 i am trying to connect from one xfce desktop to another by running ssh user@host -Y xfce4-session
 but nothing happens
 except there appear some messages about services already running
 any ideas how that could work ?
 i can run an xterm there
 but thats a bit low end
[00:26] <knome> !pastebin | roflor, pastebin please for multiple line pastes:
[00:27] <rofl0r> i know knome...
[00:28] <rofl0r> any ideas about my issue ?
[00:29] <rofl0r> do i have to install kde there to get a desktop ?
[00:29] <knome> nope. why do you run xfce-session?
[00:29] <psycho_oreos> why not run something like vnc?
[00:30] <rofl0r> vnc is a bit slow and hard to configure
[00:30] <knome> rofl0r, as psycho_oreos suggested, vnc would do the trick. x11vnc is a very simple command-line utility.
[00:30] <psycho_oreos> vnc isn't that hard to configure, I got it working in a lot less effort as opposed to trying to implement xdmcp
[00:31] <rofl0r> i usually connect to xfce4-session with cygwin, or from mac os x... work like a charm
[00:31] <rofl0r> just from xfce to xfce seems to be an issue
[01:35] <raevol> hey so xubuntu isn't going to jump on board with all the interface retardedness that's happening in ubuntu for lucid, right?
[01:35] <raevol> and if it does all the settings will still be available to change things back?
[04:22]  * alucard_evil is here on the Xubuntu 10.04 Beta 1 Live CD & loving it! :D
[04:54] <Balsaq> good morning to all of you who reside here, in the tranquil binary rainforest known as...Xubuntu!
[11:22] <awake1> hi, i want to set a delay timer for the terminal that launches at startup
[11:22] <awake1> how may i do this?
[11:23] <psycho_oreos> you could probably issue slee <n> && <command>
[11:23] <psycho_oreos> sleep*
[11:25] <awake1> it doesn't work, nothing happens
[11:26] <awake1> i also tried to place a .sh file in ~/.config/autostart/ and that didnt seem to work either, not sure if i did it correctly
[11:26] <awake1> chmod +x the file as well. got that was from some guide
[11:30] <awake1> anyway the reason for all this is because i set the terminal to be semi-transparent, but the one that starts up after logging in is opaque
[11:30] <awake1> same with wbar, i wanted to delay that as well
[11:55] <awake1> okay i got it working, in the startup session box, the command i used pointed to the .sh file
[15:22] <Omar87> Hi all.
[15:23] <Omar87> For some reason, the desktop panels refuse to show up. What could be the problem?
[15:27] <charlie-tca> ubuttu, tell Omar87 about !panels
[15:27] <charlie-tca> ubottu, tell Omar87 about !panels
[15:28] <Omar87> charlie-tca, it ubottu is having his break time. :P
[15:29] <charlie-tca> Maybe
[15:29] <charlie-tca> !panels
[15:29] <charlie-tca> Maybe I said it wrong?
[15:30] <Omar87> charlie-tca, thanks!
[15:30] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[15:30] <Omar87> ubottu, I know you are a robot, but even robots need hugs every once and then! :-)
[15:31]  * charlie-tca thinking that ubottu hates Xubuntu?
[15:35] <jussi01> Omar87: ubottu is a female. ;)
[15:36] <jussi01> charlie-tca: and ubottu doesnt hate xubuntu, she just doesnt like you :P
[15:37] <charlie-tca> Thanks for the information
[15:37]  * jussi01 hugs charlie-tca
[15:37] <Omar87> jussi01, I see. :)
[15:37] <jussi01> !gender | Omar87
[15:42] <takamarou> Hi all.  I just installed xubuntu 9.10 on a Compaq laptop.  Everything seems to be working fine, but I can not get the wifi enabled.  There is a button on the laptop that enables the network card(or it did - in windows), but pressing it doesn't seem to do anything in xubuntu.  ANy ideas how to fix this?
[15:43] <charlie-tca> make sure it is enabled before shutting down windows?
[15:43] <charlie-tca> !wireless | takamarou
[15:43] <takamarou> windows is uninstalled, as of now.
[15:52] <spaceraver> bazhang.. is there any way to boot from the cd but use a usb stick as install source...
