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tzuflihello04:19
ibuclawo/04:21
tzuflii am trying to install maya in ubuntu ...i've read the instalation guidelines, and i believe that i installed everithing i would need to proceed ....but every time I try this it gives a couple or errors:04:22
tzuflisudo rpm -ivh AWCommon-11.5-19.i686.rpm Maya2009_0_64-2009.0-101.x86_64.rpm --force-debian04:22
tzuflierror: Failed dependencies:04:22
tzufli/bin/sh is needed by AWCommon-11.5-19.i68604:22
tzufli/bin/sh is needed by Maya2009_0_64-2009.0-101.x86_6404:22
tzufliany ideas how to make this work? I would apreciate it ...have been trying all day long04:22
ibuclawrpm is for Fedora/RedHat-like distributions04:23
ibuclawUbuntu uses dpkg04:23
ibuclawyou'll have to convert the package using 'alien'04:23
tzuflithe installer kept telling me that but i don't really know what it means04:24
tzufliis that a software to convert rpm to dpkg?04:24
ibuclawyes - sorta kinda... :)04:25
ibuclawit's not the cleanest thing in the world, but it is suitably efficient04:25
ibuclawtzufli, usage would be:04:25
tzufliis a command that i have to execute on the maya rpm file04:25
ibuclawfakeroot alien -d AWCommon-11.5-19.i686.rpm04:25
ibuclawfakeroot alien -d Maya2009_0_64-2009.0-101.x86_64.rpm04:26
ibuclawtzufli, and that should create two new .deb files for you.04:26
tzufliin the same folder i supose04:27
tzufliand the debian files will be executable?04:27
ibuclawtzufli, via command-line, you will be able to install them using dpkg -i04:29
ibuclawrather than rpm -ivh04:29
tzufliohhh04:29
tzuflii will try it right now :)04:29
tzufliplease excuse my stupid questions....but i am kinda new to linux...i use it at work ...but there... it's all set up by the admin04:30
tzufliand thank you for the help04:30
tzuflifakeroot alien -d AWCommon-11.5-19.i686.rpm04:31
tzufli/usr/bin/fakeroot: line 176: alien: command not found04:31
tzuflii am guessing that i have to install some library to get this to work?04:32
duanedesignmorning all11:22
Silver_Fox_Hello11:23
duanedesignhey  there Silver_Fox_11:24
duanedesigngood weekend?11:24
Silver_Fox_No worse than usual.  How was yours ?11:25
duanedesignwe've had the third major snow storm in as many months11:25
duanedesignso stayed in all weekend11:25
Silver_Fox_Is everyone okay?11:28
duanedesignthere have been about a half dozen deaths mostly car accidents and elderly people succumbing to exposure. All my family is ok thank godness.11:32
Silver_Fox_That is some relief.11:37
Flare183What's the default buffer size for Audacious?12:13
ndefontenayHi everyone12:37
Silver_Fox_Hello12:40
ndefontenayHiya12:54
ndefontenayhi14:15
ndefontenayI should write a script to say hi every once in a while14:16
ndefontenaynever know14:16
leoquant/nick/the_undertaker14:16
leoquantoops14:16
ndefontenayhi leo14:17
leoquanthi14:17
ndefontenayhey you're a seedling for the unanswered questions tonight right?14:17
leoquantuh, i missed something here14:18
ndefontenaylol14:18
ndefontenaywell maybe not then x)14:18
Silver_Fox_Hi swoody  :)14:46
nigelbhey Silver_Fox_, swoody :)14:46
swoodyhello Silver_Fox_ and nigelb :)14:58
swoodyhow are you two doing?14:58
nigelbdoing good.  had a tiring monday14:58
swoodynigelb: I know that feeling ;)14:59
nigelbheya PabloRubianes16:11
PabloRubianeshey nigelb16:11
romulus_hey16:22
romulus_i'm looking for help16:22
romulus_i can't custmize my gnome16:23
romulus_i try to install a gdm theme16:23
romulus_anyone can help me ?16:23
Silver_Fox_Which version of ubuntu are you using romulus_  ?16:25
romulus_the last one i guess16:25
romulus_9.1016:25
romulus_karmic16:25
Silver_Fox_system -> administation -> login window16:26
Silver_Fox_Then click local tab16:26
Silver_Fox_You should see a button labeled "Add" on the right16:27
Silver_Fox_Find your theme (should be a tar.gz file)16:27
romulus_i dont see any tab16:27
romulus_i can only choose to connect auto16:27
romulus_maybe it's because i already changed the appearence16:30
romulus_with gtk theme changer16:30
Silver_Fox_Hmm,  okay,  a thought:16:31
Silver_Fox_Try this System > Preferences > Appearance > Theme16:31
Silver_Fox_Then choose install and find where you downloaded your theme. Then click okay16:31
romulus_it doesn' work16:33
romulus_should i extract the file ?16:33
Silver_Fox_No,  you should not need to.16:34
romulus_the file is .gz and not tar.gz16:35
romulus_but this is a gmd theme16:35
