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tuxuser	GSwindle76: you already know you can ssh from server to server. You should capture packets and logs while you're trying to connect from client to server and it times out.	00:00
blackmamba	1 sec ill grab the link	00:00
blackmamba	https://d2l.cbe.ab.ca/	00:00
blackmamba	it loads fast under win but it takes a while in linux with ff	00:00
airtonix	blackmamba, im not really interested in how long it takes... what you should be doing is ticking off a list of possibilities that are causing the percieved delay.	00:00
nikin	hy. may someone be so kind to explain me what does eat up about 100MB of ram in nm-applet?	00:00
Trek	blackmamba: that link loaded in under 1 second :P	00:00
nunya	GSwindle76, you did ssh -v from the client?	00:01
GSwindle76	yes nunya it hangs on debug1: Sending env LANG = en_US.UTF-8	00:01
Guest92792	wow It has alot of tools o...O	00:01
Typos_King	nikin: it shows 11Mbs for me, sooo	00:01
blackmamba	Trek, what browser r u using? if its ff what version or tweaks have u installed	00:01
Guest92792	+ how do I burn cd's with linux systems again lol/	00:02
Typos_King	hehe	00:02
Typos_King	Guest92792: check in the apps, it'd one one there for burning	00:02
Typos_King	I use k3b myself, but that's in kde :P	00:02
blackmamba	airtonix, the loadtime is what my question is all about and trust me ive been trying to break down what could be causing it	00:02
tuxuser	Guest92792: brasero	00:02
Guest92792	nope don't have 1 =X	00:03
Trek	blackmamba: firefox, with IPv6 off, ad-block plus online	00:03
GSwindle76	Im seeing a waringin that says Mar bla bla greg-desktop[3632] WARNING: /etc/ssh/moduli does not exist, using fixed modulus	00:03
TMK	is Tom M on a cruise ship that's going down?	00:03
Typos_King	Guest92792: then install it -> sudo apt-get install brasero;	00:03
Trek	blackmamba: that, and I'm on a high-powered internet connection	00:03
Guest92792	that's for gnome	00:03
nikin	Typos_King: somehow 365MB is used on my system and nm-applet is the top eater.	00:03
blackmamba	Trek, is turning off IPv6 off a feature in the menus?	00:03
Guest92792	does it work on dbian based?	00:03
Guest92792	debian*	00:04
Trek	blackmamba: not really, you have to know what to search for, standby	00:04
yudun1989	why my computer got to crash when I connect to the internet?..who can tell me ....	00:04
smegzor	I have 2 usb memory sticks. Neither mount on my Ubuntu pc, but one which is FAT mounts fine for XP, the other which is ext3 mounts fine for my ubuntu laptop. Why can't I mount them on my pc and what can I do to 'fix' them?	00:04
blackmamba	Trek, thnx	00:04
Typos_King	nikin: I'm guessing 'top' isn't showing child processes or something, it shows 11Mbs for me, I use 'qps' which is a visual process manager, is in the repos, it shows the whole process tree, sooo	00:04
metalf8801	tuxuser I booted into safe mode and tried shutting down using shutdown -P now and I still had the same problem	00:04
Trek	blackmamba: want to know how to turn IPv6 off?	00:04
blackmamba	Trek, yep	00:05
Trek	blackmamba: PM me please	00:05
hugehug	hi	00:05
yudun1989	why my computer got to crash when I connect to the internet?..who can tell me ....:'(	00:05
mrman	hi	00:06
Typos_King	nikin: just checked in 'top', also shows 11mbs for me	00:06
mrman	hi	00:06
tuxuser	metalf8801: what I meant was to watch the messages on the screen while shutting down the pc and see where the process hangs (and report back here of course :-)	00:06
mrman	hi, all	00:06
tuxuser	GSwindle76: have you tried both with server ip and hostname ?	00:06
nikin	Typos_King: let me check with that... anyway i am runing a bare X without gdm and fluxbox as a wm. i have a terminal open with a screen session and irssi... that should not be 365MB	00:06
yudun1989	why my ubuntu pc got to crash when I connected to the internet?..who can tell me ....	00:07
Diane	heyt	00:07
hugehug	yudun tell me more about it	00:07
Diane	i need some help with ubuntu	00:07
Diane	configuring a static I{	00:07
hugehug	hey diane	00:07
Diane	IP	00:07
GSwindle76	yes hostname dosnt work	00:07
tuxuser	GSwindle76: also, maybe deleting ~/.ssh (in the client and in the server /home/greg folder) might help.	00:07
GSwindle76	ive done that already	00:07
Diane	basically i have it setup now so local IP is working just fine as static, but when trying to reach outside the local network the ubuntu server is not working	00:07
CrashRoX	oye. I just upgraded my machine to Karmic and can no longer ssh in! I was able to get an emergency console setup. Restarted the ssh service but still cant get in. Any suggestions?	00:07
yudun1989	hugehug: when I use the terminal to update or set up the firefox,the ubuntu pc crashed	00:07
Diane	?	00:08
Typos_King	yudun1989: 9.1? 8.1? 9.0?	00:08
tuxuser	GSwindle76: then you might have some sort of dns timeout going on... isn't the server trying to do reverse mapping on the client ip address ? To find out it might help a packet dump from the server while the client times out.	00:08
Diane	# The primary network interface	00:08
Diane	auto eth0	00:08
mrman	hi, i have a question	00:08
Diane	iface eth0 inet static	00:08
Diane	address 192.168.0.106	00:08
FloodBot2	Diane: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	00:08
Diane	netmask 225.225.225.0	00:08
Diane	network 192.168.0.1	00:08
yudun1989	Typos_King: 9.10	00:08
mrman	can anyone help?	00:08
airtonix	!anyone	00:09
ubottu	A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	00:09
nikin	Typos_King: it shows the same amount here.. but take a look at MEM%. 0.9 here from 2gigs	00:09
tuxuser	GSwindle76: I ask because my $WORK ssh gateway does just that.	00:09
hugehug	is it up to date?	00:09
GSwindle76	okay how would i determine that?	00:09
Diane	ok so i asked the question why is not connecting to the WAN?	00:09
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mrman	i have a Mac computer running 10.6.2 and disk utility cant format a usb stick, im wondering if gparted would do the trick	00:10
PeterT	is there a way to create a user and restrict them to /home/user?	00:10
Guest92792	hmm can't burn stuff with brasero/	00:10
Typos_King	nikin: the MEM% is meant to reflect the RSS in %, there are 2 amounts and the same	00:10
yudun1989	Typos_King: when I start the firefox or use terminal to update ,the computer got to crashed	00:10
GSwindle76	System: Host greg-laptop Kernel 2.6.31-14-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Linux Mint 8 Helena - Main Edition	00:10
GSwindle76	System: Host greg-laptop Kernel 2.6.31-14-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Linux Mint 8 Helena - Main Edition	00:10
airtonix	!paste \| GSwindle76	00:11
ubottu	GSwindle76: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.	00:11
Typos_King	Guest92792: it can't burn? how so?	00:11
Guest92792	the medium is not writable with current set of plugins...	00:11
Guest92792	that's what i said	00:11
metalf8801	the last thing it says is deactivating swap... then it just stops	00:11
Diane	http://pastebin.com/smcfZCAe	00:11
Typos_King	yundun1989: I'd think is.... some amiss install, I'd retry a reinstall	00:11
Diane	there is the url to my etc/network/interfaces setup?	00:11
metalf8801	no message	00:11
mrman	hi, im wondering if i can use gparted to format a usb stick of mine so i can install ubuntu netbook remix on it	00:11
Guest92792	tried to burn a image (iso) on a cd	00:11
Diane	anyone tell me why its not connecting to WAN?	00:11
tuxuser	metalf8801: is the HD led active or does it just stop ?	00:11
nikin	Typos_King: check the details on process: it sayys: Virtual image size of proces: 78 MB	00:11
mrman	...	00:12
PeterT	is there a way to create a user and restrict them to /home/user?	00:12
mrman	hello?	00:12
mrman	hi, im wondering if i can use gparted to format a usb stick of mine so i can install ubuntu netbook remix on it	00:12
mrman	or is gparted just for partitioning?	00:12
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tuxuser	Diane: start by providing details; your question is too generic to be answered.	00:12
yudun1989	Typos_King: ......well...I don\t think the ubuntu had any problem.cause I just reinstalled yesterday.	00:12
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Typos_King	Guest92792: and .... maybe the cd is not empty... maybe... ... something	00:12
mrman	can i format a disk with gparted? or is it just for partitioning disks	00:13
Typos_King	Guest92792: assuming you have a cdrw/burner :P	00:13
Guest92792	I'll try another one	00:13
Diane	ok basically when connecting to machine by Netbios (like putty) on local network i can connect.. but when i do like apt-get update it will not connect to the outside servers?	00:13
Guest92792	I do	00:13
Diane	http://pastebin.com/smcfZCAe	00:13
Guest92792	>...<	00:13
JordanAllen	Can anyone help me as to making shared folders that a computer using Windows view?	00:13
Guest92792	got 2 of them lol	00:13
Typos_King	heh	00:13
tuxuser	Diane: try ping www.cineca.it	00:13
mrman	JordanAllen: how good are you with the terminal?	00:13
Diane	connect: Network is unreachable	00:13
clickme	hello everyone	00:13
JordanAllen	Not very? I just started using Ubuntu XD	00:14
mrman	oh	00:14
mrman	umm...	00:14
Guest92792	or my debian distro doesn't regonise my cdrw burners	00:14
Guest92792	=X	00:14
mrman	i would suggest looking up a gui ftp client and using that	00:14
metalf8801	tuxuser I think it stops but I can check again brb	00:14
mrman	and install a client on the windows too	00:14
teorrr	hi, i made a big mistake, i used gparted so i resized my windows partition and free 5G . then i copied them and paste this free 5G on my ubuntu partition...the result is i lost everything and ofcourse i cannot boot...is there i way to save something ?	00:14
mrman	or you can use dropbox	00:14
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yudun1989	Typos_King: there are no problems exists in Win.	00:15
JordanAllen	I used the sharing thing built into Ubuntu and installed a Windows shareing file but I'm not sure if its workin	00:15
Typos_King	nikin: the 'Size' or virtual one, shows 22Mbs for me	00:15
mrman	dropbox can sync your files between computers, even iff theyre not on the same network	00:15
Diane	anybody knw why	00:15
mrman	JordanAllen: i would suggest using dropbox	00:15
nikin	Typos_King: Typos_King : mem leak? how mouch is your uptime?	00:15
Diane	http://pastebin.com/smcfZCAe	00:15
Diane	static IP not connecting to wan problem?	00:15
Guest92792	changed the cd it still doesn't work =X	00:16
JordanAllen	Okay i will give that a try :D	00:16
mrman	JordanAllen: Dropbox will sync your files between computers and they dont have to be on the same network to do so	00:16
mrman	its free too :P	00:16
epkugelmass	has anyone tried to install lucid beta 1 in virtualbox? i can't get past the 'try ubuntu..install ubuntu' screen	00:16
clickme	my firefox browser is not displaying CLOSE, MINIMIZE, MAXIMINIZE options	00:16
airtonix	JordanAllen, right click a folder and select sharing.	00:16
smegzor	my usb stick won't mount in ubuntu 9.10 64bit. Google tells me this is a bug in 64bit 9.10. I can see the usb using lsusb, but I don't know how to mount it from command line as I don't know how to identify the usb stick in the mount command. Anyone?	00:16
tuxuser	metalf8801: I'd look for hw errors then, install smartmontools then do a smartctl -a /dev/sda, then smartctl -t long /dev/sda (change device to where your swap partition is on)	00:16
Typos_King	nikin: 5h 13m	00:16
mrman	is it possible to use gparted to format a disk? or is it just for partitioning?	00:17
Diane	im sugin ubuntu server 8.04 LTS	00:17
clickme	mrman: yes you can use it 2 format	00:17
mkquist	clickme: f11?	00:17
mrman	ok	00:17
mrman	thank you	00:17
clickme	mkquist: no	00:17
Typos_King	Guest92792: thought you had ubuntu.. anyway... it doesn't see the cdrw..mmmm	00:17
Guest92792	nope debian based =X	00:18
Guest92792	old school xD	00:18
tuxuser	Diane ifconfig eth0	00:18
metalf8801	tuxuser: the hard drive light is off its not blinking or anything	00:18
linxeh	I'd hardly say debian was oldskool :P	00:18
clickme	mkquist: is not even accepting compiz wobbly	00:18
teorrr	hi, i made a big mistake, i used gparted so i resized my windows partition and free 5G . then i copied them and paste this free 5G on my ubuntu partition...the result is i lost everything and ofcourse i cannot boot...is there i way to save something ?	00:18
Guest92792	checking some other ways to burn images on cd with linux (on google)	00:18
Diane	http://pastebin.com/p3x40gBR	00:19
Diane	that is my ipconfig	00:19
nikin	Typos_King: here 2:23 ... then what is happening. I dont get it. Do you know a command to clean up the memory from all cache?	00:19
tuxuser	Diane: ping 192.168.0.1 ?	00:19
clickme	Guest92792: k3b is the best	00:19
Diane	ping works for that	00:19
Guest92792	ok thanks let me check =D	00:20
Typos_King	yundun1989: on your reinstall yesterday... did you wipe the partition before resintalling? did you use a clean-slate partition, at the very least formatted, instead of installing ontop of existing files	00:20
smegzor	nevermind. I managed to manually mount it.	00:20
nikin	Typos_King: althrought thats not the problem becouse its 414152 of 832240 used	00:20
metalf8801	I have the same problem with an older version of the kernel	00:20
tuxuser	Diane: cat /etc/resolv.conf	00:20
tuxuser	metalf8801: I would do a hardware check at this point. As I said, smartctl -t long /dev/sda then after a while smartctl -a /dev/sda	00:20
Diane	resolv.conf only has this line	00:21
Diane	nameserver 192.168.0.1	00:21
tuxuser	Diane: last one: route -n -v	00:21
clickme	my firefox browser is not displaying CLOSE, MINIMIZE, MAXIMINIZE options. is not even accepting compiz wobbly effects, i also tried a complete removal and it didn't work	00:21
teorrr	anyone can help me please ?	00:21
Diane	tuxuser: what do you mean?	00:21
clickme	teorrr: shoot	00:21
teorrr	hi, i made a big mistake, i used gparted so i resized my windows partition and free 5G . then i copied them and paste this free 5G on my ubuntu partition...the result is i lost everything and ofcourse i cannot boot...is there i way to save something ?	00:22
airtonix	!help \| teorrr	00:22
ubottu	teorrr: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	00:22
tuxuser	Diane: type route -v -n as root or prepending sudo	00:22
Diane	tuxuser: http://pastebin.com/bTwciYTh	00:22
mrman	i just installed gparted adn am trying to create a new partition table and its giving me an error	00:22
clickme	teorrr: save what exactly	00:23
Trek	mrman: what error?	00:23
mrman	Trek: 1 second	00:23
Trek	mrman: pastebin it if its more than 2 lines long	00:23
tuxuser	Diane: then how can it say network is unreachable if you try to ping www.cineca.it ? Try ping 130.186.1.46	00:23
takishan	teorr: you cannot boot into windows? or can't boot at all?	00:23
teorrr	clickme, recover the files i lost...	00:23
mrman	Error while creating partition table.	00:23
mrman	thats it	00:23
Diane	connect: Network is unreachable	00:23
tuxuser	teorrr: look for ext3grep	00:23
Diane	tried it for both?	00:23
Trek	mrman: are there any details?	00:23
clickme	teorrr: your personal files	00:23
mrman	nope	00:23
Trek	mrman: did you create an msdos table?	00:24
mrman	thats the whole message	00:24
mrman	yes thats what im trying to male	00:24
teorrr	takishan, i dont know about windows and dont care now..i care about my ubuntu partition	00:24
mrman	*make	00:24
Typos_King	teorrr: if it's a partition table writeouts, I doubt it myself, as even from a live-cd boot it won't let you mount it or even recognize it, since I'd think the partition information got messed	00:24
Trek	mrman, its possible your device is messed then	00:24
Trek	mrman, why'd you need to create the table in the first place?	00:24
giacomo_c	im trying to install ubuntu studio, but after i select install ubuntu studio from the cd, my laptop screen just goes white and gets really bright	00:24
Diane	tuxuser: i tried it for both it still says network unreachable.. i knw it works lan because hte 192.168.0.1 ping works fine and the putty client im using locally works fine lol	00:24
mrman	im trying to format it so i can put UNR on it	00:24
mrman	is there another way to format it?	00:24
Trek	mrman: why did you need to create a table instead of removing the individual partition?	00:25
Trek	mrman: something must be messed, I can't fix it without seeing the drive myself	00:25
clickme	mrman: sometimes if is mounted or the partition was not done correctly it could gave you bad information, try deleting the entire partition	00:25
mrman	ok	00:25
tuxuser	Diane: it seems like the router is not properly configured or even connected to the Internet. Can other pcs browse the web ?	00:25
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mrman	i tried right clicking on the partition but it wont give me any options	00:25
Diane	tuxuser: yes the pc im on is browsing the web just fine and there are no problems	00:25
mrman	theyre all greyed out	00:25
Diane	i have DHCP turned off with the router	00:26
tuxuser	Diane: that shouldn't be a problems since the ubuntu server has static ip in eth0...	00:26
Guest92792	hmm k3b doesn't work ...	00:26
clickme	teorrr: you care about the files in the ubuntu partition or windows, you can run the ubuntu live disc and see if you can recover anything with that	00:26
Diane	correct	00:26
Guest92792	program doesn't start somehow	00:26
Diane	well	00:26
mrman	do i have to unmound the partition first?	00:26
Diane	did u look at the kernel IP routing table i mean it looks weird right?>	00:26
mrman	*unmount	00:26
dsnyders	Diane, according to your pastebin of the route output, you should only be able to contact 192.168.0.x addresses.	00:26
clickme	mrman: yes	00:26
Typos_King	Guest92792: if the OS isn't picking up the hardware, the app won't be able to use it	00:26
Diane	http://pastebin.com/bTwciYTh	00:26
mrman	ok	00:27
digitalfiz	tuxuser, have you tried to ping an external ip?	00:27
Diane	ok..	00:27
PeterT	is there a way to create a user and restrict them to /home/user?	00:27
Diane	so how do i fix that lol that is probably the problem	00:27
Guest92792	how do i let it pick up my cd burners?	00:27
clickme	mrman: this is better done on the live ubuntu disk	00:27
tuxuser	Diane: dsnyders is right, a default gateway is missing in route !	00:27
Typos_King	Guest92792: sooooo, either you don't have a cdrw, or your system didn't load any drivers for it	00:27
tuxuser	route add default gw 192.168.0.1	00:27
digitalfiz	err i mean Diane can you ping external ips or have you tried? i mean try pining 69.147.114.224 thats a yahoo ip and it should ping back	00:27
Guest92792	my system didn't load it xD	00:27
mrman	clickme: what do you mean?	00:27
clickme	Guest92792: is it running	00:27
Guest92792	Don't know	00:28
teorrr	clickme, i care about the ubuntu partition...which had 45G files and now it saws to have a few mb ...im in a live cd and i dont know if i can recover the recently deleted files	00:28
Diane	horray now it worked!	00:28
Diane	where did i just add that gateway? t which file?	00:28
Guest92792	I'm usually on windows and kind of newb on linux systems =X	00:28
mrman	clickme: what do you mean?	00:28
mrman	its giving me a warning: Unable to find mount point	00:28
clickme	mrman: if your on the live cd and you only cd a few megs then your files are probably gone	00:28
GSwindle76	still nothing i purged the client and server and and i still time out	00:29
Typos_King	Guest92792: how do you know k3b isn't seeing the cd? does it say no drive.. or drive not found?	00:29
clickme	Guest92792: you run kb3'	00:29
Guest92792	k3 b itself doesn't run=X	00:29
mrman	clickme: do you mean if im running from the live cd right now? because im not, im dual booted with win	00:29
Typos_King	hehe	00:29
Guest92792	clicked on it nothign happened	00:29
mrman	clickme: but on ubuntu right now :P	00:29
tuxuser	Diane: I'd try to remove the network line...	00:29
clickme	mrman: use the live cd	00:30
Diane	apt-kk thanks!	00:30
mrman	clickme: boot from the live cd?	00:30
clickme	mrman: before you do, you know about partitions	00:30
mrman	yes	00:30
Guest92792	error	00:31
mrman	clickme: yes i di	00:31
nikin	exit	00:31
mrman	*do	00:31
Guest92792	KDEInit could not launch 'k3b	00:31
nikin	\quit	00:31
Typos_King	ohh boy	00:31
tuxuser	Diane: you already have a default gateway specified in file interfaces; according to man interfaces, the network line is required for 2.0.x keernels, so I'd start by deleting it and see if would keep the default gateway thing after a reboot..	00:31
mrman	meh, ima mess with this tomorrow	00:31
clickme	mrman: well if you do know, you should be ok with the live CD if gparted can't see what you are looking for or ubuntu in the live cd then your files are gone, so give that a try	00:31
dsnyders	tuxuser, Diane left about a dozen posts ago.	00:32
upfwnv03	anyone tried the lucid beta ?	00:32
clickme	mrman: did you just install ubuntu	00:32
mrman	no, a few weeks ago	00:32
tuxuser	dsnyders: thanks, missed that.	00:32
clickme	Guest92792: what version	00:32
epkugelmass	upfwnv03, i'm trying to try it! but i cant get it running in virtualbox	00:32
arand	!lucid \| upfwnv03	00:32
ubottu	upfwnv03: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule	00:32
wad	dmesg shows my drive is seen by the OS (http://pastebin.com/vUYcuE5K), but I can't find it under /proc/partitions. Does anyone know how to make it appear?	00:32
Guest92792	um...	00:32
Typos_King	Guest92792: try installing sudo apt-get install gnomebaker; maybe that gives you something	00:32
mrman	clickme: and gparted is giving me the error, Unable to find mount point	00:33
arand	epkugelmass: Try turning off acpi in the options of virtualbox.	00:33
clickme	Guest92792: did you just install ubuntu	00:33
clickme	mrman: run the live cd and see	00:33
Guest92792	or is it maybe possible to install burn programm on 'Wine' and burn a cd from there?	00:33
upfwnv03	epkugelmass, just wondering what folks first impressions were.	00:33
Guest92792	not I'm using a debian ditrso =X	00:34
Typos_King	lol	00:34
tuxuser	Guest92792: I'd be surprised if it worked.	00:34
dsnyders	Hi all! How do I sync a palm pilot with thunderbird?	00:34
Guest92792	well... it didn't =X	00:34
clickme	Guest92792: debian what version	00:34
Guest92792	er... don't know	00:34
Guest92792	=X?	00:34
clickme	Guest92792: download ubuntu and install that instead	00:35
LtHummus	!nvidia	00:35
ubottu	For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	00:35
Guest92792	ok I'll try lol	00:35
dsnyders	!version	00:35
ubottu	To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »	00:35
Guest92792	Don't know if that works out with my dual system =x	00:35
tuxuser	Guest92792: prepend your lines with <nickname> to show who you're talikng to!	00:35
clickme	Guest92792: we will be here waiting for you Guest92792	00:35
Guest92792	how do i prepend my line + nicknameslol	00:36
Guest92792	with*	00:36
Guest92792	and I need to learn to type lmao	00:36
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resno	does anyone know if ubuntu server has tuner card drivers?	00:36
clickme	Guest92792: type a few letter of the person your talking to an hit tab	00:36
Guest92792	clickme, testest	00:37
dsnyders	Guest92792, type in the first few letters of the name, press tab, and voila... at least with xchat.	00:37
Guest92792	...?	00:37
clickme	Guest92792: there we go	00:37
Guest92792	dsnyders, clickme: test	00:37
tuxuser	Guest92792: ok, you got it now stop :-D	00:37
zeleftikam	Help! For no reason, NetworkManager disappeared from my menu bar and it's not listed in the items i can add to it	00:37
Guest92792	ok let me download another ditro	00:37
clickme	Guest92792: no go download and install ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download	00:38
clickme	Guest92792: no=now	00:38
Guest92792	lol	00:38
clickme	Guest92792: we'll b here waiting for you	00:38
Typos_King	wait...if no=now; how do we say 'now'? no?	00:38
* Typos_King ducks		00:38
Guest92792	it;s a iso we all know i can't burn disc LOL	00:38
clickme	Typos_King: lol... hey there	00:39
zeleftikam	any help for me? :(	00:39
Guest92792	clickme, it's a image file and we all know Ican't burn burn any cd's	00:39
Guest92792	=X	00:40
tuxuser	zeleftikam: try typing nm-applet in a terminal window	00:40
clickme	Guest92792: yeah, how did you do this one	00:40
Typos_King	zeleftikam:....yeah... add 'nm-applet' from the choices, or run it manually :)	00:40
zeleftikam	(nm-applet:2039): WARNING : <WARN> request_name(): Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken. Return: 3	00:40
Guest92792	clickme, what do you mena?	00:40
Guest92792	mean?//	00:40
histo	Guest92792: are you still trying to get ubuntu on usb?	00:40
Guest92792	yes or disc	00:40
histo	!usb \| Guest92792	00:41
ubottu	Guest92792: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent	00:41
Guest92792	since nothing really works lol	00:41
zeleftikam	nm-applet isn't a choice in the list of applets that can go on the panel	00:41
histo	Guest92792: click on the second link for persistent live usb install	00:41
tuxuser	zeleftikam: killall nm-applet && nm-applet	00:41
Guest92792	should have got a ubuntu distro instead of a debian distro lol	00:41
Typos_King	zeleftikam: sounds like some instance issues...... check your running processes, and try to kill any instances of it, before reruning it	00:41
Guest92792	histo, !usb doesn't work on machine =X	00:42
midkniht	zündelt, blubbort, schnaggelt	00:42
zeleftikam	tux: killall nm-applet && nm-applet hangs.	00:42
Guest92792	os I mean	00:42
midkniht	whats that mean?	00:42
PeterT	is there a way to create a user and restrict them to /home/user?	00:42
histo	Guest92792: well if usb doesn't work then what are you trying to do?	00:42
Neezer	so I set up webmin on my server, and I was able to log in from my server. Now I want to try to log in from outside of my network. How do I do that?	00:42
Guest92792	burn it on a disc?	00:42
zeleftikam	tuxuser ^	00:42
resno	Neezer: adjust router to allow access	00:42
Guest92792	histo, burn it on a disc?	00:43
dabid	some1 told me 2 do cd / rm -r * as maintenance	00:43
tuxuser	zeleftikam: px ax\|grep applet	00:43
histo	Guest92792: then download ubuntu from ubuntu.com and burn it to disc	00:43
Neezer	resno, forward a port to the server?	00:43
digitalfiz	zeleftikam, hangs or runs? the prompy probably wont go away unless you use &	00:43
histo	Guest92792: you download the iso and burn it.	00:43
resno	Neezer: yep	00:43
digitalfiz	prompt	00:43
histo	!install \| Guest92792	00:43
ubottu	Guest92792: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate	00:43
dabid	@lart	00:43
dmfrey	Hey everyone	00:43
zeleftikam	tuxuser, px: command not found	00:43
clickme	histo: his distro[debian] is giving him problems with the burning app	00:43
Guest92792	histo, can't burn disc on my distro somehow lol	00:43
tuxuser	zeleftikam: sorry, meant ps	00:43
Neezer	resno, do you know what port it is? and will it interfere with my ssh port forwarding?	00:43
dmfrey	ugraded to lucid beta 1 today	00:43
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dabid	ubottu	00:44
dabid	@lart	00:44
PeterT	is there a way to create a user and restrict them to /home/user?	00:44
dabid	@lart	00:44
FloodBot2	dabid: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	00:44
dabid	@lart	00:44
PeterT	!lart	00:44
dmfrey	gnome-panel is running at around 90% cpu	00:44
resno	Neezer: i suppose port 80. ssh uses a different port. no problem	00:44
histo	Guest92792: open a terminal and use cdrecord	00:44
dabid	huh	00:44
dmfrey	any ideas on fixing?	00:44
Guest92792	histo, k3 doesn't work and with brasero i can't find my cdrw burner	00:44
zeleftikam	tuxuser, it's not on the list of things that came up	00:44
upfwnv03	PeterT, could put them in a restricted shell.	00:44
dabid	how do i lart then?	00:44
zeleftikam	sysrqalt, hi from uw campus madison wisconsin lol	00:44
histo	Guest92792: just open a terminal and cdrecord nameofiso.iso	00:44
resno	does anyone know if ubuntu server has tuner card drivers?	00:44
PeterT	upfwnv03: what command would that be?	00:44
dabid	like @lart	00:45
tuxuser	zeleftikam: if you type nm-applet in a terminal, do you see it appearing where it used to be ?	00:45
histo	resno: yes I believe ivtv loads as part of the kernel	00:45
Guest92792	histo, this is what i get	00:45
clickme	Guest92792: best option as i see it is installing windows lol	00:45
Guest92792	histo, he program 'cdrecord' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:	00:45
Guest92792	apt-get install wodim	00:45
Guest92792	bash: cdrecord: command not found	00:45
histo	resno: server is jsut a different kernel with pae etc..	00:45
histo	Guest92792: sudo apt-get install wodim	00:45
Guest92792	yea damn virusses xd	00:45
zeleftikam	tuxuser, no. nothing happens. doesn't return to the prompt, either	00:45
histo	Guest92792: then use cdrecord	00:45
zeleftikam	just hangs	00:45
Guest92792	on root right now lol	00:45
resno	histo: so, i can expect the drivers to be there? i am trying to install mythtv there, and it would make install easier :)	00:45
histo	Guest92792: okay well jsut apt-get install wodim then	00:45
giacomo_c	when i try to install ubuntu to my laptop, the screen just ends up going bright white and doesn't change. does anyone know what settings i should change for the install/	00:45
Guest92792	doesn't work	00:46
dabid	@lart digitalfiz	00:46
histo	resno: yeah an easier way would be to check out mythbuntu	00:46
Guest92792	histo, It dosn't wrk	00:46
histo	Guest92792: what distro are you running	00:46
digitalfiz	wtf is lart?	00:46
airtonix	!language	00:46
histo	Guest92792: and are you connected to the internet on it?	00:46
Guest92792	debian based soemthing?...?	00:46
ubottu	Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	00:46
dabid	where's the luser attitude readjustment tool	00:46
Guest92792	yes lol	00:46
zbrahead91-dedi	Heylo	00:46
resno	histo: true, but i want a fileserver to do it, plus be headless, etc. so mythbunutu is a bit overkill	00:46
histo	Guest92792: you can't install packages at all?	00:46
Guest92792	how the hell would i get in this chat anyways xd?	00:47
Guest92792	I can lol	00:47
Guest92792	some of them lmao	00:47
histo	resno: oh well then just install samba for the file server portion and ssh for headless	00:47
histo	resno: I beilieve you will need a X environment for myth frontend to run on it.	00:47
dabid	where'd lart go?	00:47
histo	Guest92792: what is the error when you tryu to install wodim?	00:47
resno	histo: oh, yea. i already got that set up with x forwarding. justs curious about tuner cards	00:47
Guest92792	histo, i can but soemtimes it doen't work	00:47
dabid	as in the luser attitude readjustment too	00:47
dabid	l	00:47
Guest92792	histo, this+>>>eading package lists... Done	00:48
Guest92792	Building dependency tree	00:48
Guest92792	Reading state information... Done	00:48
Guest92792	wodim is already the newest version.	00:48
Guest92792	You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:	00:48
FloodBot2	Guest92792: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	00:48
Guest92792	The following packages have unmet dependencies:	00:48
clickme	my firefox browser is not displaying CLOSE, MINIMIZE, MAXIMINIZE options. is not even accepting compiz wobbly effects, i also tried a complete removal and it didn't work	00:48
zeleftikam	tuxuser, sooo... any ideas from here?	00:48
dsnyders	Hi all! How do I sync a palm pilot with thunderbird?	00:48
zbrahead91-dedi	Anyone know how to convert a patched git ubuntu kernel into a debian source package	00:48
histo	Guest92792: well wodim is there so you can't use cdrecord?	00:48
soreau	clickme: Try F11 on the firefox window?	00:49
Guest92792	nope...=X	00:49
Guest92792	histo, nope =X	00:49
histo	Guest92792: you may want to try to get support with whatever distro you are running to figure otu whats wrong with your packages	00:49
zeleftikam	help: networkmanager applet won't run	00:50
tuxuser	zeleftikam: I was searching for some settings to clear in .gnome or .gnome2 but nothing found... may I suggest a logout or evena reboot :-P	00:50
histo	Guest92792: apt-get -f install is saying there there are some issues witht he installed packages you can try doing that but its risky	00:50
zeleftikam	tuxuser, tried that, twice	00:50
zeleftikam	tuxuser, i also tried removing and reinstalling the package	00:50
Guest92792	histo, yea kinda =/	00:50
histo	Guest92792: what happens when you right click on the iso and select burn to disc	00:50
histo	Guest92792: or write to disk sorry	00:50
zeleftikam	something ALWAYS breaks when the laptop dies in hibernation	00:51
zeleftikam	usually the wireless	00:51
stercor	I 'sudo apt-get install vuze' to install vuze. When I issue 'vuze' from the command line I'm rewarded(?) with the message: "Oh no! You are using a version of Vuze that is no longer supported." and invites me to upgrade. What to do?	00:51
NaturalLaw	anyone have a good way to keep your channel up and running wile your loged out. Been about 15 years since i used irc	00:51
tuxuser	zeleftikam: you mean suspend, right ? It can't die in hibernation since it's actually turned off.	00:51
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Guest92792	histo, it gives me some options	00:51
* psusi is so bloody confused... I'm benchmarking dump vs tar to backup a fs... when sending the output to /dev/null, tar takes like 15 seconds, dump takes 1m45s... but when outputting to another partition on the same disk, dump is faster... it makes no sense!		00:51
histo	Guest92792: and can you write the cd then?	00:52
zeleftikam	tuxuser, maybe, i can't remember what mode it was in when i left it	00:52
Guest92792	histo, like open , open with , properties etc	00:52
histo	NaturalLaw: you want a bot	00:52
stercor	I don't know whether upgrading ... no, I'm sure it'll mess up the program database.	00:52
zbrahead91-dedi	psusi: perhaps some corners are cut :P	00:52
Guest92792	histo, nope =X	00:52
histo	NaturalLaw: or nickserv might have some options for you try askign in #help	00:52
NaturalLaw	yeah i thought of that but i guess you need permission	00:52
tuxuser	zeleftikam: I'm sorry I out of ideas.. :-(	00:52
NaturalLaw	thanks	00:52
zeleftikam	ok	00:52
zeleftikam	thanks for trying	00:52
giacomo_c	anyone know what vga options i need to set to install ubuntu on a laptop?	00:53
tuxuser	zeleftikam: :-)	00:53
Guest92792	histo, somehow my Os doesn't load my cd/dvd/ burners	00:53
histo	Guest92792: What OS?	00:53
Guest92792	debian based don't which 1	00:53
Guest92792	know*	00:53
histo	Guest92792: try cat /etc/issue in a terminal	00:53
tuxuser	giacomo_c: have you tried safe mode or even text mode install ?	00:53
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dsnyders	!version>Guest92792	00:54
ubottu	Guest92792, please see my private message	00:54
histo	Guest92792: also you could look in /etc/apt/sources.list for some more info	00:54
geoff918	Can anyone answer this question?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9006250&posted=1#post9006250	00:54
Guest92792	dsnyders, bash: !version: event not found	00:54
tuxuser	NaturalLaw: have a look at Quassel IRC. I'm using it right now in client only mode but I think it's got a server component that acts like screen for consolle access.	00:54
Guest92792	histo, ok ill try that	00:55
NaturalLaw	Not herd of it yet	00:55
NaturalLaw	using konversation at the moment is quassel a bot or irc program?	00:55
dsnyders	!version	00:55
ubottu	To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »	00:55
histo	geoff918: you could get one of those atom based systems like 6watts	00:55
tuxuser	NaturalLaw: normal irc program (gui, kde)	00:56
histo	geoff918: but as far as kernel it doesn't matter for power consumption both use acpi	00:56
NaturalLaw	thanks	00:56
Guest92792	histo, it gives me a website lol	00:56
tuxuser	NaturalLaw: :-)	00:56
dsnyders	Guest92792, you need to type in lsb_release -a not !version	00:56
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histo	dsnyders: he's not sure what off take of debian based system he is running	00:56
sensae	I can't get banshee to detect my fifth-generation iPod	00:56
Guest92792	histo, lol wtf i do have ubunto o.o	00:57
Guest92792	histo, No LSB modules are available.	00:57
Guest92792	Distributor ID: Ubuntu	00:57
Guest92792	Description: Ubuntu 8.10	00:57
Guest92792	Release: 8.10	00:57
Guest92792	Codename: intrepid	00:57
FloodBot2	Guest92792: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	00:57
geoff918	histo: That's what I've been told. I have a dual AMD 64 core. Would there be an appreciable difference in the kernel if I would choose desktop or server? Would one be more power efficient than the other?	00:57
upfwnv03	PeterT you could try rssh	00:57
Guest92792	histo, thought Ihad debian lol	00:57
clickme	my firefox browser is not displaying CLOSE, MINIMIZE, MAXIMINIZE options. is not even accepting compiz wobbly effects, i also tried a complete removal and it didn't work, and is not f11	00:57
PeterT	upfwnv03: what's that?	00:58
histo	geoff918: not that I know of the only difference i've seen is pae support which is more than 4gb of ram. They are phasing out the server kernel anyways	00:58
histo	geoff918: i thought	00:58
geoff918	clickme: alt-f2 gconf-editor	00:58
clickme	geoff918: ok	00:58
geoff918	clickme: I don't know the specific setting, but I'm going to bet that it's in there	00:58
upfwnv03	PeterT, restricted shell. A restricted shell is a Unix shell that has been modified to allow the Unix shell user to do fewer things than a normal shell would allow him to do. Restricted shells allow you to control the user’s environment allowing only specific admin-aproved commands.	00:59
Guest92792	clickme, histro do you guys know how I load my cd/dvd drives?	00:59
clickme	geoff918: i want to install it	00:59
clickme	geoff918: fresh install	00:59
dsnyders	Guest92792, What cd/dvd drive do you have?	00:59
PeterT	upfwnv03: where can I install this?	01:00
Guest92792	dsnyders, cd/dvd rw don't know which 1	01:00
clickme	Guest92792: how did you get debian on that system	01:00
geoff918	clickme: maybe delete .mozilla from your home directory? just a guess...	01:00
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histo	Guest92792: they should just be working. but you are having issues with the packages you ahve installed etc.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade	01:00
histo	clickme: he's saying he has ubuntu now 8.10	01:00
Guest92792	histo, ok	01:00
clickme	geoff918: i thought a complete remove would do that	01:00
Guest92792	clickme, I thought i had debian but it is ubuntu instead	01:01
tuxuser	geoff918: I think cpufreq-selector or something along the lines could make a difference wether you're running server or client kernel...	01:01
clickme	Guest92792: nice	01:01
geoff918	clickme: depends on how it's done. What I've found is that a purge won't necessarily remove all the custom settings--just the binaries	01:01
Guest92792	clickme, butthose burning programs still don't work	01:01
tuxuser	geoff918: I mean if you run cpu always in full freq mode or on deman strategy it should make a visible difference in power consuption	01:01
histo	tuxuser: geoff918 isnt' that part of acpi though? I had a server I just set up and it still had acpi installed which caused problems withthe older bios I hade.	01:01
