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BoondoKlifeOf course it will depend on the amount of data, understandably.00:00
duanedesignBoondoKlife: I imagine they will happen considerably faster in the future00:06
BoondoKlifewell in any case cheers to it working! slow is better than not at all that is for sure.00:09
duanedesignBoondoKlife: heh, yeah. Its a very ambitious project. It goes above and beyond traditional file sync program/servicecs with the program integration.00:14
duanedesignbut Canonical attracts the best of the best. And from talking with the devs in here i have no doubt that they will have the rough edges polished in no time00:15
BoondoKlifeI really think the only thing that sucks is the huge gap between free and pay plan. I second the notion of a in between plan for less a month. I just can't see needing 50GB atm.00:15
duanedesignBoondoKlife: that has been a popular request  :)00:16
duanedesignBoondoKlife: so popular i was thinking about putting it on 'brainstorm' in order to help quantify the popularity of that idea00:16
BoondoKlifeThat is a very good idea00:17
duanedesigni think its very cool that Canonical pays for the 2GB account00:18
BoondoKlifeyea, it gives a great platform to test on too. Since most people are iffy about diving into things that cost up front.00:19
akgranerHi all I am running Lucid, I added a new computer to ubuntu one, now if I go to places I don't even see an Ubuntuone folder, and when I go to Ubuntuone preferences it says I am connected :-/02:04
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splashotehi, how can I change to another UbuntuOne account on my pc ? mine does not work at all (bug opened since 3 weeks) and now I'd like to check whether it works with a new account09:45
splashotei love dropbox ;)09:46
popeysplashote: create a new user account and test under that?09:50
popeya new local user on the ubuntu system09:50
splashotepopey: i would like to use my existing local user. any chance to do that?09:51
ryesplashote, could you please point to the bug report?09:51
splashoteof course! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/52568209:52
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Ubuntu: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/525682)09:52
splashotei made it public again09:52
ryesplashote, could you please try running syncdaemon directly - /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon and see what happens09:53
splashoteAttributeError: 'VolumeManager' object has no attribute '_upgrade_metadata_6'09:54
splashotehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/397706/09:54
ryesplashote, ok, that means that you have been running newver version of the software, then switched to an older one09:55
ryenewer09:55
splashotethat's right. i used the PPA but as it only works on lucid (i use karmic) i returned to the rep-version. i stopped working long time before that09:55
splashoteit stopped working...09:56
ryesplashote, the ppa version does not have the applet, right, but frankly speaking it works better than the current stable version. It is possible to make it run at start w/o applet, though09:58
splashotehm, ok if you say it works better i will once again give it a try. how to make it start? any guides available09:59
ryesplashote, well, ubuntuone-preferences has a button for connecting, from cmdline - u1sdtool --connect10:00
splashoteok.10:00
* rye is off writing the guide for u1sdtool interaction for new version,10:00
splashotei'm sure i tried that one. I don't think the bug is related to my client. i think i'll just leave ubuntu one aside until it works better or somebody helps me with my bug10:01
ryesplashote, for now, you either need to clean up the metadata or to switch back to PPA version. I have assigned myself to this bug report as the previous decision to subscribe only seems to be flawed - the stream of bug reports makes it hard to track the ones that I have info requested for10:04
splashoterye: ok, thanky you. I will switch back to the PPA version. anything else I can do to provide additional information for the bug?10:06
ryesplashote, once you switch to the PPA version, you will need to try connecting it with u1sdtool --connect... Since there were a lot of complaints about notifications, they were removed. I am not very happy with this, but currently it is possible to find out the current state of syncdaemon by running u1sdtool --status10:07
ryeand I am now hacking the script to provide notifications for syncdaemon states/file uploads at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Erye/%2Bjunk/ubuntuone-scripts/annotate/head%3A/syncdaemon-monitor.py10:08
splashotehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/397713/10:15
ryesplashote, ok, now could you please run /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon directly ?10:16
splashoteanother instance is running10:16
ryesplashote, ok, then what the output of head -n 10 ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log ?10:17
splashotehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/397715/10:18
ryesplashote, erm, could you try u1sdtool --quit to shut down syncdaemon completely10:19
ryethen start it from the terminal as /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon ?10:19
splashotestatus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/397719/10:22
ryesplashote, ok, syncdaemon is started and ready to connect. But could you please post the contents of the syncdaemon log file - head -n 10 ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log  - I am trying to find out how long is syncdaemon startup taking10:24
splashotehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/397721/10:25
ryesplashote, ok, it takes less than a second :-/10:27
rye2010-03-19 11:19:53,894 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.fsm - INFO - loading updated metadata10:27
rye2010-03-19 11:19:54,212 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.fsm - INFO - initialized: idx_path: 1, idx_node_id: 1, shares: 110:27
ryeonly one file in Ubuntu One directory ?10:27
splashotelocal: yes10:31
splashoteonline: 1.5 gig10:31
rye?10:32
