| === StevenK_ is now known as StevenK | ||
| persia | So, I'm a little confused by https://launchpad.net/builders | 07:51 |
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| wgrant | What about it? | 07:51 |
| persia | I see some stuff as "private source" and other stuff in detail, when I know other folk see it as "private source". What governs how it gets seen? | 07:51 |
| wgrant | persia: Whether you can view the archive in which it is building. | 07:51 |
| wgrant | Or the branch, soon. | 07:52 |
| persia | Ah. So if it's building for a P3A to which I've been granted access, I can also see the builds, and if not, not? | 07:52 |
| wgrant | For the P3A case, 'granted access' meaning upload access, not just a subscription. | 07:53 |
| persia | OK. That makes more sense. | 07:53 |
| * persia has to go dig through indirect memberships at some point : the mess is too complex | 07:54 | |
| mrintegrity | hi, is there any integration between launchpad and netbeans? | 10:56 |
| persia | Not directly. What sort of integration do you seek? | 10:58 |
| mrintegrity | versioning with bazaar | 10:59 |
| persia | Based on http://wiki.bazaar-vcs.org/IDEIntegration there is an open call for a plugin. | 10:59 |
| mrintegrity | cool | 11:00 |
| persia | Well, kinda. Needs someone to write it :) | 11:00 |
| wgrant | #bzr may be better informed about Bazaar integration issues. | 11:00 |
| persia | Indeed. | 11:00 |
| mrintegrity | thanks | 11:00 |
| persia | And #netbeans on netbeans | 11:01 |
| mrintegrity | I have been using netbeans because of it's relatively good php and symfony support.. was wanting to use launchpad too | 11:01 |
| persia | Just needs a plugin. Both bzr and netbeans have good plugin support. This just isn't the best channel to ask :) | 11:01 |
| mrintegrity | ok, thanks :) | 11:02 |
| === lionel_ is now known as lionel | ||
| mrintegrity | think i will just have to use netbeans local versioning and then manually bzr it to launchpad | 11:10 |
| persia | How long should "Scanning for processes to kill in build" take? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/2.29.9-0ubuntu2/+build/1569828 seems like it ought to have finished some time ago. | 11:26 |
| wgrant | Gnargh. | 11:26 |
| wgrant | How long has it been at that point? | 11:27 |
| persia | Dunno precisely. At least half an hour. | 11:28 |
| persia | Finished was > 2 hours ago, but I'm unsure if there's lag in the rest of the commands for some reason. | 11:28 |
| wgrant | Oh, right, it's been a while, yeah. | 11:32 |
| wgrant | I've not seen a build hang there before. | 11:32 |
| persia | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/likewise-open/5.4.0.42111-1/+build/1568679 is even more extreme | 11:32 |
| manish | wgrant: You there? | 11:32 |
| wgrant | And let's not even mention https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ghc6/6.12.1-12/+build/1526050 | 11:33 |
| wgrant | manish: I am. | 11:33 |
| manish | wgrant: As you recommened using .NET libraries, I was digging through them | 11:33 |
| persia | wgrant: That's intentional, actually. it has an infinite activity loop because it's expected to take 1-2 weeks to build. | 11:33 |
| manish | I stumbled across X509 certificates | 11:33 |
| wgrant | Hah. | 11:33 |
| manish | is it used in launchpad? | 11:33 |
| manish | i could not find it any the hacking document | 11:34 |
| wgrant | manish: Launchpad uses SSL, yes. | 11:34 |
| wgrant | Normal HTTP libraries take care of that for you. | 11:34 |
| manish | wgrant: just have a look at this http://code.google.com/p/devdefined-tools/wiki/OAuthConsumer | 11:34 |
| manish | this guy is using X509 certificates which he generated | 11:35 |
| manish | Google allows uploading X509 cerificates.. IIRC Lauchpad has no such option | 11:35 |
| wgrant | Oh, no, Launchpad doesn't use client certificates. | 11:35 |
| manish | then what should be done in this case? | 11:35 |
| manish | should I set that client certificate section to null? | 11:36 |
