[00:00] <tuxuser> GSwindle76: you already know you can ssh from server to server. You should capture packets and logs while you're trying to connect from client to server and it times out.
[00:00] <blackmamba> 1 sec ill grab the link
[00:00] <blackmamba> https://d2l.cbe.ab.ca/
[00:00] <blackmamba> it loads fast under win but it takes a while in linux with ff
[00:00] <airtonix> blackmamba, im not really interested in how long it takes... what you should be doing is ticking off a list of possibilities that are causing the percieved delay.
[00:00] <nikin> hy. may someone be so kind to explain me what does eat up about 100MB of ram in nm-applet?
[00:00] <Trek> blackmamba: that link loaded in under 1 second :P
[00:01] <nunya> GSwindle76, you did ssh -v from the client?
[00:01] <GSwindle76> yes nunya it hangs on debug1: Sending env LANG = en_US.UTF-8
[00:01] <Guest92792> wow It has alot of tools o...O
[00:01] <Typos_King> nikin:   it shows 11Mbs for me, sooo
[00:01] <blackmamba> Trek, what browser r u using? if its ff what version or tweaks have u installed
[00:02] <Guest92792> + how do I burn cd's with linux systems again lol/
[00:02] <Typos_King> hehe
[00:02] <Typos_King> Guest92792:     check in the apps, it'd one one there for burning
[00:02] <Typos_King> I use k3b myself, but that's in kde :P
[00:02] <blackmamba> airtonix, the loadtime is what my question is all about and trust me ive been trying to break down what could be causing it
[00:02] <tuxuser> Guest92792: brasero
[00:03] <Guest92792> nope don't have 1 =X
[00:03] <Trek> blackmamba: firefox, with IPv6 off, ad-block plus online
[00:03] <GSwindle76> Im seeing a waringin that says Mar bla bla greg-desktop[3632] WARNING: /etc/ssh/moduli does not exist, using fixed modulus
[00:03] <TMK> is Tom M on a cruise ship that's going down?
[00:03] <Typos_King> Guest92792:     then install it -> sudo apt-get install brasero;
[00:03] <Trek> blackmamba: that, and I'm on a high-powered internet connection
[00:03] <Guest92792> that's for gnome
[00:03] <nikin> Typos_King: somehow 365MB is used on my system and nm-applet is the top eater.
[00:03] <blackmamba> Trek, is turning off IPv6 off a feature in the menus?
[00:03] <Guest92792> does it work on dbian based?
[00:04] <Guest92792> debian*
[00:04] <Trek> blackmamba: not really, you have to know what to search for, standby
[00:04] <yudun1989> why my computer got to crash when I connect to the internet?..who can tell me ....
[00:04] <smegzor> I have 2 usb memory sticks.  Neither mount on my Ubuntu pc, but one which is FAT mounts fine for XP, the other which is ext3 mounts fine for my ubuntu laptop.  Why can't I mount them on my pc and what can I do to 'fix' them?
[00:04] <blackmamba> Trek, thnx
[00:04] <Typos_King> nikin:    I'm guessing 'top' isn't showing child processes or something, it shows 11Mbs for me, I use 'qps' which is a visual process manager, is in the repos, it shows the whole process tree, sooo
[00:04] <metalf8801> tuxuser I booted into safe mode and tried shutting down using shutdown -P now and I still had the same problem
[00:04] <Trek> blackmamba: want to know how to turn IPv6 off?
[00:05] <blackmamba> Trek, yep
[00:05] <Trek> blackmamba: PM me please
[00:05] <hugehug> hi
[00:05] <yudun1989> why my computer got to crash when I connect to the internet?..who can tell me ....:'(
[00:06] <mrman> hi
[00:06] <Typos_King> nikin:   just checked in 'top', also shows 11mbs for me
[00:06] <mrman> hi
[00:06] <tuxuser> metalf8801: what I meant was to watch the messages on the screen while shutting down the pc and see where the process hangs (and report back here of course :-)
[00:06] <mrman> hi, all
[00:06] <tuxuser> GSwindle76: have you tried both with server ip and hostname ?
[00:06] <nikin> Typos_King: let me check with that... anyway i am runing a bare X without gdm and fluxbox as a wm. i have a terminal open with a screen session and irssi... that should not be 365MB
[00:07] <yudun1989> why my ubuntu pc got to crash when I connected to the internet?..who can tell me ....
[00:07] <Diane> heyt
[00:07] <hugehug> yudun tell me more about it
[00:07] <Diane> i need some help with ubuntu
[00:07] <Diane> configuring a static I{
[00:07] <hugehug> hey diane
[00:07] <Diane> IP
[00:07] <GSwindle76> yes hostname dosnt work
[00:07] <tuxuser> GSwindle76: also, maybe deleting ~/.ssh (in the client and in the server /home/greg folder) might help.
[00:07] <GSwindle76> ive done that already
[00:07] <Diane> basically i have it setup now so local IP is working just fine as static, but when trying to reach outside the local network the ubuntu server is not working
[00:07] <CrashRoX> oye. I just upgraded my machine to Karmic and can no longer ssh in! I was able to get an emergency console setup. Restarted the ssh service but still cant get in. Any suggestions?
[00:07] <yudun1989> hugehug: when I use the terminal to update or set up the firefox,the ubuntu pc crashed
[00:08] <Diane> ?
[00:08] <Typos_King> yudun1989:   9.1? 8.1? 9.0?
[00:08] <tuxuser> GSwindle76: then you might have some sort of dns timeout going on... isn't the server trying to do reverse mapping on the client ip address ? To find out it might help a packet dump from the server while the client times out.
[00:08] <Diane> # The primary network interface
[00:08] <Diane> auto eth0
[00:08] <mrman> hi, i have a question
[00:08] <Diane> iface eth0 inet static
[00:08] <Diane> address 192.168.0.106
[00:08] <FloodBot2> Diane: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:08] <Diane> netmask 225.225.225.0
[00:08] <Diane> network 192.168.0.1
[00:08] <yudun1989> Typos_King: 9.10
[00:08] <mrman> can anyone help?
[00:09] <airtonix> !anyone
[00:09] <nikin> Typos_King: it shows the same amount here.. but take a look at MEM%. 0.9 here from 2gigs
[00:09] <tuxuser> GSwindle76: I ask because my $WORK ssh gateway does just that.
[00:09] <hugehug> is it up to date?
[00:09] <GSwindle76> okay how would i determine that?
[00:09] <Diane> ok so i asked the question why is not connecting to the WAN?
[00:10] <mrman> i have a Mac computer running 10.6.2 and disk utility cant format a usb stick, im wondering if gparted would do the trick
[00:10] <PeterT> is there a way to create a user and restrict them to /home/user?
[00:10] <Guest92792> hmm can't burn stuff with brasero/
[00:10] <Typos_King> nikin:    the MEM% is meant to reflect the RSS in %, there are 2 amounts and the same
[00:10] <yudun1989> Typos_King: when I start the firefox or use terminal to update ,the computer got to crashed
[00:10] <GSwindle76> System:    Host greg-laptop Kernel 2.6.31-14-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Linux Mint 8 Helena - Main Edition
[00:10] <GSwindle76> System:    Host greg-laptop Kernel 2.6.31-14-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Linux Mint 8 Helena - Main Edition
[00:11] <airtonix> !paste | GSwindle76
[00:11] <Typos_King> Guest92792:     it can't burn? how so?
[00:11] <Guest92792> the medium is not writable with current set of plugins...
[00:11] <Guest92792> that's what i said
[00:11] <metalf8801> the last thing it says is deactivating swap... then it just stops
[00:11] <Diane> http://pastebin.com/smcfZCAe
[00:11] <Typos_King> yundun1989:   I'd think is.... some amiss install, I'd retry a reinstall
[00:11] <Diane> there is the url to my etc/network/interfaces setup?
[00:11] <metalf8801> no message
[00:11] <mrman> hi, im wondering if i can use gparted to format a usb stick of mine so i can install ubuntu netbook remix on it
[00:11] <Guest92792> tried to burn a image (iso) on a cd
[00:11] <Diane> anyone tell me why its not connecting to WAN?
[00:11] <tuxuser> metalf8801: is the HD led active or does it just stop ?
[00:11] <nikin> Typos_King: check the details on process: it sayys: Virtual image size of proces: 78 MB
[00:12] <mrman> ...
[00:12] <PeterT> is there a way to create a user and restrict them to /home/user?
[00:12] <mrman> hello?
[00:12] <mrman> hi, im wondering if i can use gparted to format a usb stick of mine so i can install ubuntu netbook remix on it
[00:12] <mrman> or is gparted just for partitioning?
[00:12] <tuxuser> Diane: start by providing details; your question is too generic to be answered.
[00:12] <yudun1989> Typos_King: ......well...I don\t think the ubuntu had any problem.cause I just reinstalled yesterday.
[00:12] <Typos_King> Guest92792:         and ....  maybe the cd is not empty... maybe...  ... something
[00:13] <mrman> can i format a disk with gparted? or is it just for partitioning disks
[00:13] <Typos_King> Guest92792:         assuming you have a cdrw/burner :P
[00:13] <Guest92792> I'll try another one
[00:13] <Diane> ok basically when connecting to machine by Netbios  (like putty) on local network i can connect.. but when i do like apt-get update it will not connect to the outside servers?
[00:13] <Guest92792> I do
[00:13] <Diane> http://pastebin.com/smcfZCAe
[00:13] <Guest92792> >...<
[00:13] <JordanAllen> Can anyone help me as to making shared folders that a computer using Windows view?
[00:13] <Guest92792> got 2 of them lol
[00:13] <Typos_King> heh
[00:13] <tuxuser> Diane: try ping www.cineca.it
[00:13] <mrman> JordanAllen: how good are you with the terminal?
[00:13] <Diane> connect: Network is unreachable
[00:13] <clickme> hello everyone
[00:14] <JordanAllen> Not very? I just started using Ubuntu XD
[00:14] <mrman> oh
[00:14] <mrman> umm...
[00:14] <Guest92792> or my debian distro doesn't regonise my cdrw burners
[00:14] <Guest92792> =X
[00:14] <mrman> i would suggest looking up a gui ftp client and using that
[00:14] <metalf8801> tuxuser I think it stops but I can check again brb
[00:14] <mrman> and install a client on the windows too
[00:14] <teorrr> hi, i made a big mistake, i used gparted so i resized my windows partition and free 5G . then i copied them and paste this free 5G on my ubuntu partition...the result is i lost everything and ofcourse i cannot boot...is there i way to save something ?
[00:14] <mrman> or you can use dropbox
[00:15] <yudun1989> Typos_King: there are no problems exists in Win.
[00:15] <JordanAllen> I used the sharing thing built into Ubuntu and installed a Windows shareing file but I'm not sure if its workin
[00:15] <Typos_King> nikin:     the 'Size' or virtual one, shows 22Mbs for me
[00:15] <mrman> dropbox can sync your files between computers, even iff theyre not on the same network
[00:15] <Diane> anybody knw why
[00:15] <mrman> JordanAllen: i would suggest using dropbox
[00:15] <nikin> Typos_King: Typos_King : mem leak? how mouch is your uptime?
[00:15] <Diane> http://pastebin.com/smcfZCAe
[00:15] <Diane> static IP not connecting to wan problem?
[00:16] <Guest92792> changed the cd it still doesn't work =X
[00:16] <JordanAllen> Okay i will give that a try :D
[00:16] <mrman> JordanAllen: Dropbox will sync your files between computers and they dont have to be on the same network to do so
[00:16] <mrman> its free too :P
[00:16] <epkugelmass> has anyone tried to install lucid beta 1 in virtualbox? i can't get past the 'try ubuntu..install ubuntu' screen
[00:16] <clickme> my firefox browser is not displaying CLOSE, MINIMIZE, MAXIMINIZE options
[00:16] <airtonix> JordanAllen, right click a folder and select sharing.
[00:16] <smegzor> my usb stick won't mount in ubuntu 9.10 64bit.  Google tells me this is a bug in 64bit 9.10.  I can see the usb using lsusb, but I don't know how to mount it from command line as I don't know how to identify the usb stick in the mount command.  Anyone?
[00:16] <tuxuser> metalf8801: I'd look for hw errors then, install smartmontools then do a smartctl -a /dev/sda, then smartctl -t long /dev/sda (change device to where your swap partition is on)
[00:16] <Typos_King> nikin:   5h 13m
[00:17] <mrman> is it possible to use gparted to format a disk? or is it just for partitioning?
[00:17] <Diane> im sugin ubuntu server 8.04 LTS
[00:17] <clickme> mrman: yes you can use it 2 format
[00:17] <mkquist> clickme: f11?
[00:17] <mrman> ok
[00:17] <mrman> thank you
[00:17] <clickme> mkquist: no
[00:17] <Typos_King> Guest92792:         thought you had ubuntu.. anyway... it doesn't see the cdrw..mmmm
[00:18] <Guest92792> nope debian based =X
[00:18] <Guest92792> old school xD
[00:18] <tuxuser> Diane ifconfig eth0
[00:18] <metalf8801> tuxuser: the hard drive light is off its not blinking or anything
[00:18] <linxeh> I'd hardly say debian was oldskool :P
[00:18] <clickme> mkquist: is not even accepting compiz wobbly
[00:18] <teorrr> hi, i made a big mistake, i used gparted so i resized my windows partition and free 5G . then i copied them and paste this free 5G on my ubuntu partition...the result is i lost everything and ofcourse i cannot boot...is there i way to save something ?
[00:18] <Guest92792> checking some other ways to burn images on cd with linux (on google)
[00:19] <Diane> http://pastebin.com/p3x40gBR
[00:19] <Diane> that is my ipconfig
[00:19] <nikin> Typos_King: here 2:23 ... then what is happening. I dont get it. Do you know a command to clean up the memory from all cache?
[00:19] <tuxuser> Diane: ping 192.168.0.1 ?
[00:19] <clickme> Guest92792: k3b is the best
[00:19] <Diane> ping works for that
[00:20] <Guest92792> ok thanks let me check =D
[00:20] <Typos_King> yundun1989:   on your reinstall yesterday... did you wipe the partition before resintalling?   did you use a clean-slate partition, at the very least formatted, instead of installing ontop of existing files
[00:20] <smegzor> nevermind.  I managed to manually mount it.
[00:20] <nikin> Typos_King: althrought thats not the problem becouse its 414152 of 832240 used
[00:20] <metalf8801> I have the same problem with an older version of the kernel
[00:20] <tuxuser> Diane: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[00:20] <tuxuser> metalf8801: I would do a hardware check at this point. As I said, smartctl -t long /dev/sda then after a while smartctl -a /dev/sda
[00:21] <Diane> resolv.conf only has this line
[00:21] <Diane> nameserver 192.168.0.1
[00:21] <tuxuser> Diane: last one: route -n -v
[00:21] <clickme> my firefox browser is not displaying CLOSE, MINIMIZE, MAXIMINIZE options. is not even accepting compiz wobbly effects, i also tried a complete removal and it didn't work
[00:21] <teorrr> anyone can help me please ?
[00:21] <Diane> tuxuser: what do you mean?
[00:21] <clickme> teorrr: shoot
[00:22] <teorrr> hi, i made a big mistake, i used gparted so i resized my windows partition and free 5G . then i copied them and paste this free 5G on my ubuntu partition...the result is i lost everything and ofcourse i cannot boot...is there i way to save something ?
[00:22] <airtonix> !help | teorrr
[00:22] <tuxuser> Diane: type route -v -n as root or prepending sudo
[00:22] <Diane> tuxuser: http://pastebin.com/bTwciYTh
[00:22] <mrman> i just installed gparted adn am trying to create a new partition table and its giving me an error
[00:23] <clickme> teorrr: save what exactly
[00:23] <Trek> mrman: what error?
[00:23] <mrman> Trek: 1 second
[00:23] <Trek> mrman: pastebin it if its more than 2 lines long
[00:23] <tuxuser> Diane: then how can it say network is unreachable if you try to ping www.cineca.it ? Try ping 130.186.1.46
[00:23] <takishan> teorr: you cannot boot into windows? or can't boot at all?
[00:23] <teorrr> clickme, recover the files i lost...
[00:23] <mrman> Error while creating partition table.
[00:23] <mrman> thats it
[00:23] <Diane> connect: Network is unreachable
[00:23] <tuxuser> teorrr: look for ext3grep
[00:23] <Diane> tried it for both?
[00:23] <Trek> mrman: are there any details?
[00:23] <clickme> teorrr: your personal files
[00:23] <mrman> nope
[00:24] <Trek> mrman: did you create an msdos table?
[00:24] <mrman> thats the whole message
[00:24] <mrman> yes thats what im trying to male
[00:24] <teorrr> takishan, i dont know about windows and dont care now..i care about my ubuntu partition
[00:24] <mrman> *make
[00:24] <Typos_King> teorrr:    if it's a partition table writeouts, I doubt it myself, as even from a live-cd boot it won't let you mount it or even recognize it, since I'd think the partition information got messed
[00:24] <Trek> mrman, its possible your device is messed then
[00:24] <Trek> mrman, why'd you need to create the table in the first place?
