[00:32] <catchjaga> hello
[00:35] <pedro3005> hi catchjaga
[00:38] <catchjaga> hi pedro3005
[00:38] <catchjaga> I have been having this issue with ubuntu installed on hard drive.  it boots properly and after 2 minutes the screen crashes and shows weird colors. While running from the live cd I used boot parameters acpi=off and nodma, but I coulddnt find an equivalent parameter for nodma for booting from hard drive.
[00:40] <seidos> I've never seen that problem
[00:40]  * seidos wonders what would cause such a thing
[00:41] <seidos> I also have not heard of noacpi or nodma modes.  I've never enabled them off of a cd
[00:41] <pedro3005> catchjaga, what do you mean you can't find?
[00:43] <pedro3005> ide=nodma
[00:43] <pedro3005>     This command disables DMA on all IDE devices and may be useful when having IDE-related problems.
[00:44] <pedro3005> seidos, weird... I was guessing something more related to the graphics card
[00:44] <seidos> I think to enable nodma he would have to add something to the kernel line in grub
[00:44] <pedro3005> seidos, yes
[00:44] <pedro3005> catchjaga, really I can't see how disabling DMA helps... but it does help?
[00:44] <seidos> pedro3005, I'm not certain what specifically he would have to modify in order to get nodma working off his hard drive install
[00:46] <seidos> well I found this "Open the file "drivers/ide/ide.c" in the kernel source directory.  In this file, there's a global variable defined. Look for int noautodma = 0; and set it to 1. That's it."
[00:46] <catchjaga> yup.. while booting from live cd I had same issue, then I tried these 2 boot parameters and desktop was stable and was running for hours without any issues
[00:46] <seidos> that doesn't sound right, kernel source directory?  scratch that
[00:46] <pedro3005> seidos, he'd have to recompile
[00:47] <pedro3005> catchjaga, then why can't you run with those two parameters normally?
[00:48] <seidos> pedro3005, catchjaga said he couldn't find a way to enable nodma on his hard drive install
[00:48] <catchjaga> nodma parameter is not available as grup boot options..
[00:48] <seidos> is that right catchjaga?
[00:48] <catchjaga> sorry thats grub
[00:48] <seidos> catchjaga, I think you need to add it manually
[00:48] <pedro3005> catchjaga, just edit the grub line and add ide=nodma
[00:48] <catchjaga> I tried that too..
[00:49] <catchjaga> from ubuntu 9.10 ide-ndma doesnt work..
[00:49] <catchjaga> I found this info on ubuntu forums
[00:50] <pedro3005> canthus13, what info? that ide=nodma doesn't work?
[00:50] <catchjaga> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1396670
[00:50] <seidos> catchjaga, did you use ide-ndma or ide=nodma?
[00:50] <catchjaga> I tried this as well.. didnt help
[00:51] <canthus13> pedro3005: Eh?
[00:51] <catchjaga> I used ide=nodma
[00:51] <canthus13> Oh.
[00:51] <canthus13> :P
[00:51] <seidos> catchjaga, can you disable dma in the bios?
[00:52] <seidos> sorry canthus13 looks like a tab-complete gone awry
[00:54] <catchjaga_> sorry my net connection keeps dropping
[00:54] <catchjaga_> pedro3005: Im now logged in as catchjaga_
[00:54] <canthus13> seidos: All good.
[00:55] <seidos> catchjaga_, all right.  I was asking if you can change your ide settings in the bios to pio mode 4 instead of dma
[00:55] <pedro3005> sorry
[00:55] <pedro3005> seidos, wait wait
[00:55] <catchjaga_> how to do that?
[00:55] <pedro3005> catchjaga_, add the following parameter to your boot:
[00:55] <pedro3005> libata.dma=3
[00:56] <catchjaga_> pedro3005: ok
[00:57] <pedro3005> seidos, were you looking at some link?
[00:57] <catchjaga_> I think I have tried that before.. didnt help.. anyways trying once again
[00:58] <seidos> pedro3005, I'm currently looking up how to modify a grub entry.  I want to know how to do it
[00:58] <pedro3005> seidos, I think you press e at the grub prompt
[00:58] <seidos> ah
[00:58] <seidos> I was trying to find menu.lst
[00:59] <seidos> so you can't modify it anymore using a text editor?
[00:59] <catchjaga_> its now grub.lst from grub 2
[01:00] <catchjaga_> seidos: no we can edit
[01:00] <pedro3005> seidos, you can, but if you're doing a one-time alteration or test, it's way much wiser to just edit at the grub prompt
[01:00] <seidos> ah, I see
[01:00]  * seidos takes a look at his grub.lst file
[01:00]  * seidos doesn't have a grub.lst file
[01:02] <pedro3005> seidos, neither do I
[01:02] <catchjaga_> pedro3005, libata.dma=3 didnt help
[01:03] <pedro3005> seidos, try grub.cfg
[01:03] <seidos> pedro3005, yeah there it is /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[01:03] <pedro3005> catchjaga_, try libata.dma=0
[01:03] <catchjaga_> pedro3005, yup.. trying that now..
[01:06] <catchjaga_> pedro3005, libata.dma=0 didnt help
[01:08] <catchjaga_> I have tried all options..from 0 to 4
[01:08] <seidos> catchjaga_, can you disable dma mode on your ide controller in your systems bios?
[01:08] <seidos> probably not, but not sure what else to try
[01:09] <seidos> if it worked with the livecd it should be possible to get it working off of the hard drive
[01:09] <catchjaga_> pedro3005, can it be any other issue?
[01:09] <pedro3005> catchjaga_, hm... if disabling dma works
[01:10] <pedro3005> gotta find a way to disable dma! :P
[01:10] <catchjaga_> Im now editing from bios
[01:11] <ibuclaw> what's wrong with his direct memory access ?