clickme	Guest92792: do you still have the old disk	01:02
histo	Guest92792: first you need to fix the paackage errors because if wodim is installed you should be able to just use that.	01:02
tuxuser	histo: I belive acpi must be enabled to allow cpu freq scaling. Not 100% sure though.	01:02
histo	Guest92792: wodim -f isoblah.iso	01:02
tuxuser	histo: I've seen also acpi as a major source of problems with older bioses due to them being broken wrt acpi support...	01:02
histo	tuxuser: yes but acpi works ont he server kernel	01:03
clickme	geoff918: complete removal in synaptics is the same thing as purge in the termial	01:03
Lonely-Troll	Hello	01:03
Guest92792	clickme, old disc?	01:03
Guest92792	histo, hmm	01:03
histo	geoff918: the only thing you are goign to see different is pre-empt used to be an option and pae which is more than 4gigs of ram supported	01:03
clickme	Guest92792: how did you install ubuntu	01:04
HaVoK-69	Hey could someone give me some guidance by any chance?	01:04
histo	Guest92792: that will be able to write a cd.	01:04
Guest92792	clickme, with a disc	01:04
Lonely-Troll	HaVoK-69 Google?	01:04
histo	!ask \| HaVoK-69	01:04
tuxuser	histo: cat /proc/cpuinfo watch for model name cpu freq and cpu MHz value...	01:04
ubottu	HaVoK-69: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	01:04
Guest92792	high-rez, nope that didn't worked	01:04
roma	Hi. I got UNR and when I run nautilus my desktop doesn't show but instead a window opens with my home folder.	01:04
histo	!google > Lonely-Troll	01:04
ubottu	Lonely-Troll, please see my private message	01:04
roma	As in, no desktop icons.	01:04
HaVoK-69	google didn't help xD	01:04
Guest92792	histo, nope that didn't work	01:04
Lonely-Troll	!google > histo	01:05
ubottu	histo, please see my private message	01:05
histo	tuxuser: I'm not asking a question I'm explaining that server kernel and regular kernel doesn't matter	01:05
Flannel	Lonely-Troll: Please don't do that	01:05
tuxuser	histo: Sorry, I thought you were the one asking :-P	01:05
Lonely-Troll	Flannel Do what?	01:05
roma	Any advice?	01:05
histo	tuxuser: no geo guy was asking the differenc ein kernels	01:05
Lonely-Troll	roma ROma!!!	01:05
histo	oh man	01:05
roma	Lonely-Troll: Yes?	01:05
tuxuser	histo: =:-)	01:06
Lonely-Troll	roma Were are you from?	01:06
roma	Lonely-Troll: Russia. I need help with Ubuntu though.	01:06
Flannel	Lonely-Troll: This channel isn't a chat channel, please take it elsewhere.	01:06
Lonely-Troll	roma I am to from Russia	01:06
dannnnnn	hey hey ; anyone know if it possible to configure apache to load a single name based virtual host, and default the rest to a single directory/	01:06
roma	I got UNR and when I run nautilus my desktop doesn't show but instead a window opens with my home folder.	01:06
Lonely-Troll	roma But I know nothing about ubuntu	01:07
Flannel	Lonely-Troll: Please help keep this channel ontopic, thanks. This is not a social channel.	01:07
cm	anyone know how to set up RPCs	01:07
roma	Would anyone know what's going on?	01:07
Lonely-Troll	Flannel So, find me a social channel with a lot of kind people	01:07
roma	Lonely-Troll: #defocus	01:08
dsnyders	Hi all! How do I sync a palm pilot with thunderbird?	01:08
roma	#not-math	01:08
Flannel	Lonely-Troll: That's not my responsibility. You've already been banned from our social channel.	01:08
histo	roma: thats all nautilus does	01:08
histo	roma: its a file browser basically when you run it.	01:08
roma	histo: Nautilus also renders the desktop.	01:08
Lonely-Troll	Flannel So, you know the true..	01:08
histo	!palm > dsnyders	01:08
ubottu	dsnyders, please see my private message	01:08
Lonely-Troll	Flannel That’s why I could keep your advices to yourself	01:09
histo	roma: correct but not on UNR they use some sort of desktop ontop of gnome	01:09
roma	histo: Right; netbook-launcher. I killed that process and it no longer starts up. I want nautilus to render my desktop.	01:09
Flannel	Lonely-Troll: Just don't be offtopic here, that's it.	01:10
histo	roma: so you want to go from unr session just to a normal gnome desktop?	01:10
roma	histo: I'm halfway done.	01:10
roma	histo: I stopped netbook-launcher from starting up.	01:10
Lonely-Troll	Flannel But I know NOTHING about ubuntu, so how I could stay on topic??? O_____j	01:10
roma	Lonely-Troll: So either install it and ask for help, or leave.	01:11
roma	Spasibo.	01:11
Lonely-Troll	roma#not-math It doesn't works	01:11
histo	Flannel: he's even being mentioned in #help he's just trolling	01:11
hipitihop	switching user or using guest account just leaves blank screen, can someone help	01:11
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roma	Now, on to problems.	01:12
Guest72443	nick sixtila	01:12
roma	How do I make nautilus render the desktop?	01:12
histo	roma: hold up i'm reading	01:12
nightsjammies	troll, go to help.	01:12
roma	histo: Thank you! Take your time.	01:12
nightsjammies	er, hell, even.	01:12
Lonely-Troll	I am alive	01:12
roma	Lonely-Troll: You are probably having fun.	01:13
roma	But please realize that nobody finds it as amusing as you do.	01:13
histo	roma: https://answers.launchpad.net/netbook-remix/+question/90183	01:13
roma	You are in essence making the world worse.	01:13
histo	!troll \| Lonely-Troll	01:13
roma	Please stop.	01:13
ubottu	Lonely-Troll: trolling / trollish behaviour is behaviour that is considered annoying by other channel users, this includes going offtopic, asking the same question time and again getting answered and not acknowledging the answer, and these are not the only ways behaviour can be considered trolling, please see /msg ubottu guidelines - if this applies to you, you may find yourself outside the channel	01:13
Lonely-Troll	!troll \| histo	01:13
ubottu	histo: trolling / trollish behaviour is behaviour that is considered annoying by other channel users, this includes going offtopic, asking the same question time and again getting answered and not acknowledging the answer, and these are not the only ways behaviour can be considered trolling, please see /msg ubottu guidelines - if this applies to you, you may find yourself outside the channel	01:13
histo	!ops \| Lonely-Troll	01:13
roma	*Reading.	01:13
ubottu	Lonely-Troll: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!	01:13
Lonely-Troll	roma Go away	01:13
roma	histo: Reading.,	01:13
roma	Lonely-Troll: You will be the one to leave. :)	01:14
trinikrono	anyone know about know trinidad and tobago	01:15
trinikrono	the country	01:15
roma	histo: I already did that.	01:15
roma	histo: I'm on to bigger fish.	01:15
roma	That doesn't solve my nautilus problem; nor does it solve another problem I have.	01:15
upfwnv03	PeterT, this may be more helpful. A restricted shell is used to set up an environment more controlled than the standard shell.Bash shell can be opened in restricted mode. If bash shell is started with the name rbash, or the --restricted or -r option is supplied at invocation, it is opened as a restricted shell.	01:15
histo	roma: well if gnome is running nautlis should be managing the desktop	01:16
PeterT	upfwnv03: I don't know how that helps me	01:16
roma	histo: It is but it isn't displaying a desktop.	01:16
roma	I have icons on it, for sure.	01:16
PeterT	upfwnv03: so I have to make the person logging in use -r?	01:16
histo	roma: the icons are showing up?	01:16
roma	histo: No!	01:16
histo	roma: do you have conkY?	01:16
roma	Negatory.	01:16
histo	roma: try metacity --replace	01:16
upfwnv03	PeterT, You can’t change directories using cd command. That way your user(s) would be kept to /home/<username>	01:17
roma	histo: That's metacity.	01:17
histo	roma: see if they show back up	01:17
hipitihop	how do I see why switching user just leaves me at blank screen without showing user login	01:17
roma	histo: Can I instead run compiz --replace?	01:17
upfwnv03	PeterT, I think you would put it in their .bashrc file	01:17
histo	roma: Yes but i'm thinking that compiz is causing problems witht he desktop getting rendered like the wallpaper is on top or something goofy	01:17
PeterT	upfwnv03: How do I make the bash they connect to restricted?	01:17
PeterT	upfwnv03: ok	01:17
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roma	histo: I ran both; yours first, then mine. Didn't help.	01:18
histo	roma: hrm...	01:19
upfwnv03	PeterT, here is the link where I found rbash. http://linuxandfriends.com/2008/09/07/bash-restricted-shell/	01:19
CTho	"Your system is up-to-date" "The package information was last updated 3 days ago." but I have it set to check every day...why is it 3 days old? is there somewhere (e.g. a log) i can check for errors?	01:19
dsnyders	histo, Thanks for the pointer re: hooking up a palm. However, the problem isn't the hooking up, the problems is having a conduit for Thunderbird.	01:19
PeterT	thanks upfwnv03	01:20
h4ck3rk1ng	hello, i need help with my wifi card. it dosent detect, whgat do i do?	01:20
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h4ck3rk1ng	can anyone tell me how i can view my internet connection info?	01:21
joe_	hi	01:21
h4ck3rk1ng	(like the adaptors)	01:21
h4ck3rk1ng	ANY1???????????	01:22
axisys_	!wifi \| h4ck3rk1ng	01:22
ubottu	h4ck3rk1ng: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	01:22
trinikrono	you using gnome?	01:22
histo	dsnyders: i'm checking something now	01:22
histo	h4ck3rk1ng: what type of network card	01:22
h4ck3rk1ng	i dont know. how do i find out?	01:22
histo	dsnyders: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/204745	01:22
h4ck3rk1ng	histo- i dont know. how i find out?	01:22
h4ck3rk1ng	wats the command???	01:23
histo	h4ck3rk1ng: lspci	01:23
histo	h4ck3rk1ng: that will show all the devices on the machine look for the network adapterd	01:23
h4ck3rk1ng	thanx	01:23
acovrig	how do I have a script open in the terminal	01:23
histo	dsnyders: you may want to search the forums. to find if someone else has hacked together a way	01:23
histo	acovrig: ./scriptname	01:23
upfwnv03	PeterT, might I also suggest open a terminal window and use man bash. This will give you a manual page on bash. It is however rather lengthy.	01:23
PeterT	upfwnv03: right, I'm on SSH	01:24
acovrig	histo, have the script open a terminal window and run something	01:24
upfwnv03	PeterT, very good.	01:24
nelson_	her@hotmail.com	01:24
joe_	hello, in virtualbox session xp i have problems with char @ in the browser. any idea to fix this problem?	01:24
h4ck3rk1ng	what is that command again?	01:24
h4ck3rk1ng	i forgot it	01:24
Gnea	h4ck3rk1ng: lspci	01:24
axisys_	lspci -v	01:25
h4ck3rk1ng	for the wifi thing	01:25
dsnyders	histo, Thanks.	01:25
dsnyders	!forum	01:25
ubottu	The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.	01:25
Gnea	!patience	01:25
ubottu	Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.	01:25
histo	acovrig: yes go tot he directory where the script is and ./scriptname	01:25
histo	acovrig: that basically means run here ./	01:25
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cecilfso	hi people, can anyone help me? i have no sound on flash videos in any browser i try... i'm using kubuntu 9.10 on a 32 bit platform.	01:26
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Gnea	cecilfso: does sound work otherwise?	01:26
histo	h4ck3rk1ng: yes lspci	01:27
h4ck3rk1ng	thank you	01:27
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airtonix	cecilfso, remember to ask in #kubuntu	01:27
histo	h4ck3rk1ng: also you may want to try to go to system > admin > hardware drivers	01:27
cecilfso	Gnea, yes, it is working on amarok and kaffeine, although not on VLC	01:27
h4ck3rk1ng	can anyone help me install wifi driver?	01:27
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Gnea	!wifi \| h4ck3rk1ng	01:27
ubottu	h4ck3rk1ng: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	01:27
histo	h4ck3rk1ng: multiple people are answering you	01:27
axisys_	h4ck3rk1ng: u have a laptop or desktop ?	01:27
cecilfso	airtonix, the problem is happening at Ubuntu as well, I have both here	01:27
h4ck3rk1ng	netbook	01:28
h4ck3rk1ng	i have a neetbook.	01:28
h4ck3rk1ng	here is my lspci:	01:28
histo	!troll \| h4ck3rk1ng	01:28
ubottu	h4ck3rk1ng: trolling / trollish behaviour is behaviour that is considered annoying by other channel users, this includes going offtopic, asking the same question time and again getting answered and not acknowledging the answer, and these are not the only ways behaviour can be considered trolling, please see /msg ubottu guidelines - if this applies to you, you may find yourself outside the channel	01:28
Gnea	h4ck3rk1ng: no.	01:28
Gnea	!pastebin \| h4ck3rk1ng	01:28
ubottu	h4ck3rk1ng: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.	01:28
axisys_	dmesg \| grep -i wifi <-- this gives you anything ?	01:28
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sensae	I can't get banshee to detect my fifth-generation iPod	01:28
axisys_	h4ck3rk1ng: ^	01:28
h4ck3rk1ng	i see	01:28
h4ck3rk1ng	http://paste.ubuntu.com/399060/	01:29
h4ck3rk1ng	here is my paste	01:29
h4ck3rk1ng	how do i install wifi for that?	01:29
Gnea	cecilfso: perhaps pulseaudio is not setup right?	01:29
h4ck3rk1ng	is there a download?	01:29
h4ck3rk1ng	http://paste.ubuntu.com/399060/	01:29
airtonix	cecilfso, when you right click on the sound icon in the notification tray and look at the applications tab, do you see an entry for the browser ?	01:29
h4ck3rk1ng	plz, i need this quicly,	01:29
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Gnea	h4ck3rk1ng: first of all, read the wifi docs, and stop repeating the paste, we got it the first time.	01:29
bigtom21485	i had to disable my software modem driver to get my sound to work	01:29
h4ck3rk1ng	ok	01:29
h4ck3rk1ng	sry	01:29
Gnea	h4ck3rk1ng: if you want it quickly, don't spam. otherwise, we take longer.	01:29
h4ck3rk1ng	kk	01:29
budah	Hello guys is anyone here using a tv card with ubuntu?	01:29
bigtom21485	h4ck3rk1ng: what kind of computer do you have?	01:30
airtonix	cecilfso, right click on the soud icon in the notification tray > preferences > applications tab	01:30
Brokie	budah, yes	01:30
histo	h4ck3rk1ng: I toldyou System > admin > hardware drivers	01:30
h4ck3rk1ng	i have a netbook its an hp	01:30
h4ck3rk1ng	histo: that does not work	01:30
histo	h4ck3rk1ng: it will have the broadcom drivers you need to activiate	01:30
h4ck3rk1ng	i need something else	01:30
histo	!broadcom \| h4ck3rk1ng	01:30
ubottu	h4ck3rk1ng: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx	01:30
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histo	h4ck3rk1ng: you have a bcm4312	01:30
h4ck3rk1ng	can i bring up that from the shell?	01:30
acovrig	histo, didn't open a new window, just got skipped	01:30
histo	h4ck3rk1ng: you need your firmware for your driver	01:31
h4ck3rk1ng	i dont know.....	01:31
h4ck3rk1ng	can i open hardware drivers from she;ll?	01:31
bigtom21485	h4ck3rk1ng i have a broadcom in my hp notebook, i connected to the internet via ethernet, then updated ubuntu, then did system-->admin-->hardware drivers and it found what it needed	01:31
Gnea	h4ck3rk1ng: why can't you just read the wifi docs on the web?	01:31
cecilfso	airtonix, i can't see this... but if you mean the sound at Preferences, I've already tested it... all browsers have the same problem... firefox, opera and seamonkey	01:31
h4ck3rk1ng	cuz i dont have tiome....	01:31
h4ck3rk1ng	can i bring up hardware drivers from shell?	01:32
Gnea	then we don't have time.	01:32
bigtom21485	h4ck3rk1ng: i have a broadcom in my hp notebook, i connected to the internet via ethernet, then updated ubuntu, then did system-->admin-->hardware drivers and it found what it needed	01:32
histo	h4ck3rk1ng: do you have X running?	01:32
cecilfso	Gnea, i've removed pulseaudio in order to set up things right, but nothing happened	01:32
h4ck3rk1ng	yes i do	01:32
histo	h4ck3rk1ng: jockey-gtk	01:32
h4ck3rk1ng	but i NEED to bring it up from the shell	01:32
Gnea	cecilfso: hrm, have you checked vlc and such to make sure that it's pointing to the alsa driver?	01:32
axisys_	h4ck3rk1ng: check what bigtom21485 told you ..	01:32
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acovrig	histo, can I say, `gnome-terminal "code to execute"` and have it open a new window and execute that?	01:32
Gnea	!patience > h4ck3rk1ng	01:33
ubottu	h4ck3rk1ng, please see my private message	01:33
h4ck3rk1ng	how do i see pm?	01:33
h4ck3rk1ng	i did	01:33
h4ck3rk1ng	i understand	01:33
h4ck3rk1ng	i did not find it on thoes documents	01:33
Gnea	that's debatable.	01:33
cecilfso	Gnea, yes, I have tried on vlc but there's no sound on whatever i choose... before, it worked when I chose OSS, but not with alsa or anything else	01:33
abbey	hey, i'm having a problem running wow via wine, i think it's a video driver issue. where do i find information about my video drivers in an ubuntu install?	01:34
histo	h4ck3rk1ng: if you type jockey-gtk in a terminal it will bring up the hardware driver in X	01:34
Gnea	h4ck3rk1ng: have you read this page? please, read it, don't give me a lame excuse again: http://www.linux-netbook.com/	01:34
airtonix	...	01:34
acovrig	or "code to execute"\|gnome-terminal	01:34
bigtom21485	anyone know anything about ubuntu supporting tabletpc's	01:35
acovrig	how do I have a script open a new terminal window (from ssh/crontab per say)	01:36
Gnea	cecilfso: did you vlc to use alsa specifically, or just default?	01:37
coop	anyone else unable to launch ubuntuone? i get a crash everytime..	01:37
jandersatl	I'm running 10.04 with kernel 2.6.32-16 generic kernel. Having some issues with invisible mouse pointer. Is it ok to upgrade to the latest stable kernel, 2.6.33.1, even though it doesn't show up with apt-cache search linux-image?	01:38
Lonely-Troll	Hello!! I miss you so much...	01:38
cecilfso	Gnea, i tried everything at VLC...default configuration, alsa, OSS (which worked before), pulseaudio, etc...	01:38
Gnea	Lonely-Troll: please try another channel, kthx	01:38
AbortD	has anyone got a ati radeon 3xxx hd series working on karmic without switching kernels	01:38
Gnea	cecilfso: okay, and when you choose a different audio output, are you restarting vlc?	01:39
acovrig	how do I have a script open a new terminal window (from ssh/crontab per say)	01:39
cecilfso	no...	01:39
Lonely-Troll	Gnea Back off whit your advises	01:39
cecilfso	it was never needed... then i'm not doing it now	01:39
Gnea	cecilfso: try switching to alsa, restart vlc, and play from there	01:39
Gnea	Lonely-Troll: welcome to /ignore	01:39
Guest57602	acovrig: Please restate your question.	01:39
cecilfso	ok...	01:40
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AbortD	no one using a ati driver? and having open gl working with compiz?	01:40
cecilfso	Gnea, it didn't work at all	01:41
soreau	AbortD: ?	01:42
acovrig	can I have a script/ssh/crontab open a new terminal window and execute a script in it?	01:42
AbortD	soreau, im trying to get open gl to run properly	01:42
clickme	http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7118/firefoxwindowoption.png my firefox browser is not displaying CLOSE, MINIMIZE, MAXIMINIZE options. is not even accepting compiz wobbly effects, i also tried a complete removal from synaptics, sudo aptitude purge firefox, and it didn't work [is not f11]	01:42
AbortD	without installing lucids kernel	01:42
Lonely-Troll	I am white and soft	01:42
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Gnea	!ops \| Lonely-Troll is ban evading. again.	01:43
ubottu	Lonely-Troll is ban evading. again.: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!	01:43
soreau	AbortD: The only way you could get it working without switching kernels is to use commits before Dec25th '09 for libdrm, mesa and ddx. Since then, there has been an api change, so the latest packages need newer kernel	01:43
Lonely-Troll	And I am a child of God	01:43
trinikrono	lol	01:43
chd	I'm using k9 copy to backup my dvds but I'm running into copyright protection. Can anyone help me out?	01:43
AbortD	i couldn't use the ati 10.1 proprietary driver?	01:44
h4ck3rk1ng	can any1 give me a link to install the driver for my wifi in my ubuntu	01:44
h4ck3rk1ng	?	01:44
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h4ck3rk1ng	i just need a dl link	01:44
trinikrono	drinking helps	01:44
soreau	AbortD: If you want to use fglrx, that's another matter entirely	01:44
maco	elky: good job	01:44
h4ck3rk1ng	kick lonely troll	01:45
AbortD	i just want opengl to run at it's best performance	01:45
zus	what is google talk? if you have a gmail, would that mean ya have google talk as well?	01:45
elky	Flannel, thanks, was just about to :)	01:45
Gnea	cecilfso: that's weird...	01:45
JordanAllen	Hello I have a question, how come I am denied access to my root and Lost+Found folder?	01:45
n0greenfx	hey all quick questio how do i convert a .toast to an iso using ubuntu??	01:45
clickme	my firefox browser is not displaying CLOSE, MINIMIZE, MAXIMINIZE options. is not even accepting compiz wobbly effects, i also tried a complete removal from synaptics, sudo aptitude purge firefox, and it didn't work [is not f11] http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7118/firefoxwindowoption.png	01:45
soreau	clickme: Try F11 on the firefox window?	01:45
Gnea	cecilfso: you're sure your user is authorized to use all audio devices?	01:45
clickme	soreau: check the link out	01:46
cecilfso	yes, i'm the owner of this desktop computer...	01:46
soreau	clickme: So this does not happen when compiz is disabled?	01:46
clickme	soreau: didn't try that	01:47
bigtom21485	how do i set up my ipod to sync with my ubuntu music folder and continue building a library like i had with windows & itunes?	01:47
Gnea	cecilfso: that's not what I meant. if you go to system->admin->users & groups, you can see what access permissions you have there.	01:48
soreau	bigtom21485: maybe look into songbird	01:48
bigtom21485	thanks :-)	01:48
clickme	soreau: still doesn't work	01:49
cecilfso	Gnea, hey, i've just fixed VLC...on audio, I chose OSS and the output via soundcard, Ensoniq whatever...	01:49
jadakren	bigtom21485, not all ipods are the same btw.. so it helps to mention which type you have and what version of itunes you were using	01:51
Gnea	cecilfso: awesome	01:51
cecilfso	now i need the sound on youtube...:)	01:51
bigtom21485	jadakren: ipod classic 5th gen 120gb	01:52
Gnea	heh, not much to suggest there.... it should just work	01:52
jadakren	bigtom21485, >>>> and what version of itunes you were using	01:52
Gnea	cecilfso: although, where did you install your flash support from?	01:52
MrPiracy_	i have karmic installed on an extended partition, can i convert it into a primary?	01:52
bigtom21485	jadakren: i dont remember	01:52
bigtom21485	the new one	01:52
bigtom21485	9.0 i guess	01:52
jadakren	bigtom21485, thats unfortunate	01:52
bigtom21485	whys that	01:53
dabid	@lart	01:53
dabid	@lart ubottu	01:53
jadakren	bigtom21485, because now your ipod will onyl work on windows or mac	01:53
* AbortD wishes open gl would work on ati		01:53
dabid	!lart	01:53
melanie_	what the name of the new version of ubuntu?...	01:53
bigtom21485	hmmm	01:54
bigtom21485	i can use windows to drag my entire library to an external	01:54
Ceaerrepe	chatroom of Ubuntu in spanish? "O como se escriba la wea!"	01:54
AbortD	!spanish	01:54
ubottu	En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.	01:54
cecilfso	Gnea, i installed the flash, at first, from the adobe site...then, as it didn't work, from synaptic, flashplugin-installer and nonfree-extrasound...	01:54
soreau	clickme: maybe you could ask in one of the specific firefox channels then, like #firefox	01:54
Ceaerrepe	AbortD: Thanks = Vale choro	01:55
cecilfso	now i have removed these again and I am currently using adobe once more	01:55
dabid	#\3	01:55
AbortD	np	01:55
dabid	cd #<\3	01:55
jadakren	bigtom21485, i suggest you look at using floola	01:55
DonaldShimoda	hi	01:55
melanie_	problem whit wolfenstein et someone can help come see me in private (ubuntu user...for life)	01:55
bigtom21485	jadakren: what does floola do? :-)	01:55
jadakren	bigtom21485, you'll find out when visit its website	01:55
jadakren	http://www.floola.com/home/	01:56
DonaldShimoda	i installed by hand a own compiled deb package, how can i avoid it to be removed for aptitude every time i want to install a nother package?	01:56
clickme	soreau: ok thnx	01:56
Gnea	cecilfso: did you remove the installed version from the adobe site first?	01:56
fr3nzy	Is wifi-radar a good alternative for NetworkManager? Are there any other reliable alternatives?	01:56
Gnea	fr3nzy: no, wicd is	01:56
cecilfso	yes, i did...when i installed the flashplugin on the trminal and from synaptic... amnd vice-versa	01:57
fr3nzy	Gnea, thanks. What's wrong with wifi-radar though?	01:57
bigtom21485	jadakren: thanks :-)	01:57
jadakren	bigtom21485, but i will wanr you allowing itunes 9 to touch your ipod has severely limited your options	01:58
swapnap	how to get ubuntu to output to TV	01:58
Gnea	fr3nzy: too limited	01:58
NaturalLaw	anyone running pcsx2	01:58
jadakren	!anyone \| NaturalLaw	01:58
ubottu	NaturalLaw: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	01:58
fr3nzy	Gnea, got it, once again - thanks.	01:58
bigtom21485	jadakren: if it doesnt work i can use a windows computer with itunes to copy my library to my external then copy it to my ubuntu computer, then erase my ipod and resync my library from the linux computer using that first program you mentioned, right?	01:59
swapnap	sure	01:59
Gnea	fr3nzy: cheers	01:59
melanie_	wolfenstein player... please come see me in private	01:59
melanie_	wolfenstein ennemy territory player... please come see me in private	01:59
dsnyders	Breaking Bad Season 3 starting in two minutes. Gotta go! By all!	01:59
jadakren	bigtom21485, or you could 1) use virtualbox 2) export everything and use rockbox on your ipod isntead (i did this on the 5th gen)	01:59
Gnea	!ot \| melanie_	02:00
ubottu	melanie_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	02:00
h4ck3rk1ng	can anyone help- me	02:00
AbortD	can i get any help installing the lucid kernel?	02:00
h4ck3rk1ng	i nee dt	02:00
swapnap	does anyone/anybody know how can i display ubuntu to output to TV	02:00
h4ck3rk1ng	*i need to install wifi, but	02:00
Gnea	AbortD: in #ubuntu+1	02:00
jadakren	bigtom21485, isntead of rebooting just setup virtualbox to have a windowsxp guest operating system	02:00
AbortD	thx	02:00
jadakren	!enter \| h4ck3rk1ng	02:00
ubottu	h4ck3rk1ng: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	02:00
Gnea	h4ck3rk1ng: why aren't you using ubuntu netbook remix?	02:00
jandersatl	I'm running 10.04 with kernel 2.6.32-16 generic kernel. Having some issues with invisible mouse pointer. Is it ok to upgrade to the latest stable kernel, 2.6.33.1, even though it doesn't show up with apt-cache search linux-image?	02:01
NaturalLaw	don't they make a rf out put usb connection at best buy for tv, Not sure about getting it to work on ubunto but you half way thear	02:01
Gnea	!10.04 \| jandersatl	02:01
ubottu	jandersatl: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule	02:01
jadakren	jandersatl, lucid is not supported in the channel yet sorry	02:01
bigtom21485	jadakren: my roommate would let me borrow his itunes and windows to do the transfer	02:01
jandersatl	oh ok thanks	02:01
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M3	hey guys, got a question...	02:02
asymptote	is there a lucid testing channel?	02:02
Gnea	!lucid \| asymptote	02:02
ubottu	asymptote: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule	02:02
asymptote	Gnea: that was rather rude	02:02
Gnea	asymptote: pardon?	02:02
asymptote	you could have just said "no"	02:02
chinatang	i have a question for deskfile for ubutntu	02:02
cecilfso	Gnea, thank you for trying to hlp me, but i have to go... maybe some other time... thanks a lot anyway...bye bye guys	02:03
Gnea	asymptote: no, saying 'no' would have been rude, as it would have been false information.	02:03
spw	asymptote, the channel is #ubuntu+1...	02:03
Gnea	cecilfso: good luck	02:03
GSF1200S	can anyone in here install Picard?	02:03
cecilfso	thanks :)	02:03
M3	in the ubuntu software center... I need a program and everytime I try to download it after finding it, I cannot. there's no download button as there normally is on other machines i'm running ubuntu on, and it says "not available in current data" - can anyone translate?	02:04
GSF1200S	I keep getting a python-sip error	02:04
GSF1200S	its driving me nuts	02:04
chinatang	if i have tree users,root ,JM,TM, how i create .desktopfile for all users	02:04
campassi	anyone have screenshots of 10.04 beta netbook edition?	02:04
bigtom21485	jadakren: ive never worked with a tar.gz file what do i do with it?	02:04
izmanromli	where can i find php5.3 packages?	02:04
izmanromli	i'm using jaunty	02:04
chinatang	<chinatang> if i have tree users,root ,JM,TM, how i create .desktopfile for all users	02:05
IdleOne	!lucid \| campassi	02:05
ubottu	campassi: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule	02:05
M3	anyone?	02:05
chinatang	<chinatang> if i have tree users,root ,JM,TM, how i create .desktopfile for all users	02:05
jadakren	bigtom21485, explain. where is the tar ball from ?	02:05
chinatang	<chinatang> if i have tree users,root ,JM,TM, how i create .desktopfile for all users	02:05
root__	if i have tree users,root ,JM,TM, how i create .desktopfile for all users	02:06
jadakren	!repeat \| root__	02:06
AbortD	can anyone help me install the lucid kernel in karmic	02:06
ubottu	root__: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.	02:06
M3	anyone have an anwser to my question?	02:06
jadakren	AbortD, lucid is not supported here.	02:06
Ademan	what should i do if I "lost" some gnome-panel launchers? A game I was playing with WINE resized my desktop and not all of them fit anymore, now I'm back to my normal resolution, but the launchers didn't come back	02:06
jadakren	!anyone > M3	02:06
root__	thaks	02:06
ubottu	M3, please see my private message	02:06
root__	thanks	02:06
M3	ty	02:06
AbortD	its not lucid its karmic with a lucid kernel	02:06
AbortD	they told me to come here	02:06
chd	I'm using k9 copy to backup my dvds but I'm running into copyright protection. Can anyone help me out?	02:06
bigtom21485	jadakren: I have the floola-linux.tar.gz file on my desktop, how do i install it now?	02:07
jadakren	bigtom21485, tried right clicking it yet ?	02:07
Gnea	Ademan: right-click on the bar, and add them again	02:07
izmanromli	anyone having issue with dotdeb packages here?	02:07
Ademan	AbortD: very risky idea, but you can (i've done this for non kernel packages) enable the lucid sources, upgrade only the kernel, then disable the sources	02:07
bigtom21485	jadakren: lol my bad	02:07
Ademan	Gnea: thanks but these were ones I made myself	02:07
M3	nice bot jada, unfortunitly i'm running wIRC (on my palm pre phone) and typing is a pain in the butt	02:07
Ademan	I don't have the path to the icon and the executable, and description all memorized for all of them...	02:08
AbortD	Ademan, thanks i will try it im trying to fix my ati problems	02:08
ChogyDan	AbortD: see my message in +1	02:08
jadakren	M3, ? the idea is that you form proper questions and have paitience.	02:08
M3	right.	02:09
Gnea	Ademan: the system usually has a place for them. if you made them, do you still have them?	02:09
jadakren	M3, "anyone" is not a proper question. see !repeat	02:09
h4ck3rk1ng	CAN ANYONE HELP ME	02:10
h4ck3rk1ng	I NEED HELP WITH WIFI	02:10
Gnea	!caps \| h4ck3rk1ng	02:10
ubottu	h4ck3rk1ng: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.	02:10
h4ck3rk1ng	no you cant read lowercase	02:10
Gnea	h4ck3rk1ng: I told you before what steps to take.	02:10
h4ck3rk1ng	it dosent work\	02:10
Gnea	h4ck3rk1ng: then you don't really need help.	02:10
h4ck3rk1ng	and i need	02:10
h4ck3rk1ng	to access it from shell	02:10
M3	anyone understand what a "not available in the current data" error means in the Ubuntu software center?	02:10
bowserinmario3	this is kind of odd topic but is there an alternative to etl?	02:10
Gnea	h4ck3rk1ng: you need to read the wifi docs website.	02:10
h4ck3rk1ng	just whats the command to bring up drivers	02:10
Gnea	!wifi \| h4ck3rk1ng	02:11
ubottu	h4ck3rk1ng: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	02:11
Gnea	h4ck3rk1ng: no, read the site.	02:11
h4ck3rk1ng	ok	02:11
h4ck3rk1ng	bye	02:11
xorwhy	I need to find an .deb file for ath5k, a wireless driver that, while old and feature lacking, is stable. I have already blacklisted the unstable driver.	02:11
jadakren	h4ck3rk1ng, bye!	02:11
h4ck3rk1ng	@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@	02:11
bowserinmario3	.j #data	02:11
h4ck3rk1ng	@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@	02:11
FloodBot2	h4ck3rk1ng: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	02:11
jadakren	weee one more for the ignore list!	02:11
Gnea	oh he's been on a roll	02:11
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izmanromli	xorwhy: what is the problem in specific?	02:12
quentusrex	Anyone familiar with troubleshooting driver issues?	02:12
danzig	does no one know how to search google anymore? :p	02:12
M3	no	02:13
bigtom21485	jadakren: i got it out of the tar file as a folder	02:13
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xorwhy	izmanromli: The wireless driver ath9k is not stable on my, and many other wireless cards. Poor performance (weak signal) and disassociation is frequent during file transfers.	02:13
jadakren	bigtom21485, and ? tried running the floola file?	02:13
Gnea	danzig: I think the more appropriate question would be: does anyone know HOW to search google at all? :)	02:13
danzig	true :)	02:14
izmanromli	xorwhy: try using a Windows driver	02:14
nob0dy	hi all	02:14
xorwhy	izmanromli: That's not really, uh how should I put this. Kosher?	02:14
quentusrex	https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/347711 That network driver bug has been filed for a year	02:14
quentusrex	and has been in 8.10 through 9.10	02:14
thestarwolf	I search google... only problem is the pages get outdated so fast and you try and do what they say and it screws up your system...	02:14
izmanromli	xorwhy: install ndiswrapper	02:14
nob0dy	#MC-crew	02:15
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xorwhy	izmanromli: I have considered that, however, functionality would be stripped significantly even with success.	02:15
bigtom21485	jadakren: where does linux put its programs? (like windows uses "program files")	02:15
bigtom21485	jadakren: just so i dont have to put it on my desktop	02:16
jadakren	bigtom21485, there is no central place. i'd keep that floola on your ipod	02:16
xorwhy	izmanromli: For example, there's probably little hope of passive scanning with a Windows driver.	02:16
DasEi	bigtom21485: /usr/bin in default mostly, but can be any place	02:16
jadakren	bigtom21485, it does not rely on anything you have installed on your system. which also means that if you grab the windows version of floola and keep that on your ipod alos then you have a portable cross platform method of dealing with your ipod	02:17
izmanromli	xorwhy: what ubuntu version do you use now?	02:17
jadakren	bigtom21485, but to be honest, i would just dual boot the ipod with rockbox	02:17
xorwhy	izmanromli: I believe it's karmic, whatever version Mint 8 lays on top of.	02:18
jadakren	bigtom21485, is your 5th gen ipod the 30 or 60/80gb version ?	02:19
bigtom21485	jadakren: 120gb	02:19
izmanromli	xorwhy: oh, never try it before	02:19
izmanromli	xorwhy: when i got problem with atheros, i switch to Windows river	02:19
jadakren	bigpresh, is it the one with steel backplate or the newer type that is all plastic ?	02:19
nicketynick	the root partition on my ssd drive has been spitting errors in dmesg and remounting itself read only. I keep having to reboot and fsck. Does this mean the drive is about to die?	02:20
nicketynick	is there anything I could/should be doing?	02:20
DasEi	nicketynick: not sure, did you run a fsck on it ?	02:20
jadakren	nicketynick, you mean a part from backing stuff up ?	02:20
izmanromli	nicketynick: try to recover your system first	02:20
clickme	here can i search for and learn about uninstalling packaged completely	02:21
clickme	where can i search for and learn about uninstalling packaged completely	02:21
izmanromli	clickme: use synaptic	02:21
nicketynick	DasEi: yeah. it put some things in lost and found and said some other things I didn't understand. then it happened again	02:21
chd	do they have jdownloader for ubuntu?	02:21
nicketynick	jadakren: yes :)	02:21
NinoScript	Is there an application switcher for Gnome (or Compiz) that is like the one in MacOSX or Gnome-Shell?	02:21
clickme	izmanromli: it doesn't always work	02:21
Camion	wtf	02:21
bigtom21485	jadakren how do i tell this program to copy everything on my ipod to my ubuntu's music folder?	02:22
izmanromli	clickme: what about aptitude purge?	02:22
jadakren	bigtom21485, not sure, i havent used an apple product in about 5 years now.	02:22
clickme	izmanromli: it didn't work, i want everything including the settings	02:22
Camion	FUCK YOU	02:22
clickme	wtf	02:23
clickme	i thought we were grown ups in here	02:23
jadakren	!language	02:23
ubottu	Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	02:23
izmanromli	clickme: it should be done with synaptic or command line if you install it via repositories	02:23
clickme	izmanromli: it didn't work when i tried it, it still kept the settings	02:23
Losha	nicketynick: it's a bad sign. First step, anything you can't live without on that SSD should be backed up now...	02:24
DasEi	nicketynick: so fsck ended with no error, btw. filesystem was repaired and now you're getting errors again ? can you paste dmesg ?	02:24
clickme	Losha: hi :p	02:24
izmanromli	clickme: did you install it from a source?	02:24
DasEi	nicketynick: dmesg > dmesg.txt	02:24
rkvirani	I re-installed windows via my computers recoverdisks but grub still shows up and now the computer is bricked, what do I do?	02:24
Losha	clickme: hi!	02:24
clickme	izmanromli: nope, repo	02:24
rkvirani	it says grub rescue>	02:24
xorwhy	is ath5k included in the generic kernel for karmic? or is ath5k deprecated as of ath9k?	02:24
kriebel	clickme: that's on purpose. there's probably a "dot file" in your home dir	02:24
psycho_oreos	xorwhy, no ath5k and ath9k work separately	02:25
rkvirani	Does anyone know what to do?	02:25
BoondoKlife	rkvirani: Boot with the live cd, format and then reinstall windoes from there.	02:25
clickme	kriebel: i want to learn how to remove everything from a program	02:25
rkvirani	I did	02:25
rodrigo3n	I have hidden the menubar of the terminal window	02:25
rkvirani	I put in my recoverdisks	02:25
rodrigo3n	can it be show again?	02:25
rodrigo3n	*shown	02:26
BoondoKlife	rkvirani: Did you format before that? if so I'm not sure how you have grub still	02:26
kriebel	clickme: if it keeps prefs in your home dir, that's normal. It's a UNIX thing, and you'll just have to figure out how it does it. What program?	02:26
rkvirani	boloon, which liveCD?	02:26
rkvirani	the ubuntu livecd?	02:26
BoondoKlife	rkvirani: yup	02:26
rkvirani	shit	02:26
cutie_girl	helloo ppl	02:26
rkvirani	I have to wait for another three damn hours	02:26
clickme	kriebel: well in this case it was firefox	02:26
rkvirani	for the shit to re-recover	02:26
rkvirani	I deleted the parittions	02:26
cutie_girl	can someone help me?	02:26
Roasted	HOLY LANGUAGE	02:26
clickme	firefox 3.6 on karmic desktop	02:26
