[00:11] <Quintasan> I was sooo trolled by my ISP.
[00:12] <Quintasan> “Sorry but your district will have a short maintnance break”, short lasted 24 horus
[00:12] <Quintasan> hours*
[00:13] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: happy birthday, anyways
[00:14] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: oh thanks
[00:15] <Quintasan> after the first phonecall today I was like "WTF? It's not my brithday!" *looks at calendar* @_@
[00:15] <JontheEchidna> haha
[00:15] <JontheEchidna> I saw it on Skype
[00:17] <Quintasan> man, I need to download StarCraft II faster :S
[00:17] <Quintasan> That's what you get when they start messing with ol' rusty cables
[00:17] <Quintasan> :(
[00:18] <JontheEchidna> kekeke
[00:18] <Quintasan> moar updates, awesome
[00:19]  * Quintasan was expecting a slowdown in boot time with newer releases but it is actually faster
[00:28] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: lol, there's somebody named zerg in #kubuntu
[00:28]  * Quintasan eats zergs for breakfast
[00:28] <Quintasan> <3 protoss
[00:33] <JontheEchidna> I'll take this opportunity to reveal that I've never played Star Craft, and have only seen the memes :P
[00:33] <Quintasan> ...
[00:33] <Quintasan> I will pretend I did not hear that
[00:33] <Quintasan> really
[00:33] <Quintasan> :P
[00:34] <Quintasan> You'd better fix that mistake now
[01:12] <Fersure> um, problem. no "KPackageKit" or "System Settings" under "Computer" in Kickoff..
[01:12] <Fersure> In Lucid o_o
[01:21] <FeasibilityStudy> Anyone having issues with pinentry-qt4 failing with Lucid?
[01:25] <JontheEchidna> nope, works fine here
[01:28] <JontheEchidna> nixternal: yo, I got a question. Would a patch to amarok removing the unnecessary "do you really want to use the default location to set up your collection" dialog hurt anything with docs?
[01:28] <FeasibilityStudy> hmmm..On my end whenever pinentry is initiated it will blink 3 times really quickly and then say "incorrect password, signing failed"
[01:28] <JontheEchidna> would I need a UI freeze exception for this?
[01:29] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Yes, but as long as you get an ack from the doc person, it's not a big deal to get.
[01:29] <JontheEchidna> nice
[01:29] <ScottK> Since you're just dropping strings, it can't hurt translations.
[01:45] <FeasibilityStudy> Pintentry qt-4 is broken on Lucid.  And I can't get a backtrace
[05:47] <ScottK> Riddell: kdebase-workspace is waiting in binary New for you when you get a moment.  libplasmagenericshell needs to go into Main (it's split from a Main package)
[05:58] <ScottK> If FeasibilityStudy comes back, it works here.  He should check if gpg-agent is runnning.
[08:45] <freeflying> Do you guys have issue with your kmail? mine is crazy, it retrive all my email again, and this issus has happended 2 times before
[08:48] <jussi01> freeflying: using imap or disconnected imap or?
[08:48] <freeflying> jussi01: pop3
[08:48] <jussi01> oh... I dont use that sorry. :(
[08:48] <freeflying> jussi01: :)
[08:49] <jussi01> But, I do have another little gripe with something else... who do I grab about notifications...
[08:49] <freeflying> haha, I'm using kontact under gnome
[08:50] <freeflying> but this should be the root cause
[08:52] <jussi01> thing is, when a notification pops up with an acrtion, ie. the one for kpackagekit, asks you if you want to upgrade your packages; then the clickable buttons on there use the theme from your applications, but the writing is from the plasma theme. thus, you cant mix and match dark and light themes because it becaomes unreadable. the buttons should come from plasma, not else where.
[08:53] <jussi01> freeflying: could you highlight me like 3 or 4 times?
[08:55] <freeflying> jussi01: hi
[08:55] <freeflying> jussi01: hi
[08:55] <freeflying> jussi01: hi
[08:55] <freeflying> jussi01: hi
[08:55] <freeflying> jussi01: :)
[08:55] <jussi01> once more?
