[00:05] <godbyk> crap.  I think the auto-update overwrote the changes I was working on.
[00:06] <godbyk> Today I'm totally kicking myself for setting that up! :)
[00:06] <humphreybc> lol
[00:06] <humphreybc> what do you think about this as the main text on the front page
[00:07] <humphreybc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/398529/
[00:10] <godbyk> sounds too technical-oriented for the audience we're after.
[00:10] <humphreybc> and this is the feature text: http://paste.ubuntu.com/398530/
[00:10] <humphreybc> oh yeah?
[00:10] <humphreybc> hm
[00:10] <godbyk> My mom isn't going to care about the license, the page count, or any of that.
[00:10] <godbyk> Talk about what the manual will help the user do.
[00:11] <godbyk> No one cares that it's in 534 languages.. they only care that it's in their own language.
[00:11] <godbyk> They don't care about the license.
[00:11] <godbyk> Tell them what they'll be able to do after they've read the manual.
[00:11] <godbyk> How will it help them?
[00:12] <humphreybc> "The manual will help you become familiar with everyday
[00:12] <humphreybc> tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and
[00:12] <humphreybc> scanning documents."
[00:14] <humphreybc> "With an emphasis on easy to follow
[00:14] <humphreybc> instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience."
[00:15] <humphreybc> how's that?
[00:16] <humphreybc> I'm going to keep the bit about the license because I think that's important
[00:16] <godbyk> what does this mean?
[00:16] <godbyk> bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/main/.bzr/branch/lock): Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()
[00:16] <humphreybc> lol no idea
[00:17] <humphreybc> google it
[00:17] <humphreybc> "http does not support mkdir()"
[00:17] <humphreybc> hmm
[00:20] <Red_HamsterX> "It is written for the community, by the community." as an alternative to using scary terms like "open source" and "license"?
[00:23] <godbyk> humphreybc: http://test.ubuntu-manual.org/ better?
[00:24] <godbyk> I'm going to move daker's stuff over to the live site now.
[00:24] <humphreybc> Red_HamsterX: Hmm. I really really want to emphasize the open source bit, because it's important that people know about open source
[00:24] <godbyk> so uh.. no one should screw up the things in website/daker (or move them).  :-)
[00:24] <godbyk> humphreybc: emphasize it at the right moment, though.
[00:24] <humphreybc> yeah that's good
[00:25] <Red_HamsterX> I agree that it's important, but it should be mentioned once they're comfortable.
[00:25] <godbyk> when they're visiting your website, looking for help and answers, they don't care at all about open source and it'll just get in their way.
[00:25] <godbyk> you really don't have to beat people over the head with things, they'll generally pick up on it over time.
[00:26] <godbyk> we explain open source in the manual anyway, don't we?
[00:26] <Red_HamsterX> And disambiguate it from Free software to keep Stallman happy?
[00:26] <Red_HamsterX> =P
[00:37] <godbyk> WE'LL DO IT LIVE!  http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[00:41] <Red_HamsterX> ONOZ!
[00:46] <humphreybc> well, that was weird
[00:46]  * humphreybc is beginning to reconsider whether running photoshop under Wine is really worth it when it destroys your compuer
[00:47] <humphreybc> godbyk, heh, i knew all that stuff already
[00:47] <humphreybc> tried restarted X and stuff
[00:47] <humphreybc> i just did another reboot and it worked okay
[00:47] <humphreybc> be back in a sec
[00:47] <godbyk> weird
[01:16] <godbyk> Okay, that does it. I'm going to read a fiction book.
[01:16] <godbyk> I fixed the title for the manual.
[01:17] <godbyk> In the process of setting up the new site, I whacked the builds dir and lost the css and icons and stuff.  whatever
[01:17] <godbyk> will fix it later
[01:17] <godbyk> new builds things are here: http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/
[01:17] <godbyk> I also set up screenshots.ubuntu-maunal.org, but will have to chat with the quickshot guys later to put the code there.
[01:19] <humphreybc> awesome
[01:19] <humphreybc> is the branch broken?