| manish | wgrant: so should I still use .NET Oauth libraries or continue from the code I showed you last night? | 11:38 |
| manish | means re-doing things | 11:38 |
| wgrant | I think you should use the provided library. | 11:38 |
| wgrant | You shouldn't need a certificate. I would check the code and see what it does with it. | 11:38 |
| manish | wgrant: even I am trying how to deal with it | 11:40 |
| qense | Will lazr-js get packaged for Lucid? I assume it's already too late, but I'd love it when it would. | 11:49 |
| wgrant | I don't know of any plans. | 11:52 |
| qense | ok | 11:53 |
| qense | then I'll use the branch | 11:53 |
| lifeless | bst way to get it packaged: do it | 11:54 |
| qense | of course | 11:55 |
| qense | maybe I'll provide a PPA, most of the work needed for packaging it is already done in setup.py and distribute_setup.py | 11:55 |
| persia | lifeless: Hey. You use netbeans, don't you? | 12:09 |
| lifeless | persia: when I'm doing java stuff, yes | 12:37 |
| persia | lifeless: How do you use it with bzr? Just bounce to CLI? | 12:38 |
| lifeless | persia: yes | 12:45 |
| lifeless | we need someone that use netbeans for java, knows bzr, and wants to build and maintain a bzr vcs plugin | 12:46 |
| lifeless | I don't have time :( | 12:46 |
| persia | Oh well. I understand, but you meet all the other criteria so well :) | 12:46 |
| lifeless | I know :P | 12:48 |
| lifeless | I did actually branch netbeans to have a look | 12:48 |
| lifeless | but I ended up yak shaving bzr fast-import performance | 12:48 |
| persia | So instead of actually working on netbeans, you just made bzr good at hg? That's still a win. | 12:55 |
| lifeless | better at | 12:55 |
| slacker_nl | hi, | 14:04 |
| slacker_nl | i'm backporting an appliction, did a backport to karmic, now want to do the same for jaunty. I only changed the release in the changelog and now I keep getting the following error File <UPLOADED_FILE> already exists in <LOCATION>, but uploaded version has different contents | 14:06 |
| nhandler | slacker_nl: Change the version to append something like ~jaunty1 | 14:06 |
| slacker_nl | that is the only solution? | 14:07 |
| slacker_nl | mkay | 14:07 |
| persia | It is often wise, when uploading to PPAs, to upload to the *oldest* release you plan to support, and copy the packages to the newer releases, rather than work in reverse-chronological order. | 14:07 |
| mok0 | slacker_nl: yes | 14:07 |
| persia | (it being usually more unsafe to copy backwards than copy forwards) | 14:08 |
| slacker_nl | persia: yes.. but.. i made the original backport request for karmic, just wanted to see if it would work in jaunty, if so, create a backport request for that.. | 14:09 |
| persia | If you're using PPAs to preview the Ubuntu backport procedure then you need a new upload for each release, versioned as nhandler recommends. | 14:10 |
| slacker_nl | persia: but the oldest to newest approach would give me the same error? | 14:10 |
| slacker_nl | ok | 14:10 |
| persia | For normal PPA use (not backports prep), oldest to newest lets you copy without uploading again. Usually this is fine. Sometimes you need to reupload to fix something. | 14:11 |
| mok0 | slacker_nl: this is also what happens when Ubuntu moves from one release to the next... binary packages are copied | 14:11 |
| slacker_nl | mok0: that I know | 14:12 |
| slacker_nl | i was just suprised that I need to change the version to upload the same package for different releases | 14:13 |
| slacker_nl | ce'st tout :) | 14:13 |
| mok0 | slacker_nl: so if you do like persia says, you will understand that it works | 14:14 |
| slacker_nl | yes | 14:14 |
| slacker_nl | thnx for the help | 14:14 |
| slacker_nl | mok0/persia/nhandler ^^ | 14:15 |
| === doko_ is now known as doko | ||
| rdb | Where can I change my password? This is a stupid question, but I can't find a link to change it anywhere. | 17:09 |
| nigelb | rdb: login.launchpad.net | 17:13 |
| rdb | nigelb, thanks! | 17:14 |