[01:12] <pedro3005> ibuclaw, i don't know, but apparently getting rid of it help
[01:12] <pedro3005> s
[01:12] <seidos> ibuclaw, from a livecd no problems when disabling dma, but off the hard drive after 2 minutes the screen prints a bunch of colors
[01:13] <seidos> I suppose it's possible that it's not a dma issue, that the graphical anomaly is a new problem now that he installed ubuntu to the hard drive
[01:14] <ibuclaw> you could try booting with: pci=nomsi,nommcon
[01:15] <ibuclaw> also, what did we learn about modprobe pedro3005 ? :)
[01:15] <pedro3005> ibuclaw, :|
[01:16] <ibuclaw> actually, libata looks to be compiled into the kernel. ;)
[01:16] <ibuclaw> if it were a module:
[01:17] <ibuclaw> 'options libata dma=0' >> /etc/modprobe.d/options
[01:39] <catchjaga> pedro3005, I couldnt find an option in bios to diable dma
[01:40] <pedro3005> catchjaga, try what ibuclaw said
[01:40] <catchjaga> i got dropped in between..
[01:40] <catchjaga> whats that?
[01:40] <pedro3005> you could try booting with: pci=nomsi,nommcon
[01:40] <catchjaga> ok
[01:45] <catchjaga> grub doesnt accept nommcon
[01:45] <catchjaga> pci=nomsi didnt work either
[01:46] <pedro3005> ibuclaw, help?
[02:22] <catchjaga> pedro, I finally found a solution that works.. I edited /etc/default/grub and added the parameters acpi=off noapic nolapic nodma to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT updated the grub and rebooted... now Im not seeing any screen crashes....
[02:23] <pedro3005> catchjaga, great!
[02:23] <catchjaga> pedro thanks for your help
[02:24] <pedro3005> catchjaga, no problem
[02:28] <ZachK__> anybody here need help?
[02:28] <ZachK__> i'm available ifn you do
[02:28] <pedro3005> lol ZachK__ , you always do that
[02:28] <ZachK__> do what pedro3005
[02:29] <pedro3005> ZachK__, ask if someone needs help... just stick around and wait for someone to ask a question
[02:29] <ZachK__> pedro3005: I just feel that it's appropriate to ask sometimes...just so people know that somebody is there
[02:30] <ZachK__> pedro3005: how ya doing man?
[02:30] <pedro3005> ZachK__, pretty good
[02:30] <pedro3005> ZachK__, after all, it's friday!
[02:30] <ZachK__> yup!
[02:30] <ZachK__> off tonight work saturday night off for three days aftah that!!!!
[02:40] <ZachK__> welcome slick666
[02:59] <ZachK__> having connection issues slick666?
[03:00] <slick666> wifi is flakey
[03:00] <pedro3005> ZachK__, you're just dying to help aren't ya? ;) try the UBF
[03:00] <ZachK__> hey Phrea!
[03:00] <Phrea> 'lo
[03:01] <ZachK__> pedro3005: not dying to help....just asking a question........simple conversation
[03:01] <Phrea> my wubi install of beta1 doesnt work :\
[03:01] <pedro3005> ZachK__, i wasn't insulting
[03:01] <Phrea> it stalls
[03:01] <ZachK__> Phrea: i don't mess with beta one's
[03:01] <Phrea> ya, thanks...
[03:01] <Phrea> I just did...
[03:02] <ZachK__> lol
[03:02] <Phrea> the live cd worked fine
[03:02] <ZachK__> sorry
[03:02] <Phrea> I thought a Wubi install meant that it would install like a program...
[03:02] <Phrea> apperantly, that is not the case at all
[03:02] <Phrea> it creates a dualboot
[03:06] <Raidsong> oh yea this is the help room isnt it
[03:08] <pedro3005> hi Raidsong
[03:08] <Raidsong> hello pedro3005
[03:09] <pedro3005> Raidsong, how are you?
[03:10] <Raidsong> im good how about yourself?
[03:10] <pedro3005> Raidsong, good, good
[03:12] <pedro3005> Raidsong, are you banned from jswolfbot?
[03:12] <Raidsong> no i dont think so why?
[03:12] <pedro3005> Raidsong, come over
[03:13] <Raidsong> now im banned
[03:13] <Raidsong> so you wanted me to come over just to be banned?
[03:13] <pedro3005> Raidsong, no
[03:15] <pedro3005> Raidsong, i told you you had to lie
[03:15] <Raidsong> you did?
[03:15] <pedro3005> Raidsong, yes, don't you remember?
[03:16] <Raidsong> not really
[03:16] <Raidsong> good chance you did but i wasnt listening
[03:16] <pedro3005> Raidsong, yeah
[03:17] <Raidsong> well i was banned for ban evasion from what it looks like
[03:18] <Raidsong> although i dont remember the first ban
[03:18] <pedro3005> Raidsong, MJ94 said you were being a saint
[03:19] <Raidsong> i havent been in there in at least a month
[03:19] <Raidsong> perhaps longer
[03:41] <ZachK__> !nickchange ! Steelsteve
[03:41] <Votebot> Factoid nickchange ! steelsteve not found
[03:42] <ZachK__> !nickchange | Steelsteve
[03:42] <Votebot> Steelsteve: Factoid nickchange not found
[04:28] <ZachK__> wb phillw
[04:28] <ZachK__> i mean Phrea
[04:29] <Phrea> thanks
[04:29] <ZachK__> Phrea: so what's up?
[04:29] <Phrea> I just came back from a fresh dualboot install :)
[04:29] <Phrea> well, that's up
[04:29] <ZachK__> oh wow
[04:29] <ZachK__> that sucks....
[04:29] <Phrea> it does... :D
[04:30] <Phrea> Oh well.
[04:30] <Phrea> the other dualboot [with Beta1] broke
[04:30] <Phrea> so I reinstalled Karmic again
[04:31] <ZachK__> Phrea: i've enjoyed karmic
[04:31] <ZachK__> can't wait to see 10.04
[04:31] <Phrea> well, I havent, actually
[04:31] <Phrea> I upgraded to Karmic...
[04:31] <Phrea> that should say enough
[04:31] <Phrea> :)
[04:31] <ZachK__> Phrea: oh....
[04:32] <Phrea> let's say ouch :D
[04:32] <Phrea> wasnt a great success :)
[04:33] <Phrea> but, I'm persistent :D
[04:36] <ZachK__> Phrea: ah....so am i....actually i'm stubborn
[04:37] <Phrea> I WILL get what I want, no matter what
[04:37] <Phrea> OS limitations dont bother me much :D
[04:38] <Phrea> I'll just beat it into submission :P
[04:43] <ZachK__> andrew_46: question
[04:43] <ZachK__> andrew_46: if you have time
[04:43] <andrew_46> ZachK__: You have only just caught me :)
[04:44] <ZachK__> andrew_46: ok.....are you a member of the wiki fg?
