[00:31] <MTecknology> !nickspam | Guest55786
[01:52] <bogeyd6> chan sure is quiet
[01:52] <bogeyd6> everyone must be off work
[02:33] <psyferre> hey folks, does anyone know of a way to disable the automatic installation of secutiry updates?  I chose that without thinking during my installation and would like to change that...
[02:34] <psyferre> my googling has so far been foiled by a million results for the desktop edition =-/
[02:36] <rohanroy> Hey all, I've setup a VPN on a remote server using PPTP and CHAP Authentication on an Ubuntu 8.04 Server. Here in California, I can connect to my VPN on my mac, and Windows XP machines. I'm trying to setup a virtual machine on my home server running Ubuntu 9.10 via VirtualBox, VM is running: Ubuntu 8.04 JeOS. I would like this virtual machine to have a persistent connection to the PPTP VPN. I've managed to set it up so it successfully joi
[02:36] <rohanroy> VPN, I can ping and traceroute properly to the VPN server and other clients on the remote LAN. However, I would like to have it so that ALL TRAFFIC is routed through the VPN tunnel. I'm following the information here: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/routing.phtml#automatic-setup However, I'm having difficulty getting it to work. Is there anyone here who can provide any help?
[04:35] <MTecknology> !nickspam > Guest97070
[05:15] <draik> Hello everyone. I'm trying to install tomcat on the Ubuntu server, but it doesn't seem to find java. I have downloaded/installed it on the server from the java.com site.
[06:36] <pda-> php5-cli in lucid seems to have lost readline support.. where I should start to look into or report this?
[06:53] <kuros> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.10 on a PowerEdge 2500 server via PXE. It works fine until near the end, right after it installs extra packages, and it suddenly stops and displays a grey screen with a bunch of text on it.
[06:54] <kuros> It has things lke /usr/lib/locale/en_us_utf/LC_IDENTIFICATION and /lib/id-2.9.so written on it. Does anyone know what is going wrong?
[06:54] <MTecknology> Why isn't the default umask 0027 instead of 022?
[06:56] <pda-> (re php5-cli/readline: I've submitted LP bug #543212)
[08:38] <sekyourbox> Is anyone awake?  I have been fighting with wpa_supplicant for over a week now. I can successfully connect to my router, and then get an ip address with dhcpcd wlan0, but I cannot get DNS.. I can access anything from its ip address without any problems....
[08:42] <sekyourbox> this makes no sence
[09:28] <jronnblom> New servers from DELL cant install Lucid 10.4 Beta since the driver for the RAID cards are still missing
[09:51] <RoyK^> jronnblom: is it in upstream kernel_
[09:51] <RoyK^> ?
[09:52] <jronnblom> yes its in the kernel but not in the kernel that is used on the install dvds
[09:53] <jronnblom> What I mean is that the drivers is in the 2.6.32-16-server kernel which is used after install but the 2.6.32-16-generic that is used for installation don't have the driver
[10:01] <sherr> jronnblom: But are you using the server ISO? Surely the Lucid server betaa/ISO uses the server kernel?
[10:01] <jronnblom> sherr: yes I am using the server ISO but the installer uses the -generic kernel so no new DELL servers work with Lucid.
[10:03] <RoyK^> wtf
[10:04] <RoyK^> my servers on 8.04 have -server kernel without any manual hassle
[10:05] <jronnblom> Old server won't be affected only new ones using the Perc H200/H700/H800 series of RAID controllers
[10:05] <RoyK^> well, sure, but why would the server install use -generic kernel?
[10:05] <RoyK^> ah
[10:05] <RoyK^> oc
[10:05] <RoyK^> ic
[10:06] <sherr> I have the server ISO and have had a look :
[10:06] <sherr> install/vmlinux contains :
[10:06] <RoyK^> but doesn't the generic kernel have all drivers?
[10:06] <sherr> 2.6.32-16-generic
[10:06] <sherr> So - I gues it boots the generic but lets you install the -server after initial setup/update.
[10:07] <RoyK^> the drivers aren't really related to -server or -generic
[10:07] <sherr> jronnblom: what RAID card? You are installing on RAID?
[10:07] <jronnblom> sherr: I have the H200 RAID card in my DELLS
[10:07] <jronnblom> and using RAID-1
[10:07] <RoyK^> those are mostly for tuning
[10:07] <sherr> And installing OS on RAID-1 mirror?
[10:08] <sherr> What driver is the H200?
[10:08] <jronnblom> yepp, OS is on RAID-1
[10:08] <jronnblom> mpt2sas
[10:09] <sherr> OK, I didn;t know the initial server boot used a -generic with a different set of moduls to -server.
