[00:27] <avihay> well, thanks to VLC I can now capture video again
[00:28] <avihay> now I'm wondering if I should install mythTV again. version .22 and me are old enemies now, only without the mutual respect
[00:31] <avihay> I have a number of satellite boxes with serial, and even posibly USB connections. will myth automagically be able to get the EPG and switch channles for me? do I just connect the cable and select it as remote? I'm used to working with a tuner so...
[00:45] <McNever> http://pastebin.com/p4DKsrHM
[00:45] <McNever> started having an issue with mythvideo
[00:46] <McNever> mythfrontend appears to lock up when i go into videos or video manager
[00:48] <McNever> last line in the frontend log looks like its scanning the '/' not sure if thats normal or its the issue...
[00:48] <McNever> but i've removed the package and reinstalled with no change
[00:48] <McNever> through the mythconfig and with apt-get...
[00:48] <McNever> any input would be great... thanks in advance
[01:41] <dewman> is there a list of fixes for the latest version of .22 trunk? (23766)
[04:01] <McNever> anybody have any input on the following
[04:01] <McNever> Mar 19 23:05:59 myth-frontend1 kernel: [ 4580.549296] mythfrontend.re[2044]: segfault at 25 ip 05945807 sp bfc4aa90 error 6 in libmythvideo.so[5894000+10b000]
[04:01] <McNever> mythvideo is hanging whenever i go to video manager
[04:21] <McNever> ok it looks like that error msg was from earlier when i removed the group on the BE
[04:21] <McNever> it looks like the last line in the frontend log is
[04:21] <McNever> ScanVideoDirectory Scanning (/)
[04:21] <McNever> which looks like its scanning the root for video?... i dont see that in other logs posted
[04:22] <McNever> and i'm pretty sure i dont have that configured anywhere...
[15:06] <dan1> hey anyone installed mythbuntu on a headless box before? ubuntu server to be a little more precise
[15:07] <superm1> dan1, should be doable, but you need X for mythtv-setup - so you'll probably  need to X forward or run vnc
[15:08] <dan1> yeah that's kinda my Q - i have installed mythbuntu-control-centre and ssh -X in. but when I run mythbuntu-control-centre I get "ImportError: No module named xorgconfig". Do you know what package I need?
[15:09] <superm1> ooh sounds like we're missing a dependency eh?
[15:09] <superm1> is python-xkit installed?
[15:09] <superm1> and mythbuntu-common?
[15:09] <dan1> just looking...
[15:10] <dan1> gravelld@bordeaux:~$ sudo apt-get install python-xkit
[15:10] <dan1> Reading package lists... Done
[15:10] <dan1> Building dependency tree
[15:10] <dan1> Reading state information... Done
[15:10] <dan1> E: Couldn't find package python-xkit
[15:10] <dan1> mythbuntu-common is there
[15:20] <dan1> this is hardy heron btw
[15:20] <dan1> don't know if python-xkit is in hardy
[15:31] <superm1> hardy...
[15:31] <dan1> eh huh
[15:31] <superm1> things have changed significantly since then
[15:32] <dan1> ok, would it be a LOT better to upgrade then? I say a LOT because there's a lot of other things running on this machine
[15:32] <dan1> vmware for instance, which is a pain to upgrade
[15:32] <superm1> you won't have "current" builds of mythtv available for hardy (we only do autobuilds of 0.23 for karmic and lucid) and autobuilds of 0.22 for interepid, jaunty, karmic
[15:32] <dan1> yeah that's ok
[15:32] <superm1> so what kind of frontend were you plannin on using?
[15:33] <dan1> diskless, got an epia box under the tv that used to be a slave backend
[15:33] <superm1> Ah.
[15:34] <superm1> on hardy i think the package that provided that was guidance-backends
[15:34] <dan1> remind me what version of myth is in the hardy build?
[15:34] <dan1> ok thanks
[15:34] <superm1> python-xkit was added during intrepid or so
[15:34] <superm1> http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv
[15:34] <Zinn> [launchpad.net] “mythtv” package : Ubuntu
[15:34] <superm1> you can see the ones on the archive for all versions of ubuntu there
[15:35] <dan1> oh of course, thanks
[15:35] <superm1> autobuilds aren't though
[15:35] <dan1> ok will need to upgrade eventually again for vdpau but that's for the future
[15:36] <dan1> and i suppose everyone upgrades eventually ;)
[15:37] <superm1> well hopefully you can go right from hardy -> lucid
[15:37] <dan1> wahey - guidance-backends worked
[15:38] <dan1> now i just need to blast a few holes in some walls to run the cables
[15:40] <McNever> hey guys... i'm having some problems with mythvideo... it looks like when i open video manager its scanning '/' in addition to the video group and the dir i have configured in the setup
[15:41] <McNever> mythfrontend freezes and i have to kill the process and restart it
[15:41] <superm1> McNever, you're on 0.23?
[15:41] <McNever> .22
[15:42] <superm1> k.. so you sure you don't have extra video groups set in the backend you forgot about?
[15:42] <superm1> and what group did you set in the frontend ?