[01:19] <humphreybc> ssh: Could not resolve hostname bazaar.launchpad.net: Name or service not known
[01:19] <humphreybc> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.
[01:19] <humphreybc> oh nope it worked okay the second time
[01:19] <humphreybc> weird
[01:26] <humphreybc> If anyone sees Daker, tell him I've mocked up a Contributors page
[01:27] <humphreybc> and finalized the text for the website
[01:39] <godbyk> humphreybc: don't break my website or I will hurt you. :)
[01:39] <humphreybc> lol
[01:40] <humphreybc> i'm trying to push some stuff in ubuntu-manual-website
[01:40] <humphreybc> but it looks like daker has locked the branch
[01:44] <godbyk-android> Don't use that branch anyway. It's out of date.
[01:44] <humphreybc> oh
[01:44] <humphreybc> so we're not using that?
[01:44] <humphreybc> it needs to become up to date at some point
[01:45] <godbyk-android> Not sure  I'm not because those files were polder than the ones in ubuntu-manual/website
[01:45] <humphreybc> righto
[01:45] <humphreybc> we'll sort it out later
[01:45] <humphreybc> go back to your novel :)
[02:43] <Red_HamsterX> With a PPA, can we set dependencies on other (already-in-main) packages?
[02:43] <Red_HamsterX> I've never worked directly with one before.
[03:50] <Red_HamsterX> I've added a dependence on python-wnck, but everything titeuf wanted works now.
[03:51] <Red_HamsterX> The dependence is easy to sever if we want to let the user click maximize themselves.
[03:51] <Red_HamsterX> (It's a tiny set of bindings against an always-present Gnome library. It's Canonical-supported)
[04:37] <shrini> team:
[04:37] <shrini> need help
[04:37] <shrini> can not download latest build
[04:37] <shrini> it shows 404 error
[04:37] <shrini> humphreybc: you there?
[04:47] <shrini> http://ubuntu-manual.org/builds/ubuntu-manual.pdf
[04:47] <shrini> is not there
[04:47] <shrini> 404 error
[08:11] <humphreybc> so, where are the mugshots? hmm?
[08:16] <godbyk> apparently, no one wants to play.
[08:20] <godbyk> humphreybc: do you have any sort of estimate as to the number of contributors we'll have listed in the credits section?  translators, authors, editors, team leads, designers, website, blah blah blah...
[08:21] <humphreybc> godbyk, have a look in /website/source
[08:21] <humphreybc> contributors.png
[08:21] <humphreybc> something like that perhaps
[08:22] <humphreybc> and if no one sends me mugshots i'll resort to googling your names and finding photos off launchpad
[08:22] <godbyk> lol
[08:22] <humphreybc> godbyk did you get my android gtalk message?
[08:23] <godbyk> humphreybc: yeah, I just noticed it.
[08:23] <godbyk> hadn't turned on the sound yet.
[08:23] <humphreybc> ah right
[08:23] <humphreybc> i want to see how latitude works
[08:23] <humphreybc> hmm
[08:24] <humphreybc> howcome i can't see you in my friends list
[08:24] <humphreybc> ?
[08:24] <humphreybc> do I have to do something special?
[08:25] <humphreybc> ahh
[08:25] <humphreybc> i have to add you
[08:25] <humphreybc> godbyk, I added you, you probably have to accept
[08:32] <godbyk> yay, thorwil's here!
[08:32] <thorwil> morning! :)
[08:33] <godbyk> I just woke up from a four-hour nap.  Didn't get much reading done!
[08:34] <humphreybc> hey thorwil
[08:34] <humphreybc> remember the first thing you were going to do? :P
[08:42] <godbyk> okay, 'bzr status' says I haven't modified anything, but when I do a bzr pull, it says the branches have diverged and I have to merge 'em.  what's up with that?
[08:42] <humphreybc> no idea lol
[08:42] <humphreybc> bzr is weird
[08:44] <godbyk> crap.
[08:44] <godbyk> I think I committed something but didn't push it.
[09:27] <thorwil> awesome. an unfilled rectangle in my svg becomes a filled one in pdf
[09:28] <godbyk> thorwil: nice.  so are the problems with the PDF format itself or with inkscape's export function?