[08:56] <freeflying> jussi01: hey
[08:59] <jussi01> so, this is what Im talking about: http://imagebin.ca/view/EMyThRkj.html
[09:01] <freeflying> jussi01: you mean the button on the poppup box?
[09:01] <jussi01> freeflying: yes
[09:02] <jussi01> freeflying: I really dont understand why it is grey...
[09:02] <jussi01> it seems like its taking a generic color from somewhere...
[09:03] <freeflying> jussi01: the message from kopete is fine
[09:03] <freeflying> jussi01: suppose that is from your irc client
[09:03] <jussi01> freeflying: yes, its only the button (and its quassel)
[09:03] <jussi01> thing is, my theme is blue.
[09:04] <jussi01> so I really dont know where the grey is actually coming from
[09:04] <shadeslayer> hmm.. does anybody else get a smal rectangular box on the top left with plymouth during the boot?
[09:05] <shadeslayer> the whole screen is purple while that particular region is black
[09:05] <shadeslayer> ah loads of upgrades
[09:10] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I do not understand why our package must depend libssl just because git apparently does?
[09:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: but but... how come 2.3 compiles without libssl dev?
[09:11] <shadeslayer> in the repos that is
[09:11] <apachelogger> git > 2.3 I would suppose
[09:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: hmm weird ive compiling it for the last 2-3 months
[09:12] <apachelogger> Riddell: do you think we should blog about the logo rebranding business?
[09:12] <apachelogger> people get the wrong idea again
[09:13] <apachelogger> just like I predicted btw :P
[09:13] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: then I dunno
[09:13] <apachelogger> maybe we do the heavy patching
[09:13] <shadeslayer> hehe :)
[09:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: well if kubuntu doesnt need it then meh...
[09:14] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/lucid/amarok
[09:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: just thought that i might let you know
[09:14] <apachelogger> it build-deps on libcurl4-gnutls-dev
[09:14] <apachelogger> which AFAIK is a SSL lib
[09:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did you try wiping your cmake cache?
[09:15] <persia> It's a TLS lib, which is kinda like SSL and kinda not like SSL.
[09:15] <apachelogger> kk
[09:15] <apachelogger> :)
[09:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yes
[09:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i have a script which deletes the whole build/ folder
[09:16]  * apachelogger thinks we need a kde shortcut to go to the source branch of $name
[09:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/amarok/ubuntu/annotate/head:/debian/patches/debian/mysql_no_openssl_fix.diff
[09:18] <apachelogger> from debian
[09:18] <shadeslayer> ah
[09:25] <apachelogger> jefferai: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/amarok/ubuntu/annotate/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu/06_mimetypes.diff
[09:27] <apachelogger> jefferai: as per bug 191475 ... those are necessary for desktop interoperabitlity it seems :)
[09:29] <Tonio_> hi there
[09:29] <Tonio_> Riddell: do you think it'll be possible to push the new networkmanagement post beta ?
[09:29] <Tonio_> Riddell: afaics it really works well, and most reports are very positive...
[09:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw can you confirm this : https://bugs.kde.org/231398 ?
[09:32] <apachelogger> hai Tonio_
[09:33] <shadeslayer> and im starting to hate nouveau
[09:33] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I do not run latest git
[09:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ah ok
[09:33] <Tonio_> hey apachelogger:)
[09:33] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: go write a mail about nouveau or go cry to #ubuntu-x ;)
[09:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: or i can just install the nvidia binary blob
[09:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: well i did talk to people in X and they said that 3-D wont make it into the lucid release
[09:34] <shadeslayer> so i probably will have to switch to nvidia...
[09:35] <shadeslayer> um... why do i have the nvidia drivers in my upgrades \o/ : http://pastebin.ca/1846474
[09:39] <apachelogger> http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/kpkgcode.ogv
[09:39] <apachelogger> \o/
[09:39] <apachelogger> more shortcuts
[09:40] <apachelogger> also
[09:40] <apachelogger> \o/
[09:40] <apachelogger> more scripts
[09:40] <apachelogger> http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/scripts/deb-sourcecheck
[09:40] <apachelogger> finally came to upload that beasty ^^
[09:56] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: does every ubuntu member get this kind of space?