nicketynick	DasEi: can't do taht at the moment as the FS is read only :)	02:26
rkvirani	that wasnt enough?	02:26
kriebel	clickme, you want to uninstall... Firefox?	02:26
BoondoKlife	rkvirani: Your windows cd should let you format but if it doesnt and your having issues, that should fix it	02:26
onethirtyfive	haha	02:26
Roasted	OMG G RATED	02:26
nicketynick	DasEi: i think this is the relevant part http://pastebin.com/VseB9suC	02:27
cutie_girl	the volume in my laptop running on ubuntu is too low	02:27
rkvirani	Recovery disks are not Windows Discs	02:27
xorwhy	psycho_oreos: ath9k is loaded automatically for my device. How would I go about causing ath5k to load instead? I have already blacklisted ath5k.	02:27
DasEi	nicketynick: have you got a live cd ?	02:27
cutie_girl	how can I raise it up?	02:27
BoondoKlife	rkvirani: yup if you deleted and created the partition then grub should not be there.	02:27
clickme	i had a problem with it	02:27
kriebel	clickme: terminal, run `rm -r .mozilla/firefox	02:27
rkvirani	BoondoKlife, I think its in the MBR	02:27
rkvirani	or MBS	02:27
BoondoKlife	rkvirani: ehh recovery windoes either way it will install windows.	02:27
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bigtom21485	jadakren: good thin gi keep a backed-up copy of my music somewhere else because floola just flipped out and erased my entire library	02:28
bigtom21485	fucking great	02:28
cutie_girl	ok, no one cares.. thanks ;)	02:28
psycho_oreos	xorwhy, you're misunderstanding the whole point of ath9k and ath5k.. ath9k are for atheros chipsets that has 802.11n capability. ath5k are for atheros chipsets that don't have 802.11n capability	02:28
Losha	nicketynick: an occasional fsck, if the system didn't go down cleanly, is to be expected. But if it persists or recurs, then that usually means your disk is bad...	02:28
clickme	kriebel: are they fixing this kind of stuff	02:28
xorwhy	psycho_oreos: ath9k performs pooly, ath5k does not. I do not need n functionality, I need functionality.	02:28
clickme	kriebel: in future ubuntu releases	02:29
kriebel	clickme: it's not a problem, if you have any understanding of how UNIX programs store your settings	02:29
acovrig	why doesn't "gnome-terminal -e "read w" --window --fullscreen --hidemenubar" work?	02:29
thestarwolf	Does anyone know why JACK will work with Ardour, but not anything else?	02:29
rodrigo3n	I have hidden the menubar of the terminal window	02:29
rkvirani	cutie_girl, what is the problem?	02:29
rodrigo3n	can it be shown again?	02:29
etzerd	Hello all	02:29
DasEi	nicketynick: have you got a live cd ?	02:29
rkvirani	BoondoKlife, so how do I get rid of grub?	02:29
etzerd	I finally found the solution for my Dell i5 1764 video card	02:29
kriebel	rodrigo3n, right click in the window, check the box	02:29
psycho_oreos	xorwhy, no, ath5k won't work with a chipset that has 802.11n capability. You might want to try the legacy madwifi driver	02:29
acovrig	rodrigo3n, "gnome-terimal --show-menubar"	02:30
BoondoKlife	rkvirani: when you restore, it should create the MBR it needs	02:30
nicketynick	DasEi: no live cd. no cdrom drive to speak of. it's a netbook. i'd have to get an image and put it on my thumb drive	02:30
etzerd	i try the Beta1 version of Ubuntu, it come with the driver for my laptop Intel Integrated video card.	02:30
rodrigo3n	acovrig, thnaks	02:30
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rkvirani	BoondoKlife, well it obviously doesnt so how do I fix it!	02:30
rodrigo3n	acovrig, thanks	02:30
Gnea	rkvirani: she doesn't know how to use the volume control	02:30
acovrig	why doesn't "gnome-terminal -e "read w" --window --fullscreen --hidemenubar" work?	02:30
xorwhy	psycho_oreos: Why won't it work?	02:30
BoondoKlife	rkvirani: call your oem, restore disks are the pits and tend to be proprietary.	02:31
kriebel	if anyone is having trouble with grub failing and getting the "grub recovery>" prompt, there are open bugs on grub2 on the web, search for them	02:31
kriebel	you might have to mess with your BIOS drive order or remove drives, or disable AHCI or some such	02:31
Gnea	cutie_girl: are you familiar with the alsamixer command?	02:31
psycho_oreos	xorwhy, because I've said it before.. read these: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/user/Drivers/ath5k http://wireless.kernel.org/en/user/Drivers/ath9k	02:31
thestarwolf	Does any know why JACK control can't work Jack... but Ardour will?	02:31
rodrigo3n	is there any way of showing the current running program on the terminal?	02:32
kriebel	rodrigo3n, `jobs`?	02:32
izmanromli	anyone having problem with dotdeb repo?	02:32
rodrigo3n	kriebel, hmm, like "Terminal - Zsh"	02:33
xorwhy	psycho_oreos: are you so sure, that if it were you, having tried everything else would not even bother to try?	02:33
Losha	rodrigo3n: ps ax will list all running programs. top will show them interactively...	02:33
NinoScript	looking for an "alt-tab" style application switcher, like the one on Gnome-Shell or MacOSX. any recommendations??	02:33
bigtom21485	how do i get songbird to add the extension for ipod?	02:33
thestarwolf	Nino I thought you could do that with compiz?	02:33
acovrig	rodrigo3n, `ps -A\|grep "program you are looking for"` for a specific program, say if you are looking for a pid	02:33
Losha	xorwhy: I see no debs for ath5k, just http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k	02:33
acovrig	why doesn't "gnome-terminal -e "read w" --window --fullscreen --hidemenubar" work?	02:34
bigtom21485	jadakren: ipod	02:34
psycho_oreos	xorwhy, your issue is simply put 802.11n capable, its probably not matured within karmic and using ath5k will never work because its not coded in	02:34
jadakren	bigtom21485, yes?	02:34
psycho_oreos	Losha, that driver is integral part of kernel	02:34
NinoScript	thestarwolf: If you can, I don't know how… They are mostly great looking window switchers, I want an application switcher	02:34
xorwhy	Losha: Thanks	02:35
bigtom21485	jadakren: why is the link to download ipod support for songbird not functional?	02:35
Losha	psycho_oreos: in that case, I'll shut up, since I obviously don't know what I'm talking about...	02:35
NinoScript	thestarwolf: or maybe there's a hard to find option to group windows?	02:35
jadakren	bigtom21485, use the songbird ppa instead	02:35
Losha	acovrig: on my system, gnome-terminal says --fullscreen is an unknown option. Try it yourself from a terminal...	02:35
rodrigo3n	kriebel, no, i meant, show the current running program name on the title bar	02:35
al-tabq	does anyone know how to configure DAAP in rhythmbox ? can't find a good howto	02:35
DasEi	that will be way to go then, as it's always safer to have the drive fuly unmounted for checks, might be (e2)fsck or testdisk or smartmontools in the deeper	02:35
kriebel	rodrigo3n, that's not what you said, at all	02:36
jadakren	bigtom21485, https://launchpad.net/~songbird-daily/+archive/ppa	02:36
acovrig	oops, I meant full-screen, Losha	02:36
* kriebel runs away from the newbs, screaming		02:36
DasEi	that will be way to go then, as it's always safer to have the drive fuly unmounted for checks, might be (e2)fsck or testdisk or smartmontools in the deeper, nicketynick	02:36
rodrigo3n	kriebel, sorry	02:36
bigtom21485	jadakren: what is the songbird ppa? songbird is very nice, (by the way, excellent suggestion. ;-) )	02:36
jadakren	bigtom21485, http://linuxers.org/howto/how-install-software-ubuntu-ppa	02:36
rodrigo3n	kriebel, but do you know how to show that?	02:36
JordanAllen	How can i view used and available disk space on Xubuntu?	02:36
thestarwolf	I have seen a Mac and tried it with Ubuntu... if you can run compiz you can download the compiz settings and check the ring switcher and set it to work	02:36
Losha	acovrig: open a terminal and type: gnome-terminal -e "read w" --window --full-screen --hidemenubar What does it say?	02:36
jadakren	bigtom21485, https://launchpad.net/+help/soyuz/ppa-sources-list.html	02:36
DasEi	JordanAllen: df -h	02:36
acovrig	Losha, nothing, it just blinks the window and goes away	02:37
JordanAllen	Df - h?	02:37
Losha	acovrig: weird, mine says: Unknown option --hidemenubar	02:37
DasEi	JordanAllen: nope, df -h, enter this in terminal	02:37
DasEi	!terminal	02:37
ubottu	The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal	02:37
acovrig	Losha, I guess I type too fast, --hide-menubar	02:37
izmanromli	how can i install php5.3 via repo?	02:38
izmanromli	i'm using Jaunty	02:38
thestarwolf	Does anyone know anything about getting JACK to work?	02:38
Losha	acovrig: that one sort of works for me, I get this huge terminal (and a smaller one behind it). I repeate, have you tried running this from a terminal?	02:38
NinoScript	thestarwolf: what I want is to group windows of the same application, like Mac's cmd+tab and Gnome-Shell's alt+tab… I don't think the ring switcher can do that	02:38
rkvirani	I re-installed windows via my computers recoverdisks but grub still shows up and now the computer is bricked, what do I do?	02:38
acovrig	Losha, I'm putting it in a shell script, and it doesn't work	02:39
DasEi	JordanAllen: also can use baobab from meta-package gnome-utils	02:39
Losha	acovrig: try it from the command line first...	02:39
JordanAllen	Where can I download that at DasEi?	02:39
DasEi	JordanAllen: that's a gui-toll (more complicated) then	02:39
MrPiracy_	i think i just screwed my ubuntu partition. live cd says it is 400mb used out of 15gb. I am pretty sure it is more than that. Also, it mounts, but no files showing. Is there any way to recover it?	02:40
DasEi	JordanAllen: *tool , sudo apt-get install gnome-utils	02:40
acovrig	nothing, not any output	02:40
NinoScript	thestarwolf: I'm not going for eye-candy, but for usability :)	02:40
bigtom21485	jadakren: how do i install it from the ipod update i just downloaded from the songbird website?	02:40
BoondoKlife	rkvirani: I think I answered that, we can't support your restore disks. They should install what you had for an MBR when you got the computer.	02:40
Losha	acovrig: weird. What happens if you just type gnome-terminal without any args?	02:41
acovrig	if I try `gnome-terminal -e "sleep 5; zenity --info" --window --full-screen --hide-menubar` it does that, but if I do -e "sleep 5" (w/out the zenity), it stays there for 5 seconds	02:41
acovrig	Losha, it works fine	02:41
BoondoKlife	rkvirani: If none of that is working then you need to call your oem and find out whats up, or ask them for a real windoes cd. Good luck with that though.	02:41
jadakren	bigtom21485, wouldn't bother with the one from the website. it has problems running on ubuntu. use the ppa instead	02:41
bigtom21485	alright	02:42
thestarwolf	I know what you mean... I don't know if it will hide all the windows... but have you tried alltray?	02:42
Professor_Generi	208 yay, 183 nay	02:42
DasEi	nicketynick: what's the os you're speaking from now ? another ubuntu-sys ?	02:42
poagester	i was wondering if anyone can help with wubi install or point me to the right channel	02:42
jadakren	!who \| thestarwolf	02:42
ubottu	thestarwolf: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)	02:42
jadakren	NinoScript, have you tried the group plugin for compiz ?	02:43
vulc4n0	no yet	02:44
Losha	acovrig: good, so your X stuff is all working. Dunno, a bug in gnome-terminal? There are other terminal progs. Does it have to be a gnome-terminal. Try an alternative: eterm, xterm, mlterm, roxterm, terminal.app, wterm, etc...	02:44
bigtom21485	jadakren: im kinda confused by the instructions on the website can you wlak me though this? i m kinda stressed out as it is	02:44
jadakren	NinoScript, also if you install compizconfig-settings-manager then you'll be able to configure the various window switchers to only switch between windows of the same app	02:44
jadakren	bigtom21485, 1) open a terminal 2) type : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:songbird-daily/ppa 3) type : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install songbird	02:45
poagester	i was wondering if anyone can help with wubi install or point me to the right channel	02:45
NinoScript	jadakren: Yes, I've tried the group plugin, but I do not want to manually grout them, I want them to be grouped becouse they are of the same application, I don't know if it can do that	02:45
jadakren	bigtom21485, this is assuming you dont already have songbird installed, which then means you'll need to remove it first'	02:45
vulc4n0	what problem do you have using WUBI	02:46
jadakren	NinoScript, i think one of the window switcher plugins has seperate keybinds for showing windows of the same app. the scale plugin(expose) does too i think	02:46
NinoScript	jadakren: and that's just the opposite of what I am looking, I want to switch to different apps, and get all of it's windows on front	02:46
jadakren	NinoScript, ok.	02:46
LtHummus	!vi	02:47
ubottu	Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code	02:47
acovrig	I changed it, I put everything I want in the -e to a script, then put that script in the -e and it works	02:47
DasEi	poagester: I'd only not recoomend wubi.. for trial even live cd is more reliable, if you neither want a dualboot or a usb install (stick), I'd recommend virtualbox	02:47
acovrig	go gedit and nano	02:47
NinoScript	jadakres: It's fun to customize linux :P	02:47
Losha	acovrig: very good...	02:47
jadakren	NinoScript, are you aware that the scale plugin lets you filter out windows by typing in words when its active ?	02:47
acovrig	now, how do I use the cmd-line to log-out a user?	02:47
acovrig	(me)	02:47
vulc4n0	your right wubi bring a have of GRUB problems	02:48
poagester	vulc4no, when i boot into the win boot loader i see the option of ubuntu, after selecting ubuntu i am left at a grub command line. ubuntu is on a separate hdd so i am not quite sure how to point to it or get to that installation	02:48
jadakren	NinoScript, that could work for you if your apps are having there window titles prefixed with the app name	02:48
Dadud	im having problems running ubuntu on virtual box.. it boots in low graphics mode after i try installing the guest additions	02:48
acovrig	nevermind, how do I use rsync with ssh without asking for a passwd?	02:48
gbear14275	anyone able to tell me how to fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/399081/	02:48
jadakren	Dadud, you've explained the basics... but what is the issue ?	02:48
acovrig	ssh-keys evidentily doesn't work :(	02:48
DasEi	Dadud: boot in rescue mode, issue : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	02:48
jadakren	bigtom21485, is that working for you ?	02:49
bigtom21485	yep :-)	02:49
NinoScript	jadakren: didn't know that… just tried it, didn't work :P is there an option for that?	02:49
Dadud	give me a sec, im kinda multitasking hardcore here and bleh.	02:49
linuxcreeper	I'm having trouble with a wireless mouse/keyboard combo for 9.10 on PS3. Any who can help with that? I tried doing "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-input-synaptic" but it tells me it couldn't find t he package	02:49
jadakren	NinoScript, might be i forget	02:49
poagester	DasEi, when i try the live disk it claims there is not a live fs to use	02:50
acovrig	trying to use rsync	02:50
DasEi	acovrig: you will have to set ssh to hot based authentification and make sure the keys are on both machines, it's in /etc/ssh/ssh_config	02:51
bigtom21485	jadakren: what is the command-line method of installing (ppa) the ipod add-on for linux 64?	02:51
jadakren	NinoScript, actually that wont do waht you want... have a look at Xtile.	02:51
bigtom21485	jadakren: if i wasnt so tired i would be studying command-line more	02:51
DasEi	acovrig:*host-based	02:51
jadakren	bigtom21485, what do you mean by 'ipod addon'	02:51
epaphus	Hello all... today I installed ubuntu base only with the minimal CD, and did apt-get install gnome-core gdm human-theme x11-xserver-utils ... and that automatically installed openoffice.. why ????	02:51
acovrig	DasEi, I copied the contents of ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub to the server at ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and it works fine in ssh, but not in automated rsync	02:52
nightsjammies	##apple Cannot send to channel	02:52
nightsjammies	how do I fix that?	02:52
bigtom21485	well theres no lace on songbird that says "Devices" like i wouldve thought	02:52
Andorin	I'm following the Ubuntu wiki's guide to restoring grub after installing Windows on a partition. When I run "sudo grubinstall etc etc etc" I get an error: http://pastebin.com/UMTup4gL	02:52
bigtom21485	and its not seeing my ipod that my computer is seeing	02:52
DasEi	acovrig: but you told rsync to use ssh with (if other then 22 ) right port ?	02:52
NinoScript	jadakren: what's that? :O	02:53
linuxcreeper	I'm having trouble with a wireless mouse/keyboard combo for 9.10 on PS3. Any who can help with that? I tried doing "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-input-synaptic" but it tells me it couldn't find t he package	02:53
Richiie	hello i have a question im having trouble installing Utorrent 2.0 under wine anyone have a clue ?	02:54
nightsjammies	yeah, use ktorrent	02:54
bigtom21485	jadakren: its not seeing my ipod so dont i need to get the ipod add-on?	02:54
xangua	Richiie: use a native torrent app	02:54
Richiie	when i open the Utorrent.exe file under wine it just starts but i really wanna install it, is it possible? Just because i have some tweak settings i really dont want to enter every single time im starting Utorrent	02:54
nightsjammies	I mean, sorry. That's not a solution. Just better imo	02:54
gbear14275	Richiie: deluge :)	02:55
Richiie	xangua: yeah but the problem is that Transmissoion etc is banned on big private trackers	02:55
bigtom21485	anyone know how to add the ipod add-on for songbird?	02:55
jadakren	bigtom21485, i assume so... i dont have an ipod anymore : http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/12	02:55
nightsjammies	there's an ipod addon for songbird?	02:55
xangua	tnasmission is not the only torrent app	02:55
epaphus	why does this in a minimal install end up installing openoffice suite? apt-get install gnome-core gdm human-theme x11-xserver-utils	02:55
rkvirani	BoondoKlife, http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/96509133/m/254009228831	02:55
xangua	nightsjammies: yes, but appears that doesn't wrk with the latest ipod/iphone	02:56
Richiie	xangua: is Deluge good for torrent sites that are private ? for example torrentleech	02:56
anev	is there problems with apt-get update for anyone?	02:56
bigtom21485	jadakren: what do you use for a portable music player?	02:56
anev	i keep getting a "forbidden" error	02:56
acovrig	DasEi, I used `rsync -raz --delete --progress --size-only "/home/$USER/*" user@server.ip:/home/$USER`	02:56
jadakren	bigtom21485, my netbook.	02:56
acovrig	anev, are you root?	02:56
linuxcreeper	Can anyone help me with getting the mouse part of a wireless mouse/keyboard combo working in 9.1?	02:56
izmanromli	is there any php5.3 repository for Jaunty?	02:56
anev	acovrig: of course	02:56
bigtom21485	jadakren: lol i need something that fits in an armband	02:56
gbear14275	Richiie: transmission isn't banned by any of the trackers I've found... although utorrent has been banned by a couple (new protocol favors utorrent over others)	02:56
nightsjammies	then it does me no good. back to lucid and vbox then	02:56
anev	acovrig: it's saying IP Forbidden	02:57
jadakren	bigtom21485, have you tried using rhythmbox or banshee ?	02:57
anev	acovrig: as in error 403	02:57
Richiie	gbear14275: ok but is Azureuz (Vuze) good? or is it too bloated?	02:57
acovrig	anev, lol, noob mistake, just checking; are you using any special source?	02:57
Richiie	gbear14275: i mean its like a community in the tracker lol :P	02:57
anev	acovrig: i was using the irish servers but changed to the main respositories but same deal? it's as if all teh servers have banned my ip?	02:58
gbear14275	I personally like knowing what is in my torrent applications... so I use open source ones.	02:58
acovrig	anev, us.archive.ubuntu.com, security.ubuntu.com is what I use	02:58
gbear14275	deluge I have found to be fantastic	02:58
anev	acovrig: ill give them a try now and see	02:59
gbear14275	only a couple quirks	02:59
Richiie	gbear14275: is it possible to tweak Deluge ?	02:59
Richiie	gbear14275: speed tweak it	02:59
gbear14275	tweak like what?	02:59
Richiie	gbear14275: let me show	02:59
gbear14275	ok	02:59
Andorin	I'm following the Ubuntu wiki's guide to restoring grub after installing Windows on a partition. When I run "sudo grubinstall etc etc etc" I get an error: http://pastebin.com/UMTup4gL	02:59
rtscts	anyone know how to enable rts/cts in ubuntu (iwconfig isn't setting it)?	03:00
Richiie	gbear14275: like this example for Utorrent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mol2Yae_OQg	03:00
gbear14275	Andorin: I ran into a grub issue today	03:00
gbear14275	try running grup-update Andorin	03:00
acovrig	I used `rsync -raz --delete --progress --size-only "/home/$USER/*" user@server.ip:/home/$USER`, server is ssh/sftp key-gened, I can ssh w/out a password, why doesn't it work?	03:00
Joeseph	I just installed ubuntu on a machine via a usb drive. Now I'm looking to install the ndis package so I can connect to the internet. However, for that, I have to have the CD to install it from, but I do not have a working cd player in the pc. What's the best way to get ndiswrapper installed on this cd-less internet-less machine?	03:00
kingrayray	hey! can anybody recommend a webcam that works 100% perfect in linux? im tired of trying to get my uvcvideo cam to work lol	03:00
Andorin	gbear14275: I'm on a live CD, just so you know.	03:00
Losha	Andorin: why sda1, and not /dev/sda ?	03:01
anev	acovrig: same deal.. "failed to fetch <url to us repo> error 403 forbidden"	03:01
Andorin	Losha: Because I can't read. That fixed it. Thank you. ^^	03:02
linuxcreeper	I'm having trouble with a wireless mouse/keyboard combo for 9.10 on PS3. Any who can help with that? I tried doing "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-input-synaptic" but it tells me it couldn't find t he package	03:02
Losha	Andorin: :-). World:0 Losha:2	03:02
jadakren	NinoScript, are you using docky by chance ? maybe try that	03:03
nightsjammies	I'm partial to the in-screen search function of ktorrent.	03:03
acovrig	that's wierd, all my http ones work, but why is it trying to pull from cdrom://?	03:03
Losha	acovrig: any error messages?	03:03
gbear14275	Richiie: thats possible with any client	03:03
anev	acovrig: ugh, figured it out. stale http_proxy environment variable in the session.	03:03
jadakren	nightsjammies, ?	03:03
anev	acovrig: cheers	03:03
rtscts	anyone know how to enable rts/cts in ubuntu (iwconfig isn't setting it)?	03:03
nightsjammies	yes?	03:03
acovrig	how do I not have it pull from the cdrom:// when doing `apt-get update`?	03:03
Joeseph	I'm looking to install the ndiswrapper-common package so I can connect to the internet. However, for that, I have to have the CD to install it from, but I do not have a working cd player in the pc. What's the best way to get ndiswrapper installed on this cd-less internet-less machine?	03:03
nightsjammies	and how do you guys do that highlite thing with names?	03:04
garyga	wergerg	03:04
bigtom21485	anyone know how to tell songbird to copy my existing ipod library to my new linux computer that doesnt have any music?	03:04
nightsjammies	er, tab search, I mean	03:04
bigtom21485	and sync the two in the future	03:04
RainSoul	can anyone help with an install	03:04
gbear14275	Richiie: why don't you try deluge out and see how you like it	03:04
gbear14275	then try out other clients and see how you like them	03:04
nightsjammies	not a clue. what firmware are you using in your ipod?	03:04
bigtom21485	nightsjammies: how do i tell?	03:04
etzerd	is anyone here tried the beta1 yet?	03:05
nightsjammies	what kinda ipod are you using?	03:05
Losha	acovrig: edit the sources list, there's an option in synaptic, or by hand somewhere under /etc/apt	03:05
rtscts	!ask \| RainSoul	03:05
ubottu	RainSoul: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	03:05
bigtom21485	120gb classic 5 gen	03:05
bigtom21485	nightsjammies: 120gb classic 5th gen	03:05
nightsjammies	umm, go into settings, I think	03:05
jadakren	bigtom21485, are you sure its a 5th gen because they only went up to 80gb	03:05
acovrig	Losha, would the gui System/Administration/Software Sources do it?	03:05
nightsjammies	search for an about screen.	03:05
bigtom21485	jadakren: its a classic 120gb	03:05
jadakren	bigtom21485, ok so its not a real 5th gen then.	03:06
nightsjammies	and gtkpod doesn't work with it?	03:06
Losha	acovrig: I think so (I always hand edit). Is there a cdrom option you can untick?	03:06
bigtom21485	if i type in my serial number can apple tell me what gen it is?	03:06
bigtom21485	or someone else	03:06
acovrig	dechecked and removed, but it still does it...	03:06
gbear14275	Richiie: how about asking on your favorite trackers what everyone there uses?	03:06
gbear14275	then use one of those	03:06
poagester	maybe someone can assist me with installing ubuntu with windows xp installed first. i get the following error: unable to find a medium containing a live file system	03:06
jadakren	bigtom21485, look at this table : http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodPort#Rockbox_Status	03:07
poagester	booting from the live disk	03:07
bikcmp	Hello everyone, I said this to #ubuntu-server, but it's dead in there. I'm trying to setup UEC on my box, but, as always, it doesn't quite work as expected.	03:07
Losha	Richiie: it's no big deal. You can change clients later on. Deluge or transmission seem to get good reviews...	03:07
bikcmp	http://pastebin.com/VzVUJ2pU	03:07
jadakren	bigtom21485, according to that table yours is : 2nd Gen Classic (120GB)	03:07
RainSoul	so anyways.......................... i burned UBUNTU 9.10 at 4x speed and booted up. pressed install. Everything seemed to be going fine until it landed on a brownish screen with no icons or writing, the cd rom light stopped blinking, and it stayed that way for almost an hour. i finally rebooted. any ideas what thats about?	03:07
NinoScript	jadakren: yes, I'm using docky and gnome-do, but I'm looking for keyboard shortcuts	03:07
acovrig	Losha, nevermind, it was the 1st line in /etc/apt/sources.list, lol guess the gui didn't do it	03:07
bigtom21485	nightsjammies: it is 2.0.1 PC	03:07
bikcmp	RainSoul: Try reburning.	03:07
acovrig	anyone know why rsync doesn't use the ssh keys?	03:07
nightsjammies	probably.	03:08
jadakren	NinoScript, so what you want is for alt_tab to just show apps not windows.	03:08
rtscts	anyone know how to enable rts/cts in ubuntu (iwconfig isn't setting it)?	03:08
Losha	acovrig: guis. Bah, humbug...	03:08
bigtom21485	okay so i have a 120gb 2nd gen classic	03:08
bigtom21485	whoops	03:08
bigtom21485	doesnt look that old	03:08
Losha	bikcmp: so set the EC2_ACCESS_KEY environment variable...	03:08
acovrig	Losha, lol - ssh rocks	03:08
jadakren	bigtom21485, its alot mroe recent than a 5th gen ipod video :)	03:08
RainSoul	im startung to think its the burner i used cuz i tried installing linux mint/puppy AND jolicloud	03:08
Losha	acovrig: :-)	03:08
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NinoScript	jadakren: yes :)	03:08
nightsjammies	okay, so have you tried gtkpod?	03:08
RainSoul	burner software*	03:09
bikcmp	Losha: TO anything specific?	03:09
bigtom21485	1) it thinks its blank (since trying floola it can't see its own 30gb of music library), and 2) my computer doesnt wanna copy the files to the music folder of my home folder	03:09
Losha	bikcmp: that'll be in the documentation for euca-create-volume I imagine. I've never heard of it myself...	03:10
acovrig	anyone know why rsync doesn't use the ssh keys?	03:10
jadakren	bigtom21485, use the repair function of floola	03:10
nightsjammies	ahh, okay.	03:10
nightsjammies	what about rhythmbox?	03:10
rtscts	acovrig: the ssh keys are in ~HOME/.ssh (not in .rsync)	03:10
nightsjammies	or itunes 7 in wine?	03:10
bigtom21485	ahh...yeah floola flipped out on my computer also im not sure if i trust that is there another way?	03:10
bigtom21485	and no itunes either	03:10
nightsjammies	why not?	03:10
jadakren	bigtom21485, the db file just probably corrupted	03:11
nightsjammies	to the no itunes, I mean?	03:11
bigtom21485	the whole point is to stay away from windows	03:11
epaphus	why does this in a minimal install end up installing openoffice suite? apt-get install gnome-core gdm human-theme x11-xserver-utils	03:11
bigtom21485	just to prove a point	03:11
Losha	acovrig: my rsync certainly does. Try using e,g, rsync -e 'ssh -l user -i file_path_to_key' ....	03:11
bob999	I am using (under Add To Panel...) several instances of Weather Report (gweather?) and one has not updated for a couple of weeks. I called the weather service, but they can't help until I can tell them from where Weather Report pulls its information. Any Weather Report gurus here?	03:11
nightsjammies	okay.	03:11
acovrig	rtscts, I know, but I want to automate rsync, and not have to type in a passwd, I did the ssh-keygen correctly, it works normally, just not for rsync, how do I fix this?	03:11
imame	Hello	03:11
bigtom21485	jadakren: hwo do i repair it with floola?	03:11
jadakren	!who \| nightsjammies	03:11
ruffleS	hi. how can i add a boot parameter that will last even after updates*	03:11
ubottu	nightsjammies: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)	03:11
jadakren	bigtom21485, look in the menus	03:11
nightsjammies	so...!tab Aciid	03:12
chd	so I run sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts and then I get a screen that contains the Sun Operating System Distributor License for Java. but it doesn't let me do fucking anything from there. wtf am I supposed to do?	03:12
nightsjammies	hmmno	03:12
poagester	maybe someone can assist me with installing ubuntu with windows xp installed first. i get the following error when trying to boot from the live disk: unable to find a medium containing a live file system	03:12
GSF1200S	In case you guys didnt know, MusicBrainz Picard is awesome	03:12
linuxcreeper	I've been trying to look on the net, but I can't find how to get my mouse to work for Ubuntu 9.10 on the PS3	03:12
nightsjammies	okay, how do I use that who command?	03:12
Losha	poagester: a bad burn on the cd? It's not even getting to first base..	03:13
nightsjammies	!tab Aciid	03:13
nightsjammies	no	03:13
NinoScript	!help	03:13
ubottu	Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	03:13
jadakren	nightsjammies, the point is that you should just prefix your messages with your recipents name... you're not the only one in this room having a convo	03:13
poagester	Losha: second burn at lowest speed of my burner with the same result. I was able to use wubi and install it that way but it stops a a grub cli	03:14
jadakren	!who \| nightsjammies	03:14
ubottu	nightsjammies: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)	03:14
nightsjammies	ah, okay. so how do I use the hightlite thing?	03:14
jadakren	nightsjammies, just put their name in the message.	03:14
acovrig	Losha, key file path on client, or server?	03:14
NinoScript	!tab	03:14
ubottu	You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.	03:14
nightsjammies	okay.	03:14
rtscts	anyone know how to enable rts/cts in ubuntu (iwconfig isn't setting it)?	03:15
jadakren	nightsjammies, xchat and irssi both support tab completion.	03:15
chd	so I run sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts and then I get a screen that contains the Sun Operating System Distributor License for Java. but it doesn't let me do fucking anything from there. wtf am I supposed to do?	03:15
kingrayray	what's the easiest webcam to use with ubuntu? and has anybody got a logitech quickcam pro 5000 working?	03:15
jadakren	kingrayray, no.	03:15
Losha	acovrig: key file path on the client. You aren't expected to know anything about the details on the server, which could, after all, be a windows machine running some weird-ass sshd server...	03:15
rtscts	chd: scroll to the bottom and select accept; it will let you continue	03:15
bigtom21485	jadakren: it doesnt work! is there another way?	03:16
chd	rtscts, all it says is ok, and I can't select shit	03:16
nightsjammies	oh	03:16
rtscts	chd: try F8 and enter	03:16
jadakren	kingrayray, mainly because 1) i dont have one and 2) "it doesn't work" doesnt really say much as a bug report.	03:16
chd	rtscts, k I need to restart	03:16
linuxcreeper	Is there any way to get a wireless mouse/keyboard combo working on 9.1 or am I going to have to get a separate USB mouse?	03:17
kingrayray	well I mean this camera has been a pain in my back for years under linux. I don't know if its just the uvcvideo driver or what, but im shopping for a new one that does just work	03:17
dsnyders	!ldap	03:17
ubottu	LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information, installation instructions and getting clients to authenticate via LDAP see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer	03:17
poagester	Losha: will it help more if I tell you it does it with 9.10 and 9.04	03:17
bigtom21485	jadakren: floola doesn't repair it when i tell it to, then after says its repaired and its going to quit, it just sits there...i have to force it to quit...and my ipod is still fucked up	03:17
jadakren	bigtom21485, there might be if my ipod battery didnt die 3 years after i bought my 5th gen, but since im just operating from 5 year old knowledge through someone that doesnt have a good amount of experience with linux and apple products... theres only so much i can suggest.	03:18
Losha	kingrayray: when I want ubuntu compatible hardware (always) I go to newegg and check the reviews for things that say they work fine with ubuntu. Sometimes an ebay search will help too...	03:18
rtscts	anyone know how to enable rts/cts/frag in ubuntu (iwconfig isn't setting it)?	03:18
kingrayray	Losha: yeah that's kinda what I've been doing, was just thinking maybe someone had one that worked well and had a quick reccomendation lol	03:19
jadakren	bigtom21485, 1) mount the ipod 2) look in the folders for music files. 3) rejoice 4) plug the ipod back in to the windows machine running itunes 5) repair. 6) start over with using banshee or rhythmbox	03:19
Losha	poagester: you're saying you can't boot any of 9.10 and 9.04?	03:19
bigtom21485	anyone know how to fix an ipod that can't see its own music?	03:19
poagester	Losha: that is correct	03:19
Losha	kingrayray: bigger sample size with newegg -> more reliable opinions...	03:19
kadimi	Hello - Anyone installed OSQA on ubuntu driven server??( OSQA: OS question and answers written with Django)	03:20
kingrayray	well I wasn't going to just jump and buy something someone on irc suggested.. obviously	03:20
jadakren	bigtom21485, maybe try this in wine : http://www.getsharepod.com/download/	03:20
acovrig	Losha, I am using ubuntu for both client and server; I am using a blank passkey for the id_rsa.pub key (for simplicity) and it still asks for a pass	03:20
sobczyk	hi, how to properly disable hdd power management?	03:20
Losha	poagester: is your cdrom know to work ok in windows (I presume that's how you burned the cds?). Otherwise, if it's not the cdrom, I'd have to guess there's something in your hardware that's incompatible with Ubuntu...	03:21
User4434	My Ubuntu is lagging. It has been lagging since i installed it, is there anything i can do about this?	03:21
Richiie	gbear14275: did you see the youtube link i sended? :P	03:21
bigtom21485	brb	03:21
dsnyders	User4434, What do you mean by lagging?	03:22
Richiie	on asking if it can be tweaked	03:22
Losha	acovrig: if it asks for a pass, it's obviously not finding the key, or the server isn't accepting it. Did you try the -e thing?	03:22
poagester	Losha: I burned the disks using k3b on my gentoo box, no problems yet with that burner. I am just not familiar with how ubuntu works. the drives in the box i am trying to install ubuntu on are a little sketchy, because the box isn't mine. I just want to dual boot it and get it out of here	03:22
User4434	It is slow, it takes everything a while to load	03:23
rtscts	anyone know how to enable rts/cts/frag in ubuntu (iwconfig isn't setting it)?	03:23
gbear14275	yes Richiie, looks like setting up of a client... nothing special to utorrent	03:23
User4434	The internet and everything is okay. But everything else takes time to load.	03:23
chd	rtscts, didn't fuckin work	03:23
gbear14275	google "howto setup bittorrent client"	03:23
Losha	poagester: I'd try one more time with 8.04. It's the most stable release and uses grub1 while 9.X uses grub2...	03:23
acovrig	yup, `rsync -raz --delete --progress --size-only -e 'ssh -l server_user -i /path/to/client/id_rsa.pub/file' "/client/dir/*" user@server.ip:/path/to/server/dir`	03:24
rtscts	chd: try open java as an alternative	03:24
Losha	chd: please don't use f-bombs,,,	03:24
poagester	Losha: k, I wasn't sure if that version was still supported	03:24
poagester	Losha: ill give it a shot and be back in a few hours if it doesn't work. thanx for your help	03:25
acovrig	poaester, u can download it from their site w/out going to arcive, last I checked	03:25
Losha	poagester: sadly, I'll probably still be here...	03:25
poagester	Losha: youre like me	03:25
acovrig	Losha: yup, `rsync -raz --delete --progress --size-only -e 'ssh -l server_user -i /path/to/client/id_rsa.pub/file' "/client/dir/*" user@server.ip:/path/to/server/dir`	03:25
researcher1	yesterday I received a message on Pidgin messenger that my IP is banned on @irc.ubuntu.com. Suddenly it has started now. What may be the reason? I have never broken the standards of chat here .	03:26
NinoScript	is there a channel for Gnome-Shell?	03:26
Losha	acovrig: what happens?	03:26
Umde	!info flashplugin-nonfree	03:26
ubottu	flashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transitional package). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10.0.45.2ubuntu0.9.10.1 (karmic), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)	03:26
rtscts	researcher: are you on an ISP with dynamic IPs (like SBC)?	03:26
dsnyders	researcher1, Unless you have a static ip address anyone could have used that IP and gotten it banned temporarily	03:26
Losha	poagester: lots of nerds here. I feel at home...	03:27
researcher1	dsnynders:how do I guard myself against such a thing ?	03:27
acovrig	Enter passphrase for key '/path/to/client/keyfile':, then user@server.ip's password:	03:27
researcher1	acovring: Please explain the step.Im quite new	03:28
bigtom21485	anyone know how to repair an ipod that cannot see its own files even when songbird can	03:28
acovrig	Losha, Enter passphrase for key '/path/to/client/keyfile':, then user@server.ip's password:	03:28
rtscts	anyone know how to enable rts/cts/frag in ubuntu (iwconfig isn't setting it)??	03:28
dsnyders	researcher1, Well, you could spring for a static IP from your ISP, or try a disconnect/reconnect to see if you get another ip address.	03:28
Losha	researcher1: good question, I don't know how you can prevent such a thing...	03:28
Losha	acovrig: that doesn't sound right, I thought there was no passphrase on the key?	03:29
NinoScript	Losha: yes, lots of us are geeks/nerds :P	03:29
researcher1	how do i check what IP I get every time I connect.	03:29