[09:29] <thorwil> godbyk: no idea and doesn't really matter
[09:34] <thorwil> godbyk: turning the stroke into a path makes this work. gonna try a minimal case and report that bug
[09:34] <godbyk> 'kay
[09:36] <thorwil> so that was my x-session suddenly disappearing
[09:36] <humphreybc1> happened to me too!
[09:36] <humphreybc1> on lucid?
[09:38] <thorwil> no, still karmic
[09:39] <humphreybc1> hm
[09:39] <thorwil> humphreybc1: work on logo takes a bit longer as i'm trying to make it pdf-compatible
[09:39] <humphreybc1> thorwil: that's okay
[10:01] <thorwil> humphreybc1, godbyk: http://www.foopics.com/showfull/ba2ef5cd976bd1d63992669bc9f84f5d
[10:02] <godbyk> thorwil: I think the bottom one with the lighter border color looks better.
[10:03] <humphreybc1> yep
[10:03] <humphreybc1> I agree with Kevin
[10:04] <humphreybc1> I wonder what it would look like with a small drop shadow underneat?
[10:04]  * humphreybc1 loves drop shadows
[10:04] <godbyk> humphreybc1: is obsessed with drop shadows.
[10:04] <godbyk> I think a drop shadow would just muddy up the image.
[10:04] <humphreybc1> it might do
[10:04] <humphreybc1> just below the book
[10:04] <humphreybc1> not around it
[10:04] <humphreybc1> like a blog
[10:04] <humphreybc1> blob*
[10:04] <humphreybc1> actually
[10:04] <humphreybc1> it probably would mess it up a bit
[10:05] <godbyk> we're using flat glyphs everywhere else, why would we want the logo to be 3d?
[10:05] <humphreybc1> godbyk, don't make me suggest we change everything else to 3D with drop shadows
[10:05] <humphreybc1> ;)
[10:05] <humphreybc1> okay fair enough
[10:05] <humphreybc1> no drop shadow
[10:05] <godbyk> never fear.  I have a strong suspicion that thorwil would reject that notion out of hand. :)
[10:06] <humphreybc1> of course he would
[10:06]  * humphreybc1 <3 thorwil 
[10:06] <thorwil> lol
[10:07] <thorwil> humphreybc1: you wanted different sizes?
[10:07] <humphreybc1> Red_HamsterX, TommyBrunn, Jono keeps harassing me about python snippets
[10:07] <humphreybc1> thorwil: yeah that would be nice. i suppose i could work out how to change the size in Inkscape though
[10:07] <humphreybc1> I might be capable of that
[10:07] <humphreybc1> :P
[10:08] <godbyk> well it's not always a matter of just scaling the image up or down.
[10:08] <godbyk> the larger images can afford more detail than the smaller version.
[10:08] <godbyk> versions.
[10:08] <godbyk> and the line thicknesses may need to be adjusted, too.
[10:08] <humphreybc1> thorwil, just if you could do small/medium and large versions of both the logo + wording and then just the logo
[10:08] <humphreybc1> true
[10:08] <thorwil> humphreybc1: this is all aligned to the pixel grid. if you choose a size where things don't end up on the grid again, things get blurry
[10:09] <humphreybc1> so the largest would be about the size of the one on the website/wiki ... before I made it smaller, if you remember that
[10:09] <humphreybc1> smallest would be about 20x20
[10:09] <humphreybc1> I'm sure you know what I mean
[10:10] <humphreybc1> we need to cover launchpad, wiki, website, facebook, twitter, identi.ca, that other thing that godbyk set up which has kudos and also in the manual
[10:10] <godbyk> most of those are using nice binary multiples.. 16x16, 32x32, 64x64, 128x128, etc.
[10:10] <thorwil> humphreybc1: i actually think the current size might be just fine for wiki and website. this graphic doesn't gain anything by growing larger, there's no detail to add
[10:11] <humphreybc1> okay
[10:11] <humphreybc1> binary sizes are good
[10:11] <humphreybc1> what godbyk said
[10:11] <godbyk> I'm going to a TeX conference at the beginning of July. Just looking over the presentations they've accepted so far, and some will be handy to see.