[04:44] <andrew_46> ZachK__: I am not even a member of the UBT any more I am afraid
[04:44] <andrew_46> Looks like I need to be de-voiced still
[04:45] <pedro3005> hi andrew_46
[04:45] <andrew_46> pedro3005: hi :)
[04:45] <ZachK__> pedro3005: are you a wiki fg member?
[04:45] <hobgoblin> morning
[04:45] <ZachK__> hey hobgoblin
[04:45] <andrew_46> see you guys.....
[04:45] <pedro3005> ZachK__, i don't think so
[04:46] <ZachK__> pedro3005: would you like to be?
[04:46] <hobgoblin> hi ZachK__
[04:46] <ZachK__> pedro3005: if so pm me and we shall discuss it......
[04:46] <ZachK__> hobgoblin: how is ya?
[04:46] <hobgoblin> tired
[04:46] <hobgoblin> waking up
[04:46] <ZachK__> be right back folks
[04:46] <pedro3005> ZachK__, what's that?
[04:46] <pedro3005> hello hobgoblin
[04:47] <hobgoblin> hi pedro3005
[04:48] <ZachK__> pedro3005: what's what
[04:48] <ZachK__> welcome back steelsteve
[04:48] <steelsteve> hi
[04:48] <steelsteve> sorry about earlier
[04:48] <ZachK__> steelsteve: ??
[04:48] <steelsteve> forgot I was on this channel as well
[04:48] <steelsteve> the name changes
[04:49] <ZachK__> steelsteve: oh it's ok....i've done it......alot.....just a thought....
[04:49] <ZachK__> just wanted to let you know before somebody higher up did
[04:49] <steelsteve> ok
[04:49] <ZachK__> pedro3005: what is what?
[04:49] <steelsteve> thanks
[04:49] <pedro3005> ZachK__, wiki fg
[04:50] <ZachK__> pedro3005: would you like a link?\
[04:50] <pedro3005> ZachK__, ok
[04:50] <ZachK__> pedro3005: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Wiki
[04:50] <steelsteve> anyways, I need to figure out the default path for Thunderbird, installed through the USC
[04:50] <ZachK__> steelsteve: USC?
[04:50] <steelsteve> ubuntu software center
[04:50] <steelsteve> USC
[04:50] <ZachK__> ah...
[04:51] <ZachK__> sorry...memory is a little dull
[04:51] <hobgoblin> steelsteve: it'd be the same as through synaptic I would think
[04:51] <ZachK__> ah default path....
[04:51] <steelsteve> yeah
[04:51] <ZachK__> hobgoblin: i think it is but a little different not sure though...let me do a quick check
[04:51] <steelsteve> I still don't know it if it was through synaptiv
[04:52] <hobgoblin> /usr/bin
[04:53] <steelsteve> thanks hobgoblin
[04:54] <steelsteve> I'm making thunderbird into a RSS manager
[04:54] <hobgoblin> welcome
[04:54] <hobgoblin> steelsteve: whereis whateveryoulookfor :)
[04:54] <steelsteve> much better than opening up firefox and BAM! information overload
[04:54] <ZachK__> pedro3005: still there?
[04:54] <pedro3005> ZachK__, yeah
[04:54] <ZachK__> pedro3005: look at the link i sent u?
[04:55] <pedro3005> ZachK__, yeah actually. but I don't have much time or interest for it, thanks anyway
[04:56] <ZachK__> pedro3005: ok....just checking...I'm trying to come up with a comprehensive list about who's actually in the group, who's not, and who wants to be as I probably will be taking over the lead position here soon
[04:57] <steelsteve> ah!! the guy who was making a factoid of me leading... scary
[04:58] <ZachK__> steelsteve: right....
[04:58] <steelsteve> :p
[04:58] <ZachK__> steelsteve: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZachK_
[04:59] <steelsteve> yeah, your profile pic says it all
[04:59] <steelsteve> scary!!!!
[04:59] <steelsteve> xD
[04:59] <hobgoblin> chokes on tea ...
[05:00] <ZachK__> laugh it up giuys...laugh it up
[05:00] <steelsteve> ok, I'll laugh it up even if I'm not a giuys
[05:00] <steelsteve> sorry hobgoblin
[05:00] <ZachK__> steelsteve: right........
[05:01] <steelsteve> :p
[05:01] <hobgoblin> :)
[05:01] <ZachK__> hobgoblin: you should know me good enough by now.....
[05:01] <hobgoblin> steelsteve: it's 5AM I'm awake early and I am now wide awake lol
[05:02] <steelsteve> lol
[05:02] <hobgoblin> ZachK__: yep - I almost left the channel
[05:02] <ZachK__> and steelsteve that is an older pic....i look alot different
[05:02] <steelsteve> lol
[05:02] <ZachK__> WTF!?!?!!?!?
[05:02] <ZachK__> lol
[05:03] <steelsteve> I don't know, even if I was a helping hand here I still wouldn't put an actual pic of myself online
[05:03] <ZachK__> steelsteve: how do you know that's me?
[05:03] <hobgoblin> ZachK__: you'd almost have to hope not ...
[05:04] <steelsteve> "(01:02:08 AM) ZachK__: and steelsteve that is an older pic....i look alot different"
[05:04] <steelsteve> suggests that you are the person in that picture
[05:04] <ZachK__> hobgoblin: ok enough now.....
[05:04] <hobgoblin> :)
[05:04] <steelsteve> unless you stole HIS identity, trashed it, and don't care who has it now
[05:06] <steelsteve> ok, thanks hobgoblin
[05:06] <steelsteve> btw your name is also a name of a beer from wychwood in britian
[05:07] <ZachK__> steelsteve: wha????
