[00:41] <faron> Hello again everybody.Looking for advice from our beloved Ubuntu community...I would like to test out this "Greasemonkey" thing.My question is...should I install the much newer version from the Firefox site or,should I install the much older version from Synaptic ? And,just for your info...I'm running Xubuntu 8.04 with Firefox {latest vers} {3.6}
[00:50] <faron> Sorry,Sysi.Me again.What do you think about that ^^^^^^^^ ?
[00:55] <Myrtti> faron: fyi, it's almost 3am in Finland where Sysi is
[00:55] <faron> Oh,wow !
[00:55] <faron> jst looking for a little more input
[00:59] <rww> faron: I tend to use the newer version from the Firefox site. It's a matter of personal preference, though. If you install it from Synaptic, it'll get installed for all users, whereas if you get it from Firefox, it'll just be installed for you. Apart from the version differences, that's about all that's different.
[01:01] <CAPcap> i have a problem where if I let the screen saver come up, or my system suspends, when it comes back nothing works properly (or even at all). also if it goes to screensaver and asks me to log back in it wont accept my password. is this a common problem? how do i fix it.   Im running 9.10
[01:11] <CAPcap> guess no one is here
[01:24] <CAPcap> i have a problem where if I let the screen saver come up, or my system suspends, when it comes back nothing works properly (or even at all). also if it goes to screensaver and asks me to log back in it wont accept my password. is this a common problem? how do i fix it.   Im running 9.10
[01:40] <santiago> buenas noches
[01:40] <santiago> necesito de su ayuda
[01:40] <santiago> puede ser?
[01:40] <_Techie_> umm
[01:41] <_Techie_> !spanish
[01:41] <ubottu> En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[01:45] <santiago> bueno gracias
[01:55] <_Techie_> i dislike people who think we arent any help just because we choose to sleep between the hours of midnight - 7am+
[02:12] <nrodine> Hello?
[02:12] <nrodine> I need help :(
[02:13] <nrodine> My wireless internet is not working on my HP dv6000 laptop. It is working on my Vista partition. It was also not working on Kubuntu.
[02:13] <nrodine> Also, the wired Ethernet connection works (as I am using it now)
[02:19] <xiainx> you probably don't have the driver installed.
[02:19] <xiainx> You should try installing the xubuntu restricted extras package from the application manager, that fixed it for me
[02:21] <nrodine> where is application manager? Applications > .... > Application Manager? Sorry, new to xubuntu, used to kubuntu
[02:21] <xiainx> ummmm
[02:21] <nrodine> ohh, Add/Remove Applications?
[02:22] <xiainx> Yes, that's it
[02:22] <nrodine> or would you rather I use adept manager
[02:22] <xiainx> Add/Remove Applications should be just fine
[02:22] <xiainx> now search for Xubuntu Restricted Extras
[02:26] <nrodine> ok, I installed it
[02:26] <nrodine> If I don't come back in 5 minutes, assume the worst (aka, it didn't work and I will be back in 10 in that case)
[02:26] <xiainx> got it ;)
[02:28] <nrodine> Hello?
[02:28] <nrodine> Yeah, no, that didn't work :(
[02:28] <xiainx> :(
[02:29] <nrodine> also, my wireless switch is always red
[02:29] <nrodine> no matter which way I flip it
[02:30] <xiainx> Broadcom?