[15:42] <superm1> note: you dont need both generally, one or the other is usually fine
[15:43] <McNever> actually i'd be perfectly happy turning the group off... didnt even know it was on until i looked at the log... but i didnt see anywhere in the frontend to turn it off
[15:43] <McNever> and googling it didnt produce what i expected
[15:44] <superm1> in the frontend just go set the box to an empty value
[15:44] <superm1> and use the backend one
[15:44] <superm1> that one's more intelligent anyway
[15:45] <McNever> yeah its stops scanning that location... but it scans the group and '/'
[15:47] <McNever> i just went and checked again... i only have one video storage group configured
[15:47] <McNever> this is the last line in frontend log
[15:48] <McNever> MythVideo::ScanVideoDirectory Scanning (/)
[15:48] <superm1> i'm really at a loss then, i've never heard of that happening before
[15:48] <superm1> you might consider asking in #mythtv-users if no one in here perks up with ideas
[15:49] <McNever> yeah... its a pretty fresh install... thinking about just killen it and reinstalling
[15:51] <McNever> i hope at least that its something with the frontend... i assume since its scanning a local dir its not coming from the backend
[15:52] <superm1> you might be able to get away with setting a new hostname (or at least local hostname) for new settings if they are separate boxes and that's true
[15:52] <superm1> otherwise a reinstall with the same hostname might bring it back
[15:52] <superm1> since those settings are stored in the SQL db on the backend
[15:53] <McNever> really... that exaplains a lot actually...
[15:54] <McNever> so if reinstalled and used the same hostname the backend pushes some config down to it?
[15:54] <superm1> Yup
[15:56] <McNever> nice...
[15:56] <McNever> thanks superm1
[16:00] <mrand> dan1: I basically run headless, but with NX rather than SSH + X.
[16:00] <mrand> And not on hardy ;-)
[16:11] <McNever> removed mythvideo and mythfrontend
[16:11] <McNever> changed hostname
[16:11] <McNever> reinstalled mythfrontend and mythvideo
[16:12] <McNever> seems to works fine now
[16:28] <superm1> changing the hostname is probably all you needed to do..
[16:28] <superm1> but at least you got it working :)
[16:40] <dewman> hey everyone..... my cable company does something rather weird, they actually broadcast on all three qams...Has anyone heard of this? I am having a heck of a time getting the channels to line up correctly because of this.
[16:41] <mrand> I've never heard of the term "all three qams"... what does that mean?
[16:41] <dewman> qam64 qam128 and qam256
[16:42] <dewman> mrand, does that make sense?
[16:42] <mrand> yes.  sorry, I'd forgotten that.
[16:45] <dewman> i'm just not sure if its easier to try to piece together a channels.conf file and import it or try to scan all three qams and then try to remapp everything. I have been fighting with this for weeks.
[16:46] <mrand> dewman: attendance on this channel is light... you'd get more responses from the mythbuntu forums, #mythtv-users, or the mythtv mailing list.
[16:47] <dewman> yeah, I figured that. the devs in mythtv-users can be a little sarcastic at times....but i will ask over there...
[16:48] <mrand> dewman: yeah, I understand.
[16:49] <dewman> mrand, thanks... =)
[20:56] <realubot> I have problem getting a streamin using MythTV frontend to work without lagging. I've got a 2 Mbit/s broadband connection. What may be the problem?
[20:56] <tgm4883> realubot, what are you using for streaming?
[20:56] <realubot> It also takes a long time to startup the frontend and it's taking some time getting into the media library and the playback settings.
[20:57] <realubot> tgm4883: Why not?
[20:57] <tgm4883> ?
[20:57] <tgm4883> why not what?
[20:57] <realubot> tgm4883: I want to watch TV using my desktop computer and MythTV as frontend at my laptop. What's the problem?
[20:58] <tgm4883> What kind of network connection?
[20:58] <realubot> tgm4883: Sorry, I didn't read your question carefully.
[20:58] <realubot> tgm4883: I try to stream using the Internet.
[20:59] <tgm4883> your internet connection isn't fast enough
[21:00] <realubot> tgm4883: Ok, is it possible to somehow buffer video so that I can watch after a while. I mean, I almost can watch TV, it's just lagging like for a second at some times.
[21:00] <realubot> tgm4883: Maybe it will be fast enough using some kind of buffer functionaity.
[21:00] <tgm4883> not with the frontend. You could activate flash streaming through mythweb, but it's experimental
[21:01] <superm1> i dont think it's currently designed to work well over a non-LAN connection
[21:01] <realubot> tgm4883: Well, I try to watch recorded playsings. Isn't they either possible to buffer?
[21:01] <realubot> superm1: I know, but it would be great if it would work that way.
[21:02] <superm1> realubot, i suspect it will require a bit of a dedicated effort to identify particular bottlenecks in the protocol and buffering requirements then
[21:02] <superm1> which probably isn't in the priorities of the development team.  i'm sure if you'd like to help analyze it and improve it, they'd be willing to accept patches though
[21:03] <realubot> superm1: Well, I don't have time or knowledge of doinf that unfortunately.
[21:03] <realubot> *doing