[09:57] <apachelogger> IIRC ye
[09:57] <apachelogger> s
[09:57] <shadeslayer> nice
[09:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: people.ubuntu.com
[09:57] <apachelogger> should redirect to a wiki page with information
[09:57] <shadeslayer> oh..
[09:57] <shadeslayer> yes it does :D
[09:58]  * apachelogger notes that there is no good wallpaper to be found via kgethotnewstuff :(
[09:58] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah..
[09:58] <apachelogger> ah
[09:58] <apachelogger> I will just use the linux mint one :D
[09:59] <shadeslayer> lol.. i like the pardus kdm theme though...
[09:59] <apachelogger> looks neat enough + I rarely have green wallies
[09:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I like KDEs better
[09:59] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the default one? nah.. to bluey
[09:59] <apachelogger> hm
[10:00] <shadeslayer> hmm.. i need to start tagging my codechef emails too :)
[10:00] <apachelogger> that linuxmint one is actually pretty crappy
[10:00] <apachelogger> as a wallpaper that is
[10:00] <apachelogger> splash screen maybe
[10:00] <apachelogger> but no good for wallie
[10:02]  * shadeslayer wonders what happened to chromium
[10:02] <persia> apachelogger: deb-sourcecheck looks useful.  Please consider adding it to u-d-t once the archive is fully open again.
[10:02] <shadeslayer> [18142:18159:3866675780:FATAL:chrome/browser/sync/syncable/directory_backing_store.cc(193)] file is encrypted or is not a database
[10:03] <apachelogger> persia: there is a similar too in udt suspicious-source or something
[10:03] <apachelogger> just that it is crap :P
[10:04] <persia> Yeah, suspicious-source.  Yours looks nicer, but doesn't have all of the special cases.  I'd like to see one tool to rule them all, because the archive-admins are currently stuck using suspicious-source.
[10:04] <persia> (and getting them better tools means NEW is faster, etc.)
[10:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: <3 this : https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/oeljdmeofcikjblcoehpmdnooimalbmj?hl=en#
[10:07] <apachelogger> persia: well, see that is why mine is superior, I do not need to list all types of source files, because source files in the end are text files and text files will be marked as either *ASCII* or *text* by file
[10:07] <apachelogger> in the end it will spit out everything that is binary data and not whitelisted
[10:10] <shadeslayer_> ok brb.. installed the nvidia drivers :P
[10:11] <apachelogger> persia: http://pastebin.ca/1846498 vs. http://pastebin.ca/1846499
[10:12] <persia> apachelogger: Your whitelist could be longer (e.g. .wav, .au, .sng, etc.).  Also, if fails for non-ascii unicode text (common for people with certain names)
[10:13] <apachelogger> yeah, that is just a matter of extending it :)
[10:13] <apachelogger> in general it will give much more appropriate hits than suspicious-source though ;)
[10:13] <persia> Well, yeah, but as far as I can tell, the bugtracker is in your head :)
[10:13] <persia> Much.
[10:13]  * apachelogger doesnt do bugs :P
[10:13] <persia> And I agree (looking at your example) that .mp3 and .ogg are target formats, not source.
[10:15] <persia> You don't do bugs?  I've seen you fix *lots* of bugs.
[10:15] <apachelogger> none of which were mine :P
[10:16] <persia> I get it.  You only fix bugs when it fills you with that smug sense of satisfaction in fixing someone else's mistake?
[10:25] <apachelogger> persia: exactly ^^
[10:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: any idea why the temprature plasmoid always shows temps in F and not in C?
[10:27] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[10:27] <apachelogger> locale maybe
[10:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: where do i adjust that?
[10:27] <apachelogger> systemsettings
[10:27] <apachelogger> regional & language or something
[10:28] <apachelogger> there you can configure that kind of stuff
[10:28] <shadeslayer> yeah found it
[10:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ah thanks... i was going to report a bug :P
[10:43] <shadeslayer> feels nice to be back on the nvidia driver :P
[10:46] <apachelogger> sweet ness
[10:46]  * apachelogger starts redoing code for cpp excercise :(
[10:46] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: :) i even removed the splash stuff... boot time reduced by a sec i think
[10:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw do you know of a command that will compress a folder with .avi to maximum?