[16:56] <Planetary> hey guys, How do I change my ATI driver. I wish the graphic would come back from 7.04. What do I use to edit teh xorg.conf file. thanks
[16:57] <Planetary> also I there is a printer that I want to work and I cant seem to get it to run. its a HP 710c. I read somewhere that some code needs to be change, not sure how to do that. Thanks
[17:00] <Planetary> Ok I found the command an file to change for the printer but how do I change it in xubuntu?
[17:01] <Planetary> gedit is for ubuntu right?
[17:11] <slow-motion> hi
[17:13] <Planetary> hey
[17:15] <charlie-tca> Planetary: you do know that 7.04 is very old, and no longer supported, right?
[17:15] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu uses mousepad for editing files.
[17:15] <Planetary> yep, it was my first install years ago
[17:16] <Planetary> so. 'sudo mousepad'
[17:16] <charlie-tca> You really should consider installing the current version, especially since the new LTS will release in April. LTS versions have support and security updates for three years
[17:17] <Planetary> oh all my computers are 9.04 or higher. I just remembered that thing in 7.04. thanks
[17:38] <waxman> evening
[18:53] <challman> I've been using Xubuntu for many months on my hp dv9008nr without problem. Then recently, I believe after an update, my wireless has been having trouble. I started a PING to my wireless AP and saw response times range from milliseconds to 30 seconds. Also, I would receive "ping: sendmsg: No buffer space available "
[18:55] <challman> But if I run another distro, I don't see any of this behavior
[18:55] <franky_> hi, i install xubuntu to my old pc, but my videos on you tube run slow. the graphics are ok. any ideas?
[18:55] <knome> challman, which version are you on?
[18:55] <knome> franky_, how old pc? how much ram?
[18:55] <charlie-tca> franky_: not enough ram or video ram?
[18:56] <challman> 9.10
[18:56]  * charlie-tca is slow again
[18:56] <challman> 9.10 with all the latest patches
[18:56] <franky_> i have 512 on ram, it has an integrated video card
[18:56] <knome> challman, did you upgrade from 9.04, or just regular updates?
[18:57] <challman> Hmmmm, not sure if it was a fresh install or an upgrade. I've been running xubuntu since 9.04... I don't recall, sorry
[18:58] <charlie-tca> franky_: it is using some of that 512 for video.
[18:58] <franky_> knome, i have 512 on ram, its an amd 1500+ processor
[18:58] <knome> challman, i mean, just before it stooped working, did you do regular updates or upgraded from 9.04 ?
[18:58] <charlie-tca> slow cpu, low ram
[18:59] <franky_> i think so. when i enter cmos i give some options on video usage
[18:59] <charlie-tca> yupo
[19:00] <challman> It had been running on 9.10 for some time therefore it wasn't a recent upgrade. I stay on top of the regular patches. It had been running fine for months, but started showing problems within the past two weeks I believe
[19:00] <charlie-tca> try increasing the ram to be used for video, but I think a dedicated video card would give a good improvement for that.
[19:01] <franky_> i was expecting no problems with xubuntu because on xp the video was fine
[19:01] <challman> here's my system hardware info... http://pastebin.com/g0n3Y00f
[19:02] <knome> charlie-tca, do you know about challman's problem?
[19:02] <charlie-tca> no, I am terrible at wireless
[19:02] <challman> i thought my Broadcom was going bad (it had in the past and I replaced it). So, I booted to Mepis 8.5 (dual boot). I'm on it now and it works flawless.
[19:03] <challman> I guess I could do a clean install, but I just hate losing all my customizations.  :|
[19:09] <franky_> Knome_: any video card suggestions??
[19:09] <knome> franky_, nope, sorry
[19:09] <franky_> so u think the video is the problem?
[19:10] <challman> i have a suggestion
[19:10] <challman> for franky......
[19:10] <franky_> my hard drive is 6.5 gb, its an old hard drive, u think it has something to do with the video slow performance?
