[00:05] <salty-horse> using iotop on lucid I get: "CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT not enabled in kernel, cannot determine SWAPIN and IO %" -- was the flag removed recently?
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[00:25] <salty-horse> found it in here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/493156
[00:25] <ubot3> Malone bug 493156 in linux "Please enable CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT" [Wishlist,Won't fix] 
[00:35] <salty-horse> hi BenC
[00:43] <geoff918> Can anyone answer this question?:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9006250&posted=1#post9006250
[01:08] <mtx_init> what is the symbol table device names are encoded in?  im a bit confused.
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[10:03] <psurbhi> chrisccoulson, ping
[10:03] <chrisccoulson> psurbhi, hi
[10:03] <psurbhi> i am looking at the bug 539467 on LP
[10:03] <ubot3> Malone bug 539467 in linux "Frequent ATA errors and disk corruption" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/539467
[10:03] <psurbhi> had a questione
[10:03] <psurbhi> * question
[10:03] <psurbhi> ..
[10:04] <psurbhi> the description you have posted seems to be a part of a dmesg
[10:04] <chrisccoulson> it is
[10:04] <psurbhi> do you have that dmesg?
[10:04] <psurbhi> containing the error messages?
[10:04] <chrisccoulson> not the whole dmesg, i only copied the section with the errors from it
[10:04] <chrisccoulson> unfortunately, it doesn't save to disk ;)
[10:04] <psurbhi> aaha
[10:05] <psurbhi> sure.. !
[10:05] <chrisccoulson> so i just pastebin'd the errors before rebooting
[10:05] <chrisccoulson> i can grab the whole dmseg when it happens again though
[10:05] <psurbhi> ya.. cool.. can you get more than the error messages too? just to know something that happens before it
[10:06] <chrisccoulson> yeah, no problem
[10:06] <psurbhi> ya..that will be very helpful :) so i will comment as such on the bug as of now, ok :)
[10:06] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[10:07] <psurbhi> chrisccoulson, also one more question
[10:08] <psurbhi> you did not see this bug before 2.6.32.16? which means 2.6.32-15 worked fine for you?
[10:09] <chrisccoulson> psurbhi, i'm not too sure. the laptop is quite new, but i started seeing it as soon as i upgraded to lucid
[10:09] <psurbhi> ok
[10:09] <psurbhi> thanks!
[10:10] <chrisccoulson> psurbhi, the first lucid kernel i ran on this was 2.6.32-10
[10:10] <chrisccoulson> (i've still got them all on here)
[10:10] <psurbhi> cool..so did that work? or did that too give you the errors?
[10:11] <chrisccoulson> IIRC, that gave the errors too
[10:11] <chrisccoulson> i can try that again later though
[10:11] <psurbhi> ok..thats helpful
[10:11] <psurbhi> great
[12:28] <JFo> Keybuk, who all does the nouveau development? I'd like to get someone to look over bug 539655 if possible. Unless you are still thinking it is an X issue even with Stefan's logs
[12:28] <ubot3> Malone bug 539655 in linux "nouveau hard lockup in nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_fini" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/539655
[12:29] <Keybuk> JFo: #nouveau is a good place to start
[12:29] <Keybuk> as I said, I think it's probably a nouveau issue
[12:30] <JFo> k
[12:30] <JFo> anone in particular I should ping? :)
[12:30] <JFo> err anyone*
[12:30] <JFo> nm
[12:31] <JFo> <-brain is slow this morning
[12:31] <JFo> thanks Keybuk 
[12:49] <Keybuk> JFo: you has a reply already
[12:50] <JFo> yep :)
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[13:56] <Kano> hi apw , why was 
[13:56] <Kano> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-lucid.git;a=commitdiff;h=99380e40c725fbb737e1fbf30c9c54e4c6285455
[13:56] <Kano> done?