[00:24] <giacomo_c> ﻿ im trying to install ubuntu studio, but after i select install ubuntu studio from the cd, my laptop screen just goes white and gets really bright
[00:24] <Diane> tuxuser: i tried it for both it still says network unreachable.. i knw it works lan because hte 192.168.0.1 ping works fine and the putty client im using locally works fine lol
[00:24] <mrman> im trying to format it so i can put UNR on it
[00:24] <mrman> is there another way to format it?
[00:25] <Trek> mrman: why did you need to create a table instead of removing the individual partition?
[00:25] <Trek> mrman: something must be messed, I can't fix it without seeing the drive myself
[00:25] <clickme> mrman: sometimes if is  mounted or the partition was not done correctly it could gave you bad information, try deleting the entire partition
[00:25] <mrman> ok
[00:25] <tuxuser> Diane: it seems like the router is not properly configured or even connected to the Internet. Can other pcs browse the web ?
[00:25] <mrman> i tried right clicking on the partition but it wont give me any options
[00:25] <Diane> tuxuser: yes the pc im on is browsing the web just fine and there are no problems
[00:25] <mrman> theyre all greyed out
[00:26] <Diane> i have DHCP turned off with the router
[00:26] <tuxuser> Diane: that shouldn't be a problems since the ubuntu server has static ip in eth0...
[00:26] <Guest92792> hmm k3b doesn't work ...
[00:26] <clickme> teorrr: you care about the files in the ubuntu partition or windows, you can run the ubuntu live disc and see if you can recover anything with that
[00:26] <Diane> correct
[00:26] <Guest92792> program doesn't start somehow
[00:26] <Diane> well
[00:26] <mrman> do i have to unmound the partition first?
[00:26] <Diane> did u look at the kernel IP routing table i mean it looks weird right?>
[00:26] <mrman> *unmount
[00:26] <dsnyders> Diane, according to your pastebin of the route output, you should only be able to contact 192.168.0.x addresses.
[00:26] <clickme> mrman: yes
[00:26] <Typos_King> Guest92792:         if the OS isn't picking up the hardware, the app won't be able to use it
[00:26] <Diane> http://pastebin.com/bTwciYTh
[00:27] <mrman> ok
[00:27] <digitalfiz> tuxuser,  have you tried to ping an external ip?
[00:27] <Diane> ok..
[00:27] <PeterT> is there a way to create a user and restrict them to /home/user?
[00:27] <Diane> so how do i fix that lol that is probably the problem
[00:27] <Guest92792> how do i let it pick up my cd burners?
[00:27] <clickme> mrman: this is better done on the live ubuntu disk
[00:27] <tuxuser> Diane: dsnyders is right, a default gateway is missing in route !
[00:27] <Typos_King> Guest92792:      sooooo, either you don't have a cdrw, or your system didn't load any drivers for it
[00:27] <tuxuser> route add default gw 192.168.0.1
[00:27] <digitalfiz> err i mean Diane can you ping external ips or have you tried? i mean try pining 69.147.114.224 thats a yahoo ip and it should ping back
[00:27] <Guest92792> my system didn't load it xD
[00:27] <mrman> clickme: what do you mean?
[00:27] <clickme> Guest92792: is it running
[00:28] <Guest92792> Don't know
[00:28] <teorrr> clickme, i care about the ubuntu partition...which had 45G files and now it saws to have a few mb ...im in a live cd and i dont know if i can recover the recently deleted files
[00:28] <Diane> horray now it worked!
[00:28] <Diane> where did i just add that gateway? t which file?
[00:28] <Guest92792> I'm usually on windows and kind of newb on linux systems =X
[00:28] <mrman> clickme: what do you mean?
[00:28] <mrman> its giving me a warning: Unable to find mount point
[00:28] <clickme> mrman: if your on the live cd and you only cd a few megs then your files are probably gone
[00:29] <GSwindle76> still nothing i purged the client and server and and i still time out
[00:29] <Typos_King> Guest92792:      how do you know k3b isn't seeing the cd?   does it say no drive.. or drive not found?
[00:29] <clickme> Guest92792: you run kb3'
[00:29] <Guest92792> k3 b itself doesn't run=X
[00:29] <mrman> clickme: do you mean if im running from the live cd right now? because im not, im dual booted with win
[00:29] <Typos_King> hehe
[00:29] <Guest92792> clicked on it nothign happened
[00:29] <mrman> clickme: but on ubuntu right now :P
[00:29] <tuxuser> Diane: I'd try to remove the network line...
[00:30] <clickme> mrman: use the live cd
[00:30] <Diane> apt-kk thanks!
[00:30] <mrman> clickme: boot from the live cd?
[00:30] <clickme> mrman: before you do, you know about partitions
[00:30] <mrman> yes
[00:31] <Guest92792> error
[00:31] <mrman> clickme: yes i di
[00:31] <nikin> exit
[00:31] <mrman> *do
[00:31] <Guest92792> KDEInit could not launch 'k3b
[00:31] <nikin> \quit
[00:31] <Typos_King> ohh boy
[00:31] <tuxuser> Diane: you already have a default gateway specified in file interfaces; according to man interfaces, the network line is required for 2.0.x keernels, so I'd start by deleting it and see if would keep the default gateway thing after a reboot..
[00:31] <mrman> meh, ima mess with this tomorrow
[00:31] <clickme> mrman: well if you do know, you should be ok with the live CD if gparted can't see what you are looking for or ubuntu in the live cd then your files are gone, so give that a try
[00:32] <dsnyders> tuxuser, Diane left about a dozen posts ago.
[00:32] <upfwnv03> anyone tried the lucid beta ?
[00:32] <clickme> mrman: did you just install ubuntu
[00:32] <mrman> no, a few weeks ago
[00:32] <tuxuser> dsnyders: thanks, missed that.
[00:32] <clickme> Guest92792: what version
[00:32] <epkugelmass> upfwnv03, i'm trying to try it! but i cant get it running in virtualbox
[00:32] <arand> !lucid | upfwnv03
[00:32] <wad> dmesg shows my drive is seen by the OS (http://pastebin.com/vUYcuE5K), but I can't find it under /proc/partitions. Does anyone know how to make it appear?
[00:32] <Guest92792> um...
[00:32] <Typos_King> Guest92792:     try installing   sudo apt-get install gnomebaker;     maybe that gives you something
[00:33] <mrman> clickme: and gparted is giving me the error, Unable to find mount point
[00:33] <arand> epkugelmass: Try turning off acpi in the options of virtualbox.
[00:33] <clickme> Guest92792: did you just install ubuntu
[00:33] <clickme> mrman: run the live cd and see
[00:33] <Guest92792> or is it maybe possible to install burn programm on 'Wine' and burn a cd from there?
[00:33] <upfwnv03> epkugelmass, just wondering what folks first impressions were.
[00:34] <Guest92792> not I'm using a debian ditrso =X
[00:34] <Typos_King> lol
[00:34] <tuxuser> Guest92792: I'd be surprised if it worked.
[00:34] <dsnyders> Hi all!  How do I sync a palm pilot with thunderbird?
[00:34] <Guest92792> well... it didn't =X
[00:34] <clickme> Guest92792: debian what version
[00:34] <Guest92792> er... don't  know
[00:34] <Guest92792> =X?
[00:35] <clickme> Guest92792: download ubuntu and install that instead
[00:35] <LtHummus> !nvidia
[00:35] <Guest92792> ok I'll try lol
[00:35] <dsnyders> !version
[00:35] <Guest92792> Don't know if that works out with my dual system =x
[00:35] <tuxuser> Guest92792: prepend your lines with <nickname> to show who you're talikng to!
[00:35] <clickme> Guest92792: we will be here waiting for you Guest92792
[00:36] <Guest92792> how do i prepend my line     +     nicknameslol
[00:36] <Guest92792> with*
[00:36] <Guest92792> and I need to learn to type lmao
[00:36] <resno> does anyone know if ubuntu server has tuner card drivers?
[00:36] <clickme> Guest92792: type a few letter of the person your talking to an hit tab
[00:37] <Guest92792> clickme, testest
[00:37] <dsnyders> Guest92792, type in the first few letters of the name, press tab, and voila... at least with xchat.
[00:37] <Guest92792> ...?
[00:37] <clickme> Guest92792: there we go
[00:37] <Guest92792> dsnyders, clickme: test
[00:37] <tuxuser> Guest92792: ok, you got it now stop :-D
[00:37] <zeleftikam> Help! For no reason, NetworkManager disappeared from my menu bar and it's not listed in the items i can add to it
[00:37] <Guest92792> ok let me   download another ditro
[00:38] <clickme> Guest92792: no go download and install ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[00:38] <clickme> Guest92792: no=now
[00:38] <Guest92792> lol
[00:38] <clickme> Guest92792: we'll b here waiting for you
[00:38] <Typos_King> wait...if no=now; how do we say 'now'? no?
[00:38]  * Typos_King ducks
[00:38] <Guest92792> it;s a iso we all know i can't burn disc LOL
[00:39] <clickme> Typos_King: lol... hey there
[00:39] <zeleftikam> any help for me? :(
[00:39] <Guest92792> clickme, it's a image file and we all know   Ican't burn burn any cd's
[00:40] <Guest92792> =X
[00:40] <tuxuser> zeleftikam: try typing nm-applet in a terminal window
[00:40] <clickme> Guest92792: yeah, how did you do this one
[00:40] <Typos_King> zeleftikam:....yeah... add 'nm-applet' from the choices, or run it manually :)
[00:40] <zeleftikam> ** (nm-applet:2039): WARNING **: <WARN>  request_name(): Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken.  Return: 3
[00:40] <Guest92792> clickme, what do you mena?
[00:40] <Guest92792> mean?//
[00:40] <histo> Guest92792: are you still trying to get ubuntu on usb?
[00:40] <Guest92792> yes or disc
[00:41] <histo> !usb | Guest92792
[00:41] <Guest92792> since nothing really works lol
[00:41] <zeleftikam> nm-applet isn't a choice in the list of applets that can go on the panel
[00:41] <histo> Guest92792: click on the second link for persistent live usb install
[00:41] <tuxuser> zeleftikam: killall nm-applet && nm-applet
[00:41] <Guest92792> should have got a ubuntu distro instead of a debian distro lol
[00:41] <Typos_King> zeleftikam:    sounds like some instance issues...... check your running processes, and try to kill any instances of it, before reruning it
[00:42] <Guest92792> histo, !usb doesn't work on machine =X
[00:42] <midkniht>  zündelt, blubbort, schnaggelt
[00:42] <zeleftikam> tux: killall nm-applet && nm-applet hangs.
[00:42] <Guest92792> os I mean
[00:42] <midkniht> whats that mean?
[00:42] <PeterT> is there a way to create a user and restrict them to /home/user?
[00:42] <histo> Guest92792: well if usb doesn't work then what are you trying to do?
[00:42] <Neezer> so I set up webmin on my server, and I was able to log in from my server. Now I want to try to log in from outside of my network. How do I do that?
[00:42] <Guest92792> burn it on a disc?
[00:42] <zeleftikam> tuxuser ^
[00:42] <resno> Neezer: adjust router to allow access
[00:43] <Guest92792> histo, burn it on a disc?
[00:43] <dabid> some1 told me 2 do cd / rm -r * as maintenance
[00:43] <tuxuser> zeleftikam: px ax|grep applet
[00:43] <histo> Guest92792: then download ubuntu from ubuntu.com and burn it to disc
[00:43] <Neezer> resno, forward a port to the server?
[00:43] <digitalfiz> zeleftikam, hangs or runs? the prompy probably wont go away unless you use &
[00:43] <histo> Guest92792: you download the iso and burn it.
[00:43] <resno> Neezer: yep
[00:43] <digitalfiz> prompt
[00:43] <histo> !install | Guest92792
[00:43] <dabid> @lart
[00:43] <dmfrey> Hey everyone
[00:43] <zeleftikam> tuxuser, px: command not found
[00:43] <clickme> histo: his distro[debian] is giving him problems with the burning app
[00:43] <Guest92792> histo, can't burn disc on my distro somehow lol
[00:43] <tuxuser> zeleftikam: sorry, meant ps
[00:43] <Neezer> resno, do you know what port it is? and will it interfere with my ssh port forwarding?
[00:43] <dmfrey> ugraded to lucid beta 1 today
[00:44] <dabid> ubottu
[00:44] <dabid> @lart
[00:44] <PeterT> is there a way to create a user and restrict them to /home/user?
[00:44] <dabid> @lart
[00:44] <FloodBot2> dabid: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:44] <dabid> @lart
[00:44] <PeterT> !lart
[00:44] <dmfrey> gnome-panel is running at around 90% cpu
[00:44] <resno> Neezer: i suppose port 80. ssh uses a different port. no problem
[00:44] <histo> Guest92792: open a terminal and use cdrecord
[00:44] <dabid> huh
[00:44] <dmfrey> any ideas on fixing?
[00:44] <Guest92792> histo, k3 doesn't work and with brasero i can't find my cdrw burner
[00:44] <zeleftikam> tuxuser, it's not on the list of things that came up
[00:44] <upfwnv03> PeterT, could put them in a restricted shell.
[00:44] <dabid> how do i lart then?
[00:44] <zeleftikam> sysrqalt, hi from uw campus madison wisconsin lol
[00:44] <histo> Guest92792: just open a terminal and cdrecord nameofiso.iso
[00:44] <resno> does anyone know if ubuntu server has tuner card drivers?
[00:44] <PeterT> upfwnv03: what command would that be?
[00:45] <dabid> like @lart
[00:45] <tuxuser> zeleftikam: if you type nm-applet in a terminal, do you see it appearing where it used to be ?
[00:45] <histo> resno: yes I believe ivtv loads as part of the kernel
[00:45] <Guest92792> histo, this is what i get
[00:45] <clickme> Guest92792: best option as i see it is installing windows lol
[00:45] <Guest92792> histo, he program 'cdrecord' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[00:45] <Guest92792> apt-get install wodim
[00:45] <Guest92792> bash: cdrecord: command not found
[00:45] <histo> resno: server is jsut a different kernel with pae etc..
[00:45] <histo> Guest92792: sudo apt-get install wodim
[00:45] <Guest92792> yea damn virusses xd
[00:45] <zeleftikam> tuxuser, no. nothing happens. doesn't return to the prompt, either
[00:45] <histo> Guest92792: then use cdrecord
[00:45] <zeleftikam> just hangs
[00:45] <Guest92792> on root right now lol
[00:45] <resno> histo: so, i can expect the drivers to be there? i am trying to install mythtv there, and it would make install easier :)
[00:45] <histo> Guest92792: okay well jsut apt-get install wodim then
[00:45] <giacomo_c> when i try to install ubuntu to my laptop, the screen just ends up going bright white and doesn't change.  does anyone know what settings i should change for the install/
[00:46] <Guest92792> doesn't work
[00:46] <dabid> @lart digitalfiz
[00:46] <histo> resno: yeah an easier way would be to check out mythbuntu
[00:46] <Guest92792> histo,  It dosn't wrk
[00:46] <histo> Guest92792: what distro are you running
[00:46] <digitalfiz> wtf is lart?
[00:46] <airtonix> !language
[00:46] <histo> Guest92792: and are you connected to the internet on it?
[00:46] <Guest92792> debian based soemthing?...?
[00:46] <dabid> where's the luser attitude readjustment tool
[00:46] <Guest92792> yes lol
[00:46] <zbrahead91-dedi> Heylo
[00:46] <resno> histo: true, but i want a fileserver to do it, plus be headless, etc. so mythbunutu is a bit overkill
[00:46] <histo> Guest92792: you can't install packages at all?
[00:47] <Guest92792> how the hell would i get in this chat anyways xd?
[00:47] <Guest92792> I can lol
[00:47] <Guest92792> some of them lmao
[00:47] <histo> resno: oh well then just install samba for the file server portion and ssh for headless
[00:47] <histo> resno: I beilieve you will need a X environment for myth frontend to run on it.
[00:47] <dabid> where'd lart go?
[00:47] <histo> Guest92792: what is the error when you tryu to install wodim?
[00:47] <resno> histo: oh, yea. i already got that set up with x forwarding. justs curious about tuner cards
[00:47] <Guest92792> histo, i can but soemtimes it doen't work
[00:47] <dabid> as in the luser attitude readjustment too
[00:47] <dabid> l
[00:48] <Guest92792> histo, this+>>>eading package lists... Done
[00:48] <Guest92792> Building dependency tree
[00:48] <Guest92792> Reading state information... Done
[00:48] <Guest92792> wodim is already the newest version.
[00:48] <Guest92792> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[00:48] <FloodBot2> Guest92792: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:48] <Guest92792> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[00:48] <clickme> my firefox browser is not displaying CLOSE, MINIMIZE, MAXIMINIZE options. is not even accepting compiz wobbly effects, i also tried a complete removal and it didn't work
[00:48] <zeleftikam> tuxuser, sooo... any ideas from here?
[00:48] <dsnyders> Hi all!  How do I sync a palm pilot with thunderbird?
[00:48] <zbrahead91-dedi> Anyone know how to convert a patched git ubuntu kernel into a debian source package
[00:48] <histo> Guest92792: well wodim is there so you can't use cdrecord?
[00:49] <soreau> clickme: Try F11 on the firefox window?