[10:50] <apachelogger> oh wow, that is the single most frightning code I have ever seen, first an array gets created on the stack and then the addresses get copied to pointers on the heap Oo
[10:50] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: eh?
[10:50] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: avi is a media container, no more than that
[10:51] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: like i want to tarball all my videos into one and have max. compression
[10:52] <apachelogger> oh
[10:52] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: youd probably want lzma compression for that
[10:53] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: man tar is your friend
[10:53] <apachelogger> apparently it already supports on the way filtering through lzma, so you just need to build your arguments list
[10:53] <apachelogger> otherwise you coud have to create the tar and then lzma -9 it
[10:54] <apachelogger> or create the tar as a IOpipe and then lzma -9 from that pipe
[10:54] <shadeslayer> hmm
[11:56] <Guest87270> who is handling the kubuntu netbook package?
[11:57] <Guest87270> like all the development stuff
[12:03] <shadeslayer> oh btw who was asking for a jockey backtrace that day?
[12:03] <shadeslayer> when i said that jockey-kde is crashy... well here it is : http://pastebin.ca/1846558
[12:04] <shadeslayer> i tried the install dbg symbols button but thats all i get after reloading
[12:08] <JontheEchidna> that's a python-qt4 crash, and a very strangeish one at that
[12:09] <JontheEchidna> yet another reason not to use python
[12:09] <JontheEchidna> aha: bug 403361
[12:11] <shadeslayer> brb
[12:12] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/542608
[12:13] <JontheEchidna> can't reproduce here
[12:13] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: wierd...
[12:14] <JontheEchidna> I'd suggest looking for similar reports at bugs.kde.org, and filing a bug if you don't find one already there
[12:15] <shadeslayer> ok ill have a look
[12:15] <JontheEchidna> then we can ask more people here, and if you're the only one we can close the launchpad bug and track it at bugs.kde.org
[12:15] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: :)
[14:08] <ScottK> Riddell: Here's the solution to the debug spam problem (at the end of) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=227089
[14:35] <sanich> кто нибудь помогите запустить АМАРОК
[14:44] <ryanakca> Who at Canonical can tell me which companies or organisations use Kubuntu?
[15:21]  * shadeslayer passes nixternal some coffee
[15:35] <nixternal> thank you shadeslayer... enjoying some coffee and awesome bagels while surrounded by gnomeites
[15:41] <shadeslayer> nixternal: nice blog btw :D
[17:21] <ScottK> Can the "recent notifications" popup that goes with any notifications in 4.4 go away?
[17:24] <verbalshadow> ScottK: only if there is zero notifications, AFAIK
[17:31] <ScottK> It seems an odd choice at best to have a notification that says "here are your notifications".
[17:31] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: If you could make that go away you'd be my hero once again.
[17:40] <Sput> ScottK: in trunk I don't see that anymore
[17:40] <Sput> so looks like upstream got some sanity too :)
[17:40] <ScottK> good to hear.
[17:40] <JontheEchidna> Yeah, they reworked the entire notifications system for 4.5
[17:40]  * ScottK looks again at JontheEchidna and his svn surfing skillz.
[17:41] <JontheEchidna> it's also separate from the system tray plasmoid in 4.5
[17:41] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Any chance we can make 'recent notifications' notification go away?
[17:41] <ScottK> Sounds like there's no worry about carrying a patch for a long time.
[17:42] <JontheEchidna> We'd have to maintain it for the LTS lifetime
[17:42] <ScottK> True.
[17:42] <JontheEchidna> plus it is a way to see notifications you may have missed
[17:42] <JontheEchidna> I don't know if upstream would be too keen on us removing the feature
[17:42] <ScottK> Can't you click on the "i" to get recent ones back?
[17:43] <shadeslayer> ScottK: nope
[17:43] <shadeslayer> ScottK: they last for about 30 secs
[17:43] <shadeslayer> or less
[17:43] <ScottK> That's recent.
[17:44] <ScottK> Right now if I unplug my netbook from power, I get three notifications.  That's proof positive that at least in this area, upstream is nuts.
