[00:00] but why if kubuntu support is [00:00] then why it gives error like that [00:00] or why its not questioning anything? [00:00] if its setup ask me to put resolution screen or something like that its would be helpfull to me [00:01] it usually checks it automatically [00:01] same issues arise with other OSes installations too [00:05] ZeRG: are you still at the funny screen? [00:05] as in, are you still logged in.. .. [00:07] yes [00:08] ok [00:08] press F2 [00:08] well [00:08] alt-F2 [00:08] for a second tty console... and login [00:09] ok 1 min [00:09] * Typos_King starts counting backwards 40-39... [00:09] ok [00:10] how can i login? [00:10] root? [00:11] no, your account name [00:11] oh okay [00:11] whatever you used in the kde login [00:12] okay 1 min [00:12] well its still funny screen [00:13] i type it my login name and hit the enter [00:13] but waiting [00:14] k [00:14] nothing [00:14] i mean funny screen shows nothing to me [00:14] :( [00:15] what about the alt-f2? [00:15] did it give you a console? [00:16] alt f2 give me console [00:16] but i type my login name and still nothing there [00:16] soooo [00:16] right [00:16] but are you at the console prompt [00:16] i guess [00:17] alt-f2 =console? [00:17] are you at the bash prompt... can you ... type say -> ls [00:17] and give you a directory [00:17] * Typos_King shakes head [00:17] ok [00:17] are you? [00:19] cant see anything [00:19] its just dark funny screen again [00:19] :( === stephen is now known as Guest55101 [00:19] ... then .. [00:20] reboot..... try the 'safe mode' ubuntu linux entry from... the choices I gather.... I even wonder if you get it using Wubi on a directory install....but if it has 'safe mode' linux boot, use that [00:20] yes i have that [00:21] let me go [00:21] 1 min [00:21] once you get to a console, do an X-server reconfiguration with -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; [00:21] and then reboot and try the 'normal' boot [00:25] says x-server command not found [00:25] -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; [00:27] well? nothing happen [00:27] ask mew password for sudo [00:27] and nothing happen [00:27] any error messages? [00:27] no [00:29] and then reboot and try the 'normal' boot [00:29] ok 1min please [00:29] ... that's odd [00:29] usually it'd prompt yo... or something [00:30] my guess is that something went off with the installation [00:30] hýmmm [00:31] same :( [00:32] yeah.... I'd .... try to do a live-cd boot with the .iso you burned and install to a partition.... I don't think the directory install matters.... but I'd still side to using a separate partition [00:33] and a live-cd boot [00:33] hýmmm [00:33] how can i do that? [00:33] well... you burned the .iso to a cd, right? [00:33] yes [00:34] sooo, boot with it, is a live-cd [00:34] and then format my XP to? [00:34] and it will guide youthrought he installation [00:34] no [00:34] ok 1 min then [00:35] it'll ask you what type of install to do, then don't use the default 'guided' use 'Manual' [00:35] and then you'd need to setup a partition for it, 2 partitions, one for where it'll install and one for the 'swap' or virtual memory [00:37] oh ok let me look please 1 min [00:38] .... I will be dashing... sooo :| [00:41] I've already solved some problems since upgrade to kde 4.4 but there 1 left: kwin (kde-window-decorator) is crashing when logging in. If I want window borders I have to manually do "kwin --replace". Any ideas how to solve this problem smarter? [00:43] oh thank you typos_king your best man yayyyyyyyyy [01:00] is there anyway to bind a key combination to the konsole? === nessuno is now known as Enis [01:06] !konsole [01:06] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [01:07] !shortcuts [01:07] keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts [01:07] !keytouch [01:07] !info keytouch [01:07] keytouch (source: keytouch): A program to configure extra function keys in multimedia keyboards. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.1-1 (karmic), package size 175 kB, installed size 880 kB [01:08] !help [01:08] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [01:09] !commands > poyntz [01:09] poyntz, please see my private message [01:11] GAH!!!! [01:11] :S [01:11] absolutely every key set combo can be configured by right clicking on the kmenu but NOT the konsole.... :S:S:S [01:14] !hotkeys > . [01:16] !xbindkyes [01:16] !xbindkeys [01:16] spellfail :) [01:16] Bah [01:18] does showfoto have a blur plugin? [01:19] Whats the Lucid channel? [01:20] !lucid [01:20] Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule [01:22] so literally no-one in this chanel has a key combination bound to the terminal/konsole? [01:25] noppers! [01:25] key comination? [01:25] yaaa [01:25] keyboard shortcut? [01:25] combination** [01:26] okkk [01:26] try again [01:26] u want 2 bound terminal 2 keyboard command? [01:26] There needs to be a #kubuntu+1 channel [01:26] poyntz?? [01:26] anyone home? [01:27] okm i worked out how to do it [01:27] lolol [01:30] basically you go to Input Actions -> Create New Shortcut -> Create a random name for the shortcut, one of the tabs asks for a key shortcut (so you enter your key combo), the other tab asks for the location of the app (so you type in 'konsole' [01:31] sorry about the wait, i was distracted :P [01:31] feel free to enter it into ubottu so the next person that gets lost doesn't have to waste time on it :D [01:31] all the best [01:31] ciao === pete_ is now known as jp` === pete_ is now known as jp` [02:28] boa noite [02:29] !br | sl91 [02:29] sl91: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado. [02:29] whoops [03:30] I have a rather deep dir tree with over 3000 images, and I wan to see them all in a single view (e.g., as thumbnails), is there any way to do this? [04:55] Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /* [04:55] nice worked like a charm [05:51] sigh.. just updated to KDE 4.4.. broke my sound, again [05:52] flash sound still works, however system sounds and apps like amarok do not [06:00] * Empty_foo quickly writes a flashapp to listen to music [06:06] does anybody know a "fortune" app for KDE - similar to wanda in gnome ? my wife wont migrate to KDE without that [06:17] (nautilus:1725): Eel-CRITICAL **: eel_preferences_get_boolean: assertion `preferences_is_initialized ()' failed can someone tell me what that means [06:52] Hello [06:52] can