[00:32] hello [00:35] hi catchjaga [00:38] hi pedro3005 [00:38] I have been having this issue with ubuntu installed on hard drive. it boots properly and after 2 minutes the screen crashes and shows weird colors. While running from the live cd I used boot parameters acpi=off and nodma, but I coulddnt find an equivalent parameter for nodma for booting from hard drive. [00:40] I've never seen that problem [00:40] * seidos wonders what would cause such a thing [00:41] I also have not heard of noacpi or nodma modes. I've never enabled them off of a cd [00:41] catchjaga, what do you mean you can't find? [00:43] ide=nodma [00:43] This command disables DMA on all IDE devices and may be useful when having IDE-related problems. [00:44] seidos, weird... I was guessing something more related to the graphics card [00:44] I think to enable nodma he would have to add something to the kernel line in grub [00:44] seidos, yes [00:44] catchjaga, really I can't see how disabling DMA helps... but it does help? [00:44] pedro3005, I'm not certain what specifically he would have to modify in order to get nodma working off his hard drive install [00:46] well I found this "Open the file "drivers/ide/ide.c" in the kernel source directory. In this file, there's a global variable defined. Look for int noautodma = 0; and set it to 1. That's it." [00:46] yup.. while booting from live cd I had same issue, then I tried these 2 boot parameters and desktop was stable and was running for hours without any issues [00:46] that doesn't sound right, kernel source directory? scratch that [00:46] seidos, he'd have to recompile [00:47] catchjaga, then why can't you run with those two parameters normally? [00:48] pedro3005, catchjaga said he couldn't find a way to enable nodma on his hard drive install [00:48] nodma parameter is not available as grup boot options.. [00:48] is that right catchjaga? [00:48] sorry thats grub [00:48] catchjaga, I think you need to add it manually [00:48] catchjaga, just edit the grub line and add ide=nodma [00:48] I tried that too.. [00:49] from ubuntu 9.10 ide-ndma doesnt work.. [00:49] I found this info on ubuntu forums [00:50] canthus13, what info? that ide=nodma doesn't work? [00:50] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1396670 [00:50] catchjaga, did you use ide-ndma or ide=nodma? [00:50] I tried this as well.. didnt help [00:51] pedro3005: Eh? [00:51] I used ide=nodma [00:51] Oh. [00:51] :P [00:51] catchjaga, can you disable dma in the bios? [00:52] sorry canthus13 looks like a tab-complete gone awry [00:54] sorry my net connection keeps dropping [00:54] pedro3005: Im now logged in as catchjaga_ [00:54] seidos: All good. [00:55] catchjaga_, all right. I was asking if you can change your ide settings in the bios to pio mode 4 instead of dma [00:55] sorry [00:55] seidos, wait wait [00:55] how to do that? [00:55] catchjaga_, add the following parameter to your boot: [00:55] libata.dma=3 [00:56] pedro3005: ok [00:57] seidos, were you looking at some link? [00:57] I think I have tried that before.. didnt help.. anyways trying once again [00:58] pedro3005, I'm currently looking up how to modify a grub entry. I want to know how to do it [00:58] seidos, I think you press e at the grub prompt [00:58] ah [00:58] I was trying to find menu.lst [00:59] so you can't modify it anymore using a text editor? [00:59] its now grub.lst from grub 2 [01:00] seidos: no we can edit [01:00] seidos, you can, but if you're doing a one-time alteration or test, it's way much wiser to just edit at the grub prompt [01:00] ah, I see [01:00] * seidos takes a look at his grub.lst file [01:00] * seidos doesn't have a grub.lst file [01:02] seidos, neither do I [01:02] pedro3005, libata.dma=3 didnt help [01:03] seidos, try grub.cfg [01:03] pedro3005, yeah there it is /boot/grub/grub.cfg [01:03] catchjaga_, try libata.dma=0 [01:03] pedro3005, yup.. trying that now.. [01:06] pedro3005, libata.dma=0 didnt help [01:08] I have tried all options..from 0 to 4 [01:08] catchjaga_, can you disable dma mode on your ide controller in your systems bios? [01:08] probably not, but not sure what else to try [01:09] if it worked with the livecd it should be possible to get it working off of the hard drive [01:09] pedro3005, can it be any other issue? [01:09] catchjaga_, hm... if disabling dma works [01:10] gotta find a way to disable dma! :P [01:10] Im now editing from bios [01:11] what's wrong with his direct memory access ? [01:12] ibuclaw, i don't know, but apparently getting rid of it help [01:12] s [01:12] ibuclaw, from a livecd no problems when disabling dma, but off the hard drive after 2 minutes the screen prints a bunch of colors [01:13] I suppose it's possible that it's not a dma issue, that the graphical anomaly is a new problem now that he installed ubuntu to the hard drive [01:14] you could try booting with: pci=nomsi,nommcon [01:15] also, what did we learn about modprobe pedro3005 ? :) [01:15] ibuclaw, :| [01:16] actually, libata looks to be compiled into the kernel. ;) [01:16] if it were a module: [01:17] 'options libata dma=0' >> /etc/modprobe.d/options [01:39] pedro3005, I couldnt find an option in bios to diable dma [01:40] catchjaga, try what ibuclaw said [01:40] i got dropped in between.. [01:40] whats that? [01:40] you could try booting with: pci=nomsi,nommcon [01:40] ok [01:45] grub doesnt accept nommcon [01:45] pci=nomsi didnt work either [01:46] ibuclaw, help? [02:22] pedro, I finally found a solution that works.. I edited /etc/default/grub and added the parameters acpi=off noapic nolapic nodma to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT updated the grub and rebooted... now Im not seeing any screen crashes.... [02:23] catchjaga, great! [02:23] pedro thanks for your help [02:24] catchjaga, no problem [02:28] anybody here need help? [02:28] i'm available ifn you do [02:28] lol ZachK__ , you always do that [02:28] do what pedro3005 [02:29] ZachK__, ask if someone needs help... just stick around and wait for someone to ask a question [02:29] pedro3005: I just feel that it's appropriate to ask sometimes...just so people know that somebody is there [02:30] pedro3005: how ya doing man? [02:30] ZachK__, pretty good [02:30] ZachK__, after all, it's friday! [02:30] yup! [02:30] off tonight work saturday night off for three days aftah that!!!! [02:40] welcome slick666 [02:59] having connection issues slick666? [03:00] wifi is flakey [03:00] ZachK__, you're just dying to help aren't ya? ;) try the UBF [03:00] hey Phrea! [03:00] 'lo [03:01] pedro3005: not dying to help....just asking a question........simple conversation [03:01] my wubi install of beta1 doesnt work :\ [03:01] ZachK__, i wasn't insulting [03:01] it stalls [03:01] Phrea: i don't mess with beta one's [03:01] ya, thanks... [03:01] I just did... [03:02] lol [03:02] the live cd worked fine [03:02] sorry [03:02] I thought a Wubi install meant that it would install like a program... [03:02] apperantly, that is not the case at all [03:02] it creates a dualboot [03:06] oh yea this is the help room isnt it [03:08] hi Raidsong [03:08] hello pedro3005 [03:09] Raidsong, how are you? [03:10] im good how about yourself? [03:10] Raidsong, good, good [03:12] Raidsong, are you banned from jswolfbot? [03:12] no i dont think so why? [03:12] Raidsong, come over [03:13] now im banned [03:13] so you wanted me to come over just to be banned? [03:13] Raidsong, no [03:15] Raidsong, i told you you had to lie [03:15] you did? [03:15] Raidsong, yes, don't you remember? [03:16] not really [03:16] good