[00:49] <Guest92792> nope...=X
[00:49] <Guest92792> histo, nope =X
[00:49] <histo> Guest92792: you may want to try to get support with whatever distro you are running to figure otu whats wrong with your packages
[00:50] <zeleftikam> help: networkmanager applet won't run
[00:50] <tuxuser> zeleftikam: I was searching for some settings to clear in .gnome or .gnome2 but nothing found... may I suggest a logout or evena reboot :-P
[00:50] <histo> Guest92792: apt-get -f install is saying there there are some issues witht he installed packages you can try doing that but its risky
[00:50] <zeleftikam> tuxuser, tried that, twice
[00:50] <zeleftikam> tuxuser, i also tried removing and reinstalling the package
[00:50] <Guest92792> histo, yea kinda =/
[00:50] <histo> Guest92792: what happens when you right click on the iso and select burn to disc
[00:50] <histo> Guest92792: or write to disk sorry
[00:51] <zeleftikam> something ALWAYS breaks when the laptop dies in hibernation
[00:51] <zeleftikam> usually the wireless
[00:51] <stercor> I 'sudo apt-get install vuze' to install vuze.  When I issue 'vuze' from the command line I'm rewarded(?) with the message: "Oh no! You are using a version of Vuze that is no longer supported." and invites me to upgrade.  What to do?
[00:51] <NaturalLaw> anyone have a good way to keep your channel up and running wile your loged out. Been about 15 years since i used irc
[00:51] <tuxuser> zeleftikam: you mean suspend, right ? It can't die in hibernation since it's actually turned off.
[00:51] <Guest92792> histo, it gives me some options
[00:51]  * psusi is so bloody confused... I'm benchmarking dump vs tar to backup a fs... when sending the output to /dev/null, tar takes like 15 seconds, dump takes 1m45s... but when outputting to another partition on the same disk, dump is faster... it makes no sense!
[00:52] <histo> Guest92792: and can you write the cd then?
[00:52] <zeleftikam> tuxuser, maybe, i can't remember what mode it was in when i left it
[00:52] <Guest92792> histo, like open , open with , properties etc
[00:52] <histo> NaturalLaw: you want a bot
[00:52] <stercor> I don't know whether upgrading ... no, I'm sure it'll mess up the program database.
[00:52] <zbrahead91-dedi> psusi: perhaps some corners are cut :P
[00:52] <Guest92792> histo,  nope =X
[00:52] <histo> NaturalLaw: or nickserv might have some options for you try askign in #help
[00:52] <NaturalLaw> yeah i thought of that but i guess you need permission
[00:52] <tuxuser> zeleftikam: I'm sorry I out of ideas.. :-(
[00:52] <NaturalLaw> thanks
[00:52] <zeleftikam> ok
[00:52] <zeleftikam> thanks for trying
[00:53] <giacomo_c> anyone know what vga options i need to set to install ubuntu on a laptop?
[00:53] <tuxuser> zeleftikam: :-)
[00:53] <Guest92792> histo, somehow my Os doesn't load my cd/dvd/ burners
[00:53] <histo> Guest92792: What OS?
[00:53] <Guest92792> debian based don't which 1
[00:53] <Guest92792> know*
[00:53] <histo> Guest92792: try cat /etc/issue in a terminal
[00:53] <tuxuser> giacomo_c: have you tried safe mode or even text mode install ?
[00:54] <dsnyders> !version>Guest92792
[00:54] <histo> Guest92792: also you could look in /etc/apt/sources.list for some more info
[00:54] <geoff918> Can anyone answer this question?:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9006250&posted=1#post9006250
[00:54] <Guest92792> dsnyders, bash: !version: event not found
[00:54] <tuxuser> NaturalLaw: have a look at Quassel IRC. I'm using it right now in client only mode but I think it's got a server component that acts like screen for consolle access.
[00:55] <Guest92792> histo, ok ill try that
[00:55] <NaturalLaw> Not herd of it yet
[00:55] <NaturalLaw> using konversation at the moment is quassel a bot or irc program?
[00:55] <dsnyders> !version
[00:55] <histo> geoff918: you could get one of those atom based systems like 6watts
[00:56] <tuxuser> NaturalLaw: normal irc program (gui, kde)
[00:56] <histo> geoff918: but as far as kernel it doesn't matter for power consumption both use acpi
[00:56] <NaturalLaw> thanks
[00:56] <Guest92792> histo,  it gives me a website  lol
[00:56] <tuxuser> NaturalLaw: :-)
[00:56] <dsnyders> Guest92792, you need to type in lsb_release -a   not !version
[00:56] <histo> dsnyders: he's not sure what off take of debian based system he is running
[00:56] <sensae> I can't get banshee to detect my fifth-generation iPod
[00:57] <Guest92792> histo, lol wtf i do have ubunto o.o
[00:57] <Guest92792> histo, No LSB modules are available.
[00:57] <Guest92792> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[00:57] <Guest92792> Description:    Ubuntu 8.10
[00:57] <Guest92792> Release:        8.10
[00:57] <Guest92792> Codename:       intrepid
[00:57] <FloodBot2> Guest92792: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:57] <geoff918> histo: That's what I've been told. I have a dual AMD 64 core. Would there be an appreciable difference in the kernel if I would choose desktop or server? Would one be more power efficient than the other?
[00:57] <upfwnv03> PeterT you could try rssh
[00:57] <Guest92792> histo, thought Ihad debian lol
[00:57] <clickme> my firefox browser is not displaying CLOSE, MINIMIZE, MAXIMINIZE options. is not even accepting compiz wobbly effects, i also tried a complete removal and it didn't work, and is not f11
[00:58] <PeterT> upfwnv03: what's that?
[00:58] <histo> geoff918: not that I know of the only difference i've seen is pae support which is more than 4gb of ram. They are phasing out the server kernel anyways
[00:58] <histo> geoff918: i thought
[00:58] <geoff918> clickme: alt-f2 gconf-editor
[00:58] <clickme> geoff918: ok
[00:58] <geoff918> clickme: I don't know the specific setting, but I'm going to bet that it's in there
[00:59] <upfwnv03> PeterT, restricted shell. A restricted shell is a Unix shell that has been modified to allow the Unix shell user to do fewer things than a normal shell would allow him to do. Restricted shells allow you to control the user’s environment allowing only specific admin-aproved commands.
[00:59] <Guest92792> clickme, histro do you guys know how I load my cd/dvd drives?
[00:59] <clickme> geoff918: i want to install it
[00:59] <clickme> geoff918: fresh install
[00:59] <dsnyders> Guest92792, What cd/dvd drive do you have?
[01:00] <PeterT> upfwnv03: where can I install this?
[01:00] <Guest92792> dsnyders, cd/dvd rw don't know which 1
[01:00] <clickme> Guest92792: how did you get debian on that system
[01:00] <geoff918> clickme: maybe delete .mozilla from your home directory? just a guess...
[01:00] <histo> Guest92792: they should just be working. but you are having issues with the packages you ahve installed etc.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:00] <histo> clickme: he's saying he has ubuntu now 8.10
[01:00] <Guest92792> histo,  ok
[01:00] <clickme> geoff918: i thought a complete remove would do that
[01:01] <Guest92792> clickme, I thought i had debian but it is ubuntu   instead
[01:01] <tuxuser> geoff918: I think cpufreq-selector or something along the lines could make a difference wether you're running server or client kernel...
[01:01] <clickme> Guest92792: nice
[01:01] <geoff918> clickme: depends on how it's done. What I've found is that a purge won't necessarily remove all the custom settings--just the binaries
[01:01] <Guest92792> clickme, butthose burning programs still don't work
[01:01] <tuxuser> geoff918: I mean if you run cpu always in full freq mode or on deman strategy it should make a visible difference in power consuption
[01:01] <histo> tuxuser: geoff918 isnt' that part of acpi though?  I had a server I just set up and it still had acpi installed which caused problems withthe older bios I hade.
[01:02] <clickme> Guest92792: do you still have the old disk
[01:02] <histo> Guest92792: first you need to fix the paackage errors because if wodim is installed you should be able to just use that.
[01:02] <tuxuser> histo: I belive acpi must be enabled to allow cpu freq scaling. Not 100% sure though.
[01:02] <histo> Guest92792: wodim -f isoblah.iso
[01:02] <tuxuser> histo: I've seen also acpi as a major source of problems with older bioses due to them being broken wrt acpi support...
[01:03] <histo> tuxuser: yes but acpi works ont he server kernel
[01:03] <clickme> geoff918: complete removal in synaptics is the same thing as purge in the termial
[01:03] <Lonely-Troll> Hello
[01:03] <Guest92792> clickme, old disc?
[01:03] <Guest92792> histo, hmm
[01:03] <histo> geoff918: the only thing you are goign to see different is pre-empt used to be an option and pae which is more than 4gigs of ram supported
[01:04] <clickme> Guest92792: how did you install ubuntu
[01:04] <HaVoK-69> Hey could someone give me some guidance by any chance?
[01:04] <histo> Guest92792: that will be able to write a cd.
[01:04] <Guest92792> clickme, with a disc
[01:04] <Lonely-Troll> HaVoK-69 Google?
[01:04] <histo> !ask | HaVoK-69
[01:04] <tuxuser> histo: cat /proc/cpuinfo watch for model name cpu freq and cpu MHz value...
[01:04] <Guest92792> high-rez, nope that didn't worked
[01:04] <roma> Hi. I got UNR and when I run nautilus my desktop doesn't show but instead a window opens with my home folder.
[01:04] <histo> !google > Lonely-Troll
[01:04] <roma> As in, no desktop icons.
[01:04] <HaVoK-69> google didn't help xD
[01:04] <Guest92792> histo, nope that didn't work
[01:05] <Lonely-Troll> !google > histo
[01:05] <histo> tuxuser: I'm not asking a question I'm explaining that server kernel and regular kernel doesn't matter
[01:05] <Flannel> Lonely-Troll: Please don't do that
[01:05] <tuxuser> histo: Sorry, I thought you were the one asking :-P
[01:05] <Lonely-Troll> Flannel Do what?
[01:05] <roma> Any advice?
[01:05] <histo> tuxuser: no geo guy was asking the differenc ein kernels
[01:05] <Lonely-Troll> roma ROma!!!
[01:05] <histo> oh man
[01:05] <roma> Lonely-Troll: Yes?
[01:06] <tuxuser> histo: =:-)
[01:06] <Lonely-Troll> roma Were are you from?
[01:06] <roma> Lonely-Troll: Russia. I need help with Ubuntu though.
[01:06] <Flannel> Lonely-Troll: This channel isn't a chat channel, please take it elsewhere.
[01:06] <Lonely-Troll> roma I am to from Russia
[01:06] <dannnnnn> hey hey ; anyone know if it possible to configure apache to load a single name based virtual host, and default the rest to a single directory/
[01:06] <roma> I got UNR and when I run nautilus my desktop doesn't show but instead a window opens with my home folder.
[01:07] <Lonely-Troll> roma But I know nothing about ubuntu
[01:07] <Flannel> Lonely-Troll: Please help keep this channel ontopic, thanks.  This is not a social channel.
[01:07] <cm> anyone know how to set up RPCs
[01:07] <roma> Would anyone know what's going on?
[01:07] <Lonely-Troll> Flannel So, find me a social channel with a lot of kind people
[01:08] <roma> Lonely-Troll: #defocus
[01:08] <dsnyders> Hi all!  How do I sync a palm pilot with thunderbird?
[01:08] <roma> #not-math
[01:08] <Flannel> Lonely-Troll: That's not my responsibility.  You've already been banned from our social channel.
[01:08] <histo> roma: thats all nautilus does
[01:08] <histo> roma: its a file browser basically when you run it.
[01:08] <roma> histo: Nautilus also renders the desktop.
[01:08] <Lonely-Troll> Flannel So, you know the true..
[01:08] <histo> !palm > dsnyders
[01:09] <Lonely-Troll> Flannel That’s why I could keep your advices to yourself
[01:09] <histo> roma: correct but not on UNR they use some sort of desktop ontop of gnome
[01:09] <roma> histo: Right; netbook-launcher. I killed that process and it no longer starts up. I want nautilus to render my desktop.
[01:10] <Flannel> Lonely-Troll: Just don't be offtopic here, that's it.
[01:10] <histo> roma: so you want to go from unr session just to a normal gnome desktop?
[01:10] <roma> histo: I'm halfway done.
[01:10] <roma> histo: I stopped netbook-launcher from starting up.
[01:10] <Lonely-Troll> Flannel But I know NOTHING about ubuntu, so how I could stay on topic??? O_____j
[01:11] <roma> Lonely-Troll: So either install it and ask for help, or leave.
[01:11] <roma> Spasibo.
[01:11] <Lonely-Troll> roma	#not-math It doesn't works
[01:11] <histo> Flannel: he's even being mentioned in #help he's just trolling
[01:11] <hipitihop> switching user or using guest account just leaves blank screen, can someone help
[01:12] <roma> Now, on to problems.
[01:12] <Guest72443> nick sixtila
[01:12] <roma> How do I make nautilus render the desktop?
[01:12] <histo> roma: hold up i'm reading
[01:12] <nightsjammies> troll, go to help.
[01:12] <roma> histo: Thank you! Take your time.
[01:12] <nightsjammies> er, hell, even.
[01:12] <Lonely-Troll> I am alive
[01:13] <roma> Lonely-Troll: You are probably having fun.
[01:13] <roma> But please realize that nobody finds it as amusing as you do.
[01:13] <histo> roma: https://answers.launchpad.net/netbook-remix/+question/90183
[01:13] <roma> You are in essence making the world worse.
[01:13] <histo> !troll | Lonely-Troll
[01:13] <roma> Please stop.
[01:13] <Lonely-Troll> 	!troll | histo
[01:13] <histo> !ops | Lonely-Troll
[01:13] <roma> *Reading.
[01:13] <Lonely-Troll> roma Go away
[01:13] <roma> histo: Reading.,
[01:14] <roma> Lonely-Troll: You will be the one to leave. :)
[01:15] <trinikrono> anyone know about know trinidad and tobago
[01:15] <trinikrono> the country
[01:15] <roma> histo: I already did that.
[01:15] <roma> histo: I'm on to bigger fish.
[01:15] <roma> That doesn't solve my nautilus problem; nor does it solve another problem I have.
[01:15] <upfwnv03> PeterT, this may be more helpful. A restricted shell is used to set up an environment more controlled than the standard shell.Bash shell can be opened in restricted mode. If bash shell is started with the name rbash, or the --restricted or -r option is supplied at invocation, it is opened as a restricted shell.
[01:16] <histo> roma: well if gnome is running nautlis should be managing the desktop
[01:16] <PeterT> upfwnv03: I don't know how that helps me
[01:16] <roma> histo: It is but it isn't displaying a desktop.
[01:16] <roma> I have icons on it, for sure.
[01:16] <PeterT> upfwnv03: so I have to make the person logging in use -r?
[01:16] <histo> roma: the icons are showing up?
[01:16] <roma> histo: No!
[01:16] <histo> roma: do you have conkY?
[01:16] <roma> Negatory.
[01:16] <histo> roma: try metacity --replace
[01:17] <upfwnv03> PeterT, You can’t change directories using cd command. That way your user(s) would be kept to /home/<username>
[01:17] <roma> histo: That's metacity.
[01:17] <histo> roma: see if they show back up
[01:17] <hipitihop> how do I see why switching user just leaves me at blank screen without showing user login
[01:17] <roma> histo: Can I instead run compiz --replace?
[01:17] <upfwnv03> PeterT, I think you would put it in their .bashrc file
[01:17] <histo> roma: Yes but i'm thinking that compiz is causing problems witht he desktop getting rendered like the wallpaper is on top or something goofy
[01:17] <PeterT> upfwnv03: How do I make the bash they connect to restricted?
[01:17] <PeterT> upfwnv03: ok
[01:18] <roma> histo: I ran both; yours first, then mine. Didn't help.
[01:19] <histo> roma: hrm...
[01:19] <upfwnv03> PeterT, here is the link where I found rbash. http://linuxandfriends.com/2008/09/07/bash-restricted-shell/
[01:19] <CTho> "Your system is up-to-date"  "The package information was last updated 3 days ago."   but I have it set to check every day...why is it 3 days old? is there somewhere (e.g. a log) i can check for errors?
[01:19] <dsnyders> histo, Thanks for the pointer re: hooking up a palm.  However, the problem isn't the hooking up, the problems is having a conduit for Thunderbird.
[01:20] <PeterT> thanks upfwnv03
[01:20] <h4ck3rk1ng> hello, i need help with my wifi card. it dosent detect, whgat do i do?
[01:21] <h4ck3rk1ng> can anyone tell me how i can view my internet connection info?
[01:21] <joe_> hi
[01:21] <h4ck3rk1ng> (like the adaptors)
[01:22] <h4ck3rk1ng> ANY1???????????
[01:22] <axisys_> !wifi | h4ck3rk1ng
[01:22] <trinikrono> you using gnome?
[01:22] <histo> dsnyders: i'm checking something now
[01:22] <histo> h4ck3rk1ng: what type of network card
[01:22] <h4ck3rk1ng> i dont know. how do i find out?
[01:22] <histo> dsnyders: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/204745
[01:22] <h4ck3rk1ng> histo- i dont know. how i find out?
[01:23] <h4ck3rk1ng> wats the command???