[10:09] <jronnblom> neither did I until recently :)
[10:10] <RoyK^> perhaps someone forgot to add that module to the generic set
[10:10] <sherr> jronnblom: maybe log a bug (check it doesn't exist already)
[10:10] <jronnblom> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/530361
[10:10] <RoyK^> to install now, copy the driver out to a usb drive or something and load it manually
[10:10] <sherr> Thanks - good luck!
[10:11] <jronnblom> I tried that and the USB key is detected as /dev/sda and when I insmod the driver the disks show up as /dev/sdb... So the installer writes the grub to the USB key.
[10:12] <RoyK^> heh - remove the usb key after copying the driver to /tmp ;)
[10:12] <RoyK^> that is, insert the usb key after booting up
[10:12] <RoyK^> that might help
[10:12] <jronnblom> great idea :)
[10:13] <jronnblom> That would make it work and on the first boot you boot the installer and go into rescue mode so you can mount the partition and add the mpt2sas driver there (if the boot-image that is generated doesn't contain the driver)
[10:18] <RoyK^> I don't think you'll need 'rescue mode'
[10:18] <RoyK^> just press alt+left after choosing language/keyboard, and there's a console there
[10:18] <RoyK^> alt+f-something
[10:18] <RoyK^> or alt+left/right
[14:37] <jaypur> hi
[14:38] <jaypur> does anyone use scp
[14:38] <jaypur> ?
[14:47] <RoyK^> well of course
[14:53] <bogeyd6> !anyone | jaypur
[14:59] <RoyK^> hehe
[14:59] <RoyK^> jaypur: what about scp?
[15:00] <jaypur> RoyK, i'm trying to move some files and it says can't connect to port 22, but i can't open port 22, so i'd like to change the port for scp....
[15:02] <RoyK^> heh
[15:02] <RoyK^> scp uses ssh
[15:02] <RoyK^> if you can't use ssh into the box, you can't use scp
[15:02] <RoyK^> apt-get install ssh
[15:03] <RoyK^> on the box you're trying to transfer the data to
[15:07] <jaypur> RoyK, my ssh is configure to use port 1010
[15:07] <jaypur> should i change another port at ssh file???
[15:07] <RoyK^> scp -p
[15:07] <RoyK^> man scp
[15:08] <RoyK^> the are and the tee and the eff and the emm joins up
[15:10] <jaypur> let me try
[15:11] <jaypur> RoyK,  scp -r -p 1010 /mydirectory user@myserver: serverdirectory
[15:11] <RoyK^> remove the space after :
[15:11] <RoyK^> better yet, use rsync
[15:12] <jaypur> i'm trying to configurate somethig to upload files to my server
[15:12] <RoyK^> rsync -avP somedir somehost:/somedir
[15:12] <jaypur> i'm trying ftp too
[15:12] <jaypur> scp -r -p 1010 /home/jan/Imagens/tux.gif jan@jan-server:/var/www
[15:12] <RoyK^> why do you have ssh on another port?
[15:14] <jaypur> RoyK, because my internet provider blocks a lot of ports
[15:14] <RoyK^> oh. even ssh?
[15:14] <RoyK^> that's evil
[15:14] <jaypur> yeah
[15:14] <jaypur> llook
[15:14] <jaypur> i've posted it my block
[15:14] <jaypur> blog
[15:14] <jaypur> sorry
[15:15] <RoyK^> scp -p someport -r somedir somehost:newdir
[15:15] <RoyK^> should work
[15:15] <RoyK^> check first if you can ssh -p to that port
[15:15] <jaypur> http://linuxjay.blogspot.com/2009/07/portas-bloqueadas-pelo-velox.html
[15:16] <jaypur> RoyK, i can use ssh with port 1010, and i'm using nautilus -X on it... but i can't transfer files from nautilus_desktop to nautilus_server
[15:16] <RoyK^> I don't understand much of your language - is it portugese?
[15:16] <jaypur> yeah brazilian portuguese
[15:16] <jaypur> you can traslate it by google
[15:16] <jaypur> it has an app at the right top
[15:17] <jaypur> i instaleed vsftpd
[15:17] <jaypur> but i don't know how to add a ftp user or how to connect to it =//
[15:17] <RoyK^> just use scp
[15:17] <RoyK^> or rsync
[15:17] <jaypur> =/
[15:17] <RoyK^> less hassle
[15:17] <RoyK^> rsync uses ssh as transport
[15:18] <jaypur> but do you know how to set vsftpd?
[15:18] <RoyK^> yes
[15:18] <RoyK^> I use it a lot
[15:18] <jaypur> i think its better for me
[15:18] <RoyK^> but the manual is easier than asking me
[15:18] <jaypur> use ftp...
