/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/03/22/#ubuntu-website.txt

MTecknologyI'm getting really really sick of IE13:34
cjohnstonlol13:34
MTecknologyis it really that hard to look at a standard and say hey, we should do that if the rest of the world is assuming that we'll do it13:35
MTecknologyi mean.. "hey, the rest of the world says that the width of a drop down refers to the complete width that the object will take up. that doesn't make sense... let's make it the width that the text portion will use up, add the drop down arrow to the end, and then let the web devs figure out the rest"13:37
MTecknologyor.. "hey, every other browser on the planet supports these features but i dunno if i feel like it. lemme stick both me fingers in me nose and say i dun feel like it"13:38
MTecknologycjohnston: so... how've you been?13:38
cjohnstonnot bad.. yourself?13:51
MTecknologyI was good until i woke up and got to start trying to hack crap together for IE13:52
MTecknologyand i get to deal with cvs now13:52
cjohnstonlol13:53
MTecknologycjohnston: pitty me yet?13:53
cjohnstondefinatly dont envy you :-P13:55
cjohnstonI'm taking care of a sick 4 year old.. want to trade?13:56
MTecknologyif you can get this done - gladly13:57
cjohnstonlol13:57
MTecknologyI have a fiancee that would love to help me too - cuz i don't know crap about taking care of kids, only about how to make them happy13:58
cjohnstonhehe13:58
MTecknologycjohnston: what do you think about this? http://staging.profarius.com/13:58
cjohnstonnewz2000: fwiw when you get some time, I'd like a minute :-)13:59
newz2000hey cjohnston, I'm here, whats' up?13:59
MTecknologythe rounded corners and faded edges are all css that ie doesn't support so everything is very blocky in comparison13:59
cjohnstonwanted to figure a time to schedule a meeting with those who are interested in the project14:00
newz2000this week I have a lot of availability, exception being first thing Thursday morning Central time14:00
newz2000next week I'll be very hard to reach14:01
cjohnstonhmm14:01
cjohnstonim wondering if thats enough notice for people14:01
newz2000you may not need me at the meeting if you want to do it next week14:01
newz2000I really think you can handle it14:01
cjohnstonlol14:01
cjohnstononly worry for me would be technical questions14:02
cjohnstonMTecknology: I like it alot14:02
newz2000I will pin down the sysadmins this week to try and get their approval for the idea I suggested14:02
cjohnstonok14:02
newz2000if so, then the technical people here should be able to handle it14:02
cjohnstonshould we wait to have the meeting until after the approval probably?14:02
MTecknologycjohnston: cool :) - I don't know what to do about the IE crap :(14:02
cjohnstonwho cares14:02
newz2000MTecknology: graceful degredation14:03
cjohnstonis that too mean14:03
MTecknologynewz2000: it's not too bad in IE, just very blocky features14:03
MTecknologyhttp://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/index.php14:04
newz2000seems a small compromise14:04
MTecknologyI suppose considering it's a community site ~80% of viewers will have something standards compliant??14:05
newz2000the main ubuntu.com site is the exception with 35% IE users. Most of the rest of our sites are less than 20%14:06
newz2000(many are more like 5% IE users)14:06
MTecknologyoh, perfect then :)14:06
MTecknologynewz2000: do you think that theme we came up with is different from what you guys are coming up with enough or not enough?14:24
MTecknologyI know I need to update the image but aside from that I think we're pretty close.14:24
* newz2000 looks again14:25
MTecknologywe haz pretty drop down menus too :D14:26
newz2000I think I'm going to defer on answering this one. Would you mind bringing it up on the mailing list? I can then forward it on to a few people who can give the best answer.14:28
MTecknologyok14:28
cjohnstonthanks newz2000.. more email14:34
cjohnston:-P14:34
newz2000yeah, well, we're at about 5 per month currently so this will probably be a crushing burden. :-)14:34
cjohnstoni was meaning for me14:34
MTecknologycjohnston: try signing up for the debian mentors list :P14:35
cjohnstonno thanks14:35
MTecknologycjohnston: you could help me write some cod14:45
MTecknologye in C14:46
cjohnston#include <stdio.h>14:46
cjohnstonI think14:46
cjohnston:-)14:46
MTecknologyyup, now you know as much as me, help me mash together two .c files into one14:48
cjohnstonlol14:48
* cjohnston is taking a test ;-)14:48
cjohnstonnewz2000: who is in charge of the ubuntu start page for FF?16:10
newz2000cjohnston: it's the online services team, aka ubuntu one16:11
newz2000Do you need a name?16:11
cjohnstonit still has a design error that needs to be fixed16:11
newz2000cjohnston: let me see where to report bugs, I think on launchpad16:12
cjohnstonits already been reported16:12
cjohnstonmonths ago16:12
cjohnstonim trying to find it16:12
newz2000ok, I can assign it to the right person I think16:13
cjohnstonwe need to sit down one day and go through website bugs together16:13
cjohnston;-)16:13
cjohnstonI could even provide a fix.. I just cant get it where it needs to go16:15
cjohnstonlol16:15
cjohnstonnewz2000: bug 52383716:18
ubot3Malone bug 523837 in ubuntu-start-page "on 10.04 Google startpage, the border box is broken in ffox (works in chromium)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52383716:18
newz2000ok, thanks cjohnston16:19
cjohnstonhmm... bug 442876 interesting newz200016:19
ubot3Malone bug 442876 in ubuntu-translations "provide localized versions of help.ubuntu.com" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44287616:19
newz2000I think the doc team has a policy on this16:20
newz2000I can't remember what it is though16:20
cjohnstonon the localized pages?16:20
newz2000no, on localizing help.ubuntu.com16:20
newz2000it used to be localized16:20
cjohnstonic16:21

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