[01:23] <histo> h4ck3rk1ng: lspci
[01:23] <histo> h4ck3rk1ng: that will show all the devices on the machine look for the network adapterd
[01:23] <h4ck3rk1ng> thanx
[01:23] <acovrig> how do I have a script open in the terminal
[01:23] <histo> dsnyders: you may want to search the forums. to find if someone else has hacked together a way
[01:23] <histo> acovrig: ./scriptname
[01:23] <upfwnv03> PeterT, might I also suggest open a terminal window and use man bash. This will give you a manual page on bash. It is however rather lengthy.
[01:24] <PeterT> upfwnv03: right, I'm on SSH
[01:24] <acovrig> histo, have the script open a terminal window and run something
[01:24] <upfwnv03> PeterT, very good.
[01:24] <nelson_> her@hotmail.com
[01:24] <joe_> hello, in virtualbox session xp i have problems with char @ in the browser. any idea to fix this problem?
[01:24] <h4ck3rk1ng> what is that command again?
[01:24] <h4ck3rk1ng> i forgot it
[01:24] <Gnea> h4ck3rk1ng: lspci
[01:25] <axisys_> lspci -v
[01:25] <h4ck3rk1ng> for the wifi thing
[01:25] <dsnyders> histo, Thanks.
[01:25] <dsnyders> !forum
[01:25] <Gnea> !patience
[01:25] <histo> acovrig: yes go tot he directory where the script is and ./scriptname
[01:25] <histo> acovrig: that basically means run here ./
[01:26] <cecilfso>  hi people, can anyone help me? i have no sound on flash videos in any browser i try... i'm using kubuntu 9.10 on a 32 bit platform.
[01:26] <Gnea> cecilfso: does sound work otherwise?
[01:27] <histo> h4ck3rk1ng: yes lspci
[01:27] <h4ck3rk1ng> thank you
[01:27] <airtonix> cecilfso, remember to ask in #kubuntu
[01:27] <histo> h4ck3rk1ng: also you may want to try to go to system > admin > hardware drivers
[01:27] <cecilfso> Gnea, yes, it is working on amarok and kaffeine, although not on VLC
[01:27] <h4ck3rk1ng> can anyone help me install wifi driver?
[01:27] <Gnea> !wifi | h4ck3rk1ng
[01:27] <histo> h4ck3rk1ng: multiple people are answering you
[01:27] <axisys_> h4ck3rk1ng: u have a laptop or desktop ?
[01:27] <cecilfso> airtonix, the problem is happening at Ubuntu as well, I have both here
[01:28] <h4ck3rk1ng> netbook
[01:28] <h4ck3rk1ng> i have a neetbook.
[01:28] <h4ck3rk1ng> here is my lspci:
[01:28] <histo> !troll | h4ck3rk1ng
[01:28] <Gnea> h4ck3rk1ng: no.
[01:28] <Gnea> !pastebin | h4ck3rk1ng
[01:28] <axisys_> dmesg | grep -i wifi    <-- this gives you anything ?
[01:28] <sensae> I can't get banshee to detect my fifth-generation iPod
[01:28] <axisys_> h4ck3rk1ng: ^
[01:28] <h4ck3rk1ng> i see
[01:29] <h4ck3rk1ng> http://paste.ubuntu.com/399060/
[01:29] <h4ck3rk1ng> here is my paste
[01:29] <h4ck3rk1ng> how do i install wifi for that?
[01:29] <Gnea> cecilfso: perhaps pulseaudio is not setup right?
[01:29] <h4ck3rk1ng> is there a download?
[01:29] <h4ck3rk1ng> http://paste.ubuntu.com/399060/
[01:29] <airtonix> cecilfso, when you right click on the sound icon in the notification tray and look at the applications tab, do you see an entry for the browser ?
[01:29] <h4ck3rk1ng> plz, i need this quicly,
[01:29] <Gnea> h4ck3rk1ng: first of all, read the wifi docs, and stop repeating the paste, we got it the first time.
[01:29] <bigtom21485> i had to disable my software modem driver to get my sound to work
[01:29] <h4ck3rk1ng> ok
[01:29] <h4ck3rk1ng> sry
[01:29] <Gnea> h4ck3rk1ng: if you want it quickly, don't spam. otherwise, we take longer.
[01:29] <h4ck3rk1ng> kk
[01:29] <budah> Hello guys is anyone here using a tv card with ubuntu?
[01:30] <bigtom21485> h4ck3rk1ng: what kind of computer do you have?
[01:30] <airtonix> cecilfso, right click on the soud icon in the notification tray > preferences > applications tab
[01:30] <Brokie> budah, yes
[01:30] <histo> h4ck3rk1ng: I toldyou System > admin > hardware drivers
[01:30] <h4ck3rk1ng> i have a netbook its an hp
[01:30] <h4ck3rk1ng> histo: that does not work
[01:30] <histo> h4ck3rk1ng: it will have the broadcom drivers you need to activiate
[01:30] <h4ck3rk1ng> i need something else
[01:30] <histo> !broadcom | h4ck3rk1ng
[01:30] <histo> h4ck3rk1ng: you have a bcm4312
[01:30] <h4ck3rk1ng> can i bring up that from the shell?
[01:30] <acovrig> histo, didn't open a new window, just got skipped
[01:31] <histo> h4ck3rk1ng: you need your firmware for your driver
[01:31] <h4ck3rk1ng> i dont know.....
[01:31] <h4ck3rk1ng> can i open hardware drivers from she;ll?
[01:31] <bigtom21485> h4ck3rk1ng i have a broadcom in my hp notebook, i connected to the internet via ethernet, then updated ubuntu, then did system-->admin-->hardware drivers and it found what it needed
[01:31] <Gnea> h4ck3rk1ng: why can't you just read the wifi docs on the web?
[01:31] <cecilfso> airtonix, i can't see this... but if you mean the sound at Preferences, I've already tested it... all browsers have the same problem... firefox, opera and seamonkey
[01:31] <h4ck3rk1ng> cuz i dont have tiome....
[01:32] <h4ck3rk1ng> can i bring up hardware drivers from shell?
[01:32] <Gnea> then we don't have time.
[01:32] <bigtom21485> h4ck3rk1ng: i have a broadcom in my hp notebook, i connected to the internet via ethernet, then updated ubuntu, then did system-->admin-->hardware drivers and it found what it needed
[01:32] <histo> h4ck3rk1ng: do you have X running?
[01:32] <cecilfso> Gnea, i've removed pulseaudio in order to set up things right, but nothing happened
[01:32] <h4ck3rk1ng> yes i do
[01:32] <histo> h4ck3rk1ng: jockey-gtk
[01:32] <h4ck3rk1ng> but i NEED to bring it up from the shell
[01:32] <Gnea> cecilfso: hrm, have you checked vlc and such to make sure that it's pointing to the alsa driver?
[01:32] <axisys_> h4ck3rk1ng: check what bigtom21485 told you ..
[01:32] <acovrig> histo, can I say, `gnome-terminal "code to execute"` and have it open a new window and execute that?
[01:33] <Gnea> !patience > h4ck3rk1ng
[01:33] <h4ck3rk1ng> how do i see pm?
[01:33] <h4ck3rk1ng> i did
[01:33] <h4ck3rk1ng> i understand
[01:33] <h4ck3rk1ng> i did not find it on thoes documents
[01:33] <Gnea> that's debatable.
[01:33] <cecilfso> Gnea, yes, I have tried on vlc but there's no sound on whatever i choose... before, it worked when I chose OSS, but not with alsa or anything else
[01:34] <abbey> hey, i'm having a problem running wow via wine, i think it's a video driver issue.  where do i find information about my video drivers in an ubuntu install?
[01:34] <histo> h4ck3rk1ng: if you type jockey-gtk in a terminal it will bring up the hardware driver in X
[01:34] <Gnea> h4ck3rk1ng: have you read this page? please, read it, don't give me a lame excuse again: http://www.linux-netbook.com/
[01:34] <airtonix> ...
[01:34] <acovrig> or "code to execute"|gnome-terminal
[01:35] <bigtom21485> anyone know anything about ubuntu supporting tabletpc's
[01:36] <acovrig> how do I have a script open a new terminal window (from ssh/crontab per say)
[01:37] <Gnea> cecilfso: did you vlc to use alsa specifically, or just default?
[01:37] <coop> anyone else unable to launch ubuntuone? i get a crash everytime..
[01:38] <jandersatl> I'm running 10.04 with kernel 2.6.32-16 generic kernel. Having some issues with invisible mouse pointer. Is it ok to upgrade to the latest stable kernel, 2.6.33.1, even though it doesn't show up with apt-cache search linux-image?
[01:38] <Lonely-Troll> Hello!! I miss you so much...
[01:38] <cecilfso> Gnea, i tried everything at VLC...default configuration, alsa, OSS (which worked before), pulseaudio, etc...
[01:38] <Gnea> Lonely-Troll: please try another channel, kthx
[01:38] <AbortD> has anyone got a ati radeon 3xxx hd series working on karmic without switching kernels
[01:39] <Gnea> cecilfso: okay, and when you choose a different audio output, are you restarting vlc?
[01:39] <acovrig> how do I have a script open a new terminal window (from ssh/crontab per say)
[01:39] <cecilfso> no...
[01:39] <Lonely-Troll> Gnea Back off whit your advises
[01:39] <cecilfso> it was never needed... then i'm not doing it now
[01:39] <Gnea> cecilfso: try switching to alsa, restart vlc, and play from there
[01:39] <Gnea> Lonely-Troll: welcome to /ignore
[01:39] <Guest57602> acovrig: Please restate your question.
[01:40] <cecilfso> ok...
[01:40] <AbortD> no one using a ati driver? and having open gl working with compiz?
[01:41] <cecilfso> Gnea, it didn't work at all
[01:42] <soreau> AbortD: ?
[01:42] <acovrig> can I have a script/ssh/crontab open a new terminal window and execute a script in it?
[01:42] <AbortD> soreau, im trying to get open gl to run properly
[01:42] <clickme> http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7118/firefoxwindowoption.png                      my firefox browser is not displaying CLOSE, MINIMIZE, MAXIMINIZE options. is not even accepting compiz wobbly effects, i also tried a complete removal from synaptics,  sudo aptitude purge firefox, and it didn't work [is not f11]
[01:42] <AbortD> without installing lucids kernel
[01:42] <Lonely-Troll> I am white and soft
[01:43] <Gnea> !ops | Lonely-Troll is ban evading. again.
[01:43] <soreau> AbortD: The only way you could get it working without switching kernels is to use commits before Dec25th '09 for libdrm, mesa and ddx. Since then, there has been an api change, so the latest packages need newer kernel
[01:43] <Lonely-Troll> And I am a child of God
[01:43] <trinikrono> lol
[01:43] <chd> I'm using k9 copy to backup my dvds but I'm running into copyright protection. Can anyone help me out?
[01:44] <AbortD> i couldn't use the ati 10.1 proprietary driver?
[01:44] <h4ck3rk1ng> can any1 give me a link to install the driver for my wifi in my ubuntu
[01:44] <h4ck3rk1ng> ?
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[01:44] <h4ck3rk1ng> i just need a dl link
[01:44] <trinikrono> drinking helps
[01:44] <soreau> AbortD: If you want to use fglrx, that's another matter entirely
[01:44] <maco> elky: good job
[01:45] <h4ck3rk1ng> kick lonely troll
[01:45] <AbortD> i just want opengl to run at it's best performance
[01:45] <zus> what is google talk? if you have a gmail, would that mean ya have google talk as well?
[01:45] <elky> Flannel, thanks, was just about to :)
[01:45] <Gnea> cecilfso: that's weird...
[01:45] <JordanAllen> Hello I have a question, how come I am denied access to my root and Lost+Found folder?
[01:45] <n0greenfx> hey all quick questio how do i convert a .toast to an iso using ubuntu??
[01:45] <clickme> my firefox browser is not displaying CLOSE, MINIMIZE, MAXIMINIZE options. is not even accepting compiz wobbly effects, i also tried a complete removal from synaptics,  sudo aptitude purge firefox, and it didn't work [is not f11] http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7118/firefoxwindowoption.png
[01:45] <soreau> clickme: Try F11 on the firefox window?
[01:45] <Gnea> cecilfso: you're sure your user is authorized to use all audio devices?
[01:46] <clickme> soreau: check the link out
[01:46] <cecilfso> yes, i'm the owner of this desktop computer...
[01:46] <soreau> clickme: So this does not happen when compiz is disabled?
[01:47] <clickme> soreau: didn't try that
[01:47] <bigtom21485> how do i set up my ipod to sync with my ubuntu music folder and continue building a library like i had with windows & itunes?
[01:48] <Gnea> cecilfso: that's not what I meant. if you go to system->admin->users & groups, you can see what access permissions you have there.
[01:48] <soreau> bigtom21485: maybe look into songbird
[01:48] <bigtom21485> thanks :-)
[01:49] <clickme> soreau: still doesn't work
[01:49] <cecilfso> Gnea, hey, i've just fixed VLC...on audio, I chose OSS and the output via soundcard, Ensoniq whatever...
[01:51] <jadakren> bigtom21485, not all ipods are the same btw.. so it helps to mention which type you have and what version of itunes you were using
[01:51] <Gnea> cecilfso: awesome
[01:51] <cecilfso> now i need the sound on youtube...:)
[01:52] <bigtom21485> jadakren: ipod classic 5th gen 120gb
[01:52] <Gnea> heh, not much to suggest there.... it should just work
[01:52] <jadakren> bigtom21485, >>>> and what version of itunes you were using
[01:52] <Gnea> cecilfso: although, where did you install your flash support from?
[01:52] <MrPiracy_> i have karmic installed on an extended partition, can i convert it into a primary?
[01:52] <bigtom21485> jadakren: i dont remember
[01:52] <bigtom21485> the new one
[01:52] <bigtom21485> 9.0 i guess
[01:52] <jadakren> bigtom21485, thats unfortunate
[01:53] <bigtom21485> whys that
[01:53] <dabid> @lart
[01:53] <dabid> @lart ubottu
[01:53] <jadakren> bigtom21485, because now your ipod will onyl work on windows or mac
[01:53]  * AbortD wishes open gl would work on ati
[01:53] <dabid> !lart
[01:53] <melanie_> what the name of the new version of ubuntu?...
[01:54] <bigtom21485> hmmm
[01:54] <bigtom21485> i can use windows to drag my entire library to an external
[01:54] <Ceaerrepe> chatroom of Ubuntu in spanish? "O como se escriba la wea!"
[01:54] <AbortD> !spanish
[01:54] <cecilfso> Gnea, i installed the flash, at first, from the adobe site...then, as it didn't work, from synaptic, flashplugin-installer and nonfree-extrasound...
[01:54] <soreau> clickme: maybe you could ask in one of the specific firefox channels then, like #firefox
[01:55] <Ceaerrepe> AbortD: Thanks = Vale choro
[01:55] <cecilfso> now i have removed these again and I am currently using adobe once more
[01:55] <dabid> #\3
[01:55] <AbortD> np
[01:55] <dabid> cd #<\3
[01:55] <jadakren> bigtom21485, i suggest you look at using floola
[01:55] <DonaldShimoda> hi
[01:55] <melanie_> problem whit wolfenstein et someone can help come see me in private (ubuntu user...for life)
[01:55] <bigtom21485> jadakren: what does floola do? :-)
[01:55] <jadakren> bigtom21485, you'll find out when visit its website
[01:56] <jadakren> http://www.floola.com/home/
[01:56] <DonaldShimoda> i installed by hand a own compiled deb package, how can i avoid it to be removed for aptitude every time i want to install a nother package?
[01:56] <clickme> soreau: ok thnx
[01:56] <Gnea> cecilfso: did you remove the installed version from the adobe site first?
[01:56] <fr3nzy> Is wifi-radar a good alternative for NetworkManager? Are there any other reliable alternatives?
[01:56] <Gnea> fr3nzy: no, wicd is
[01:57] <cecilfso> yes, i did...when i installed the flashplugin on the trminal and from synaptic... amnd vice-versa
[01:57] <fr3nzy> Gnea, thanks. What's wrong with wifi-radar though?
[01:57] <bigtom21485> jadakren: thanks :-)
[01:58] <jadakren> bigtom21485, but i will wanr you allowing itunes 9 to touch your ipod has severely limited your options
[01:58] <swapnap> how to get ubuntu to output to TV
[01:58] <Gnea> fr3nzy: too limited
[01:58] <NaturalLaw> anyone running pcsx2
[01:58] <jadakren> !anyone | NaturalLaw
[01:58] <fr3nzy> Gnea, got it, once again - thanks.
[01:59] <bigtom21485> jadakren: if it doesnt work i can use a windows computer with itunes to copy my library to my external then copy it to my ubuntu computer, then erase my ipod and resync my library from the linux computer using that first program you mentioned, right?
[01:59] <swapnap> sure
[01:59] <Gnea> fr3nzy: cheers
[01:59] <melanie_> wolfenstein player... please come see me in private
[01:59] <melanie_> wolfenstein ennemy territory player... please come see me in private
[01:59] <dsnyders> Breaking Bad Season 3 starting in two minutes.  Gotta go!  By all!