[15:18] <jaypur> where can i find the manual?
[15:18] <RoyK^> I mostly use rsync these days
[15:18] <RoyK^> man vsftpd
[15:18] <jaypur> i've already installed and configured
[15:18] <RoyK^> that's a start
[15:18] <RoyK^> the config file has a lot of docs too
[15:18] <jaypur> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[15:19] <RoyK^> just read the manual before asking, please
[15:20] <jaypur> aaaargh
[15:20] <jaypur> but what's happening to scp?
[15:20] <RoyK^> you still haven't given us an error message
[15:21] <jaypur> aah sorry
[15:21] <jaypur> ssh: connect to host jan-server port 22: Connection refused
[15:21] <jaypur> lost connection
[15:21] <jaypur> my port 22 is blocked and i can't get it open
[15:22] <RoyK^> man scp
[15:22] <RoyK^> what does that tell you?
[15:23] <jaypur> ssh: connect to host jan-server port 22: Connection refused
[15:23] <jaypur> lost connection
[15:24] <RoyK^> still port 22
[15:24] <RoyK^> didn't you say you were using another?
[15:24] <jaypur> yup
[15:24] <jaypur> scp -r -p 1010 /home/jan/Imagens/tux.gif jan@jan-server:/var/www
[15:24] <RoyK^> then why do you try port 22?
[15:25] <jaypur> is that right???
[15:25] <RoyK^> you didn't RTFM, did you?
[15:25] <jaypur> i've read something...
[15:25] <RoyK^> try the top line
[15:25] <RoyK^> about the options
[15:26] <RoyK^> it says something about port
[15:26] <jaypur> what? i know the problem is the port
[15:27] <jaypur> but i don't know how to connect it on a different port.... 1010 is my ssh port
[15:27] <RoyK^> what does the manual say about port?
[15:27] <jaypur> i think it uses the same port of ssh?
[15:29] <klaas> I think its -P if I remember right :)
[15:29] <klaas> but if you use the site more often you should consider a bookmark in ssh config
[15:29] <klaas> that one is used by scp aswell
[15:30] <jaypur> klaas, right
[15:30] <jaypur> klaas, connected
[15:31] <jaypur> klaas, let me try, now it's right is -P
[15:31]  * RoyK^ frouns
[15:31] <RoyK^> jaypur: please RTFM next time and don't ask others to do it for you
[15:32] <jaypur> now i need to set the right directory :)
[15:32] <jaypur> thanks
[15:33] <jaypur> klaas, :)
[15:34] <viezerd> man pages are SO handy, I wonder why nobody reads them
[15:41] <jaypur> yeaaah i got it!
[16:47] <RoAk> kirkland`, heya!
[16:47] <kirkland`> RoAk: yo
[16:48] <RoAk> kirkland`, hey are you gonna do changes to testdrive in this upcoming days?
[16:48] <kirkland> RoAk: i uploaded about 2 minutes ago :-)
[16:48] <kirkland> you have a merge, RoAk ?
[16:49] <RoAk> kirkland, well I already started with a first modularization, im 70% right now
[16:50] <RoAk> so I was wondering if you cool freeze the code for a few days so that I can finish
[16:50] <RoAk> so that I work on an up to day code
[16:50] <RoAk> instead of having to merge your changes in my modularization :)
[16:52] <kirkland> RoAk: heh, sure
[16:52] <kirkland> RoAk: i should make any major changes between now and Lucid release
[16:52] <kirkland> RoAk: "shouldn't"
[16:52] <kirkland> RoAk: ie, it's basically frozen now
[16:53] <RoAk> kirkland, awesome then. I'm gonna merge your changes in my changes then and bomb you with question later today since I already have a few :)
[16:54] <kirkland> RoAk: cool
[16:54] <kirkland> RoAk: i'm not going to be around much; drop me an email with your questions
[16:56] <RoAk> kirkland, ok if not we can just discuss them tomorrow. Anyways, Btw... I'll also probably change the way the config is loaded and remove the code that defines the ISO list from there and put it on the main code
[16:57] <kirkland> RoAk: okay ... is there a better way of sourcing files in python?
[16:58] <RoAk> kirkland, that's what I was trying to investigate last night but I decided to first do an initial modularization and deal with that later. But yes, I was planing on reading the file and return a list with all the variables and values
[16:59] <RoAk> instead of executing the file
[17:00] <kirkland> RoAk: hrm, why?