[10:11]  * godbyk is excited about the conference even though normal people would find it terribly dull.
[10:11] <humphreybc1> hahaha
[10:12] <humphreybc1> YAY!
[10:12] <humphreybc1> Tex!
[10:13] <thorwil> humphreybc1: favicon 16x16. launchpad uses 14x14?
[10:13] <humphreybc1> yeah launchpad are weird
[10:13] <humphreybc1> they have three different sizes
[10:13] <godbyk> 14x14? seriously?
[10:13] <humphreybc1> 14x14, 64x64 and 192x192
[10:13] <humphreybc1> I think
[10:13] <humphreybc1> 14x14 is for the little teeny icon
[10:13] <godbyk> wtf is that about.  that's just wrong.
[10:13] <humphreybc1> lol
[10:18] <godbyk> humphreybc1: This TeX talk sounds insane! http://tug.org/tug2010/abstracts/verna.txt  (I can't wait to hear it!)
[10:18] <humphreybc1> lolwut
[10:18] <humphreybc1> Latex and biology?
[10:18] <humphreybc1> stranger things have happened I guess
[10:19] <godbyk> evolving macros sound scary to me. :)
[10:19] <godbyk> Okay, I'm off to read some more and then get some real sleep.
[10:19] <godbyk> G'night!
[10:20] <humphreybc1> night!
[10:39] <dutchie> night godbyk
[10:40] <dutchie> morning everyone else
[10:44] <dutchie> did Red_HamsterX get his dependencies sorted?
[10:48] <humphreybc1>    hi dutche
[10:48] <humphreybc1> blah
[10:52] <humphreybc1> dutchie, email your mugshot please :)
[10:53] <dutchie> will http://media.joshh.co.uk/~jrh/me.jpg do?
[10:54] <humphreybc1> yea that'll work
[10:54] <humphreybc1> :)
[10:55] <humphreybc1> awesome, you can drag images from chrome to a folder and it downloads the image/sticks it in the folder
[10:55] <humphreybc1> I didn't know that
[11:06] <humphreybc1> might hit the sack soon too
[11:13] <humphreybc1> dutchie, if you see daker could you tell him:
[11:13] <humphreybc1> 1) I've finalized the text for the website
[11:14] <humphreybc1> and 2) I've added a mockup of what the contributors page should look like
[11:14] <dutchie> will do
[11:14] <humphreybc1> both the text and the new mockup are under website/source in the main manual branch
[11:14] <humphreybc1> and the text is actually in the mockups, not in text files or anything
[11:15] <humphreybc1> thanks
[11:15] <humphreybc1> and with that, i'm off to bed
[11:15] <humphreybc1> night!
[11:20] <humphreybc1> before I forget
[11:20] <humphreybc1> thorwil, i'll need the new logo in different sizes in my inbox by 0400 UTC on Monday
[11:21] <humphreybc1> godbyk, can you make sure that the download link for the english manual is working and the bug form is working before 0800 UTC on Monday
[11:22] <humphreybc1> I'm going to post the OMG! Ubuntu! article at about 0900 UTC on Monday
[11:22] <thorwil> humphreybc1: any other sizes than given, 14, 16, 64 and 192 px?
[11:22] <humphreybc1> dutchie, if you have time, go through the current bugs and triage them so they're completely up to date, remove any that have been fixed. We need a clean slate to work from for this week
[11:22] <dutchie> ok
[11:23] <humphreybc1> thorwil: You could do a really nice high res one :)
[11:23] <humphreybc1> and you're including the text as well?
[11:23] <thorwil> humphreybc1: only with currents size was the plan
[11:24] <humphreybc1> cool
[11:24] <humphreybc1> I can just crop the logo out when I need to use it without the text
[11:24] <godbyk-android> Make sure daker pulls my updates before changing things. (He's new to bzr.)
[11:24] <humphreybc1> sweet
[11:25] <humphreybc1> right, everyone got all that? I'll be back in about 16 hours.
