=== yofel_ is now known as yofel [06:57] asac: /usr/share/idl doesn't exist in Thunderbird [06:59] haha, debuild built a songbird .deb =) [06:59] ddecator: nice, can you propose a merge or push up to LP in a private branch of yours so I can see the changes? [07:00] micahg: once debuild finishes i'm going to test to see if it installs alright. if it does, then i'll do that. do you prefer a merge request or me uploading to my own ppa? [07:01] and it finished =) [07:01] ddecator: merge request is fine to lp:songbrid [07:01] *songbird [07:01] ddecator: you have to push under your name first [07:01] micahg: alright, mind telling me real quick how i do that? [07:02] ddecator: bzr push lp:~ddecatur/songbird/fix-songbird-daily-20100321 [07:02] micahg: from the folder that has the .deb in it? [07:03] ddecator: not the deb [07:03] the bzr branch [07:03] micahg: so...the songbird folder or the build-area folder? [07:03] ddecator: neither [07:04] ddecator: you need to copy your changes back to the bzr branch that you created [07:05] micahg: ok, so in groundcontrol, go into the bzr folder labeled "songbird," copy all of my changes into there, and then push it? [07:05] micahg: p.s., it loaded fine ;) [07:05] and plays my music =D [07:07] ddecator: great :) [07:07] and all of my information is still on there =) [07:07] I'm interested in the changes from 1.5 to 1.8 [07:08] micahg: alright, sorry, just not sure what all i need to do...so copy everything into that bzr folder or just replace the debian folder in there? [07:08] micahg: i really like the new look...actually fits the default lucid theme (purple) [07:08] ddecator: copy your changes into that folder [07:08] micahg: so the .deb, dgb.deb, diff, all of it? [07:08] ddecator: i.e. the files you modified in debian in the build-area [07:09] ddecator: no [07:09] micahg: ah, so the debian folder, gotcha [07:10] aw, didn't save my ratings or playlists =( [07:11] micahg: hopefully i'm doing this right with groundcontrol... [07:11] micahg: it's uploading [07:11] ddecator: I haven't used it so I don't know [07:12] micahg: request merge? [07:12] ddecator: yes [07:13] micahg: should be done [07:14] ddecator: nope you did that wrong [07:15] micahg: what's wrong? [07:15] ddecator: did you copy the whole debian dir? [07:15] micahg: yes [07:15] ddecator: that's the problem [07:15] ddecator: you only needed to copy the files you changed...debian/tmp is where make install puts stuff [07:15] Diff against target: 166205 lines (+164087/-37) 279 files modified [07:16] micahg: oops... [07:17] micahg: one sec [07:17] micahg: groundcontrol had me save the change, so i'll pull the latest branch and do it right this time =p [07:18] ddecator: k [07:22] micahg: it says "these branches have diverged" [07:22] ddecator: -push --overwrite [07:27] micahg: ok, i think i got it that time [07:31] still buggy... [07:31] but not bad =) [07:37] micahg: does it look like i did it right that time? [07:40] ddecator: simply close old bugs wher you havent heard back for more than 2 months ;) sometimes closing the bug only pokes the OP to reply :) [07:41] ddecator: ex: Bug 391675 [07:41] Launchpad bug 391675 in firefox "Glitch between windows titlebar and top panel when maximized" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/391675 [07:41] vish: haha, i've just been following the "wait 4 weeks, ask them to reply, wait 2 more weeks, close the bug" idea from the bugsquad wiki =p [07:41] ddecator: i use the last marked "incomplete" and then see the 2 months :) [07:42] vish: fair enough, i'll start doing something like that, mainly just to prevent bugmail spamming (like i did tonight ;)) [07:42] ddecator: is that 4..2..close in the wiki? hmm [07:42] vish: yah, let me find a sec... [07:44] vish: see the "incomplete bugs without response from submitter" on the replies wiki page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Incomplete%20bugs%20without%20a%20response%20from%20submitter) [07:45] ddecator: hehe , neat , thats shorter than 2 months \o/ [07:45] vish: "more than 4 weeks" is what starts the gray area ;) [07:47] ddecator: ;) i use the last after 2weeks message at 2 months :) [07:48] vish: fair enough, i'll think about adjusting my methods a little =) [07:49] ddecator: nah , not a problem for me.. was just trying to save you the trouble ;) [07:49] vish: not a problem for you, possibly annoying for those subscribed to firefox bugs ;) at least while i'm doing clean-up... [07:50] ddecator: as long as you're following policy, it's fine by me [07:51] micahg: i figure everyone is just deleting my spam like i am =p [07:51] micahg: btw, did i upload the branch right this time? [07:52] ddecator: it says it hasn't been pushed ot yet [07:52] ... [07:53] ddecator: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ddecator/songbird/fix-songbird-daily-20100321 [07:53] micahg: does that mean i didn't push it to lp right? [07:53] ddecator: idk [07:54] micahg: i just used the bzr command you gave (groundcontrol was freaking out on me) [07:54] ddecator: run bzr log -r109 -p | less and tell me how many lines it is [07:54] bzr log -r109 -p | wc -l <---is probably better as it will give you a line count [07:55] micahg: 240 [08:10] micahg: should i try again? [08:10] ddecator: idk, try pushing to something else under your name [08:11] micahg: huh...when i try to unlock it in groundcontrol, it says the lock is in use... [08:11] ddecator: idk about ground control [08:11] try the cli :) [08:12] oh... [08:13] let me pastebin the error a sec [08:14] micahg: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/398648/ [08:14] micahg: running that created a branch with the same problem (i deleted it) [08:16] ddecator: can you pastebin the diff: bzr log -r109 -p [08:16] ddecator: actually, email it to me...I need ot go to sleep [08:16] micahg: sure thing [08:16] ddecator: that or get someone to help you with the branch [08:17] waaaaaay past my bed time [08:17] whoa, it's later than i thought... [08:20] here is the other output: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/398650/ [08:25] ddecator: interesting, I'll review tommorrow [08:25] micahg: sounds good, thanks [12:22] hmm. thats odd. it built here [12:23] did they drop that post .3 ? [12:23] (/usr/share/idl/ [12:24] asac: still no fix for FF3.7 not starting ?? [12:25] BUGabundo: chrisccoulson is your friend ;) [12:25] not lately :( [12:25] and what has chrisccoulson to do with it? [12:26] hi! [12:28] o/ [12:30] BUGabundo: he is now taking care of firefox too ;) [12:31] o k a y..... [12:36] BUGabundo: what are your symptoms? [12:37] flu [12:37] BUGabundo: not starting? [12:37] but other then that I'm fine :p [12:37] even with no extension? [12:37] now in what concerns to FF3.7 [12:37] not even safe mode works [12:37] BUGabundo: what do you get on the console when running -safe-mode [12:37] please paste [12:38] nothing at all [12:38] just a pop up [12:38] with [12:38] Firefox-3.7 is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox-3.7 process, or restart your system. [12:39] BUGabundo: so first run works? [12:39] but then it stops? [12:39] $ firefox-3.7 -P /tmp/f [12:39] seems to work [12:39] i did see that once with FF 3.7 after it crashed [12:40] so first start works [12:40] seems so [12:40] second start works too ;) [12:40] it just took quit3e a bit until it stopped [12:40] e.g. the previous [12:40] run [12:41] trying old profile [12:41] Minefield cannot use the profile "3.7-4" because it is in use. [12:41] To continue, close the running instance of Minefield or choose a different profile [12:42] but I have NO firefox of any version running [12:44] why did you name the profile 3.7-4? [12:44] is that a pattern you used before? [12:44] I have way too many profiles [12:45] yes it is [12:45] BUGabundo, do you have a stale .parentlock file in your profile? i had that after FF 3.7 crashed, and I couldn't get it to start again with symptoms that sounded like yours... [12:45] :~/.mozilla/firefox$ ls | pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/398746/ [12:45] I've got all my profiles since ff 2.x [12:46] -rw-r--r-- 1 bugabundo bugabundo 0 2010-03-14 18:59 .parentlock [12:47] chrisccoulson: removing parentlock seems to work [12:49] shouldn't those be automagicly removed? [12:49] BUGabundo, they are if it shuts down normally [12:51] * BUGabundo goes to update a bunch of addons now that 3.7a3 is supported by nightly tools [12:54] parentlock shouldnt become stale ;) [12:54] maybe worse to take a look here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.9.2/source/profile/dirserviceprovider/src/nsProfileLock.cpp [12:56] so we have LockWithFcntl and LockWithSymlink [12:56] oops have to run out for a bit [13:08] asac - thanks for the pointer. i will investigate that next time it happens again [13:16] asac - if you get a chance, could you please look over https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Lucid/FirefoxNewSupportModel/extension-list at some point [13:16] feel free to make changes where you think we should keep some extensions [13:52] Hello [13:52] What is going on with Firefox 3.7 builds? [13:53] The last one was on march the 4th [14:38] Hello [14:38] What is going on with Firefox 3.7 builds? [14:38] The last one was on march the 4th. :( [14:46] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa [14:46] 10 hours ago [14:48] oh, failed to build [14:51] mahfouz, it's like that for about 17 days :( [14:51] yeah, something is broken [14:52] they said they would get back to it when 3.7 is in beta [14:53] Milos_SD, you know you can get good builds from mozilla [14:53] yes [14:53] but how to install it insted of this one? :) [14:53] overwrite all files? :D [14:54] http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/ [14:54] just download [14:54] and click "firefox" [14:54] you don't need to compile [14:54] the only problem is it might use your 3.6 profile cause it's called "firefox" [14:54] and not "firefox-3.7" [15:01] Milos_SD: mahfouz please don't go out of official repos [15:01] go out? [15:01] at least I don't go out with official repos :) [15:03] BUGabundo, so when will there be a workable 3.7 in dailies? [15:04] that I don't know [15:04] do you know when mozilla will go into beta1? [15:04] for 3.7 i mean [15:05] anyway, I like 3.7, it's really faster for things like gmail [15:09] chromium is faster :P [15:10] chromium is slower than 3.7 for me when it comes to loading gmail [15:10] chromium is only faster because it has no real ad blocker :) [15:25] chrisccoulson: I think we should read the code and see why this could happen [15:25] but ok ;) [15:28] mahfouz: i dont understand why chromium should be faster as it has no real ad blocker [15:28] or is that a typo? [15:28] sorry [15:28] I meant the acid test [15:28] chromium does not pass the acid test for me with ad blocker [15:29] kk [15:29] it also hangs for me sometimes [15:29] chrisccoulson: ffox 3.7 daily build also is ftbfs (read above) [15:29] ftbfs? [15:30] fail to build from source [15:30] !ftbfs [15:30] asac, ok, i'll take a look at that in a bit [15:31] Hunk #1 FAILED at 67. [15:31] 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- rejects in file browser/installer/package-manifest.in [15:32] Patch bzXXX_moz_app_name_inconsistencies.patch does not apply (enforce with -f) [15:32] yeah needs to be rebased [15:44] hmm. seems tbird only fails on hardy, jaunty [15:44] and intrepid [15:45] guess i am using a _new_ cdbs feature ;) [15:48] BUGabundo: is your ffox profile on nfs? [15:54] nope [15:54] ext4 [15:54] local disk [15:55] asac: guess this is the perfect opportunity to switch to glory dh7 ;P [16:07] Hello, I just upgraded to lucid beta from karmic, firefox doesn't start anymore and it doesn't give an error, how can I find out the problem [16:08] I found that if I remove my ~/.mozilla/firefox/ , firefox works, is there some log file to look at or so ? [16:09] AnAnt: i think thats fully fixed in bzr now [16:09] try daily please [16:09] if not let me know [16:09] daily ? [16:10] https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa [16:10] just add and upgrade [16:11] ok [16:41] asac: that worked, thanks [16:51] chrisccoulson: anyways...could you please upload xul192-0ubuntu2 that's tagged? [16:52] micahg - yeah, i need to check to make sure i can upload that first [16:55] chrisccoulson: oh, maybe you can't... [16:56] bdrung: around? [17:03] chrisccoulson: maybe you can help me apply for a mozilla package group? :) [17:03] s/group/set/ [17:03] micahg - i think that's a good idea [17:11] micahg: now [17:11] bdrung: hi, can you upload the tagged xulrunner-1.9.2-0ubuntu2 update please :) [17:12] micahg: ask me in two hours again [17:12] bdrung: ok, thanks :) [17:13] chrisccoulson: BTW, did you know there's an #ubuntu-release channel? [17:13] yeah, i don't normally hang out in there though ;) [17:13] chrisccoulson: k === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:50] i dont see a tagged 1.9.2 [17:51] oh [17:53] let me upload 192 [17:55] asac: k, thanks :) [17:56] asac: then I'll do final tests on fennec and prism and tag for release [17:57] uploadewd [17:57] btw tbird only fails hardy - jaunty [17:58] because cdbs is too old there [17:58] will fix that and a few other things to make the sdk more complete [17:59] asac: k, should I assign the enigmail bug to you or chrisccoulson? [18:07] micahg: enigmail will be tough [18:07] i tried it and it seem to still use INTERNAL API [18:07] which isn broken with sdk approach [18:07] asac: that's not good [18:08] asac: what are your thoughts on bundling the chrome