[01:59] <jadakren> bigtom21485, or you could 1) use virtualbox 2) export everything and use rockbox on your ipod isntead (i did this on the 5th gen)
[02:00] <Gnea> !ot | melanie_
[02:00] <h4ck3rk1ng> can anyone help- me
[02:00] <AbortD> can i get any help installing the lucid kernel?
[02:00] <h4ck3rk1ng> i nee dt
[02:00] <swapnap> does anyone/anybody know how can i display ubuntu to output to TV
[02:00] <h4ck3rk1ng> *i need to install wifi, but
[02:00] <Gnea> AbortD: in #ubuntu+1
[02:00] <jadakren> bigtom21485, isntead of rebooting just setup virtualbox to have a windowsxp guest operating system
[02:00] <AbortD> thx
[02:00] <jadakren> !enter | h4ck3rk1ng
[02:00] <Gnea> h4ck3rk1ng: why aren't you using ubuntu netbook remix?
[02:01] <jandersatl> I'm running 10.04 with kernel 2.6.32-16 generic kernel. Having some issues with invisible mouse pointer. Is it ok to upgrade to the latest stable kernel, 2.6.33.1, even though it doesn't show up with apt-cache search linux-image?
[02:01] <NaturalLaw> don't they make a rf out put usb connection at best buy for tv, Not sure about getting it to work on ubunto but you half way thear
[02:01] <Gnea> !10.04 | jandersatl
[02:01] <jadakren> jandersatl, lucid is not supported in the channel yet sorry
[02:01] <bigtom21485> jadakren: my roommate would let me borrow his itunes and windows to do the transfer
[02:01] <jandersatl> oh ok thanks
[02:02] <M3> hey guys, got a question...
[02:02] <asymptote> is there a lucid testing channel?
[02:02] <Gnea> !lucid | asymptote
[02:02] <asymptote> Gnea: that was rather rude
[02:02] <Gnea> asymptote: pardon?
[02:02] <asymptote> you could have just said "no"
[02:02] <chinatang> i have a question for deskfile  for  ubutntu
[02:03] <cecilfso> Gnea, thank you for trying to hlp me, but i have to go... maybe some other time... thanks a lot anyway...bye bye guys
[02:03] <Gnea> asymptote: no, saying 'no' would have been rude, as it would have been false information.
[02:03] <spw> asymptote, the channel is #ubuntu+1...
[02:03] <Gnea> cecilfso: good luck
[02:03] <GSF1200S> can anyone in here install Picard?
[02:03] <cecilfso> thanks :)
[02:04] <M3> in the ubuntu software center... I need a program and everytime I try to download it after finding it, I cannot. there's no download button as there normally is on other machines i'm running ubuntu on, and it says "not available in current data" - can anyone translate?
[02:04] <GSF1200S> I keep getting a python-sip error
[02:04] <GSF1200S> its driving me nuts
[02:04] <chinatang> if i have tree users,root  ,JM,TM,        how  i create .desktopfile   for all users
[02:04] <campassi> anyone have screenshots of 10.04 beta netbook edition?
[02:04] <bigtom21485> jadakren: ive never worked with a tar.gz file what do i do with it?
[02:04] <izmanromli> where can i find php5.3 packages?
[02:04] <izmanromli> i'm using jaunty
 if i have tree users,root  ,JM,TM,        how  i create .desktopfile   for all users
[02:05] <IdleOne> !lucid | campassi
[02:05] <M3> anyone?
 if i have tree users,root  ,JM,TM,        how  i create .desktopfile   for all users
[02:05] <jadakren> bigtom21485, explain. where is the tar ball from  ?
 if i have tree users,root  ,JM,TM,        how  i create .desktopfile   for all users
[02:06] <root__>  if i have tree users,root  ,JM,TM,        how  i create .desktopfile   for all users
[02:06] <jadakren> !repeat | root__
[02:06] <AbortD> can anyone help me install the lucid kernel in karmic
[02:06] <M3> anyone have an anwser to my question?
[02:06] <jadakren> AbortD, lucid is not supported here.
[02:06] <Ademan> what should i do if I "lost" some gnome-panel launchers? A game I was playing with WINE resized my desktop and not all of them fit anymore, now I'm back to my normal resolution, but the launchers didn't come back
[02:06] <jadakren> !anyone > M3
[02:06] <root__> thaks
[02:06] <root__> thanks
[02:06] <M3> ty
[02:06] <AbortD> its not lucid its karmic with a lucid kernel
[02:06] <AbortD> they told me to come here
[02:06] <chd> I'm using k9 copy to backup my dvds but I'm running into copyright protection. Can anyone help me out?
[02:07] <bigtom21485> jadakren: I have the floola-linux.tar.gz file on my desktop, how do i install it now?
[02:07] <jadakren> bigtom21485, tried right clicking it yet ?
[02:07] <Gnea> Ademan: right-click on the bar, and add them again
[02:07] <izmanromli> anyone having issue with dotdeb packages here?
[02:07] <Ademan> AbortD: very risky idea, but you can (i've done this for non kernel packages) enable the lucid sources, upgrade *only* the kernel, then disable the sources
[02:07] <bigtom21485> jadakren: lol my bad
[02:07] <Ademan> Gnea: thanks but these were ones I made myself
[02:07] <M3> nice bot jada, unfortunitly i'm running wIRC (on my palm pre phone) and typing is a pain in the butt
[02:08] <Ademan> I don't have the path to the icon and the executable, and description all memorized for all of them...
[02:08] <AbortD> Ademan, thanks i will try it im trying to fix my ati problems
[02:08] <ChogyDan> AbortD: see my message in +1
[02:08] <jadakren> M3, ? the idea is that you form proper questions and have paitience.
[02:09] <M3> right.
[02:09] <Gnea> Ademan: the system usually has a place for them. if you made them, do you still have them?
[02:09] <jadakren> M3, "anyone" is not a proper question. see !repeat
[02:10] <h4ck3rk1ng> CAN ANYONE HELP ME
[02:10] <h4ck3rk1ng> I NEED HELP WITH WIFI
[02:10] <Gnea> !caps | h4ck3rk1ng
[02:10] <h4ck3rk1ng> no you cant read lowercase
[02:10] <Gnea> h4ck3rk1ng: I told you before what steps to take.
[02:10] <h4ck3rk1ng> it dosent work\
[02:10] <Gnea> h4ck3rk1ng: then you don't really need help.
[02:10] <h4ck3rk1ng> and i need
[02:10] <h4ck3rk1ng> to access it from shell
[02:10] <M3> anyone understand what a "not available in the current data" error means in the Ubuntu software center?
[02:10] <bowserinmario3>  this is kind of odd topic but is there an alternative to etl?
[02:10] <Gnea> h4ck3rk1ng: you need to read the wifi docs website.
[02:10] <h4ck3rk1ng> just whats the command to bring up drivers
[02:11] <Gnea> !wifi | h4ck3rk1ng
[02:11] <Gnea> h4ck3rk1ng: no, read the site.
[02:11] <h4ck3rk1ng> ok
[02:11] <h4ck3rk1ng> bye
[02:11] <xorwhy> I need to find an .deb file for ath5k, a wireless driver that, while old and feature lacking, is stable. I have already blacklisted the unstable driver.
[02:11] <jadakren> h4ck3rk1ng, bye!
[02:11] <h4ck3rk1ng> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[02:11] <bowserinmario3> .j #data
[02:11] <h4ck3rk1ng> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[02:11] <FloodBot2> h4ck3rk1ng: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:11] <jadakren> weee one more for the ignore list!
[02:11] <Gnea> oh he's been on a roll
[02:12] <izmanromli> xorwhy: what is the problem in specific?
[02:12] <quentusrex> Anyone familiar with troubleshooting driver issues?
[02:12] <danzig> does no one know how to search google anymore? :p
[02:13] <M3> no
[02:13] <bigtom21485> jadakren: i got it out of the tar file as a folder
[02:13] <xorwhy> izmanromli: The wireless driver ath9k is not stable on my, and many other wireless cards. Poor performance (weak signal) and disassociation is frequent during file transfers.
[02:13] <jadakren> bigtom21485, and ? tried running the floola file?
[02:13] <Gnea> danzig: I think the more appropriate question would be: does anyone know HOW to search google at all? :)
[02:14] <danzig> true :)
[02:14] <izmanromli> xorwhy: try using a Windows driver
[02:14] <nob0dy> hi all
[02:14] <xorwhy> izmanromli: That's not really, uh how should I put this. Kosher?
[02:14] <quentusrex> https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/347711 That network driver bug has been filed for a year
[02:14] <quentusrex> and has been in 8.10 through 9.10
[02:14] <thestarwolf> I search google... only problem is the pages get outdated so fast and you try and do what they say and it screws up your system...
[02:14] <izmanromli> xorwhy: install ndiswrapper
[02:15] <nob0dy> #MC-crew
[02:15] <xorwhy> izmanromli: I have considered that, however, functionality would be stripped significantly even with success.
[02:15] <bigtom21485> jadakren: where does linux put its programs? (like windows uses "program files")
[02:16] <bigtom21485> jadakren: just so i dont have to put it on my desktop
[02:16] <jadakren> bigtom21485, there is no central place. i'd keep that floola on your ipod
[02:16] <xorwhy> izmanromli: For example, there's probably little hope of passive scanning with a Windows driver.
[02:16] <DasEi> bigtom21485: /usr/bin in default mostly, but can be any place
[02:17] <jadakren> bigtom21485, it does not rely on anything you have installed on your system. which also means that if you grab the windows version of floola and keep that on your ipod alos then you have a portable cross platform method of dealing with your ipod
[02:17] <izmanromli> xorwhy: what ubuntu version do you use now?
[02:17] <jadakren> bigtom21485, but to be honest, i would just dual boot the ipod with rockbox
[02:18] <xorwhy> izmanromli: I believe it's karmic, whatever version Mint 8 lays on top of.
[02:19] <jadakren> bigtom21485, is your 5th gen ipod the 30 or 60/80gb version ?
[02:19] <bigtom21485> jadakren: 120gb
[02:19] <izmanromli> xorwhy: oh, never try it before
[02:19] <izmanromli> xorwhy: when i got problem with atheros, i switch to Windows river
[02:19] <jadakren> bigpresh, is it the one with steel backplate or the newer type that is all plastic ?
[02:20] <nicketynick> the root partition on my ssd drive has been spitting errors in dmesg and remounting itself read only. I keep having to reboot and fsck. Does this mean the drive is about to die?
[02:20] <nicketynick> is there anything I could/should be doing?
[02:20] <DasEi> nicketynick: not sure, did you run a fsck on it ?
[02:20] <jadakren> nicketynick, you mean a part from backing stuff up ?
[02:20] <izmanromli> nicketynick: try to recover your system first
[02:21] <clickme> here can i search for and learn about uninstalling packaged completely
[02:21] <clickme> where can i search for and learn about uninstalling packaged completely
[02:21] <izmanromli> clickme: use synaptic
[02:21] <nicketynick> DasEi: yeah. it put some things in lost and found and said some other things I didn't understand. then it happened again
[02:21] <chd> do they have jdownloader for ubuntu?
[02:21] <nicketynick> jadakren: yes :)
[02:21] <NinoScript> Is there an application switcher for Gnome (or Compiz) that is like the one in MacOSX or Gnome-Shell?
[02:21] <clickme> izmanromli: it doesn't always work
[02:21] <Camion> wtf
[02:22] <bigtom21485> jadakren how do i tell this program to copy everything on my ipod to my ubuntu's music folder?
[02:22] <izmanromli> clickme: what about aptitude purge?
[02:22] <jadakren> bigtom21485, not sure, i havent used an apple product in about 5 years now.
[02:22] <clickme> izmanromli: it didn't work, i want everything including the settings
[02:22] <Camion> FUCK YOU
[02:23] <clickme> wtf
[02:23] <clickme> i thought we were grown ups in here
[02:23] <jadakren> !language
[02:23] <izmanromli> clickme: it should be done with synaptic or command line if you install it via repositories
[02:23] <clickme> izmanromli: it didn't work when i tried it, it still kept the settings
[02:24] <Losha> nicketynick: it's a bad sign. First step, anything you can't live without on that SSD should be backed up *now*...
[02:24] <DasEi> nicketynick: so fsck ended with no error, btw. filesystem was repaired and now you're getting errors again ? can you paste dmesg ?
[02:24] <clickme> Losha: hi :p
[02:24] <izmanromli> clickme: did you install it from a source?
[02:24] <DasEi> nicketynick: dmesg > dmesg.txt
[02:24] <rkvirani> I re-installed windows via my computers recoverdisks but grub still shows up and now the computer is bricked, what do I do?
[02:24] <Losha> clickme: hi!
[02:24] <clickme> izmanromli: nope, repo
[02:24] <rkvirani> it says grub rescue>
[02:24] <xorwhy> is ath5k included in the generic kernel for karmic? or is ath5k deprecated as of ath9k?
[02:24] <kriebel> clickme: that's on purpose.  there's probably a "dot file" in your home dir
[02:25] <psycho_oreos> xorwhy, no ath5k and ath9k work separately
[02:25] <rkvirani> Does anyone know what to do?
[02:25] <BoondoKlife> rkvirani: Boot with the live cd, format and then reinstall windoes from there.
[02:25] <clickme> kriebel:  i want to learn how to remove everything from a program
[02:25] <rkvirani> I did
[02:25] <rodrigo3n> I have hidden the menubar of the terminal window
[02:25] <rkvirani> I put in my recoverdisks
[02:25] <rodrigo3n> can it be show again?
[02:26] <rodrigo3n> *shown
[02:26] <BoondoKlife> rkvirani: Did you format before that? if so I'm not sure how you have grub still
[02:26] <kriebel> clickme: if it keeps prefs in your home dir, that's normal.  It's a UNIX thing, and you'll just have to figure out how it does it.  What program?
[02:26] <rkvirani> boloon, which liveCD?
[02:26] <rkvirani> the ubuntu livecd?
[02:26] <BoondoKlife> rkvirani: yup
[02:26] <rkvirani> shit
[02:26] <cutie_girl> helloo ppl
[02:26] <rkvirani> I have to wait for another three damn hours
[02:26] <clickme> kriebel: well in this case it was firefox
[02:26] <rkvirani> for the shit to re-recover
[02:26] <rkvirani> I deleted the parittions
[02:26] <cutie_girl> can someone help me?
[02:26] <Roasted> HOLY LANGUAGE
[02:26] <clickme> firefox 3.6 on karmic desktop
[02:26] <nicketynick> DasEi: can't do taht at the moment as the FS is read only :)
[02:26] <rkvirani> that wasnt enough?
[02:26] <kriebel> clickme, you want to uninstall... Firefox?
[02:26] <BoondoKlife> rkvirani: Your windows cd should let you format but if it doesnt and your having issues, that should fix it
[02:26] <onethirtyfive> haha
[02:26] <Roasted> OMG G RATED
[02:27] <nicketynick> DasEi: i think this is the relevant part http://pastebin.com/VseB9suC
[02:27] <cutie_girl> the volume in my laptop running on ubuntu is too low
[02:27] <rkvirani> Recovery disks are not Windows Discs
[02:27] <xorwhy> psycho_oreos: ath9k is loaded automatically for my device. How would I go about causing ath5k to load instead? I have already blacklisted ath5k.
[02:27] <DasEi> nicketynick: have you got a live cd ?
[02:27] <cutie_girl> how can I raise it up?
[02:27] <BoondoKlife> rkvirani: yup if you deleted and created the partition then grub should not be there.
[02:27] <clickme> i had a problem with it
[02:27] <kriebel> clickme: terminal, run `rm -r .mozilla/firefox
[02:27] <rkvirani> BoondoKlife, I think its in the MBR
[02:27] <rkvirani> or MBS
[02:27] <BoondoKlife> rkvirani: ehh recovery windoes either way it will install windows.
[02:28] <bigtom21485> jadakren: good thin gi keep a backed-up copy of my music somewhere else because floola just flipped out and erased my entire library
[02:28] <bigtom21485> fucking great
[02:28] <cutie_girl> ok, no one cares.. thanks ;)
[02:28] <psycho_oreos> xorwhy, you're misunderstanding the whole point of ath9k and ath5k.. ath9k are for atheros chipsets that has 802.11n capability. ath5k are for atheros chipsets that don't have 802.11n capability
[02:28] <Losha> nicketynick: an occasional fsck, if the system didn't go down cleanly, is to be expected. But if it persists or recurs, then that usually means your disk is bad...
[02:28] <clickme> kriebel: are they fixing this kind of stuff
[02:28] <xorwhy> psycho_oreos: ath9k performs pooly, ath5k does not. I do not need n functionality, I need functionality.
[02:29] <clickme> kriebel: in future ubuntu releases
[02:29] <kriebel> clickme: it's not a problem, if you have any understanding of how UNIX programs store your settings
[02:29] <acovrig> why doesn't "gnome-terminal -e "read w" --window --fullscreen --hidemenubar" work?
[02:29] <thestarwolf> Does anyone know why JACK will work with Ardour, but not anything else?
[02:29] <rodrigo3n> I have hidden the menubar of the terminal window
[02:29] <rkvirani> cutie_girl, what is the problem?
[02:29] <rodrigo3n> can it be shown again?