romulus_gdm*16:35
hobgoblinromulus_: hi - theming in gdm changed in karmic (and looks like lucid is the same )16:37
hobgoblingksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties16:37
hobgoblinshould open the theme window for gdm16:37
hobgoblinit looks very similar to the normal one - shoudl be able to drag and drop the theme onto there and it install16:38
romulus_ok but there is no special tab for the login screen ?16:43
romulus_i'm happy with my current theme but i want to remove the old login sreen16:44
romulus_i'm lost with gdm compiz gtk ... is there a how to i can read ?16:46
romulus_ifound nothing clear on google16:46
hobgoblinno - there is no tab for the login screen afaik16:46
hobgoblinit all changed in karmic and in lucid too16:47
romulus_so i drag and drop and there is no confirmation16:47
hobgoblinromulus_: gdm compiz and gtk are all different things16:55
romulus_they are desktop engines ?16:57
benny1Hello I wonder if someone can give a little assistance with VLC Media player?17:27
benny1I have somehow hidden it completely. If i right click an .mp3 it will play it, but I see no window or control options... very frustrating!17:29
benny1anyone??17:30
Silver_Fox_Alt + Tab17:32
Silver_Fox_Is VLC shown in the running applications ?17:32
benny1If i look in system monitor it is17:34
swoodybenny1: is it minimized to your notification area? There may be an orange traffic-cone icon there?17:36
benny1but alt + tab has no active window apart from one labelled " VLC (X11 Output)"17:36
swoody(notification area, not the taskbar)17:36
benny1Which is the notification area?17:36
swoodythe area with your sound icon, network icon, etc.17:37
swoodyright next to the clock17:37
benny1There is nothing there apart from Rhythmbox which I just closed in case it was hiding something17:37
swoodyhmm...17:37
swoodybenny1: and you right-click on the file and select 'open with VLC' correct?17:38
benny1I have tried uninstalling and completely removing VLC but to no avail, exactly the same issue. it was working not half an hour ago!17:38
benny1Yeah open with VLC, I can play a song, infact I can open many instance until I get a cacophony of simultaneous songs, but still no interface to actually control anythng17:39
swoodybenny1: well, if you don't mind losing any VLC settings, I would try closing VLC (via system monitor) and delete your ~/.config/vlc folder17:40
swoodythen when you try again, it should open VLC with default settings17:41
benny1OK I have closed all the instances where is the /.config folder located ?17:42
swoody/home/yourname/.config/vlc17:43
swoodyyou can hit ctrl+H to show hidden folders17:43
swoodyi.e. the .config folder17:43
swoody(if you're using gnome?)17:43
benny1OK I will give this a go.17:43
benny1Do I delete the folder or just the contents?17:44
swoodybenny1: either one, it should recreate the folder and/or it's contents if it's not there17:44
benny1Should I reboot before restarting VLC or go right ahead?17:45
swoodybenny1: shouldn't need to reboot, just try opening a file w/ VLC again17:45
swoody(as long as you made sure there weren't any other instances of VLC running in system-monitor)17:46
benny1Success!!! thank you swoody17:46
swoodybenny1: excellent, that's good to hear :)17:47
swoodyyeah, must have enabled some kind of setting that was throwing it off :/17:47
benny1I wonder woudl you also know how to get the ghastly green and black vertical stripes when I go full screen to stop, i guess it can't be an issue with codecs as it works great windowed.  but something to do with stretching to fir a HD tv on ps3 running ubuntu?17:48
swoodyhmm...17:49
benny1IM not sure where I'm going wrong but can't make the display options match my tv..17:50
swoodymaybe try going to Video>Aspect Ratio and trying various options there?17:51
swoodyor possibly try Video>Deinterlace and try some changes there17:51
benny1Yeah deinterlace helped, can I make my chosen setting a default?17:52
swoodybenny1: yeah, you should be able to. Go to Tools>Preferences17:53
swoodyand then on the left-hand side, click on Video, and there's a box there for deinterlacing17:53
benny1Thanks!!!17:53
swoodythen be sure to save, and close VLC17:53
swoodyand try it out :)17:53
swoodybenny1: it's np :)17:54
Silver_Fox_Goodbye18:08
christine11hi all...19:12
pedro3005hi christine1119:12
christine11goin' nuts here trying to work on an assignment and new to ubuntu19:12