[05:07] <hobgoblin> funnily enough I know that steelsteve :)
[05:07] <steelsteve> lol
[05:08] <hobgoblin> though that is not the nick's origin
[05:08] <steelsteve> I work in a liquor store who are specialists in getting odd and cool stuff
[05:08] <steelsteve> and hobgoblin is a very popular beer
[05:09] <hobgoblin> I'm more of a guiness bloke tbh - but if I'm drinking beer I would much rather have something like hobgoblin than one ofthose nasty lager type things
[05:10] <steelsteve> good man hobgoblin, good man
[05:11] <steelsteve> try sammy smith, they make good stuff
[05:11] <steelsteve> their oatmeal stout sells extremely well in my store
[05:11] <steelsteve> (also from GB)
[05:11] <hobgoblin> never heard of it  - but that is entirely possible as we have many small breweries
[05:12] <steelsteve> it's quite large
[05:12] <ZachK__> steelsteve: take a look at me page now.....
[05:12] <ZachK__> you too hobgoblin
[05:12] <steelsteve> ?
[05:13] <hobgoblin> I didn't look in the first place
[05:13] <steelsteve> lol
[05:13] <steelsteve> I think he looks better like that
[05:13] <steelsteve> xD
[05:15] <hobgoblin> some nasty bugs in lucid have appeared so if anyone has it don't just update - check the lucid forum first
[05:15] <ZachK__> steelsteve: like that eh?
[05:16] <steelsteve> is lucid in beta already?
[05:17] <ZachK__> steelsteve: i believe it is
[05:17] <steelsteve> intresting
[05:18] <hobgoblin> steelsteve: yesterday (19th)
[05:18] <hobgoblin> but there are a bunch of updates today that hammer nautilus and gnome-panel
[05:18] <steelsteve> so, the latest update (beta #2) is buggy and back to alpha?
[05:18] <steelsteve> ok
[05:19] <hobgoblin> I "think" that an install of beta1 is ok - it'supdates from alpha3 that are an issue - but I am still catching up on the forum
[05:20] <steelsteve> ok
[05:21] <steelsteve> not going into lucid until it's complete anyways
[05:23] <hobgoblin> steelsteve: it should be fine by then ;) hope so anyway as I have a hardy box I will upgrade then :)
[05:23] <ZachK__> welcome steelsteve
[05:23] <steelsteve> ?
[05:23] <ZachK__> i mean st4aluck
[05:23] <steelsteve> thought so
[05:23]  * ZachK__ hates tabfail
[05:23] <steelsteve> ZachK__ is LAZZY
[05:23] <steelsteve> :p
[05:25] <steelsteve> I have a bunch of problems with facebook and other socail sites that I KNOW will hurt my researching later on
[05:25] <hobgoblin> steelsteve must be american with spelling like that - bet you don't spell colour properly either
[05:25] <steelsteve> (using 9.10
[05:25] <steelsteve> )
[05:25] <steelsteve> well excuse me
[05:25] <hobgoblin> steelsteve: researching social sites - sounds dodgy ...
[05:25] <hobgoblin> heh
[05:26] <steelsteve> I'm not researching socail sites
[05:26] <hobgoblin> lol
[05:26] <steelsteve> I just know some of the things in socail sites and my reserch sites have javascript, and it appears that javascript is making problems with my profiles
[05:26] <hobgoblin> I have no accounts with any of those places - a party I was glad to be late too
[05:27] <ZachK__> steelsteve: it's Social not socail
[05:27] <ZachK__> hehehee
[05:27] <hobgoblin> steelsteve: oh I see
[05:27] <steelsteve> so what ZachK__
[05:27] <steelsteve> :bleeh:
[05:27] <hobgoblin> indeed - I always makle spolling irrurs
[05:27] <ZachK__> I'm just messing w/ you man...you messed with me, I mess with you. :)
[05:28] <steelsteve> what are you? italian?
[05:28]  * steelsteve cocks gun
[05:28] <ZachK__> steelsteve: me? Heck no!
[05:28] <steelsteve> lol
[05:28] <steelsteve> sounds very mafia-like
[05:29] <ZachK__> steelsteve: I'm American.....but I got Irish, Scottish, Polish, Swedish, German, French-Canadian, Cherokee, and Blackfeet...
[05:29] <steelsteve> ah! irish, that explains it (gans from new york)
[05:30] <steelsteve> *gangs
[05:30] <ZachK__> steelsteve: no new york
[05:30] <steelsteve> it's a reference
[05:30] <steelsteve> I found it on those refrence sites that I'm having problems with
[05:30] <steelsteve> :p
[05:31] <hobgoblin> a film with some extremely poor accents
[05:31] <steelsteve> lol
[05:32] <steelsteve> I don't think I thought out the RSS thing out, I forgot that thunderbird, though supports RSS feeds, doesn't appear to show them
[05:32] <steelsteve> Dx
[05:33] <steelsteve> wait, fixed that
[05:35] <steelsteve> ok, I'm gonna play brawl for a while (1 hour) before I go to sleep, just because I can
[05:35] <steelsteve> night guys
[06:45] <st4aluck> Do somebody has tripwire???
[06:47] <s4aluck> do somebody has tripwire installed?
[06:48] <pedro3005> s4aluck, I don't, but do you need help with it?
[06:48] <s4aluck> pedro3005: yes, I was trying to make the setting but something went wrong
[06:49] <s4aluck> pedro3005: if you can help from the beginning?
[06:50] <pedro3005> s4aluck, hm, researching a bit more, it seems more complex than I though
[06:50] <pedro3005> s4aluck, try some links
[06:50] <pedro3005> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8758
[06:50] <pedro3005> http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7-Manual/ref-guide/s1-tripwire-howto.html
[06:51] <s4aluck> I've already found
[06:51] <s4aluck> pedro3005: http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/tripwire/
[06:52] <s4aluck> pedro3005: Now I made  make clean and make distclean
[06:52] <pedro3005> s4aluck, you are compiling it?!
[06:53] <s4aluck> pedro3005: I did but I clean it to start again
[06:53] <pedro3005> s4aluck, why not use apt-get ?
[06:54] <s4aluck> pedro3005: I have the tarball in /usr/local/src and I am ready to start again
[06:54] <s4aluck> pedro3005: tell me, pls!!!
[06:55] <pedro3005> s4aluck, just run "sudo apt-get install tripwire"
[06:55] <s4aluck> pedro3005: no I must compile it and make the settings
[06:56] <pedro3005> s4aluck, ah
[06:56] <pedro3005> wouldn't know then
[06:56] <pedro3005> sorry
[07:10] <s4aluck> do somebody know how to edit the setins for tripwire???