dsnyders	researcher1, ... or use a proxy.	03:29
Umde	!info flashplugin-installer	03:29
ubottu	flashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10.0.45.2ubuntu0.9.10.1 (karmic), package size 19 kB, installed size 184 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)	03:29
bigtom21485	jadakren: you there	03:29
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acovrig	there isn't, if i type ssh user@server.ip, it works fine, no paraphrase or password	03:29
researcher1	rtscts:im on dynamic address	03:29
Losha	researcher1: how do you connect?	03:29
dsnyders	researcher1, I wouldn't worry about it unless it happens a lot.	03:29
unop	researcher1, http://whatismyip.com/	03:29
MrPiracy_	my ubuntu partition only shows "lost+found" ... how can i repair this partition?	03:29
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acovrig	Losha, there isn't, if i type ssh user@server.ip, it works fine, no paraphrase or password	03:30
graham	hrllo	03:30
graham	can anyone help me?	03:30
researcher1	broasdband, govt.connection. through ADSL modem	03:30
rtscts	!ask \| graham	03:30
ubottu	graham: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	03:30
dsnyders	graham, nobody can help you until you ask your question. We ain't psychic.	03:30
jadakren	bigtom21485, yes	03:30
budah	anyone use what.cd?	03:31
Losha	acovrig: I've never tried it with rsync, but can you add -v to the ssh command part to get verbose debugging?	03:31
graham	ok well I am trying to install ubuntu on my computer. I did the disk check for the CD and the install still failed.	03:31
acovrig	Losha, let me get this streight, I run `ssh-keygen -t rsa` on client, copy contents of ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub to `~./ssh/authorized_keys` on the server, right?	03:31
bigtom21485	I'm just gunna run itunes for now do you have any other ideas?	03:31
bigtom21485	jadakren: im just gunna run itunes for now on wine...is there a better way to do this?	03:31
dsnyders	graham, how far did it get? Were there any error messages? Any symptoms of trouble?	03:31
graham	the error was something along the lines of something was unable tobe found	03:32
izmanromli	aptitude still send me 'Size mismatch', how to fix that?	03:32
Pokeruler	Quattron.	03:32
linuxcreeper	I know I've asked a couple times already, but no one has answered, so here it is again in case it just got lost in the scrolling.... Can anyone help me with getting a mouse on a wireless mouse/keyboard combo working on 9.1?	03:32
jadakren	bigtom21485, yes. use rockbox instead of appleod on your ipod.	03:32
jadakren	bigtom21485, appleOS*	03:33
Losha	acovrig: yes, but we know that part is working, because you said you can ssh from client to server without having to give a passphrase or password, right? You could try running ssh -v to see what the debug output looks like in the working case, then try it within rsync and compare the debug traces...	03:33
linuxcreeper	9.10*	03:33
bigtom21485	jadakren: you mean change the firmware on my ipod?	03:33
dsnyders	graham, You said you did the disk check for the CD. Do you mean you verified your download with md5sum?	03:33
graham	no i did the disk check on the disk itself. the md2sum is too hard. i am no good with CMD	03:34
jadakren	bigtom21485, yes. rockbox has a windows installer utility. makes it easy. it then means that you just dump music on your ipod like a usb hardrive and dnt need to sync.	03:34
linuxcreeper	I get no error messages, the mouse simply does not run. The mouse does, however, work in the petitboot startup menu	03:34
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melik	syo	03:34
jadakren	bigtom21485, you can also dualboot with appleOS and rockbox	03:34
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acovrig	Losha, verbose at http://pastebin.com/18rKVxUu given "dummys" is my local use and "pub" is my server user	03:34
bigtom21485	jadakren: dualboot what? i have linux ubuntu	03:34
jadakren	bigtom21485, im talking about your ipod not your computer.	03:35
graham	also, there were 5 versions to download via torrent. what's with the amd and i386 and desktop and alternative versions?	03:35
bigtom21485	alright i dont have access to windows right now so what are my options	03:35
Jordan_U	poagester: There is a known bug with wubi currently, here is the fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/477104/comments/90	03:35
bigtom21485	jadakren: i dont have access to windows right now so what are my options for better ipod firmware	03:35
Losha	acovrig: that's exactly how it should look. Now try it with rsync and we'll compare...	03:35
dsnyders	graham, okay. md5sum is a tool to verify that the download completed properly. The various versions are versions that have been tuned/tweaked for different cpus and intended uses.	03:37
jadakren	bigtom21485, better is relative term. i used rockbox because it meant i didnt have to use sync software to get music on my ipod. i just used the ipod like a harddrive and rockbox lets you browse the drive like a file manager or it can give gnre/artist/album view too...	03:37
acovrig	Losha, what do u mean, rsync --junk -v>pastebin?	03:37
jadakren	bigtom21485, http://www.rockbox.org/	03:37
jadakren	bigtom21485, http://mikesubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-install-rockbox-and-extras-on.html	03:37
jadakren	bigtom21485, ignore those wget steps.	03:38
dsnyders	graham, I'd suggest retrying the install, and take note of exactly what the error message is, and then come back and ask.	03:38
Losha	acovrig: I mean: `rsync -raz --delete --progress --size-only -e 'ssh -l -v server_user -i /path/to/client/id_rsa.pub/file' "/client/dir/*" user@server.ip:/path/to/server/dir` <-- note the -v flag to ssh	03:38
bigtom21485	jadakren: what if i want a copy of my library on my computer in case my ipod is somewhere else or just in case?	03:38
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linuxcreeper	Well, I can control the mouse pointer with my keyboard, but that isn't q uite what I want...	03:39
jadakren	bigtom21485, i did that too... because i had rockbox on the ipod i just used the file manager to move songs across	03:39
jadakren	bigtom21485, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility#Download	03:40
jadakren	bigtom21485, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/GraphicalInstall	03:40
jadakren	bigtom21485, sorry should of read this in more detail : http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodPort. your ipod is not supported.	03:41
bigtom21485	jadakren: i see...and i tried itunes in wine it cant even finish installing	03:41
linuxcreeper	jadakren: You seem to know a bit. Do you know how to get mouse working for Ubuntu 9.10 on PS3? It's wireless, but not bluetooth	03:41
jadakren	bigtom21485, yeah known problem. try restoring it with a windows copy then.	03:42
acovrig	Losha, http://pastebin.com/Eqhhmm5C	03:42
jadakren	linuxcreeper, it should just be recognised as a ps2 or usb mouse.	03:42
bigtom21485	whats the latest version of itunes to run properly on wine?	03:42
bigtom21485	thats for anyone in the room	03:42
s1gmab3ta	anyone good at openoffice calc spreadsheets?	03:43
jadakren	bigtom21485, 7 i think.	03:43
linuxcreeper	jadakren: Hm. Well, it's a dual setup, mouse and keyboard off the same wireless connector. The keyboard works fine, but mouse does not	03:43
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jadakren	bigtom21485, but the problem is that your ipod has touched version 9 so it wont talk to any other version	03:43
s1gmab3ta	i have a scatter plot with y values that go from 0-100 and x values that go from 0-10. but i'd like to see just the Y values from 60-100 (because the rest is empty.) anyone know how to do that	03:43
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bigtom21485	jadakren: can i hack the firmware to take it back to where it was?	03:44
dsnyders	s1gmab3ta, Stand by... checking	03:44
jadakren	linuxcreeper, so : [playstation] =[rf connector] = \|\|----1 mouse \|\|-----2 keyboard	03:44
acovrig	Losha, http://pastebin.com/Eqhhmm5C	03:45
jadakren	bigtom21485, not sure. thats out of my depth.	03:45
Jeeves_Moss	can anyone reccomend a good time lapse program for Ubuntu?	03:45
graham	dsnyders: will you be here for a while?	03:45
linuxcreeper	jadakren: Yep, that's exactly it	03:45
Jeeves_Moss	I need to be able to caputre multipule cams	03:45
Losha	acovrig: interesting, see how reading the private key fails at line 33. I wonder if rsync assumes there will always be a passphrase on the key? Nothing to lose at this stage by putting a passphrase on the key I suppose and trying it...	03:45
jadakren	linuxcreeper, no chance for mouse and keyboard to have their own dongles? (rf connectors aren't very robust)	03:46
linuxcreeper	jadakren: I saw something on some forums that said to try "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-input-synaptic" but terminal said no package found.	03:46
linuxcreeper	jadakren: No, unfortunately. They came in a package this way	03:46
jadakren	linuxcreeper, it if was me then i would just use a wired usb mouse	03:47
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izmanromli	is anyone has experience install php5.3 using dotdeb repo?	03:47
linuxcreeper	jadakren: they worked just fine like this on 9.04, but with the upgrade to 9.10 the mouse quit.	03:47
jadakren	izmanromli, you have a specific need for 5.3 ?	03:47
linuxcreeper	jadakren: yea, I'm guessing I'm just going to have to. Just need to find one, if there's one lying around somewhere here	03:47
jadakren	linuxcreeper, what does lsusb tell you ?	03:48
bigtom21485	alright i dont have access to a computer with windows...great	03:48
izmanromli	jadakren: i have some team project based on php5.3	03:48
bigtom21485	alright if anyone knows how to repair (or format) an ipod using linux, please tell me	03:48
jadakren	izmanromli, what is the php5 version in the ubuntu repos ?	03:48
izmanromli	jadakren: it's 5.2	03:48
jadakren	izmanromli, ok and 5.3 only comes from dotdeb ? (is it dotdeb and not getdeb?)	03:49
izmanromli	jadakren: yes, the only repo i found is dotdeb.org	03:49
izmanromli	jadakren: when i tried to install libapache2, it always says error fetching packages	03:50
acovrig	Losha, no change, keys fail with "PEM_read_PrivateKey failed" after asking for my passphrase, but ssh works fine by itself :-/	03:50
jadakren	izmanromli, im not sure that repo will work with ubuntu... it only has repos for straight debian	03:51
jadakren	izmanromli, http://php53.dotdeb.org/dists/	03:51
bigtom21485	jadakren: what were some other programs you might reccommend once i fix my ipod?	03:51
acovrig	Losha, can I pipe, or something like that for my password?	03:51
izmanromli	jadakren: hmmm, i found this http://www.robsearles.com/2009/10/04/installing-php53-on-ubuntu-jaunty/	03:52
jadakren	bigtom21485, well since songbird dropped support for ipods it wont be that... but maybe check out the ppa version of banshee	03:52
izmanromli	jadakren: but it's not working on my machine	03:52
jadakren	izmanromli, what version of ubuntu are you using (it is assumed that people are using 9.10 if they dont say so)	03:53
BoondoKlife	bigtom21485: I have an ipod nano 2nd gen and banshee kills it everytime. Rhythembox works though. Atleast that is my experience.	03:53
jadakren	BoondoKlife, yeah does rhythmbox need a plugin turned on to work with the ipod ?	03:53
linuxcreeper	jadakren: I can't copy and paste what lsusb tells me, I'm working on a separate laptop here, and I can't select text in the terminal on the PS3	03:53
BoondoKlife	jadakren: Yes but it is enabled by default	03:53
jadakren	linuxcreeper, thats ok, do you see the rf dongle there... does it mention the keyboard and mouse ?	03:54
BoondoKlife	jadakren: Err installed and enabled	03:54
linuxcreeper	jadakren: No, it does not.	03:54
izmanromli	jadakren: Jaunty, and the tutor i posted is about jaunty	03:54
jadakren	BoondoKlife, thought so. bigtom21485 you should check out the ubuntu repo for all the rhythmbox plugins	03:54
bigtom21485	jadakren: what were those commands im guessing i just substitue the name banshee instead of songbird in the command lines in the terminal	03:54
bigtom21485	alright	03:55
BoondoKlife	bigtom21485: Just check under the rhythembox prefs and see if it is there first. It should be	03:55
BoondoKlife	I really wish banshee did work though as i like its interface better.	03:55
s1gmab3ta	dsnyders: any luck?	03:55
bigtom21485	oh rythembox has always worked	03:56
dsnyders	s1gmab3ta, Okay, Right click on the axis you want to adjust. Select object properties. There is a scale tab. Everything is defaulted to automatic. Uncheck the automatic and adjust the ranges as desired.	03:56
bigtom21485	but i wanna be able to sync with my computer...so i have a backup copy	03:56
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s1gmab3ta	dsnyders: just out of curiosity where did you get that	03:57
dsnyders	s1gmab3ta, combination of creating a chart in OOCalc, and google search.	03:58
linuxcreeper	jadakren: If I can find it, would installing the CD that came with the keyboard/mouse possibly help?	03:58
s1gmab3ta	dsnyders: oh alright, just checking. the ooo documentation was no help	03:58
dsnyders	s1gmab3ta, Were you able to get it to work?	03:58
s1gmab3ta	dsnyders: like a charm	03:58
jadakren	linuxcreeper, does the cd have ubuntu debs on it ?	03:58
izmanromli	jadakren: do you know where i can find php5.3 repo?	03:59
linuxcreeper	jadakren: That I do not know. It worked automatically with 9.04, so I never bothered with the CD	03:59
jadakren	izmanromli, no but that page you linked seems to be the way... you didnt say why it didnt work.	03:59
linuxcreeper	jadakren: I suppose it's worth a shot though	04:00
s1gmab3ta	dsnyders: thanks!	04:00
jadakren	linuxcreeper, i would start by taking the machine id of the rf dongle and googleing it against karmic	04:00
dsnyders	s1gmab3ta, YW!	04:00
izmanromli	jadakren: it always error fetching when i tried to install libapache2	04:00
jadakren	izmanromli, "libapache2-mod-php5" you mean ?	04:01
izmanromli	jadakren: yes	04:01
jadakren	izmanromli, and the error is ?	04:01
izmanromli	jadakren: error fetching package from dotdeb ...	04:02
jadakren	izmanromli, have you tried compiling it ?	04:04
jadakren	izmanromli, i found this which might help you : http://thirdpartycode.com/2009/08/building-php-5-3-packages-on-ubuntu-9-04-jaunty-for-apache-2/	04:04
izmanromli	jadakren: not yet, i'll try it now ... thx	04:04
jadakren	izmanromli, cant promise anything 1) i skipped jaunty 2) i dont need php5.3	04:05
chelz	jadakren: why'd you skip jaunty?	04:05
izmanromli	jadakren: that's fine :D	04:05
jadakren	chelz, becuase i was fine on intrepid	04:06
chelz	jadakren: did you upgrade or do a new install? and when did you?	04:06
jadakren	sometime last year i did a fresh install over intrepid (my home & /var/www is on another partition)	04:07
chelz	jadakren: is your /var/www a mountpoint or symlink?	04:07
jadakren	izmanromli, 5.3 is fairly new ? i cant even find ppa for it	04:08
jadakren	chelz, i think its a symlink (on my netbook its just on the same partition as / )	04:08
izmanromli	jadakren: not really ... it has been launched awhile ago	04:09
jadakren	izmanromli, maybe it will part of lucid then	04:09
bigtom21485	what are the most popular file sharing programs for ubuntu?	04:09
izmanromli	jadakren: i guess so, but i never read anything about lucid	04:10
chelz	bigtom21485: transmission, frostwire, nicotine, azureus, lanshark	04:10
denis-k	bigtom21485, LimeWire is available for linux/ubuntu	04:10
denis-k	o...frostwire is on linux too?	04:10
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mcurran	limewire and deluge are my two favorites	04:11
Neezer	I'm having problems using kompozer to publish my webpage to my web server...anyone have any experience with this?	04:11
mcurran	transmission sucks, but a lot of people use it	04:11
jadakren	mcurran, why is that ?	04:11
izmanromli	mcurran: i use ktorrent	04:11
mcurran	name the file index.html and put it in /var/www/	04:12
BoondoKlife	mcurran: I LOVE transmission	04:13
jadakren	mcurran, if you're talking to Neezer then you'll need to 1) stop assuming they are talking about their own machine being the webserver 2) prefix your messages with their name 3) provide more info	04:13
Neezer	mcurran, I know I can do that, but I have kompozer on my laptop, and I want to try to ftp it...I'm not sure how to set it up...it is a pain to ssh it over to my server. then use the sudo command once I'm there to put it into /var/www	04:13
jadakren	Neezer, likewise you'll need to be more specific.	04:13
jadakren	Neezer, have you tried putting your user in the www-data group ?	04:14
Neezer	jadakren, thanks...I am using kompozer on my laptop...my server is at home, and I'm away from home for work....it sounds like I should be able to do it with the publish option in kompozer, but i keep getting errors.	04:14
dsnyders	Hi all! Is there an alternative to Audacity?	04:14
Neezer	jadakren, no. is that on my server or on my laptop?	04:14
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jadakren	Neezer, 1) i would use sshfs to mount the remote folder locally so that protocll issues are removed from the equation.	04:15
jadakren	Neezer, sorry i was referring to your user on the server	04:15
axisys_	how do I make sure my ubuntu laptop does not go to sleep when connected to AC, how do I do it by sshing to it?	04:15
MrPiracy_	how can i install old grub from a karmic live cd ?	04:15
Neezer	jadakren, protocll?	04:15
jadakren	Neezer, "protocol" ssh, smb, ftp etc etc deal with permissions in different ways...kompozer might be getting hung up on this	04:16
Neezer	I can mount my server system on my laptop, and I tried to do that and then just drag and drop, but it gave me permission issues cause it is in /var. Can I just chmod the folder to let me use it too?	04:16
Neezer	jadakren, *without using sudo	04:16
axisys_	i guess i configure /etc/default/acpi-support ?	04:17
jadakren	Neezer, well becuase my home web server is not a production server i can take risks with permissions. so i put myself in the www-data group and chown the whole /var/www to my username	04:17
wols_	MrPiracy_: is grub1 already on your disk? if so, grub-install restores it just as usual. if not, you need to get the .deb for grub and dpkg -i it	04:18
jadakren	axisys_, no. is it having a gnome desktop ?	04:18
Neezer	is that sudo chown nathan:nathan /var/www?	04:18
wols_	jakeriver: why chown /var/www _and_ add yourself to the group?	04:18
jadakren	Neezer, yes but i dont overwrite the group. so i use : sudo chown jadakren: /var/www/ -R	04:18
Neezer	jadakren, sorry about not using your name....is that sudo chown nathan:nathan /var/www?	04:18
Neezer	oops	04:18
jadakren	Neezer, you still want the group to remain as www-data	04:19
blendmaster1024	can anyone ping 97.117.115.221? and if you can what about can you get to the "accept key" part on 'ssh 97.117.115.221 -p 443'	04:19
MrPiracy_	wols_: :) haven't though of the .deb ... thx	04:19
axisys_	jadakren: i dont have access to gnome desktop from I am sitting.. i need to go close to it for that.. lol .. i think i just modify /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf	04:19
fiyawerx	Is there a way to install the new catalyst in Lucid for amd64?	04:19
wols_	!Zilnof Wright, John C - Golden Age 03 - The Golden Transcendence - HTM.rar	04:19
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	04:19
Neezer	jadakren, I'm pretty new to this...but i think i get it....the group for /var/www is www-data? and doing nathan:nathan would make it in the nathan group, but just nathan: keeps it in the www-data group?	04:20
axisys_	jadakren: ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE_ON_AC=0 hmm.. this is already set like i wanted	04:20
jadakren	axisys_, no my question was does the laptop have a gnome desktop? if so you can just use X forwarding in an ssh session to run the gui config app	04:20
axisys_	jadakren: i guess ipw2200 died caused the screen blank and not want to wake up	04:21
jadakren	Neezer, correct.	04:21
axisys_	jadakren: yes it has gnome	04:21
jadakren	axisys_, ssh user@laptop -Y	04:21
axisys_	jadakren: in	04:21
jadakren	axisys_, then run gnome-power-settings	04:21
casemods	can anyone tell me how to install thunderbird?	04:22
axisys_	jadakren: sudo ?	04:22
jadakren	axisys_, i mean : gnome-power-preferences	04:22
axisys_	jadakren: cool! thanks	04:22
jadakren	axisys_, if the options you want are not there... try looking in gconf-editor	04:22
jadakren	axisys_, i actually suspect you will need to tango with dbus to prevent the screen turning off when power cable is unplugged	04:23
ubuntu_user_01	so I have a server with a raid 6 array and the OS on a seperate HDD...that HDD is now failing, so if i pull it out...throw in a new HDD and reinstall ubuntu on it will i be able to recover my raid 6 array?	04:23
fiyawerx	or is it only available for non 64 bit so far.. or is it even available for that? I was able to find it here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/2:8.721-0ubuntu1/+build/1568894	04:23
fiyawerx	but not sure how to get that to work	04:23
axisys_	jadakren: yep, it looks good	04:24
axisys_	jadakren: not sure why the laptop did not respond.. i had to ssh to it and reboot	04:24
axisys_	jadakren: guessing the ipw2200 firmware keep dying.. but i still ssh to it .. so that could not be it	04:24
jadakren	axisys_, is that a wifi card ?	04:25
casemods	when I try to install a flash plugin, it says it cannont find package	04:25
jadakren	casemods, how are you trying to install it ?	04:25
axisys_	jadakren: builtin intel chip on hp nc6220 laptop	04:25
jadakren	axisys_, ok not sure what that is but what does the ipw2200 do ?	04:25
casemods	jadakren: in firefox, when trying to install adblock plus, it asks for a flash plugin	04:25
jadakren	casemods, do you have ubufox installed ?	04:26
axisys_	jadakren: intel wifi driver	04:26
Neezer	thanks jadakren, working a little better now...i'd still like to get the publish feature of kompozer working.	04:26
ubuntu_user_01	can anyone help	04:26
casemods	no, I don't know that is jadakren	04:26
ubuntu_user_01	??	04:26
jadakren	!help \| ubuntu_user_01	04:26
ubottu	ubuntu_user_01: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	04:26
jadakren	casemods, are you using ubuntu 9.10 ?	04:27
casemods	I believe so.	04:27
axisys_	ubuntu_user_01: i like find the answer too	04:27
casemods	jadakren:	04:27
Headtalk\|	if i have 4 cores with HT do i put -lavdopts threads=4 or -lavdopts threads=8	04:27
axisys_	jadakren: he already asked a question	04:27
axisys_	jadakren: /lastlog ubuntu_user_01 will show	04:27
axisys_	ubuntu_user_01: if that were zfs raid6 u wound have no issue.. not sure how ext3 or ext4 works	04:28
ubuntu_user_01	its JFS raid 6	04:29
Headtalk\|	what is better ext or resierfs	04:29
ubuntu_user_01	resierfs is dead	04:29
ubuntu_user_01	ext4 is the future	04:29
axisys_	ubuntu_user_01: it is already here.. ext4 that is	04:29
Headtalk\|	why did people use resierfs then	04:29
axisys_	ubuntu_user_01: in karmic	04:29
jadakren	casemods, so you didnt actually specifically try to install flash plugin itself ?	04:29
jadakren	!flash \| casemods	04:30
ubottu	casemods: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	04:30
ubuntu_user_01	i know its here and its the fs for the future is what i meant lol	04:30
jadakren	ubuntu_user_01, actually waiting for the revisioned file system to be honest.	04:30
psycho_oreos	ext4 isn't stable yet	04:30
casemods	jadakren: when I went to install adblock plus, it told me I needed a flash plugin to view the site properly and gave me a list of 3 choices. each one tried and failed and told me it was unable to find the file associated with it	04:30
psycho_oreos	and there's plenty of competitors out there	04:31
Headtalk\|	is it possible to convert resierfs to extx without losing data?	04:31
jadakren	casemods, have a read of this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash	04:31
axisys_	so anyone knows if an external jfs raid6 will survive with new linux OS ?	04:31
MrPiracy_	wols_: can i install grub from apt-get in terminal? i think it would be easier	04:31
axisys_	that was a question from ubuntu_user_01	04:31
darolu	psycho_oreos, ext4 was declared stable on 21 October 2008	04:32
axisys_	and i like to know the answer too	04:32
psycho_oreos	darolu, and yet it isn't as of ubuntu 9.10 with bugs about large files	04:32
Headtalk\|	why did some people used reiserfs intead of ext	04:32
jadakren	casemods, i think im using adobe-flashplugin at the moment (sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin )	04:32
psycho_oreos	Headtalk\|, the way reiserfs managed files were different to ext	04:33
darolu	psycho_oreos, I didn't know that, how large does a file need to be to trigger the bug?	04:33
ubuntu_user_01	use xfs or jfs for large files and servers and ext3 or ext4 for your OS	04:33
Headtalk\|	psycho and was being different , better?	04:33
jadakren	casemods, you might like to try installing flashplugin-nonfree	04:33
psycho_oreos	darolu, it was noted in the release notes.. even when I went about installing arch I noticed they documented ext4 is still new	04:34
sfstikkun	I am attempting to get to irc.starchat which i've used successfully for years. tonight I'm computer is delivering a note that says " connected" but then it says its "lost connection., Anyone know what might be causing this failure?	04:34
casemods	jadakren: it says "could not find package "flash plugin installer"	04:34
jadakren	casemods, read what i posted above please.	04:34
psycho_oreos	Headtalk\|, it ultimately depends on what you need at the end of the day, reiserfs iirc handles small files better, so if your linux setup was purely as mail daemon for example, reiserfs would boost the performance	04:34
jadakren	sfstikkun, someone on your lan is hogging the latency with torrents ?	04:35
casemods	what is "sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin"	04:35
casemods	jadakren:	04:35
Headtalk\|	psycho_oreos if that is true, why is <ubuntu_user_01> saying resierfs is dead	04:35
ubuntu_user_01	jadakren...what version of ubuntu u using?	04:35
ubuntu_user_01	because resier went to jail	04:35
psycho_oreos	Headtalk\|, its dead because the author is jailed, its offtopic and there's reiser4 which may supercede reiserfs	04:36
jadakren	casemods, 1) open a terminal : press alt + f2 2) type : gnome-terminal 3) in the new window type : sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree	04:36
Headtalk\|	author went to jail? wtf	04:36
Headtalk\|	why did author went to jail	04:36
ubuntu_user_01	yea...offtopic reiser is dead for now	04:36
psycho_oreos	Headtalk\|, google for Hans Reiser.. I'm not going to talk about it here	04:36
casemods	jadakren: where is terminal?	04:36
jadakren	!ot	04:36
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	04:36
jadakren	casemods, did you press alt and f2 together ?>	04:37
ubuntu_user_01	jadakren go to applications accessories terminal	04:37
casemods	ok got it now	04:37
Headtalk\|	even if author went to jail, why would reserfs die?	04:37
ubuntu_user_01	because he was the lead architech and the community fell away after he went to jail	04:37
ub3rg33k	test	04:37
jadakren	Headtalk\|, no idea but it has nothing to do with ubuntu support.	04:37
casemods	jadakren: "E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree"	04:38
Headtalk\|	psycho_oreos is that mean ext is better than resierfs for bigger files?	04:38
jadakren	casemods, what does this reveal : apt-cache search \| grep flash	04:38
psycho_oreos	Headtalk\|, google is your friend, I'm not going to talk about it here when its all offtopic	04:39
jadakren	casemods, sorry i mean apt-cache search flash \| grep plugin	04:39
Headtalk\|	psycho why is it offtopic, we are talking about linux filesystem	04:39
psycho_oreos	because its not ubuntu support	04:39
psycho_oreos	period	04:39
Headtalk\|	ok	04:39
casemods	nothing happens jad	04:39
casemods	jadakren:	04:40
sfstikkun	Jadakrelan, since I don't havea lan, I'm not sure how anyone can be hogging "the latecy with torrents) Whats the next possible solution.	04:40
jadakren	sfstikkun, check your dns ? make sure that your gateway mac address is really the maccaddress of your gateway and not someone doign a mitm attack	04:41
axisys_	ubuntu_user_01: you probably want to ask to the mailing list as well.. i am curious if your raid will survive..	04:41
sfstikkun	Thanks	04:41
jadakren	sfstikkun, maybe reboot the router ... no idea. its a problem that requires lots of debug info i suppose before any realy suggestions can be given	04:42
darolu	psycho_oreos, all I found in Ubuntu 9.10 release notes about ext4 is that you have to manually install grub; I also found ext4 limit is 2^32 blocks but that's about it; I ask because I have a Ubuntu server and its HD's FS are ext4, it handles files of ~5GiB sometimes, should I worry about the bug you mentioned?	04:42
sobczyk	how to properly disable hdd power management, or set it to a higher value (ie. 200 instead of 128)?	04:42
jadakren	casemods, open software sources : system > admin > software sources	04:42
jadakren	casemods, viewing the "ubuntu software" tab, are the first four tickboxes ticked ?	04:43
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ubuntu_user_01	darolu, i would def consider moving to a more mature FS such as XFS or JFS	04:44
casemods	jadakren: all 4 are ticked, and source code is not	04:45
linshine	anyone know how to fix gdm (login) screen fonts. mine are all squares. [][][][]	04:45
linshine	using lucid 10.04 beta1	04:45
jadakren	casemods, ok open synaptic package manager : system > admin > synaptics package manager	04:46
bastid_raZor	linshine: go to #ubuntu+1 for lucid/10.04 support	04:46
jadakren	!lucid \| linshine	04:46
ubottu	linshine: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule	04:46
darolu	ubuntu_user_01, I used to have XFS but (at the time) I read ext4 had better performance so I tried it, do you know of any documentation regarding the bug psycho_oreos mentioned?	04:46
ranjan	How to clear squid cache???	04:46
ubuntu_user_01	axisys_: I check over in ubuntu-server and i think i have a solution...since my OS hdd isn't completely dead i am going to make a raid 1 with a new hdd then swap out the failing hdd	04:46
sfstikkun	I'll be back to get more questions answered later...must sleep, my hnead ison the keyboard. night...thanks	04:47
casemods	ok got it jadakren	04:47
jadakren	casemods, now search for flash	04:47
ranjan	please help....anyone who can help me in clearing the squid chache??	04:48
casemods	ok got it, thanks jadakren	04:48
jadakren	casemods, probem solved? flash working ?	04:49
ubuntu_user_01	darolu, the known bug has actually been fixed and backported to kernel 2.6.28 if you are using ubuntu	04:49
casemods	well its installing, ill check now	04:49
jadakren	casemods, make sure to restart the browser	04:49
ubuntu_user_01	however, it is still a new FS and depending on what you are using those disks for you prolly dont need the added performance that ext4 provides	04:49
darolu	ubuntu_user_01, OK, thank you.	04:50
ubuntu_user_01	you especially dont need the performance if it is a production machine...stability before speed always	04:50
sobczyk	in my ubuntu bluetooth stopped working, dmesg shows something about bluetooth but bluetooth settings shows o devices, how can I fix it?	04:51
MrPiracy_	i am stuck ... trying to install old grub from terminal, used dpkg -i but directory /boot/grub doesn't exist. what am i doing wrong?	04:54
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sobczyk	MrPiracy_, probably the package does not create /boot/grub	04:55
MrPiracy_	sobczyk: but it should, no?	04:55
Trek	MrPiracy_ you trying to install grub legacy?	04:55
sobczyk	it is arbitrary where you install grub	04:55
MrPiracy_	yes, the old grub	04:55
MrPiracy_	i uninstalled grub2	04:56
Trek	MrPiracy_ use supergrubdisk to install Grub Legacy	04:56
Trek	i think	04:56
Trek	it still works	04:56
sobczyk	just make the dir and follow one of the grub-install howtos	04:56
Trek	stupid enterbutton	04:56
FloodBot2	Trek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	04:56
psycho_oreos	darolu, it was once noted in the 9.10 release notes: look at the info here for starters https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/404804	04:56
MrPiracy_	ok, it installed with no errors	04:56
MrPiracy_	but now i cant root to my partition from grub prompt	04:57
sobczyk	did you do grub-install?	04:58
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sircrazy	casemods, you should ask in here how to download thunderbird	05:00
casemods	i think i got it	05:00
sircrazy	lol	05:01
syk	when u do "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:whatever/ppa" in terminal, how do i remove it/or edit it?	05:02
murlidhar	~	05:03
Flannel	syk: /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*	05:03
Flannel	syk: (the latter means the files in that folder)	05:03
Flannel	syk: OR you should be able to do it via software properties	05:03
MrPiracy_	sobczyk: how do i run grub-intall? i dont even know where grub went to :(	05:04
BaseBallBoy	Hey guys	05:04
murlidhar	MrPiracy_: there is an excellent how to in the community documentation about grub installation.	05:04
murlidhar	!grub2	05:04
ubottu	GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2	05:04
sobczyk	MrPiracy_, the easiest is run some repair cd with the legacy grub, and run grub-install from there	05:05
BaseBallBoy	Quick question, can I get an estimated time/date that Ubuntu 10.04 will be ready?	05:05
trinikrono	april!	05:05
sobczyk	I agree the ubuntu grub howto is excellent	05:05
BaseBallBoy	trinikrono, your kidding?	05:05
Trek	!lucid \| BaseBallBoy	05:05
ubottu	BaseBallBoy: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule	05:05
chelz	BaseBallBoy: that's all on the release schedule. but it'll be around april 30th	05:05
chelz	that	05:05
Flannel	BaseBallBoy: April 29 (last Thursday in April)	05:05
sobczyk	MrPiracy_, the installation steps are almost the same if not identical to grub2	05:06
BaseBallBoy	thanks guys	05:06
Trek	BaseBallBoy, its in beta right now though	05:06
* BaseBallBoy can't wait		05:06
murlidhar	MrPiracy_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2	05:06
chelz	BaseBallBoy: the servers get really hard right around when big updates happen, so if you can it's good to wait a few weeks	05:06
chelz	also don't forget to always install updates after installing	05:06
BaseBallBoy	Yeah yeah, i know :P	05:06
Trek	BaseBallBoy, discuss how much you can't wait in either off-topic or #ubuntu+1 please	05:07
murlidhar	MrPiracy_: if u want to reinstall grub ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202	05:07
Losha	Trek: thank you. I'm over 10.04 already...	05:07
mobidroid	Hi I have a ubuntu server running on a VPS, now the file system is corrupted and I'm really not used to retreive files from a corrupted fs... I runned fschk and it deleted most of the important files like /etc/init.d and /var/www/ (which is what i'm trying to retreive) is there a guide on how to ressurect files from a ubuntu server (without having access to the physical drive)	05:07
mobidroid	On a side note i would like to know how often corrupted filesystem is occuring?	05:07
murlidhar	sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sdX	05:08
murlidhar	is the simple command : )	05:08
sircrazy	mobidroid, anywhere from once every 3 days to never	05:08
murlidhar	but the linux partition must be mounted first.	05:08
globus_	hello all, I got some thing need to ask guru here. It's about file system. When i use "mc" in console and traverse file system and move to some directory( different with current directory before I use mc). Then click F10 to exit mc but the directory now is not the directory which mc pointing to, that's the directory before I use mc. Anybody know how to keep current directory is the place when I exit "mc" ? Thanks !	05:08
murlidhar	!support globus_	05:08
murlidhar	errr	05:09
MrPiracy_	murlidhar: i just installed karmic, it comes with grub2 so i uninstalled it and am now trying to install grub legacy to it	05:09
Trek	lol murlidhar	05:09
murlidhar	!support > globus_	05:09
ubottu	globus_, please see my private message	05:09
murlidhar	:)	05:09
mobidroid	sircrazy: I knew i should backup a bit, but damn	05:09
sircrazy	mobidroid, chances are you wont have corruption	05:09
HexRex	Is there anything as good as notepad++ for linux?	05:09
sircrazy	but i backup once a week	05:09
MrPiracy_	murlidhar: is it on apt-get	05:09
MrPiracy_	?	05:09
murlidhar	MrPiracy_: oh ... i thought you were trying to reinstall the grub	05:09
murlidhar	MrPiracy_: yes it is.	05:09
HexRex	emacs sucks	05:09
MrPiracy_	murlidhar: for karmic?	05:10
barcode	how do i get my ubuntu menu back :(	05:10
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murlidhar	!info grub \| MrPiracy_	05:10
mobidroid	sircrazy: well now i have and I dont find much stuff on the net about what to do now :( I asked the image of the vps to the hosting cie maybe they will kindly reject my request :(	05:10
ubottu	MrPiracy_: grub (source: grub): GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-29ubuntu59 (karmic), package size 396 kB, installed size 924 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 lpia all)	05:10
murlidhar	!info grub2 \| MrPiracy_	05:10
ubottu	MrPiracy_: grub2 (source: grub2): GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (dummy package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4.1 (karmic), package size 2 kB, installed size 264 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386 kopensolaris-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 lpia powerpc sparc)	05:10
mobidroid	sircrazy: is fschk the only thing in order to fix files?!	05:10
Losha	mobidroid: all the really serious file recovery programs I'm aware of assume you have access to the raw block device for the drive. I dunno how much you can achieve on a VPS filesystem. Are there no backups?	05:11
sircrazy	mobidroid, basically	05:11
sircrazy	there are some other apps that claim able to repair filesystems	05:11
sircrazy	but idk much about them	05:11
murlidhar	hmm	05:11
murlidhar	!info grub-legacy	05:11
ubottu	Package grub-legacy does not exist in karmic	05:11
murlidhar	hmm	05:11
sircrazy	!info grub	05:11
ubottu	grub (source: grub): GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-29ubuntu59 (karmic), package size 396 kB, installed size 924 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 lpia all)	05:11
MrPiracy_	murlidhar: well, i think i all need is to figure out how to install this .deb from the terminal now	05:11
mobidroid	Losha: nope :(	05:11
murlidhar	MrPiracy_: sudo dpkg -i .......... .deb ?	05:12
MrPiracy_	murlidhar: i mean, it installed cos i can get into it's prompt if i type "grub", but i have no idea where it went to	05:12
mobidroid	Losha: well no backup that I made, maybe they backup image on there side it would be great	05:12
ae86-drifter	why has so many people switch to debian from ubuntu?	05:12
murlidhar	MrPiracy_: well you should consider going to #ubuntu .. for help .	05:12
murlidhar	MrPiracy_: i am not so sure how it can be done.	05:13
MrPiracy_	murlidhar: that is where i am ;)	05:13
