[00:00] <BoondoKlife> Of course it will depend on the amount of data, understandably.
[00:06] <duanedesign> BoondoKlife: I imagine they will happen considerably faster in the future
[00:09] <BoondoKlife> well in any case cheers to it working! slow is better than not at all that is for sure.
[00:14] <duanedesign> BoondoKlife: heh, yeah. Its a very ambitious project. It goes above and beyond traditional file sync program/servicecs with the program integration.
[00:15] <duanedesign> but Canonical attracts the best of the best. And from talking with the devs in here i have no doubt that they will have the rough edges polished in no time
[00:15] <BoondoKlife> I really think the only thing that sucks is the huge gap between free and pay plan. I second the notion of a in between plan for less a month. I just can't see needing 50GB atm.
[00:16] <duanedesign> BoondoKlife: that has been a popular request  :)
[00:16] <duanedesign> BoondoKlife: so popular i was thinking about putting it on 'brainstorm' in order to help quantify the popularity of that idea
[00:17] <BoondoKlife> That is a very good idea
[00:18] <duanedesign> i think its very cool that Canonical pays for the 2GB account
[00:19] <BoondoKlife> yea, it gives a great platform to test on too. Since most people are iffy about diving into things that cost up front.
[02:04] <akgraner> Hi all I am running Lucid, I added a new computer to ubuntu one, now if I go to places I don't even see an Ubuntuone folder, and when I go to Ubuntuone preferences it says I am connected :-/
[09:45] <splashote> hi, how can I change to another UbuntuOne account on my pc ? mine does not work at all (bug opened since 3 weeks) and now I'd like to check whether it works with a new account
[09:46] <splashote> i love dropbox ;)
[09:50] <popey> splashote: create a new user account and test under that?
[09:50] <popey> a new local user on the ubuntu system
[09:51] <splashote> popey: i would like to use my existing local user. any chance to do that?
[09:51] <rye> splashote, could you please point to the bug report?
[09:52] <splashote> of course! https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/525682
[09:52] <splashote> i made it public again
[09:53] <rye> splashote, could you please try running syncdaemon directly - /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon and see what happens
[09:54] <splashote> AttributeError: 'VolumeManager' object has no attribute '_upgrade_metadata_6'
[09:54] <splashote> http://paste.ubuntu.com/397706/
[09:55] <rye> splashote, ok, that means that you have been running newver version of the software, then switched to an older one
[09:55] <rye> newer
[09:55] <splashote> that's right. i used the PPA but as it only works on lucid (i use karmic) i returned to the rep-version. i stopped working long time before that
[09:56] <splashote> it stopped working...
[09:58] <rye> splashote, the ppa version does not have the applet, right, but frankly speaking it works better than the current stable version. It is possible to make it run at start w/o applet, though
[09:59] <splashote> hm, ok if you say it works better i will once again give it a try. how to make it start? any guides available
[10:00] <rye> splashote, well, ubuntuone-preferences has a button for connecting, from cmdline - u1sdtool --connect
[10:00] <splashote> ok.
[10:00]  * rye is off writing the guide for u1sdtool interaction for new version,
[10:01] <splashote> i'm sure i tried that one. I don't think the bug is related to my client. i think i'll just leave ubuntu one aside until it works better or somebody helps me with my bug
[10:04] <rye> splashote, for now, you either need to clean up the metadata or to switch back to PPA version. I have assigned myself to this bug report as the previous decision to subscribe only seems to be flawed - the stream of bug reports makes it hard to track the ones that I have info requested for
[10:06] <splashote> rye: ok, thanky you. I will switch back to the PPA version. anything else I can do to provide additional information for the bug?
[10:07] <rye> splashote, once you switch to the PPA version, you will need to try connecting it with u1sdtool --connect... Since there were a lot of complaints about notifications, they were removed. I am not very happy with this, but currently it is possible to find out the current state of syncdaemon by running u1sdtool --status
[10:08] <rye> and I am now hacking the script to provide notifications for syncdaemon states/file uploads at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Erye/%2Bjunk/ubuntuone-scripts/annotate/head%3A/syncdaemon-monitor.py
[10:15] <splashote> http://paste.ubuntu.com/397713/
[10:16] <rye> splashote, ok, now could you please run /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon directly ?
[10:16] <splashote> another instance is running
[10:17] <rye> splashote, ok, then what the output of head -n 10 ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log ?
[10:18] <splashote> http://paste.ubuntu.com/397715/
[10:19] <rye> splashote, erm, could you try u1sdtool --quit to shut down syncdaemon completely
[10:19] <rye> then start it from the terminal as /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon ?
[10:22] <splashote> status: http://paste.ubuntu.com/397719/
[10:24] <rye> splashote, ok, syncdaemon is started and ready to connect. But could you please post the contents of the syncdaemon log file - head -n 10 ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log  - I am trying to find out how long is syncdaemon startup taking
[10:25] <splashote> http://paste.ubuntu.com/397721/
[10:27] <rye> splashote, ok, it takes less than a second :-/
[10:27] <rye> 2010-03-19 11:19:53,894 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.fsm - INFO - loading updated metadata
[10:27] <rye> 2010-03-19 11:19:54,212 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.fsm - INFO - initialized: idx_path: 1, idx_node_id: 1, shares: 1
[10:27] <rye> only one file in Ubuntu One directory ?