[07:10]  * seidos doesn't even know what tripwire is
[07:11] <s4aluck> seidos: http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/tripwire/
[07:12] <hobgoblin> s4aluck: it is possible that among the few people in this channel then no-one does at the moment - have you tried #ubuntu or even the forums?
[07:14] <s4aluck> hobgoblin: I asked in #ubuntu but nobody replyes
[07:15] <hobgoblin> I'd have a go on the forum then - I think I saw you asking about this yesterday? could be wrong of course :)
[07:16] <hobgoblin> is it some sort of security app?
[07:17] <hobgoblin> there is #ubuntu-hardened - if it is security then they might be able to help you
[07:19] <s4aluck> hobgoblin: thanks
[07:36] <andrew_46> Is anybody here able to remove the voice from my nick?
[07:40] <andrew_46> oh well, I shall return during office hours :)
[08:39]  * ZachK_ waves
[08:52] <ZachK_> nhandler: ping
[09:22] <leoquant> espeak -s 140 -v en-westindies "How about a nice game of chess leon?" ; eboard
[09:22] <ZachK_> hey leoquant
[09:23] <leoquant> lol and than eboard tharts up..:)
[09:23] <leoquant> hey ZachK
[09:23] <leoquant> st
[09:24] <leoquant> how are you today
[09:24] <leoquant> wrong channel==> team?
[09:24] <ZachK_> yeah
[09:45] <ZachK_> welcome lelamal
[09:47] <lelamal> ZachK_, hello thanks!
[09:49] <ZachK_> lelamal: and how are you?
[09:50] <lelamal> not bad, what about you?
[09:51] <ZachK_> ok
[11:43] <ZachK_> heya ya'lll
[12:26] <thewrathjr> hey all!
[12:26] <thewrathjr> hey jMyles
[13:28] <hcs7dap> looking for some help with iplayer/you tube
[13:29] <hcs7dap> pause/rewind/full screen does not work... any ideas?
[13:35] <hcs7dap> anyone there?
[13:42] <irshad2318> Hi
[13:45] <nhandler> Hello irshad2318 , can I help you with something?
[13:46] <hobgoblin> nhandler: some are in a hurry :)
[13:49] <nhandler> I never understood why people log off of IRC
[13:50] <hobgoblin> me neither
[13:50] <hobgoblin> possibly they think there are people constantly watching and thus are being ignored
[13:51] <hobgoblin> or are just impatient :D
[13:54] <nhandler> Being connected 24/7 has so many pros that it just doesn't make sense to not be connected
[13:55] <hobgoblin> lol
[13:56] <hobgoblin> well I turn this one off at night mostly - but that is only because I am a tight old hippy - the other stays on because I am a lazy old hippy
[14:06] <nhandler> I run one instance of screen+irssi on my laptop at home which is on ~24/7. For the instances where something happens to my computer or I can't connect remotely via ssh, I have irssi running on a remote server that has pretty good uptime
[15:27] <phillw> hobgoblin: that looked like a frantic couple of hours for the devs re: the sticky on lucid tesing, that's some awesome turn-around :-)
[15:28] <joeliasjunior> Hello people, anyone here knows how to recovery a ext3 deleted folder?
[15:34] <phillw> hi joeliasjunior, never tried it, but this link may be of help - you'd need to use something like a live usb boot I figure, as you need to install a programme, and that may over-write the data area you're trying to recover --> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/recover-deleted-files-with-foremostscalpel-in-ubuntu.html
[15:34] <geirha> joeliasjunior: It's not possible to recover files on ext3. You can recover data though, if it can be identified.
[15:36] <joeliasjunior> thanks geirha
[15:37] <joeliasjunior> phillw, thak you, I'll see this article but if really needs a usb boot, it not solve my problem. I need to recovery a especific folder in a remote server
[15:38] <phillw> I'm not sure how it will handle a remote server directory, but if you can mount the drive on your local system, and have the programme run on your local machine, I think it would work okay.
[15:40] <joeliasjunior> Okay phillw. I will read and verify what I can do.
[15:42] <phillw> joeliasjunior: good luck
[15:43] <joeliasjunior> Phillw! Very thank you!! I'll need a lot! :-D
[16:28] <cprofitt> hey -- anyone know why Windows 7 can not connect to an Ubuntu share?
[16:31] <Akos> cprofitt: it asks for a password or it doesn't even see it ? Would be good to know on what Workgroups are the two machines
[16:32] <cprofitt> it sees it...
[16:32] <cprofitt> asked for password
[16:32] <cprofitt> then fails
[16:32] <cprofitt> reports back login failure
[16:32] <cprofitt> I have tried lowering the NTLM requirements... to no avail
[16:33] <Akos> well add a new smb user
[16:33] <cprofitt> the user I was using is in the SMB group...
[16:34] <Akos> from ubuntu to ubuntu works?
[16:34] <cprofitt> have not tried that...
[16:35] <cprofitt> but if I remove the requirement for a password it works
[16:35] <cprofitt> so sharing is working... but authentication is not
[16:35] <Akos> well, maybe you are trying with a wrong password, or i dunno. Try setting up the smb passwd again
[16:35] <Akos> i mean i'm sure you thought of that
[16:36] <cprofitt> is there a sep. smb password or the users password?
[16:36] <Akos> there is a separata one
[16:36] <Akos> samba uses a different password
[16:37] <cprofitt> ah... where is that one defined?
[16:37] <Akos> cprofitt: http://samba.netfirms.com/addusers.htm
[16:38] <cprofitt> I did this by simply right clicking on the folder and telling it to share
[16:39] <Akos> yeah, that won't work, you need to setup a password, even for your user
[16:39] <Akos> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html
[16:39] <Akos> see here too
[16:39] <Akos>  For example to add a SAMBA user to your Ubuntu system with the user name jseinfeld, you would enter this command at the prompt:
[16:39] <Akos> smbpasswd -a jseinfeld
[16:40] <cprofitt> yeah... got that..
[16:40] <cprofitt> and trying...
[16:40] <cprofitt> just odd that Ubuntu would GUI the process and not take care of that
[16:41] <cprofitt> that works though
[16:41] <cprofitt> so the GUI is borked...
[16:41] <cprofitt> how typicall of some of this stuff
[16:41] <cprofitt> thanks Akos
[16:41] <cprofitt> I was driving myself nuts...