you help me? [06:52] I have a laptop and external monitor [06:52] I've plugged monitor to the laptop and it shows the same picture as the laptop's one [06:53] I have no idea how to have it showing different workspace or whatever [06:54] system settings says what I have only one monitor [06:54] but resolution settings are avaiable for both monitors [06:54] oh say something [07:04] Can anyone tell me why Kubuntu 9.10 has no button to add pictures to the screensaver? [07:13] do somebody knows how to edit the setins for tripwire??? === OxDeadC0de is now known as Montgomery_Scrot === Montgomery_Scrot is now known as Montgomery_Scott === sirius is now known as vited_ === Montgomery_Scott is now known as Red_Shirt === Red_Shirt is now known as Montgomery_Scott === Montgomery_Scott is now known as Leonard_McCoy === Leonard_McCoy is now known as Montgomery_Scott [08:37] How come when I copy my mp3s to my portable player, they have incomplete tags? === Montgomery_Scott is now known as Leonard_McCoy === OxDeadC0de is now known as Mongomery_Scott === Mongomery_Scott is now known as Montgomery_Scott [09:31] hello all [09:31] i need help im using kubuntu now but still cant open google.com or few websites what should i do and cant use msn id on kopete why? === metehan is now known as Lanthes [09:33] well? [09:33] anyone there? [09:33] i need help im using kubuntu now but still cant open google.com or few websites what should i do and cant use msn id on kopete why? [09:34] i need help im using kubuntu now but still cant open google.com or few websites what should i do and cant use msn id on kopete why? [09:35] I have a problem with my laptop: I cant shut it down correctly there is something like a graphic bug [09:42] question: how can i copy multiple files from multiple directories to multiple directories ? === Leonard_McCoy is now known as OxDeadC0de [09:49] Anubis: with a script... [09:49] that is the only way i think [09:54] i tried with something like that: find ~/test -type f -name "*.xxx" -exec cp .... === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [10:04] hello guys. anyone know how i can setup a network between kubuntu 9.10 and windows 7? i'm kinda lost at the ip configuration for the network adapter in kubuntu [10:06] anyone? === shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ [10:07] Is there anyone can help me why I cant connect to MSN or Google.com [10:08] I have a problem with my laptop: I cant shut it down correctly there is something like a graphic bug === hanzz is now known as Guest94011 === Kevin__ is now known as HiddenKnowledge === HiddenKnowledge is now known as Guest16935 [11:27] Hi :) [11:28] I have a crappy laptop, which kubuntu do i choose? === Guest94011 is now known as HanzZ_ [11:28] HanzZ_, the latest? kubuntu 9.10 === Guest16935 is now known as HiddenKnowledge [11:34] Hello, I have a crappy laptop, which kubuntu do i choose? [11:35] HiddenKnowledge, the latest Kubuntu 9.10 [11:35] Ok, not the netbook version? [11:36] HiddenKnowledge, the kubuntu netbook remix? you can certainly choose that [11:36] Ok, thanks. [11:36] HiddenKnowledge, that is more meant for netbooks though [11:36] ie smaller screens etc [11:37] Is that a problem? [11:37] Can't i change that? [11:37] I've never tried it on a notebook so can't say, just on a netbook (eeepc) [11:37] Hmm, ok. [11:38] I'll just try it. [11:38] Thanks :) [11:38] maybe try the live cds [11:38] doesn't look bad on a notebook either [11:38] Ok :) [11:38] there you have it ^^ :) [11:38] but if you have a 15' display , go with the normal kde [11:38] I have no idea :P [11:39] Btw, is the normal download smaller or bigger than the netbook download? [11:40] should be kinda the same [11:41] K :) Thx. === shadeslayer is now known as Guest87270 [11:51] Hello, how can I put icons in two rows on a panel? === root is now known as Guest95803 [11:53] http://imagebin.ca/view/PE_hrBi.html === atlas_ is now known as atlas99 === Guest87270 is now known as shadeslayer === ashish__ is now known as ashishkshah === metehan is now known as Lanthes [12:11] hi guys is there anyone know how to use skype in kubuntu [12:14] hello [12:15] hi guys is there anyone how to use skype in kubuntu with webcam when i start my webcam its get shut it down and how do i fix that also same with msn i can sending messages via msn but cant see the webcam button [12:19] no answer [12:19] :/ [12:20] Lanthes, try installing "cheese" and google for v4l (video4linux) ppa repositories - not sure exactly but that's how it should work [12:20] ok let me look [12:21] Lanthes, "cheese" and "luvcview" [12:21] SandGorgon: im installing cheese Kpackagekit and then will install luvcview to [12:26] SandGorgon: i did it ,what should i do now? [12:27] i think it should have pulled in a lot of dependencies as well - my suggestion is to simply reboot, connect ur webcam and start skype. [12:27] ok will be here in a minute [12:28] Lanthes, also there is a LD_PRELOAD thingy u may need to do before using skype. [12:28] SandGorgon: how can i get that? [12:28] Lanthes, u need to google for it - a long time ago for me [12:29] skype works fine but when i test my webcam its get shut it [12:29] so i will try reboot and will see whats going on [12:29] be right back [12:30] Has anyone had problems with sound after a KDE 4.3 to 4.4 update? I had to deleted my xine catalog.cache file to get everything working. [12:33] SandGorgon: its same === metehan is now known as Lanthes [12:33] SandGorgon: its same error === shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ [12:34] Lanthes, sorry mate thats the extent of my knowledge [12:41] hi guys i just install the skype and now when i test my webcam on skype its shut it ,what should i do to fix it? === joseph is now known as Guest63700 [12:51] I used rcconf to disable udev and now I can't boot buntu. How can I re-enable udev via editing a config file (under /etc/rc.*?)