[10:31] <splashote> local: yes
[10:31] <splashote> online: 1.5 gig
[10:32] <rye> ?
[10:33] <splashote> it has not been synced for a while. i though it might help to empty the local folder. actually i mainly use it as a backup instance (or would like to use it) and all the data online is out of date, so I'd be lucky to delete it, if it helps.
[10:37] <rye> splashote, ok, let's try to connect the syncdaemon - u1sdtool --connect, the log file should start to be filled with filenames/uuids for server rescan
[10:39] <splashote> hm, after the "--connect" order the "head -n 10 ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log" shows the last activity at 11:19 which is about 20 min ago
[10:40] <rye> splashote, in this case the data is written to the end of the file, tail -f ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log should show more
[10:41] <splashote> http://paste.ubuntu.com/397729/ yepp
[10:42] <rye> splashote, so, now it does its thing... scans the server-side/local-side and it should start downloading files shortly
[10:42] <splashote> rye: thank you very much. is there any way to tell him that the local side "is the important one" and sync the other way around?
[10:43] <rye> splashote, hmm
[10:43] <splashote> it seems stupid if I' have to download 1.5 gig in order to delete it directly
[10:43] <rye> splashote, 1 - you may try deleting it via the web ui
[10:44] <rye> 2 - i will need to wait until syncdaemon people arrive here to ask about --action=ACTION ... well...
[10:44] <rye> splashote, if you are sure there is no info that needs to be preserved on the server side
[10:45] <splashote> totally sure.
[10:45] <rye> splashote, could you please back up the local file, quit syncdaemon with u1sdtool --quit
[10:46] <splashote> the local file is "shared with me" nothing to worry about
[10:46] <splashote> ok, stopped
[10:46] <rye> and then run u1sync --action=clobber-server $HOME/Ubuntu\ One
[10:46]  * rye has not tested this yet :(
[10:47] <splashote> Directory not initialized; use --init [DIRECTORY] to initialize it.
[10:47] <rye> hm
[10:47] <rye> splashote, could you please try u1sync --diff $HOME/Ubuntu\ One ?
[10:50] <rye> I believe u1sync is a low level utility, definitely need to wait for syncdaemon people to appear. So the easiest way will be to remove the files from the web ui
[10:50] <rye> splashote, ^
[10:51] <splashote> rye: which takes a lot of clicking as folders can't be deleted...
[10:51] <rye> splashote, folders can be deleted
[10:51] <splashote> rye: oh, good news. thanks
[10:52] <rye> when you click on the folder there should appear a small trash can nearby
[10:52] <rye> well, let me see whether that is still there
[10:52] <splashote> it is
[10:52] <rye> splashote, yep, it is  :)
[10:52] <splashote> but i can't marke several files...
[10:53] <splashote> mark
[10:53] <rye> splashote, that's right, there are multiple things that we want to fix in the web ui so that it becomes a more user-friendly
[10:54] <splashote> ok. thank you very much once again. i know it's hard to deal with noobs like me. have a godd day!
[10:55] <splashote> bye
[10:57] <rye> well, we need to make everything working properly for the people not to feel noobs
[16:14] <duanedesign> good day to all :)
[16:17] <rye> duanedesign, good day! beta1 for Lucid is out :)
[16:18] <duanedesign> speaking of Lucid...I need to get around to fixing my desktopcouch
[16:19] <duanedesign> kinda put a halt on my working on my package replicator script
[16:58] <rye> woo-hoo - bug #436612
[21:36] <wgrant> The Ubuntu 10.04 Beta 1 announcement says:
[21:36] <wgrant> Ubuntu One: Choose any folder in your home directory to sync, choose from
[21:36] <wgrant> millions of songs for purchase in the Ubuntu One Music store.
[21:36] <wgrant> But U1MS still seems to say "coming soon"
[21:51] <beuno> wgrant, I think the switch is going to be flipped on Monday
[21:51] <wgrant> Hmm.
[21:52] <beuno> wgrant, server-side
[21:53] <wgrant> Right.
[21:53] <wgrant> It just seems odd to have it as one of the few big features in the announcement, but not actually work.
[22:34] <beuno> wgrant, I agree. I have no idea why that was added. mattgriffin ^
[22:36] <mattgriffin> wgrant, beuno: it will be available very very soon
[22:36] <mattgriffin> sorry for the delay
[22:36] <wgrant> Yes, but well after everybody looks at the announcement and WTFs a bit. :/
[22:37] <mattgriffin> wgrant: sorry. i had asked for the announcement blurb to include a reference to the blog where the public beta start would be announced but i guess that was too long
[23:09] <mattgriffin> wgrant, beuno: i updated the beta1 wiki announcement, asked Nathan (nhandler) to update the fridge post, and posted a reply to the post on ubuntuforums that the music store public beta would be announced soon... at least those areas are accurate now
[23:09] <beuno> mattgriffin, you rock, thank you
[23:09] <mattgriffin> :)
[23:09] <mattgriffin> np
[23:13] <wgrant> mattgriffin: Thanks.
[23:13] <mattgriffin> np
[23:14] <mattgriffin> :)