[02:29] <etzerd> Hello all
[02:29] <DasEi> nicketynick: have you got a live cd ?
[02:29] <rkvirani> BoondoKlife, so how do I get rid of grub?
[02:29] <etzerd> I finally found the solution for my Dell i5 1764 video card
[02:29] <kriebel> rodrigo3n, right click in the window, check the box
[02:29] <psycho_oreos> xorwhy, no, ath5k won't work with a chipset that has 802.11n capability. You might want to try the legacy madwifi driver
[02:30] <acovrig> rodrigo3n, "gnome-terimal --show-menubar"
[02:30] <BoondoKlife> rkvirani: when you restore, it should create the MBR it needs
[02:30] <nicketynick> DasEi: no live cd. no cdrom drive to speak of. it's a netbook. i'd have to get an image and put it on my thumb drive
[02:30] <etzerd> i try the Beta1 version of Ubuntu, it come with the driver for my laptop Intel Integrated video card.
[02:30] <rodrigo3n> acovrig, thnaks
[02:30] <rkvirani> BoondoKlife, well it obviously doesnt so how do I fix it!
[02:30] <rodrigo3n> acovrig, thanks
[02:30] <Gnea> rkvirani: she doesn't know how to use the volume control
[02:30] <acovrig> why doesn't "gnome-terminal -e "read w" --window --fullscreen --hidemenubar" work?
[02:30] <xorwhy> psycho_oreos: Why won't it work?
[02:31] <BoondoKlife> rkvirani: call your oem, restore disks are the pits and tend to be proprietary.
[02:31] <kriebel> if anyone is having trouble with grub failing and getting the "grub recovery>" prompt, there are open bugs on grub2 on the web, search for them
[02:31] <kriebel> you might have to mess with your BIOS drive order or remove drives, or disable AHCI or some such
[02:31] <Gnea> cutie_girl: are you familiar with the alsamixer command?
[02:31] <psycho_oreos> xorwhy, because I've said it before.. read these: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/user/Drivers/ath5k http://wireless.kernel.org/en/user/Drivers/ath9k
[02:31] <thestarwolf> Does any know why JACK control can't work Jack... but Ardour will?
[02:32] <rodrigo3n> is there any way of showing the current running program on the terminal?
[02:32] <kriebel> rodrigo3n, `jobs`?
[02:32] <izmanromli> anyone having problem with dotdeb repo?
[02:33] <rodrigo3n> kriebel, hmm, like "Terminal - Zsh"
[02:33] <xorwhy> psycho_oreos: are you so sure, that if it were you, having tried everything else would not even bother to try?
[02:33] <Losha> rodrigo3n: ps ax will list all running programs. top will show them interactively...
[02:33] <NinoScript> looking for an "alt-tab" style application switcher, like the one on Gnome-Shell or MacOSX. any recommendations??
[02:33] <bigtom21485> how do i get songbird to add the extension for ipod?
[02:33] <thestarwolf> Nino I thought you could do that with compiz?
[02:33] <acovrig> rodrigo3n, `ps -A|grep "program you are looking for"` for a specific program, say if you are looking for a pid
[02:33] <Losha> xorwhy: I see no debs for ath5k, just http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k
[02:34] <acovrig> why doesn't "gnome-terminal -e "read w" --window --fullscreen --hidemenubar" work?
[02:34] <bigtom21485> jadakren: ipod
[02:34] <psycho_oreos> xorwhy, your issue is simply put 802.11n capable, its probably not matured within karmic and using ath5k will never work because its not coded in
[02:34] <jadakren> bigtom21485, yes?
[02:34] <psycho_oreos> Losha, that driver is integral part of kernel
[02:34] <NinoScript> thestarwolf: If you can, I don't know how… They are mostly great looking window switchers, I want an application switcher
[02:35] <xorwhy> Losha: Thanks
[02:35] <bigtom21485> jadakren: why is the link to download ipod support for songbird not functional?
[02:35] <Losha> psycho_oreos: in that case, I'll shut up, since I obviously don't know what I'm talking about...
[02:35] <NinoScript> thestarwolf: or maybe there's a hard to find option to group windows?
[02:35] <jadakren> bigtom21485, use the songbird ppa instead
[02:35] <Losha> acovrig: on my system, gnome-terminal says --fullscreen is an unknown option. Try it yourself from a terminal...
[02:35] <rodrigo3n> kriebel, no, i meant, show the current running program name on the title bar
[02:35] <al-tabq> does anyone know how to configure DAAP in rhythmbox ? can't find a good howto
[02:35] <DasEi> that will be way to go then, as it's always safer to have the drive fuly unmounted for checks, might be (e2)fsck or testdisk or smartmontools in the deeper
[02:36] <kriebel> rodrigo3n, that's not what you said, at all
[02:36] <jadakren> bigtom21485, https://launchpad.net/~songbird-daily/+archive/ppa
[02:36] <acovrig> oops, I meant full-screen, Losha
[02:36]  * kriebel runs away from the newbs, screaming
[02:36] <DasEi> that will be way to go then, as it's always safer to have the drive fuly unmounted for checks, might be (e2)fsck or testdisk or smartmontools in the deeper, nicketynick
[02:36] <rodrigo3n> kriebel, sorry
[02:36] <bigtom21485> jadakren: what is the songbird ppa?  songbird is very nice, (by the way, excellent suggestion. ;-) )
[02:36] <jadakren> bigtom21485, http://linuxers.org/howto/how-install-software-ubuntu-ppa
[02:36] <rodrigo3n> kriebel, but do you know how to show that?
[02:36] <JordanAllen> How can i view used and available disk space on Xubuntu?
[02:36] <thestarwolf> I have seen a Mac and tried it with Ubuntu... if you can run compiz you can download the compiz settings and check the ring switcher and set it to work
[02:36] <Losha> acovrig: open a terminal and type: gnome-terminal -e "read w" --window --full-screen --hidemenubar   What does it say?
[02:36] <jadakren> bigtom21485, https://launchpad.net/+help/soyuz/ppa-sources-list.html
[02:36] <DasEi> JordanAllen: df -h
[02:37] <acovrig> Losha, nothing, it just blinks the window and goes away
[02:37] <JordanAllen> Df - h?
[02:37] <Losha> acovrig: weird, mine says: Unknown option --hidemenubar
[02:37] <DasEi> JordanAllen: nope, df -h,  enter this in terminal
[02:37] <DasEi> !terminal
[02:37] <acovrig> Losha, I guess I type too fast, --hide-menubar
[02:38] <izmanromli> how can i install php5.3 via repo?
[02:38] <izmanromli> i'm using Jaunty
[02:38] <thestarwolf> Does anyone know anything about getting JACK to work?
[02:38] <Losha> acovrig: that one sort of works for me, I get this huge terminal (and a smaller one behind it). I repeate, have you tried running this from a terminal?
[02:38] <NinoScript> thestarwolf: what I want is to group windows of the same application, like Mac's cmd+tab and Gnome-Shell's alt+tab… I don't think the ring switcher can do that
[02:38] <rkvirani> I re-installed windows via my computers recoverdisks but grub still shows up and now the computer is bricked, what do I do?
[02:39] <acovrig> Losha, I'm putting it in a shell script, and it doesn't work
[02:39] <DasEi> JordanAllen: also can use baobab from meta-package gnome-utils
[02:39] <Losha> acovrig: try it from the command line first...
[02:39] <JordanAllen> Where can I download that at DasEi?
[02:39] <DasEi> JordanAllen: that's a gui-toll (more complicated) then
[02:40] <MrPiracy_> i think i just screwed my ubuntu partition. live cd says it is 400mb used out of 15gb. I am pretty sure it is more than that. Also, it mounts, but no files showing. Is there any way to recover it?
[02:40] <DasEi> JordanAllen: *tool , sudo apt-get install gnome-utils
[02:40] <acovrig> nothing, not any output
[02:40] <NinoScript> thestarwolf: I'm not going for eye-candy, but for usability :)
[02:40] <bigtom21485> jadakren: how do i install it from the ipod update i just downloaded from the songbird website?
[02:40] <BoondoKlife> rkvirani: I think I answered that, we can't support your restore disks. They should install what you had for an MBR when you got the computer.
[02:41] <Losha> acovrig: weird. What happens if you just type gnome-terminal without any args?
[02:41] <acovrig> if I try `gnome-terminal -e "sleep 5; zenity --info" --window --full-screen --hide-menubar` it does that, but if I do -e "sleep 5" (w/out the zenity), it stays there for 5 seconds
[02:41] <acovrig> Losha, it works fine
[02:41] <BoondoKlife> rkvirani: If none of that is working then you need to call your oem and find out whats up, or ask them for a real windoes cd. Good luck with that though.
[02:41] <jadakren> bigtom21485, wouldn't bother with the one from the website. it has problems running on ubuntu. use the ppa instead
[02:42] <bigtom21485> alright
[02:42] <thestarwolf> I know what you mean... I don't know if it will hide all the windows... but have you tried alltray?
[02:42] <Professor_Generi> 208 yay, 183 nay
[02:42] <DasEi> nicketynick: what's the os you're speaking from now ? another ubuntu-sys ?
[02:42] <poagester> i was wondering if anyone can help with wubi install or point me to the right channel
[02:42] <jadakren> !who | thestarwolf
[02:43] <jadakren> NinoScript, have you tried the group plugin for compiz ?
[02:44] <vulc4n0> no yet
[02:44] <Losha> acovrig: good, so your X stuff is all working. Dunno, a bug in gnome-terminal? There are other terminal progs. Does it have to be a gnome-terminal. Try an alternative: eterm, xterm, mlterm, roxterm, terminal.app, wterm, etc...
[02:44] <bigtom21485> jadakren: im kinda confused by the instructions on the website can you wlak me though this? i m kinda stressed out as it is
[02:44] <jadakren> NinoScript, also if you install compizconfig-settings-manager then you'll be able to configure the various window switchers to only switch between windows of the same app
[02:45] <jadakren> bigtom21485, 1) open a terminal 2) type : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:songbird-daily/ppa 3) type : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install songbird
[02:45] <poagester> i was wondering if anyone can help with wubi install or point me to the right channel
[02:45] <NinoScript> jadakren: Yes, I've tried the group plugin, but I do not want to manually grout them, I want them to be grouped becouse they are of the same application, I don't know if it can do that
[02:45] <jadakren> bigtom21485, this is assuming you dont already have songbird installed, which then means you'll need to remove it first'
[02:46] <vulc4n0> what problem do you have using WUBI
[02:46] <jadakren> NinoScript, i think one of the window switcher plugins has seperate keybinds for showing windows of the same app. the scale plugin(expose) does too i think
[02:46] <NinoScript> jadakren: and that's just the opposite of what I am looking, I want to switch to different apps, and get all of it's windows on front
[02:46] <jadakren> NinoScript, ok.
[02:47] <LtHummus> !vi
[02:47] <acovrig> I changed it, I put everything I want in the -e to a script, then put that script in the -e and it works
[02:47] <DasEi> poagester: I'd only not recoomend wubi.. for trial even live cd is more reliable, if you neither want a dualboot or a usb install (stick), I'd recommend virtualbox
[02:47] <acovrig> go gedit and nano
[02:47] <NinoScript> jadakres: It's fun to customize linux :P
[02:47] <Losha> acovrig: very good...
[02:47] <jadakren> NinoScript, are you aware that the scale plugin lets you filter out windows by typing in words when its active ?
[02:47] <acovrig> now, how do I use the cmd-line to log-out a user?
[02:47] <acovrig> (me)
[02:48] <vulc4n0> your right wubi bring a have of GRUB problems
[02:48] <poagester> vulc4no, when i boot into the win boot loader i see the option of ubuntu, after selecting ubuntu i am left at a grub command line. ubuntu is on a separate hdd so i am not quite sure how to point to it or get to that installation
[02:48] <jadakren> NinoScript, that could work for you if your apps are having there window titles prefixed with the app name
[02:48] <Dadud> im having problems running ubuntu on virtual box.. it boots in low graphics mode after i try installing the guest additions
[02:48] <acovrig> nevermind, how do I use rsync with ssh without asking for a passwd?
[02:48] <gbear14275> anyone able to tell me how to fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/399081/
[02:48] <jadakren> Dadud, you've explained the basics... but what is the issue ?
[02:48] <acovrig> ssh-keys evidentily doesn't work :(
[02:48] <DasEi> Dadud: boot in rescue mode, issue : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:49] <jadakren> bigtom21485, is that working for you ?
[02:49] <bigtom21485> yep :-)
[02:49] <NinoScript> jadakren: didn't know that… just tried it, didn't work :P is there an option for that?
[02:49] <Dadud> give me a sec, im kinda multitasking hardcore here and bleh.
[02:49] <linuxcreeper> I'm having trouble  with a wireless mouse/keyboard combo for 9.10 on PS3. Any who can help with that? I tried doing "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-input-synaptic" but it tells me it couldn't find t he package
[02:49] <jadakren> NinoScript, might be i forget
[02:50] <poagester> DasEi, when i try the live disk it claims there is not a live fs to use
[02:50] <acovrig> trying to use rsync
[02:51] <DasEi> acovrig: you will have to set ssh to hot based authentification and make sure the keys are on both machines, it's in /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[02:51] <bigtom21485> jadakren: what is the command-line method of installing (ppa) the ipod add-on for linux 64?
[02:51] <jadakren> NinoScript, actually that wont do waht you want... have a look at Xtile.
[02:51] <bigtom21485> jadakren: if i wasnt so tired i would be studying command-line more
[02:51] <DasEi> acovrig:*host-based
[02:51] <jadakren> bigtom21485, what do you mean by 'ipod addon'
[02:51] <epaphus> Hello all... today I installed ubuntu base only with the minimal CD, and did apt-get install gnome-core gdm human-theme x11-xserver-utils  ... and that automatically installed openoffice.. why ????
[02:52] <acovrig> DasEi, I copied the contents of ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub to the server at ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and it works fine in ssh, but not in automated rsync
[02:52] <nightsjammies> ##apple Cannot send to channel
[02:52] <nightsjammies> how do I fix that?
[02:52] <bigtom21485> well theres no lace on songbird that says "Devices" like i wouldve thought
[02:52] <Andorin> I'm following the Ubuntu wiki's guide to restoring grub after installing Windows on a partition. When I run "sudo grubinstall etc etc etc" I get an error: http://pastebin.com/UMTup4gL
[02:52] <bigtom21485> and its not seeing my ipod that my computer is seeing
[02:52] <DasEi> acovrig: but you told rsync to use ssh with (if other then 22 ) right port ?
[02:53] <NinoScript> jadakren: what's that? :O
[02:53] <linuxcreeper> I'm having trouble  with a wireless mouse/keyboard combo for 9.10 on PS3. Any who can help with that? I tried doing "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-input-synaptic" but it tells me it couldn't find t he package
[02:54] <Richiie> hello i have a question im having trouble installing Utorrent 2.0 under wine anyone have a clue ?
[02:54] <nightsjammies> yeah,  use ktorrent
[02:54] <bigtom21485> jadakren: its not seeing my ipod so dont i need to get the ipod add-on?
[02:54] <xangua> Richiie: use a native torrent app
[02:54] <Richiie> when i open the Utorrent.exe file under wine it just starts but i really wanna install it, is it possible? Just because i have some tweak settings i really dont want to enter every single time im starting Utorrent
[02:54] <nightsjammies> I mean, sorry. That's not a solution. Just better imo
[02:55] <gbear14275> Richiie: deluge :)
[02:55] <Richiie> xangua: yeah but the problem is that Transmissoion etc is banned on big private trackers
[02:55] <bigtom21485> anyone know how to add the ipod add-on for songbird?
[02:55] <jadakren> bigtom21485, i assume so... i dont have an ipod anymore : http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/12
[02:55] <nightsjammies> there's an ipod addon for songbird?
[02:55] <xangua> tnasmission is not the only torrent app
[02:55] <epaphus> why does this in a minimal install end up installing openoffice suite? apt-get install gnome-core gdm human-theme x11-xserver-utils
[02:55] <rkvirani> BoondoKlife, http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/96509133/m/254009228831
[02:56] <xangua> nightsjammies: yes, but appears that doesn't wrk with the latest ipod/iphone
[02:56] <Richiie> xangua: is Deluge good for torrent sites that are private ? for example torrentleech
[02:56] <anev> is there problems with apt-get update for anyone?
[02:56] <bigtom21485> jadakren: what do you use for a portable music player?
[02:56] <anev> i keep getting a "forbidden" error
[02:56] <acovrig> DasEi, I used `rsync -raz --delete --progress --size-only "/home/$USER/*" user@server.ip:/home/$USER`
[02:56] <jadakren> bigtom21485, my netbook.
[02:56] <acovrig> anev, are you root?
[02:56] <linuxcreeper> Can anyone help me with getting the mouse part of a wireless mouse/keyboard combo working in 9.1?
[02:56] <izmanromli> is there any php5.3 repository for Jaunty?
[02:56] <anev> acovrig: of course
[02:56] <bigtom21485> jadakren: lol i need something that fits in an armband
[02:56] <gbear14275> Richiie: transmission isn't banned by any of the trackers I've found... although utorrent has been banned by a couple (new protocol favors utorrent over others)
[02:56] <nightsjammies> then it does me no good. back to lucid and vbox then
[02:57] <anev> acovrig: it's saying IP Forbidden
[02:57] <jadakren> bigtom21485, have you tried using rhythmbox or banshee ?