[02:31] <nrodine> nrodine@ubuntu:~$ sudo lshw -C network
[02:31] <nrodine>   *-network
[02:31] <nrodine>        description: Network controller
[02:31] <nrodine>        product: BCM4312 802.11b/g
[02:31] <nrodine>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[02:31] <nrodine>        physical id: 0
[02:31] <nrodine>        bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
[02:31] <nrodine>        version: 01
[02:31] <nrodine>        width: 64 bits
[02:31] <nrodine>        clock: 33MHz
[02:31] <nrodine>        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
[02:32] <nrodine>        configuration: driver=b43-pci-bridge latency=0
[02:32] <nrodine>        resources: irq:16 memory:f4000000-f4003fff
[02:32] <nrodine>   *-network
[02:32] <nrodine>        description: Ethernet interface
[02:32] <nrodine>        product: RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
[02:32] <nrodine>        vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
[02:32] <nrodine>        physical id: 0
[02:32] <xiainx> So, yes, broadcom
[02:32] <nrodine>        bus info: pci@0000:06:00.0
[02:32] <nrodine>        logical name: eth0
[02:32] <nrodine>        version: 01
[02:32] <nrodine>        serial: 00:1e:68:5c:f5:4d
[02:32] <nrodine>        size: 100MB/s
[02:32] <nrodine>        capacity: 100MB/s
[02:32] <nrodine>        width: 64 bits
[02:32] <nrodine>        clock: 33MHz
[02:32] <nrodine>        capabilities: pm vpd msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
[02:32] <nrodine>        configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=full ip=192.168.1.105 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=100MB/s
[02:32] <nrodine>        resources: irq:28 ioport:c000(size=256) memory:f8200000-f8200fff memory:c0000000-c001ffff(prefetchable)
[02:32] <nrodine> yes
[02:32] <xiainx> I would check this out:
[02:32] <xiainx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[02:33] <xiainx> or is that too old... just a sec
[02:35] <nrodine> yeah, I am going to try that now
[02:35] <nrodine> I like step 0, "clear out any mess from existing failed attempts to use ndiswrapper. " lol
[02:48] <_Techie_> umm
[02:49] <_Techie_> i would like to point out that using broadcom drivers in ndiswrapper may not be the solution
[02:50] <_Techie_> as the broadcom card that is listed in lshw is the gigabit wired network connection, not the wireless
[02:52] <nrodine> wired?
[02:53] <nrodine> no, it is the BCM4312 802.11b/g one, wireless
[02:53] <nrodine> +is confused+
[03:02] <nrodine> ok, I need to boot up windows to get some files
[03:02] <nrodine> I will be back later
[03:04] <rww> nrodine: BCM4312 doesn't need ndiswrapper :\
[03:04] <rww> plug into ethernet, install "bcmwl-kernel-source" and "b43-fwcutter", say yes when it prompts about firmware, and you're done
[03:07] <nrodine> ok
[03:07] <MarkSide> Hi all
[03:08] <MarkSide> Having problems getting an Xubuntu install to get an IP address in a VirtualBox VM - could anyone point me to any good network-troubleshooting guides?
[03:23] <nrodine> Hey
[03:23] <nrodine> Thank you so much!
[03:23] <nrodine> it works
[03:23] <nrodine> good night :)
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[07:57] <_Techie_> anybody here have experience and or knowledge of 32bit vs 64bit?
[07:58] <Sysi> 64bit supports more ram, otherly no big difference
[07:58] <_Techie_> wow, Sysi... you actually would be the wisest and best person to answer
[07:59] <_Techie_> i know your about the same age as me, but damn i have the utmost respect
[08:00] <Sysi> i think it's pretty complicated deep down, but main difference is that
[08:00] <_Techie_> the main thing i was thinking of, is installing a 32bit OS on a 64bit capable CPU goign to restrict it, and will any slight performance boost be gained by using a 64bit OS
[08:00] <_Techie_> coz ive lived my life on 32bit and i just found out that my Celeron D is 64bit
[08:01] <Sysi> 32bit on 64bit works well
[08:01] <_Techie_> this i know
[08:01] <_Techie_> but might there be a performance boost gained by switching from 32bit to 64bit?
[08:02] <Sysi> propably not, at least noticeable
[08:02] <_Techie_> hrmm
[08:02] <Sysi> i didn't notice
[08:02] <_Techie_> another thing comes to mind
[08:03] <Sysi> there was also something about that 64bit can even be slower if there's not very much ram
[08:03] <_Techie_> i cant seem to implement a 30% overclock on this CPU and achieve a succesful boot, might this be due to my OS being 32bit and not supporting more than 3.5ghz?