murlidhar	:)	05:13
murlidhar	good.	05:13
Losha	mobidroid: meanwhile, browse https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery and see if any of that applies...	05:13
ae86-drifter	murlidhar, is this not #ubuntu?	05:13
murlidhar	keep trying. you might find the answer else .	05:13
mobidroid	Losha: k thx	05:13
ae86-drifter	try !#ubuntu	05:13
Flannel	HexRex: Try SciTE	05:13
chelz	MrPiracy_: sudo apt-get install --reconfigure grub2- grub	05:13
harish	Hi everyone..i am upgrading from ubuntu 32bit to ubuntu 64bit	05:14
ae86-drifter	try sudo rm -rf /	05:14
Flannel	HexRex: (SCiTE is what notepad++ is based off of)	05:14
mobidroid	I'm thats a bad start: Shut down the affected machine as soon as possible, and restart it from a LiveCD or LiveUSB. Be certain that the "live" cd does not automatically mount any partition or swap space.	05:14
Flannel	!danger	05:14
chelz	harish: doesn't work like that	05:14
ubottu	DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!	05:14
MrPiracy_	chelz: i dont want grub2	05:14
chelz	MrPiracy_: if you copy exactly what i typed, it removes it	05:14
MrPiracy_	chelz: ohhh, ok	05:14
chelz	wait	05:14
chelz	MrPiracy_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub2- grub	05:15
chelz	rather	05:15
harish	iam trying to overwrite 32bit version with 64bit version	05:15
harish	i prepared a live usb stick for that but i am getting boot error	05:15
harish	need help	05:16
Losha	harish: how much RAM do you have?	05:16
deathtech	Hello all ! I have installed 9.10 on a Dell Mini (1010) , and im trying to get a MadCatz Xbox 360 controller to function. In every port i plug the device into, it blinks continuosly, and a lsusb seems to make it show up as a device named "Harmonix Music" . This is a gamepad, however, and im a bit confused.	05:16
harish	4gb	05:16
syk	harish, what kind of boot error?	05:16
harish	as soon as i restart the system, it says boot error	05:16
MrPiracy_	chelz: it said "reinstallation of grub is not possible, it cannot be downloaded"	05:16
harish	i press any key, it takes to to the existing ubuntu 32bit	05:16
chelz	MrPiracy_: what happend with your apt?	05:17
Losha	harish: it's barely worth upgrading to 64 bit then, for only 4G RAM. Any speedup you might see you'll pay for in reduced stability...	05:17
MrPiracy_	chelz: i dont know, i booted from live cd and i'm online, browser works	05:17
chelz	harish: upgrading doesn't work too well. doing a bit change is done by a new install	05:17
harish	my system is 64bit	05:17
harish	so, i want to use 64bit	05:18
chelz	harish: yeah do a fresh install	05:18
harish	i copied the 64bit iso and made live usb out of it	05:18
harish	but i am not able to replace it with the existing 32bit	05:18
chelz	harish: liveusb how?	05:18
harish	i used unetbootin	05:19
chelz	harish: do manual partitioning and format over your old 32bit, after you backup your data	05:19
deathtech	Anyone have any experience with using a 360 controller on 9.10 ?	05:19
harish	chelz, i have all the data backed up	05:19
MrPiracy_	chelz: i have downloaded the .deb for grub 0.97, how can i get it installed from it?	05:19
harish	i have no other operating system	05:19
chelz	MrPiracy_: system -> administration -> software sources -> Download from -> other -> click get best server	05:20
abhi_nav	I am planning to use my current hdd (on which this ubuntu 9.04 is installed) to use as backup disk and to have fresh install of ubuntu on new hdd. Which is the better way to proced? 1. Install 9.04 on new disk and then upgrade to 9.10 2. do fresh installation of 9.10 on new hdd 3. upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 to 10.04 4. upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 5. Should I use 9.04 itself till the end of its life? or upgrade it to 9.10 and/or 10.04?	05:21
chelz	harish: in an ubuntu livecd open up partition editor and go to Device -> Create Partition Table	05:21
abhi_nav	Thanx for reading this big question	05:21
Losha	MrPiracy_: http://brettshaffer.com/blog/linux/downgrade-grub-2/ If it goes wrong, you didn't hear it from me...	05:21
MrPiracy_	chelz: i am chroot to my hd karmic partition, would that be the problem apt-get is not working?	05:22
chelz	MrPiracy_: ah yeah that could be it, you need to copy your resolv.conf	05:22
harish	chelz i dont have a live cd...can i do it with usb live?	05:22
chelz	harish: yeah	05:22
deathtech	Caveman mode ACTIVATE ! :D "Why for it so hard to get 360 controller to work in 9.10"	05:22
trinikrono	abhi_nav: use 9.04 till 10 comes out	05:22
tots	I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 and have set up my machine to for LAMP. However I notice that the PHP package in the package manager is for v5.2.10 which was released last June, the newest stable version is 5.3.2. is it possible to get a package for the newer version, and if do where can I find one?	05:23
chelz	MrPiracy_: sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mounteddrivepoint/etc/	05:23
Guest18520	hi people, i have troubles in my ubuntu 9.10. When i install the ATI`s video driver with EnvyNG , my ubuntu only starts by text mode	05:23
abhi_nav	trinikrono: hmmm	05:23
bigtom21485	i have no way of syncing my ipod with my library on my computer.	05:24
chelz	bigtom21485: lucid with be a lot better at that with rhythmbox	05:24
harish	chelz, please provide all the steps..i will not be having power in another 5minutes....i can copy the steps and save them	05:24
abhi_nav	trinikrono: and then should I upgrade to 10.04 via 9.10?	05:25
Guest18520	someone can help me?	05:25
chelz	harish: go to gparted aka Partition Editor, in it go to the Device menu, then click Create Partition Table and click "create" (only do this if you're sure you've backed up all data on the drive)	05:25
ActionParsnip	yo yo yo	05:25
chelz	harish: then do the ubuntu install normally	05:25
MrPiracy_	chelz: i ctrl+d to go back to live cd root, copied resolv.conf, chroot back to hd partition and typed "sudo apt-get --reinstall grub" ... then i got "unable to resolve ubuntu host"	05:25
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: I am planning to use my current hdd (on which this ubuntu 9.04 is installed) to use as backup disk and to have fresh install of ubuntu on new hdd. Which is the better way to proced? 1. Install 9.04 on new disk and then upgrade to 9.10 2. do fresh installation of 9.10 on new hdd 3. upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 to 10.04 4. upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 5. Should I use 9.04 itself till the end of its life? or upgrade it to 9.10	05:26
abhi_nav	and/or 10.04? Thanx for reading this big question	05:26
bigtom21485	rhythmbox	05:26
bigtom21485	rkythmbox wont copy between the two	05:26
MrPiracy_	Losha: i tried that too, but apt-get is not working from live-cd	05:26
harish	thanks chelz, i will try it out and hopefully it works...if not, i will come back to you	05:26
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: trinikrono recommended to use 9.04 untill 10.04 comes out	05:27
Guest18520	someone can help me?	05:27
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: if you clean install use 9.10 unless you are ok with fixing bugs then use 10.04	05:27
abhi_nav	!someone \| Guest18520	05:27
ubottu	Guest18520: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	05:27
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: i wouldnt bother with 9.04 and 9.10 is stable	05:27
chelz	abhi_nav: 3	05:27
zus	does anyone use pidgin and the facebook app?	05:27
abhi_nav	chelz: 3? what is 3?	05:28
chelz	abhi_nav: number 3 in your options	05:28
zus	i either get disconnected constantly or get that stupid cptcha	05:28
AbortD	i use pidgin	05:28
abhi_nav	chelz: ohhh I see	05:28
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip yes clean install	05:28
Guest18520	hi people, i have troubles in my ubuntu 9.10. When i install the ATI`s video driver with EnvyNG , my ubuntu only starts by text mode	05:28
chelz	MrPiracy_: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=42e872ca38dd7eb8e35c0f2883dde445&p=7258942&postcount=1	05:29
AbortD	Guest18520, when its in text mode login and type startx and see what the error is it should list it	05:29
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: go for 9.10 then	05:30
Guest18520	ubottu , I had already asked before	05:30
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	05:30
SolarisBoy	is there a seperate shortcut in compiz like task switcher but one that show tasks in all workspaces?	05:30
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: ok. thank you.	05:30
bigtom21485	ubottu: lol u do pretty well my friend	05:30
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	05:30
ActionParsnip	SolarisBoy: ps -ef \| grep processname will show all processes on the system	05:30
abhi_nav	ubottu is not that much intelligent,	05:31
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	05:31
abhi_nav	yah see?	05:31
ActionParsnip	!coffee \| ubottu	05:31
abhi_nav	haa haa haa	05:31
abhi_nav	she dont know about coffeee!!!!	05:31
ActionParsnip	she used to know coffee	05:31
abhi_nav	now she only drink tea, I think	05:31
Trek	!tea \| ubottu	05:31
ubottu	Trek: tea is a very British beverage made from infusing leaves of various tea plants in hot water.	05:31
danzig	I think the bot is smarter than most in here :)	05:31
SolarisBoy	ActionParsnip: right im aware of this	05:31
harish	chelz, i get this error while trying to download gparted through synaptic package manager W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dmraid/libdmraid1.0.0.rc15_1.0.0.rc15-11ubuntu3_i386.deb	05:32
harish	Could not resolve 'in.archive.ubuntu.com'	05:32
abhi_nav	haa hah ahaa	05:32
Losha	oh, do stop rambling...	05:32
MrPiracy_	chelz: just did it ... same thing :(	05:32
ActionParsnip	SolarisBoy: if you want something that shows all the workspaces then i's ask in #compiz	05:32
Trek	harish: the site you tried to get it from wasnt resolved, means doesnt exist or its ofline	05:32
harish	trek, thanks	05:33
abhi_nav	Trek :D	05:34
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: :D	05:34
MrPiracy_	chelz: ok, now i removed grub by "apt-get remove grub"	05:34
MrPiracy_	chelz: but when i try to run "apt-get install grub" it says pakcage grub has no installatino candidate	05:35
abhi_nav	!grub	05:35
ubottu	grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.	05:35
Trek	abhi_nav, huh>?	05:36
abhi_nav	Trek: tea	05:36
Trek	!tea > abhi_nav	05:36
ubottu	abhi_nav, please see my private message	05:36
abhi_nav	Trek: yah	05:36
tots	I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 and have set up my machine to for LAMP. However I notice that the PHP package in the package manager is for v5.2.10 which was released last June, the newest stable version is 5.3.2. is it possible to get a package for the newer version, and if do where can I find one?	05:37
ActionParsnip	tots: find a deb or ppa	05:38
bullgard	~/.gvfs is empty. Who does fill it?	05:38
ActionParsnip	bullgard: it gets populated when you mount usb stuffs	05:38
carmony	on ubuntu server, how can I see what interfaces I have available to setup?	05:38
tots	ActionParsnip, where does one find these?	05:38
Trek	!server \| carmony	05:38
ubottu	carmony: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 8.04. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html - Use the #ubuntu-server channel for support	05:38
carmony	Trek: thanks	05:38
ActionParsnip	tots: online duder, do you need fuunctionality in 5.3.2 which sint in 5.2.10?	05:39
Trek	carmony: yup	05:39
ActionParsnip	s/sint/isn't	05:39
tots	ActionParsnip, I want to file a bug report but need to make sure I am at least on the latest stable release of 5.3 or 5.2	05:39
ActionParsnip	tots: cool, then if you use the ppa search you may find someone who has compiled it	05:40
ActionParsnip	tots: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas	05:40
tots	ActionParsnip, thanks. That's just what i was going to ask :)	05:40
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bullgard	ActionParsnip: I do not believe you: lsusb shows that there is connected a webcam. Still, ~/.gvfs is empty.	05:41
ActionParsnip	bullgard: gvfs is for block devices, webcams won't show in there	05:42
ActionParsnip	bullgard: use the 8 character hex ID for the cam in lsusb o find guides	05:42
bigtom21485	someone help me add banshee ppa	05:43
ActionParsnip	bigtom21485: sudo add-apt-repository ppa://link; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade	05:43
MrPiracy_	chelz: u there?	05:43
ActionParsnip	bigtom21485: the ppa://link will replaced by the address on the ppa site	05:43
ddrj	where is this directory? Extract it to the ~/.xbmc/plugins/programs directory.	05:44
ddrj	i checked / and /usr but i can't find anything with a .xbmc	05:44
jussi01	ddrj: ~/ is your home dir	05:45
ActionParsnip	bullgard: gvfs is for when you plug in USB hard drives and SD cards	05:45
ddrj	ahhh thanks jussi01 checking	05:45
jussi01	ddrj: an a .folder is hidden, so you need to turn on view hidden files	05:45
ActionParsnip	bullgard: webcams do not contain any storage so you will not see any entries ni there, yuo will also not see an entry if you attach a usb set of headphones	05:45
ddrj	ahhh no wonder	05:46
ActionParsnip	bullgard: the 8 character hex id identifies the chip the webcam uses which is what you need to drive so websearching for the IS will find you guides	05:46
bullgard	ActionParsnip: What do you mean by "IS"?	05:47
bigtom21485	ActionParsnip: how do i enable my laptop's built-in webcam for use in linux?	05:48
ActionParsnip	bigtom21485: run: lsusb in a terminal, you will see an 8 character hex id. use that in websearches. Check is isnt already detected by running cheese and seeing if you acn see yourself	05:48
ActionParsnip	bullgard: which sentance are you on about, i used is in 2	05:49
bigtom21485	ActionParsnip it didnt install Banshee	05:49
bigtom21485	*ActionParsnip: it didnt install Banshee	05:50
bullgard	ActionParsnip: "[06:46]<ActionParsnip>bullgard: the 8 character hex id identifies the chip the webcam uses which is what you need to drive so websearching for the IS will find you guides"	05:50
ActionParsnip	bigtom21485: then you have an equal or later version installed	05:50
lars_	hey im trying to play a movie through totem and its giving me an error it says"could not open location;you might not have permission to open file" how do i fix this?	05:51
ActionParsnip	bullgard: sorry, is what will find you guys (on hour 10 of a 12 hour shift)	05:51
ActionParsnip	lars_: is it on a network share?	05:51
bigtom21485	ActionParsnip: its not in any of my menus	05:51
ActionParsnip	bigtom21485: sudo apt-get install banshee then	05:51
lars_	ActionParsnip: i dont know...how do i set it up...steps?	05:52
nickstr1988	I have a really annoying sound issue here	05:52
bullgard	ActionParsnip: The time given is GMT +1.	05:52
nickstr1988	continuous popping sounds from a Conexant based HD sound card in Ubuntu 9.10	05:53
zus	can some one help me get the facebook plug in working on pidgin please if youse dont mind?	05:53
dsnyders	Hi all! Can somebody recommend an audacity replacement? It's stalling on me ever since 8.10>9.04 upgrade.	05:54
ActionParsnip	lars_: no, its a question. Is the file on yuor PC or on a network share on another pc?	05:54
ActionParsnip	bullgard: GMT here dude, Leesd West Yorkshire, UK	05:54
ActionParsnip	Leeds sorry	05:54
oildrum	if I changed the timezone of a very important server, what is the best way to figure out what all services need to be restarted?	05:54
dsnyders	oildrum, I take it the server cannot be rebooted?	05:55
Flannel	oildrum: Your timezone is a user thing not a systemwide thing	05:56
nickstr1988	this is the most annoying sound issue ever, it only happened after installing 9.10	05:56
lars_	ActionParship: um no the dvd file is on my computer so its not on network share...whenever i try to mount the file onto the movie player that error comes up	05:57
abhi_nav	hi m back	05:58
ActionParsnip	lars_: is it a video dvd or a data dvd with random content on it?	05:58
harish	i am trying to install ubuntu 64bit..i already have 32bit operating..i would like to copy all the propreitory drivers for use in 64bit	05:59
harish	i get error no permission error while copying	06:00
harish	any help	06:00
paco_the_taco	harish	06:00
ActionParsnip	harish: that wont work, the drivers are 32bit. you will need to download the 64bit drivers	06:00
paco_the_taco	i think your gonna have to re-install anything	06:00
harish	ActionParsnip, thanks	06:00
annihilus	anyone have any suggestions for creating limited user accounts on a server? Dont want the users trying to fork bomb or something.	06:01
abhi_nav	how to know if my system if 32 bit? wll 64 bit os install on my 32 bit computer? this 32 bit or 64 bit this is processor or what?	06:01
ActionParsnip	annihilus: keep their group memberships minimal	06:01
lars_	ActionParship: its a video dvd its not pirated or anything got it from the store	06:01
Trek	abhi_nav, do you have a 64bit processor?	06:01
abhi_nav	Trek: how to know that?	06:01
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: uname -a \| grep i686 if you get an output its 32bit, if not then its 64bit	06:02
darolu	abhi_nav, a 64-bit OS won't work on a 32-bit system; what kind of processor do you have?	06:02
annihilus	ActionParsnip, yeah i plan to keep their group as users and lock down their /home	06:02
Trek	if you dont know, assume you have a 32-bit operating system, it works on everything (almost)	06:02
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: that is the architecture of the OS	06:02
abhi_nav	darolu: & ActionParsnip: Linux abhi-laptop 2.6.28-18-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 04:40:52 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux	06:02
ActionParsnip	annihilus: i believe theres a way to quota cpu usage per user but not sure	06:02
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abhi_nav	darolu: & ActionParsnip: thats the output of uname -a \| grep i686	06:03
abhi_nav	Trek: Linux abhi-laptop 2.6.28-18-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 04:40:52 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux	06:03
darolu	abhi_nav, run this in a terminal: lshw \| grep width	06:03
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: if you run: cat /proc/cpuinfo \| head -n 20 you can websearch for your CPU model to see if its 64bit	06:03
Trek	abhi_nav, you have 32bit	06:03
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: ok your ubuntu install is 32bit, but you can run a 32bit OS on a 64bit CPU (mostly)	06:04
zus	how can i reinstall the grub? i reisnstalled my 9.10 gnome, and now i have no grub....	06:04
ActionParsnip	!grub2 \| zus	06:04
ubottu	zus: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2	06:04
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: darolu: Trek: this is output of lshw \| grep width : http://paste.ubuntu.com/399129/	06:04
zus	ActionParsnip, thanks	06:04
londei_a	COUCOU LES GENS , ÇA VA BIEN LES GENS ALORS ?? G UN PROBLEM AVEC MON IMPRIMANTE	06:05
edinho	Hi all	06:05
darolu	uname -a prints the OS info, a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit machine will still print i686	06:05
lars_	ActionParship: no its a DVD video	06:05
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: darolu: Trek: this is output of cat /proc/cupinfo \| head -n 20 http://paste.ubuntu.com/399130/	06:06
zus	further more i seem to not be able to decrypt my encrypted email...i had saved my pgp key, and pasted it once the new install was done.	06:06
Losha	!fr \| londei_a	06:06
ubottu	londei_a: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois	06:06
darolu	abhi_nav, seems like you have 64-bit system	06:06
budah	iv seen someone running conky in terminal ? am i mistaken or	06:06
darolu	abhi_nav, cupinfo says double core, you def. have 64-bit	06:06
abhi_nav	darolu: then should I install 9.10 64 bit?	06:06
darolu	abhi_nav, yes	06:07
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: darolu: Trek: is it that 64 systems have less no. of apps or less no. of driver support etc?	06:07
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: T5750 is 64bit	06:07
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: hmm	06:07
edinho	http://www.mozilla-enigmail.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=674	06:08
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: 64bit is very supported, some companys dont make 64bit but a large majority do (some games only come in 32bit flavour from what ive seen)	06:08
darolu	abhi_nav, yes there are more apps for 32-bit systems, but 32-bit apps can run on 64-bits systems	06:08
edinho	http://www.mozilla-enigmail.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=674	06:08
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: darolu: ohh ok. so e.g. If i only have a aps or game of 32 bit then i can easily run it on my 64 bit 9.10?	06:09
darolu	abhi_nav, as ActionParsnip said, most apps, libraries and drivers support 64-bit, if you don't run anything out of the common apps you should not have any problem at all.	06:09
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: should be fnie yes, you will most likely find that all apps are 64bit available (unless you get real unlucky)	06:09
abhi_nav	darolu: ok	06:09
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: ohhhh hmmm :D	06:10
abhi_nav	darolu: :D	06:10
Losha	budah: I don't think conky runs in a terminal. Most of the info it provides can be displayed via a terminal though...	06:10
ActionParsnip	theres an awesmoe mech warrior game which is 32bit only ut i managed to get it going using ia32-libs ;)	06:10
darolu	abhi_nav, yes it is relatively easy, the most complex procedure I have encounter is to install 32-bit libraries and symbolic-link to them	06:10
abhi_nav	darolu: hmm	06:10
darolu	abhi_nav, it was simple, I simply installed the 32-bit libraries and told the program where to look for them; it was epsxe (play station emulator) if you are wondering :)	06:11
abhi_nav	darolu: hmm :D thank you!	06:11
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: darolu: Trek: Thank you!	06:12
darolu	np	06:12
zus	alright i got a command not found when i type in the sudo apt-get install grub2.	06:12
edinho	Someone come to the international forum of free software 11.0?	06:13
abhi_nav	!ext4	06:13
harish	i have downloaded gparted and placed on my desktop..how do i install it	06:13
abhi_nav	she dont know ext4 :-(	06:13
harish	i am not able to install through synaptic package manager	06:13
AbortD	harish what file type is it	06:14
harish	.zip	06:14
AbortD	unzip it first	06:14
harish	i have extracted all the files and placed it on my desktop	06:15
AbortD	what are the files	06:15
ActionParsnip	harish: you dont have to download gparted, its on the repo	06:15
ActionParsnip	harish: sudo apt-get install gparted	06:15
ActionParsnip	!info gparted	06:15
ubottu	gparted (source: gparted): GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 440 kB, installed size 3704 kB	06:15
zus	i tried to install a fresh 9.10. somehow the hdd was not reading the disc properly and the os wasnt loading. and i was getting a grub loading unknown file system grub rescue>_ so i un hooded all my drives and installed gnome 9.10 on the one... now im abled to mount my drives but i can not choose 1 linux gnome 9.10 (another -)2linux 9.10 and 3 windows.... i was abled to last night b4 reinstall.	06:15
ActionParsnip	harish: if you have an install CD you can add it as a repo and install that way	06:16
ActionParsnip	harish: or even boot to the liveCD and use gparted there	06:16
harish	ActionParsnip, many thanks, it got installed through terminal	06:17
edinho	install grub 2 instead of legacy	06:17
edinho	at the master disk	06:17
ActionParsnip	harish: in ubuntu its rare to actually download apps, most stuff is installed vi the official repos or by adding extra repos	06:18
ActionParsnip	harish: same with java and flash etc	06:19
harish	ActionParsnip, i am actually trying to install ubtuntu 64bit, i am currently using 32bit	06:20
harish	my system has 64bit processor	06:20
harish	i am not able to do the installation through live usb stick	06:20
harish	chelz suggested to do it through gparted	06:21
harish	how do i do that	06:21
ActionParsnip	harish: then boot to the install cd, wipe out the 32bit install (after backing up your stuff) and install a clean 64bit OS	06:21
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harish	i have it on live usb, i changed the boot settings in bios to boot from live usb	06:21
harish	but i am getting "boot error"	06:22
harish	any key i press, it takes me to the existing 32bit	06:22
abhi_nav	where is the download location for 9.10 64 bit ? becuase on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt there is amd64 or intel i386. but my processor is intel core 2 duo T5750 2.0GH	06:22
ActionParsnip	harish: did you MD5 test the ISO you used to make the USB bootable with?	06:22
harish	i have intel core 2 quadro	06:22
ActionParsnip	!getubuntu	06:23
abhi_nav	?	06:23
ActionParsnip	!download	06:23
ubottu	Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Karmic, and help keeping the servers' load low!	06:23
abhi_nav	harish: what is quadro?	06:23
abhi_nav	!torrents	06:23
ubottu	Karmic can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).	06:23
abhi_nav	but its 32 bit	06:24
abhi_nav	i want 64 bit	06:24
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ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/	06:24
Damascene	hello, is swfdec working in ubuntu?	06:25
tehbaut	is there a way to make an existing install back into a livecd?	06:25
abhi_nav	so does amd64 includes intel core 2 duo t5750?	06:25
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip ^^	06:25
psycho_oreos	you'd probably should be looking at x86_64 builds for 64bit	06:26
Rave1	tehbaut, yes remastersys	06:27
abhi_nav	psycho_oreos: lots of confusion with 64 bit. no clear path for 64 bit torrent download :-(	06:27
tehbaut	thanks Rave1	06:27
psycho_oreos	abhi_nav, though its not a real necessity imo to have 64bit when i386 should work globally	06:27
corigo	Loaded 4.4.1 on 9.10 and at login my entire plasma workspace craShes. Nothing but a black desktop	06:28
Rave1	tehbaut, YW	06:28
harish	ActionParsnip, i guess, the amd64 bit will work for intel also....it says "core" in the brackets	06:28
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: the 64bit torrent is on the page i gave you too	06:28
abhi_nav	psycho_oreos: I thought that 64 bit wll be much faster. thats why I am looking for 64 bit..........	06:28
alexbobp	I used adept to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10. Now my computer doesn't boot... it seems the upgrade broke full disk encryption	06:28
ActionParsnip	harish: yes, amd64 wil will on intel64 too	06:28
alexbobp	does anybody know how to fix this?	06:28
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: yah I found!!!	06:28
corigo	Abhi amd and intel distros synonymos	06:28
harish	but i am not able to install it....	06:29
harish	i burned on my usb	06:29
harish	it is not working through usb stick	06:29
psycho_oreos	via unetbootin?	06:29
darolu	The term is most likely to change from AMD64 to X_64	06:29
abhi_nav	psycho_oreos: yah	06:29
abhi_nav	corigo: hmm	06:29
ActionParsnip	harish: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/	06:29
abhi_nav	darolu: yah exactly!	06:30
budah	iv seen someone running conky in terminal can this be done or?	06:30
harish	ActionParsnip, i dont have windows in my system	06:30
airtonix	corigo, have you discussed this in #kubuntu yet ?	06:30
psycho_oreos	abhi_nav, well if amd64 doesn't work on your intel 64bit then get x86_64, simple as that	06:30
harish	i just have ubuntu 32bit which i want to replace with 64bit	06:30
harish	i used unetbootin to make the live usb	06:30
corigo	Oops, on my droid, and forgot what channel	06:30
abhi_nav	psycho_oreos: there is nothing called x86_64 on that download page :-(	06:31
poagester	i am becoming extremely frustrated with installing ubuntu. no matter what I do I get the same error. The error is as follows: Unable to find a medium containing a live file system. why?	06:31
Scotie	Hallo help	06:31
darolu	harish, use the USB pendrive creator under System - Admin	06:31
ActionParsnip	!help \| Scotie	06:32
ubottu	Scotie: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	06:32
Losha	poagester: even with 8.04 ?	06:32
harish	darolu, i will try that now	06:32
ranjan	abhi_nav, what happened??	06:32
poagester	Losha: yes	06:32
darolu	abhi_nav, AMD64 = x86_64, different ways to call the same thing	06:32
nicholas1988	I need help correcting the Conexant audio bug	06:32
Scotie	After upgrade i miss my funtion on the corner of the windows program s	06:32
Scotie	function	06:32
nicholas1988	my speakers are emitting an annoying popping sound which never ceases	06:33
ActionParsnip	Scotie: do you mean the top bar with the name / close / minimise etc?	06:33
abhi_nav	ranjan: firs of all I am confused between 32 or 64 bit ? I want fast speed so thinkin for 64 bit. but then after lots of strugl now I found locatin for 64 bit 9.10 torrent download	06:33
Scotie	someone a idea	06:33
Losha	poagester: you could try unetbootin, I suppose. http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ It's supposed to allow a cd-less install...	06:33
abhi_nav	ranjan: you have any suggestion for 32 or 64? I want speed	06:33
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: 64bit will only give speed in certain cases	06:33
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: only certain means? not always? I want always	06:34
ranjan	abhi_nav, first of all you should know whether your processor supports 64bit	06:34
abhi_nav	ranjan: yes it is	06:34
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: for standard desktop stuff there will be no speed increase, if you do lots of music encoding, dvd encoding then it is advantageous	06:34
corigo	Loaded 4.4.1 on 9.10 and my plasma workspace is crashing! Nothing but a black desktop	06:34
Scotie	programs need to 64 bits too	06:34
Scotie	support	06:34
ActionParsnip	corigo: i'd ask in #kubuntu	06:34
harish	darolu, i get this error while trying to format the usb stick "DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.NotFound: The given volume was not found"	06:34
ranjan	abhi_nav, ok then go for 64bit..but i dont think a great speed difference will be there	06:34
abhi_nav	ranjan: we were just discussing that only. and conclude that my intel centrino core 2 duo T5750 2.0GH is 64 bi	06:34
abhi_nav	t	06:34
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: 64bit isnt twice as fast	06:35
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: ohh I see	06:35
poagester	Losha: the name is a little misleading ;-)	06:35
ranjan	abhi_nav, ok.. but why you are going for 64bit??	06:35
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: why? Theoritically it should be naa?	06:35
Losha	poagester: I suppose it is...	06:35
harish	ActionParsnip, i get this error error while trying to format usb stick "DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.NotFound: The given volume was not found"	06:35
darolu	harish, use GParted to format your USB pendrive, if you don't have it install it via software centre or with apt-get install gparted	06:35
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: no, its just a larger adressing range for ram	06:35
abhi_nav	ranjan: speed	06:35
ranjan	abhi_nav, do you feel 32 bit is slow...?? is the applications running thats slow are the boot time	06:35
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: and larger data registers in the cpu	06:35
abhi_nav	ranjan: tooooooooooo slow :-(	06:36
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: i think you need to read on what 64bit actually means	06:36
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: ok	06:36
ranjan	abhi_nav, you are using which version of ubuntu??	06:36
poagester	Losha: so i could take the drive that i want it installed to out of the other box and use unetbootin to install ubuntu on it right	06:36
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Losha	abhi_nav: perhaps I should have said more when I told you it would be hardly worth upgrading...	06:36
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: ok I read. where? I google it?	06:36
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: its an option	06:36
abhi_nav	ranjan: 9.04 32 bit	06:36
roberj13	Finally done banging my head against the wall getting sound running on my hp dv6	06:37
poagester	then install grub on hd0	06:37
darolu	abhi_nav, with 64-bit system you will use your dual-core processor, right now with 32-bit OS you are wasting a lot of power; is like having a 8-lanes highway with 6 lanes blocked.	06:37
abhi_nav	Losha: means? Please tell me more?	06:37
nicholas1988	rober, what did you do	06:37
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: hmm	06:37
nicholas1988	I am in desperate need of help here	06:37
abhi_nav	darolu: :D	06:37
harish	darolu, i have gparted, how do i recognize my usb in gparted	06:37
roberj13	http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7299632&postcount=60	06:37
nicholas1988	I have a Conexant sound card giving me a popping nose which never ceases	06:37
roberj13	worked like a charm	06:37
darolu	abhi_nav, enabling all 8-lanes won't rise the speed limit, but more cars will be able to run; same thing happens with your system	06:37
roberj13	drums scared the hell out of me i haven't heard sound in so long	06:37
ranjan	abhi_nav, ok...just check your system monitor whether its using the full resources...	06:38
airtonix	/msg ubottu test	06:38
abhi_nav	darolu: ohhh ok	06:38
Losha	poagester: yes, you could. Or you theoretically install ubuntu onto a disk using a windows box...	06:38
darolu	harish, on the top-right corner you can select the device, if it is not listed unplug it and plug it back	06:38
ranjan	abhi_nav, i heard that there was some bug which used the full processing power on fresh installation	06:38
abhi_nav	ranjan: cup1 11% cpu220% memory: 400mb swap: 360 mb (all values approximate)	06:39
ActionParsnip	roberj13: i uninstall those sounds, very annoying imho	06:39
poagester	Losha: I don't always think of the easy ways, thanx	06:39
harish	darolu, i selected the device,how do i format it...there is no format option in gparted?	06:39
harish	darolu, i found it	06:40
Losha	poagester: I have made a virtue out of being lazy...	06:40
roberj13	ActionParsnip, I'm just glad I can finally 'hear' something. I could see how that would get annoying.	06:40
ranjan	abhi_nav, ok'	06:40
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: ranjan: darolu: ok can I upgrade form 32 bit to 64 bit in future?	06:40
darolu	abhi_nav, 64-bit OS doesn't make the system faster per-se, but you get better performance, i.e. I use audio converter apps, with 32-bit it takes 30 secs to convert a ogg to mp3, with 64-bits it takes the same 30 secs... but I can convert 4 songs at the same time vs 1 at at a time with 32-bit os/app :)	06:40
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: no, you have to re-install	06:40
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: ok	06:41
darolu	harish, yeah just right click on the partition you want to format, remember to click the green mark on top to apply changes	06:41
abhi_nav	darolu: hmmm	06:41
cubuntu	Jimmy Page	06:41
harish	darolu, i have done that...thanks	06:41
abhi_nav	ActionParsnip: ranjan: darolu: So now I am going for 64 bit. Thank all of you!!!	06:41
ActionParsnip	abhi_nav: any time	06:41
ranjan	abhi_nav, ok..great..	06:41
ranjan	anybody aware of the HAL removal in Lucid	06:42
roberj13	hrm, decided for no 64 bit, but can't remember why. Oh well, seems fast enough for now	06:42
ShadeS	i'm afraid i ca'nt allow you to do that ranjan	06:42
abhi_nav	hmm	06:42
darolu	ranjan, yeah I read about it, I don't know how they are replacing it though	06:42
nicholas1988	its taking a long time to build but this might work, I downloaded the latest stable version of ALSA	06:43
ranjan	darolu, yes..but the booting is really faster..	06:43
cubuntu	hi	06:43
roberj13	How do I force close something that is hung up?	06:43
ranjan	darolu, i tested it and it takes just 12 seconds to boot	06:43
harish	darolu, usb startup disk creator is in the process....i have a question meanwhile	06:43
darolu	harish, don't ask to ask a question just ask =)	06:43
ActionParsnip	roberj13: xkill if its a gui based app, or killall in cli for both daemons and gui apps	06:44
harish	can i replace the 32bit with 64bit staying inside the 32bit	06:44
harish	:)	06:44
abhi_nav	roberj13 add force icon to your gnome panel. then if your aps hangs then you click on this icon and then click on hanged aps and then that aps forcefully closed	06:44
ranjan	harish, no..you cant..coz the whole system will be build for the present architecture whether 64 or 32	06:45
ActionParsnip	harish: nope, clean install only i'm afraid	06:45
darolu	harish, I don't know of any method to do that; the closer thing I know, is to install a server-kernel, it helps when you have more that 3GB of RAM for example	06:45
letusgothen	Gñardlings	06:45
roberj13	abhi_nav, that worked, thanks, let's try this again	06:45
abhi_nav	roberj13 hmm :)	06:46
corigo	In 64 you can run 32 with backports, but not the reverse	06:46
abhi_nav	corigo: ahh ok	06:46
tehbaut	can I use the command "grub-install /dev/sda" if the /dev/sda disk has no linux install on it?	06:46
harish	i hope this time the clean install will work from usb	06:46
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ActionParsnip	harish: as long as the image you dowloaded tested as ok and you mae it right it will work	06:47
darolu	yes, it is important to run md5sum check to iso files, always.	06:47
harish	ActionParsnip, i downloaded the image through direct download	06:48
harish	darolu, do i still test it	06:48
harish	i dont know anything about md5sum test	06:48
tehbaut	how do I install grub onto a disk without an ubuntu partition? grub is asking for a device for /boot/grub	06:48
tehbaut	should I put it on the windows partition?	06:48
darolu	harish, it is recommended to md5sum check everything, specially OS iso files	06:49
harish	darolu, how do i do that	06:49
darolu	harish, open a terminal and run "md5sum <yourfile>"	06:49
harish	darolu, ok	06:49
roberj13	today I finally broke myself of the windows pacifier and removed it from my computer :)	06:49
ActionParsnip	harish: doesnt matter, it still neds md5 testing	06:49
ardchoille	roberj13: yay!	06:50
ActionParsnip	!md5 \| harish	06:50
ubottu	harish: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows	06:50
darolu	harish, it will print a large code, compare it to the ubuntu hashes, I'll link you in a moment	06:50
abhi_nav	roberj13 :)	06:50
afsal	hello can any1 help me connecting my modem i am new to ubuntu	06:50
darolu	harish, here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes	06:50
trinikrono	afsal: what kinda modem	06:50
roberj13	I was booting it less and less often, until I realized there's nothing on there that I do that I need it for, except sound which I just fixed	06:50
afsal	its wll wireless phone	06:50
trinikrono	afsal: a what?	06:51
afsal	usb modem	06:51