chance you did but i wasnt listening [03:16] Raidsong, yeah [03:17] well i was banned for ban evasion from what it looks like [03:18] although i dont remember the first ban [03:18] Raidsong, MJ94 said you were being a saint [03:19] i havent been in there in at least a month [03:19] perhaps longer === steelsteve is now known as wishyouwereme === wishyouwereme is now known as wishiwasyou === wishiwasyou is now known as Steelsteve [03:41] !nickchange ! Steelsteve [03:41] Factoid nickchange ! steelsteve not found [03:42] !nickchange | Steelsteve [03:42] Steelsteve: Factoid nickchange not found [04:28] wb phillw [04:28] i mean Phrea [04:29] thanks [04:29] Phrea: so what's up? [04:29] I just came back from a fresh dualboot install :) [04:29] well, that's up [04:29] oh wow [04:29] that sucks.... [04:29] it does... :D [04:30] Oh well. [04:30] the other dualboot [with Beta1] broke [04:30] so I reinstalled Karmic again [04:31] Phrea: i've enjoyed karmic [04:31] can't wait to see 10.04 [04:31] well, I havent, actually [04:31] I upgraded to Karmic... [04:31] that should say enough [04:31] :) [04:31] Phrea: oh.... [04:32] let's say ouch :D [04:32] wasnt a great success :) [04:33] but, I'm persistent :D [04:36] Phrea: ah....so am i....actually i'm stubborn [04:37] I WILL get what I want, no matter what [04:37] OS limitations dont bother me much :D [04:38] I'll just beat it into submission :P [04:43] andrew_46: question [04:43] andrew_46: if you have time [04:43] ZachK__: You have only just caught me :) [04:44] andrew_46: ok.....are you a member of the wiki fg? [04:44] ZachK__: I am not even a member of the UBT any more I am afraid [04:44] Looks like I need to be de-voiced still [04:45] hi andrew_46 [04:45] pedro3005: hi :) [04:45] pedro3005: are you a wiki fg member? [04:45] morning [04:45] hey hobgoblin [04:45] see you guys..... [04:45] ZachK__, i don't think so [04:46] pedro3005: would you like to be? [04:46] hi ZachK__ [04:46] pedro3005: if so pm me and we shall discuss it...... [04:46] hobgoblin: how is ya? [04:46] tired [04:46] waking up [04:46] be right back folks [04:46] ZachK__, what's that? [04:46] hello hobgoblin [04:47] hi pedro3005 [04:48] pedro3005: what's what [04:48] welcome back steelsteve [04:48] hi [04:48] sorry about earlier [04:48] steelsteve: ?? [04:48] forgot I was on this channel as well [04:48] the name changes [04:49] steelsteve: oh it's ok....i've done it......alot.....just a thought.... [04:49] just wanted to let you know before somebody higher up did [04:49] ok [04:49] pedro3005: what is what? [04:49] thanks [04:49] ZachK__, wiki fg [04:50] pedro3005: would you like a link?\ [04:50] ZachK__, ok [04:50] pedro3005: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Wiki [04:50] anyways, I need to figure out the default path for Thunderbird, installed through the USC [04:50] steelsteve: USC? [04:50] ubuntu software center [04:50] USC [04:50] ah... [04:51] sorry...memory is a little dull [04:51] steelsteve: it'd be the same as through synaptic I would think [04:51] ah default path.... [04:51] yeah [04:51] hobgoblin: i think it is but a little different not sure though...let me do a quick check [04:51] I still don't know it if it was through synaptiv [04:52] /usr/bin [04:53] thanks hobgoblin [04:54] I'm making thunderbird into a RSS manager [04:54] welcome [04:54] steelsteve: whereis whateveryoulookfor :) [04:54] much better than opening up firefox and BAM! information overload [04:54] pedro3005: still there? [04:54] ZachK__, yeah [04:54] pedro3005: look at the link i sent u? [04:55] ZachK__, yeah actually. but I don't have much time or interest for it, thanks anyway [04:56] pedro3005: ok....just checking...I'm trying to come up with a comprehensive list about who's actually in the group, who's not, and who wants to be as I probably will be taking over the lead position here soon [04:57] ah!! the guy who was making a factoid of me leading... scary [04:58] steelsteve: right.... [04:58] :p [04:58] steelsteve: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZachK_ [04:59] yeah, your profile pic says it all [04:59] scary!!!! [04:59] xD [04:59] chokes on tea ... [05:00] laugh it up giuys...laugh it up [05:00] ok, I'll laugh it up even if I'm not a giuys [05:00] sorry hobgoblin [05:00] steelsteve: right........ [05:01] :p [05:01] :) [05:01] hobgoblin: you should know me good enough by now..... [05:01] steelsteve: it's 5AM I'm awake early and I am now wide awake lol [05:02] lol [05:02] ZachK__: yep - I almost left the channel [05:02] and steelsteve that is an older pic....i look alot different [05:02] lol [05:02] WTF!?!?!!?!? [05:02] lol [05:03] I don't know, even if I was a helping hand here I still wouldn't put an actual pic of myself online [05:03] steelsteve: how do you know that's me? [05:03] ZachK__: you'd almost have to hope not ... [05:04] "(01:02:08 AM) ZachK__: and steelsteve that is an older pic....i look alot different" [05:04] suggests that you are the person in that picture [05:04] hobgoblin: ok enough now..... [05:04] :) [05:04] unless you stole HIS identity, trashed it, and don't care who has it now [05:06] ok, thanks hobgoblin [05:06] btw your name is also a name of a beer from wychwood in britian [05:07] steelsteve: wha???? [05:07] funnily enough I know that steelsteve :) [05:07] lol [05:08] though that is not the nick's origin [05:08] I work in a liquor store who are specialists in getting odd and cool stuff [05:08] and hobgoblin is a very popular beer [05:09] I'm more of a guiness bloke tbh - but if I'm drinking beer I would much rather have something like hobgoblin than one ofthose nasty lager type things [05:10] good man hobgoblin, good man [05:11] try sammy smith, they make good stuff [05:11] their oatmeal stout sells extremely well in my store [05:11] (also from GB) [05:11] never heard of it - but that is entirely possible as we have many small breweries [05:12] it's quite large [05:12] steelsteve: take a look at me page now..... [05:12] you too hobgoblin [05:12] ? [05:13] I didn't look in the first place [05:13] lol [05:13] I think he looks better like that [05:13] xD [05:15] some nasty bugs in lucid have appeared so if anyone has it don't just update - check the lucid forum first [05:15] steelsteve: like that eh? [05:16] is lucid in beta already? [05:17] steelsteve: i believe it is [05:17] intresting [05:18] steelsteve: yesterday (19th) [05:18] but there are a bunch of updates today that hammer nautilus and gnome-panel [05:18] so, the latest update (beta #2) is buggy and back to alpha? [05:18] ok [05:19] I "think" that an install of beta1 is ok - it'supdates from alpha3 that are an issue - but I am still catching up on the forum [05:20] ok [05:21] not going into lucid until it's complete anyways [05:23] steelsteve: it should be fine by then ;) hope so anyway as I have a hardy box I will upgrade then :) [05:23] welcome steelsteve [05:23] ? [05:23] i mean st4aluck [05:23] thought so [05:23] * ZachK__ hates tabfail [05:23] ZachK__ is LAZZY [05:23] :p [05:25] I have a bunch of problems with facebook and other socail sites that I KNOW will hurt my researching later on [05:25] steelsteve must be american with spelling like that - bet you don't spell colour properly either [05:25] (using 9.10 [05:25] ) [05:25] well excuse me [05:25] steelsteve: researching social sites - sounds dodgy ... [05:25] heh [05:26] I'm not researching socail sites [05:26] lol [05:26] I just know some of the things in socail sites and my reserch sites have javascript, and it appears that javascript is making