bjsnidernvidia has now promoted 195.36.15 from pre to official00:19
LLStarkswhat's all this talk about ati open drivers now suddenly becoming good?00:40
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knittlweeeeeeee, working standby <309:48
abhinavhi. would this be a good place to get help regarding lucid (10.04) issues ?15:23
BUGabundoabhinav: unless specific X problems, no15:24
BUGabundoyou should try #ubuntu+1 15:24
abhinavBUGabundo: k, thanks15:24
abhinavWhat does the ubuntu-x-swat ppa provide that the non-ppa repos don't ? (in context of ATI radeon drivers)15:52
tjaaltonthere are no ati packages15:55
abhinavtjaalton: so I can comment it out ? I had it active during karmic, and it got disabled on update to lucid.15:55
abhinavtjaalton: ok, I see the following on the wiki/ppa page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati15:56
tjaaltonthat's from the main repo15:56
abhinavtjaalton: ok, thanks :) 15:57
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BUGabundohow is nvidia CUDA support in lucid?16:34
tjaaltonBUGabundo: included in nvidia-current16:37
tjaaltonthough only the driver portion of it16:38
tjaaltonthe sdk isn't packaged16:38
tjaaltonnor is the toolkit16:39
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Sarvattxf86Msg(X_WARNING, "PreInit returned NULL for \"%s\". This is usually harmless.\n", idev->identifier); ? :D17:07
Sarvattvs  xf86Msg(X_ERROR, "PreInit returned NULL for \"%s\"\n", idev->identifier);17:07
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Sarvattoh boy, it'd be nice to have something similar to ppa-purge in the release upgrade process, it just disables the PPA but if that still has newer than whats in lucid it sticks around17:44
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Sarvattok I have some issues with this - http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Hardware/X/ProprietaryDrivers#Upgrade%20From%20Manual%20Install%20Testing18:29
Sarvattthat is *never* going to succeed18:29
Sarvattthe drivers from nvidia.com require manual reinstallation every kernel abi update18:29
SarvattI'm really confused about https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/522328 and that test case on the wiki because it should never succeed as its written18:33
ubottuUbuntu bug 522328 in nvidia-graphics-drivers "[Test xpr-008] Lucid upgrade broke when upgrading from manually installed nvidia proprietary drivers" [High,Triaged]18:33
Sarvattbryceh: what do you think about the PreInit error string change I posted above?18:36
* bryceh looks18:37
brycehhmm, well we could redo the test I guess (or mark it known-fail)18:38
jcristauSarvatt: is that still necessary after we stop setting the driver to evdev for non-event devices?18:39
brycehthe basic thing it's trying to test is that if a user manually installs fglrx, then upgrades, the system is not going to end up upbootable18:39
tjaaltonjcristau: where is it handled? the evdev rule?18:48
SarvattfailsafeX should be the intended outcome and by all accounts it seems thats working correctly for ubuntu at least, I'm not sure about non-gdm though18:48
Sarvattjcristau: hmm good point, will check that since we're already not setting evdev for non event devices in lucid18:48
tjaaltonright, not seeing those errors anymore18:49
tjaaltonso it's done :)18:49
jcristauSarvatt: yeah i think i have that in git but not uploaded in sid18:49
tjaaltonit is18:50
Sarvattbtw jcristau did you see that we missed setting evdev by default for ID_INPUT_TABLET?18:50
jcristauSarvatt: ah?18:50
bjsniderSarvatt, you mean xpr-008 on this page: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Hardware/X/ProprietaryDrivers#Upgrade%20From%20Manual%20Install%20Testing18:50
* jcristau needs to run, can you fix it in git or file a bug?18:50
bjsniderwould never succeed?18:50
Sarvatti wasn't sure if you wanted that change in debian too but it seemed like an oversight, touchscreens that identify as tablet's (like resistive tablet overlays) that work right with evdev werent loading evdev18:51
Sarvattsure jcristau 18:51
