[04:19] <tzufli> hello
[04:21] <ibuclaw> o/
[04:22] <tzufli> i am trying to install maya in ubuntu ...i've read the instalation guidelines, and i believe that i installed everithing i would need to proceed ....but every time I try this it gives a couple or errors:
[04:22] <tzufli> sudo rpm -ivh AWCommon-11.5-19.i686.rpm Maya2009_0_64-2009.0-101.x86_64.rpm --force-debian
[04:22] <tzufli> error: Failed dependencies:
[04:22] <tzufli> 	/bin/sh is needed by AWCommon-11.5-19.i686
[04:22] <tzufli> 	/bin/sh is needed by Maya2009_0_64-2009.0-101.x86_64
[04:22] <tzufli> any ideas how to make this work? I would apreciate it ...have been trying all day long
[04:23] <ibuclaw> rpm is for Fedora/RedHat-like distributions
[04:23] <ibuclaw> Ubuntu uses dpkg
[04:23] <ibuclaw> you'll have to convert the package using 'alien'
[04:24] <tzufli> the installer kept telling me that but i don't really know what it means
[04:24] <tzufli> is that a software to convert rpm to dpkg?
[04:25] <ibuclaw> yes - sorta kinda... :)
[04:25] <ibuclaw> it's not the cleanest thing in the world, but it is suitably efficient
[04:25] <ibuclaw> tzufli, usage would be:
[04:25] <tzufli> is a command that i have to execute on the maya rpm file
[04:25] <ibuclaw> fakeroot alien -d AWCommon-11.5-19.i686.rpm
[04:26] <ibuclaw> fakeroot alien -d Maya2009_0_64-2009.0-101.x86_64.rpm
[04:26] <ibuclaw> tzufli, and that should create two new .deb files for you.
[04:27] <tzufli> in the same folder i supose
[04:27] <tzufli> and the debian files will be executable?
[04:29] <ibuclaw> tzufli, via command-line, you will be able to install them using dpkg -i
[04:29] <ibuclaw> rather than rpm -ivh
[04:29] <tzufli> ohhh
[04:29] <tzufli> i will try it right now :)
[04:30] <tzufli> please excuse my stupid questions....but i am kinda new to linux...i use it at work ...but there... it's all set up by the admin
[04:30] <tzufli> and thank you for the help
[04:31] <tzufli> fakeroot alien -d AWCommon-11.5-19.i686.rpm
[04:31] <tzufli> /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 176: alien: command not found
[04:32] <tzufli> i am guessing that i have to install some library to get this to work?
[11:22] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:23] <Silver_Fox_> Hello
[11:24] <duanedesign> hey  there Silver_Fox_
[11:24] <duanedesign> good weekend?
[11:25] <Silver_Fox_> No worse than usual.  How was yours ?
[11:25] <duanedesign> we've had the third major snow storm in as many months
[11:25] <duanedesign> so stayed in all weekend
[11:28] <Silver_Fox_> Is everyone okay?
[11:32] <duanedesign> there have been about a half dozen deaths mostly car accidents and elderly people succumbing to exposure. All my family is ok thank godness.
[11:37] <Silver_Fox_> That is some relief.
[12:13] <Flare183> What's the default buffer size for Audacious?
[12:37] <ndefontenay> Hi everyone
[12:40] <Silver_Fox_> Hello
[12:54] <ndefontenay> Hiya
[14:15] <ndefontenay> hi
[14:16] <ndefontenay> I should write a script to say hi every once in a while
[14:16] <ndefontenay> never know
[14:16] <leoquant> /nick/the_undertaker
[14:16] <leoquant> oops
[14:17] <ndefontenay> hi leo
[14:17] <leoquant> hi
[14:17] <ndefontenay> hey you're a seedling for the unanswered questions tonight right?
[14:18] <leoquant> uh, i missed something here
[14:18] <ndefontenay> lol
[14:18] <ndefontenay> well maybe not then x)
[14:46] <Silver_Fox_> Hi swoody  :)
[14:46] <nigelb> hey Silver_Fox_, swoody :)
[14:58] <swoody> hello Silver_Fox_ and nigelb :)
[14:58] <swoody> how are you two doing?