ambiance and radiance themes? [18:12] jcastro: what theme are we using atm by default ;)? [18:12] Human? [18:12] no, the default bright blue upstream one [18:12] i mean in general ;) [18:12] jcastro: on our desktop ;) ... what is selected in Appearence there? [18:12] ambiance afaik [18:13] hmm [18:14] should I just file a bug? [18:14] jcastro: talk to fta ;) [18:14] we can probably get that in, if we know how to properly package such [18:15] ok [19:13] jcastro, if you mean scrollbar, you'll need to do that in css, it's not a gtk widget [19:20] fta: no I mean the general theme. The scrollbar one is an extension and probably isn't a good idea to ship it since it breaks some features [19:22] asac: gjs is ported with JIT disabled...some of the tests fail, do we need to worry about it? [19:23] asac: some of the tests fail with it enabled..it works fine with it disabled [19:33] jcastro, there's no system path to store addons/themes (just user dirs), but upstream agreed it's a must-have feature [20:01] is it possible to remove this stuff? [20:01] (firefox-bin:1486): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead [20:02] my .xsession-errors is unreadable :) [20:02] mahfouz: that's flash [20:11] fta: is system themes/addons an existing bug in the upstream? I can keep a wishlist open in lp. [20:44] jcastro, i'm not sure, i discussed that last week with upstream, but i didn't file a bug myself, i'm busy with work [20:44] ok cool, thanks [21:38] has anyone here used refdbg before? [21:54] Hi, so what's the deal with bug #512615 ? [21:54] Launchpad bug 512615 in firefox "fonts are incorrectly rendered due to not using system cairo" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512615 [21:55] * micahg runs away [22:15] So am I to understand that you don't care enough about the bug to fix it? [22:16] TomJaeger: I do care...it needs more time than I have ATM [22:17] How is it going to be fixed? --enable-system cairo or patching firefox's internal version of cairo [22:17] TomJaeger: we need to get it fixed upstream either by mozilla or cairo [22:17] So it's not going to happen for lucid? [22:18] I can't say for sure [22:18] wow [22:19] what's wrong with system cairo? [22:26] Let's face it -- the chances of anything happening upstream before lucid reaches hardcore freeze mode are essentially 0. [22:27] TomJaeger: yes, but since we're using upstream libs, we can get the fix after lucid releases as well :) [22:28] How long will this take, though? In my mind, a year would be very optimistic. [22:29] TomJaeger: idk...it depends if we can prove how widespread the problem is...ATM, it's just Ubuntu with the issue AFAIK [22:29] yes, because only debian/ubuntu is shipping with a patched cairo [22:30] and for debian this obviously wouldn't be a problem since they can just patch away however they feel like. [22:31] TomJaeger: right [22:34] The issue comes up periodically on the cairo mailing list (last time in January), but no conclusion is ever reached. [22:38] And even if this feature gets added to cairo master eventually, the result is unlikely to be backportable. [22:40] TomJaeger: one problem at a time [22:40] This is my point, though -- sorting all of this out will take a lot of time. [23:21] Just to be clear, the decision that ubuntu will not enable system cairo (for fear that mozilla bump its cairo dependency in a point release) is set in stone? [23:23] TomJaeger: Not my place to say [23:43] <[reed]> asac / micahg / fta: http://design-noir.de/log/2010/03/hit-by-a-really-nasty-bug-in-ubuntu/ [23:46] [reed]: ?? [23:47] [reed]: are you complaining or informing? [23:47] <[reed]> dao hates lucid's default window control placement so much that he's basically threatening to resort to XUL-based title bar rather than native [23:49] [reed]: ah...I see [23:52] TomJaeger: thats set in stone, yes. we need to get permission to patch in-source one. for that collecting links to relevant upstream discussion would help [23:52] micahg: i have a working enigmail ;) [23:52] if you have x86 i can give you an .xpi to test [23:54] http://people.canonical.com/~asac/tmp/enigmail-1.0-linux-i686.xpi [23:56] asac: great [23:56] asac: can I test? [23:56] asac: I'm on amd64 :) [23:58] nope [23:58] only in x86 chroot then [23:58] asac: it won't work when you're done or right now? [23:59] err. that xpi wont work [23:59] because its x86 [23:59] the final result will work [23:59] but cant build amd64 atm [23:59] right, ok, I'll wait till it gets in archvie then [23:59] * micahg is testing fennec