[19:11] <franky_> go ahead challman
[19:12] <challman> if you have the harddrive space, I suggest mounting the tmpfs (I believe /tmp) to a ram disk (I don't recall how much ram you have). when you stream content, it gets stored to tmp while it's being rendered. I've noticed an improvement in video on my older machines when I did this
[19:12] <challman> if you have the memory**** sorry
[19:12] <franky_> i have 512 on ram
[19:13] <challman> instead of storing it to harddrive (which is slower than ram) if you store it temporarily in ram, then it may run faster
[19:13] <challman> hold on, brb
[19:16] <challman> my wife won't get off her computer, however I beleive I used 128MB for the ram disk
[19:17] <challman> yeah, I used 128MB ram
[19:17] <franky_> ok, i was google it and look simple to do
[19:18] <franky_> can u tell how to star.
[19:18] <challman> give me a sec
[19:18] <franky_> i was reading this topic,  http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=16450
[19:18] <challman> i have the notes on a Google wave. hold on
[19:20] <challman> #1 create ramdisk:: /sbin/mke2fs -q -m 0 /dev/ram0 ..... #2 mount it::  /bin/mount -t tmpfs -o size=128m /dev/ram0 /tmp ...... #3 (hold on)
[19:22] <challman> #3 mounts it every time you boot. I'm still looking around for that. give me some time. However, in the interim, you can create and mount /tmp to a ramdisk and see if it yields any improvement in your videos
[19:23] <franky_> ok, thanks. on the instruction you just send, what it meas the .......??
[19:24] <challman> sorry, I used the '...........' just to separate the commands.
[19:24] <challman> nothing mroe
[19:24] <challman> more*
[19:24] <franky_> ok. thanks for your  help. i preaciate
[19:27] <challman> memory starts to suck when you get older. i'm still looking for the final step. bear with me
[19:31] <franky_> im google it, to se if i can run it every time i turn on the pc
[19:32] <challman> did you try it already to see if it made any improvement?
[19:32] <franky_> no, im finishing i fresh install again., because i messup the last time. jeje
[19:33] <franky_> right now im in a laptop, with ubuntu. yeah!
[19:36] <challman> ahah! got it!!!
[19:38] <challman> take those two commands and place them in the /etc/rc.local file before the exit command near the bottom of the file
[19:38] <knome> challman, :)
[19:39] <challman> every time you boot, it will create and mount /tmp to a ramdisk which should improve video. I was able to get my computer to go from on streamed HD youtube video to three HD youtube videos
[19:39] <challman> one streamed*
[19:41] <challman> another thing you can do to improve overall performance us to reduce the number of consoles that most distro's install/configure as a default
[19:43] <franky_> ok
[19:43] <challman> most I've seen configure four. I've never needed more than two. so I remove them. see this link  http://pastebin.com/MSE9J74D
[19:43] <franky_> i will check all in about 15 min. the install is allmost done
[19:44] <franky_> it has two consoles for default i think
[19:44] <challman> edit /etc/inittab and comment out 3-6
[19:45] <challman> oic, well then that's good. it saves on processor and ram
[19:47] <challman> if you don't have an inittab, then comment out all the lines in /etc/init/  tty3.conf - tty6.conf  files
[19:47] <challman> sorry, most distro's I've seen configure 6 consoles. I said 4 earlier  :)
[19:48] <challman> make sense?
[19:49] <franky_> yes. i think. im  gonna star first with the steps that u send me. give me 1 minute
[20:56] <WASasquatch> Hey, everyone.
[20:56] <WASasquatch> How is everyone's first day of Spring going?
[20:57] <WASasquatch> Hah, at least in the US and Canada it is.
[20:58] <WASasquatch> :(
[20:58] <WASasquatch> Quiet...
[21:00] <WASasquatch> Hello, RobinKing.
[21:00] <robinking623> WASasquatch: hi
[21:01] <knome> !ot | WASasquatch
[21:02] <Sysi> if you want really active, #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:02] <WASasquatch> So anyways, I have a question regarding my installation of Xubuntu.
[21:02] <slow-motion> n8
[21:04] <WASasquatch> When I attach my Belkin F5D8053 N Wireless adapter, it is recognized immediately.
[21:04] <WASasquatch> However, when I connect to my router, I am unable to surf the internet. Also, after a minute or so, it seems it gets disconnected, if ever connected to begin with.
[21:05] <WASasquatch> Obviously Windows XP can connect and surf as I am talking with you fine people.