[14:58] <nigelb> doing good.  had a tiring monday
[14:59] <swoody> nigelb: I know that feeling ;)
[16:11] <nigelb> heya PabloRubianes
[16:11] <PabloRubianes> hey nigelb
[16:22] <romulus_> hey
[16:22] <romulus_> i'm looking for help
[16:23] <romulus_> i can't custmize my gnome
[16:23] <romulus_> i try to install a gdm theme
[16:23] <romulus_> anyone can help me ?
[16:25] <Silver_Fox_> Which version of ubuntu are you using romulus_  ?
[16:25] <romulus_> the last one i guess
[16:25] <romulus_> 9.10
[16:25] <romulus_> karmic
[16:26] <Silver_Fox_> system -> administation -> login window
[16:26] <Silver_Fox_> Then click local tab
[16:27] <Silver_Fox_> You should see a button labeled "Add" on the right
[16:27] <Silver_Fox_> Find your theme (should be a tar.gz file)
[16:27] <romulus_> i dont see any tab
[16:27] <romulus_> i can only choose to connect auto
[16:30] <romulus_> maybe it's because i already changed the appearence
[16:30] <romulus_> with gtk theme changer
[16:31] <Silver_Fox_> Hmm,  okay,  a thought:
[16:31] <Silver_Fox_> Try this System > Preferences > Appearance > Theme
[16:31] <Silver_Fox_> Then choose install and find where you downloaded your theme. Then click okay
[16:33] <romulus_> it doesn' work
[16:33] <romulus_> should i extract the file ?
[16:34] <Silver_Fox_> No,  you should not need to.
[16:35] <romulus_> the file is .gz and not tar.gz
[16:35] <romulus_> but this is a gmd theme
[16:35] <romulus_> gdm*
[16:37] <hobgoblin> romulus_: hi - theming in gdm changed in karmic (and looks like lucid is the same )
[16:37] <hobgoblin> gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties
[16:37] <hobgoblin> should open the theme window for gdm
[16:38] <hobgoblin> it looks very similar to the normal one - shoudl be able to drag and drop the theme onto there and it install
[16:43] <romulus_> ok but there is no special tab for the login screen ?
[16:44] <romulus_> i'm happy with my current theme but i want to remove the old login sreen
[16:46] <romulus_> i'm lost with gdm compiz gtk ... is there a how to i can read ?
[16:46] <romulus_> ifound nothing clear on google
[16:46] <hobgoblin> no - there is no tab for the login screen afaik
[16:47] <hobgoblin> it all changed in karmic and in lucid too
[16:47] <romulus_> so i drag and drop and there is no confirmation
[16:55] <hobgoblin> romulus_: gdm compiz and gtk are all different things
[16:57] <romulus_> they are desktop engines ?
[17:27] <benny1> Hello I wonder if someone can give a little assistance with VLC Media player?
[17:29] <benny1> I have somehow hidden it completely. If i right click an .mp3 it will play it, but I see no window or control options... very frustrating!
[17:30] <benny1> anyone??
[17:32] <Silver_Fox_> Alt + Tab
[17:32] <Silver_Fox_> Is VLC shown in the running applications ?
[17:34] <benny1> If i look in system monitor it is
[17:36] <swoody> benny1: is it minimized to your notification area? There may be an orange traffic-cone icon there?
[17:36] <benny1> but alt + tab has no active window apart from one labelled " VLC (X11 Output)"
[17:36] <swoody> (notification area, not the taskbar)
[17:36] <benny1> Which is the notification area?
[17:37] <swoody> the area with your sound icon, network icon, etc.
[17:37] <swoody> right next to the clock
[17:37] <benny1> There is nothing there apart from Rhythmbox which I just closed in case it was hiding something
[17:37] <swoody> hmm...
[17:38] <swoody> benny1: and you right-click on the file and select 'open with VLC' correct?
[17:38] <benny1> I have tried uninstalling and completely removing VLC but to no avail, exactly the same issue. it was working not half an hour ago!