[11:25]  * humphreybc1 has to sleep, then has uni
[11:25] <godbyk-android> ditto.
[11:26] <humphreybc1> sweet. dutchie, because you're going to be up for the better part of the next 16 hours, you're in charge. If daker comes, make sure he knows what's going on.
[11:26] <dutchie> ok
[11:26] <humphreybc1> sweet :)
[11:26] <humphreybc1> night!
[13:30] <komsas> cat /home/komsas/.irssi/nicklistfifo
[15:33] <shrini> team:
[15:34] <shrini> today we had a good time
[15:34] <shrini> with translating ubuntu manual into tamil
[15:34] <shrini> thanks all for your support
[15:34] <shrini> we did some 20% of work
[15:45] <ubuntujenkins> hows everyone doing?
[16:12] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: hai
[16:12] <shrini> we did some translation in tamil
[16:12] <shrini> some 20-30% of job is done
[16:13] <ubuntujenkins> Thats realy good news shrini
[16:13] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: we had a lot of fun here
[16:14] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: translation is a great job
[16:14] <ubuntujenkins> glad you like it
[16:16] <ubuntujenkins> does any one know where i can find the minutes to yesterdays meeting? I can't find them in the logs and they are not on the wiki
[16:19] <shrini> i too want it
[16:21] <shrini> thanks a lot for all your support and encouragement
[16:21] <shrini> we will keep on doing in this week days, if possible
[16:21] <shrini> if not, we will gathewr in the weekend and do it
[16:21] <shrini> 12 people of our kanchilug came here and do it
[16:21] <ubuntujenkins> good to see you are making progress and haveing fun whilst doing it :-)
[16:23] <shrini> :-)
[16:23] <shrini> we all gathered in my home
[16:23] <shrini> mom and dad keep on giving tea,busicuts, snacks etc
[16:23] <shrini> hahaha
[16:23] <ubuntujenkins> haha sounds fun
[16:23] <shrini> we kept on discussing, writing, kidding on our tamil knowledge
[16:24] <shrini> today only we know that how we are lack in tamil
[16:24] <shrini> hahhaa
[16:24] <shrini> but still the group activity gave us the
[16:24] <shrini> enthuasism to do it
[16:25] <shrini> now 2 guys are uploading their work in LP
[16:25] <ubuntujenkins> nice
[16:27] <shrini> thanks a lot
[16:27] <shrini> now going for dinner
[16:27] <shrini> will update the status as we do
[16:27] <ubuntujenkins> hope the food is good
[16:27] <ubuntujenkins> cool
[16:28] <shrini> true
[16:28] <shrini> okey
[16:28] <shrini> catch you later
[16:28] <ubuntujenkins> bye o/
[16:46] <Daker> hi!!!
[16:47] <Daker> anyone here ?
[16:48] <ubuntujenkins> hello Daker
[16:48] <Daker> how are u @all ?
[16:49] <ubuntujenkins> I am a little tired but good. you?
[16:49] <Daker> fine, with some DNS problem yesterday :)
[16:50] <ubuntujenkins> I guess its all sorted now then
[16:50] <Daker> yeah
[16:51] <ubuntujenkins> good good
[16:51] <dutchie> ooh, Daker
[16:51] <Daker> hi dutchie
[16:51] <ubuntujenkins> are dutchie do we have minutes for the meeting yet?
[16:51] <dutchie> 11:13:50 < humphreybc1> dutchie, if you see daker could you tell him:
[16:51] <dutchie> 11:13:57 < humphreybc1> 1) I've finalized the text for the website
[16:51] <dutchie> 11:14:07 < humphreybc1> and 2) I've added a mockup of what the contributors page should look like
[16:51] <dutchie> 11:14:24 < dutchie> will do
[16:51] <dutchie> 11:14:32 < humphreybc1> both the text and the new mockup are under website/source in the main manual branch
[16:51] <dutchie> 11:14:40 < humphreybc1> and the text is actually in the mockups, not in text files or anything
[16:52] <dutchie> 11:15:03 < humphreybc1> thanks
[16:52] <dutchie> ubuntujenkins: don't think so
[16:52] <ubuntujenkins> ok did i miss much?