christine11hi pedro300519:12
pedro3005christine11, need any help?19:12
christine11absolutely pedro300519:12
christine11petra.. thanks19:13
pedro3005i'll see what I can do.. ask away19:13
christine11yes, I'm trying to create a shell script and am really really NEW at it19:13
christine11it's for a class I'm taking19:13
pedro3005i've seen better people at bash scripting than me19:13
christine11and I have some background in other scripting - such as java...19:13
pedro3005that means i'm a complete utter idiot at bash scripting....19:14
christine11well... it's not even the scripting that has me hung up at the moment19:14
pedro3005geirha, i think i've seen you do some bash, care to help?19:14
christine11it's more creating the file and getting it into my VMPlayer to run it19:14
pedro3005christine11, oh19:14
christine11I know I'm supposed to be able to use vi as a text editor, correct?19:14
christine11but using ubuntu in the player, well... I'm just lost19:15
pedro3005christine11, yes.. don't see why you wouldn't use VIm but you can use VI19:15
christine11that's a good point pedro3005.... how would I use VIm instead of vi?19:15
christine11(hates being the newby)19:16
pedro3005christine11, type 'vim' on a terminal19:16
pedro3005:)19:16
christine11slapping my forehead19:16
christine11lol19:16
pedro3005it's okay19:16
christine11okkk... well I'm just panicking since this project is due tonight19:16
pedro3005don't panic19:17
christine11let me see how far I can get... it's so comforting to just know you are here!!!19:17
christine11I'll be back in a few if I fail miserably... ok? ;)19:17
pedro3005christine11, ok19:18
christine11tc cya and thanks for understanding19:18
hobgoblinhi phillw20:08
pedro3005hi hobgoblin20:09
hobgoblinhi pedro300520:10
pedro3005hobgoblin, how are you?20:12
hobgoblinnot too bad ty :)20:12
hobgoblinpedro3005: and you?20:13
pedro3005hobgoblin, good, good20:14
pedro3005hobgoblin, physics test tomorrow20:14
hobgoblin:)20:15
pedro3005hobgoblin, yes, :) hoping for a total, like math.. probably not though20:17
hobgoblinhe he he20:18
hobgoblinhi Orby20:18
Orbyhi :)20:18
pedro3005hobgoblin, math is a joke... the test was about venn diagrams and groups.. the teacher today talked slowly about stupid linear functions.. i'm like what the fuck20:20
hobgoblin:(20:20
pedro3005hobgoblin, :/20:20
pombredaHowdy: I have a problem with a 8.04 LTS install. It was orinally a stock 8.04.1. I did apg-get20:30
pombredaupdate then upgrade20:30
pombredait updated t 8.04.4 with this message:20:30
pombredaThe following packages have been kept back:  bind9-host dnsutils libbind9-30 libisccc30 libisccfg30 linux-image-server linux-server20:30
pombredasudo apt-get install bind9-host linux-image-server linux-server got it to install also these "kept back" packages20:31
pombredaafter this a reboot: the system does not reboot20:31
pombredathere was a screen with L 99 99 99 99 99 9920:32
pombredasome research showed this could be lilo propblem.20:32
pombredaI booted with the orinal CD in rescue mode20:32
pombredaand tried /sbin/lilo20:32
pombredasame problem20:32
pombredaatm, I have the system booted with the rescue CD, sheel started on my original root disk.20:33
pombredaall the disks seem ok, and the content is there. but it does not boot at all.20:33
Flare183pombreda: Um lilo isn't supported anymore tho... I don't think...20:33
Flare183!lilo20:33
Votebotan alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.20:33
pombredaI have no idea if lilo or grub was installed.20:33
Flare183cd /boot && ls20:34
pombredaI used the standard install on 8.04.1 from then.20:34
Flare183do you see a grub folder?20:34
Flare183yup, you've got grub most likely then20:34
Flare183That is, unless you've reconfigured lilo to replace grub20:34
pombredano grub folder in /boot20:34
Flare183yup, you've reconfigured it :/20:35
pombredaI woudl not know the first thing on how to configure lilo :D20:35
Flare183sudo apt-get install grub20:35
pombredaok20:35
Flare183tell lilo to get the mess outta your computer xD20:35
pombreda Flare183: sudo apt-get install grub : done20:36
Flare183um did it remove lilo?20:36
pombredahow do I get rid of lilo beyond this? and noy hose my drives/partitions?20:36
Flare183sudo apt-get remove --purge lilo20:37
pombredayou understand I am booted with the rescue cd right?20:37
Flare183crap20:38
Flare183>><20:38
Flare183>.<*20:38
Flare183pombreda: I forgot >.<20:38