ActionParsnip	roberj13: most users find that too, gamers are still tied if their stuffgames wont run native or via wine	06:52
abhi_nav	I read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit. helpful!!!	06:52
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nicholas1988	the VIM portion of the command is not working but I think I set it up wrong	06:52
harish	darolu, how do know the path of the file	06:52
harish	i have it on my desktop	06:53
budah	im using Vim command to edit a config how can go back? ctrl and c dont seem to work lol	06:53
harish	how do i give the path	06:53
TrueSongMedia	So, is 10.04 going to have the WM buttons back where they should be? On the right?	06:53
trinikrono	afsal: i am not sure on that one	06:53
trinikrono	=\	06:53
jsoft	Vim eh. If only emacs had vim bindings.	06:53
edinho	budah, uses nano	06:53
harish	can i know the path by right clicking on it?	06:54
darolu	harish, type "md5sum /home/<user>/myfile" or simply "cd /path/to/the/file" and run the md5sum there	06:54
afsal	anybody who can help connecting my modem	06:54
ActionParsnip	!adsl \| afsal	06:54
ubottu	afsal: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE	06:54
ActionParsnip	!lucid \| TrueSongMedia	06:54
ubottu	TrueSongMedia: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule	06:54
afsal	i tried for the past 5 days it couldnt help	06:55
budah	vim how do i write?	06:55
TrueSongMedia	I know what it is, ActionParsnip	06:55
TrueSongMedia	I'm using it :P	06:55
ActionParsnip	TrueSongMedia: read the WHOLE factoid	06:55
afsal	i am new to ubuntu	06:55
jsoft	budah: :q!	06:55
TrueSongMedia	lol oh. Sorry. (not entirely awake)	06:55
edinho	budah, nano /yourfille	06:56
budah	ah yeh i got how it works now,	06:56
ActionParsnip	TrueSongMedia: np, yur whole support is there til release day	06:56
budah	strange stuff :/	06:56
darolu	afsal, try to be more specific, what kind of computer and modem do you have?	06:56
kk03	I have school computer :D	06:56
ActionParsnip	TrueSongMedia: but helping in here is no bad thing (i use lucid too)	06:56
kk03	Im in school	06:56
abhi_nav	kk03: ??	06:56
budah	im trying to setup mutt on ubuntu server from this tutorial from buntu forum	06:56
afsal	i have acer laptop and usb modem	06:56
abhi_nav	!ask \| kk03	06:57
ubottu	kk03: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	06:57
kk03	WTF?	06:57
harish	darolu, is there any other way to find the path	06:57
harish	i am not able to give the path	06:57
kk03	HAHAHA	06:57
ActionParsnip	afsal: have the modem attatched and run: lsusb use the 8 character hex id to find guides online	06:57
harish	darolu, something like right clicking and knowing the path	06:58
darolu	harish, in Nautilus, click on the icon that is next (to the left) of the navigation buttons, below the "back" button	06:58
ActionParsnip	kk03: do you have an ubuntu question?	06:58
kk03	:D :d	06:58
kk03	:D	06:58
kk03	No you bastard	06:58
budah	yeh thx nano is alot better	06:58
kk03	looooooooooooool	06:58
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kk03	"Blueghost" hahahaha	06:58
jsoft	:\|	06:58
darolu	harish, that way you'll see the full path, right clicking on the file also works, it says "Place /home/etc/etc"	06:58
afsal	Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub	06:58
afsal	Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub	06:58
afsal	Bus 004 Device 002: ID 109b:3197	06:58
afsal	Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub	06:58
afsal	Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0421:002f Nokia Mobile Phones	06:58
FloodBot2	afsal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	06:58
afsal	Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub	06:58
abhi_nav	!paste \| afsal	06:59
ubottu	afsal: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.	06:59
jsoft	Oink	06:59
ActionParsnip	afsal: dont flood like that, nobody needs the output but you, use the id of the phone in websearches to find guides	06:59
ireallydidreadit	Where can I ask a programming related question?	07:00
afsal	any ubbuntu nerd here	07:00
ActionParsnip	ireallydidreadit: #c #C++ #python #java	07:00
Aciid	##programming?	07:00
darolu	ireallydidreadit, there are language-specific channels	07:00
ActionParsnip	ireallydidreadit: depends on the language	07:00
ireallydidreadit	It's a C related one	07:00
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ireallydidreadit	Something I can't quite wrap my head around	07:00
darolu	ireallydidreadit, type /join #C	07:00
indianhacker	Does ubuntu have any selinux equivalent thing?	07:01
ireallydidreadit	indianhacker: It should	07:01
afsal	its not there in web	07:01
jsoft	I think it has selinux	07:01
abhi_nav	am i connected?	07:01
ireallydidreadit	Yes	07:01
abhi_nav	can anyone read me?	07:01
ireallydidreadit	Ping	07:01
afsal	its possible connecting with xp	07:01
ireallydidreadit	Pong	07:01
abhi_nav	/ping is not replying	07:01
ireallydidreadit	You are connected	07:02
kaolbrec	abhi_nav, I see you.	07:02
afsal	yeah abinav	07:02
ActionParsnip	afsal: you need to use wvdial someway	07:02
ireallydidreadit	I wish #C didn't require registration :\|	07:02
ActionParsnip	afsal: http://forum.daffodilvarsity.edu.bd/index.php?topic=15.0	07:02
jsoft	Just regsiter :)	07:02
indianhacker	ok jsoft i am trying it	07:02
ActionParsnip	ireallydidreadit: why, registration is FREE	07:02
ireallydidreadit	xP	07:02
afsal	i i tried with wvdial	07:03
kk03_	UBUNTU	07:03
kk03_	Ubuntu	07:03
kk03_	"LEaving"	07:03
kk03_	HAHAHA	07:03
kk03_	LOL	07:03
kk03_	PS	07:03
kk02	moro	07:03
jsoft	Are you trying to do normal dial up?	07:03
kk03_	Kato moro	07:03
kk02	XD	07:03
kk03_	MXD	07:04
kk02	lol	07:04
FloodBot2	kk03_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	07:04
kk03_	Moro arttu	07:04
budah	:/ what do i put in gmails POP forwarding ? when it says forward a copy of incoming mail to?	07:04
harish	darolu, this is the path of the file	07:04
harish	my cursor is at harish@harishz:~$	07:05
budah	im trying to setup mutt but this tutorial is fat to advanced for my knowledge . of ubuntu lol	07:05
budah	far* >.<	07:05
jsoft	budah: why do you want to use mutt?	07:06
darolu	harish, ~/ means you are at your home directory, in your case: /home/harish if you downloaded the iso file to your Desktop simply type "cd Desktop" and it will show ~/Desktop$	07:06
afsal	did any1 get my wvdial output	07:07
harish	darolu, when i type cd desktop it says no such file or directory	07:07
darolu	harish, try with a capital D ;) press TAB to auto-complete	07:07
harish	darolu, it worked	07:08
USS	Hmmm no one will respond to my greetings in #C, perhaps no one is listening >:\|	07:08
darolu	harish, when it doubt, you can type "ls" to see the current directory content	07:08
afsal	hey wvdial says cannot open /dev/ttyusb0	07:09
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afsal	any1	07:10
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afsal	actionparsnip u there?	07:12
harish	darolu, the md5 Hash matches with ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso	07:12
sie	Are there some ati drivers in repos?	07:12
harish	so, it should work this time	07:12
afsal	darolu can u help me	07:13
darolu	harish, that's good news; yeah it should work, if you want to be extra-safe, when you boot from it, select the "check integrity of CD" (or similar, I don't remember the exact phrase)	07:13
harish	darolu, sure..will do...thanks...catch u in 64bit	07:13
eycel	can some one help me?	07:13
darolu	afsal, I don't have experience using wvdial, sorry	07:13
afsal	k	07:14
darolu	harish, good luck!	07:14
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darolu	afsal, however when I deal with something new, I start with the manual; try typing "man wvdial" in your terminal	07:14
eycel	can some one check my site and tell me if its working in there firefox? the site is http://www.mplays.co.cc	07:14
jsoft	eycel: ya it works.	07:15
eycel	can u make a comment in the news section for me, i just updated it...	07:15
eycel	thx btw	07:15
jsoft	I dunno, it contains news.	07:15
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afsal	then what?	07:16
darolu	eycel, it works, but is kinda heavy, my firefox acts a bit slow	07:16
eycel	says comments	07:16
eycel	click on comments	07:16
eycel	and make one...	07:16
eycel	yes i have flash in it atm daroul	07:16
eycel	to slow to navigate?	07:17
darolu	eycel, I can navigate, it just scrolls kinda slow, then again, Firefox is not precisely the faster/lightest browser imo	07:18
eycel	ic	07:18
eycel	you have a gpu?	07:18
afsal	any1 help me with usb modem this is my last hope	07:19
darolu	Yes, I do	07:19
eycel	whats wrong adsal?	07:20
eycel	i know a bit about modems	07:20
darolu	afsal, type "lsusb" in your terminal and look for your modem, if you don't see it there you need to install the driver for it (or load the right module)	07:21
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afsal	i can see my modem	07:21
letusgothen	Gñardlings	07:23
eycel	thx darlu...	07:23
darolu	np	07:23
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darolu	eycel, your site works very neat in Webkit-based browsers	07:25
aruzsi	Hi, Please help me configure my fonts dir! Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit.	07:26
jsoft	I am bored.	07:26
darolu	eycel, jomlaa??	07:27
darolu	joomla*	07:27
aruzsi	I put my 9 pieces TTF fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-kofe and I use fc-cache -f -v command.	07:28
tsun	wanted to install firebug on ubuntu 9.10 but got following error: E: bugzilla3: subproces installed post-installation script gaf een foutwaarde 14 terug	07:28
tsun	anyone?	07:28
leagris	tsun, do you install firebug from an ubuntu repository or from a downloaded XPI ?	07:29
seb_	someone who can help in using an old radeon 9600 (3D) on 9.10 ?	07:29
tsun	from ubuntu repository	07:30
tsun	why that question?	07:30
leagris	tsun, I use XPI installed firebug with abrowser and it work ok (Ubuntu Karmic 64bit)	07:30
budah	.save	07:30
letusgothen	Gñardlings	07:31
leagris	tsun, ther may be differencies between packaged and XPI install. XPI install is only local to profile as packaged version is shared among all users.	07:31
budah	I'm trying to install a script for irssi but i cant find Put the script in ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun/ i know this is clueless but what am i doing wrong??	07:32
seb_	my poor radeon 9600 don't let me play 3d games....can someone help ?	07:32
leagris	tsun, furthermore XPI installed extension are automatically updated when a new version is available. Apt installed extensions depend on packager maintainer to provide an update	07:32
darolu	seb_, that card is no longer supported by ATI :'( I have the same card	07:32
darolu	so there is not much we can do	07:33
tsun	great leagris, i'll check it out	07:33
tsun	txs	07:33
seb_	darolu, i know...but i was thinking that a xorg.conf genius could helped me!! :)	07:33
tsun	it's also f*cked up that i can't install the package anymore	07:34
ukebane	tsun it's a known bug which has been fixed in bugzilla 3.2.5.1-1	07:34
darolu	tsun, your best shot is to install it from: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843	07:34
ukebane	but ubuntu has an oldr version	07:34
darolu	imo	07:34
Berzerker	hi my wireless stopped working	07:34
ukebane	so what darolu said	07:34
Berzerker	doesn't show up in the icon on the notification bar	07:34
ukebane	Berzerker, is your dmesg saying anything?	07:34
Berzerker	hardware drivers says Broadcom STA isn't active, when I try to activate it, it says "Sorry, this installation failed"	07:35
afsal	ukebane do u know how to connect usb modem	07:35
leagris	UR welcome tsun. Here it is: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843	07:35
ukebane	Berzerker, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305906	07:36
tsun	firebug up 'n' running ;)	07:36
tsun	txs all	07:36
ukebane	afsal, sorry, no :(	07:36
Berzerker	ukebane, <Berzerker> hardware drivers says Broadcom STA isn't active, when I try to activate it, it says "Sorry, this installation failed"	07:36
afsal	tsun	07:36
nine1	Where can I see what kind of gfx card I have?	07:37
nine1	I mean with what tool?	07:38
leagris	nine1, open a shell console and type lspci \| grep VGA	07:39
tehbaut	how can I remove grub2 from the MBR without destroying the MBR?	07:40
nine1	leagris: Thanks.	07:40
afsal	leagris do u know how to connect usb modem	07:40
kyppcgeek	hello everyone	07:40
cactacaea	I use Ubuntu, and I decided to try out xfce (apt-get install xfce-desktop) and decided i didn't like it and uninstalled it, but by main login page when I boot up is still saying "XFCE desktop", how can I cahnge that back?	07:40
ActionParsnip	Yo yo yo	07:42
darolu	cactacaea, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"	07:42
cactacaea	darolu: Thanks	07:42
leagris	afsal, never done it myself but what kind of modem is it? DSL/cable/brand, does it show with lsusb?	07:42
seb_	should i get a previous version of ubuntu to use the radeon 9600 for 3d gaming?	07:43
seb_	i mean, is it a good idea?	07:43
darolu	seb_, well technically you only need an old kernel	07:43
ActionParsnip	Darlou: and an older xorg version maybe?	07:44
darolu	true	07:44
seb_	yes, how can make that?	07:44
seb_	i'm pretty new in ubuntu	07:44
leagris	seb_, your best bet is getting a cheap but modern video card. You will get same performance or better with a cheap $30 gfx card	07:45
ActionParsnip	Seb_: I think jaunty will do it, intrepid dies next month	07:45
seb_	and the use of this graphic card is my only "problem"	07:45
darolu	seb_, uhmmm I think adding 8.04 repositories could work, and install the old stuff that way	07:45
ActionParsnip	Seb_: +1 to leargis	07:45
kyppcgeek	guys im on pirc. where is ubuntu partition manager?	07:45
darolu	seb_, I would install 8.04 though	07:46
ActionParsnip	Kyppc	07:46
kyppcgeek	yeah action	07:46
afsal	i got tired of ubuntu	07:46
darolu	You can install the legacy driver (ATI Catalyst 9.3) in Jaunty either	07:46
seb_	Thanks for all your advices!!	07:46
kyppcgeek	seboyan is too limikting	07:46
ukebane	Berzerker, you tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305906 too?	07:46
ActionParsnip	Kyppcgeek: you can use gparted, parted, fdisk, cfdisk to name 2	07:46
darolu	afsal, I heard google is a powerful friend... use it	07:46
kyppcgeek	from gnome?	07:47
darolu	you CAN'T install ATI Legacy driver in Jaunty*	07:47
ActionParsnip	Kyppcgeek: gparted will run in gnome	07:47
seb_	hum...	07:47
kyppcgeek	k	07:47
kyppcgeek	tx	07:47
seb_	what should i understand?	07:47
darolu	seb_, try with 8.04 it is a LTS, I think it is supported until April 2011	07:48
AbortD	whats the ubuntu lucid channel?	07:48
kyppcgeek	I would recommend Linux Mint instead of Saboyan	07:48
ActionParsnip	Seb_: grab a cheap nvidia card and you will have a super easy life	07:48
darolu	#lucid+l I think	07:48
darolu	!lucid	07:48
ubottu	Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule	07:48
ActionParsnip	Abortd: #ubuntu+1	07:48
AbortD	thx	07:48
seb_	it's a real dilema	07:49
nine1	What's the name of repo for non open ATI drivers?	07:49
loquitus	So how do I figure out who/what is using UDP port 162 on my machine?	07:49
darolu	seb_, what ActionParsnip said is true, nvidia has far better support for Linux	07:49
seb_	buying a new card...formatting my hard disk and getting a previous version...	07:49
leagris	loquitus, sudo fuser -v -n udp 162	07:49
ActionParsnip	Nine1: its in the default repos, the hardware driver app will install the driver if it sees you can use it	07:49
darolu	nine1, I don't know of a repo for ATI drivers, but you can use jockey or go to ATI website	07:50
kyppcgeek	next question. how does one find the UUID?	07:50
loquitus	leagris: great. that returned nothing, yet my SNMP trap daemon is saying it can't get at 162	07:50
ActionParsnip	Seb_: just a new card is all you need	07:50
darolu	kyppcgeek, with "sudo blkid"	07:50
ActionParsnip	Kyppcgeek: sudo blkid	07:50
cactacaea	darolu: It didn't work.	07:50
seb_	that's a pity cause, i bought this card 6 months ago in order to replace my (very) old geforce mx 440...	07:51
nine1	ActionParsnip: Which app? (name of it)	07:51
leagris	loquitus, ports <1024 are only allowed by root or root loaded processes	07:51
cactacaea	I use Ubuntu, and I decided to try out xfce (apt-get install xfce-desktop) and decided i didn't like it and uninstalled it, but by main login page when I boot up is still saying "XFCE desktop", how can I cahnge that back?	07:51
ActionParsnip	Nine1: gksudo jockey-gtk	07:51
nine1	ActionParsnip: What exactly should it do? ;-D	07:52
ActionParsnip	cactacaea: sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm ,may do it	07:52
darolu	cactacaea, that's the only way I know, when you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" it asks you what graphical login you want to use ?	07:52
loquitus	leagris: then something really weird is going on... net-snmp won't open port 162	07:52
commander_	hey i tries 2 run safari 4 via Wine and try to uninstall wine to do over help	07:52
darolu	if you have gdm installed that is	07:52
Timberly	Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*	07:52
ActionParsnip	Nine1: bring up a dialogue to install the driver, its also in the system -> admin menu labelled hardware drivers	07:52
seb_	ActionParsnip: thanks for advice, do you have an idea of a AGP card that i could buy for a small price?	07:52
leagris	seb_, guess qhat, nvidia publish binary black boxes blobs for linux and they still support these very old cards. Ati did not provide open source drivers until recently and has showed interest in free software only recently. Unfortunately their older cards are abandonware.	07:53
nine1	Timberly: My system broke. ._.	07:53
theadmin	Timberly: Do not post such stuff, also, Ubuntu doesn't allow that	07:53
cactacaea	darolu: it didn't ask me anything	07:53
darolu	Timberly, don't try that...	07:53
IP-v6	hi	07:53
IP-v6	does anybody who use ppa:daily for chromium has got font rendering problem ?	07:53
nine1	Timberly: You forgot --no-preserve-root	07:53
cactacaea	darolu: it just waited a few seconds and then went back to the main prompt	07:53
ActionParsnip	Seb: geforce6 will be mega cheap and run well	07:53
ActionParsnip	Ip-v6: I use chromium daily, its flawless	07:53
seb_	thanks guys! you're very nice	07:53
theadmin	What is the command to download a Bazaar branch? "push" does not seem to be it :/	07:53
seb_	i will look for a geforce6 so!!	07:54
darolu	cactacaea, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" it should run a program that asks you what graphical login you want to use; maybe it uninstalled gdm when you installed xfce? try reinstalling it "sudo apt-get install gdm"	07:54
IP-v6	ActionParsnip, yesterday i ve updated chromium and fonts were realy ugly	07:54
theadmin	darolu: XFCE uses GDM in Ubuntu	07:55
IP-v6	removed and installed chrome froum google	07:55
brando753	will i be able to print with an infred device in ubuntu	07:55
brando753	?	07:55
Timberly	?	07:55
Tapout	is there a way to measure the video performance on a video card with ubuntu?	07:55
leagris	seb_, there are cheapo Nvidia 3x0 lower end cards now	07:55
Timberly	is there a way to measure the video performance on a video card with ubuntu?	07:55
Timberly	seb_, there are cheapo Nvidia 3x0 lower end cards now	07:55
ActionParsnip	Ip-v6: I haven't ran it for 15 hours due to work but I'll try it later. Log a bug if its bad	07:55
Timberly	Ip-v6: I haven't ran it for 15 hours due to work but I'll try it later. Log a bug if its bad	07:55
IP-v6	now fonts are realy good	07:55
FloodBot2	Timberly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	07:55
Timberly	now fonts are realy good	07:55
Timberly	Timberly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	07:55
IP-v6	wit stable chrome	07:55
Timberly	wit stable chrome	07:55
IP-v6	with*	07:55
Timberly	with*	07:56
darolu	theadmin, oh I see, so it only changed cactacea's theme	07:56
Timberly	theadmin, oh I see, so it only changed cactacea's theme	07:56
ActionParsnip	Ip-v6: as long as I can webbrowse I'm happy	07:56
Timberly	Ip-v6: as long as I can webbrowse I'm happy	07:56
FloodBot2	Timberly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	07:56
Timberly	Timberly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	07:56
theadmin	!ops \| Timberly repeats everyone's messages	07:56
ubottu	Timberly repeats everyone's messages: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!	07:56
Timberly	!ops \| Timberly repeats everyone's messages	07:56
Timberly	Timberly repeats everyone's messages: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi01,	07:56
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brando753	will i be able to print with an infred device in ubuntu	07:57
pider	anyone know if there are someone working on a driver for this webcam: 041e:4055 Creative Technology, Ltd Live! Cam Video IM Pro	07:57
theadmin	brando753: Most likely yes, you might need additional software though	07:57
ActionParsnip	Brando753: there's a question about it on launchpad questions I posted an answer to, not sure if it worked	07:57
Tapout	is there a way to measure the video performance on a video card with ubuntu?	07:58
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ActionParsnip	Pider: websearch for the 8 character hex id, you will find guide	07:58
ActionParsnip	S	07:58
seb_	glxgears	07:58
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brando753	the printer is A sIPIX portable printer its available as an option for printer drivers, Im just worried about the infred	07:58
ActionParsnip	Seb_: its not a good test	07:58
theadmin	There, found it. "bzr branch lp:anewt". Now, where the hell is it saving it? o_O	07:58
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brando753	before i buy it	07:58
WhatAmIDoingHere	try before you buy	07:58
IP-v6	ActionParsnip, how can i log a bug for chromium daily ? from launchped ?	07:59
brando753	ebay, so I cant	07:59
ActionParsnip	Ip-v6: look on the ppa page it should say	07:59
harry	helo	07:59
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pider	I try that	07:59
IP-v6	ActionParsnip, ok	07:59
seb_	it looks like if geforce 6 is for PCI express bus	07:59
jussi01	theadmin: in the folder where you called that from..	08:00
seb_	and i'm with an agp slot	08:00
theadmin	jussi01: oh crap, so it will end up in my home folder :/ will have a hard time sorting it all out	08:00
jussi01	theadmin: it usually puts a folder there	08:00
leagris	seb_, if you can get hand on a Geforce 5700 these where awesome	08:00
theadmin	jussi01: Phew, it did.	08:01
ActionParsnip	Tapout:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=274157	08:01
darolu	IP-v6, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/list works for me	08:01
xp	hi	08:01
ActionParsnip	Seb_: then go one down to geforce5	08:01
seb_	ok	08:02
IP-v6	darolu, thanks i'm looking	08:02
leagris	seb_, PNY GeForce 6200 - 512 Mo TV-Out/DVI - AGP (NVIDIA GeForce 6200)	08:02
seb_	i maybe shoudln't have put the mx 440 in a trash box that fast...	08:02
seb_	O.o	08:03
ActionParsnip	Leagris: I have that in my main system but onboard :)	08:03
xp	h	08:03
leagris	seb_, you wold have gotten some bucks out of it at ebay :)	08:03
seb_	I read different infos...	08:03
theadmin	What happened to mirrors? :/ I can't download php5-cli because it sezzit that server not found	08:04
ActionParsnip	!info php5-cli	08:04
ubottu	php5-cli (source: php5): command-line interpreter for the php5 scripting language. In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.10.dfsg.1-2ubuntu6.4 (karmic), package size 2449 kB, installed size 5268 kB	08:04
xp	gggg	08:04
ActionParsnip	Theadmin: its on the main repo, weird	08:04
seb_	leagris: you're right, it's agp 8x	08:04
ActionParsnip	Theadmin: does: sudo apt-get update ,help?	08:05
leagris	seb_, for twice that price there is	08:05
leagris	NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT - 128 Mo TV-Out/DVI - AGP	08:05
kyppcgeek	ewww	08:05
theadmin	ActionParsnip: Let's try...	08:05
tehbaut	Losha: hot dang, it turns out I got taken by a longstanding ubuntu installer bug :/	08:05
ActionParsnip	Leagris, the 6200 was 512mb ;)	08:05
darolu	leagris, how much is the 6200? I may change my radeon 9600	08:06
seb_	anyway, i'm mother card limited (AGP 4 x)	08:06
ActionParsnip	Seb_: then it will run at 4x	08:06
ActionParsnip	Seb_: agp will run as fast as the slowest part	08:06
seb_	Yes, my 9600 is running in 4x	08:06
sharetel	Hi all, I wish to install a network printer on Ubuntu to be used by users on Windows. Is it necessary to configure Samba for this?	08:07
seb_	i was thinking about the memory, 512 or 128 ?	08:07
ActionParsnip	Sharetel: its one way	08:07
tehbaut	Losha: apparently, ubuntu installs grub to the first connected disk... I installed ubuntu to a disk via usb, though... so my main disk's MBR got fudged	08:07
leagris	seb_, 36,94 €	08:07
theadmin	I get the following, ActionParsnip: П: Не удалось загрузить http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/universe/i18n/Translation-ru.gz Ошибка чтения, удалённый сервер прервал соединение [IP: 91.189.88.45 80] (W: Could not download... url here... Read error, remote server closed the connection) and then the ip	08:07
seb_	512 should be useless, no?	08:07
sharetel	Action: One way as in?	08:08
ActionParsnip	Sharetel: I did it that way, you can also setup cups nice to appear as a proint server and samba won't be needed	08:08
seb_	leagris: from wich one did you give the price?	08:08
leagris	seb_, depend if you plan on running windows games within wine	08:08
ActionParsnip	Theadmin: can you ping the server?	08:08
seb_	no, i would like to play spring TA	08:09
seb_	i guess that i won't use windows any more	08:09
theadmin	ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/399162/	08:09
seb_	in 2 months, i understood the power of linux	08:09
ActionParsnip	Theadmin: try a different server in software sources, maybe that one is having issues	08:09
sharetel	Yes, my intention is to install CUPS but am just too confused to understand it...there are two printers..HP2015 and HP2015dn. I would like to try the normal USB printer HP2015. Is it possible to use it on CUPS as a network printer?	08:09
Lovie	Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*	08:09
tehbaut	Losha: that explains why I thought the MBR from one disk got magically copied to another disk, when actually I only cloned two partitions via DD ...it just so happens that I had only recently installed ubuntu, so I didn't boot back into the fudged disk until after I both: installed ubuntu, and cloned those partitions	08:10
theadmin	ActionParsnip: Give me a sources.list line, i don't have a desktop environment...	08:10
tehbaut	Losha: I just thought I'd fill you in ;)	08:10
leagris	seb_, I intensively play Everquest2 within cedega and wine and that takes my 320GTX to its max	08:10
Lovie	Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*	08:10
lorenzosu	op?	08:11
lorenzosu	!op	08:11
ActionParsnip	Theadmin: change the archive.ubuntu.com to gb.archive.ubuntu.com save the file and run apt-get update and see if its better	08:11
ubottu	Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!	08:11
seb_	in fact, i booight the 9600 in order to play spring TA witgh better quality	08:11
Lovie	Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*	08:11
seb_	but it needed the lowest graphic details to run correctly	08:11
ActionParsnip	Leargis: is cedega worth the cash?	08:11
Marlon	Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*	08:11
ActionParsnip	!danger	08:11
ubottu	DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!	08:11
leagris	ActionParsnip, not anymore but it work for Everquest2	08:12
elky	lorenzosu, ugh, sorry. next time do "!op \| naughty person" and it'll happen quicker	08:12
lorenzosu	elky, oh thanks	08:12
ActionParsnip	Leargis: I guess you gotta cough up and pay the man sometimes huh :(	08:12
lorenzosu	elky, where naughty person is the nick right?	08:12
elky	lorenzosu, correct	08:12
lorenzosu	elky, ok thanks	08:13
theadmin	ActionParsnip: Hm, that seems to work.	08:13
seb_	do you know spring TA?	08:13
leagris	ActionParsnip, indeed I was dissapointed but it is off topic here. I guess wine work nicely beside it has some crash issues in EQ2, but it is realy free software.	08:14
ActionParsnip	Theadmin: guess the server you were accessing was being messed with. The uk server isn't right now (apparently) so will do you :)	08:14
theadmin	Now, any idea... i downloaded the anewt thing, but... err... makes no sense what to do next %)	08:14
aprilhare	hello. i found my system wouldn't boot when I got home; I had placed it into hibernation before leaving home. - I've booted off cd and am running fsck right now - but before it kept on dropping me to a shell and complaining it couldn't find the root partition... do i need to worry? - the main linux partition mounted fine when I accessed it after booting from cd	08:14
theadmin	ActionParsnip: I was downloading from us.archive.ubuntu.com	08:14
ActionParsnip	Theadmin: well now others folks know to look out :)	08:14
Cue	hey hey guys, hey...guys hey	08:15
Cue	with an ISO from ubuntu.com, does the repos come with the iso?	08:15
leagris	ActionParsnip, here is my Ubuntu box running EQ2: http://www.noiraude.net/videos/eq2linux.ogv	08:15
Cue	because I ordered a cd a long time ago, and I could apt-get from that disk, but with just a normal ISO, if you install it to a disk, can you use the repos?	08:15
theadmin	Cue: repos? Installer generates a sources.list on install, or on Live CD start	08:15
ActionParsnip	Aprilhare: check your /etc/fstab on the root internal partition and make sure it matches the output of: sudo blkid	08:16
malifal	!postfix	08:16
ubottu	postfix is the default !MTA and !MDA on Ubuntu. For help, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto - See also !MailServer	08:16
jaypetey	Can anyone tell me why "* * * * * /home/joe/scripts/system/wallpaper.py" wouldn't work with crontab? (I'm only running it every minute as for testing purposes)	08:16
Cue	theadmin, well friend needs to get wicd without an internet connection	08:16
Cue	to obtain a connection to the internet	08:16
aprilhare	ActionParsnip, correct it manually if not?	08:16
theadmin	Cue: packages.ubuntu.com	08:16
ActionParsnip	Aprilhare: sure, backup the current one before also	08:17
theadmin	jaypetey: Do you really expect it to execute like a program? :/ put "python " before the path	08:17
ActionParsnip	Leargis: on a phone on not g3 that will take ages, sorry dude	08:17
malifal	!MailServer	08:17
ubottu	Ubuntu supports the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) and provides mail server software of many kinds. You can install a basic email handling configuration with the "Mail server" task during installation, or with the "tasksel" command. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html	08:17
aprilhare	ActionParsnip, anything else or just panic? :)	08:17
llutz	jaypetey: your python script is executable and has a corrrrect shebang?	08:17
Cue	theadmin, I don't think you get it - it's not me, and he doesn't have connection to the internet, I remember on my old disk I could apt-get from the CD, like I was installed, and not on the internet, but there were some packages on the CD itself.	08:18
ActionParsnip	Aprilhare: can't think of anyhting else	08:18
Cue	Like build-essential and stuff	08:18
leagris	ActionParsnip, ;d yes sorry	08:18
Jordan_U	Cue: You are thinking of the DVD.	08:18
jaypetey	theadmin, it should execute like a program, since it has the correct shebang, and is marked executable (can run from terminal no problems)	08:18
jaypetey	llutz, yes, it is/does	08:18
Jordan_U	Cue: The DVD images contain all of main.	08:18
theadmin	Cue: There are on DVD, not on CD	08:18
aprilhare	can anyone remember that POP3 also has functionality "POP3 Send"? I remember that the mail client YAM for Amiga used to support POP3 Send	08:18
seb_	guys: what do you think about this card ?	08:18
seb_	http://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/97813130.htm?ca=11_s	08:18
Cue	oh	08:19
ActionParsnip	Cue: you can use the cd as a repo, there's not as much as the dvd though	08:19
aprilhare	it was superior to SMTP however few clients supported POP3 Send	08:19
jaypetey	theadmin, but i'll give the "python ..." a try	08:19
leagris	seb_, are you from france?	08:19
Cue	and when you 'order' a copy from ubuntu.com they send you the dvd?	08:19
seb_	yes	08:19
Haffe	seb_: Make sure it's not a 6200TC at least.	08:19
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theadmin	jaypetey: Well, crontab messes stuff a lot...	08:19
Jordan_U	Cue: Not for the free service.	08:19
llutz	theadmin: it doesn't	08:20
jaypetey	theadmin, llutz, if it still doesn't work, do you know what my first step in fixing it would be?	08:21
seb_	29 e is cheap no?	08:21
* aprilhare looks over the POP3 wiki and iscovers a reference to "XTND XMIT" but holds little hope that any Ubuntu compatible client supports such POP3 extensions - does anyone know different?		08:21
llutz	jaypetey: its listed with "crontab -l"?	08:21
jaypetey	llutz, yessir	08:21
llutz	jaypetey: isn't it started at all or does it just not work as expected?	08:22
theadmin	jaypetey: And does the user who the crontab belongs to have exec permissions?	08:22
jaypetey	llutz, don't think it's starting (the script is only 3 lines, kind of hard to tell but should work)	08:23
jaypetey	theadmin, the user is me (or this account) which is the same account for the crontab and who created the script	08:23
tehbaut	is there a ctrl+alt+del for shutdown (instead of reboot) when at the grub interface?	08:23
llutz	jaypetey: add something like "date >/tmp/scriptcheck" to the beginning of your script to check if it runs	08:24
EviLz	Almost FUD(Undetected by Most Antivirus) link to httpbotnet with sandbox report and binary -> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QROLABXQ (The Password to the .zip is password) Trying to get this nasty sob report as the nets total count is surpassing 100k+ and no-one seems to want to toutch it.	08:25
jaypetey	llutz, would that be a bash line?	08:25
llutz	jaypetey: use python if youlike, i don't know how to do it in py	08:25
jaypetey	llutz, just making sure, i can run bash from python	08:26
llutz	jaypetey: ah ok	08:26
VEvilz	anyone see that link or know somewhere the binary can be submitted?	08:26
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amateja	hi, I get 'hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4' in /var/log/kernel.log while usb drive is plugged in and I'm not able to use any usb drive	08:26
ActionParsnip	Yo yo yo	08:27
amateja	I'd be grateful for any help	08:27
ActionParsnip	Amateja: wassup?	08:27
ShazNipples	VEvilz, what? You want a binary converter?	08:27
VEvilz	so would i lol	08:27
ShazNipples	To english?	08:27
Jordan_U	!ops \| VEvilz	08:28
ubottu	VEvilz: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!	08:28
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VEvilz	i posted under nick Evilz but got hit by smap filter	08:28
VEvilz	**spam	08:28
=== iGooglef is now known as iGooglf
VEvilz	megaupload link is to active botnet exe with #s over 100k	08:28
VEvilz	spreading like a mfer	08:28
VEvilz	trying to find somewhere to report it	08:28
ShazNipples	oh hi Jordan_U	08:28
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ShazbotMcNasty	lol	08:28
elky	VEvilz, what are you doing?	08:29
VEvilz	[VEvilz] trying to find somewhere to report it \|\| get it reported	08:29
amateja	ActionParsnip: I have IBM T42, Kubuntu 9.10 and a cannot use any usb drive - I solved this issue on PLD Linux Distribiution with unloading ehci_hcd module	08:29
VEvilz	link to httpbotnet with sandbox report and binary -> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QROLABXQ (The Password to the .zip is password)	08:29
VEvilz	""	08:29
Jordan_U	VEvilz: Stop posting that link	08:29
amateja	ActionParsnip: but on Kubuntu I have no such module	08:29
ActionParsnip	Amateja: have you checked http://laptop-linux.com	08:29
xmarux	Do any of the major music players like Rhythmbox, Banshee or even Songbird support music playing from an archive such as a 7zip archive?	08:30
s33ker	I am getting the following error while using apt-get Install "libxcb-render0-dev: Depends: libxcb-render0 (= 1.1.93-0ubuntu3) but 1.1.93-0ubuntu3.1 is to be installed". Any idea how this error can be resolved?	08:30
jaypetey	llutz, ok, turns out it is running... just not doing what it's supposed to. at least now i know it's not cron's fault. it's place to start	08:30
VEvilz	srsly?	08:30
Rake	Having an issue with getting sound working with ubuntu 9.10, have looked through forums with out anything working, in sound the sound card does not seem to be there with output being listed as 'dummy'. Sound card is onboard on a asus p5n32e SLi plus.	08:30
llutz	jaypetey: happy debugging, shouldn't be hard with 3 lines :)	08:30
wgrant	xmarux: Not directly, no. Why?	08:30
elky	VEvilz, this channel has nothing to do with botnets	08:30
ActionParsnip	Amateja: have a read of dmesg \| tail -n 20 ,when you attach a usb device too	08:30
VEvilz	yes but it is a linux based channel	08:30
amateja	ActionParsnip: well - no I haven't	08:30
VEvilz	with a large user base	08:31
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jaypetey	llutz, cron runs as me, right? (or as the user who's logged in when you edit crontab)	08:31
VEvilz	which would mean it is very likely someone might know who i should be talking to	08:31
xmarux	Cause of the way I do backups, it's easier on the server if i archive my albums before uploading instead of sending a bunch of small requests so i like to read from an archive, i can in windows in foobar2000	08:31
VEvilz	or where it can be posted	08:31
elky	VEvilz, this is a support channel for directl ubuntu related issues, not a soapbox	08:31
llutz	jaypetey: your crontab is run as you, right	08:31
amateja	ActionParsnip: dmesg \| tails -n 20 shows me onlye that message and nothing more	08:31
wgrant	xmarux: That sounds like a buggy backup system.	08:31
ActionParsnip	Xmarux: audio files don't compress well, if you use fileroller or arkiver etc you can tell it to open the file from there	08:31
poent	Hello everyone. I just installed 9.10 and have been having some issues setting up my wireless card. Would anyone mind giving me a hand? I'm using a WMP300N linksys pci card and have followed several tutorials online to no avail.	08:32
xmarux	wow, thanks for not helping at all	08:32
llutz	jaypetey: crontab -u <yourusernam> -l to be sure	08:32
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ActionParsnip	Amateja: its tail not tails	08:33
eycel	does any one know if you can use a usb wireless card on ubunto live cd?	08:33
ActionParsnip	Poent: the make and model is fairly moot, run: sudo lshw -C network ,you will see the chip used and can find guides using that	08:33
ActionParsnip	Eycel: sure you can	08:34
eycel	myn wont connect?	08:34
amateja	ActionParsnip: it's only a typo on irc - i did it correctly in console	08:34
ActionParsnip	Eycel: have you given it a driver?	08:34
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eycel	well its just plug-play	08:35
eycel	how do i give it one?	08:35
ActionParsnip	Amateja: ok then run: dmesg , and read the last few lines. It should show the kernel reacting to the insert.	08:35
