| akgraner | The new issue of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter #185 is now available: | 01:57 |
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| akgraner | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue185 | 01:57 |
| czajkowski | folks all set up for global jam at the weekend ? | 10:09 |
| akgraner | czajkowski, hmm that's a trick questions :-P nope not yet for me :-) | 11:24 |
| czajkowski | akgraner: loads of time | 11:25 |
| czajkowski | just finished up sorting out ireland | 11:25 |
| czajkowski | had a day of planning yesterday followed by a night of sleep | 11:25 |
| akgraner | czajkowski, yeah nice post! | 11:25 |
| czajkowski | tonight is gonna be email over load | 11:25 |
| czajkowski | thanks | 11:25 |
| czajkowski | think you have to find what ever works for your LoCo even if it involves a bit of tweaking | 11:26 |
| czajkowski | what works for others may not work for yours due to the types of people involved | 11:26 |
| akgraner | yep - I think NC has 3 events across the state planned | 11:27 |
| akgraner | I am just not ready :-) | 11:28 |
| czajkowski | 3 | 11:28 |
| czajkowski | that's a lot | 11:28 |
| czajkowski | http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/women-in-science-pioneers-blaze-path-for-others-1924794.html | 15:25 |
| czajkowski | I liked #10 10. Nancy Rothwell MRC research professor, University of Manchester | 15:26 |
| czajkowski | "I'm often asked how I manage in a male dominated profession. I just don't recognise this description. I have experienced nothing but support from all my male colleagues. | 15:26 |
| MarkDude | czajkowski, that is a really cool way to approach things. Its very similar to "BE the change you want to see in the World" or "I choose to ignore *your* reality & substitute a version of my own" | 15:50 |
| czajkowski | MarkDude: are you referring to the article or Nancy Rothwel comment ? as thelast part of your comment fits neither | 15:51 |
| MarkDude | Refering to the fact that the responses to being a woman in Science have as many *paths* as there are people. | 15:53 |
| MarkDude | Its not like there is just one path for anything or any type of people. I like how people solve *problems* in different ways, sometimes by not paying too much attention - thats all :) | 15:54 |
| MarkDude | Maybe I just read too much into it, IMO it reminds me of a friend that believes in just being a peer helps people *act* like peers | 15:55 |
| MarkDude | Anyway, even if Im still in the *ass* category with some, great article | 15:56 |
| pleia2 | we have team meetings here, right? | 16:45 |
| AlanBell | Mootbot-UK is here | 16:45 |
| * pleia2 nods | 16:45 | |
| pleia2 | ok good | 16:45 |
| jussi01 | AlanBell: Mootbot-UK is different from Mootbot, right? | 16:46 |
| jussi01 | AlanBell: if so, pease update: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | 16:47 |
| MarkDude | AlanBell, how do I gets me a copy of Mootbot-UK ? | 16:53 |
| jussi01 | MarkDude: I think its in bzr on LP iirc | 16:54 |
| MarkDude | Cool, ty jussi01 | 16:55 |
| jussi01 | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/mootbot | 16:55 |
| jussi01 | Im guessing the alanbell branch :D | 16:55 |
| AlanBell | yes, it is the alanbell branch | 17:02 |
| AlanBell | it is hosted on the -uk server and dumps logs here http://mootbot.ubuntu-uk.org/ | 17:03 |
| MarkDude | CXool, found it | 17:04 |
| AlanBell | it is a bit experimental, the idea being to fold it into mootbot if it is considered useful | 17:04 |
| AlanBell | MarkDude: if you want it to sit in your channel Daviey is the bot herder | 17:04 |
| MarkDude | Ty AlanBell logbot is on our *by summertime list* we are weighing out the + & - | 17:06 |
| AlanBell | cool, which loco? | 17:06 |
| MarkDude | Possibly Oregon. I know 2 people willing to be the lead there. Its been abandoned for a while | 17:16 |
| AlanBell | what is the IRC channel? | 17:17 |