[17:45] <JontheEchidna> I do plan on patching away the nepomuk notifications
[17:45] <JontheEchidna> those are just ridiculous
[17:45] <ScottK> Is there a way to turn the recent notifications thing off?
[17:46] <JontheEchidna> not that I can see
[17:46] <ScottK> There at least ought to be that.
[17:47] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i get 2 here
[17:47] <shadeslayer> ScottK: one from powerdevil and one from nepomuk
[17:48] <shadeslayer> ScottK: oh you can disable the power notifications
[17:48] <ScottK> I get those two and the recent notifications one.
[17:48] <ScottK> The power one is the one I think's reasonable.
[17:48] <shadeslayer> oh youre counting that? :P
[17:48] <ScottK> Yep.
[17:49] <ScottK> Of course the one of the three that I think we should have is the one you can turn off.
[17:58] <Sput> hm yeah, notifications really are much better in trunk, now that you remind me how it looked in 4.4 :)
[17:58] <Sput> JontheEchidna: the new systray also can embed plasmoids, so you can have the notifications plasmoid in it like in 4.4 :) I think that's even default now
[18:12] <lex79> ScottK: If you have time to sponsor, I uploaded soprano 2.4.1 to my ppa http://tinyurl.com/ykg4ybm
[18:16] <ScottK> lex79: Probably not today.
[18:17] <lex79> ok
[18:32] <bince__> hi guys i am stuck in petiboot loader screen
[18:32] <bince__> its not showing my kubuntu install file in its menu
[18:33] <bince__> i can access my disk in mnt folder but what should i do to initiate the installation process of my kubunut(i am trying to install it on ps3)
[19:27] <shadeslayer> ah nice...plasma crash
[20:21] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: we need them fancy web 2.0 buttons
[20:21] <JontheEchidna> when where and why?
[20:21] <apachelogger> "FEAR THE PYTHON"
[20:21] <apachelogger> or some crazy things
[20:22] <JontheEchidna> lol
[20:22] <JontheEchidna> they'd be a shiny web 2.0 snake
[20:22] <apachelogger> "Ubuntu is a Lunix written almost entirely in Python" :P
[20:22] <JontheEchidna> :D
[20:22] <JontheEchidna> Sounds like an uncyclopedia entry
[20:22] <apachelogger> as if it wasnt the truth :P
[20:23] <JontheEchidna> and here I am trying to do a GSoC project on a python app :S
[20:24] <apachelogger> IMHO launguage-selector should be ported to CPython API and use cpp itself :P
[20:24]  * apachelogger would like to see some decent cpython implemention anyway
[20:24] <apachelogger> I would be lying if I claimed that I understand their API documentation
[20:41] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: your blog post made quite the wave. peeps still talking about it on the microblag
[20:42] <apachelogger> microblag!
[20:42] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: talking is always good I suppose
[20:42] <apachelogger> not that I would know what they are talking
[20:42]  * apachelogger is again out of sync :(
[20:43] <JontheEchidna> mostly they're just posting the link
[20:43] <apachelogger> ah
[20:43] <apachelogger> if advertisement was always that easy
[20:43] <apachelogger> I noticed that someone in a french ubuntu forum claimed that I am a canonical employee :D
[20:44] <JontheEchidna> lol
[20:48] <apachelogger> hm, that post had 2.5k visitors today
[20:49] <apachelogger> madness
[20:50] <JontheEchidna> best post I got had 800 (timelord announcement)
[20:50]  * apachelogger cant really tell :(
[20:50] <apachelogger> oh, maybe analytics got them informations
[20:51] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: well, I am canonical employee, I must get more visits than you obviously ;)
[20:51] <JontheEchidna> :P
[20:51] <JontheEchidna> You probably would be, except you'd assault your fellow employees for advocating python
[20:52] <Quintasan> oh man, coding objects is so fun
[20:52] <Quintasan> "Make a class that represents a lamp, the methods should be able to turn it on or off and a colour of the lamp should be defined"
