, I think everyone deserves a frosty beverage... http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=33018150 [15:43] Neat :) [15:44] bladernr_: fader_ can drink mine I'll stick with coffee [15:45] davmor2: It will keep hot things hot just as well as it keeps cold things cold. That's an awful lot of hot coffee. [15:45] not for MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE [15:46] davmor2: Yes it is. It's the coffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee that keeps your fingers depressed. Don't you want happy dancing fingers? [15:47] persia: I think you've had too much coffee too then :D [15:47] Nah. My fingers are just toooooooo tired to get off the keys in time :p [15:48] ah so in your case it's a lack of coffee :D [16:11] ara: as you see we have great guys in our italian team. ;-) they started testing wubi just after forwarding the announce on our ML. [16:13] primes2h, :) [16:14] ara: (xdatap1 and I are very happy about this) === yofel_ is now known as yofel === xzcvczx is now known as xzcvczxx === Anzenketh is now known as Anzenketh|away