[16:52] <dutchie> we had it in #ubuntu-meeting, that could be why you can't find it in the logs
[16:52] <ubuntujenkins> I looked in #ubuntu-meeting but still couldn't find them i will doubel check
[16:53] <dutchie> Daker: got all that?
[16:53] <Daker> yeah got it
[16:53] <ubuntujenkins> there is no log http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/03/20/%23launchpad-meeting.html
[16:54] <Daker> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/03/20/%23ubuntu-meeting.html
[16:54] <Daker> ubuntujenkins, :)
[16:55] <ubuntujenkins> i was loking at lanchpad meeting thanks Daker I have only had 8 hours sleep since friday
[16:55] <Daker> http://ubuntu-manual.org/ is it godbyk how made this ?
[17:02] <Daker> be back taler
[17:04] <ubuntujenkins> titeuf_87 and Red_HamsterX it looks like the meeting went well yesterday. Thanks for all your work so far, is there anything i can do at the moment to help?
[17:06] <titeuf_87> looks like Red_HamsterX implemented a lot of the stuff already we talked about yesterday
[17:06] <ubuntujenkins> I am so pleased with how quickly it is coming along
[17:07] <ubuntujenkins> I can give you the latest screenshot list
[17:08] <titeuf_87> ubuntujenkins, can you take a look at server/screencaps/config/dictionary and see if that's simple enough?
[17:08] <titeuf_87> this is where the list of screenshots that needs to be taken will be stored
[17:08] <ubuntujenkins> http://paste.ubuntu.com/398864/, it the list I think the quickshot live cd will be easy i am having compliing issues at the moment though
[17:08]  * ubuntujenkins looks
[17:11] <ubuntujenkins> titeuf_87: it looks good to me, will it contain all of the screenshots or will there be a file for each screenshot, what is the #=sub-rect= line and the one below mean?
[17:11] <ubuntujenkins> currently commented out
[17:12] <titeuf_87> that is if we only need a small part of a screenshot and not the whole window
[17:12] <titeuf_87> or in case of fullscreen windows to just grab the network list for instance
[17:13] <ubuntujenkins> i see how does the cordiates work? point to start from then size of box?
[17:14] <titeuf_87> I guess top-left corner and bottom-right corner, but I haven't played with it yet
[17:15] <ubuntujenkins> thats great
[18:31] <Red_HamsterX> Yeah, it's top-left and dimensions.
[18:31] <Red_HamsterX> A negative value for top or left will make it relative ot the opposite side.
[18:32] <Red_HamsterX> I can change anything quite easily, if needed.
[18:36] <Red_HamsterX> (Especially since I'm no longer bound to my netbook, so I can actually code things quickly)
[18:49] <shrini> http://ubuntu-manual.org/builds/ubuntu-manual.pdf
[18:49] <shrini> is not working
[18:55] <godbyk-android> shrini: try builds.ubuntu-manual.org.
[18:55] <shrini> great
[18:55] <shrini> but
[18:56] <shrini> this link is not in wiki page
[18:56] <shrini> that non working link only given there
[18:56] <shrini> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual
[18:56] <godbyk-android> We'll need to fix the wiki page then.
[18:56] <shrini> :-)
[18:56] <shrini> last week it worked well
[18:57] <ubuntujenkins> ok that sounds good Red_HamsterX
[18:57] <godbyk-android> It's a completely different website as of yesterday, though.
[18:57]  * ubuntujenkins edits wiki
[18:59] <godbyk-android> Thanks, ubuntujenkins!
[18:59] <ubuntujenkins> no problem its being slow today
[19:00] <ubuntujenkins> will be done when it loads
[19:09] <ubuntujenkins> godbyk-android: You are aware you can't download the any pdfs or text files from builds.ubuntu-manual.org?
[19:09] <godbyk-android> That may be true. I'm still getting it setup.
[19:10] <ubuntujenkins> thats ok I have pointed the wiki at the uk version like before
[19:10] <ubuntujenkins> *us english
[19:10] <godbyk-android> Okay. I'll get things updated in just a but.