? [12:58] hiho [12:58] danboid: ough, thats a tough one [12:59] hi phil__ [12:59] after a kernel update nvidia driver seems to be broken, the kernel was shipped with an older version than i use, what is the command to get the new kernel modules in the new kernel? [13:00] phil__: have you updated your system? The updated nvidia drivers should be in the updates. [13:00] orb01: via the kpackagemgr yes [13:01] remove and install nvidia-common, then run it [13:01] (phil__) [13:01] orb01: i'm on it, thanks [13:02] hello all! Just upgraded from kubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 beta but now I can't see the desktop, what can I do to fix it? [13:02] paolop: please join #ubuntu+1 dfor 10.04 support [13:02] jussi01: thanks [13:02] orb01: is there any problem when doing this while the older kernel version is running? [13:03] phil__: not at all, although a reboot might help. [13:03] orb01: the problem is though, i don't have the driver working with the new kernel ;-) [13:03] phil__: nividia-common recommends the right drivers. [13:04] orb01: so better reboot and do it from console? [13:04] with the new kernel [13:04] Hi everyone [13:04] hello vince [13:05] phil__: you're on the old kernel now? [13:05] orb01: yes [13:05] since a couple of weeks actually [13:05] phil__: yes, then do it in the new one. Can you access X at all in the new one? [13:05] I'm having trouble with firefox, hope some can help me :) [13:05] i hoped it was a bug wich would be fixed with an update soon [13:06] vince: what is your problem? [13:06] orb01: i didn't spend time to try it, just reverted to the old one [13:07] orb01: no X display automagically so [13:07] Allright, whenever I download a file with the download manager, it won't open using "open with" [13:07] phil__: then you can do it graphically in the new kernel. [13:07] I have to use dolphin instead [13:07] vince: I have a similar problem. Let me see if I can find a solution. [13:07] orb01: i'll just stick to apt-get remove and apt-get install [13:07] if it works, i'm fine [13:08] the thing is [13:08] I've had a lot of trouble with Kubuntu since I updated to KDE 4.4 [13:08] at first the plasma-desktop thing was so messed up I couldn't use anything [13:08] alt+F2 only basically [13:09] Then when I fixed the problem, only KDE apps would work [13:09] so I couldn't use the firefox installer included in kubuntu [13:09] so I decided to use sudo aptitude install firefox then [13:10] That's why everything is so screwed up IMO [13:10] vince: I just updated to 4.4. It messed up my panel, but that was easily solved. Also broke the sound. [13:10] vince: try kfmclient exec as the command [13:10] and firefox installed like that should be just fine [13:10] It wasn't "easily solved" for me haha [13:10] took me 5 hours to figure it out xD [13:11] reinstall plasma desktop, then i had some problems with settings files that I supposedly didn't own [13:12] In short, updating to KDE 4.4 was a helluva hassle [13:12] and nothing is mentionned about it on the Kubuntu homepage [13:12] silly [13:12] :/ [13:13] probably because 4.4 is in the backports [13:13] I had to delete my xine cache to get sound working [13:14] I can't believe there are so many differences between KDE 3.5.x and 4.4 [13:14] *4.3.x [13:14] sorry [13:15] I'll try reinstalling FF [13:15] am i going to lose my settings ? [13:15] I hope not [13:16] orb01: dmesg | tail still insists that the kernel module version doesn't match the driver [13:17] anyone know how to install driver rt3070 ? [13:17] eirann: wifi ? [13:18] yes [13:18] eirann: i guess should be something on the wiki [13:18] !wiki [13:18] http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation. [13:18] i've tried following make file instructions but i get errors at make [13:18] orb01: i could locate the nvidia-driver and rerun the installer from console though [13:19] phil___: you could do that yes. [13:19] eirann: give me the tutorial link [13:20] anyways, thanks for the tip orb01 [13:20] hang on [13:22] Peace-: i know this says 2870 but the ubuntu forum were i got it from says it's same information for 3070http://ubunturt2870.pbworks.com/FrontPage [13:22] http://ubunturt2870.pbworks.com/FrontPage [13:25] eirann: well that is pretty old tutorial [13:25] eirann: it's not the official wiki [13:25] and it's for a different wifi ,,,, [13:25] :) [13:25] eirann: usb or pci device? [13:26] i've tried following make file i'll pastebin the errors , is that ok ? [13:26] usb device it will make but not make install [13:26] eirann: lsusb [13:26] eirann: and paste here [13:26] !paste [13:26] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [13:27] ok i'm gonna oaste you the drivers i'm trying and the results i get from terminal. [13:27] eirann: i need only of lsusb [13:29] Peace-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/398315/ [13:29] eirann: now please unplug your device and type again lsusb and paste again === gott is now known as Guest57255 [13:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/398317/ [13:32] eirann: i guess you should try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1342593&highlight=rt2870 [13:32] ok i'll have look thanks [13:32] eirann: your device is this Bus 002 Device 002: ID 7392:7711 [13:32] eirann: so if you need documentation try to search that on google [13:32] orb01: works like a charm, newest driver up and running :-) thank you [13:33] ok, [13:34] so should it rocognise the device straight away, with out installing the driver? [13:35] eirann: it should work , [13:35] eirann: make sure to install correctlhy the driver , [13:36] eirann: then try the wifi without wpa or wep [13:36] and try to use wifi with wpa wep [13:36] but it should works fine === metehan is now known as Lanthes [13:37] Hello guys i try to use skype in kubuntu but it shut it when i cal someone or test it no sound working or video working in skype its just shut it how can i fix it? [13:38] !skype [13:38] To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga [13:39] Peace-: i've ran the lsmod grep, command and this is the readout http://paste.ubuntu.com/398321/, do all them try and controll the device so i've got to blacklist them [13:39] eirann: mmm let me see what you get with this [13:39] eirann: iwconfig [13:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/398322/ [13:41] eirann: mm looks like you have 2 wifi [13:41] eirann: and looks like the dirver is already installed [13:41] eirann: when you unplug your device let me see what iwconfig says [13:41] :o [13:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/398324/, the device should show up as "ra0" under iwconfig not wlan1 [13:44] eirann: so now plug in again [13:44] and give me [13:44] it says on that link that i have to blacklist someof the modules [13:44] sudo iwlist wlan1 scan [13:44] Peace-: wlan1 no scan results [13:45] mm [13:45] sudo iwlist wlan0 scan [13:45] ? [13:46] Peace-: yes that scanned all available ap's [13:46] Peace-: the device should show up as ra0 [13:47] i think the only way it 's the instlalation of the new driver [13:47] i guess [13:47] that's what i'm trying to install a new driver [13:48] ok you need to blacklist some drivers but you can do that even after you have tried to compile it [13:48] Peace-: will you help me please [13:48] i can try [13:48] :) [13:49] wait there i show you what drivers i got downloaded [13:52] http://paste.ubuntu.com/398326/ [13:53] sorry eirann i have to go [13:53] it's ok [13:56] Hello guys i try to use skype in kubuntu but it shut it when i cal someone or test it no sound working or video working in skype its just shut it how can i fix it? === eirann is now known as maxd [14:02] Lanthes have you tried to reinstall it ? [14:03] Or maybe you didn't choose the right sound device [14:04] how can i edit which services to run at start? === maxd is now known as eirann [14:07] system settings [14:07] advanced [14:08] my vsftpd isn't listed there, e.g. [14:09] :/ === sysadmin is now known as Guest60420 [14:36] can anybody here on 9.04 using KDE 4.4.1 visit this page and see any movies http://www.brinkthegame.com [14:36] youtube works for me no problem, other flash based content like liveleaks works for me, but some sites that use flash dont work for me in either Konqueror or Firefox [14:37] visiting the above site in konqueror I can see the loading icon *but* the page never loads. visiting it in firefox, I see absolutely nothing [14:38] vbgunz: it works fine for me, though I am on KDE 4.3.x and kubuntu 9.10 [14:38] vbgunz: I wouldn't worry much about supporting kubuntu 9.04, support for it runs out in like 6 weeks [14:40] I can't visit it with my current setup and would like to confirm if this is an issue wider than personal atm [14:40] vbgunz: what version of flash are you using, and is it the free or non-free version? [14:44] I believe it is the non-free version [14:44] from the repos [14:45] vbgunz: that could very well be the issue [14:45] wait... [14:45] nvm [14:45] thought you said free [14:45] xD [14:45] Kage: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [14:45] FloodBotK1: shutup [14:46] haha [14:47] Kage, please dont use the enter key as punctuation [14:48] hmm, flash is working for me now, I had to close down all my instances of konqueror and firefox to get it to work [14:49] haha, I didn't think brink the game was really a game. I seen the same trailer with team fortress 2 voiceovers and it was perfect. a very serious tf2. its really a game. thanks flash. [14:51] ciao [14:52] !it | schadon [14:52] schadon: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) === jtheuer_ is now known as jtheuer [15:37] hello [15:37] guye_: hi [15:38] wow,so many people === eirann is now known as Lavin [15:40] lol === tetsu is now known as Thetetsu [16:09] hi [16:10] slow-motion: hi [16:10] hi shadeslayer [16:11] hola [16:29] is there a kubuntu-bugs or should i remain with ubuntu-bugs? [16:32] Zus: kubuntu bugs mailing list> [16:38] shadeslayer, t/y [16:43] I've downloaded kubuntu 10.04 beta1, but I've no taskbar nor K menu, or watch, or anything except desktop folder [16:44] I understand is a beta, but...! [16:44] markit: it's not stable [16:44] Peace-: ok, but beta are for testing, and having something you can't test is mad [16:44] no you have tested [16:44] how can one move the 'plasma button' from the top right corner? [16:45] and the test failed ::= [16:45] probably I can add by hand, but I'm not able to, and majority of people will be pissed off [16:45] Peace-: lol, basic functionality should be provided [16:45] testers are smater than users. [16:45] if you are not able to solve byyourself [16:45] ... [16:45] Peace-: ok for alpha, not for beta [16:45] you are not a tester :) [16:46] Peace-: if you rely only on "tester", you reduce a lot tests that are done [16:46] markit: anyway beacuse i am a Peace maker [16:46] try this [16:46] sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [16:46] Peace-: ok [16:47] Peace-: is already installed [16:48] 1.165 version [16:48] well i dunno then try to remane $HOME/.kde [16:48] and log out and log in [16:48] now i will restart on lucid [16:50] mmm is asking me username and password... what are them? [16:50] (live cd) [16:50] found [16:50] (ubuntu and no pass) [16:51] After repo upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 no wireless networks are being detected (or at least displayed) by the network manager [16:52] ok lucid inside [16:53] Peace-: no luck with .kde rename [16:53] markit: download the alternate cd [16:53] btw, I'm trying to add them manually, but I've no clue, nothing easy like "restore default" [16:53] and install that [16:53] (very useful even if you delete the bottom bar by mistake...) [16:54] here i have a lucid installation and it's working fine [16:54] Peace-: why alternate should be better? because it grabs all the package from internet? [16:54] Peace-: maybe you just upgraded from alpha right? [16:54] markit: of course [16:54] markit: have you tried the dailybuild ? [16:55] ok, so could be a problem of beta1, and will not solve from alternate cd [16:55] the first rule of a tester ... [16:55] don't use only a way [16:55] Peace-: thanks a lot for your help :) I probably will give up, just was shocked for a release that is so broken [16:55] and probably is a little problem to fix [16:55] it's normal [16:55] but has been released this bad way [16:55] alpha and beta are not so nice like you could think [16:56] the most of time you should download daily build iso [16:56] and the alternate version... [16:56] Peace-: you have to agree that is not a good thing have it broke that way [16:56] just because of these issues [16:56] markit: you haven't tested linux like me [16:56] that is [16:56] ok, but before release a beta, just try to boot and see if is ok is the minimum [16:57] welll infact there are daily build iso.... [16:57] just fearing final will be broken too if few people tries beta [16:57] Peace-: oh, I thought that daily builds were for real "deelpy involved tester", and releases for "simple testers" like me [16:57] markit: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ [16:57] in any case, I top ranting :) [16:58] I apreciate kde guy's work too much [16:58] is a "rant by a lover" [16:58] they don't work very well... [16:58] anyway... [16:58] but