[16:41] <Akos> glad i could help cprofitt (:
[16:41] <cprofitt> now... I have to decide if I want him to have a GUI
[16:42] <cprofitt> or make it a server install...
[16:42] <Akos> it should be easier, like samba should take the user login and passwd ...
[16:42] <cprofitt> yeo
[16:42] <cprofitt> yep...
[16:42] <Akos> because this way it's just absurd, that you share, but you still have to do a command. Or it would be good to prompt you to input a password
[16:43] <cprofitt> the GUI would be fine... if it just had a entry field for the passwd
[16:43] <cprofitt> or prompted as you said.
[16:52] <cprofitt> gah
[16:52] <cprofitt> so samba does not differentiate between users either...
[16:54] <cprofitt> I am thinking the GUI implementation is not... ah... sufficient
[16:58] <cprofitt> Akos: got anything on how to limit shares to particular users?
[17:00] <Akos> cprofitt: i didn't dig that deep
[17:01] <Akos> but you can specify options to each folders in the smb.conf file
[17:01] <Akos> yeah, terminal again
[17:02] <cprofitt> I think I got that...
[17:02] <cprofitt> testing now...
[17:02] <cprofitt> it was a few pages back
[17:03] <cprofitt> the GUI did not add anything to the smb.conf
[17:03] <cprofitt> which is ... ah... odd
[17:03] <cprofitt> /etc/samba/smb.conf right?
[17:05] <cprofitt> hmm...
[17:05] <cprofitt> that did not work...
[17:05] <cprofitt> Akos: /etc/samba/smb.conf the right file?
[17:08]  * cprofitt ponders moving to the server install...
[18:14] <asterismo> hi people
[18:14] <asterismo> hi pedro3005, ibuclaw, nigelb, Silver_Fox_
[18:14] <Silver_Fox_> Hello
[18:15] <asterismo> hi duanedesign
[18:15] <asterismo> hi PabloRubianes
[18:16] <PabloRubianes> asterismo: hi... this is not the chat channel :P
[18:16] <asterismo> i will never understand what channel is for... anyway beginners, beginners-team...
[18:16] <asterismo> hahah
[18:19] <asterismo> does anyone experienced issue with automounting usb pendrives?
[18:19] <ibuclaw> asterismo, yes. you just stick it in and go :)
[18:19] <asterismo> after upgraded to lucid that feature did not work again
[18:20] <asterismo> can't mount external WD 500 GB drive
[18:20] <asterismo> neither pendrives
[18:20] <asterismo> some thing must went wrong
[18:20] <ibuclaw> asterismo, as it is a beta, have you tried a fresh install?
[18:21] <asterismo> nope
[18:21] <asterismo> i upgraded 1 week ago
[18:21] <asterismo> and yesterday it upgraded near 100 MB of packages
[18:22] <asterismo> wireless still unrecognized
[18:22] <asterismo> broadcom
[19:06] <Sword2318> Can any1 tel how stop open n close ports in ubuntu 9.10
[19:07] <pedro3005> hello Sword2318
[19:07] <Sword2318> Helo pedro3005
[19:08] <pedro3005> Sword2318, do you have the firewall enabled?
[19:08] <Sword2318> Yes i enabled it
[19:09] <pedro3005> Sword2318, would this help? http://beginlinux.com/blog/2009/10/ubuntu-9-10-ufw-firewall/
[19:09] <Sword2318> Ok thank u
[19:10] <Sword2318> Il just check
[19:10] <Sword2318> Hey nthr 1 can u
[19:38] <cprofitt> Akos: it was much easier setting up a SAMBA server using the server install
[19:38] <cprofitt> the GUI just isn't right
[19:43] <ibuclaw> asterismo, well, as it still in development, I'd probably recommend you installing a fresh copy of the beta (twas released only yesterday).
[19:44] <ibuclaw> asterismo, if that is not an option. try creating a new user account, to see if the problem follows.
[20:06] <asterismo> ibuclaw: i'll try making a new account... thanks
[20:08] <ibuclaw> asterismo, if it follows to the new user, then there was a problem upgrading your system. ;)
[20:09] <ibuclaw> if not, then you have a conflicting old/deprecated configuration in your current account - inherited from karmic.
[20:09] <asterismo> and if it is the case, is thare some command like "sudo configure-again-my-system"
[20:09] <asterismo> or something like that?
[20:11] <Sword2318> How to start n stop x11vnc
[20:11] <ibuclaw> asterismo, nothing that will be easier than downloading / installing a fresh beta
[20:12] <ibuclaw> aptitude reinstall <every package> will break your system.
[20:12] <ibuclaw> Sword2318, whats the client / server ?
[20:13] <Sword2318> Ibuclaw name x11vnc
[20:13] <ibuclaw> oh
[20:14] <Sword2318> Ibuclaw its x11vnc
[20:14] <Sword2318> Sorry am new to ubuntu
[20:14] <Sword2318> Ibuclaw can u help on this
[20:15] <ibuclaw> I've always used vnc-common /meself
[20:17] <Sword2318> Ibuclaw do u knw how to start n stop service in cmd line
[20:17] <ibuclaw> to quote the manpage: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/en/man1/x11vnc.1.html
[20:18] <ibuclaw> on the server, you'd run:
[20:18] <ibuclaw> x11vnc -display :0
[20:18] <Sword2318> Ok thanks lot ,
[20:19] <ibuclaw> ":0" would be the display of the Xserver. The primary one is usually :0, but if you have many Xsessions on one desktop/system, then the number may vary =)
[20:19] <ibuclaw> Sword2318, to connect from client something like:
[20:20] <ibuclaw> vncviewer hostname:0
[20:20] <ibuclaw> should connect you.
[20:20] <Sword2318> K..
[20:20] <ibuclaw> if you are behind a router, it's usually:
[20:21] <ibuclaw> vncviewer hostname.local:0
[20:21] <ibuclaw> if name resolution is working.
[20:21] <ibuclaw> if name resolution isn't working, then you'd specify the IP address instead.
[20:22] <cprofitt> how do I list groups via command line?
[20:22] <asterismo> if something was carried out wrong, there is should be some kind of log that says... error upgrading... or something in certain packages
[20:22] <ibuclaw> groups
[20:22] <asterismo> right?