splashoteit has not been synced for a while. i though it might help to empty the local folder. actually i mainly use it as a backup instance (or would like to use it) and all the data online is out of date, so I'd be lucky to delete it, if it helps.10:33
ryesplashote, ok, let's try to connect the syncdaemon - u1sdtool --connect, the log file should start to be filled with filenames/uuids for server rescan10:37
splashotehm, after the "--connect" order the "head -n 10 ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log" shows the last activity at 11:19 which is about 20 min ago10:39
ryesplashote, in this case the data is written to the end of the file, tail -f ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log should show more10:40
splashotehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/397729/ yepp10:41
ryesplashote, so, now it does its thing... scans the server-side/local-side and it should start downloading files shortly10:42
splashoterye: thank you very much. is there any way to tell him that the local side "is the important one" and sync the other way around?10:42
ryesplashote, hmm10:43
splashoteit seems stupid if I' have to download 1.5 gig in order to delete it directly10:43
ryesplashote, 1 - you may try deleting it via the web ui10:43
rye2 - i will need to wait until syncdaemon people arrive here to ask about --action=ACTION ... well...10:44
ryesplashote, if you are sure there is no info that needs to be preserved on the server side10:44
splashotetotally sure.10:45
ryesplashote, could you please back up the local file, quit syncdaemon with u1sdtool --quit10:45
splashotethe local file is "shared with me" nothing to worry about10:46
splashoteok, stopped10:46
ryeand then run u1sync --action=clobber-server $HOME/Ubuntu\ One10:46
* rye has not tested this yet :(10:46
splashoteDirectory not initialized; use --init [DIRECTORY] to initialize it.10:47
ryehm10:47
ryesplashote, could you please try u1sync --diff $HOME/Ubuntu\ One ?10:47
ryeI believe u1sync is a low level utility, definitely need to wait for syncdaemon people to appear. So the easiest way will be to remove the files from the web ui10:50
ryesplashote, ^10:50
splashoterye: which takes a lot of clicking as folders can't be deleted...10:51
ryesplashote, folders can be deleted10:51
splashoterye: oh, good news. thanks10:51
ryewhen you click on the folder there should appear a small trash can nearby10:52
ryewell, let me see whether that is still there10:52
splashoteit is10:52
ryesplashote, yep, it is  :)10:52
splashotebut i can't marke several files...10:52
splashotemark10:53
ryesplashote, that's right, there are multiple things that we want to fix in the web ui so that it becomes a more user-friendly10:53
splashoteok. thank you very much once again. i know it's hard to deal with noobs like me. have a godd day!10:54
splashotebye10:55
ryewell, we need to make everything working properly for the people not to feel noobs10:57
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duanedesigngood day to all :)16:14
ryeduanedesign, good day! beta1 for Lucid is out :)16:17
duanedesignspeaking of Lucid...I need to get around to fixing my desktopcouch16:18
duanedesignkinda put a halt on my working on my package replicator script16:19
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ryewoo-hoo - bug #43661216:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 436612 in ubuntuone-client "Need to profile metadata loading to see if it's too slow" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43661216:58
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=== rye changed the topic of #ubuntuone to: https://one.ubuntu.com | https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone | Known Issues: Notes: LP:538140 (notes w/o content cause Tomboy sync failure), LP:538437 (links with monotype style cause OOPS), LP:539521 (unknown entities in notes cause OOPS), | Please honk if you need assistance with Ubuntu One
=== rye changed the topic of #ubuntuone to: https://one.ubuntu.com | https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone | Known Issues: Notes: LP:538140 (notes w/o content cause Tomboy sync failure), LP:538437 (links with monotype style cause OOPS), LP:539521 (unknown entities in notes cause OOPS), | Please honk if you need assistance with Ubuntu One
=== rye changed the topic of #ubuntuone to: https://one.ubuntu.com | https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone | Known Issues: Notes: LP:538140 (notes w/o content cause Tomboy sync failure), LP:538437 (links with monotype style cause OOPS), LP:539521 (unknown entities in notes cause OOPS), Contacts: LP:541441 (missing first name, last name and nick name cause OOPS) | Please honk if you need assistance with Ubuntu One
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wgrantThe Ubuntu 10.04 Beta 1 announcement says:21:36
wgrantUbuntu One: Choose any folder in your home directory to sync, choose from21:36
wgrantmillions of songs for purchase in the Ubuntu One Music store.21:36
wgrantBut U1MS still seems to say "coming soon"21:36
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beunowgrant, I think the switch is going to be flipped on Monday21:51
wgrantHmm.21:51
beunowgrant, server-side21:52
wgrantRight.21:53
wgrantIt just seems odd to have it as one of the few big features in the announcement, but not actually work.21:53
beunowgrant, I agree. I have no idea why that was added. mattgriffin ^22:34
mattgriffinwgrant, beuno: it will be available very very soon22:36
mattgriffinsorry for the delay22:36
wgrantYes, but well after everybody looks at the announcement and WTFs a bit. :/22:36
mattgriffinwgrant: sorry. i had asked for the announcement blurb to include a reference to the blog where the public beta start would be announced but i guess that was too long22:37
mattgriffinwgrant, beuno: i updated the beta1 wiki announcement, asked Nathan (nhandler) to update the fridge post, and posted a reply to the post on ubuntuforums that the music store public beta would be announced soon... at least those areas are accurate now23:09
beunomattgriffin, you rock, thank you23:09
mattgriffin:)23:09
mattgriffinnp23:09
wgrantmattgriffin: Thanks.23:13
mattgriffinnp23:13
mattgriffin:)23:14
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