they are few [16:59] Peace-: beta is of 18, so better wait some more days [16:59] that is the problem [16:59] Peace-: really, big boys are all around gnome [16:59] ubuntu decision I thing is very responsable of this [16:59] s/thing/tnhink [16:59] we can live without gnome anyway i think you should talk about that on [16:59] !chat [16:59] Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin [16:59] omg [16:59] markit: what do you mean with big boys are all around gnome? [16:59] !offtopic [17:00] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! === shadeslayer is now known as Guest56644 [17:01] orb01: Qt were GPL, while gkt were much less free (lgpl), so people that think they have to make distro that can be easely turned into a closed proprietary platform tend to prefer LGPL [17:01] so main distributors turned to gnome [17:01] hehe, that makes sense [17:01] if only Qt were released GPL from the beginning... sigh [17:02] what a duplication of code... what a confusion for users.-.. [17:02] btw, kde loves hurt itself with the single click default [17:02] markit: please ... go on offtopic channel [17:02] I will never understand that, for instance [17:02] !offtopic [17:02] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [17:02] Peace-: I apologise, just no one was talking so... [17:03] how can I re-install and re-detect my entire sound system [17:03] I keep the channel alive :) [17:03] I mean re-detect the sound hardware etc [17:03] I'm on kubuntu 9.10 and pulseaudio seems gone [17:03] or let's say not working really well [17:03] remove it [17:03] it's useless [17:03] for the most of users [17:04] bentob0x: delete linux-sound-base and all packages with alsa in it [17:04] then reinstall them [17:04] that will fix most if not all sound problems where sound worked at one point [17:04] also remove .xine/catalog.cache [17:05] and how can I find the package list? [17:05] What's the story with the "Blocked Updates" in the update manager? [17:05] in ~ [17:05] is there a list of things to do somewhere? [17:05] corigo: wait or type on konsole sudo apt-get upgrade [17:05] bentob0x: you know how to use apt-get or aptitude? [17:05] yes [17:06] apt-get remove --purge ? [17:06] linux-sound-base [17:06] ? [17:06] yep [17:06] k [17:06] and also the packages with alsa in the name [17:06] I assume you did not install timidity/pulse or other things, if so you need to remove those as well [17:06] hi [17:06] alsa-base* alsa-utils* is proposed for removal [17:07] k done [17:07] bentob0x: now reboot, and reinstall them [17:07] .xine too? [17:07] that catalog file? [17:07] yep, just the file, it's not a package [17:08] do I have to reboot or can I restart stuff manually? [17:09] reboot would be best [17:09] :( [17:09] k [17:09] brb [17:09] right now some stuff might still be in use === shadesla1er is now known as shadeslayer [17:29] has anybody an idea why my fdisk does not terminate if a device is connected? [17:30] it lists everything, then, when it reaches the usb device it crashes/does not terminate [17:31] the device is formatted in ext3, i use the lucid beta [17:32] I cant find info getting data off of a N96. First, the computer is not even recognizing it. Two, the screen is cracked and I have a new phone. === bruno is now known as Guest66851 [17:37] hi [17:38] I upgraded my system to ubuntu lucid and got stuck into this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229525#c6 [17:38] hello all. i have installed kubuntu 9.10. i have tried to install the drivers for my TV, but no success. I got a message saying that kwin is unstable. Does anyone have an idea on how to solve the problem? [17:38] ... this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229525 [17:38] i tried install lucid it wouldnt finish :/ [17:38] installing* [17:39] smokealot: WHIch version ?... alternate desktop ? [17:40] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/current/ [17:40] that one [17:40] it would install just take 45min's each percentage [17:40] which drove me crazy [17:41] so i just put back karmic koala which installed in no time [17:42] hey ppl, i need help. today i downloaded kubuntu-karmic koala cd and burned it to disc, but every time i try to install it installation freezes. i can move the cursor around, but i cant click on anything. [17:42] u might have the wrong build for your system [17:43] or just a bad cd [17:43] in short: can't run kde because the ati driver doesn't work with lucid, BUT even if I remove/reinstall xserver-xorg-*, kde says [17:43] ksmserver: error while loading shared libraries: libatiuki.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [17:43] i took i386 version, as i have intel cpu, and checked the cd, it has no error [17:43] im trying to install it on my notebook [17:43] asus a3500l* === eirann is now known as Lavin [17:49] CC939 have you tried with a DVD iso ? [17:50] uh shit [17:51] i burned cd iso to dvd [17:51] could that be the issue? [17:51] yeah [17:51] the cd iso has to be on a regular cd-r [17:51] i had probs with the cd-r also [17:52] oh [17:52] i dl'd the dvd iso which is 3gigs or so [17:52] and i had no install problems [17:52] do you maybe have link to dvd iso torrent? [17:52] cause i have to go work soon, and i cant download 3gigs in that time [17:53] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/karmic/release/ [17:54] can anyone tell me how to ssh into my asterisk server with certificates on the Terminal? [17:54] thx man, u saved me. [17:55] np [17:55] haha oh man, u must be kidding me [17:55] i run out of hdd space [17:55] guess its time for cleaning [18:00] hey is there an openoffice chat? [18:01] nvm i found it [18:04] Hi ppl [18:04] hey [18:05] I'm looking for a KDE equivalent for Cheese [18:05] any ideas ? [18:06] im using xine plugin for playin streams, but it always plays the content in my browser window, what do i do in order to play it in a separate xine windows? [18:08] please can someone tell me how to enter a password containing the slash "/" character on the Konsole? [18:12] This is so silly [18:12] using "/" in a password [18:12] Sorry I have no idea [18:13] orb01: I just need to reinstall linux-sound-base after that and that's all? [18:13] bentob0x: ja :) [18:13] and what about the alsa-base etc ? [18:14] bentob0x: those as well [18:14] and reboot? [18:14] or will it work out of the box? [18:14] should work out of the box, if not you can