[17:00] <kirkland> RoAk: there's actually logic in there
[17:00] <kirkland> RoAk: i kind of like exec'ing the file
[17:00] <kirkland> unless there's a clearly better way
[17:01] <RoAk> kirkland,  yeah me too, but the problem if I exec the file inside a function and not in the global namespace, the variables are not longer to exist
[17:02] <RoAk> i men, i tried executing the file in the function, and then try using the ISO variable at It wasen't recognized. It only works when it is executed in the global namespace
[17:13] <hggdh> yeee testdrive is getting a *lot* of attention :-)
[17:13] <RoAk> hggdh, that's my GSoC project :)
[17:14] <hggdh> RoAk, cool, good to know... I will wait for your code, then (also was considering factoring all the VM calls)
[17:16] <hggdh> Dustin just added a way to call a previously created VM (this is the upload he just did); in doing so he preempted me...
[17:17] <RoAk> hggdh, VM calls are actually on my todays TODO list
[17:18] <hggdh> RoAk, cool. I will just wait, then :-)
[17:19] <gbhambri> Do any one have idea abt putting filters in syslog.conf file ?
[17:29] <kirkland> RoAk: interesting
[17:29] <kirkland> hggdh: \o/
[17:29] <kirkland> RoAk: hggdh: there's only one more change i really need to make before lucid releases
[17:30] <kirkland> RoAk: hggdh: and that's a good way of determining the *next* release's code name
[17:30] <kirkland> RoAk: hggdh: such that 10.04 users will be able to testdrive 10.10, 11.04, 11.10, 12.04, etc.
[17:30] <kirkland> RoAk: hggdh: I'm going to ask the IS guys to create a file at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/iso.list which is just a find . -name "*.iso" or something
[17:31] <kirkland> RoAk: hggdh: but i'm open to other ideas ....
[17:31] <RoAk> kirkland, woulnd't it be just easier to change that in the settings?
[17:32] <RoAk> i mean in the config file?
[17:33] <kirkland> RoAk: ah, but 10.04 will be frozen; don't want to SRU that
[17:33] <kirkland> RoAk: but yes, that's way i put that in the config file a few weeks ago
[17:33] <kirkland> RoAk: it was hardcoded in the script :-o
[17:34] <RoAk> kirkland, just leave it like it is then, since everytime the user will have to change that in testdriverc
[17:36] <kirkland> RoAk: i was thinking something like this:
[17:36] <kirkland> wget -q -O- http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/MD5SUMS | head -n1 | sed "s/^.*\*//" | sed "s/\-.*$//"
[17:37] <kirkland> RoAk: could you translate that into python, and have it set it to lucid on exception? :-)
[17:37] <RoAk> kirkland, ok will do it today
[17:37] <kirkland> RoAk: thanks, don't you think that would be a bit more dynamic?
[17:38] <kirkland> RoAk: so that Lucid's testdrive version will work with MM, NN, OO, PP .. ?
[17:38] <kirkland> RoAk: without us having to change the code?
[17:38] <RoAk> kirkland, indeed
[17:39] <kirkland> RoAk: great, thanks; okay, i gotta run
[17:39] <RoAk> kirkland, ok enjoy the day :)
[17:39] <kirkland> RoAk: cheers ;-)
[17:39] <kirkland> RoAk: drop that one merge in before your refactor, if you don't mind ;-)
[17:39] <kirkland> RoAk: adios
[17:40] <RoAk> kirkland, will do
[18:18] <LinuxAdmin> hi guys
[18:19] <LinuxAdmin> I've got 2 servers for virtualization purposes
[18:19] <LinuxAdmin> I want to have the possibillity to migrate VMs between fisical hosts
[18:20] <hggdh> kirkland, I guess having a +1 seed file somewhere is a good idea
[18:20] <LinuxAdmin> but now I'm not sure if I use NFS ou DRBD
[18:20] <LinuxAdmin> wich do you advice?
[18:22] <hggdh> LinuxAdmin, you mean running VM1 on either hostA or hostB?
[18:23] <hggdh> and *not* copying the images back and forth?
[18:42] <jronnblom> Got Lucid to install to my new DELL by manually loading the driver from an USB stick. After the install I had to add the -server kernel instead of the -generic that was installed by default
[19:18] <sherr> jronnblom: That's good stuff. Did you have to mess with the initrd at all?
[19:18] <sherr> It seems strange that the server install starts up with the -generic kernel though?
[19:18] <jronnblom> nope, it detected the card without problem
[19:18] <jronnblom> mm, I agree
[19:30] <docta_v> is there a good open source job scheduler for linux?
[19:31] <dougsk> you mean like cron or at ?
[19:32] <VSpike> Does ubuntu server by default save and restores iptables?