[17:39] <benny1> Yeah open with VLC, I can play a song, infact I can open many instance until I get a cacophony of simultaneous songs, but still no interface to actually control anythng
[17:40] <swoody> benny1: well, if you don't mind losing any VLC settings, I would try closing VLC (via system monitor) and delete your ~/.config/vlc folder
[17:41] <swoody> then when you try again, it should open VLC with default settings
[17:42] <benny1> OK I have closed all the instances where is the /.config folder located ?
[17:43] <swoody> /home/yourname/.config/vlc
[17:43] <swoody> you can hit ctrl+H to show hidden folders
[17:43] <swoody> i.e. the .config folder
[17:43] <swoody> (if you're using gnome?)
[17:43] <benny1> OK I will give this a go.
[17:44] <benny1> Do I delete the folder or just the contents?
[17:44] <swoody> benny1: either one, it should recreate the folder and/or it's contents if it's not there
[17:45] <benny1> Should I reboot before restarting VLC or go right ahead?
[17:45] <swoody> benny1: shouldn't need to reboot, just try opening a file w/ VLC again
[17:46] <swoody> (as long as you made sure there weren't any other instances of VLC running in system-monitor)
[17:46] <benny1> Success!!! thank you swoody
[17:47] <swoody> benny1: excellent, that's good to hear :)
[17:47] <swoody> yeah, must have enabled some kind of setting that was throwing it off :/
[17:48] <benny1> I wonder woudl you also know how to get the ghastly green and black vertical stripes when I go full screen to stop, i guess it can't be an issue with codecs as it works great windowed.  but something to do with stretching to fir a HD tv on ps3 running ubuntu?
[17:49] <swoody> hmm...
[17:50] <benny1> IM not sure where I'm going wrong but can't make the display options match my tv..
[17:51] <swoody> maybe try going to Video>Aspect Ratio and trying various options there?
[17:51] <swoody> or possibly try Video>Deinterlace and try some changes there
[17:52] <benny1> Yeah deinterlace helped, can I make my chosen setting a default?
[17:53] <swoody> benny1: yeah, you should be able to. Go to Tools>Preferences
[17:53] <swoody> and then on the left-hand side, click on Video, and there's a box there for deinterlacing
[17:53] <benny1> Thanks!!!
[17:53] <swoody> then be sure to save, and close VLC
[17:53] <swoody> and try it out :)
[17:54] <swoody> benny1: it's np :)
[18:08] <Silver_Fox_> Goodbye
[19:12] <christine11> hi all...
[19:12] <pedro3005> hi christine11
[19:12] <christine11> goin' nuts here trying to work on an assignment and new to ubuntu
[19:12] <christine11> hi pedro3005
[19:12] <pedro3005> christine11, need any help?
[19:12] <christine11> absolutely pedro3005
[19:13] <christine11> petra.. thanks
[19:13] <pedro3005> i'll see what I can do.. ask away
[19:13] <christine11> yes, I'm trying to create a shell script and am really really NEW at it
[19:13] <christine11> it's for a class I'm taking
[19:13] <pedro3005> i've seen better people at bash scripting than me
[19:13] <christine11> and I have some background in other scripting - such as java...
[19:14] <pedro3005> that means i'm a complete utter idiot at bash scripting....
[19:14] <christine11> well... it's not even the scripting that has me hung up at the moment
[19:14] <pedro3005> geirha, i think i've seen you do some bash, care to help?
[19:14] <christine11> it's more creating the file and getting it into my VMPlayer to run it
[19:14] <pedro3005> christine11, oh
[19:14] <christine11> I know I'm supposed to be able to use vi as a text editor, correct?
[19:15] <christine11> but using ubuntu in the player, well... I'm just lost
[19:15] <pedro3005> christine11, yes.. don't see why you wouldn't use VIm but you can use VI
[19:15] <christine11> that's a good point pedro3005.... how would I use VIm instead of vi?
[19:16] <christine11> (hates being the newby)
[19:16] <pedro3005> christine11, type 'vim' on a terminal
[19:16] <pedro3005> :)
[19:16] <christine11> slapping my forehead
[19:16] <christine11> lol
[19:16] <pedro3005> it's okay
[19:16] <christine11> okkk... well I'm just panicking since this project is due tonight
[19:17] <pedro3005> don't panic
[19:17] <christine11> let me see how far I can get... it's so comforting to just know you are here!!!