problems with my profiles [05:26] I have no accounts with any of those places - a party I was glad to be late too [05:27] steelsteve: it's Social not socail [05:27] hehehee [05:27] steelsteve: oh I see [05:27] so what ZachK__ [05:27] :bleeh: [05:27] indeed - I always makle spolling irrurs [05:27] I'm just messing w/ you man...you messed with me, I mess with you. :) [05:28] what are you? italian? [05:28] * steelsteve cocks gun [05:28] steelsteve: me? Heck no! [05:28] lol [05:28] sounds very mafia-like [05:29] steelsteve: I'm American.....but I got Irish, Scottish, Polish, Swedish, German, French-Canadian, Cherokee, and Blackfeet... [05:29] ah! irish, that explains it (gans from new york) [05:30] *gangs [05:30] steelsteve: no new york [05:30] it's a reference [05:30] I found it on those refrence sites that I'm having problems with [05:30] :p [05:31] a film with some extremely poor accents [05:31] lol [05:32] I don't think I thought out the RSS thing out, I forgot that thunderbird, though supports RSS feeds, doesn't appear to show them [05:32] Dx [05:33] wait, fixed that [05:35] ok, I'm gonna play brawl for a while (1 hour) before I go to sleep, just because I can [05:35] night guys [06:45] Do somebody has tripwire??? [06:47] do somebody has tripwire installed? [06:48] s4aluck, I don't, but do you need help with it? [06:48] pedro3005: yes, I was trying to make the setting but something went wrong [06:49] pedro3005: if you can help from the beginning? [06:50] s4aluck, hm, researching a bit more, it seems more complex than I though [06:50] s4aluck, try some links [06:50] http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8758 [06:50] http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7-Manual/ref-guide/s1-tripwire-howto.html [06:51] I've already found [06:51] pedro3005: http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/tripwire/ [06:52] pedro3005: Now I made make clean and make distclean [06:52] s4aluck, you are compiling it?! [06:53] pedro3005: I did but I clean it to start again [06:53] s4aluck, why not use apt-get ? [06:54] pedro3005: I have the tarball in /usr/local/src and I am ready to start again [06:54] pedro3005: tell me, pls!!! [06:55] s4aluck, just run "sudo apt-get install tripwire" [06:55] pedro3005: no I must compile it and make the settings [06:56] s4aluck, ah [06:56] wouldn't know then [06:56] sorry [07:10] do somebody know how to edit the setins for tripwire??? [07:10] * seidos doesn't even know what tripwire is [07:11] seidos: http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/tripwire/ [07:12] s4aluck: it is possible that among the few people in this channel then no-one does at the moment - have you tried #ubuntu or even the forums? [07:14] hobgoblin: I asked in #ubuntu but nobody replyes [07:15] I'd have a go on the forum then - I think I saw you asking about this yesterday? could be wrong of course :) [07:16] is it some sort of security app? [07:17] there is #ubuntu-hardened - if it is security then they might be able to help you [07:19] hobgoblin: thanks [07:36] Is anybody here able to remove the voice from my nick? [07:40] oh well, I shall return during office hours :) [08:39] * ZachK_ waves [08:52] nhandler: ping [09:22] espeak -s 140 -v en-westindies "How about a nice game of chess leon?" ; eboard [09:22] hey leoquant [09:23] lol and than eboard tharts up..:) [09:23] hey ZachK [09:23] st [09:24] how are you today [09:24] wrong channel==> team? [09:24] yeah [09:45] welcome lelamal [09:47] ZachK_, hello thanks! [09:49] lelamal: and how are you? [09:50] not bad, what about you? [09:51] ok [11:43] heya ya'lll [12:26] hey all! [12:26] hey jMyles [13:28] looking for some help with iplayer/you tube [13:29] pause/rewind/full screen does not work... any ideas? [13:35]