reboot [18:14] bentob0x: nederlands by the way? [18:14] netherlands ? [18:15] aleen maar een beetje nederlands [18:15] okay [18:17] !nd | bentob0x [18:17] ? [18:17] !nl | bentob0x [18:17] bentob0x: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl [18:17] hehe [18:17] BluesKaj: I was just asking him if he spoke Dutch, don't overdo it [18:18] thx, english is ok, I was just answering to orb :) [18:18] just got here , so I do the lingo direct thing when I see it [18:19] direct to lingo chat , that is [18:24] Hi [18:25] Some People Tell Me About OpenSuse Is The Best KDe Linux It's true or false [18:25] i never used it [18:25] sounds like its for the other hand kind of guys [18:26] Plaiz Answer [18:27] kimo: #kubuntu-offtopic please [18:28] Ok tell me About some tweak i cant do it to Kubuntu to become More Stable and More Reliable [18:28] kimo: your one funny guy [18:29] hhhhh [18:29] Little bit because im crazy about linux hh [18:30] are you having problems with kubuntu? [18:30] Yes it's slow when im open Amarok or any multimedia file [18:30] what specs are your computer? [18:31] It's a old Pc But work fine whit XP [18:31] 512 Ram 2.40 Proc [18:31] don't laught [18:31] that could be why programs run slow [18:31] not the os [18:31] fault [18:31] but gnome work fine [18:32] no, that's not slow pc for Kubuntu even [18:32] if i add more ram kubuntu can run speedly [18:32] kimo: KDE is generally heavier on your computer than Gnome. Disable some graphical stuff in the System Settings or go for a lighter desktop environment. [18:32] orb01: false [18:32] Tm T what do you mean [18:33] kde does use more cpu than gnome [18:33] kimo: first of all, see what uses your resources, press ctrl+esc [18:33] smokealot: depends entirely on what kind of settings you have (: [18:34] X.Org is the first [18:34] kimo: what's next? [18:34] thats what orb01 said [18:34] Tm_T: I'm talking about a fresh install. [18:34] is firefox im run it now [18:35] i got a feeling his problem is firefox spiking [18:36] Xorg is the first then firefox then Quassel then plasma [18:36] kimo: and if you close firefox, all works fine? [18:36] yes a little Bit but not a big difference [18:37] kimo: have you disabled nepomuk and strigi? you might like to try if that makes any difference [18:37] Can I use AirTunes w/ Kubuntu 9.10? [18:37] and if you can live without them, you save nice bunch of ram [18:38] i dont now all this because im new in linux [18:38] Is there something built-in, or do I need to install something, or is it mostly not an available feature. [18:38] rmrfslash: what it is? [18:38] AirTunes? [18:38] We have some Apple wireless device w/ a network audio system [18:38] can you tell me how to disable all options you tell me about Mr.Tm T [18:39] and can you tell me what is the job of this options [18:39] itunes can stream audio to this thing and I was wondering if there was support for doing this w/ kubuntu [18:39] kimo: I'm fairly certain Nepomuk and Strigi are already disabled. You can find options for them in your System Settings, but they are disabled by default. [18:39] orb01: no they are not (: [18:40] Tm_T: 4.3 they are, 90% certain. [18:40] kimo: systemsettings -> advanced tab -> desktop search [18:40] in my pc just Strigi disabled but Nepomuk is not disabled [18:40] but she eat just 310 Kb [18:41] orb01: disabled or fails to run? [18:41] Tm _T Can you Give me your Email i want to share my experience whit you [18:41] Tm_T: Strigi is disabled and fails to run without a java symlink, I know about that. Nepomuk was also disabled by default here. [18:41] plaizz [18:42] im sorry guys but with 512mb of ram opening songs or folders while having firefox open and god knows what els he is doing "will" run slow [18:42] I agree. [18:43] In any case, I do not believe Nepomuk is a problem here at all. You can't expect an old system to run fast when you have Compiz on, and the plasma widgets and such. [18:43] Disabling those would be much more effective. [18:43] smokealot: true, unless knows how to keep system slim, I know it can be done with 256 MiB ram and KDE and all that jazz [18:43] Of course downgrading to 3.x would help. [18:43] orb01: Compiz? [18:44] Tm_T: I meant compositing in general. [18:44] yes Linux is the power [18:45] Some People Talk about Opensuse is very fast [18:45] orb01: depends lots of about graphics drivers, first gen netbooks can handle kwin with effects on [18:46] Tm_T how to remove software cash [18:46] Tm_T: turning off effects always increases performance, regardless of your hardware. Also, kim has an old machine, and one would assume he therefore has an older graphics card as well. [18:47] true, I'm just saying that cannot be generalised (: [18:47] anyway, gotta poke some build errors -> [18:48] Tm_T how to remove inused Files in KDE [18:48] What do you use as VNC-server? [18:48] hello [18:49] i have this in my /etc/fstab: /dev/sdb1 /home/thomi/mythtv auto nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 2 [18:49] on a boot, it can't be accessed.. any idea? if i comment out this line in fstab, reboot and mount ddb1 manually with sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /home/thomi/mythtv it works fine [18:49] kimo: please find a beginners guide on the internet. [18:50] Ok Im not a beginners In linux but im beginners in KDE [18:51] kimo what do you want to remove [18:52] i want to remove cash [18:52] i want to free up space [18:52] from my local disc [18:52] kimo: sudo apt-get remove cash [18:52] Yes Thanks man [18:52] or sudo apt-get purge cash === eirann is now known as Lavin [19:49] I want to make a link 'folder' that will redirect everything sent to it to a certain Plasma widget (the "Magic Folder" widget, to be precise). Is thise possible? === wsr3193 is now known as raghorn === zbenjamin|away is now known as zbenjamin === shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ [20:13] i'm trying to install a theme. It's in synaptic but when i install nothing happens [20:33] Hi, Is Kubuntu has a freeware something like a "movie maker"? [20:35] asma: http://www.pitivi.org/ ? [20:36] Vroomfondle, thanks. [20:41] why does "init 3" not work on ubuntu? === |GuS| is now known as [GuS] [20:41] este si cineva care vorbeste romaneste === stanmiklos is now known as rossler [20:42] im trying to install nvidia 9800 drivers and it doesnt want X running... [20:43] and yeah i'm root [20:43] im always root [20:43] then