[19:10] <godbyk-android> Bit.
[19:11] <ubuntujenkins> no problem just wanted to make sure you were aware
[19:26] <shrini> team: here is our fun day. http://kanchilug.wordpress.com/2010/03/21/translating-ubuntu-manual-into-tamil/
[19:26] <ubuntujenkins> shrini: already reading it :-)
[19:26] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: thanks a lot
[19:29] <ubuntujenkins> shrini: in the picture below "My mom and dad made us tireless with their snacks, tea, juice and sweet words. They are so proud of the team on this work." what is the guy in the picture holding? is it a cd?
[19:30] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: yes.
[19:30] <shrini> ubuntujenkins: ubuntu CD
[19:30] <shrini> custom made cover to distribute locally
[19:30] <ubuntujenkins> I like the case design
[19:30] <shrini> :-)
[19:52] <godbyk> Okay, I'm back at my computer again. Let me look at the build site stuff.
[20:05] <godbyk> Hey, vish, are you around?
[20:05] <vish> godbyk: yup
[20:06] <godbyk> vish: What icons would you suggest I use to link to the manual PDFs and log files on the ubuntu-manual build page?
[20:06] <godbyk> http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/
[20:07] <godbyk> I had some ugly ones before, but I accidentally deleted them when I moved the builds page.
[20:07] <godbyk> (Along with the .css file.)
[20:07] <vish> godbyk: you can use the same icons used in lp
[20:07] <godbyk> where are they?
[20:08] <vish> hmm.. lemme check
[20:11] <vish> godbyk: https://launchpad.net/+icing/rev9091/icon-sprites
[20:11] <vish> godbyk: save that as a png , it has several icons
[20:12] <vish> godbyk: also > https://launchpad.net/@@/build-success
[20:13] <godbyk> ooh.. nice checkbox.  is there a build-failure, too?
[20:13] <godbyk> there is!
[20:14] <godbyk> vish: I didn't see a pdf or log file icon in the sprites.
[20:16] <vish> godbyk: hmm , i dont think we have a pdf , the icon-sprites have several icons.. there is one with "files" and a file too
[20:18] <vish> godbyk: or you can just grab the pdf icon from the humanity theme , there is a 16px icon and a 16px log icon
[20:18] <vish> godbyk: pdf > /usr/share/icons/Humanity/mimes/16/gnome-mime-application-pdf.svg
[20:19] <vish> godbyk: for logfile > /usr/share/icons/Humanity/apps/16/accessories-text-editor.svg
[20:22] <godbyk> I think I may use launchpad's file icon for the log files and their download icon for the pdf. let me try that real quick and see if it makes sense.
[20:23] <vish> yeah..
[20:26] <vish> godbyk: for log file you can use the dots with lines like the one used for changelog here > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/gtk2-engines-murrine
[20:32]  * vish ZZzzz...
[20:33]  * ubuntujenkins is going to restart and try the first every ubuntu manual quickshot live cd
[20:36] <dutchie> ooh, nice idea
[20:38] <godbyk> wow! that sounds impressive!
[20:54] <dutchie> ubuntujenkins: does it work?
[20:54] <ubuntujenkins> erm no I think i forgot to change something I got ditracted whilst making it I am wrting a script to do it as i think I will be trying to do this a few times.
[20:55] <ubuntujenkins> also I have onlly had 8 hours sleep since friday
[20:55] <ubuntujenkins> and my typing is awful
[21:11] <godbyk> ubuntujenkins: where was the bad wiki link (to the PDF)?
[21:12] <ubuntujenkins> erm it was on the download buttonon the home page I can't use the internet to check it i acedently removed my resolve.conf
[21:14] <godbyk> k
[21:14] <ubuntujenkins> but irc still works
[21:15] <godbyk> vish: Looking a little better?  http://builds.ubuntu-manual.org/
[21:15] <godbyk> I'm still fiddling with the css to format the table (adjusting the spacing, mostly).
[21:15] <godbyk> brb. need food. starving.
[21:25] <godbyk> back
[22:48] <godbyk> I just printed the whole manual, so I'll sit down and start reading through it and marking it up soon.