[20:22] <ibuclaw> cprofitt, ^^
[20:22] <asterismo> is there any kind of log after distupgrading?
[20:22] <cprofitt> hmm...
[20:22] <cprofitt> appears to only list 'my groups'
[20:23] <ibuclaw> cprofitt, cut -f1 -d: /etc/group  ??
[20:24] <cprofitt> that works...
[20:24] <ibuclaw> pipe it to more / less ... if you don't have scrollback
[20:24] <cprofitt> farting around with samba server
[20:24] <ibuclaw> cprofitt, though not sure of any easy way to list them
[20:25] <asterismo> anyway
[20:25] <ibuclaw> you could probably alias that to lsgroup
[20:26] <asterismo> does anybody know any how to in compiling a custom kernel?
[20:26] <ibuclaw> o/
[20:26] <ibuclaw> and no - a custom kernel won't speed up your system
[20:27] <ibuclaw> and if it does, you won't notice
[20:43] <freezeloud_> hi, please is possible if i logged few times to irc from empathy that it blocks to get my nick when i'am connecting from another client (smuxi)?
[20:44] <pedro3005> freezeloud_, is your nick registered?
[20:46] <freezeloud_> don't think so, at least i did not do it, i'am irc newbie...
[20:50] <pleia2> freezeloud_: according to freenode, you are still logged on as freezeloud (without the underscore) as well
[20:50] <pleia2> 13:50:47 [freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from freezeloud: Smuxi 0.7.1.0 - running on Unix 32-bit
[20:51] <pleia2> were you trying out other irc clients too?
[20:52] <pleia2> oh, actually, that must be empathy
[20:52] <cprofitt> I think I want to shoot the people who wrote the samba documentation
[20:52] <pleia2> freezeloud_: look around empathy, you'll probably find that you're connected twice :)
[20:52] <cprofitt> or maybe just make them use Apple computers
[20:52] <pleia2> cprofitt: heh, yeah, it's not awesome
[20:53] <cprofitt> it sucks beyond all belief
[20:53] <Hellow> cprofitt: Making them use Apple computers is worse than being shot.
[20:53] <cprofitt> and is out of date from what I can tell
[20:53] <cprofitt> Hellow: I know
[20:53] <freezeloud_> pleia2: yes, i tried empathy first and now i'm connected on smuxi
[20:53] <pleia2> freezeloud_: oh I see
[20:53] <ibuclaw> freezeloud_, then disconnect on empathy?
[20:53] <pleia2> freezeloud_: so it looks like you connected twice with smuxi
[20:54] <ibuclaw> or what pleia2 said ;)
[20:54] <Hellow> Yes, what pleia2 said, since both freezeloud_ and freezeloud are responding with the same CTCP version reply.
[20:54]  * pleia2 nods
[20:54] <freezeloud_> on empathy i disable account so it is probably both smuxi
[20:54] <pleia2> yep
[20:54] <Hellow> >freezeloud< CTCP VERSION
[20:54] <Hellow> -freezeloud- VERSION Smuxi 0.7.1.0 - running on Unix 32-bit
[20:54] <Hellow> >freezeloud_< CTCP VERSION
[20:54] <Hellow> -freezeloud_- VERSION Smuxi 0.7.1.0 - running on Unix 32-bit
[20:55] <freezeloud_> and on smuxi i am connected on two servers what might be that issue? irc.freenode.net and irc.ubuntu.com
[20:55] <pleia2> yes, that's the issue
[20:55] <Hellow> freezeloud_: irc.ubuntu.com is just a redirect to irc.freenode.net
[20:55] <pleia2> irc.freenode.net and irc.ubuntu.com are the same server :)
[20:56] <freezeloud_> :D ouch i'm sorry, that's good to know :)
[20:57] <pleia2> no problem, glad we could get to the bottom of it
[20:57] <freezeloud_> thank you very much :)
[20:58] <freezeloud_> to all of you :)
[20:58] <Hellow> ...and why is this channel +s?
[20:58] <pleia2> Hellow: good question
[20:58] <pedro3005> it's obvious
[20:59] <pedro3005> we wouldn't want beginners to come over here and bother us
[20:59] <pleia2> pedro3005: haha :)
[20:59] <pedro3005> :X
[20:59] <pleia2> wb freezeloud
[20:59] <freezeloud> thanks pleia2 :)
[21:00] <freezeloud> will try to don't bother you any soon :D
[21:00] <pedro3005> freezeloud, aww :P just kidding
[21:01] <pedro3005> you can bother
[21:03] <freezeloud> pedro3005: i hoped so :) but anyway try to won't
[21:10] <cprofitt> gah
[21:11] <cprofitt> anyone know why the default install of 9.10 Samba server does not show on a Windows computer when browsing the network?
[21:16] <Hellow> brb, going to reboot for updates installed.
[21:21] <Hellow> Nothing's dead, so apparently it worked right.
[21:30] <ibuclaw> cprofitt, need to be on the same workgroup?
[21:30] <cprofitt> they are...
[21:30] <cprofitt> what is odd... is the workstation w/ samba installed
[21:31] <cprofitt> was visible
[21:31] <cprofitt> but the home directories were borked
[21:31] <cprofitt> the server is not visible
[21:31] <cprofitt> but the home directories work
[21:32] <ibuclaw> I honestly can't remember what I did last time I setup samba to transfer files to a friends computer
[21:32] <cprofitt> I will muddle throught it
[21:32] <cprofitt> but the Ubuntu docs are crap from what I can tell
[21:32] <ibuclaw> I remember fiddling for a minute or two, then got it to work ... but couldn't connect
[21:32] <cprofitt> they seem to mix samba client with samba server
[21:32] <ibuclaw> then realised my firewall was not setup :{
[22:37] <hcs7dap> ubuntu tweak tells me that it can only run on 7.04 or 7.10... whats happening?
[22:39] <hcs7dap> bgs100: can you help me with ubuntu tweak?
[22:39] <bgs100> Maybe
[22:39]  * bgs100 looks at Ubuntu Tweak
[22:40] <hcs7dap> bgs100: tweak tells me that it can only run on 7.04 or 7.10... whats happening?
[22:40] <hcs7dap> bgs100: it tells me that it can only work on 7.04 or 7.10
[22:40] <bgs100> Okay
[22:41] <hcs7dap> bgs100: i have 9.10... is there an alternative?