[19:33] <klaas> VSpike reboot & look? :)
[19:35] <docta_v> dougsk: like a batch job manager
[19:35] <docta_v> when you have a bunch of different systems and need to coordinate and pause or retry failed jobs
[19:36] <dougsk> docta_v: yeah I can see that, .... uhmm tivoli :D nah teasing, not sure, if you find something let me know.
[19:37] <dougsk> docta_v: you might get rancid to do something like you want.
[19:38] <dougsk> docta_v: designed more for pulling switch configs inputting into cvs and implementing change tracking but you could modify the connectors to do at 2 minutes telinit 6 or something like that
[19:38] <sherr> VSpike: Ubuntu has a firewall system called "ufw" - see : man ufw (can save/load etc.)
[19:39] <docta_v> VSpike: firehol is pretty cool too if you need something more robust
[19:39] <sherr> docta_v: I have heard good things about gearman (http://gearman.org/index.php). In universe.
[19:41] <docta_v> yeah gearman is pretty cool
[19:43] <docta_v> i think we're going to have to do some in house stuff.. it's just a big mess of batch jobs right now
[19:44] <sherr> docta_v: what are the jobs doing?
[19:44] <docta_v> some of them use gearman now actually
[19:44] <dougsk> sherr: docta_v wow, that's quite cool, thanks for the tip.
[19:45] <docta_v> database stuff mainly.. this is a medium sized web company i'm dealing with
[19:45] <docta_v> some of it is fcron, some new stuff is gearman
[19:46] <docta_v> it would be nice to have some kind of dashboard where i could see everything but it's probably not feasible with the current state of things
[19:46] <sherr> Probably something you'll need to build :-)
[19:47] <sherr> fcron .. not heard of that before.
[19:47] <docta_v> it's like a slightly better cron
[19:47] <VSpike> klaas: that's an option, true :) It's my gateway machine so it's disruptive, but yeah, that's plan B.
[19:48] <VSpike> sherr/ docta_v : thx, I have iptables doing most of what I want - was just trying to get linux-igd working
[20:02] <VSpike> It would be nice if imap used http as a transport
[20:03] <VSpike> imap seems like something that would be handled better by a REST api
[20:04] <VSpike> I'm on a high latency link, and all the imap clients seem very cavalier about dropping connections and then re-opening when needed
[20:04] <VSpike> The whole login/check capability/get folder status can take 10 seconds or so
[20:04] <VSpike> And they do it every time I switch folder
[20:07] <docta_v> switch to gmail... that's my advice
[20:08] <docta_v> or google apps
[20:08] <docta_v> email is way too much of a pain imho
[20:09] <brontosaurusrex> is there something i can use as virus checker?
[20:09] <jpds> brontosaurusrex: clamscan
[20:09] <brontosaurusrex> mainly to check for win viruses?
[20:10] <jpds> brontosaurusrex: Yes.
[20:12] <brontosaurusrex> jpds: thanks, pain to setup or? (i would just like to scan few file folders once or twice a day)
[20:13] <jpds> brontosaurusrex: sudo apt-get install clamav clamav-data; clamscan <file-to-check>
[20:13] <jpds> That's about it.
[20:14]  * jpds → supper.
[20:14] <brontosaurusrex> i'd do a cron?
[20:24] <VSpike> docta_v: mm yeah, i do wonder about that. I quite like having control over my server though,
[21:16] <qman__> VSpike, pop3 has less overhead, but has the downside that it's a "deliver once and delete" system
[21:16] <qman__> even though it's slow, I like imap because I like to get my email on my desktop and my phone
[21:17] <qman__> and with it I can get all my messages with either, not just whichever happened to download the message first
[21:18] <qman__> but, if you only have one client downloading the messages for any one mailbox, pop3 will get the job done quicker
[22:14] <nosse1> I have a U. server running karmic, but has been upgraded from previous version. I find "scrollkepper" among the obsolete packages in aptitude. However, if I try to remove it I need to remove a real bunch (79!) of packages, including update-manager.
[22:16] <nosse1> I'm sceptical to remote the lot, but I cannot understand why scrollkeeper is among the obsoleted ones if it is req'd by the system
[22:21] <nosse1> Got it... rarian-compat is a replacement for scrollkeeper
[22:51] <sherr> nosse1: it's probably just an old "ubuntu-desktop" requirement. Aptitude can sometimes tell you why (aptitude why <package>)
[22:53] <nosse1> BTW: After the reinstall, the server lets the users log in before e2fsck is done checking the user's home drive
[23:32] <DormantOden> hey, just wondering if having about 50 pop3-login processes normal...?  xD
[23:49] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland, ping