Sarvattwacom needs locking down a bit to not load for every ID_INPUT_TABLET as well18:53
ubottuUbuntu bug 537801 in xf86-input-wacom "Touchscreen doesn't work after karmic->lucid upgrade" [Medium,Confirmed]18:55
tjaaltonI'll inform ron about it18:55
Sarvattgotta run too, doh18:55
tjaaltonheh, a colleague is pissed because his old laptop doesn't work with a newer X anymore (ISA bus in it) :)19:36
brycehtjaalton, heh19:52
brycehtjaalton, friday a bunch of us got together downtown, including kees and MostAwesomeGuy (Corbin)19:53
brycehkees had an old laptop with an ati card which didn't work right with KMS19:53
brycehso he spent the whole day with corbin banging his head on the bug19:53
brycehby the end of the day I go, "You know... you could get a new laptop for just $500..."19:54
tjaaltonbryceh: hehe :)20:01
bjsnidernvidia-settings control file in lucid still says "amd64 i386 lpia"20:02
tjaaltonbryceh: had a quick chat with ron about wacom. I'll prepare the new version and he'll pull it (with our changes) on top of his tree and releases it sometime next week20:03
brycehtjaalton, excellent20:18
brycehbjsnider, feel free to post a bug report about that.  tseliot may take a look.  extra points for including a debdiff :-)20:19
bjsnideri doubt i can include such a thing, since i have no idea what it is20:21
bjsniderhe has to release the new version anyway, so it's no big deal to change the control file to read "any" instead20:22
Sarvattjcristau: you're right, we dont need to shut up the PreInit returns NULL messages now that evdev only handles event devices, I thought we would since stuff like lid switch event devices gave the error but I guess they don't anymore :)20:47
Sarvatthmm xorg-server 1.7.6 failing to build, looks like that cursor patch ya threw in recently bryceh - http://launchpadlibrarian.net/41532730/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.xorg-server_2:1.7.6~git20100321%2Bserver-1.7-branch.c552ec12-0ubuntu0sarvatt_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz20:52
Sarvattare you sure thats still relevant?20:52
jcristauwhat patch?20:53
Sarvattthat was reported against hardy or intrepid, dont think its relevant anymore20:55
Sarvatt  * Add 109_fix-swcursor-crash.patch: Avoid dereferencing null pointer20:56
Sarvatt    while reloading cursors during resume.20:56
Sarvatt    (LP: #371405)20:56
bryceh109_fix-swcursor-crash.patch is the corrected patch21:08
Sarvatt<Sarvatt> ah bryceh, ya commited the bad patch to git, it should be if (!cursor_screen_priv || !cursor_screen_priv->isUp)21:08
Sarvattfixed it up in git21:09
Sarvatt109 was still wrong in git, was the same as 11021:10
brycehI fixed it before uploading it21:10
Sarvatti dont think its still relevant on 1.7 branch though, looks like its already accounted for going by http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/log/hw/xfree86/modes/xf86Cursors.c?h=server-1.7-branch21:10
Sarvattdunno why it was messed up in git still then, no biggie though21:12
Sarvattoops you got it too21:12
Sarvattsorry about that21:13
tjaaltonand now after all this, drop the patch?-)21:14
brycehtjaalton, for the -ati version, apt-cache madison produces the following:21:28
brycehproblem is that it's seeing two results for experimental and unstable21:29
brycehThese lines are being mixed up:21:29
brycehxserver-xorg-video-ati | 1:6.12.6-1 | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main Sources21:29
brycehxserver-xorg-video-ati | 1:6.9.0-1+lenny4 | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main Sources21:29
brycehThese are as well:21:29
brycehxserver-xorg-video-ati | 1:6.12.192-1 | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main Sources21:29
brycehxserver-xorg-video-ati | 1:6.12.99+git20100201.a887818f-1 | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main Sources21:29
brycehit's not clear to me how to have it select between these21:29
brycehprefer first one seen?21:30
jcristaulargest version21:33
tjaaltonsome archs are falling back, that's why there are several versions listed21:39
tjaaltonbryceh: btw, the list was last updated on 18th21:40