| slacker_nl | question, will it be possible to support debian release pockets for ppa's? is this somewhere on a roadmap/wishlist? | 18:23 |
| cwickert | maybe this is a comletely stupid question, but... | 18:30 |
| cwickert | when I'm on bugs.launchpad.net, where is the link to file a new bug or to the advanced search? | 18:30 |
| crimsun | cwickert: you need to pick a project | 18:39 |
| crimsun | e.g., bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu | 18:39 |
| cwickert | crimsun, I don't want to query bugs, I want to file one. | 18:40 |
| cwickert | say I'm on bugs.launchpad.net and want to file a bug against launchpad. where is the link or where would I start? | 18:42 |
| crimsun | cwickert: bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad | 18:52 |
| crimsun | cwickert: trailing vertical edge, see e.g., https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug | 18:52 |
| cwickert | crimsun, and how to i get from bugs.lp.net to bugs.pl.net/lp without googeling? | 18:53 |
| cwickert | IMO the start page of a bug tracker should have direct links to file and query bugs | 18:54 |
| cwickert | I just filed a bug, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/542889 | 18:54 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 542889 in malone "bugs.launchpad.net needs a direct link to the advanced seach" [Undecided,New] | 18:54 |
| cwickert | bug why is it in "malone" and not in "launchpad"? | 18:55 |
| cwickert | https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad reads "bugs in launchpad itself" | 18:55 |
| crimsun | probably hysterical raisins | 18:55 |
| crimsun | it was originally called malone | 18:56 |
| cwickert | when I filed the bug I selected "launchpad itself" as project and the bug ended up in malone | 18:56 |
| * cwickert is confused | 18:56 | |
| crimsun | I would be just as confused | 18:57 |
| cwickert | oh, I selected "launchpad bugs". not launchpad itself | 18:58 |
| cwickert | but I still don't get the difference | 18:58 |
| cwickert | anyway, thanks for your help | 18:59 |
| cwickert | c u | 18:59 |
| geser | "launchpad" is all of launchpad and should be used when filing a bug about launchpad and you don't know which LP sub-project is the correct one | 19:24 |
| === james_w` is now known as james_w | ||
| geser | does https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/ list all available buildds? as I've a PPA build running on samarium which isn't listed on the builders page | 22:21 |
| wgrant | geser: Unless samarium has been marked un-OK or inactive recently, it should be listed. | 22:24 |
| wgrant | lamont: ^^? | 22:24 |
| lamont | hrm | 22:26 |
| lamont | I'll check that before filing my virt-manager bug | 22:26 |
| geser | it's just the listing on the overview page, as my PPA build got dispatched to samarium (10 min ago and currently building) | 22:27 |
| geser | I was just surprised to the see the amd64 build in the buildd overview page | 22:27 |
| geser | https://edge.launchpad.net/~geser/+archive/ppa/+build/1571098 | 22:28 |
| lamont | geser: it's an interesting feature of the UI | 22:36 |
| lamont | Active == Whether or not to present the builder publicly. | 22:37 |
| lamont | because that's a totally correct definition of the word | 22:37 |
| wgrant | Heh, yes, that was my suspicion. | 22:37 |
| wgrant | The field is unavailable publicly. | 22:37 |
| lamont | and I suspect that someone marked it inactive, and then it got cycled through the airlock. I'll make sure that we mark the buildd active when we give it back to buildds | 22:38 |
| wgrant | Of course, I don't think inactive builders are actually listed anywhere. | 22:39 |
| lamont | wgrant: you can still go .../builder/$NAME | 22:40 |
| wgrant | lamont: Right, but you can't find them except by looking at build listings. | 22:40 |
| lamont | on the bright side, having fixed samarium, there are no builders where active=false and manual=false and builderok=true | 22:41 |
| wgrant | How do you determine that? DB query? | 22:41 |
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