[22:41] <bgs100> One sec
[22:41] <bgs100> hcs7dap, Where did you download it?
[22:42] <hcs7dap> bgs100: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-tweak-ubuntu.html
[22:43] <bgs100> hcs7dap, That article is from 2007, and probably links to an old version. The official site is here: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[22:43] <hcs7dap> bgs100: ah silly me... I'll give it a go...
[22:44] <bgs100> hcs7dap, :) I tried it, and it seems to work
[22:44] <hcs7dap> bgs100: cheers
[22:45] <bgs100> hcs7dap, You're welcome :)
[22:57] <cprofitt> Akos:
[22:58] <cprofitt> you there?
[22:59] <cprofitt> any samba experts in the channel?
[23:06] <Akos> cprofitt: i'm here now, just got back from the Cinema
[23:07] <cprofitt> cool...
[23:07] <Akos> anything I can help with? (:
[23:07] <cprofitt> this is what fixed the issues with the samba server
[23:07] <cprofitt> [<username>] path = /home/<usename> browseable = yes writeable = yes guest ok = no directory mask = 0700 create mask = 0700 valid users = <username>
[23:07] <cprofitt> I had to add that for each user...
[23:07] <cprofitt> then it allowed them to be browseable
[23:08] <cprofitt> and only allowed one user to use them
[23:08] <cprofitt> I also had to add an entry for netbios name
[23:08] <Akos> oh, so there is a lot to samba configuration
[23:08] <cprofitt> yeah...
[23:08] <cprofitt> and the documentation is not good...
[23:08] <Akos> why isn'T there a GUI for it?
[23:08] <cprofitt> well... I got it working on a server install
[23:08] <cprofitt> GUI-less
[23:09] <Akos> well yeah, config files, but on a desktop, this should be done from the preferences I guess ...
[23:09] <Akos> hmm, i found this: http://us4.samba.org/samba/GUI/
[23:09] <cprofitt> I agree on a desktop
[23:09] <cprofitt> but on the desktop it was browseable
[23:09] <cprofitt> despite not being in the smb.conf
[23:10] <cprofitt> and the folders were not created properly either
[23:10] <cprofitt> nor was the smb password set
[23:10] <Akos> hmm i see
[23:11] <Akos> i never really dug deep in to this, just used it at home across 4 computers
[23:11] <cprofitt> yeah
[23:11] <cprofitt> I am setting it up for some windows users
[23:11] <cprofitt> so I had to have certain things
[23:11] <Akos> fair enough
[23:12] <Akos> please excuse me, i shall go to bed (:
[23:12] <Akos> good night team
[23:12] <cprofitt> yeah... not optimal... but it will work for them
[23:12] <cprofitt> night Akos
[23:27] <Cogito1729> Hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu using a USB drive only, but the USB drive is not being recognized on boot. Could use a hint or two.
[23:31] <Cogito1729> Hi, anyone around?
[23:32] <bodhizazen> yes
[23:32] <Cogito1729> Awesome!
[23:32] <Cogito1729> Can you point me in the right direction with my USB installation?
[23:32] <bodhizazen> probably, what you want ?
[23:32] <Cogito1729> I'm installing Ubuntu on a ps3, using a USB drive only, but the USB drive is not being recognized on boot.
[23:33] <Cogito1729> I'm pretty sure I've incorrectly prepared the USB drive from the ISO
[23:33] <stlsaint> Cogito1729: what distro are you using?
[23:34] <Cogito1729> I'm using Xubuntu 9.10
[23:34] <stlsaint> Cogito1729: meh, thats not really gonna fly from what i know
[23:34] <bodhizazen> I use unetbootin
[23:35] <stlsaint> Cogito1729: there are other distros made that are more suitable with the ps3
[23:35] <stlsaint> Cogito1729: IE: Yellow linux if i recall correctly
[23:35] <Cogito1729> stlsaint: Which one? I got the 9.10 link from the ps ubuntu website itself. http://psubuntu.com/wiki/UbuntuVersions
[23:35] <Cogito1729> stlsaint: You recommend Yellowdog instead of ubuntu?
[23:37] <Cogito1729> bodhizazen: Should I prepare the USB drive with unetbootin?
[23:37] <stlsaint> yes
[23:38] <Cogito1729> Okay, so I'll try YDL on ps3 using unetbootin to prepare the USB drive.
[23:39] <stlsaint> Cogito1729: or possible puppy linux will be even better suited over ubuntu
[23:46] <Cogito1729> stlsaint: I have only basic familiarity with Linux, and puppy seems like it has a very small community. I feel like I'd be better off with YDL.
[23:47] <Cogito1729> Although puppy is supposedly so lightweight that it is tempting.
[23:53] <phillw> Cogito1729: there has been a lively ;-) debate over at http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/236273-38-best-linux-distro
[23:53] <Cogito1729> Phillw: thanks, reading that now!
[23:53] <phillw> starts old, gets real new :-)
[23:55] <bodhizazen> Slitaz FTW =)
[23:55] <cprofitt> hey bodhizazen
[23:55] <bodhizazen> 'lo cprofitt
[23:56] <cprofitt> just watched the Kansas game...
[23:56] <cprofitt> they got beat...
[23:56] <cprofitt> woot!!
[23:56] <bodhizazen> here comes spam ...
[23:56] <bodhizazen> http://bodhizazen.fivebean.net/customdist.iso
[23:56] <cprofitt> YDL?
[23:56] <bodhizazen> that is the Zenix 10.05 Alpha, very very rough
[23:57] <cprofitt> Zenix is yours bodhizazen ?
[23:57] <bodhizazen> yes
[23:58] <cprofitt> cool...
[23:58] <bodhizazen> http://zenix-os.net/index.php?nav=features
[23:58] <cprofitt> 10.05 already...
[23:58] <bodhizazen> but I am NOT the only one developing it
[23:58] <bodhizazen> well, we are going to Ubuntu +1 , it is difficult to develop when Ubuntu is in Alpha
[23:58] <cprofitt> nice -- how many others?
[23:59] <bodhizazen> Not many
[23:59] <bodhizazen> https://launchpad.net/~zenix-sangha
[23:59] <bodhizazen> https://launchpad.net/~zenix-shravaka