pombreda? not sure I parse :P20:39
Flare183do you know how to mount your main root filesystem that's on your HD(S)?20:39
pombredathis is done20:39
pombredathis is mounted20:39
Flare183cd to that folder and look in /boot20:39
pombredayes this is what I did20:40
Flare183Alright, then do this20:40
pombredaI have 2 linux images there: the old 8.04.1 and the new 8.04.420:40
Flare183Well don't worry about the images, I guess.20:41
Flare183hmmm20:41
pombredaie initrd.img-2.6.24-19-server (8.0.4.1) and initrd.img-2.6.24-27-server (the one that I installed above20:41
pombredaok20:41
Flare183bah if I could ssh up to the server, I could do it for you >.<20:42
Flare183But like, its hard to explain how to fix it20:42
Flare183What I would do is install grub onto your main root fs20:43
Flare183but the way grub looks at the HD's is whack20:43
pombredahum... let me see. the server is in rescue mode, but a buddy did start and sshd there, that is how I am accessing it atm, but through a few other hosts20:43
Flare183Set  up images to boot from DEVICE. DEVICE must be a GRUB device (e.g.``(hd0,1)'').20:44
pombredaok20:44
Flare183That comes from grub-setup's man page20:44
Flare183If you'd let me ssh up to it, I might be able to fix it for you20:45
pombredalet me see if that is possible20:45
Flare183pombreda: Alright.20:45
pombredaFlare183: I think I should be able to get an ssh access. should take 20 minutes to get help for this. will you still be there then?20:53
Flare183pombreda: yeah20:53
pombredabtw thx ++ for taking the time to help :)20:53
pombredaFlare183: thx mucho, brb as soon as the config is there20:54
Flare183ok20:56
bennyHello everyone, are there any ipod users out there that can offer a little advice to a linux newbie?21:01
Hellowbenny: What's your problem?21:04
bennySpecifically, is there any software available to backup an ipod on linux? I have gtkpod, but it's usefulness in making a backup of my ipod is pretty limited as it will lump everything together in one folder, I would like to split everything up by/artist/album/ I have used a program called copy trans manager under windows to do this previously but can't find anything similar for linux21:04
HellowThe only things Google are returning relevant to gtkpod only.21:05
Hellows/returning relevant/returning are relevant21:06
bennyYeah thats what I got, too Maybe gtkpod can do this and I can't figure out how. Rhythmbox that comes with ubuntu at installation is going to be fine for everyday use, it's just this once i need to backup my original ipod after my windows PC bit the dust a few years ago, I only have a ps3 running linux to do this from... hmm well thanks for looking anyways.21:08
bennyHellow: I wonder is there any kind of program that can do something similar to Shazam, but for music on a computer, for example "listen" or  take a sample to parts of a tune then automatically fill out a completed ID3 tag? Without me having to sit and play every song then type all the info into things I don't know the names of?21:09
Hellowbenny: What I have found, however, is that, if gtkpod maintains the correct tags for your music, you could sort them using a program known as "id3tool" and a bash script: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/bash-script-for-sorting-and-renaming-multiple-mp3-files-by-id3-tags-602105/21:09
bennyHellow: That seems like it will pretty much do what I need and anything further I can fiddle with at my leisure, Thank you!21:12
HellowGlad I could be of assistance.21:12
bennyvery much so!21:13
pombredaFlare183: re.21:26
bennyIf I want to install a piece of software that isnt under synaptic or ubuntu software manager, Which version do I download is it ther ".deb" or a "tar.gz" ?21:27
BGL-[e]benny: a lot of times a .deb can be easier to deal with21:31
bennyOkay, can I assume they will both work then? I will go for the .deb if it's easier. but just for reference what is the difference?21:32
pombredaFlare183: thx ++ for being so helpful, and have a great day!22:18
Flare183pombreda: Alright you too :)22:18
pombredaoff to bed . ciao yo fine newbies helpers!23:02
willaI've taken away my ability to use the LAMPP installation, and placed some other server in its stead. How do I undo this?23:41
willaYes, it's a pickle ...23:42
willaIs there a different chat room I could ask in?23:43
willaIs this channel open?23:48

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