[02:57] <anev> acovrig: as in error 403
[02:57] <Richiie> gbear14275: ok but is Azureuz (Vuze) good? or is it too bloated?
[02:57] <acovrig> anev, lol, noob mistake, just checking; are you using any special source?
[02:57] <Richiie> gbear14275: i mean its like a community in the tracker lol :P
[02:58] <anev> acovrig: i was using the irish servers but changed to the main respositories but same deal? it's as if all teh servers have banned my ip?
[02:58] <gbear14275> I personally like knowing what is in my torrent applications... so I use open source ones.
[02:58] <acovrig> anev, us.archive.ubuntu.com, security.ubuntu.com is what I use
[02:58] <gbear14275> deluge I have found to be fantastic
[02:59] <anev> acovrig: ill give them a try now and see
[02:59] <gbear14275> only a couple quirks
[02:59] <Richiie> gbear14275: is it possible to tweak Deluge ?
[02:59] <Richiie> gbear14275: speed tweak it
[02:59] <gbear14275> tweak like what?
[02:59] <Richiie> gbear14275: let me show
[02:59] <gbear14275> ok
[02:59] <Andorin> I'm following the Ubuntu wiki's guide to restoring grub after installing Windows on a partition. When I run "sudo grubinstall etc etc etc" I get an error: http://pastebin.com/UMTup4gL
[03:00] <rtscts> anyone know how to enable rts/cts in ubuntu (iwconfig isn't setting it)?
[03:00] <Richiie> gbear14275: like this example for Utorrent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mol2Yae_OQg
[03:00] <gbear14275> Andorin: I ran into a grub issue today
[03:00] <gbear14275> try running grup-update Andorin
[03:00] <acovrig> I used `rsync -raz --delete --progress --size-only "/home/$USER/*" user@server.ip:/home/$USER`, server is ssh/sftp key-gened, I can ssh w/out a password, why doesn't it work?
[03:00] <Joeseph> I just installed ubuntu on a machine via a usb drive.   Now I'm looking to install the ndis package so I can connect to the internet.  However, for that, I have to have the CD to install it from, but I do not have a working cd player in the pc.  What's the best way to get ndiswrapper installed on this cd-less internet-less machine?
[03:00] <kingrayray> hey! can anybody recommend a webcam that works 100% perfect in linux? im tired of trying to get my uvcvideo cam to work lol
[03:00] <Andorin> gbear14275: I'm on a live CD, just so you know.
[03:01] <Losha> Andorin: why sda1, and not /dev/sda ?
[03:01] <anev> acovrig: same deal.. "failed to fetch <url to us repo> error 403 forbidden"
[03:02] <Andorin> Losha: Because I can't read. That fixed it. Thank you. ^^
[03:02] <linuxcreeper> I'm having trouble  with a wireless mouse/keyboard combo for 9.10 on PS3. Any who can help with that? I tried doing "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-input-synaptic" but it tells me it couldn't find t he package
[03:02] <Losha> Andorin: :-). World:0 Losha:2
[03:03] <jadakren> NinoScript, are you using docky by chance ? maybe try that
[03:03] <nightsjammies> I'm partial to the in-screen search function of ktorrent.
[03:03] <acovrig> that's wierd, all my http ones work, but why is it trying to pull from cdrom://?
[03:03] <Losha> acovrig: any error messages?
[03:03] <gbear14275> Richiie: thats possible with any client
[03:03] <anev> acovrig: ugh, figured it out. stale http_proxy environment variable in the session.
[03:03] <jadakren> nightsjammies, ?
[03:03] <anev> acovrig: cheers
[03:03] <rtscts> anyone know how to enable rts/cts in ubuntu (iwconfig isn't setting it)?
[03:03] <nightsjammies> yes?
[03:03] <acovrig> how do I not have it pull from the cdrom:// when doing `apt-get update`?
[03:03] <Joeseph> I'm looking to install the ndiswrapper-common package so I can connect to the internet.  However, for that, I have to have the CD to install it from, but I do not have a working cd player in the pc.  What's the best way to get ndiswrapper installed on this cd-less internet-less machine?
[03:04] <nightsjammies> and how do you guys do that highlite thing with names?
[03:04] <garyga> wergerg
[03:04] <bigtom21485> anyone know how to tell songbird to copy my existing ipod library to my new linux computer that doesnt have any music?
[03:04] <nightsjammies> er, tab search, I mean
[03:04] <bigtom21485> and sync the two in the future
[03:04] <RainSoul> can anyone help with an install
[03:04] <gbear14275> Richiie: why don't you try deluge out and see how you like it
[03:04] <gbear14275> then try out other clients and see how you like them
[03:04] <nightsjammies> not a clue. what firmware are you using in your ipod?
[03:04] <bigtom21485> nightsjammies: how do i tell?
[03:05] <etzerd> is anyone here tried the beta1 yet?
[03:05] <nightsjammies> what kinda ipod are you using?
[03:05] <Losha> acovrig: edit the sources list, there's an option in synaptic, or by hand somewhere under /etc/apt
[03:05] <rtscts> !ask | RainSoul
[03:05] <bigtom21485> 120gb classic 5 gen
[03:05] <bigtom21485> nightsjammies: 120gb classic 5th gen
[03:05] <nightsjammies> umm, go into settings, I think
[03:05] <jadakren> bigtom21485, are you sure its a 5th gen because they only went up to 80gb
[03:05] <acovrig> Losha, would the gui System/Administration/Software Sources do it?
[03:05] <nightsjammies> search for an about screen.
[03:05] <bigtom21485> jadakren: its a classic 120gb
[03:06] <jadakren> bigtom21485, ok so its not a real 5th gen then.
[03:06] <nightsjammies> and gtkpod doesn't work with it?
[03:06] <Losha> acovrig: I think so (I always hand edit). Is there a cdrom option you can untick?
[03:06] <bigtom21485> if i type in my serial number can apple tell me what gen it is?
[03:06] <bigtom21485> or someone else
[03:06] <acovrig> dechecked and removed, but it still does it...
[03:06] <gbear14275> Richiie: how about asking on your favorite trackers what everyone there uses?
[03:06] <gbear14275> then use one of those
[03:06] <poagester> maybe someone can assist me with installing ubuntu with windows xp installed first. i get the following error: unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[03:07] <jadakren> bigtom21485, look at this table : http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodPort#Rockbox_Status
[03:07] <poagester> booting from the live disk
[03:07] <bikcmp> Hello everyone, I said this to #ubuntu-server, but it's dead in there.  I'm trying to setup UEC on my box, but, as always, it doesn't quite work as expected.
[03:07] <Losha> Richiie: it's no big deal. You can change clients later on. Deluge or transmission seem to get good reviews...
[03:07] <bikcmp> http://pastebin.com/VzVUJ2pU
[03:07] <jadakren> bigtom21485, according to that table yours is : 2nd Gen Classic (120GB)
[03:07] <RainSoul> so anyways.......................... i burned UBUNTU 9.10 at 4x speed and booted up. pressed install. Everything seemed to be going fine until it landed on a brownish screen with no icons or writing, the cd rom light stopped blinking, and it stayed that way for almost an hour. i finally rebooted. any ideas what thats about?
[03:07] <NinoScript> jadakren: yes, I'm using docky and gnome-do, but I'm looking for keyboard shortcuts
[03:07] <acovrig> Losha, nevermind, it was the 1st line in /etc/apt/sources.list, lol guess the gui didn't do it
[03:07] <bigtom21485> nightsjammies: it is 2.0.1 PC
[03:07] <bikcmp> RainSoul: Try reburning.
[03:07] <acovrig> anyone know why rsync doesn't use the ssh keys?
[03:08] <nightsjammies> probably.
[03:08] <jadakren> NinoScript, so what you want is for alt_tab to just show apps not windows.
[03:08] <rtscts> anyone know how to enable rts/cts in ubuntu (iwconfig isn't setting it)?
[03:08] <Losha> acovrig: guis. Bah, humbug...
[03:08] <bigtom21485> okay so i have a 120gb 2nd gen classic
[03:08] <bigtom21485> whoops
[03:08] <bigtom21485> doesnt look that old
[03:08] <Losha> bikcmp: so set the EC2_ACCESS_KEY environment variable...
[03:08] <acovrig> Losha, lol - ssh rocks
[03:08] <jadakren> bigtom21485, its alot mroe recent than a 5th gen ipod video :)
[03:08] <RainSoul> im startung to think its the burner i used cuz i tried installing linux mint/puppy AND jolicloud
[03:08] <Losha> acovrig: :-)
[03:08] <NinoScript> jadakren: yes :)
[03:08] <nightsjammies> okay, so have you tried gtkpod?
[03:09] <RainSoul> burner software*
[03:09] <bikcmp> Losha: TO anything specific?
[03:09] <bigtom21485> 1) it thinks its blank (since trying floola it can't see its own 30gb of music library), and 2) my computer doesnt wanna copy the files to the music folder of my home folder
[03:10] <Losha> bikcmp: that'll be in the documentation for euca-create-volume I imagine. I've never heard of it myself...
[03:10] <acovrig> anyone know why rsync doesn't use the ssh keys?
[03:10] <jadakren> bigtom21485, use the repair function of floola
[03:10] <nightsjammies> ahh, okay.
[03:10] <nightsjammies> what about rhythmbox?
[03:10] <rtscts> acovrig: the ssh keys are in ~HOME/.ssh (not in .rsync)
[03:10] <nightsjammies> or itunes 7 in wine?
[03:10] <bigtom21485> ahh...yeah floola flipped out on my computer also im not sure if i trust that is there another way?
[03:10] <bigtom21485> and no itunes either
[03:10] <nightsjammies> why not?
[03:11] <jadakren> bigtom21485, the db file just probably corrupted
[03:11] <nightsjammies> to the no itunes, I mean?
[03:11] <bigtom21485> the whole point is to stay away from windows
[03:11] <epaphus> why does this in a minimal install end up installing openoffice suite? apt-get install gnome-core gdm human-theme x11-xserver-utils
[03:11] <bigtom21485> just to prove a point
[03:11] <Losha> acovrig: my rsync certainly does. Try using e,g, rsync -e 'ssh -l user -i file_path_to_key' ....
[03:11] <bob999> I am using (under Add To Panel...) several instances of Weather Report (gweather?) and one has not updated for a couple of weeks.  I called the weather service, but they can't help until I can tell them from where Weather Report pulls its information.  Any Weather Report gurus here?
[03:11] <nightsjammies> okay.
[03:11] <acovrig> rtscts, I know, but I want to automate rsync, and not have to type in a passwd, I did the ssh-keygen correctly, it works normally, just not for rsync, how do I fix this?
[03:11] <imame> Hello
[03:11] <bigtom21485> jadakren: hwo do i repair it with floola?
[03:11] <jadakren> !who | nightsjammies
[03:11] <ruffleS> hi. how can i add a boot parameter that will last even after updates*
[03:11] <jadakren> bigtom21485, look in the menus
[03:12] <nightsjammies> so...!tab Aciid
[03:12] <chd> so I run sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts and then I get a screen that contains the Sun Operating System Distributor License for Java. but it doesn't let me do fucking anything from there. wtf am I supposed to do?
[03:12] <nightsjammies> hmmno
[03:12] <poagester> maybe someone can assist me with installing ubuntu with windows xp installed first. i get the following error when trying to boot from the live disk: unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[03:12] <GSF1200S> In case you guys didnt know, MusicBrainz Picard is awesome
[03:12] <linuxcreeper> I've been trying to look on the  net, but I can't find how to get my mouse to work  for Ubuntu 9.10 on the PS3
[03:12] <nightsjammies> okay, how do I use that who command?
[03:13] <Losha> poagester: a bad burn on the cd? It's not even getting to first base..
[03:13] <nightsjammies> !tab Aciid
[03:13] <nightsjammies> no
[03:13] <NinoScript> !help
[03:13] <jadakren> nightsjammies, the point is that you should just prefix your messages with your recipents name... you're not the only one in this room having a convo
[03:14] <poagester> Losha: second burn at lowest speed of my burner with the same result. I was able to use wubi and install it that way but it stops a a grub cli
[03:14] <jadakren> !who | nightsjammies
[03:14] <nightsjammies> ah, okay. so how do I use the hightlite thing?
[03:14] <jadakren> nightsjammies, just put their name in the message.
[03:14] <acovrig> Losha, key file path on client, or server?
[03:14] <NinoScript> !tab
[03:14] <nightsjammies> okay.
[03:15] <rtscts> anyone know how to enable rts/cts in ubuntu (iwconfig isn't setting it)?
[03:15] <jadakren> nightsjammies, xchat and irssi both support tab completion.
[03:15] <chd> so I run sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts and then I get a screen that contains the Sun Operating System Distributor License for Java. but it doesn't let me do fucking anything from there. wtf am I supposed to do?
[03:15] <kingrayray> what's the easiest webcam to use with ubuntu? and has anybody got a logitech quickcam pro 5000 working?
[03:15] <jadakren> kingrayray, no.
[03:15] <Losha> acovrig: key file path on the client. You aren't expected to know anything about the details on the server, which could, after all, be a windows machine running some weird-ass sshd server...
[03:15] <rtscts> chd: scroll to the bottom and select accept; it will let you continue
[03:16] <bigtom21485> jadakren: it doesnt work! is there another way?
[03:16] <chd> rtscts, all it says is ok, and I can't select shit
[03:16] <nightsjammies> oh
[03:16] <rtscts> chd: try F8 and enter
[03:16] <jadakren> kingrayray, mainly because 1) i dont have one and 2) "it doesn't work" doesnt really say much as a bug report.
[03:16] <chd> rtscts, k I need to restart
[03:17] <linuxcreeper> Is  there any way to get a wireless mouse/keyboard  combo working on 9.1 or am I going to have to get a separate USB mouse?
[03:17] <kingrayray> well I mean this camera has been a pain in my back for years under linux. I don't know if its just the uvcvideo driver or what, but im shopping for a new one that *does* just work
[03:17] <dsnyders> !ldap
[03:17] <poagester> Losha: will it help more if I tell you it does it with 9.10 and 9.04
[03:17] <bigtom21485> jadakren: floola doesn't repair it when i tell it to, then after says its repaired and its going to quit, it just sits there...i have to force it to quit...and my ipod is still fucked up
[03:18] <jadakren> bigtom21485, there might be if my ipod battery didnt die 3 years after i bought my 5th gen, but since im just operating from 5 year old knowledge through someone that doesnt have a good amount of  experience with linux and apple products... theres only so much i can suggest.
[03:18] <Losha> kingrayray: when I want ubuntu compatible hardware (always) I go to newegg and check the reviews for things that say they work fine with ubuntu. Sometimes an ebay search will help too...
[03:18] <rtscts> anyone know how to enable rts/cts/frag in ubuntu (iwconfig isn't setting it)?
[03:19] <kingrayray> Losha: yeah that's kinda what I've been doing, was just thinking maybe someone had one that worked well and had a quick reccomendation lol
[03:19] <jadakren> bigtom21485, 1) mount the ipod 2) look in the folders for music files. 3) rejoice 4) plug the ipod back in to the windows machine running itunes 5) repair. 6) start over with using banshee or rhythmbox
[03:19] <Losha> poagester: you're saying you can't boot any of 9.10 and 9.04?
[03:19] <bigtom21485> anyone know how to fix an ipod that can't see its own music?
[03:19] <poagester> Losha: that is correct
[03:19] <Losha> kingrayray: bigger sample size with newegg -> more reliable opinions...
[03:20] <kadimi> Hello - Anyone installed OSQA on ubuntu driven server??( OSQA: OS question and answers written with Django)
[03:20] <kingrayray> well I wasn't going to just jump and buy something someone on irc suggested.. obviously
[03:20] <jadakren> bigtom21485, maybe try this in wine : http://www.getsharepod.com/download/
[03:20] <acovrig> Losha, I am using ubuntu for both client and server; I am using a blank passkey for the id_rsa.pub key (for simplicity) and it still asks for a pass
[03:20] <sobczyk> hi, how to properly disable hdd power management?
[03:21] <Losha> poagester: is your cdrom know to work ok in windows (I presume that's how you burned the cds?). Otherwise, if it's not the cdrom, I'd have to guess there's something in your hardware that's incompatible with Ubuntu...
[03:21] <User4434> My Ubuntu is lagging. It has been lagging since i installed it, is there anything i can do about this?
[03:21] <Richiie> gbear14275: did you see the youtube link i sended? :P
[03:21] <bigtom21485> brb
[03:22] <dsnyders> User4434, What do you mean by lagging?
[03:22] <Richiie> on asking if it can be tweaked
[03:22] <Losha> acovrig: if it asks for a pass, it's obviously not finding the key, or the server isn't accepting it. Did you try the -e thing?
[03:22] <poagester> Losha: I burned the disks using k3b on my gentoo box, no problems yet with that burner. I am just not familiar with how ubuntu works. the drives in the box i am trying to install ubuntu on are a little sketchy, because the box isn't mine. I just want to dual boot it and get it out of here
[03:23] <User4434> It is slow, it takes everything a while to load
[03:23] <rtscts> anyone know how to enable rts/cts/frag in ubuntu (iwconfig isn't setting it)?