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ActionParsnip	Eycel: run: sudo lshw -C network ,websearch for the product line to find guides how to set it up	08:35
ActionParsnip	Eycel: usb by definition is plug and play	08:36
eycel	well its a belkin wireless n	08:36
eycel	...	08:36
ActionParsnip	Amateja: laptoplinux site may give some clues	08:36
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ariza	helloooo... how to install ubuntu in sbc board???	08:37
ActionParsnip	Eycel: belkin don't make the chip in the device so "belkin" doesn't tell us much	08:37
amateja	ActionParsnip: dmesg shows me the same - only this message	08:37
ActionParsnip	Eycel: the command I gave will tell you which chip is used and you can find guides	08:37
amateja	ActionParsnip: I'll check up those sites	08:37
poent	ActionParsnip: i've been using the product ID to search already. The driver is installed already with ndiswrapper. When i open up the gui for ndis i get the error "unable to see if hardware is present".	08:38
ActionParsnip	Eycel: it may be a broadcom or an atheros, those are quite common	08:38
amateja	ActionParsnip: but I have this issues even on Kubuntu LiveCD and I think there is something no entirely right	08:39
ActionParsnip	Amateja: maybe there's a config you need in a conf file, or a package etc.	08:39
eycel	i pasted it to u	08:40
ActionParsnip	Eycel: use a pastebin in future please. Don't pm to spam me like that	08:40
eycel	pastebin?	08:40
ActionParsnip	Eycel: does: sudo iwlist scan ,find APs?	08:40
ActionParsnip	!paste \| eycel	08:41
ubottu	eycel: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.	08:41
amateja	ActionParsnip: there's only description of installing Ubuntu 5.10, well it's rather too old :)	08:41
psycho_oreos	poent, I'd check to see if there's any interfaces that has wireless extensions if not, the ndis driver maybe missing firmware	08:41
amateja	ActionParsnip: i think my issue will remain unresolved	08:42
gheddy_zarc	massive lag can I get a ping pls	08:42
eycel	it brings up interface with like 10 different words	08:42
amateja	ActionParsnip: thanks anyway	08:42
ActionParsnip	Amateja: true but it may still work. Just backup any files you edit etc so you can roll back	08:42
ActionParsnip	Amateja: just because you think its old doesn't mean it won't work	08:42
poent	psycho_oreos, i didnt see any that had wireless extensions. Only my onboard eth connections were showing up. If it is missing firmware how do I go about adding it or finding it?	08:43
ActionParsnip	Eycel: can you pastebin the output please	08:43
root	hey	08:43
ActionParsnip	!hi \| root	08:43
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psycho_oreos	poent, usually if its in the case of ndis, it would be the accompanying .sys file is missing or invalid for the driver	08:43
ubottu	root: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!	08:43
ActionParsnip	Thanks psycho_	08:44
psycho_oreos	poent, though I'd much prefer you to tell me what is the lspci -nnk or lsusb output into pastebin so maybe I can assist you better	08:44
psycho_oreos	ActionParsnip, :o np	08:44
madsen	this 10.04 is greeeat	08:45
eycel	k gimie sec	08:45
psycho_oreos	!lucid \| madsen	08:45
ubottu	madsen: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule	08:45
eycel	do i need to signup to launchpad oe something?	08:45
amateja	ActionParsnip: what if i'd like to have system more up to date? issue can show up again after update	08:45
ActionParsnip	Amateja: possibly, you can say that about any config though	08:46
eycel	ok here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/399172/plain/	08:47
poent	psycho_oreos, Here you go. http://pastebin.org/119757	08:47
madsen	haha ubottu	08:47
madsen	alrite	08:47
psycho_oreos	poent, seems like a better option for you is to use wl	08:48
psycho_oreos	poent, less hassles	08:48
ActionParsnip	Eycel: you get that from: sudo iwlist scan	08:48
ActionParsnip	Eycel: is that right?	08:49
eycel	hmm	08:49
eycel	gimie min	08:49
eycel	il do it again	08:49
ActionParsnip	Cool	08:49
poent	psycho_oreos, I'm not familiar enough with ubuntu to know what you mean. wl means wireless Lan right?	08:50
psycho_oreos	poent, no no, in this case the wl is the proprietary driver by broadcom for your broadcom wireless device	08:50
psycho_oreos	!broadcom \| poent	08:51
ubottu	poent: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx	08:51
eycel	ok here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/399174/	08:52
psycho_oreos	poent, you need to follow this precisely: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Installing%20b43/STA%20hybrib%20drivers	08:52
poent	psycho_oreos, alrighty thanks. I'll give it a try	08:52
igoryonya	is /etc like "Program files" in windows and /home, like "Documents and Settings" ?	08:52
eycel	here it is action http://paste.ubuntu.com/399174/	08:52
poent	psycho_oreos, Do you think i should attempt to remove ndiswrapper and any other driver leftovers before starting this? or should it not matter?	08:53
psycho_oreos	igoryonya, not exactly, but on the point of /home is somewhat	08:53
ActionParsnip	Thanks, stupid connection reset	08:53
psycho_oreos	poent, probably good idea to blacklist it, if not familiar with blacklisting, then I'd remove ndiswrapper	08:53
igoryonya	what is like windows in Windows?	08:53
ActionParsnip	Eycel: great, its picking up APs so its working :)	08:53
psycho_oreos	igoryonya, / generally	08:53
poent	will do, thanks again	08:53
psycho_oreos	poent, np	08:54
ActionParsnip	Eycel: if you use the network tool in the top right you can connect to your network etc	08:54
eycel	iv had it working before, but the last time i attempted it it wouldnt connect	08:54
igoryonya	I am trying to figure out what is the purpose of each folder in Linux.	08:54
ActionParsnip	Igoryonya: in windows, windows is like windows	08:54
llutz	!fhs > igoryonya	08:54
ubottu	igoryonya, please see my private message	08:54
eycel	im not sure if its my network or what	08:55
eycel	but it just wont connect	08:55
ActionParsnip	Igoryonya: I wouldn't worry too much, just get a flavour. It not overly important tbh	08:55
lyt	+i	08:55
ActionParsnip	Eycel: network manager will get you connected, its part of a standard install	08:55
lyt	+i	08:56
rednammoc	hi guys. how to determine, which users has been logged in to my machine during my absence ?	08:56
llutz	rednammoc: last	08:56
rednammoc	llutz: thx :)	08:56
igoryonya	ActionParsnip: From my experience, of working on coputers, you figure out the file/folder structure, you figure out the computer. Everything else is the matter of logic.	08:56
llutz	igoryonya: if you know about the folder-layout, lots of things are easier to understand (permissions etc)	08:57
igoryonya	llutz: that's exactly, what I am saying.	08:58
llutz	igoryonya: it's just hard to learn, since it's completly different from DOS/Win	08:58
psycho_oreos	though it shares similar base with other *nixes	08:59
Fudge	hi, i have some questions about gparted and general partitioning. How come I have two lots of unpartitioned space and cant join them together? is it correct for my extended partition to be a partitio nlike sda2 and then fo rthe logical drive using all of that extended partition to be sda5? Last, I read that ufs and other filesystems can be created in ubuntu gparted but I do not know how to access, right clicking some free space only allows	08:59
igoryonya	llutz: yes, @ least I've found where my "documents and settings"-like and where all of the "drive-letters"-like are :). /home and /mount	09:00
igoryonya	llutz: that's to start with.	09:00
eycel	any one get wireless to work on ubunto live cd?	09:00
psycho_oreos	eycel, not that I've tried via livecd but I'd imagine its similar to a real install except settings will be lost on reboot	09:01
babalu	hi, is there a way to check the battery status in command line?	09:01
babalu	and is there a way to get the computer to sleep when we are without server X? or is that a server X feature?	09:01
eycel	for the life of me it wont connect	09:01
eycel	...	09:01
eycel	it shows all my network stuff	09:01
leagris	Fudge, yes this is all correct. Though if you use no more than 4 partition on a disk you may create only primary type partitions. this save some little space and they will be named sdx1 - sdx4 only	09:01
eycel	just wont connect	09:01
psycho_oreos	igoryonya, drive-letters are partial under /mount.. there's also /dev/{h,s}dX	09:01
LinuxGuy2009	Is there any way to export the radiance and ambience themes from Lucid thats installed on my netbook to put onto 9.04 installation on my desktop or is there a tar.gz of theme somewhere I can download?	09:01
eycel	it always comes up disconnect	09:01
igoryonya	eycel: for me it worked out of the box. My liveCD was 8.10 64bit version, the Cisco WiFi card	09:02
psycho_oreos	eycel, can you please pastebin your lspci -nnk output or lsusb output into pastebin?	09:02
eycel	whats command sudo lspci -nnk?	09:02
Fudge	leagris thanks, ok so logicals are sda5-, how about the other filesystems to create?	09:02
psycho_oreos	eycel, well sudo I don't think is needed but yeah, you'll need to execute that in terminal	09:02
jsoft	Anyone used the Lenovo S10 IdeaPad's ?	09:02
leagris	babalu, look at the acpi tools	09:03
babalu	leagris: thanks	09:03
abhi_nav	hi	09:03
igoryonya	psycho_oreos: /dev/{h,s}dX have unmounted partitions, right?	09:03
psycho_oreos	igoryonya, fyi if you google "linux filesystem" you'll find a fair few basic info about the differences between windows and linux filesystem structures	09:04
llutz	igoryonya: that are the device-nodes representing your drives	09:04
darolu	!fhs \| igoryonya	09:04
ubottu	igoryonya: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview see also: man hier	09:04
eycel	http://paste.ubuntu.com/399179/	09:04
psycho_oreos	igoryonya, they're mainly block/raw devices, some may be mounted, some may not be mounted, one or few maybe related to root fs and others are generally unattached block devices	09:04
leagris	babalu, cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/info ...	09:05
eycel	although wireless here has been some what shooty	09:05
eycel	....	09:05
psycho_oreos	eycel, "lspci -nnk" (without quotes)	09:05
zbrahead91-dedi	Anyone here know how to make the git kernel source into a PPA source package?	09:06
eycel	http://paste.ubuntu.com/399180/	09:06
meowbuntu	would anyone know an easy way to boot multipul os from a usb. say puppylinux, ubuntu, etc.	09:07
babalu	leagris: which line should i look at?	09:07
igoryonya	psycho_oreos: I've found a linux filesystem howto on the net, it's just about 100 pages long, I started reading, it. It just will take a while before I finish reading it. I was just running ahead, asking questions here, because I wanted to know the most needed directories for me, so, I already clicked on the link, presented by ubottu to see what it says.	09:08
psycho_oreos	eycel, I gather this is USB wireless device?	09:08
eycel	yes wireless n belkin	09:08
eycel	on an alienware laptop	09:08
psycho_oreos	eycel, ahh belkin, it'll go back to the first pastebin, gotcha.. now I'm going to search	09:09
ranjan	hello every body today i installed electric sheep on ubuntu 9.10 and also i have managed an copy of sheep from my friend .. so can any body can tell me in which folder should i Place this ship so that it can work normally .. thanks in advance	09:09
eycel	heh iv searched	09:09
eycel	...	09:09
leagris	babalu, better at /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state	09:09
eycel	wiresles netowrk disconnect every time	09:09
babalu	leagris: ok thanks	09:09
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eycel	it could be a number of things, my networks wireless just isnt worth a shit, 9.10 ubunto, cause iv goton it working wiht ealier versions, or something else	09:10
psycho_oreos	eycel, and your interface is wlan0?	09:10
eycel	i think leme check	09:11
eycel	im pritty sure	09:11
eycel	it picks up	09:11
eycel	like neibors	09:11
prokops	hello	09:11
psycho_oreos	eycel, one of the potential issue is that your device is 802.11n capable, which the driver is a little immature under linux.. that's part of the issue, the other part is that ubuntu 9.10, due to the release is bound to a somewhat old kernel which limits if not inhibits the use of such device	09:11
eycel	signals and stuff	09:11
david_	hi	09:12
david_	i'm new there	09:12
eycel	im not using n though, g	09:12
eycel	...	09:12
eycel	and its worked before	09:12
eycel	...	09:12
eycel	so...	09:12
FloodBot2	eycel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	09:12
david_	and dont much speak engles	09:12
abhi_nav	david_ which is your language?	09:13
psycho_oreos	eycel, its not that, the chipset is 802.11n capable which the code is different from 802.11g base.. its pretty much a completely different chipset/driver	09:13
leagris	david_, check if there are #ubuntu-language channel for your native language	09:13
psycho_oreos	eycel, I suppose if and when it disconnects I'd check dmesg for reasons why	09:13
eycel	well it wont connect atal	09:13
eycel	...	09:14
eycel	but if it brings up singnals and everything, whats keeping it from connecting	09:14
meowbuntu	hi is there an easy way for me to boot multipul os from my usb drive.	09:14
psycho_oreos	eycel, hmm dmesg may show reasons why, it might be missing firmware	09:14
eycel	everything seems in order besides the conection	09:14
eycel	...	09:14
abhi_nav	meowbuntu: partition usb in more than one partition and then each partition keep different os using unetbootin	09:15
psycho_oreos	eycel, pastebin your dmesg output	09:15
leagris	meowbuntu, may be installing grub on the usb disk. You should search the web about that as it may require some understanding of grub bootloader	09:15
eycel	okis	09:15
llutz	meowbuntu: there is, i'm using a stick with 5 diffrent live-os on it. just let me search a hwoto	09:16
eycel	it just brongs up some temperature stuff http://paste.ubuntu.com/399184/	09:16
SSShvb	Hello all does some one can help to install Maya 2010?	09:16
sharetel	Hi, is it possible to share a USB printer as a network printer via CUPS?	09:17
leagris	a shame there is no PXE boot with wireless. I would have enhoyed providing free live ubuntu over the air to my neighbours :)	09:17
psycho_oreos	eycel, doesn't seem like the complete output of dmesg or it seems like all the previous info has been overwritten by these temperature marks	09:17
meowbuntu	leagris, yea i know about grub not much about grub 2 though.	09:18
meowbuntu	abhi_nav, if i do that then windozzy cant read all the partitions thats not a good idea.	09:19
david_	i retire	09:19
david_	glad to meet we	09:19
llutz	meowbuntu: blog.p-mt.net/archives/644 german but important parts should be clear	09:20
abhi_nav	meowbuntu: take that windows thing and take one cup water and dispose in it :-(	09:20
meowbuntu	fanks llutz	09:20
meowbuntu	arg not german	09:20
eycel	goes requestiong lalalala then disconnect	09:20
eycel	lol	09:20
abhi_nav	mwowbuntu: you mean thans llutz?	09:20
abhi_nav	mwowbuntu: you mean thanx llutz?	09:20
eycel	i disconnected	09:21
meowbuntu	llutz, thats not a website is it	09:21
abhi_nav	eycel: no you are here	09:21
eycel	whats supose to me in the dmesg	09:21
eycel	?	09:21
Duke_	Hey guys anyone know where I can find a driver for my Wireless PCI adaptor? NetGear WG311 - I have a Windows CD with drivers if that helps.	09:21
llutz	meowbuntu: http://blog.p-mt.net/archives/644	09:22
psycho_oreos	Duke_, is the device plugged in?	09:22
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meowbuntu	ah thanks	09:22
psycho_oreos	eycel, hmm can you pastebin your lsmod output?	09:22
meowbuntu	6 llutz	09:22
eycel	k	09:22
eycel	http://paste.ubuntu.com/399185/	09:23
* Pillowtester is away: busy sleeping		09:23
Duke_	psycho_oreos, yes, it is one of those ones that goes inside my computer case. Plugged directly into one of the PCI slots on my motherboard.	09:23
meowbuntu	llutz, one thing can i use other os not mentioned on the site	09:24
eycel	i dont get it belkin is very universal its in every store imaginable,	09:24
aprilhare	actionparsnip: there is a partition /dev/sda3 mentioned by sudo blkid but not by fstab. add it to fstab?	09:24
psycho_oreos	Duke_, I know how it gets connected/plugged in.. I'm saying is the device actually inside or not.. so if it is pastebin your lspci -nnk output	09:24
llutz	meowbuntu: you can, just look how they use grub to start the iso	09:24
aprilhare	erm	09:25
llutz	meowbuntu: may not work with all, but it's worth to try	09:25
meowbuntu	llutz, ok so basically after i have the download i just copy it to my flash drive right	09:26
psycho_oreos	eycel, the problem is that its not the product name that's the issue, its the vendor in which this case yours is Ralink RT2870 or Ralink being a little picky because linux, unlike windows mainly requires 3rd party devs to create drivers for it or otherwise you have to use vendor driver which can be rare depending on which vendor its actually from	09:26
meowbuntu	and edit it as written in the script	09:26
meowbuntu	^ llutz	09:26
llutz	meowbuntu: read the site, look at the shown grub.cfg. it has to be edited to your needs	09:26
Duke_	sorry psycho_oreos. Just trying to explain that it's not one of those laptop ones. http://paste.ubuntu.com/399187/	09:26
meowbuntu	llutz, i cant understand german	09:27
llutz	meowbuntu: i haven't used his script, just used the grub55.cfg as example	09:27
meowbuntu	o i c	09:27
psycho_oreos	Duke_, those are more like pcmcia/cardbus	09:27
eycel	but if thats the case why is it even idetifiying itself	09:27
eycel	wouldnt it just not work atal	09:27
psycho_oreos	Duke_, I meant "lspci -nnk" (without quotes)	09:27
meowbuntu	i remember from grub how to edit that but grub 2 is totally different	09:28
david_	who can desinstal a program on ubuntu?	09:28
psycho_oreos	eycel, its identified itself is partially because there is an entry in the pci:id database and the other is that there is a driver in which recognises the pci:id and hence was loaded.. but those are part of the complete picture	09:28
meowbuntu	llutz, do i just copy the file to my usb. ?????	09:28
psycho_oreos	david_, depends on how its installed	09:29
llutz	meowbuntu: the green lines at start prepare your usb-stick with grub2	09:29
llutz	meowbuntu: that part is important	09:29
eycel	its usb not pci	09:29
Duke_	psycho_oreos There we go, http://paste.ubuntu.com/399190/	09:29
eycel	but i understand	09:29
llutz	meowbuntu: further down, just before the grub-screens being shown, there is a link to "grub055.cfg", download it	09:30
meowbuntu	llutz, i dont know if its that foward s i confused by german	09:30
david_	psycho and where the find?	09:30
eycel	so can i like download something	09:30
eycel	...	09:30
psycho_oreos	eycel, yes there'd be a database for all that.. hence that's why you get Belkin Components from that lsusb output as opposed to the bare 050d:815c	09:30
meowbuntu	already did its actually near the top of page in english	09:30
meowbuntu	^ llutz	09:31
psycho_oreos	eycel, hmm right now the best idea is to try and reload the driver, because your dmesg is all overwritten with temperature stuff which is kinda useless	09:31
eycel	ok il brb	09:31
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psycho_oreos	Duke_, eww marvell wireless.. umm you'll need your driver disc for starters and ndiswrapper	09:32
llutz	meowbuntu: try the srcipt, maybe it works	09:32
meowbuntu	llutz, is that not grub 1.9.7. if i install as he says it will put frub 2 on my flshdrive now	09:32
david_	psycho_oreos i install from terminal	09:32
llutz	meowbuntu: grub2 == grub-1.9x	09:32
meowbuntu	different grub version. grub 2 is different than grub 1	09:33
meowbuntu	o i c	09:33
psycho_oreos	david_, would help if you could tell me what command you used	09:33
llutz	grub1 == grub0.9.x	09:33
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david_	psycho_oreos : sudo aptitude install	09:34
meowbuntu	llutz, y do i need to download grub 2 again ubuntu already has it installed.	09:34
llutz	meowbuntu: nope	09:34
psycho_oreos	david_, then I'd use sudo aptitude remove	09:34
david_	woow thank you so much	09:35
meowbuntu	llutz, then how do i st up grub 2 on usb	09:35
meowbuntu	if i follow his instructions it will install grub on my os again	09:35
psycho_oreos	david_, np	09:35
llutz	meowbuntu: then you have to alter his script or do it manually	09:35
meowbuntu	llutz how do i get it on my usb	09:36
meowbuntu	download it right	09:36
llutz	meowbuntu: whats your usb-device?	09:36
david_	psycho_oreos: What is np?	09:37
meowbuntu	20gug usb hdd	09:37
psycho_oreos	david_, no problems	09:37
llutz	meowbuntu: /dev/sdXY <-	09:37
meowbuntu	llutz, http://www.newsmy.com/en/products_show.asp?ArticleID=395	09:38
llutz	meowbuntu: /dev/sdXY <-? device not brand/type	09:38
david_	woow	09:38
meowbuntu	^^ <meowbuntu> 20gug usb hdd	09:38
llutz	meowbuntu: what /dev/sdXY your usb-device? /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc	09:39
meowbuntu	^ llutz	09:39
llutz	or whatever	09:39
meowbuntu	ah sorry missed that	09:39
meowbuntu	hold on	09:39
meowbuntu	arg whats the terminal command	09:39
miraculix	meowbuntu: try "fdisk -l" to list	09:39
llutz	sudo fdisk -l	09:39
llutz	meowbuntu: this howto uses an usb-thumb, so it asumes only 1 vfat-partition on the device	09:40
meowbuntu	llutz, fdisk -l blank	09:41
llutz	meowbuntu: sudo fdisk -l	09:41
xsacha	j #andromnia	09:42
meowbuntu	llutz, i will only use 1 partition on my 20gig	09:42
meowbuntu	llutz, /dev/sdb1	09:43
meowbuntu	llutz, hold on need to format	09:43
llutz	meowbuntu: so it has to be vfat	09:43
bullgard	/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.31/drivers/platform/x86/thinkpad_acpi.c is headlined: "thinkpad_acpi.c - ThinkPad ACPI Extras". What does 'Extras' mean here?	09:44
seb_	léa?	09:44
llutz	meowbuntu: sudo mkfs.vfat -n MultiUSB /dev/sdb1	09:44
llutz	meowbuntu: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt	09:44
meowbuntu	llutz, slow down i am gparted format hdd	09:45
maveas	Are you guys aware of a stable proxy in UK?	09:46
meowbuntu	llutz, is vfat fat 32 or fat 16	09:46
root	hi	09:47
llutz	meowbuntu: fat32 ; after mounting: sudo grub-install --no-floppy --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb	09:47
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Guest30984	hi	09:47
meowbuntu	that installs grub from where	09:47
meowbuntu	^ llutz	09:47
llutz	meowbuntu: installs grub2 on the usb-device	09:48
meowbuntu	llutz, can i pm you	09:48
eycel	its the same thing	09:49
eycel	...	09:49
ori	how do i toggle my screensaver?	09:49
xiong	ori, Toggle how?	09:49
ori	xiong: someone once told me of a keyboard shortcut that disables the screen saver	09:50
xiong	ori, Can you find 'Screensaver Preferences'?	09:50
xiong	Ah. Hotkey I don't know, sorry.	09:50
ori	xiong: yeah, but i want to disable it often, so a shortcut would save time	09:50
xiong	I notice that hotcorner support has been dropped, BTW. Anybody know why?	09:50
eycel	pew pew	09:51
meowbuntu	hi i am trying to install grub to my 20gig usb hdd. i get this error. grub-setup: warn: Your embedding area is unusually small. core.img won't fit in it.	09:53
meowbuntu	what can i do	09:53
xiong	meowbuntu, That is not much space for any sort of full install but it seems pretty large for a thumb drive.	09:54
xiong	Not huge but big enough.	09:54
meowbuntu	xiong, ist not vor a full install	09:54
Duke_	psycho_oreos - I have the Windows driver disc and ndiswrapper.	09:55
meowbuntu	its for a multiboot iso i need to copy grub to my usb hdd	09:55
meowbuntu	^ xiong,	09:55
melvster	hi all i have two ubuntu boxes, one running on my desktop one in the cloud in EC2, i can easily talk from my desktop to my server (e.g. with SSH), but im unsure the best way to send a command from my server to my desktop, is it possible?	09:55
meowbuntu	xiong, i'm folling this http://blog.p-mt.net/archives/644	09:56
psycho_oreos	eycel, lol I meant you need to pastebin me your dmesg output before it gets all overwritten with temperature stuff, which version are you using?	09:57
psycho_oreos	Duke_, just to be sure, you said you're using wg311 but you have one of those laptop cards.. so effectively its actually wg511v2?	09:57
xiong	Sorry, meowbuntu, I don't read that language. But I smell an issue here if you are trying to install all those OSs on one stick.	09:58
Duke_	psycho_oreos - it's not a laptop card, I have a desktop. It says WG311 on the box that the card came in.	09:58
psycho_oreos	Duke_, ahh	09:58
meowbuntu	xim_, y is that	10:00
meowbuntu	^ xiong	10:00
psycho_oreos	Duke_, with driver disc available I'd follow step 3 of the guide (you just simply need to navigate into the same path for the inf file from your driver disc): http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/marvell-88w8335-chipset-netgear-wg311-pcicard-driver/	10:00
meowbuntu	xiong, there in no problems in doing it heaps of people do it	10:01
* psycho_oreos thinks its not related to ubuntu for that matter		10:01
xiong	Yikes! FF crashed.	10:01
* xiong gets busy awhile		10:01
meowbuntu	xiong, also i dont read german either	10:01
Doroff	helli	10:02
Doroff	hello	10:02
Doroff	anybody here?	10:02
psycho_oreos	!hi \| Doroff	10:02
ubottu	Doroff: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!	10:02
Doroff	psycho_oreos Hi!	10:02
psycho_oreos	meowbuntu, its offtopic but I'll give you a hint: grub4dos	10:03
psycho_oreos	I've done it before	10:03
Doroff	psycho_oreos man, do you know that does the ubuntu work at Atom processors?	10:03
psycho_oreos	Doroff, well ubuntu normally does, but if you're looking for lean versions I'd suggest ubuntu netbook remix	10:03
Duke_	psycho_oreos is my CD drive going to be /media/cdrom/ or /media/cdrom0/? they both look the same	10:04
Arabus	Duke_: normally one of them is a symbolic link to the other anyway	10:05
Doroff	I have motherboard motherboard 45cs	10:05
matt_mac	not sure if it's appropriate to ask development questions here	10:05
matt_mac	I'm writing a Ubuntu app and I need to spawn a new process	10:05
psycho_oreos	Duke_, it'll be either one that will suffice, I think /media/cdrom/ is just a symbolic link to /media/cdrom0	10:05
matt_mac	I'm using system() but it doesn't seem to take my command-line args	10:05
Doroff	and Atom processor on it.	10:05
matt_mac	wondering if I should be using some other API	10:05
psycho_oreos	Doroff, like I said, if you want a lean ubuntu version I'd suggest ubuntu netbook remix	10:06
ror	network manager has started asking for authentication (password) on boot, it never used to. What's changed and can I fix this? to.	10:06
Doroff	psycho_oreos I need ubuntu for i-net cafe )	10:06
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Arabus	Duke_: You can find out if you type "ls -l /media/" in the command line. normally it should show something like this: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Feb 24 2009 cdrom -> cdrom0	10:07
psycho_oreos	Doroff, ahh that I wouldn't know	10:07
miraculix	ror: did you change any autostart settings?	10:08
matt_mac	ah nm... I guess I need to quote the whole command string	10:09
ror	no, it always auto-started before, it just never needed my password for keyring access before	10:09
Doroff	psycho_oreos )) i have a program for it, some good people make zedcafe (linux with that program - http://linux.blogs.ie/downloads/). But this Linux don't install for my PC. : (( I won't to try netbook fersion. When I can download them?	10:09
zorge	Time to try find information about tweaking for SSD's (if still necessary, unless somehow 9.10 detects and adapts accordingly)	10:10
Duke_	psycho_oreos I only had one .inf file in the entire CD, and it was autorun.inf. So I tried that, and it didn't work - http://paste.ubuntu.com/399206/. Should I use the instructions on the website to download the driver off the internet?	10:11
miraculix	ror: check your startup-applications and see if gnome-keyring-daemon is still there.	10:11
devdz	how i access to the boot loader of windows?	10:11
ror	miraculix, it's there	10:11
psycho_oreos	Doroff, this seems like a bootable disc with its own OS on its own, its not really part of ubuntu and shouldn't be asked in here for support	10:11
psycho_oreos	Duke_, hmm I'd give that a try, but don't hold my breath on it, someone had issues with the drivers after following that guide	10:12
zorge	accessing boot loader depends on the motherboard doesn't it?	10:12
zorge	or am I thinking about the wrong thing	10:12
kaolbrec	Doroff, zencafe is slackware based. You might have better luck in ##slackware	10:13
psycho_oreos	boot loader is usually stored in the mbr and usually on the hard disk or SSD in your case	10:13
Doroff	kaolbrec thanks	10:14
zorge	perhaps I read the question wrong, and was thinking of just getting the actual menu to show up	10:14
miraculix	ror: sounds indeed strange. I'll look into it, I had a similar problem a while back.	10:14
psycho_oreos	zorge, which version of ubuntu?	10:14
zorge	I am currently running 9.10 since its not beta	10:14
ror	should I just add nm-applet to my sudo list?	10:15
zorge	Haven't found any solid info on SSD tweaks yet	10:15
psycho_oreos	zorge, hmm I wouldn't know how to access the grub 2.0 menu.. on grub 1 it is Esc button that would trigger boot menu but you can check !grub2	10:15
miraculix	ror: I wouldn't recommend that for security reasons, since it should work normally in userspace with the keyring	10:16
ror	miraculix: ok; I'll try at some time restarting nm-applet to see if it asks every time or perhaps it's launching before the keyring the first time?	10:17
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miraculix	ror: do you have a different password for your keyring than your user account?	10:18
igoryonya	Here is what I've rufly found from linux directory structure description: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/399212/	10:23
igoryonya	Linux <-> DOS/Windows directory "equivalents"	10:23
ror	miraculix, no, same password	10:26
Sensiva	igoryonya /dev isn't correct, /dev doesn't contain any drivers its something like Device Manager in Windows, drivers in Linux are in the kernel boot files	10:27
igoryonya	Sensiva: so, drivers are in /boot?	10:28
Sensiva	igoryonya its embbeded in vmlinuz and initrd.gz which are located in /boot	10:28
fnord	heya	10:29
fnord	i have a strange bug with my ubuntu 9.10 ... it does not accept router advertisements but a link local ipv6 address is assigned to the interface	10:29
autopsy	Do you guys know which python library will be able to be used to create kickstart files? I need to write something in Python to do this.	10:30
sudo-su	help	10:30
sudo-su	nautilus give me this:	10:31
sudo-su	(nautilus:4182): Eel-CRITICAL **: eel_preferences_get_boolean: assertion `preferences_is_initialized ()' failed	10:31
autopsy	sudo-su create a new user and try with that, if it works you have some home directory issues.	10:31
sudo-su	autopsy: ok, thank	10:32
=== Mowiiii`Aw is now known as Mowee
dyek	Hi! I want to run a gdm/X desktop session on an Ubuntu machine and have it always displayed to a X server (say VT-9) running on another machine (both machines on a secure/virtual network.) What is the best configuration for this to work?	10:33
Mowee	Hi :o	10:33
Doroff	so more nuances...	10:34
Doroff	aghrrrr	10:34
martron	hi	10:34
Doroff	))	10:35
sudo-su	hi everibody	10:35
Doroff	hi	10:35
sudo-su	have problem with my session	10:35
sudo-su	only have got a terminal	10:35
martron	wondering why no proprietary drivers show up to use in hardware drivers	10:35
sudo-su	help	10:36
Rossonero	sudo-su, startx ?	10:36
sudo-su	mm	10:36
sudo-su	i cant start sesion from gms (gms?)	10:37
sudo-su	gsm	10:37
sudo-su	i dont now exactly	10:37
Rossonero	you mean gdm ?	10:37
sudo-su	yeah	10:37
sudo-su	this	10:37
Rossonero	what is the error message after typing : "gdm"	10:37
sudo-su	nothin	10:38
zorge	brb checking motherboard options	10:38
sudo-su	nothing only have a terminal	10:38
ct529	hi there!	10:38
Rossonero	sudo-su, have you log in the terminal ?	10:38
sudo-su	but this terminal is whith a wallpaper	10:38
sudo-su	only this	10:38
martron	wtf i didn't wuit	10:39
sudo-su	Rossonero: yes	10:39
sudo-su	pablo : $	10:39
ct529	I would like to link a process to a specific core of my cpu, so that I can then set the frequency of that core to the maximum. That would allwo me to keep the other processes on the other core, and keep the other core at low frequency. Any clue about how to do it?	10:39
sudo-su	martron: sorry, i mean "with"	10:39
Rossonero	sudo-su, are you using ubuntu server ?	10:39
* Jaimie waves		10:40
sudo-su	Rossonero: no..ubuntu desktop	10:40
sudo-su	but first i cant run nautilus	10:40
sudo-su	after cant start session	10:40
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tarzeau	any lemmings fans in here?	10:46
lorenzosu	tarzeau, are you talking about the game?	10:47
tarzeau	lorenzosu: yes, there's a clone: http://lplusplus.co.cc/about.php which is pretty cool (8 player network version)	10:47
=== ndlovu_ is now known as ndlovu
Rossonero	I am using ubuntu hardy.. my msn account doesnt work what's happen with this protocol ?	10:48
veleno	hello. i generate my private RSA key with "openssl genrsa -out private_key.pem 1024". The output is not in hexadecimal format..is there an easy way to do so ?	10:48
lorenzosu	tarzeau, cool	10:48
Rossonero	did Microshit stopped the support of this protocol from other OS ?	10:48
dyek	Hi! I want to run a gdm/X desktop session on a "remote" machine and have it always displayed to a X server (say VT-9) running on a "local" machine (both machines on a secure/virtual network.) What is the best configuration for this to work? How do I use gdmsetup on the remote and local machines to set this up? Can I do it without involving chooser?	10:51
wajs	hi! anyone know how to disable password after computer has been suspended in karmic? I removed everything in gconf-editor -> apps -> gnome-power-manager -> lock , but it still does ask for password after suspend	10:53
setuid	I've installed Ubuntu from the "alternate" CD, and it looks like it didn't install anything at all. It booted to a commandline login, and dpkg -l shows 351 packages installed. How do I go about installing everything? (development tools, printing tools, desktop, etc.)	10:53
setuid	wajs, configure gdm to stop prompting for the password	10:53
ct529	dyek: can you use an ssh tunnel with xserver active? something like ssh -CY (so you also have compression)?	10:54
Arabus	setuid: You might want to try one of the desktop suites like gnome, kde or xfce	10:55
setuid	Arabus, Right, but what package do I install to get everything? And what about the development tools/libraries/headers/etc.?	10:56
theadmin	setuid: try: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop	10:56
dyek	ct529: ssh tunnel would be fine, but I don't need ssh tunnel, because the network is a virtual bridge. I am trying to figure out the rest of the logistic.	10:57
setuid	theadmin, Ok, that adds 942 additional packages... I wonder why the alternate CD didn't actually install any of this	10:57
ct529	dyek: so you want to have the desktop automatically set to the remote machine when you login?	10:58
Lord-Readman	Before I ask, this is not termed deframent my ubuntu... but rather data consolidation... Is there atool that lets you pick which directorys sit at the beginning of the disk? i.e. if I want /boot/ at the beginning (the fast sectors) is there atool? or should I just use parted to make 0-100MB /boot/ and have it as partition1 ?	10:58
theadmin	Lord-Readman: Yes, it's a good idea to get /boot to a separate partition for such purposes	10:59
Lord-Readman	but is there a tool for if I want /home/downloads/ on a faster part of the disk than say /home/documents/	11:00
ddavids	hello all, pls i cant view videos frm youtube anymore frm my mozilla build of firefox, any clues pls?	11:00
setuid	Lord-Readman, That's what I do	11:00
setuid	Lord-Readman, Though, I put swap at the front	11:00
dyek	ct529: Yes (I think.) Basically, instead of using VNC, etc. I want the remote client machine to display to a real X server at a VT.	11:00
erUSUL	Lord-Readman: use readahead profiling http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254263 http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Readahead	11:00
Lord-Readman	I was going to put swap at the front but having 5GB in use at the beginning seamed a waste	11:00
* albondie is away: I'm busy		11:01
ct529	Lord-Readman: sounds a good idea to have tha swap on the central cilinders if you do a lot of swapping. If you do not, then it is a bit of a waste. Depends on your use.	11:01
ct529	Lord-Readman: and on disk performance as well ....	11:01
setuid	Lord-Readman, The files/data space you use the most, should be at the center of the spindle... swap is probably best. /boot is only ever used once, at machine startup... dont' put boot there.	11:02
Lord-Readman	So an easy approach would be to have /boot/ at the begining then my main ext4 then swap ?	11:02
llutz	if one does a lot of swapping, he should consider buying more RAM not to move swap-partition	11:02
Lord-Readman	my swap is never used	11:02
dyek	ct529: Maybe something like: "/usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 -nolisten tcp vt9" will work as the local machine configuration, but I suppose that should be managed by gdm?	11:02
setuid	Lord-Readman, If you're looking for disk performance, look into hdparm/sdparm, and disable journaling (or use XFS, it screams!)	11:02
lightpriest_	Anyone found why update-grub segfaults when boot is on an LVM partition?	11:02
setuid	Lord-Readman, Linux _runs_ from swap	11:02
Lord-Readman	boot time is too fast to bother hybernating	11:02
llutz	setuid: b....it	11:03
theadmin	setuid: lolwut? I have no swap	11:03
setuid	Lord-Readman, Because closing/re-opening apps sucks	11:03
setuid	theadmin, That's stupid... I can easily bring a machine down when it's configured wihtout swap. I've completely hung a machine with 8gb ram, 4 core, because it had no swap.	11:03
setuid	just do a 'make -j' for gcc, and watch it die	11:03
theadmin	setuid: "-j"?	11:04
setuid	You NEED swap, at least 1 page, to allow the machine to page ram and age it to disk	11:04
setuid	Without it, you can easily cause a machine to crash/lock, 100% reproducible.	11:04
theadmin	setuid: :(){ :\|: &};: ?	11:04
llutz	theadmin: stop that!	11:04
theadmin	llutz: Sorry	11:04
red	isn't -j2 the amount of processes to use for compiling?	11:05
red	good to set to your processor core amount?	11:05
theadmin	llutz: Only meant to say that any machine can be frozen... with a simple forkbomb	11:05
setuid	jobs, not processes	11:05
red	yeah, sorry	11:05
setuid	theadmin, I'm not talking about fork bombs, I'm talking about consuming all the resources, causing the machine to stop. With swap, this doesn't happen.	11:05
meowbuntu	llutz, do you hve a puppylinux grub loader for the usb boot we talking about before	11:05
red	tho I've noticed when compiling programs like xbmc with kazillion files, using a lot of jobs makes it faster since compiling isn't processorheavy	11:06
llutz	meowbuntu: needs some extra things, i have it at home. i can show you later this afternoon if you like	11:06
wortheld	via_rhine module has an already filed but quite old resume bug. I just don't know if I should add to the old and incomplete report, contact module maintainer or what else to do in order to have it fixed.	11:06