[19:17] <christine11> I'll be back in a few if I fail miserably... ok? ;)
[19:18] <pedro3005> christine11, ok
[19:18] <christine11> tc cya and thanks for understanding
[20:08] <hobgoblin> hi phillw
[20:09] <pedro3005> hi hobgoblin
[20:10] <hobgoblin> hi pedro3005
[20:12] <pedro3005> hobgoblin, how are you?
[20:12] <hobgoblin> not too bad ty :)
[20:13] <hobgoblin> pedro3005: and you?
[20:14] <pedro3005> hobgoblin, good, good
[20:14] <pedro3005> hobgoblin, physics test tomorrow
[20:15] <hobgoblin> :)
[20:17] <pedro3005> hobgoblin, yes, :) hoping for a total, like math.. probably not though
[20:18] <hobgoblin> he he he
[20:18] <hobgoblin> hi Orby
[20:18] <Orby> hi :)
[20:20] <pedro3005> hobgoblin, math is a joke... the test was about venn diagrams and groups.. the teacher today talked slowly about stupid linear functions.. i'm like what the fuck
[20:20] <hobgoblin> :(
[20:20] <pedro3005> hobgoblin, :/
[20:30] <pombreda> Howdy: I have a problem with a 8.04 LTS install. It was orinally a stock 8.04.1. I did apg-get
[20:30] <pombreda> update then upgrade
[20:30] <pombreda> it updated t 8.04.4 with this message:
[20:30] <pombreda> The following packages have been kept back:  bind9-host dnsutils libbind9-30 libisccc30 libisccfg30 linux-image-server linux-server
[20:31] <pombreda> sudo apt-get install bind9-host linux-image-server linux-server got it to install also these "kept back" packages
[20:31] <pombreda> after this a reboot: the system does not reboot
[20:32] <pombreda> there was a screen with L 99 99 99 99 99 99
[20:32] <pombreda> some research showed this could be lilo propblem.
[20:32] <pombreda> I booted with the orinal CD in rescue mode
[20:32] <pombreda> and tried /sbin/lilo
[20:32] <pombreda> same problem
[20:33] <pombreda> atm, I have the system booted with the rescue CD, sheel started on my original root disk.
[20:33] <pombreda> all the disks seem ok, and the content is there. but it does not boot at all.
[20:33] <Flare183> pombreda: Um lilo isn't supported anymore tho... I don't think...
[20:33] <Flare183> !lilo
[20:33] <Votebot> an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[20:33] <pombreda> I have no idea if lilo or grub was installed.
[20:34] <Flare183> cd /boot && ls
[20:34] <pombreda> I used the standard install on 8.04.1 from then.
[20:34] <Flare183> do you see a grub folder?
[20:34] <Flare183> yup, you've got grub most likely then
[20:34] <Flare183> That is, unless you've reconfigured lilo to replace grub
[20:34] <pombreda> no grub folder in /boot
[20:35] <Flare183> yup, you've reconfigured it :/
[20:35] <pombreda> I woudl not know the first thing on how to configure lilo :D
[20:35] <Flare183> sudo apt-get install grub
[20:35] <pombreda> ok
[20:35] <Flare183> tell lilo to get the mess outta your computer xD
[20:36] <pombreda>  Flare183: sudo apt-get install grub : done
[20:36] <Flare183> um did it remove lilo?
[20:36] <pombreda> how do I get rid of lilo beyond this? and noy hose my drives/partitions?
[20:37] <Flare183> sudo apt-get remove --purge lilo
[20:37] <pombreda> you understand I am booted with the rescue cd right?
[20:38] <Flare183> crap
[20:38] <Flare183> >><
[20:38] <Flare183> >.<*
[20:38] <Flare183> pombreda: I forgot >.<
[20:39] <pombreda> ? not sure I parse :P
[20:39] <Flare183> do you know how to mount your main root filesystem that's on your HD(S)?
[20:39] <pombreda> this is done
[20:39] <pombreda> this is mounted
[20:39] <Flare183> cd to that folder and look in /boot
[20:40] <pombreda> yes this is what I did
[20:40] <Flare183> Alright, then do this
[20:40] <pombreda> I have 2 linux images there: the old 8.04.1 and the new 8.04.4
[20:41] <Flare183> Well don't worry about the images, I guess.