[13:56] <Kano> also the description is somehow wrong, woulnt it be RE-modularise SATA disk controllers
[14:42] <amitk> interesting, my headphones are plugged in and the sound is coming out of my speakers
[14:43] <JFo> nice
[14:43] <JFo> I wonder if that was what was happening to me earlier when you guys were getting the echo
[14:43] <amitk> worth checking out
[14:51] <psusi> there seems to be something very wrong with pipe()s... tar -cf - | dd of=/dev/null is more than an order of magnitude slower than tar -cf - > /dev/null.. having dd use a larger block size does not help, and the system is not cpu bound.
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[17:31] <Sarvatt> smb: do you actually have anything hooked up to the TV-1 on your geforce 6800?
[17:35] <smb> Sarvatt, No, its just a single VGA connected
[17:51] <smb> Sarvatt, Were would I see whether the driver thinks there is something connected?
[17:57] <Sarvatt> in your dmesg there it's showing a load on TV-1, I was wondering because fedora is disabling tv-out http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/F-12/kernel/drm-nouveau-tvout-disable.patch?view=markup
[18:04] <smb> Sarvatt, Hm. tv-output stuff. Have I seen something lately...? Gosh, to many things passing by
[18:07] <smb> Hm, this one on .33 stable... But it was for another system. "drm/i915: Use a dmi quirk to skip a broken SDVO TV output."
[18:43] <quentusrex> My search has finally led me here.
[18:43] <quentusrex> https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/347711
[18:44] <ubot3> Malone bug 347711 in linux "Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller Unstable on Jaunty" [Unknown,In progress] 
[18:44] <quentusrex> Can someone help me debug a kernel network driver problem?
[18:45] <quentusrex> I have found the r8168 and the r8169 network drivers to be unstable under heavy load on my system and can reproduce the issue within 15 minutes. 
[18:50] <quentusrex> My problem is I don't know what info is needed to truly track down the issue
[18:51] <johanbr> quentusrex, it's a known problem, with plenty of reports
[18:51] <johanbr> I don't think there's much you can do, apart from waiting for the kernel devs to solve it
[18:51] <quentusrex> alright, is there a 'main' ticket for it?
[18:52] <johanbr> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/472057 might be the same issue
[18:52] <ubot3> Malone bug 472057 in linux "NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0 (r8169): transmit queue 0 timed out" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[18:53] <johanbr> maybe one of them should be marked as duplicate of the other
[18:55] <quentusrex> johanbr, I've been trying to find an upstream report
[18:56] <quentusrex> I have found things that sound similiar, but not exact.
[18:56] <johanbr> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12411 ?
[18:56] <ubot3> bugzilla.kernel.org bug 12411 in Network "2.6.28: BUG in r8169" [Normal,Assigned] 
[18:59] <quentusrex> johanbr, does this look the same: http://paste.ubuntu.com/399465/
[18:59] <quentusrex> it does to me, but I'm not familiar with kernel call traces
[19:00] <quentusrex> that is the output as soon as the network connection fails
[19:01] <johanbr> doesn't look exactly the same
[19:02] <johanbr> but having some of the earlier output would help
[19:02] <johanbr> i.e, before line 1
[19:03] <quentusrex> just above that was the end of the last networking crash
[19:03] <quentusrex> I'm going to reboot the server and copy the whole syslog output
[19:04] <quentusrex> and, how do I remove the r8168 driver and put the r8169 back into service?
[19:04] <quentusrex> just: rmmod r8168; modprobe r8169 
[19:04] <quentusrex> ?
[19:08] <johanbr> quentusrex, yep
[19:21] <quentusrex> johanbr, how do I tell which driver is actually being used for a network interface?
[19:22] <johanbr> I guess lsmod should tell you
[19:22] <quentusrex> it says 0 for the in use by column
[19:22] <johanbr> or "dmesg |tail" just after loading, to see if it actually binds to the interface
[19:23] <quentusrex> lshw just said it.
[19:23] <quentusrex> is that reliable for this?