theadmin	setuid: I never used out all my resources, everything works. And i'm not gonna repartition now because you tell me... stuff	11:06
Peanut	Hi - I've got a 9.10 machine that does DHCP, and NFS mounts /home. This works - but now that I changed the machine to a fixed IP, it doesn't complete booting, complaining that it cannot mount /home. The IP address hasn't changed. Sometimes the boot still does complete, which is even stranger.. any suggestions?	11:07
Peanut	And now it dropped me into the maintenance shell	11:07
red	nfs is lovely	11:07
theadmin	Peanut: fsck that /home part	11:07
llutz	theadmin: if you really need swap, just create a swap-file. no need to waste a partition-entry if you donot use hibernation	11:07
red	dont mount it on boot via fstab	11:07
setuid	theadmin, Your nick doesn't bely your understanding of Linux or these technologies. Use whatever works, just realize it's a dead end, and you're wrong.	11:07
setuid	Look it up.	11:07
Peanut	theadmin: /home is on NFS, can't fsck that.	11:07
Peanut	red: how can I then get it automatically mounted if it isn't in fstab?	11:08
theadmin	setuid: I don't say i'm right. I know i need swap. Just i have a ridiculously small hard drive and have to keep Windows AND Linux on it	11:08
red	there was an app for that	11:08
red	argh, whats the name	11:08
ddavids	pls i cant view videos frm youtube anymore frm my mozilla build of firefox, any clues pls?	11:08
red	been ages since i last used nfs, reverted to samba for less problems	11:08
setuid	theadmin, Sparing 512M for swap wouldn't kill you	11:08
setuid	theadmin, But it can certainly save you if you run out of resources	11:08
setuid	Even 256M or 128M would help considerably vs. 0 swap	11:09
perdita	#!haecksen	11:09
Peanut	red: there's not a windows machine anywhere near, would be a bit strange to start using Samba.	11:09
theadmin	setuid: Well, allright, i'll look into it after getting back to my Linux machine	11:09
miraculix	ddavids: you can try to reinstall the flashplugin.	11:09
wrinkliez	hey guys. is there a way i can get aptitude or apt-get to give a colored output?	11:09
red	Peanut: I don't have any windows machines myself either, tho a friend sometimes uses a Win 7 laptop at my place BUT.. if and when samba is in fstab, failing to mount has a timeout, so it's easier to setup on multiplec machines.	11:09
ddavids	how pls?	11:09
red	Peanut: then I just run a sudo mount -a if it didn't mount on boot	11:09
theadmin	ddavids: sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-installer	11:10
red	it also won't cause system hangups	11:10
Sensiva	ddavids https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash?action=show&redirect=Flash#Ubuntu%209.04%20%28Jaunty%20Jackalope%29%20and%209.10%20%28Karmic%20Koala%29	11:10
Peanut	red: err, this is a cluster with 16 machines, 128 cores - "type mount by hand" will probably not do as a solution :-)	11:10
Sensiva	whoops	11:10
Sensiva	!flash	11:10
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ubottu	To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	11:10
ddavids	thanks all	11:11
red	Peanut: aye, let me see if i can find the app i was talking about	11:11
gharz	guys, what application do i need to install if i want to access MS SQL Server for SQL administration? thanks!	11:12
kiaas	I have a large video I'd like to transfer in smaller pieces, any software that can automatically do that?	11:12
red	kiaas: zip it in parts	11:13
kiaas	red, I'd prefer to have the peices individually viewable	11:13
Peanut	kiaas: maybe you can use ffmpeg then to re-encode	11:13
gharz	guys, is there like a mysqladmin for MS SQL server?	11:13
Vroomfondle	gharz: Not that I know of.	11:14
red	kiaas: ah, then you have to just split it	11:14
ddavids	pls wht is the differenc btw auto lo: iface lo inet loopback and auto eth0: iface eth0 inet dhcp?	11:14
Vroomfondle	Accessing MSSQL directly from Linux is pretty painful	11:14
Vroomfondle	realistically your best option is to RDP to a Windows box (or use a VM) to run Management Studio	11:15
Peanut	ddavids: the lo interface is your loopback interface (127.0.0.1), the other entry specifies that your eth0 network interface will get its IP address via DHCP.	11:15
ddavids	im finding it difficult to connect to an internet modem today...but i have used same in the past on my karmic desktop system...	11:16
n8w	how do i enable menubar in dolphin?ive turned it off by mistake	11:16
Peanut	ddavids: could you give a more detailed problem description than "I find it difficult to connect today"? :-)	11:17
ddavids	Peanut: thanks, does that mean my modem wont connect cos it doesnt have similar values to the 127.0.0.1 interface?	11:17
Peanut	ddavids: no, this looks perfectly correct - that file is probably not the cause of your problems, especially if you didn't change anything in it.	11:17
ddavids	Peanut: but i cant seem to connect this modem cos its interface is 77.245.65.xxx	11:19
red	i seem to have lost my systray in panel	11:19
red	whats the app called?	11:19
red	i do havee the logout button and indicator applet with bluetooth volume etc visible	11:19
red	but not application icons like etherpad etc	11:19
red	dropbox*	11:19
Peanut	ddavids: is that the address of your network interface, or the address of your modem? Does your modem even have an address? Do you want to 'connect to the modem', or only connect through the modem to the internet?	11:19
ddavids	Peanut: i have been trying now but it just doenst connect...	11:19
dyek	Does X server query require chooser? "X -query <host-name> :2"	11:20
ddavids	Peanut: tht is the IP address when it does connect, i use it for my internet...	11:20
netshinE	hey all, i want to report bug on the sound manager program	11:21
netshinE	how can i do that with ubuntu-bug ?	11:21
netshinE	whats it the name of the package?	11:21
ddavids	Peanut: i wld like to connect thru the modem to the internet...	11:22
bullgard	/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.31/drivers/platform/x86/thinkpad_acpi.c is headlined: "thinkpad_acpi.c - ThinkPad ACPI Extras". What does 'Extras' mean here?	11:22
sine`	whats the linux version of the binary copy facilite on windows	11:22
sine`	cp /b *.mp3 > allthesongsinone.mp3	11:22
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Peanut	ddavids: Ok, and does it currently not get an IP address anymore, where this used to work in the past?	11:23
veleno	what is the encoding of the file output by openssl genrsa -out private_key.pem 1024 ? i've tried with a base64 decoder, but it doesn't seem to be the one	11:24
civpro	can someone help me get pastebinit working?	11:24
ddavids	Peanut: excatly	11:24
ddavids	it doesnt get IP anymore and thus says disconnected..	11:24
erUSUL	sine`: cat *.mp3 > allthesongsinone.mp3	11:25
sine`	ok thanks	11:25
Peanut	ddavids: does it work if you use another computer or OS? Is the problem limited to Ubuntu?	11:25
ddavids	Peanut: its the same probelm on windows too..	11:26
netshinE	whats the package name of sound preferences in ubuntu 9.10?	11:26
Peanut	ddavids: then it is not an Ubuntu problem, but a problem with your modem or ISP. Please talk to your ISP about this, it is very unlikely that we in #ubuntu can help you with this.	11:26
ddavids	Peanut: mosttimes, ubuntu is able to connect but wondows cant connect 98% of the time	11:26
civpro	anyone use pastebinit here?	11:26
civpro	been dealing with this for days	11:27
kanzie	m trying to member:grep multiple files in several subdirs using find ./ -name *.php \| member:grep 'myword'	11:27
ddavids	Peanut: thanks	11:27
markus2	netshine : ithink the one you want is pavumeter	11:27
kanzie	hahaha, what I meant to say is Im trying to grep for a word in several php-files in several subdirs	11:27
erUSUL	kanzie: grep -R word directory/	11:28
abhi_nav	hi	11:28
ct529	kanzie: even better grep -ir 'word' directory so you correct for lowercase/uppercase typos .... ;)	11:29
abhi_nav	hi	11:29
netshinE	markus2, friend tell me that gnome-media	11:29
erUSUL	kanzie: regarding the find sysntax... you just invented it; didn't you ;P ? ---> find ./ -name '*.php' -exec grep 'myword' {} \;	11:29
erUSUL	kanzie: regarding the find sysntax... you just invented it; didn't you ;P ? ---> find ./ -name '*.php' -exec grep 'myword' '{}' \;	11:29
Dr_Willis	usinf find and grep in the same command.. double points. :)	11:30
Dr_Willis	now add in xargs for a tripple	11:30
civpro	how do i install a deb file through ssh?	11:30
markus2	netshine: for what to you want to witdh it	11:30
Dr_Willis	I wonder if using find that way will handle files with spaces in the names	11:31
erUSUL	civpro: sudo dpkg -i *.deb	11:31
erUSUL	Dr_Willis: it does	11:31
civpro	ty	11:31
kanzie	erUSUL: haha, that is good yes but id doesnt give the name of the files where I have matches	11:31
kanzie	:-)	11:31
Dr_Willis	I alwyas make sure to not put spaces in filenames :)	11:31
Dr_Willis	Hmm.. theres a grep option for that I thought	11:31
erUSUL	kanzie: aothers and i have told you to use grep -R directly	11:32
kanzie	wouldn't work	11:32
kanzie	trying again then... hmmm	11:33
Dr_Willis	it works here kanzie	11:33
Dr_Willis	grep -R set /etc	11:33
Dr_Willis	for example	11:33
ARishi	Karmic used to connect to the internet out-of-the-box for me on my laptop but recently when I had reinstalled karmic and tried to connect it wouldn't. Same thing happened with lucid beta1. Is there some hardware problem? How do I confirm it?	11:33
kanzie	grep -R 'myword' .	11:33
kanzie	but how do I add only .php.files	11:33
kanzie	./*.php does not do it	11:33
Dr_Willis	the grep lines show the files.. you could grep the output again to look for .php :) i guess	11:34
Dr_Willis	proberly a nicer way however	11:34
erUSUL	kanzie: find ./ -name '*.php' -exec sh -c 'if grep -q myword "$1"; then echo "$1 matchs"; fi' _ '{}' \;	11:35
Trashi	hello guys. i have a problem to reinstall linux an my computer... because he cannot write filesystem on some parts of hd ... i did try ubuntu live cd and debian netinstall cd and allways the same error... i did removed the partitiontable with cfdisk ... is there somebody who can help me	11:35
kanzie	erUSUL: hahahaha	11:35
nibbler	Trashi: maybe your harddisk is broken?	11:36
kanzie	erUSUL: that is a little overkill	11:36
Dr_Willis	ive seen much more complex then that kanzie :)	11:36
erUSUL	kanzie: i'm waiting for your solution ;P	11:36
civpro	would someone help me with pastebinit, getting an error, ill pastebin the error, how ironic	11:36
Dr_Willis	civpro: pastebin web site changes stuff the other week. You can set pastebinit to use a differnt site.	11:37
jrib	kanzie: grep whatever */.php	11:37
Dr_Willis	im not sure if theres an updated pastebinit command in the repos yet or not.	11:37
Trashi	nibbler: yes i thought the same, but it was possible to create a new partition table and it was also possible to upgrade grub in former steps	11:37
abhi_nav	Trashi: to check hdd try this: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download	11:37
civpro	drwilis where do i change it to?	11:37
civpro	http://pastebin.com/bNPunRk8	11:37
Dr_Willis	civpro: pastebinit command has options, and default config file i recall.	11:37
civpro	the one that comes with it wont even trigger	11:38
Trashi	nibbler: but is it possible that only a part auf hd is broken .. because some other partitions he can write without problems	11:38
civpro	yes im asking the location of it	11:38
civpro	:)	11:38
nibbler	Trashi: do a cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda - with sda being the disk you want to test, see if you get I/O Errors (this erases the disk sda)	11:38
Dr_Willis	man pastebinit or pastebinit --help	11:38
Trashi	nibbler: ill try it	11:38
nibbler	Trashi: that is possible, and would be a clear sign to immediately backup your data and get a new hd :)	11:38
civpro	did u see the errors im getting	11:38
civpro	?	11:38
civpro	cause i dont think its that	11:38
Dr_Willis	summarize the error perhaps. Im on 10.04 so cant really double check if it happens here or not.	11:39
civpro	cant u look at the pastebin	11:39
Dr_Willis	not at this time no.	11:39
civpro	can you?	11:39
civpro	cause its 17 lines	11:39
martron	I just installed 10.04 on second hard disk, how do i get to files on my other windows hard drive? <--- very noob	11:40
civpro	unless u want me to paste it in here	11:40
callum1	Hopefully an easy question. How can I change the ctrl+alt+F* shortcuts in karmic. I want to make tty just one fkey press and the revert back to normal one keypress. I couldnt find this in the keyboard shortcuts menu	11:40
abhi_nav	!10.04 \| martron	11:40
ubottu	martron: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 29th, 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+1 - Development Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule	11:40
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martron	ok ty	11:40
abhi_nav	callum1 what is tty?	11:42
callum1	on ubuntu press ctrl+alt+F2 for example	11:42
callum1	it will open a terminal	11:42
abhi_nav	callum1 hmm . it opens. then?	11:42
callum1	and ctrl+alt+f7 returns you to normal	11:43
callum1	I want to change these shortcuts	11:43
abhi_nav	callum1 to change to normal I just type exit ;)	11:43
callum1	I want to leave processes running in this shell	11:44
callum1	so I need to change both shortcuts	11:44
abhi_nav	callum1 hmm .	11:44
Matisse	hi	11:45
Matisse	usb-stuff is always mounted as read-only. How do I change it or is it a hardware error?	11:45
Matisse	(working with root rights, then still no deletion is permitted)	11:45
abhi_nav	Matisse: you plug in usb in that account in which account you want to do delete etc operations	11:46
Matisse	cant delete as normal user either	11:46
Matisse	the sentence in brackets is only to show that its not a rights problem	11:47
abhi_nav	Matisse: if you want to do operation from account A, then plug-in your usb to computer when you are logged in, in account A, not account B	11:47
Matisse	i did	11:47
abhi_nav	Matisse: OhH hmmmm	11:47
abhi_nav	Matisse: add yourself to usb group	11:48
waltercool	someone knows why totem works TOO bad with theora videos? VLC works speedy	11:48
Matisse	abhi_nav, that group isnt existing	11:48
abhi_nav	Matisse: hmmm........amm? then dont know much about it	11:50
Pirate_Hunter	hi anyone care to suggest a filesystem that is good at handling many files in one volume, it will get accessed often, small files are created, written and removed. Was looking into reiserfs... but is there an alternative?	11:50
Svedrin	I just updated to lucid and now keep getting this error message for munin-node and nfs-{common,kernel-server}: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused	11:50
Svedrin	I only find websites talking about chroots, but I'm in a VM...	11:51
bazhang	Svedrin, #ubuntu+1 please	11:51
Matisse	abhi_nav, thanks for trying to help anyway	11:51
abhi_nav	Matisse: yah Welcome :)	11:52
bullgard	/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.31/drivers/platform/x86/thinkpad_acpi.c is headlined: "thinkpad_acpi.c - ThinkPad ACPI Extras". What does 'Extras' mean here?	11:52
civpro	someone please help me with pastebinit	11:52
civpro	i cant find anything on google	11:52
civpro	been looking for days	11:52
civpro	and cant seem to find any help on it anywhere	11:52
bullgard	civpro: When I tried it lately, I learned that it is not functional.	11:53
erUSUL	bullgard: things that are not common to all laptops. extra buttons chips funcionalities that are handled via ACPI methods	11:53
civpro	there has to be a manual way to install though	11:53
erUSUL	civpro: you have to use an alternate site. command \| pastebinit -b pastebin.ca	11:54
civpro	ah ok	11:54
erUSUL	civpro: the default site does not currently works	11:54
civpro	and that will work?	11:54
erUSUL	civpro: command \| pastebinit -b paste.ubuntu.com	11:54
erUSUL	civpro: try	11:54
civpro	thanks	11:55
kiaas	how do I setup a ssh tunnel/proxy? ssh -D localhost:1025 user@server isn't working.	11:55
civpro	so if your wanting to pastebin a file what command would that be?	11:56
civpro	i thought it was pastebinit filename	11:56
nibbler	kiaas: -D would be dynamic, and needs to be followed by the local port, so use: ssy -D8080 remote.host.net	11:56
bullgard	erUSUL: thinkpad_acpi.c includes a function for fan control. Do you think that this is not common to all laptops?	11:56
nibbler	kiaas: but this would be socks5 proxy, if you want to have a static tunnel, use: ssh -L8080:host.example.com:80 yourhost.net <-- the tunnel will be between your local host and yourhost.net and will be pointing to host.example.com:80	11:57
risumner	Firefox and Chrome stopped loading Facebook yesterday. I am on 64b Jaunty. All other web sites work. Another system on the same lan works fine. I switched accounts, same problem. Rebooted , same, Cleard historyno change	11:57
civpro	ircop@sceneslayer:~/eggdrop/scripts$ pastebinit ircbonus.tcl -b pastebin.ca	11:57
civpro	http://pastebin.com	11:57
civpro	all it shows up	11:58
hal	how do packages get added to the ppa?	11:59
hal	I would like to install the latest openoffice 3.2, but it is not yet available for karmic ie http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ppa/ubuntu/dists/	11:59
jack__	Can anyone help me setup a local server on ubuntu 9.10?	11:59
civpro	jack type in tasksel	12:00
civpro	should make it easy on you	12:01
jack__	tasksel	12:01
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civpro	ya	12:02
civpro	in your terminal	12:02
civpro	not here	12:02
jack__	ah i c lol	12:02
jack__	donk lol	12:02
erUSUL	bullgard: i did not named the file ;)	12:03
snow_	hi	12:03
snow_	I'm using gkrellm with thunderbird but don't know how gkrellm can notify me when thunderbirds get a new email !!!	12:03
jack__	if im trying to set up for a php website interacting with a mySQL database should i instal a lamp server right?	12:03
erUSUL	jack__: right	12:03
tester999	1	12:04
jack__	"tasksel: debconf failed to run"	12:04
tester999	всем привет	12:04
igoryonya	does ubuntu already install seamonkey 2 from it's repository, or I have to download it from mozilla's site?	12:04
bazhang	tester999, /join #ubuntu-ru	12:04
igoryonya	tester999: привет :)	12:05
tester999	)	12:05
tester999	здрасте	12:05
jack__	erUSUL: I get "tasksel: debconf failed to run" in the terminal when i press enter to install a lamp server	12:05
kubi_ubi_bubi	hello! How can I start video-call under ubuntu linux? (I mean for msn)	12:05
tester999	hi	12:05
tester999	have gamers ?	12:06
igoryonya	kubi_ubi_bubi: maybe skype?	12:06
igoryonya	tester999, I am a gamer, but don't have much time for it nowdays. :)	12:06
igoryonya	kubi_ubi_bubi, sorry, I didn't see that you say msn in parentacies	12:07
kubi_ubi_bubi	i don't really like the skype program	12:07
liunx	why?	12:08
liunx	but skype is really good to use	12:08
igoryonya	not to start the flame war but I've always hated msn ;)	12:08
djay_	hello	12:09
tester999	igoryonya: давай по русски )	12:09
aj_	hi all. when i close the lid to my laptop, the computer suspends, but when i open the lid, the screen is blank. please helpl, i'm using jaunty jackalope (9.04)	12:09
jack__	aj_ go to your screensaver or power management settings	12:09
kubi_ubi_bubi	I think i can't join to my hotmail address with the skype	12:09
igoryonya	tester999: in russian, надо в #ubuntu-ru сидеть, а-то здесь ругаться начнут.	12:09
aj_	jack__ ok i'm there	12:09
erUSUL	jack__: sudo tasksel install lamp ?	12:10
HAMBURG	hello people, i have a quick question	12:10
aj_	jack__, it's set to suspend when the lid is closed.	12:10
HAMBURG	were can i get audio/x-private-ts-lpcm decoder	12:10
jack__	erUSUL: I have a lamp server already installed. I just want to set up my php files so i can run tests on the site im building locally (*thus avoiding ftp file updats constantly)	12:10
kubi_ubi_bubi	All my friends are using MSN	12:10
erUSUL	!lamp \| jack__	12:11
ubottu	jack__: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)	12:11
djay_	hey you know how to install flash, I need your help I can not do	12:11
HAMBURG	were can i get audio/x-private-ts-lpcm decoder ???	12:11
jack__	aj_: change it to blank screen maybe	12:11
tester999	help with playing cs 1.6	12:11
aj_	jack__, but i want it to suspend, which it does...only opening the lid the screen is black.	12:12
erUSUL	HAMBURG: install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?	12:12
Flare183	What's the default buffer size for Audacious?	12:12
erUSUL	!appdb \| tester999	12:12
ubottu	tester999: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help	12:12
risumner	If I am asking in the wrong chat, where should I go. Facebook not loading. I have ping facebook.com fine.	12:12
jack__	aj_: I'm not sure why tat is sorry. I have had the same problem before, I just changed it to blank screen rather than suspend	12:12
erUSUL	HAMBURG: no just install it from the software center	12:12
HAMBURG	ok from synaptic	12:12
HAMBURG	ill check it	12:13
tester999	here is what q@Q:~/CS1.6$ wine hl.exe -game cstrike	12:13
tester999	X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)	12:13
tester999	Major opcode of failed request: 136 (GLX)	12:13
tester999	Minor opcode of failed request: 5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent)	12:13
tester999	Serial number of failed request: 1338	12:13
tester999	Current serial number in output stream: 1338	12:13
FloodBot2	tester999: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	12:13
djay_	hey you know how to install flash, I need your help I can not do	12:13
aj_	if anyone has any ideas, when i close the lid to my laptop, the computer suspends, but when i open the lid, the screen is blank. please help, i'm using jaunty jackalope (9.04)	12:13
jack__	ubottu: I have a lamp server already installed. I just want to set up my php files so i can run tests on the site im building locally (*thus avoiding ftp file updats constantly)	12:13
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	12:13
erUSUL	djay_: install ubuntu-restricted-extras from software center	12:13
HAMBURG	erusul ubuntu-restricted-extras when i search it in synaptic	12:14
HAMBURG	nothing is comming up	12:14
tester999	help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/399259/	12:14
bazhang	tester999, check the appdb, /join #winehq	12:14
OerHeks	HAMBURG, just search restricted, Kubuntu and Ubuntu should show up	12:14
erUSUL	HAMBURG: make sure you have multiverse enabled in System<Admon>software sources first tab	12:14
tester999	bazhang: ok	12:14
erUSUL	tester999: do you have 3d acceleration working?	12:14
jack__	Any help on setting up a php website on a local server. Already have LAMP installed on my machine, but no idea how to get the site set up on it.	12:15
bazhang	http://appdb.winehq.org <--- tester999	12:15
tester999	драйвер ati стоит но незнаю включен или нет	12:15
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tester999	ati driver is enabled but don `t know whether or not	12:15
pyqt_2010_newbie	/var/www this is the directory for the site	12:15
vista	hello	12:15
vista	i need help	12:16
pyqt_2010_newbie	help with what? :?	12:16
HAMBURG	erusul its not comming up in package and i have multiverse enables im using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS	12:17
HAMBURG	- the Lucid Lynx	12:17
HAMBURG	will that make a difference	12:17
Pici	HAMBURG : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.	12:17
Pici	HAMBURG: Lucid support is only in #ubuntu+1	12:18
igoryonya	does ubuntu already install seamonkey 2 from it's repository, or I have to download it from mozilla's site?	12:18
erUSUL	igoryonya: maybe the mozilla ppa has it dunno	12:19
erUSUL	djay_: post the exact error message you get ina pastebin please	12:19
erUSUL	!paste \| djay_	12:19
ubottu	djay_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.	12:19
erUSUL	!pm \| djay_	12:20
ubottu	djay_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.	12:20
igoryonya	erUSUL: what's mozilla ppa?	12:20
erUSUL	!ppa \| igoryonya	12:20
ubottu	igoryonya: With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.	12:20
jack__	Can I just put php files somewhere in the /apache directory to run webpages locally?	12:21
red	jack__: you need to put the files where your apache is pointing to	12:22
red	iirc etc/apache/sites-enabled/ directory has a file which is poitning to your apache root directory	12:22
jack__	red: can you be more specific?	12:22
red	configure that or place the files where that configuration file is pointing to	12:22
jack__	red: Im really bad with backend stuff and file dirctories	12:23
red	ah	12:23
red	let me rephrase then	12:23
chaitan3	jack__, it's /var/www by default	12:23
red	chaitan3: ty, wasn't sure what it is in karmic :)	12:23
red	jack__: try placing your .php file into /var/www and then typing http://localhost into your browser	12:23
jack__	chaitan3:there doesnt seem to be such a file directory in /apache and i cant create new folder	12:23
jack__	2 secs	12:23
red	the folder isn't under apache	12:24
jack__	red: is the dirctory just /var/www ?	12:24
red	yes	12:25
red	there should be a index.html in that folder :)	12:25
red	rename it to index.bak and put your php stuff there	12:25
djay_	file:///home/djay/Desktop/Screenshot.png	12:25
djay_	help	12:25
red	djay_: the file is located on your PC, we can't see it :)	12:26
red	try uploading it to some image uploading website	12:26
jack__	red: yer found the html file, but I dot seem to have permission to move files into the directory	12:26
jack__	dont	12:26
red	jack__: open a terminal	12:27
red	then cd /var	12:27
jack__	red: thanks im in a temrinal	12:27
red	then sudo chown yourusername www/	12:27
red	then you should have correct rights to modify the folder and its contents	12:27
red	i have to go now, hope you get it working ->	12:27
igoryonya	so, does ubuntu already install seamonkey 2 from it's repository or 1.x yet?	12:30
jack__	red: thanks for help. What should i type into the browser to disp;lay the file?	12:30
djay_	www.Screenshot.png	12:31
Aciid	wait what?	12:32
jack__	anyone know the url to display files stored in my /var/www directory	12:32
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djay_	how i get libpanga1.0-0	12:33
Aciid	jack__: http://localhost	12:33
forceblade	ciao a tutti	12:33
jack__	aciid: like this - "http://localhost/var/www/index.php"	12:34
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djay_	how i get libpagno1.0-0	12:34
Aciid	jack__: fail do not set your root, as HTTPD_ROOT	12:34
djay_	how i get libpango1.0-0*	12:35
Dr_Willis	!find libpango	12:37
ubottu	Found: libpango-perl, libpango1.0-0, libpango1.0-0-dbg, libpango1.0-common, libpango1.0-dev (and 8 others)	12:37
Dr_Willis	hmm he left befor the bot tole him the package name	12:38
CamFox	jack__: no like http://localhost/index.php	12:39
albech_	is there a way to tar files in a directory (e.g /home/user/backup) without getting /home/user/backup pathnames included in the files?	12:41
Dr_Willis	albech_: tar has a exclude option	12:41
albech_	Dr_Willis, I dont want to exclude files	12:41
albech_	Dr_Willis, i want to not include the whole path	12:41
meowbuntu	hi does the bootable partition of a usb drive have to be first	12:41
Dr_Willis	You want to exclude the backup files so you dont backup thebackups... :)	12:41
djay_	how i get libpngo1.0-0	12:41
Dr_Willis	what root path do you want to use	12:42
Dr_Willis	djay_: its in the repos. Use the package manager search and install	12:42
CamFox	albech_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=307814	12:42
Dr_Willis	!find libpango \| djay_	12:42
ubottu	djay_: Found: libpango-perl, libpango1.0-0, libpango1.0-0-dbg, libpango1.0-common, libpango1.0-dev (and 8 others)	12:42
tobago	how to set the prompt on the remote server when doing in a shell script: ssh tobago@$server 'cd /var/log; /bin/bash'	12:42
bullgard	erUSUL: Thank you.	12:43
erUSUL	bullgard: no problem	12:43
albech_	CamFox, exactly what i was looking for, thanks	12:43
Dr_Willis	tobago: you set the PS1 variable as needed to set the 'prompt'	12:44
Dr_Willis	tobago: thers dozens of guides and howtos on bash-promots	12:44
tobago	Dr_Willis, like: 'cd /var/log; /bin/bash; echo $PS1' ?	12:44
Dr_Willis	albech_: ages ago i moved some stuff to a tar archive.. and some how addede the archive itself.. it then deleted itself. :)	12:44
Dr_Willis	tobago: go read up on the 'bash prompt howto'	12:45
albech_	Dr_Willis, haha i have done that too.. but that was a different issue	12:45
Dr_Willis	echo $PS1 shows the current setting for PS1	12:45
Dr_Willis	tobago: but from what you are asking.. its not clear what you want.	12:46
risumner	Firefox and Chrome stopped loading Facebook yesterday. Any help? If I am asking in the wrong chat, where should I go?	12:49
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bretzel_	Hi there, I have a problem with mysql service not auto starting even in /etc/rc2.d/	12:49
Dr_Willis	bretzel_: it might be using upstart now. see if it has a config in /etc/init (or it may not) I dont know what services are getting moved to upstart.	12:50
happyface	are there any irssi themes that color nick names so rooms look more organized	12:50
Dr_Willis	happyface: the irssi homepage has tons of themes/scripts for that	12:51
Dr_Willis	happyface: weechat can also do that feature.	12:51
bretzel_	Dr_Willis: thanks for the hint, I will dig it and learn upstart... ( yet I am ruinning Kubuntu 9.10 which must be the same as Ubuntu... )	12:51
bretzel_	wow! typ[o: running!!!!	12:51
bretzel_	ruining Kubuntu hahaha I meant running	12:52
tobago	Dr_Willis, mmh. i read: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/ but setting the $PS1="\u@\h" won't show me the expected prompt.	12:52
erUSUL	bretzel_: i think there is a script to color them	12:52
bretzel_	I am not that used with irc, just bare using it	12:53
donavan01	anyone know if there is a program that will let me look at audio specturm of an mp3 I need something a little more advanced than a simple graphics equalizer	12:54
sipior	donavan01: i believe audacity will do that for you.	12:55
sipior	donavan01: or do you mean that you need a full fourier analysis tool?	12:56
tobago	it looks like the /bin/bash removes the $PS1?	12:57
donavan01	sipior not sure ... I have some mp3s that want to see if someone has overlaid something onto them or if its just junk noise	12:57
happyface	Dr_Willis: I've tried themes but all just make the text all one color really	12:58
Dr_Willis	happyface: its not a theme thing. its a script thing	12:58
Dr_Willis	tobago: then change it to what you want. theres 10000's of things you can use in a prompt	12:58
tobago	Dr_Willis, i wanto to connect to remote server by a script using ssh and changing the directory for later use. that's why i tried: ssh tobago@$server 'cd /var/log; /bin/bash; $PS1="\u@\h \W> "'	12:58
sipior	donavan01: give audacity a try, see if it solves your problem	12:58
Demiurge	I'm trying to install a program that seems to require xdialog on Karmic. Karmic seems to think that xdialog is oold and boring, so could anyone please hint me on what to do? Is there a replacement? What's it called?	12:58
donavan01	sipior ok thanks	12:59
tobago	Dr_Willis, as you can see i set up the prompt, but the prompt is not visible.	12:59
Dr_Willis	tobago: use export perhaps.	13:00
Dr_Willis	tobago: and you dont set $PS1 you set PS1	13:00
Dr_Willis	tobago: and ive no idea why you have that cd /var/log; /bin/bash in there...	13:00
sundar	i have an problem with my xorg	13:00
sundar	can anyone help me.	13:01
happyface	Dr_Willis: thanks	13:01
tobago	Dr_Willis, it'sin there to change the directory to /va/log and the /bin/bash is for staying on the server. otherwise the connection quits immediately.	13:01
tobago	/var/log	13:02
tobago	Dr_Willis, the sense behind the script is to a remote server, change the directory to /var/log and keeping the connection for work.	13:03
tobago	say checking log files	13:03
sundar	the resolution i have changed	13:04
Dr_Willis	tobago: you are trying to too much at the same time I think. when you run bash.. it will do its own init stuff. and you can set the prompt in the bashrc	13:04
Dr_Willis	tobago: ssh has a execut command option i recall also.	13:05
Dr_Willis	tobago: you may want to check out 'screen' with ssh - its very very handy	13:06
tobago	Dr_Willis, following the manual of ssh i should do as i did.	13:08
Dr_Willis	tobago: no idea then. you DO set PS1 NOT '$PS1' variable.	13:09
tobago	Dr_Willis, i can't see an screen option of ssh	13:09
Dr_Willis	export PS1='--->'	13:09
tobago	Dr_Willis, yep. i removed the "$"	13:09
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Dr_Willis	tobago: screen is a tool you run over ssh. to get enhanced features	13:09
Dr_Willis	!screen	13:09
ubottu	Screen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also useful over SSH. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen	13:09
TecanLT	i copied the debs form an old install to the deb cache how do i install them ?	13:10
jatt	hi I'm using ubuntu and my computer gets assigned an IP address with dhcp. However most other computers in my office network have names like ws-01, ws-02, etc. How do I know which name corresponds to my IP address?	13:12
OerHeks	jatt ask the IT guy @ your office ?	13:13
Dr_Willis	TecanLT: sudo dpkg -i whatever	13:13
Souljah	uname -n	13:13
albech_	!wins	13:14
jatt	OerHeks: he yes, maybe, but he is, err. not a nice person :). Is there a way to obtain this with a reverse lookup (i.e. IP -> name of my computer)?	13:14
Dr_Willis	jatt: try the 'findsmb' and 'smbtree' commands perhaps?	13:15
Dr_Willis	if it has a sambashare :)	13:15
FourDollars	Chris___: I need the irc channel. ^^b	13:16
sundar	how can i adjust the screen in my desktop	13:17
abhi_nav	sundar: system=>preferences=>display	13:18
sundar	hi abhi	13:19
abhi_nav	hi sundar	13:19
sundar	look like i had tryed it..	13:19
abhi_nav	sundar: hmm	13:19
sundar	i hve install up	13:19
abhi_nav	sundar: what you actualy want to do?	13:19
sundar	ubuntu 9.4	13:19
abhi_nav	sundar what is up?	13:19
sundar	and upgraded to 9.10	13:19
sundar	while upgrading it	13:20
abhi_nav	hmm	13:20
abhi_nav	sundar: try to ask your question all in one line with details	13:20
sundar	my screen resolution has been changed into 800 *600	13:20
djay_	there is no libpango-perl	13:21
abhi_nav	sundar: what does system=>preferences=>display gives?	13:21
sundar	i cant find my original 1024 pix so i had reconfif xorg t0 1024 but	13:21
risumner	I can ping Facebook.com. I can load facebook on another computer on the same lan, but I can't load facebook on my jaunty system, beginning yesterday. Any help?	13:21
Pici	djay_: That package only seems to exist in >= karmic	13:22
sundar	some of the screens have been to be adjusted..	13:22
abhi_nav	risumner: try myspace? ;) :P	13:22
abhi_nav	sundar: what does system=>preferences=>display gives?	13:22
albech_	risumner, route -n	13:22
djay_	ubottu there is no libpango-perl	13:22
sundar	just a min	13:22
abhi_nav	sundar: hmm	13:23
* premiero saying hi everybody		13:23
sundar	it detect 1024x768(4:3)	13:23
sundar	at an refresh rate 60hz	13:23
risumner	What is rout -n	13:23
abhi_nav	sundar: hmm. then use it	13:24
risumner	i maent route -n ?	13:24
sundar	yup i m using it... but the display is not comes full screen	13:24
sundar	only 80%of my screen has been covered by it..	13:25
abhi_nav	sundar: can you imagebin your desktop?	13:25
sundar	how can i...	13:25
warriorforgod	I have a laptop runing 9.10, latest nvidia drivers and dual monitors. When I try and use the touchpad on the laptop I cannot scroll over to the second screen. Any suggestions?	13:25
sundar	by screen shot	13:25
abhi_nav	sundar: imagebin your desktop and system=>preferences=>display settings separately	13:26
abhi_nav	sundar: yah using screenshot	13:26
abhi_nav	warriorforgod: dont know how, but you have to enable touchpad scrolling somewhere	13:26
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djay_	oke i got libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-0-dbg libpango1.0-common libpango1.0-dev libpango1.0-doc libpango-ruby libpango-ruby-1.8 which I still miss the libpango	13:27
starsk1	Hello everybody, need your help... How can i connect to usb device with terminal ?	13:27
starsk1	anybody ?	13:28
sundar	abhi nav	13:28
TecanLT	dongs	13:28
sundar	i got the screenshot..	13:28
sundar	how can i send it to u..	13:28
abhi_nav	!imagebin \| sundar	13:28
ubottu	sundar: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://tinyurl.com/imagebin and post a link to it.	13:28
TecanLT	is ubuntu for retards too ?	13:28
sundar	k	13:29
djay_	oke i got libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-0-dbg libpango1.0-common libpango1.0-dev libpango1.0-doc libpango-ruby libpango-ruby-1.8 which I still miss the libpango	13:29
mm_	wtf	13:30
Dr_Willis	djay_: how are you coming to the conclusion? what are youy trying to do exactly?	13:31
Dr_Willis	starsk1: clearify whatt you mean by 'connect'	13:32
FourDollars	#welcome	13:32
Dr_Willis	warriorforgod: you can move to the 2nd monitor with a mouse but no9t the touch pad?	13:32
sundar	abhi	13:32
risumner	I can ping Facebook.com. I can load facebook on another computer on the same lan, but I can't load facebook on my jaunty system, beginning yesterday. Fails with both Firefox and Chrome. All other web site work. Any help?	13:33
sundar	imagebin.org/89900	13:33
sundar	i have my screen into it... check	13:33
abhi_nav	sundar:? full address?	13:33
sundar	http://imagebin.org/89900	13:33
warriorforgod	Dr_Willis: Yes	13:33
abhi_nav	sundar: copy paste the address from your address bar of browswer to here	13:34
ehazlett	anyone know the preseed directive to skip the migration-assistant during install?	13:34
Dr_Willis	warriorforgod: that is weird. if you lift up you finger and drag from left to right does it stop at teh edge? or go on?	13:34
sundar	A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.	13:34
warriorforgod	Dr_Willis: Stops at the edge.	13:34
abhi_nav	sundar: I cannt see any MM icon? what is MM icon?	13:34
sundar	did u get it..	13:34
genii	!info libpango-perl	13:35
ubottu	libpango-perl (source: libpango-perl): Perl module to layout and render international text. In component main, is optional. Version 1.220-1 (karmic), package size 241 kB, installed size 900 kB	13:35
sundar	what is that mm icon	13:35
abhi_nav	sundar: where?	13:35
ehazlett	hey genii, do you happen to know the preseed option to bypass the migration-assistant ?	13:35
sundar	i have changed up using gnome icon	13:35
abhi_nav	sundar: which version of ubuntu?	13:35
sundar	abhi i m using this 9.10	13:36
jessi	hola	13:36
abhi_nav	sundar: first check if that your hardware is supported or not, including motherboard, graphics card etc. because I just read this = http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9008152#post9008152	13:36
sundar	but i have changed up this icon package	13:36
sundar	oh	13:37
abhi_nav	sundar: read that link and see if yours is the same problem as that of him	13:37
sundar	thank u dude.	13:37
abhi_nav	sundar: ? so what happend?	13:38
sundar	i got that forum	13:38
abhi_nav	sundar: so your harware is not supported too? Please tell me, I am just planning to install new 9.10. What you suggest me?	13:38
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