[08:04] <Sysi> i haven't heard about that kind of thing
[08:04] <_Techie_> hrmm, i will have to do my research
[08:05] <_Techie_> going to a LAN tommorow hosted by a local computer company so ill ask some of the guys there
[08:22] <Sysi> btw, Techie, you know some stuff that i don't
[08:25] <_Techie_> i knwo this
[08:25] <_Techie_> still doent change the fact that you know alot more than me in areas
[08:26] <Sysi> our biology teacher told us to watch monty python :D
[08:29] <_Techie_> your biology teacher has good taste
[14:32] <subspider> hello everyone
[14:34] <cody-somerville> hi
[16:04] <SEALIVE> hi wher do i find the installation folder of my installt programm Eagle is the name Hardy xbuntu?
[16:05] <SEALIVE> isent there a search function for folders ?
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[17:41] <xuchula> I just updated to Xubuntu 9.04, and the folders and wallpaper on my desktop are no longer visible. Anyone have any suggestions?
[19:14] <nikolam> bah, how do I remove applet form panel that does not react on right click? (9.10, 32bit, I think it us szstem load monitor, with cpu, mem, swap etc)
[19:15] <nikolam> I wanted to add it as usual with lower width with no text labels
[19:15] <nikolam> and now it is stuck on panel, not acting on right click
[19:15] <nikolam> so i can not set it up how i like, remove, etc
[19:17] <nikolam> oh i see now , i opened settings for applet
[19:17] <nikolam> and it was minimised by mistake
[19:17] <nikolam> all ok
[19:17] <nikolam> :)
[19:23] <_Techie_> =)
[19:41] <fxjumper> bonsoir #xubuntu
[19:42] <_Techie_> hello fxjumper
[19:42] <fxjumper> so, it's english topic?
[19:42] <fxjumper> ...channel
[19:43] <_Techie_> yes, this is generally an english channel however there are channels in various other languages
[19:44] <_Techie_> what language are you after?
[19:44] <fxjumper> thanks ... i'am french
[19:44] <_Techie_> !french
[19:44] <ubottu> Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois
[19:45] <fxjumper> thank Ubottu it's nice too in english but only for read ... :p
[19:49] <_Techie_> you have a very nice resume
[20:12] <_Techie_> oh great, a netsplit
[20:31] <deathdefineslife> Greetings.
[20:32] <_Techie_> heya deathdefineslife
[20:33] <deathdefineslife> I'm trying to install xubuntu on an eeepc 1005HA via unetbootin
[20:33] <_Techie_> cool, any trouble?
[20:33] <deathdefineslife> And I can do the installation just fine, but when I have rebooted (and it's trying to boot for the first time) I get almost a black screen.
[20:34] <_Techie_> any more information than a black screen
[20:34] <deathdefineslife> All I can see is a blinking marker (but not interactable of course..) and some weird arrow like thingy
[20:34] <_Techie_> might this black screen have some minor details?
[20:34] <_Techie_> hrmm
[20:34] <deathdefineslife> _Techie_ such as?
[20:34] <deathdefineslife> oh, this is actually after grub etc
[20:35] <_Techie_> after grub
[20:35] <_Techie_> hrmm
[20:35] <_Techie_> are you able ot boot into text mode?
[20:35] <deathdefineslife> but neither normal or failsafe works
[20:35] <deathdefineslife> nope
[20:35] <_Techie_> thats very peculiar
[20:36] <_Techie_> in grub, select the option to edit the entry
[20:36] <_Techie_> add "text" to the end
[20:36] <_Techie_> so, random gibberish from default boot -- quiet splash text
[20:36] <_Techie_> you may also wish to remove splash
[20:36] <_Techie_> and quiet
[20:37] <_Techie_> that should give you an idea on where exactly its hanging
[20:38] <deathdefineslife> good idea
[20:38] <_Techie_> i have a feeling it may be a problem loading usplash
[20:38] <_Techie_> and possibly GDM
[20:39] <deathdefineslife> I get the exact same error
[20:39] <_Techie_> hrmm
[20:39] <Sysi> deathdefineslife: ubuntu 9.10?