[20:41] <Flare183> hmmm
[20:41] <pombreda> ie initrd.img-2.6.24-19-server (8.0.4.1) and initrd.img-2.6.24-27-server (the one that I installed above
[20:41] <pombreda> ok
[20:42] <Flare183> bah if I could ssh up to the server, I could do it for you >.<
[20:42] <Flare183> But like, its hard to explain how to fix it
[20:43] <Flare183> What I would do is install grub onto your main root fs
[20:43] <Flare183> but the way grub looks at the HD's is whack
[20:43] <pombreda> hum... let me see. the server is in rescue mode, but a buddy did start and sshd there, that is how I am accessing it atm, but through a few other hosts
[20:44] <Flare183> Set  up images to boot from DEVICE. DEVICE must be a GRUB device (e.g.``(hd0,1)'').
[20:44] <pombreda> ok
[20:44] <Flare183> That comes from grub-setup's man page
[20:45] <Flare183> If you'd let me ssh up to it, I might be able to fix it for you
[20:45] <pombreda> let me see if that is possible
[20:45] <Flare183> pombreda: Alright.
[20:53] <pombreda> Flare183: I think I should be able to get an ssh access. should take 20 minutes to get help for this. will you still be there then?
[20:53] <Flare183> pombreda: yeah
[20:53] <pombreda> btw thx ++ for taking the time to help :)
[20:54] <pombreda> Flare183: thx mucho, brb as soon as the config is there
[20:56] <Flare183> ok
[21:01] <benny> Hello everyone, are there any ipod users out there that can offer a little advice to a linux newbie?
[21:04] <Hellow> benny: What's your problem?
[21:04] <benny> Specifically, is there any software available to backup an ipod on linux? I have gtkpod, but it's usefulness in making a backup of my ipod is pretty limited as it will lump everything together in one folder, I would like to split everything up by/artist/album/ I have used a program called copy trans manager under windows to do this previously but can't find anything similar for linux
[21:05] <Hellow> The only things Google are returning relevant to gtkpod only.
[21:06] <Hellow> s/returning relevant/returning are relevant
[21:08] <benny> Yeah thats what I got, too Maybe gtkpod can do this and I can't figure out how. Rhythmbox that comes with ubuntu at installation is going to be fine for everyday use, it's just this once i need to backup my original ipod after my windows PC bit the dust a few years ago, I only have a ps3 running linux to do this from... hmm well thanks for looking anyways.
[21:09] <benny> Hellow: I wonder is there any kind of program that can do something similar to Shazam, but for music on a computer, for example "listen" or  take a sample to parts of a tune then automatically fill out a completed ID3 tag? Without me having to sit and play every song then type all the info into things I don't know the names of?
[21:09] <Hellow> benny: What I have found, however, is that, if gtkpod maintains the correct tags for your music, you could sort them using a program known as "id3tool" and a bash script: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/bash-script-for-sorting-and-renaming-multiple-mp3-files-by-id3-tags-602105/
[21:12] <benny> Hellow: That seems like it will pretty much do what I need and anything further I can fiddle with at my leisure, Thank you!
[21:12] <Hellow> Glad I could be of assistance.
[21:13] <benny> very much so!
[21:26] <pombreda> Flare183: re.
[21:27] <benny> If I want to install a piece of software that isnt under synaptic or ubuntu software manager, Which version do I download is it ther ".deb" or a "tar.gz" ?
[21:31] <BGL-[e]> benny: a lot of times a .deb can be easier to deal with
[21:32] <benny> Okay, can I assume they will both work then? I will go for the .deb if it's easier. but just for reference what is the difference?
[22:18] <pombreda> Flare183: thx ++ for being so helpful, and have a great day!
[22:18] <Flare183> pombreda: Alright you too :)
[23:02] <pombreda> off to bed . ciao yo fine newbies helpers!
[23:41] <willa> I've taken away my ability to use the LAMPP installation, and placed some other server in its stead. How do I undo this?
[23:42] <willa> Yes, it's a pickle ...
[23:43] <willa> Is there a different chat room I could ask in?
[23:48] <willa> Is this channel open?