[19:27] <johanbr> should be
[20:16] <mwhudson> hi
[20:17] <mwhudson> i'm still being affected by this bug in lucid: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/377598
[20:17] <ubot3> Malone bug 377598 in linux "[i945gm] Video corruption when disabling internal monitor" [High,Confirmed] 
[20:17] <mwhudson> and i'm wondering if i should be surprised by this or not
[20:18] <mwhudson> the linked freedesktop.org bug suggests it was fixed in the kernel a fair while ago
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[21:01] <cnd> anyone know if there's an interface for karmic-proposed like packages.ubuntu.com?
[21:01] <cnd> actually, I'll ask at #ubuntu-devel
[21:11] <quentusrex> Is there a way to test newer ubuntu Karmic kernels? in such a way that can be rolled back?
[21:11] <quentusrex> I would like to test the newer kernels to see if the bug is fixed(on a karmic sandbox)
[21:11] <quentusrex> but be able to remove the newer kernels if they all fail. So I can go back to stock kernel.
[21:14] <tormod> quentusrex, if you install a kernel with another version (not just the last ubuntu-version number) it will be installed side by side with the others and you can choose in the grub menu
[21:16] <quentusrex> thanks tormod is there a ppa for these?
[21:19] <tormod> quentusrex, which kernels are you looking for?
[21:20] <quentusrex> I am running Linux therabbit 2.6.31-20-server #58-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 05:40:05 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:20] <quentusrex> I would like to test something more recent to see if the problem has been fixed.
[21:21] <quentusrex> tormod, I have no issues running the 'latest' kernel to test it
[21:21] <quentusrex> or testing other kernels more recent than the stock one I am using now
[21:22] <tormod> quentusrex, for a start you can install the latest lucid kernel, just get it from the main repo
[21:23] <tormod> then you can test later upstream kernels from the "kernel mainline ppa"
[21:24] <quentusrex> tormod, is there an apt repo for mainline kernels?
[21:24] <tormod> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/MainlineBuilds
[21:35] <mrec> hi, is there anyone who can commit a patch to the lucid kernel?
[21:36] <mrec> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tvtime/+bug/544527
[21:36] <ubot3> Malone bug 544527 in tvtime "usbfs is bugged with >2.6.32.9 and <=2.6.33 (breaks VMWare, Qemu, sane scanners, ...)" [Undecided,New] 
[21:36] <mrec> I think I will set our devices to Bulk in order to work around that bug :/
[21:37] <mrec> there are around 700 devices out there in the field which are affected by this bug
[21:44] <quentusrex> tormod, that doesn't have an apt repo
[21:45] <quentusrex> so it won't allow for apt-get update; apt-get install X
[21:45] <quentusrex> I can install it from here, but I would prefer the other direction since I cache apt repos and I am able to test multiple machines this way.
[21:48] <tormod> quentusrex, no I am afraid the kernel-ppa is not a real PPA :)
[21:50] <quentusrex> tormod, is there any talk about creating a real ppa for it?
[21:50] <quentusrex> I think it would help get kernel testing done :)
[21:52] <tormod> quentusrex, maybe you can use a script which sucks down from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/current/ ...
[21:53] <quentusrex> is there an upstream irc channel?
[21:53] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/543314 => can somebody check this plz ? :)
[21:53] <ubot3> Malone bug 543314 in linux "Frequently used NIC (Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Device 4381) not supported" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[21:57] <quentusrex> 2.6.34-999 interesting... :)
[22:01] <quentusrex> tormod, the mainline kernel doesn't have the kvm modules does it?
[22:08] <tormod> quentusrex, I don't know, but the config file should tell
[22:10] <quentusrex> tormod, thanks for the help. It does, but it isn't compatible. In this case I can't just upgrade the kernel.
[22:15] <quentusrex> tormod, is it recommended to test the realtek driver directly?
[22:16] <tormod> quentusrex, I don't know much about kvm etc
[22:17] <quentusrex> tormod, I had a test environment setup that could crash it in a few minutes with a kvm torrent server running
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