[00:17] <Laney> bah, someone gave ghc6 back on armel
[00:17] <Laney> it *will* *not* *finish*
[00:18] <wgrant> Laney: The one that has been building for 10 days now?
[00:18] <Laney> yes
[00:18] <wgrant> Heh.
[00:19] <wgrant> P-a-s it out, if it's really not going to finish?
[00:19] <Laney> I thought that had to be synced with Debian
[00:19] <Laney> plus I hold out hope of getting it to work in a future revision
[00:19] <wgrant> Hmm.
[00:19] <Laney> people just shouldn't mash the button when they don't know what they're doing
[00:20] <wgrant> Well, mass-givebacks are done occasionally.
[00:21] <geser> in what build state gets ghc6 on armel when you let the build kill because it got stuck?
[00:21] <Laney> ftbfs
[00:21] <wgrant> The normal solution is so mark the build Superseded instead.
[00:21] <wgrant> s/so/to/
[00:22] <wgrant> That way it can't be retried.
[00:22] <wgrant> It's a lie, but an effective one.
[00:22] <Laney> in Debian we have added a depwait on ghc6 >> -12
[00:22] <Laney> which is sort of the same thing
[00:24] <wgrant> Do you know how dead the buildd gets?
[00:25] <wgrant> Does the build just hang, or does the slave actually stop responding?
[00:25] <Laney> I guess nothing bad happens, or else I would have been shot
[00:25] <Laney> (but I don't know)
[00:26] <wgrant> Heh.
[00:29] <Laney> I'm off to bed. Feel free to have that build killed, and stop it happening again.
[00:29] <Laney> seeya
[01:36] <krisives> I made a PPA a while ago for Rhythmbox that just changed some debian/rules (to add a build flag) and the new updates for 10.4 beta updated RB taking away my version. What should I do?
[03:34] <lamont> wgrant: yes, that was a db query.  and I've added a ticket to do that as a matter of monitoring
[03:34] <lamont> Laney: will it seriously not finish?
[03:36] <lamont> Laney: fwiw, I gave it back because there was some question whether it would finish or not, figured it wouldn't tie things up too much - armel has enough buildds to keep up pretty well
[03:36] <persia> lamont: It might finish.  It might not.  It may take a couple weeks.
[03:36] <persia> lamont: If you're looking, you might want to check the likewise-open and gedit builds on armel.  THey seem to be hung in a very odd place.
[03:36] <lamont> persia: yeah - I was figuring we'd give it until (a) release, or (b) when I kill^Wretire that bit of hardware in a bit
[03:37] <persia> By "retire" you mean "put into a shredder", right?
[03:37] <lamont> persia: pretty much...  nice shiny new hardware for me to play with next week
[03:37] <persia> Wonderful.
[03:44] <lamont> meh.  channel slew.  sorry about that
[05:01]  * bikeboy rips hair out at comments - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/537262?comments=all
[05:02] <bikeboy> need to be able to mark comments as 'general discussion' and 'bug fixing' or something
[05:02] <bikeboy> all the general discussion goes off the main thread
[05:03] <bikeboy> like how a wiki has the actual article, and the talk page associated with said article
[05:03] <bikeboy> to make comments as actually relevant, one would need a certain level of bug fixing karma
[05:04] <bikeboy> no comments would ever be actually deleted, in the interests of transparency
[05:04] <bikeboy>  /end rant
[10:55] <leoquant> using launchpad, looking at related wiki's,every latest contribution to a wiki gives the username contributor, and scrolling over this name shows imho unnec. personal information as an ip-adres and a launchpad hpps linkage. is the normal?
[10:56] <leoquant> the=this
[14:02] <lfaraone> I forget, is there a tool that automates / trivializes making releases on launchpad from the command line? I think I remember seeing something like this recently...
[14:38] <jml> lfaraone, maybe https://help.launchpad.net/Clients has something
[14:58] <lifeless> lfaraone: in ubuntu-dev-tools you can use lp-project-upload
[14:58] <lifeless> lfaraone: or, in lp:lptools, you can use lp-milestones, though it isn't [yet] a complete replacement for lp-project-upload
[15:14] <Laney> lamont: (about ghc6) one of the previous builds went on for ~2 weeks building the same module, so I doubt it
[15:14] <Laney> but it's your hardware, leave it as long as you like ;)
[15:14] <lamont> Laney: heh
[15:15] <lamont> arm is about to have enough builders that I could leave jaboticaba at the task for the year without crying too much. (but I won't)
[15:15] <Laney> dares you
[15:21] <persia> lamont: You may as well let it run for a while if you don't need the rack space right away.  I know there are local test builds happening, but no result has yet been reported anywhere I've seen (as to whether it ever terminates)
[15:21] <lamont> heh
[15:21] <persia> lamont: That said, if you have the ability to find out whether it's actually doing anything or just sitting there, that would be handy :)
[15:22] <lamont> it's more a case of "if I don't need the USB drive"
[15:22] <lamont> and I think I might not
[15:22] <Laney> a test might be to revert the compiler flags to what was used with 6.10.4 and see if they work
[15:26] <persia> That needs PPAs, or lots more local builds.  Rebuilding the compiler suite can take a while ...
[15:32] <Laney> I asked for an armel ppa, but never got an answer
[15:33] <persia> From what I hear, they are awkward and special now, pending the development of a good hypervisor for armel.
[15:37] <dnjl> hi, why i'm not allowed to access the source-site: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-application
[15:37] <dnjl> It not oss or what??
[15:38] <persia> dnjl: There's a bug.  Log out, and you magically get permission to see it.
[15:39] <dnjl> ui - its a funny bug... :P
[15:41] <dnjl> well, if u suffix /+changelog or /VERSION this will work without logout
[15:48] <persia> I believe it's only the list of PPA versions which causes issues.
[15:48] <persia> And only for some PPAs.
[17:41] <sheldon>  hi, i cannot remove some packages from my personal ppa. I recevie this error  Unexpected form data Launchpad doesn't understand the form data submitted in this request.
[22:39] <ovnicraft> hi folks, i am trying to fork a project in lp, but i dont find anything in UI for that, how i can do it?
[22:40] <beuno> ovnicraft, you just push the branch up to a location
[22:40] <beuno> (a new location)
[22:40] <ovnicraft> beuno, but i need clone in my pc first, i want to does it without it
[22:41] <wgrant> ovnicraft: But to make changes you need to pull it down locally anyway.
[22:43] <ovnicraft> wgrant, yes its implicit but is better as user experience
[22:44] <wgrant> ovnicraft: Why is it better? bzr get lp:fooproject; hack hack hack; bzr ci; bzr push lp:~wgrant/fooproject/barfeature
[22:44] <wgrant> Adding the web UI functionality would be: click click click click click; bzr get lp:~wgrant/fooproject/barfeature; hack hack hack; bzr ci; bzr push
[22:45] <ovnicraft> click, get, hack push
[22:45] <wgrant> As opposed to get, hack, push without the web UI.