Sarvattoh looks like that cursor patch IS still relevant on 1.7 branch (and master) http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=50791621:55
ubottuDebian bug 507916 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "xorg: Xorg segfault on swsusp resume" [Important,Open]21:55
Sarvatti'm going to add http://sarvatt.com/downloads/patches/0001-dix-be-more-verbose-when-we-run-out-of-opcodes.patch to edgers too, it's got me curious21:55
Consul_Falxhello folks21:58
Consul_Falxam using 64bit Kubuntu Lucid beta1 on a centrino1duo laptop with ATI radeon mobility X1450 shit ...21:58
Consul_Falxactually, all things work fine, but the graphics from the very beginning is slightly but visibly distracted21:59
Consul_Falxany advice how to configure that?21:59
Consul_Falx(the system is on defaults, XOrg 7.5, using radeon open driver)21:59
brycehtjaalton, manually updated for now22:00
tjaaltonbryceh: okie22:01
Sarvatti dont think anyone but you knows what you mean by distracted there Consul_Falx :D what do you mean?22:01
Consul_FalxSarvatt: flickery, snowy or like that ...22:02
Sarvattlike while the ubuntu logo splash screen is on the screen?22:03
Sarvattand goes away when the KDE loading screen comes up?22:03
Sarvattit changes the display 3 times during boot and looks pretty fugly now especially if you boot fast and use KDE where you dont get the smooth plymouth-X transition, i dont know what you mean by flickery or snowy though22:04
SarvattVGACON comes up with the fsck messages, then console-setup changes the fonts on vgacon, then drmfb loads and some text goes on there sometimes before the splash is displayed on that22:05
Consul_FalxSarvatt: it started upon the first splash used during the install process, now it flickers all time, even if a tty without xserver running is open ...22:06
Sarvattand thats only up for a second or so unless you have to enter a password or wait for a fsck if you dont use GDM22:06
Sarvattok, run ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-ati and put [RV515] in the title if you don't mind22:07
Sarvattwe need a bunch of logs and that'll add them to a bug report automatically22:08
brycehattach photos to the bug to show what's going on22:08
Consul_Falxand, btw, the fsck occurs too and fails22:08
brycehConsul_Falx, actually if you can reproduce it on regular ubuntu, not kubuntu, that would help too22:08
Sarvattare you using multiple monitors?22:08
Consul_Falxbryceh: I suppose the flickering will not show in screenshots22:08
Consul_Falxno, I have only one set up by default during the installation22:09
Consul_Falxand I cannot afford installing another clean ubuntu distro, bryceh22:09
tjaaltonjust install ubuntu-desktop22:10
tjaaltonit'll pull gnome22:10
Consul_Falxvu@ethereal-laptop:~$ ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-ati22:11
Consul_Falxkfmclient(2094)/kdecore (KSycoca) KSycocaPrivate::openDatabase: Trying to open ksycoca from  "/var/tmp/kdecache-vu/ksycoca4"22:11
Consul_FalxLaunched ok, pid = 209822:11
Consul_Falx: Fatal IO error: client killed22:11
tjaaltonkde fail22:11
brycehConsul_Falx, well, understand my focus is ubuntu so bugs against other distros are not a priority for me to look at22:11
Consul_Falxbryceh: well, I do definitely understand... I will get down to playing with this later since there's no obvious simple solution to this and I have things to do -.-22:13
Consul_Falxso long, people22:16
kklimondamay problems with user switching be related to nouveau or should I search higher in the stack? When I login to the guest session everything is fine but when I get back I have dark screen with mouse cursor and I can't switch to ther VTs (or rather I have no login prompt on them)23:05
RAOFLogs might make it easier to determine what's happening.23:13
Sarvatti guess mesa-common-dev should depend on libdrm-dev now? Requires.private: libdrm >= 2.4.15 in dri.pc installed there23:41
jcristauthe only user of afaik is the server, afaik23:42
jcristauthe only user of dri.pc is the server, afaik23:43

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