[21:05] <robinking623> WASasquatch: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-karmic
[21:06] <robinking623> WASasquatch: then your problem will be gone.
[21:06] <robinking623> WASasquatch: but are you running 910?
[21:06] <WASasquatch> Alrighty, let me write this down and reboot. I'll be back to give a thanks via Pidgin if all is well.
[21:06] <WASasquatch> Indeed, I am.
[21:06] <WASasquatch> x86
[21:06] <robinking623> WASasquatch: then just do that. it works by my laptop
[21:07] <WASasquatch> On a Toshiba Satellite 1905-S301, pretty old, get some graphical problems. Namely a rounded off glitched out box on the upper right of my desktop. It dissapears when I highlight over it.
[21:08] <WASasquatch> Is that a gadget which I cannot see due to graphical problems?
[21:09] <WASasquatch> rectangle actually, not a box.
[21:11] <WASasquatch> I'm using Xubuntu because of it's desktop environment. Ubuntu unfortunately has many graphical problems, and eventually becomes unresponsive.
[21:11] <robinking623> WASasquatch: can you just make a screenshot for your second question?
[21:11] <WASasquatch> Indeed, I'll try. I'll be back.
[21:13] <WASasquatch> I got too excited and exited out without saving that command. May I get a paste?
[21:13] <WASasquatch> Need to turn Pidgin logging on. :P
[21:13] <robinking623> WASasquatch: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-karmic
[21:14] <WASasquatch> Thank you so much.
[21:17] <robinking623> WASasquatch: you re welcome
[21:46] <WASasquatch> It appears the command "sudo app-get install linux-backports-modules-karmic" doesn't exist. This is confusing me.
[21:46] <eXpl0i7> apt-get
[21:46] <eXpl0i7> not app
[21:46] <eXpl0i7> xD
[21:46] <WASasquatch> Now I did install it under windows, allowing it 5 gigs of install space. Could the packages not be installed? Should I give it more space?
[21:46] <WASasquatch> LMAO
[21:47] <WASasquatch> Right, so now I just feel like a dumbass.
[21:47] <psycho_oreos> probably aptitude is a little better
[21:47] <WASasquatch> *Shamefully restarts again...* lmao
[21:57] <WASasquatch> So, should I give Xubuntu more space. Command worked, however the package doesn't exist.
[22:00] <psycho_oreos> probably add more verbosity
[22:09] <WASasquatch> How do you go about that. Sorry, I'm new to Linux. My Linux-savy friend is currently at work and unavailable, and I wanted to get down to learning this stuff.
[22:40] <franky_> hello, i install xubuntu to an old pc. 512 ram, 6 gb hard drive. video card integrated on motherboard, amd 1500+. runs ok, but video freeze a little bit, when im watchin videos on youtube, any options>?
[23:23] <trinikrono> hey guys
[23:24] <trinikrono> so why is this not the default desktop lol
[23:24] <knome> xubuntu? who knows.
[23:25] <psycho_oreos> probably xfce isn't seen as mature enough compared to gnome
[23:26] <knome> xfce also has quite a bit smaller developer community than gnome, and do not have a time-based release schedule
[23:26] <trinikrono> point
[23:26] <trinikrono> i was wondering
[23:27] <trinikrono> how come it has so little members in the launchpad user group
[23:27] <trinikrono> i only saw something like
[23:27] <trinikrono> just now
[23:27] <knome> what is "it" ?
[23:27] <trinikrono>  388 members
[23:27] <trinikrono> lol
[23:27] <trinikrono> is that really it?
[23:28] <psycho_oreos> you have yet to answer the question
[23:28] <knome> there are maybe 10 xfce developers, if even that.
[23:28] <knome> the launchpad groups are giving you totally different figures
[23:31] <trinikrono> so is it that
[23:31] <trinikrono> the users just dont join the launchpad user group?
[23:31] <knome> yup, pretty much.
[23:31] <knome> we definitely have more than 388 users.
[23:31] <trinikrono> aha
[23:31] <trinikrono> i really do hope so
[23:31] <knome> don't know the numbers, but we do.
[23:58] <Appetite> what is the xubuntu equivelent of the ubuntu menu system->prefs?
[23:58] <Appetite> nevermind, found it.