| MarkDude | & I used to live. I still work up there sometimes- so I have been trying to help bring them some options. | 17:17 |
| MarkDude | #ubuntu-us-or | 17:17 |
| MarkDude | The actual lead is MIA, | 17:18 |
| czajkowski | MarkDude: when you say lead, do you mean point of contact ? | 17:23 |
| MarkDude | Yes | 17:25 |
| czajkowski | hmm that's not ideal | 17:25 |
| czajkowski | http://www.ubuntu.com/community/leadership-conduct if they're not around they should step down | 17:25 |
| MarkDude | czajkowski, I dont know the "current" lead | 17:26 |
| * AlanBell looks forward to issyl0's blog post | 17:36 | |
| AlanBell | am I getting too impatient? | 17:36 |
| JanC | ugh, *another* loco with a "dead" contact ? | 17:45 |
| jussi01 | JanC: theres far too many of them imho... | 17:45 |
| JanC | seriously, why don't locoteams just replace such a person... | 17:45 |
| jussi01 | they dont know they can? | 17:46 |
| MarkDude | We did not want to be rude & figured we would give a chance to step up | 17:47 |
| JanC | as the loco contact is appointed by the locoteam, why wouldn't they be able to replace him/her... | 17:47 |
| JanC | unfortunately it seems like some "leaders" think they "own" their locoteam | 17:48 |
| JanC | MarkDude: giving people a chance is okay of course | 17:48 |
| MarkDude | JanC, there is actually alot of gray area with resolution processes, & I will leave it at that :) | 17:49 |
| JanC | in some cases we're talking about people who haven't been around for 6 months and are known not to be for the next 2-3 years | 17:50 |
| issyl0 | AlanBell: yes :P | 17:50 |
| MarkDude | CA had the same issue - a Google employee abandoned it, took a while to sort out | 17:53 |
| pleia2 | there are loads of loco teams with "missing" leaders, in the US I frequently find they're pretty disjointed from ubuntu as a whole so they wouldn't know about the lcoc or anything | 17:57 |
| maco | our loco contact is around but insists he is not the leader. crimsun does most of the event planning | 17:57 |
| pleia2 | which is part of the reason we have ubuntu-us to help them all out | 17:57 |
| maco | (he says "cat herder" is more accurate than "leader") | 17:57 |
| pleia2 | the contact for us-pa is not the leader (there isn't really a leader) | 17:57 |
| czajkowski | there is no grey area, it's really rather simple, there is a document it's very clear | 18:10 |
| czajkowski | if you're not around , please step down | 18:10 |
| czajkowski | pleia2: tisn't just USA, but there are a lotta usa teams doing things their way.. | 18:11 |
| czajkowski | maybe tis an english /usa translation on what the word point of contact means, as usa seems to translate it to leader with power over the team *boggles* | 18:12 |
| maco | i thought at some point the term *was* leader | 18:13 |
| pleia2 | czajkowski: yeah, people are very confused about contact vs leader (it's not confusing to me, I think it's cultural rather than language) | 18:13 |
| pleia2 | and frequently they *are* the same person | 18:13 |
| czajkowski | pleia2: perhaps, but it's begining to become a problem | 18:13 |
| * czajkowski adds another item to her list | 18:13 | |
| pleia2 | beginning to? :) | 18:14 |
| czajkowski | maco: some teams have leaders, others have managers, it's all a bit hit and miss | 18:14 |
| pleia2 | it's been a problem for years | 18:14 |
| czajkowski | pleia2: it's now in my inbox :) so I'm noticing it a lot more | 18:14 |
| * pleia2 nods | 18:14 | |
| czajkowski | pleia2: but there is a case of it being a lot of usa based | 18:14 |
| * MarkDude guesses it might have to do with some Americans view of how to execise power. | 18:18 | |
| MarkDude | IMO | 18:19 |
| maco | MarkDude: top down? | 18:19 |
| MarkDude | That & the idea that if you have power, it MUST be used | 18:23 |
| MarkDude | Ima big fan of checks & balances- some find that a hassle | 18:24 |
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