don't do it with X running :) [20:43] how do i boot it up without x running [20:43] use the 'safe mode' option [20:44] that'll drop you to a console session [20:44] failsafe? [20:44] alrighty [20:44] a rooted... right , failsafe, a rooted console session [20:44] thanks mate [20:44] what did you get? a .deb for hte nvidia drivers? [20:44] well... anyhow.. I assume you have a howto to install them :) === linuxmce is now known as Mandrago [20:52] Hi, I use Kubuntu Lucid and I do not have sound in flash videos/animations in both rekonq and konqueror, any suggestions? [20:53] hunt: what have you tried? === marks is now known as fr0d0 [20:55] rekonq? === fr0d0 is now known as _fr0d0_ [20:57] hello there [20:58] the fonts are a little vague in thie system , where can I get it adjusted? [20:58] allo [20:58] vague fonts? heeh [20:58] i've got a question regarding twinview, i just set up a new metamode "null, 1680x105" and added it in xorg.conf [20:58] I wonder how they look like ^_^ [20:59] well, as if somebody rubbed nilk on some of the edges :p [20:59] when i strg alt + in order to change to the new metamode, the screen is offset by approx. 400 px to the right [20:59] the left one shuts down like it should, but the right one is offset [21:00] zematynnad: sorry, I didnt see your message [21:00] Mandrago: maybe you are searching for true type fonts [21:01] hunt: no prob [21:01] this is probably an earlier distro of kubuntu (I have linuxmce installed) [21:01] .. nilk? [21:01] zematynnad: well, I do get systemsounds [21:01] speaking of wich, where do I check which distro I have? [21:01] i have a problem where fdisk can read my partition table, windows can read my partition table but what ever partitiioner the kubuntu installer uses cant read it and i dont know why [21:01] hunt: have you tried all of the channels in kmix? [21:01] Mandrago: what is nilk? heheh [21:01] zematynnad: yes I checked the channels [21:02] nilk, milk....see? the font is so vague, I couldnt tell the difference :p [21:02] zematynnad: actually amarok is running at the moment [21:03] hunt: have you tried in kmix going to the Settings Menu and Selecting "Configure Channels" [21:03] ? [21:03] ah found it, I'm running release 3.5.8 [21:03] hunt: there might be a separate channel that needs to be used [21:04] lol [21:04] zematynnad: you think the browser might use a seperate channel than amarok or kopete? [21:04] zematynnad: I tried different channels [21:04] Mandrago: you can adjuts 'anti-aliasing' settings in System Settings > appearance > fonts [21:04] hunt: it's possible [21:05] hunt: not all channels are visible in kmix by default [21:05] checking now typos [21:05] hunt: it might be one of the channels that is currently hidden [21:05] zematynnad: I wonder wether there is a website with sound but without flash, where I could test wether it is the fault of flash or of the browser... [21:05] zematynnad: I tried hidden channels too [21:06] hunt: not that I know of [21:07] any recommended settings for anti-aliasing typos? [21:07] zematynnad: I tried all output related channels... [21:08] hunt: sorry - out of ideas [21:09] zematynnad: yes me too, I guess I have no other chance than installing another browser and try it there.. [21:09] hunt: which browser are you currently using? [21:10] Mandrago: I use defaults, it works for me, then again, I've installed a gangload of other fonts :), many from other office suites like MS office fonts :) [21:10] they work fine for me [21:11] Mandrago: I think defaults is, anti-aliasing[font smoothing] for fonts between 8pt-16pt is I think [21:11] well neither of the options given me are preferable, so its up to configuring a good one [21:11] but you can just check on 'enabled' and configure it yourself, or set anti-aliasing for all [21:11] Mandrago: areyou sure it isn't the skin/theme in use, instead of the font? [21:12] zematynnad: havent decided yet wether I'm gonna use rekonq or konqueror... [21:12] zematynnad: but I just had a good idea that might help me... [21:13] its a rather default theme [21:13] zematynnad: installing kubuntu-restricted-extras and non-free-codecs *cough* [21:13] Hi, everyone. When I search (ctrl+f) for some text on a web page in firefox and that "something" is not there, I hear a scary loud beep that freaks me out. Could that be turned off? [21:13] hunt: good luck [21:13] hunt: you can get the flash plugin with -> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree; [21:14] Typos_King: yes I know, the flashplugin was automatically installed when I opened konqueror the first time [21:14] MartinBlumen: I thinkk those are the System Settings > Advanced > Notifications [21:14] I have all those turned off myself :} [21:15] maybe its the resolution [21:16] yep [21:16] it was the resolution [21:16] a resolution for a tv it was, not a monitor [21:17] aaaah freedom! Non eye gauging fonts to read anymore :D [21:19] heheh [21:19] Typos_King: Thanks a lot. Even though I wasn't able to tweak it to produce any pleasant sound, setting "duration" to 1ms turns that horror off. === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [21:23] any here who have experience running linuxmce here? [21:24] * boesmans looking for good comedy movie, hope someone can help === Walter is now known as Guest1846 [21:25] Something's gotta give [21:25] ... [21:25] boesmans: uncle buck :P [21:26] thanks Typos_King :D [21:26] hhee [21:26] I've been watching a lot of 1980's snl lately [21:27] boesmans: ever seen 'office space'? [21:27] no what is it about Typos_King? [21:29] http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/QeWe4QM6 this is my problem now to figure out how to fix it === jtheuer is now known as heuer === heuer is now known as jtheuer [21:30] boesmans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfCYzJAgwrw [21:31] it's a hilarous movie, the director of it is Mike Judge, the guy that makes beavis and butthead and king of the hill [21:31] hehe ok [21:31] i'll dl that :) ty === tilc is now known as Diina === shei is now known as OqP === OqP is now known as Sheitan === Sheitan is now known as Sheitan_oqP === Sheitan_oqP is now known as Sheitanlaway [22:09] muhahahaha [22:09] halo world [22:09] =) [22:09] helo* [22:09] hello [22:10] ? [22:11] koro4e ya ni4e ne ponimayu [22:11] Anyone from Russia? [22:12] !ru | vankosa [22:12] vankosa: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [22:12] thanks [22:20] Anyone here knows about grub errorS? [22:21] depends [22:22] you can ask, worst case scenario, noone will know..but won't kill you :| [22:22] When I boot I am now getting an error about "No Such Device 16467890cfcc2f39" I was using Windows, mouse seemed locked so I rebooted and now I can still get in Linux but not Windows. If I use a Grub boot floppy and try to get into Windows I get a different error. That error says invalid signature. [22:22] I asked in a grub room but not getting any response. [22:23] ok [22:24] get back into linux, and run -> sudo update-grub; [22:24] 16467890cfcc2f39 I'm assuming is meaing the UUID used by the grub as well as the OS to address partitions [22:25] and now and then, there are issues when some app changes the UUID here and not there [22:26] I don't get how the boot could get messed up just because I had to reboot because I was having a problem with the mouse. [22:27] I am in Linux right now. Only working OS right now. [22:27] run -> sudo update-grub; [22:28] Done [22:29] I will try rebooting now. [22:29] Anything else needs to be done? [22:29] no, try rebooting [22:29] kay. Thank you. [22:32] No change. Same message. [22:35] I still get "No such device" when I try and boot to Windows. [22:35] same error message. [22:36] ... [22:37] go to /boot/grub/ [22:37] if there's a grub.cfg.... delete it === christian is now known as Guest10478 [22:37] I was going to boot to a WIn cd and redo the partition, but then I would lose linux boot. Can I run that command in a live linux CD to restore grub? [22:37] algum brasileiro ae [22:37] Okay. [22:37] then retry the update-grub [22:38] daniel_ quite sure ithas to be some mismatch between maybe the UUID in grub.cfg and the one in /etc/fstab [22:38] Okay. [22:38] !pt | Guest10478 [22:38] Guest10478: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado. [22:39] daniel_: but yes, you can do a windows install and restore Grub from the live-cd [22:40] but if it's the UUID, not sure if a win32 reinstall will address it ^_^ [22:40] I cannot delete the file. [22:40] right [22:40] you have to sudo rm FILE [22:41] Ah. Thank you [22:41] I cant seem to configure a samba share on kubuntu karmic on kde 4.4 [22:41] its says I dont have permission [22:41] Done. [22:42] DO I run the update grub again? [22:42] daniel_: redo the sudo update-grub; when done, check the UUID for the win32 entry in grub.cfg if it reflects the same as in /etc/fstab [22:42] for the same partition listed [22:42] Okay. [22:42] !samba | bigbrovar [22:42] bigbrovar: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [22:44] Typos_King: I know all that, I cant share a folder.. from dolphin is what am saying :) [22:44] heheh [22:44] haven't done much samba myself yet :} [22:44] Typos_King: when I got to share folder tap it says not authorised or some stuff like that [22:45] Typos_King: am googling seems to be a known issue [22:47] As far as I can tell Windows isn't listed anywhere in fstab. [22:47] Any way to send you the file? [22:47] or contents? [22:48] pastebin.ca :) [22:48] you can paste both, grub.cfg and fstab :) [22:48] Okay. [22:48] Are you Canadian? [22:49] no hehe [22:50] http://pastebin.ca/1847576 [22:50] well, how about pastie.org or pastie2.org or pastebin.com or webdevout.net/test :) [22:50] there are many pastebins [22:51] http://pastebin.ca/1847580 === ilter_ is now known as ilter [22:55] saludos [22:55] Hello. Could someone say how can i drop a tcp connection? [22:55] nop [22:56] Is there a way to see if Linux sees a webcam I hooked up? Not sure what brand it is though. [22:56] daniel_ yeah... no UUID for the ntfs partitions, meaning they're not automounting, they're mounted using the HAL services... no biggie, try that new grub.cfg if the win32 doesn't go still, it'll drop you back in grub screen, press 'e' to edit the win32 entry and delete the 'search....' line, and ctrl-x to retry that without the 'search....' line [22:57] Okay. [22:57] daniel_: you don't happen to have Hiren's CD handy, do you? [22:57] Always [22:57] hehe [22:57] 10.1? 10.2? [22:57] I have a CDRW that always updates with new versions [22:57] I believe 10.1 [22:57] ohh... good [22:58] I know loads on PC's but the Linux boot is confusing. [22:58] if you need to get to the win32 partition, Hiren's cd has an option at the bottom to 'boot windows with ntldr', meaning to boot it when its boot loader is not int the HD mbr, and that'd get you in [22:59] Hmmm. I didn't see that one. [22:59] MIght not be 10.1 or 10.2 Maybe just 10. WIll have to find out. [22:59] it's ... .in the ..I think is the 2nd option at the bottom choices [22:59] in the 10.1, which is also the one I have [23:00] Okay. I will reboot to try both boot options and if fails I will try the bootcd. [23:00] yeah [23:00] I appreciate the assist bud. [23:00] and you don't have to reinstall win32 either === linuxmce is now known as Manndago === Manndago is now known as Mandago [23:01] worst case, just using the hiren's cd put ntldr back and restroe grub later [23:01] I am starting to hate Windoze. Winblows. lol [23:01] Yes [23:01] Just boot xp cd and restore mbr/boot then restore grub. [23:01] if all else fails/ [23:01] yep [23:02] ilter: drop a tcp? [23:02] One last thing before I reboot. I had Ubuntu installed, then installed KDE. Now I don't have anythinjg but LogOff to shut down. IS there a way to fix that? [23:03] not sure... you might need to install... kubuntu-desktop package.. but can't be sure [23:04] I will look that up later. Thank you. [23:17] typos king I have Hiren's boot cd 10.0 and didn't realize there was an update. [23:18] woo [23:18] I have 10.1 and works well, dunno on .2 [23:18] I will let you know. [23:18] Thank you for the hewads up. [23:18] Been busy lately and forgot to check on an update. [23:25] While I wait, is there a way to find out if Linux sees a webcam I hooked up? [23:27] lspci [23:27] Google Dance says it is an ezonics camera [23:27] or lsusb [23:27] or you can always check with lshw [23:27] Terminal? [23:27] yes, or you can install the GUI lshw-gtk or hardmon [23:29] This might be it: Sunplus Technology Co., Ltd Flexcam 100 [23:29] Sees my PSP. [23:30] is there any way to get my desktops to be 4x1 instead of 2x2? [23:37] Typos_King: Yes i need to drop tcp connections. [23:50] get the plasmoid "pager" go to pager settings and configure it for one row insted of two.I use compiz not kwin....