[20:52] <Quintasan> :O
[20:52] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: I would try to fight the evil from inside the company ! :D
[20:52] <apachelogger> oh
[20:52] <apachelogger> analytics++
[20:53] <apachelogger> most visited post was announcement of kde-nightly integration in project neon
[20:53] <apachelogger> Quintasan: there ^^^
[20:53] <apachelogger> neon will give you loads of visitors
[20:53] <apachelogger> that got 8.5k visitors
[20:53] <apachelogger> my rant about kubuntu l10n got 3k
[20:54] <apachelogger> oxygen cursors 2.5k
[20:54] <Quintasan> apachelogger: that code is crap, I dunno why did that work for you, seriously
[20:54] <Quintasan> it fails everytime on each machine I have tried (3 so far)
[20:54] <apachelogger> the secret is to have en envrionment that works :P
[20:54] <apachelogger> or to know how to fix things :P
[20:55]  * apachelogger ran neon on a gentoo machine actually :P
[20:55] <Quintasan> or stopping to code while under effects of alcohol
[20:55] <Quintasan> ^_^
[20:55] <apachelogger> nah
[20:55] <apachelogger> only that made it possible to shoot out the code in like a couple of days or so
[20:56] <Quintasan> now, maintain it
[20:56] <Quintasan> the level of that task is over 9000
[20:56] <Tm_T> hi
[20:56] <apachelogger> Quintasan: just rewrite it :P
[20:56] <Quintasan> Tm_T: \o
[20:56] <apachelogger> besides, I do not see the problem with maintaining
[20:57] <apachelogger> Quintasan: what is failing?
[20:57] <apachelogger> neon or the building?
[20:57] <Quintasan> apachelogger: beats me, it tries to download files which are not there and complains because they are not there
[20:57] <Quintasan> :S
[20:57] <apachelogger> Quintasan: pasty
[20:58] <apachelogger> Tm_T: mom, I am famous on the microblags JontheEchidna says!!!
[20:58] <Tm_T> apachelogger: he is just saying nice things to you );
[20:59] <Quintasan> apachelogger: in few minutes, I need to finish coding my Lamp class
[20:59] <apachelogger> Tm_T: you dont think I am famous? :(
[20:59] <apachelogger> Quintasan: I got a character class :P
[20:59] <Tm_T> apachelogger: sure you are
[20:59] <apachelogger> that forward declares 16 other classes, just because I am obsessed with forward declaration ^^
[21:00] <apachelogger> Tm_T: :)
[21:00] <apachelogger> Tm_T: just not on microblags?
[21:06] <Tm_T> apachelogger: only in this channel (;
[21:06] <Tm_T> or in other words, in our family
[21:06] <apachelogger> <3 family
[21:06] <apachelogger> that said, maybe I will not retire from development
[21:06] <Tm_T> better not
[21:37] <apachelogger> hm
[21:37] <apachelogger> anyone with karmic around?
[21:37] <ScottK> apachelogger: Sure.
[21:38] <ScottK> apachelogger: You can't retire from anything until you're at least as old as nixternal.
[21:38] <crimsun> or ten years younger than ScottK ;-)
[21:39] <apachelogger> pfff
[21:39] <apachelogger> ScottK: ls /usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-* | grep indicator | xargs grep Name
[21:39] <ScottK> Yeah, if I were a better businessman, I'd be retired already.
[21:39] <apachelogger> please
[21:39] <ScottK> OK
[21:39] <ScottK> apachelogger: Name=Indicator Display
[21:39] <ScottK> X-KDE-PluginInfo-Name=indicatordisplay
[21:39] <apachelogger> ScottK: thanks
[21:39] <ScottK> No problem.
[21:53] <apachelogger> oh oh
[21:53]  * apachelogger kicks plasma "silly robot"
[22:58] <debfx> anyone wants to test an updated brightness osd patch that should bring it back to life?
[22:58] <debfx> https://code.launchpad.net/~debfx/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu
[23:01] <ScottK> debfx: Didn't that get upstream?
[23:08]  * ScottK nudges Riddell again about kdebase-workspace sitting in binary New.
[23:13] <debfx> ScottK: no, I submitted it to the KDE review board in october but haven't got a response
[23:14] <ScottK> debfx: OK.  Please give it another push for 4.5.