[03:42] <Takyoji> Forgot I wasn't in this channel until now. :P
[03:43] <Takyoji> So, any thoughts on the recent voting? :P
[03:45] <kermit> Takyoji: voting?
[03:45] <Takyoji> Health care bill
[03:45] <kermit> Takyoji: try ##economics
[04:05] <netbook> If only people viewed it as a numbers game instead of ideological bs, it would've passed a while ago
[06:54] <kermit> netbook: who cares about liberty, freedom, rights, all that nonesense, as long as i have predictable medical expenses.
[06:54] <kermit> also as a numbers game i'm pretty sure any government run industry fails miserably at that too
[07:07]  * tonyyarusso wishes it was just a sensible single-payer bill already instead of all of this patchy fix nonsense
[17:01] <Takyoji> *facepalm*
[17:01] <Takyoji> Another standards group, and all the documents are in Word format, not even PDF: https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/saq/instructions_dss.shtml
[17:02] <Takyoji> At least the specification itself is available as a PDF: https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/security_standards/pci_dss_download.html
[17:06] <netbook> kermit, all i am saying is it works well in other countries, costs them less (% of gdp), and we should do the same.
[17:06] <netbook> Oh sorry takyoji, i was being offtopic
[17:06] <Takyoji> It's fine.
[17:09] <netbook> I forget to scroll down in irssi ><
[17:10] <Takyoji> I've done similar before. :P
[17:16] <Takyoji> Is there another way to network a printer other than SAMBA?
[17:16] <Takyoji> (a printer that's connected to a desktop on a network)
[17:22] <netbook> http://localhost:631/
[17:22] <netbook> Might want to check that out
[17:22] <netbook> all I got
[17:36] <Takyoji> A resolver table doesn't need a unique ID at all, correct?
[20:02] <kermit> how many linux users do you suppose there are in minnesota?   yet i've only found 3 real time minnesota linux forums.. here, #tclug, and #mn2600
[20:03] <kermit> i don't think any of these 3 are big enough to be isolated from #tclug
[20:03] <kermit> yet some ppl are in #mn2600 and here but not #tclug
[20:33] <netbook> I am sure there are quite a few, but they don't take the next step and go to linux groups
[20:45] <netbook> I reckon 28,000 users in Minnesota
[20:46] <kermit> i started on linux before ubiquitous internet access, so i had more local peers in linux then in 1997 than now
[20:46] <Takyoji> It would be interesting to tally how many people at each installfest.
[20:46] <kermit> actually i had more local peers of any sort in 1997 than now, i still havent recovered from the internet
[20:46] <Obsidian1723> Still fixing Bug #1 heh
[20:47] <netbook> haha yea
[20:50] <Obsidian1723> of course the Livid Lynx that is coming out will add to that.
[20:51] <netbook> year of the linux desktop
[20:51] <netbook> i am pretty new to linux, ubuntu was first distro i got serious with ;)
[20:52]  * Takyoji wonders what general region netbook is in.
[20:54] <netbook> I live in the cities
[20:54] <Takyoji> ahh
[20:55] <Takyoji> Ooo http://voices.canonical.com/ubuntuone/?p=263
[21:34] <netbook> Does any have problems installing 'VBox Guest Additions' on a lucid lynx virtualbox vm?
[21:35] <Takyoji> Haven't tried it yet I believe
[21:35] <Takyoji> (considering I just run 10.04 natively)
[21:37] <netbook> I want to check out that music store... wonder how they handle CC info.
[21:39] <Takyoji> I wonder if it goes on a cart basis or not
[21:40] <Takyoji> If only I had some money in my account right now. :P
[22:03] <Takyoji> Anyone know a reasonable method of generating a self-signed key?
[22:03] <Takyoji> self-signed certificate*
[22:08] <tonyyarusso> define "reasonable"?>
[22:09] <Takyoji> I mean, a straight-forward method
[22:20] <Takyoji> otherwise I found https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/certificates-and-security.html
[22:35] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, that's pretty much it.
[22:35] <tonyyarusso> have fun ;)
[23:49] <kermit> (2010-03-22 23:48:29) gorkey: like how when you compare linux to windows ... from someone outside looking in, you see the linux experience of all this nightmarish bullshit of compilation, package management, poor integration, steep learning curve, etc over windows ... consoles offer that over a PC.  it's sleek, it's easy, it's plug in and go
[23:49] <kermit> damn windows zealots
[23:54] <Alpha_Cluster> um are you really surprised?
[23:54] <kermit> no, he's a troll
[23:54] <Alpha_Cluster> that was practically my learning to use linux in a nutsheel
[23:55] <kermit> yeah but that was probably years ago
[23:55] <kermit> now its 10x easier than win
[23:55] <kermit> just put in the disc and go
[23:56] <Alpha_Cluster> have you used windows 7?
[23:56] <kermit> no
[23:56] <kermit> does it pull drivers you need automaticly instead of making you insert lots of disks?
[23:56] <Alpha_Cluster> yep
[23:57] <Alpha_Cluster> its actually a really good compeditor