[20:39] <_Techie_> that means its after grub, but before Xubuntu does anything at all
[20:39] <deathdefineslife> Sysi yea, xubuntu 9.10
[20:40] <Sysi> i'm running lucid on 1005ha just now
[20:40] <deathdefineslife> Interesting.. :s
[20:40] <Sysi> and i've ran karmic also
[20:41] <Sysi> wifi worked pretty badly
[20:42] <Sysi> that sounds like gdm/xorg crash
[20:42] <deathdefineslife> Hmm, any idea on how to troubleshoot?
[20:42] <Sysi> press ctrl alt f1
[20:43] <deathdefineslife> nothing happens
[20:43] <deathdefineslife> should I try vanilla ubuntu first perhaps?
[20:43] <Sysi> what does vanilla ubuntu mean? i've heard that couple of times but never seen anywhere
[20:44] <_Techie_> vanilla means plain
[20:44] <Sysi> like vanilla kernel?
[20:44] <_Techie_> he means, regular old ubuntu, not any of the derivitaves such as xubuntu kubuntu or lubuntu
[20:45] <Sysi> it shouldn't make difference but reinstall is a (bad) choice
[20:45] <deathdefineslife> Hmm, what should I do then?
[20:45] <_Techie_> have you tried installing the LTS version?
[20:46] <Sysi> hardy propably don't work well
[20:46] <Sysi> too new hardware
[20:46] <_Techie_> i would recomment jaunty
[20:47] <_Techie_> but i think that a LTS release may be better as far as support
[20:47] <Sysi> have you tries to boot several times?
[20:47] <deathdefineslife> _Techie_ I
[20:47] <deathdefineslife> I
[20:47] <deathdefineslife> I'll try that
[20:49] <Sysi> i used fedora with eee-fedora kernel until now lucid
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[22:11] <nrodine> Hello
[22:12] <nrodine> I only have one workspace, how do I add back a second one horrizontally?
[22:18] <nrodine> sorry, I tried logging out and back in, didn't work :P
[22:25] <nrodine> Anyone?
[22:32] <knome> oh well. just was going to answer him.
[22:32] <knome> oh, you came back :P
[22:32] <nrodine> no
[22:32] <nrodine> yeah
[22:32] <nrodine> lol
[22:32] <nrodine> google said to reboot, it didn't work, lol
[22:32] <knome> nrodine, see applications -> settings -> workspaces
[22:32] <knome> you should be able to add as many workspaces as you want there
[22:32] <nrodine> lol, thanks >_<
[22:33] <nrodine> I <3 IRC
[22:33] <knome> hah
[22:33] <nrodine> they don't have this kinda stuff on windows :P
[22:33] <knome> don't get too addicted though :P
[22:33] <nrodine> I used Kubuntu for a few years in highschool, I decided to try xubuntu, i like the GUI more, but everything is new
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[23:34] <residentgrey> any advice on loading from source? is it actually easy? I never did it
[23:41] <knome> if you don't know what to do, then maybe try to avoid
[23:45] <residentgrey> ok as there's a CAD program that is fully functional, unlike qcad that only has a source distro for linux
[23:53] <knome> !build | residentgrey, see this page:
[23:53] <ubottu> residentgrey, see this page:: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[23:53] <residentgrey> !packages?
[23:53] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[23:53] <knome> !packages | residentgrey
[23:53] <ubottu> residentgrey: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !KPackageKit, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[23:53] <residentgrey> I normally check the manager first
[23:54] <knome> anyway... i need to head to bed, it's already 2am. good luck :)
[23:55] <residentgrey> kpackagekit?
[23:55] <residentgrey> nn knome
[23:55] <knome> don't worry about that. they are all looking at the same repositoreis.
[23:55] <knome> if you have checked one of those, you are fine.
[23:55] <knome> ->
[23:55] <residentgrey> oh k
[23:55] <residentgrey> nite
[23:56] <residentgrey> who gets the next shift? lol