[03:23] <gbear14275> yes Richiie, looks like setting up of a client... nothing special to utorrent
[03:23] <User4434> The internet and everything is okay. But everything else takes time to load.
[03:23] <chd> rtscts, didn't fuckin work
[03:23] <gbear14275> google "howto setup bittorrent client"
[03:23] <Losha> poagester: I'd try one more time with 8.04. It's the most stable release and uses grub1 while 9.X uses grub2...
[03:24] <acovrig> yup, `rsync -raz --delete --progress --size-only -e 'ssh -l server_user -i /path/to/client/id_rsa.pub/file' "/client/dir/*" user@server.ip:/path/to/server/dir`
[03:24] <rtscts> chd: try open java as an alternative
[03:24] <Losha> chd: please don't use f-bombs,,,
[03:24] <poagester> Losha: k, I wasn't sure if that version was still supported
[03:25] <poagester> Losha: ill give it a shot and be back in a few hours if it doesn't work. thanx for your help
[03:25] <acovrig> poaester, u can download it from their site w/out going to arcive, last I checked
[03:25] <Losha> poagester: sadly, I'll probably still be here...
[03:25] <poagester> Losha: youre like me
[03:25] <acovrig> Losha: yup, `rsync -raz --delete --progress --size-only -e 'ssh -l server_user -i /path/to/client/id_rsa.pub/file' "/client/dir/*" user@server.ip:/path/to/server/dir`
[03:26] <researcher1> yesterday I received a message on Pidgin messenger that my IP is banned on @irc.ubuntu.com. Suddenly it has started now. What may be the reason? I have never broken the standards of chat here .
[03:26] <NinoScript> is there a channel for Gnome-Shell?
[03:26] <Losha> acovrig: what happens?
[03:26] <Umde> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[03:26] <rtscts> researcher: are you on an ISP with dynamic IPs (like SBC)?
[03:26] <dsnyders> researcher1, Unless you have a static ip address anyone could have used that IP and gotten it banned temporarily
[03:27] <Losha> poagester: lots of nerds here. I feel at home...
[03:27] <researcher1> dsnynders:how do I guard myself against such a thing ?
[03:27] <acovrig> Enter passphrase for key '/path/to/client/keyfile':, then user@server.ip's password:
[03:28] <researcher1> acovring: Please explain the step.Im quite new
[03:28] <bigtom21485> anyone know how to repair an ipod that cannot see its own files even when songbird can
[03:28] <acovrig> Losha, Enter passphrase for key '/path/to/client/keyfile':, then user@server.ip's password:
[03:28] <rtscts> anyone know how to enable rts/cts/frag in ubuntu (iwconfig isn't setting it)??
[03:28] <dsnyders> researcher1, Well, you could spring for a static IP from your ISP, or try a disconnect/reconnect to see if you get another ip address.
[03:28] <Losha> researcher1: good question, I don't know how you can prevent such a thing...
[03:29] <Losha> acovrig: that doesn't sound right, I thought there was no passphrase on the key?
[03:29] <NinoScript> Losha: yes,  lots of us are geeks/nerds :P
[03:29] <researcher1> how do i check what IP I get every time I connect.
[03:29] <dsnyders> researcher1, ... or use a proxy.
[03:29] <Umde> !info flashplugin-installer
[03:29] <bigtom21485> jadakren: you there
[03:29] <acovrig> there isn't, if i type ssh user@server.ip, it works fine, no paraphrase or password
[03:29] <researcher1> rtscts:im on dynamic address
[03:29] <Losha> researcher1: how do you connect?
[03:29] <dsnyders> researcher1, I wouldn't worry about it unless it happens a lot.
[03:29] <unop> researcher1,  http://whatismyip.com/
[03:29] <MrPiracy_> my ubuntu partition only shows "lost+found" ... how can i repair this partition?
[03:30] <acovrig> Losha, there isn't, if i type ssh user@server.ip, it works fine, no paraphrase or password
[03:30] <graham> hrllo
[03:30] <graham> can anyone help me?
[03:30] <researcher1> broasdband, govt.connection. through ADSL modem
[03:30] <rtscts> !ask | graham
[03:30] <dsnyders> graham, nobody can help you until you ask your question.  We ain't psychic.
[03:30] <jadakren> bigtom21485, yes
[03:31] <budah> anyone use what.cd?
[03:31] <Losha> acovrig: I've never tried it with rsync, but can you add -v to the ssh command part to get verbose debugging?
[03:31] <graham> ok well I am trying to install ubuntu on my computer. I did the disk check for the CD and the install still failed.
[03:31] <acovrig> Losha, let me get this streight, I run `ssh-keygen -t rsa` on client, copy contents of ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub to `~./ssh/authorized_keys` on the server, right?
[03:31] <bigtom21485> I'm just gunna run itunes for now do you have any other ideas?
[03:31] <bigtom21485> jadakren: im just gunna run itunes for now on wine...is there a better way to do this?
[03:31] <dsnyders> graham, how far did it get?  Were there any error messages?  Any symptoms of trouble?
[03:32] <graham> the error was something along the lines of something was unable tobe found
[03:32] <izmanromli> aptitude still send me 'Size mismatch', how to fix that?
[03:32] <Pokeruler> Quattron.
[03:32] <linuxcreeper> I know I've asked a couple times already, but no one has answered, so here it  is again in case it just got lost in the scrolling.... Can anyone help me with getting a mouse on a wireless mouse/keyboard combo working on 9.1?
[03:32] <jadakren> bigtom21485, yes. use rockbox instead of appleod on your ipod.
[03:33] <jadakren> bigtom21485, appleOS*
[03:33] <Losha> acovrig: yes, but we know that part is working, because you said you can ssh from client to server without having to give a passphrase or password, right? You could try running ssh -v to see what the debug output looks like in the working case, then try it within rsync and compare the debug traces...
[03:33] <linuxcreeper> 9.10*
[03:33] <bigtom21485> jadakren: you mean change the firmware on my ipod?
[03:33] <dsnyders> graham, You said you did the disk check for the CD.  Do you mean you verified your download with md5sum?
[03:34] <graham> no i did the disk check on the disk itself. the md2sum is too hard. i am no good with CMD
[03:34] <jadakren> bigtom21485, yes. rockbox has a windows installer utility. makes it easy. it then means that you just dump music on your ipod like a usb hardrive and dnt need to sync.
[03:34] <linuxcreeper> I get no error messages, the mouse simply does not run. The mouse does,  however, work in  the  petitboot startup menu
[03:34] <melik> syo
[03:34] <jadakren> bigtom21485, you can also dualboot with appleOS and rockbox
[03:34] <acovrig> Losha, verbose at http://pastebin.com/18rKVxUu given "dummys" is my local use and "pub" is my server user
[03:34] <bigtom21485> jadakren: dualboot what? i have linux ubuntu
[03:35] <jadakren> bigtom21485, im talking about your ipod not your computer.
[03:35] <graham> also, there were 5 versions to download via torrent. what's with the amd and i386 and desktop and alternative versions?
[03:35] <bigtom21485> alright i dont have access to windows right now so what are my options
[03:35] <Jordan_U> poagester: There is a known bug with wubi currently, here is the fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/477104/comments/90
[03:35] <bigtom21485> jadakren: i dont have access to windows right now so what are my options for better ipod firmware
[03:35] <Losha> acovrig: that's exactly how it should look. Now try it with rsync and we'll compare...
[03:37] <dsnyders> graham, okay.  md5sum is a tool to verify that the download completed properly.  The various versions are versions that have been tuned/tweaked for different cpus and intended uses.
[03:37] <jadakren> bigtom21485, better is relative term. i used rockbox because it meant i didnt have to use sync software to get music on my ipod. i just used the ipod like a harddrive and rockbox lets you browse the drive like a file manager or it can give gnre/artist/album view too...
[03:37] <acovrig> Losha, what do u mean, rsync --junk -v>pastebin?
[03:37] <jadakren> bigtom21485, http://www.rockbox.org/
[03:37] <jadakren> bigtom21485, http://mikesubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-install-rockbox-and-extras-on.html
[03:38] <jadakren> bigtom21485, ignore those wget steps.
[03:38] <dsnyders> graham, I'd suggest retrying the install, and take note of exactly what the error message is, and then come back and ask.
[03:38] <Losha> acovrig: I mean: `rsync -raz --delete --progress --size-only -e 'ssh -l -v server_user -i /path/to/client/id_rsa.pub/file' "/client/dir/*" user@server.ip:/path/to/server/dir`  <--  note the -v flag to ssh
[03:38] <bigtom21485> jadakren: what if i want a copy of my library on my computer in case my ipod is somewhere else or just in case?
[03:39] <linuxcreeper> Well, I can control  the mouse pointer with my keyboard, but that  isn't q uite what I want...
[03:39] <jadakren> bigtom21485, i did that too... because i had rockbox on the ipod i just used the file manager to move songs across
[03:40] <jadakren> bigtom21485, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility#Download
[03:40] <jadakren> bigtom21485, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/GraphicalInstall
[03:41] <jadakren> bigtom21485, sorry should of read this in more detail : http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodPort. your ipod is not supported.
[03:41] <bigtom21485> jadakren: i see...and i tried itunes in wine it cant even finish installing
[03:41] <linuxcreeper> jadakren: You seem to know a bit. Do you know  how to get mouse  working for  Ubuntu 9.10 on PS3? It's wireless, but not bluetooth
[03:42] <jadakren> bigtom21485, yeah known problem. try restoring it with a windows copy then.
[03:42] <acovrig> Losha, http://pastebin.com/Eqhhmm5C
[03:42] <jadakren> linuxcreeper, it should just be recognised as a ps2 or usb mouse.
[03:42] <bigtom21485> whats the latest version of itunes to run properly on wine?
[03:42] <bigtom21485> thats for anyone in the room
[03:43] <s1gmab3ta> anyone good at openoffice calc spreadsheets?
[03:43] <jadakren> bigtom21485, 7 i think.
[03:43] <linuxcreeper> jadakren: Hm. Well, it's a dual setup, mouse and keyboard off the same wireless connector. The keyboard works fine, but mouse does  not
[03:43] <jadakren> bigtom21485, but the problem is that your ipod has touched version 9 so it wont talk to any other version
[03:43] <s1gmab3ta> i have a scatter plot with y values that go from 0-100 and x values that go from 0-10. but i'd like to see just the Y values from 60-100 (because the rest is empty.) anyone know how to do that
[03:44] <bigtom21485> jadakren: can i hack the firmware to take it back to where it was?
[03:44] <dsnyders> s1gmab3ta, Stand by... checking
[03:44] <jadakren> linuxcreeper, so : [playstation] =[rf connector]  =  ||----1 mouse ||-----2 keyboard
[03:45] <acovrig> Losha, http://pastebin.com/Eqhhmm5C
[03:45] <jadakren> bigtom21485, not sure. thats out of my depth.
[03:45] <Jeeves_Moss> can anyone reccomend a good time lapse program for Ubuntu?
[03:45] <graham> dsnyders: will you be here for a while?
[03:45] <linuxcreeper> jadakren: Yep, that's exactly it
[03:45] <Jeeves_Moss> I need to be able to caputre multipule cams
[03:45] <Losha> acovrig: interesting, see how reading the private key fails at line 33. I wonder if rsync assumes there will always be a passphrase on the key? Nothing to lose at this stage by putting a passphrase on the key I suppose and trying it...
[03:46] <jadakren> linuxcreeper, no chance for mouse and keyboard to have their own dongles? (rf connectors aren't very robust)
[03:46] <linuxcreeper> jadakren: I saw something on some forums that said to try "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-input-synaptic" but terminal said no package found.
[03:46] <linuxcreeper> jadakren: No, unfortunately. They came in a package this way
[03:47] <jadakren> linuxcreeper, it if was me then i would just use a wired usb mouse
[03:47] <izmanromli> is anyone has experience install php5.3 using dotdeb repo?
[03:47] <linuxcreeper> jadakren: they worked just fine like this on 9.04, but with the upgrade to 9.10 the mouse quit.
[03:47] <jadakren> izmanromli, you have a  specific need for 5.3 ?
[03:47] <linuxcreeper> jadakren: yea, I'm guessing I'm just  going to have to. Just need to find one, if  there's one lying around somewhere here
[03:48] <jadakren> linuxcreeper, what does lsusb tell you ?
[03:48] <bigtom21485> alright i dont have access to a computer with windows...great
[03:48] <izmanromli> jadakren: i have some team project based on php5.3
[03:48] <bigtom21485> alright if anyone knows how to repair (or format) an ipod using linux, please tell me
[03:48] <jadakren> izmanromli, what is the php5 version in the ubuntu repos ?
[03:48] <izmanromli> jadakren: it's 5.2
[03:49] <jadakren> izmanromli, ok and 5.3 only comes from dotdeb ? (is it dotdeb and not getdeb?)
[03:49] <izmanromli> jadakren: yes, the only repo i found is dotdeb.org
[03:50] <izmanromli> jadakren: when i tried to install libapache2, it always says error fetching packages
[03:50] <acovrig> Losha, no change, keys fail with "PEM_read_PrivateKey failed" after asking for my passphrase, but ssh works fine by itself :-/
[03:51] <jadakren> izmanromli, im not sure that repo will work with ubuntu... it only has repos for straight debian
[03:51] <jadakren> izmanromli, http://php53.dotdeb.org/dists/
[03:51] <bigtom21485> jadakren: what were some other programs you might reccommend once i fix my ipod?
[03:51] <acovrig> Losha, can I pipe, or something like that for my password?
[03:52] <izmanromli> jadakren: hmmm, i found this http://www.robsearles.com/2009/10/04/installing-php53-on-ubuntu-jaunty/
[03:52] <jadakren> bigtom21485, well since songbird dropped support for ipods it wont be that... but maybe check out the ppa version of banshee
[03:52] <izmanromli> jadakren: but it's not working on my machine
[03:53] <jadakren> izmanromli, what version of ubuntu are you using (it is assumed that people are using 9.10 if they dont say so)
[03:53] <BoondoKlife> bigtom21485: I have an ipod nano 2nd gen and banshee kills it everytime. Rhythembox works though. Atleast that is my experience.
[03:53] <jadakren> BoondoKlife, yeah does rhythmbox need a plugin turned on to work with the ipod ?
[03:53] <linuxcreeper> jadakren: I can't copy and paste what lsusb tells  me, I'm working on a separate laptop here, and  I can't select text in  the terminal on the PS3
[03:53] <BoondoKlife> jadakren: Yes but it is enabled by default
[03:54] <jadakren> linuxcreeper, thats ok, do you see the rf dongle there... does it mention the keyboard and mouse ?
[03:54] <BoondoKlife> jadakren: Err installed and enabled
[03:54] <linuxcreeper> jadakren: No, it does  not.
[03:54] <izmanromli> jadakren: Jaunty, and the tutor i posted is about jaunty
[03:54] <jadakren> BoondoKlife, thought so. bigtom21485 you should check out the ubuntu repo for all the rhythmbox plugins
[03:54] <bigtom21485> jadakren: what were those commands im guessing i just substitue the name banshee instead of songbird in the command lines in the terminal
[03:55] <bigtom21485> alright
[03:55] <BoondoKlife> bigtom21485: Just check under the rhythembox prefs and see if it is there first. It should be
[03:55] <BoondoKlife> I really wish banshee did work though as i like its interface better.
[03:55] <s1gmab3ta> dsnyders: any luck?
[03:56] <bigtom21485> oh rythembox has always worked
[03:56] <dsnyders> s1gmab3ta, Okay, Right click on the axis you want to adjust.  Select object properties.  There is a scale tab.  Everything is defaulted to automatic.  Uncheck the automatic and adjust the ranges as desired.
[03:56] <bigtom21485> but i wanna be able to sync with my computer...so i have a backup copy
[03:56]  * acovrig asleep
[03:57] <s1gmab3ta> dsnyders:  just out of curiosity where did you get that
[03:58] <dsnyders> s1gmab3ta, combination of creating a chart in OOCalc, and google search.
[03:58] <linuxcreeper> jadakren: If I can find it, would installing the CD that came  with the keyboard/mouse possibly help?
[03:58] <s1gmab3ta> dsnyders: oh alright, just checking. the ooo documentation was no help
[03:58] <dsnyders> s1gmab3ta, Were you able to get it to work?
[03:58] <s1gmab3ta> dsnyders: like a charm
[03:58] <jadakren> linuxcreeper, does the cd have ubuntu debs on it ?
[03:59] <izmanromli> jadakren: do you know where i can find php5.3 repo?
[03:59] <linuxcreeper> jadakren: That I do not know. It worked  automatically with 9.04, so I never bothered with the CD
[03:59] <jadakren> izmanromli, no but that page you linked seems to be the way... you didnt say why it didnt work.
[04:00] <linuxcreeper> jadakren: I suppose it's worth a shot though
[04:00] <s1gmab3ta> dsnyders: thanks!
[04:00] <jadakren> linuxcreeper, i would start by taking the machine id of the rf dongle and googleing it against karmic
[04:00] <dsnyders> s1gmab3ta, YW!
[04:00] <izmanromli> jadakren: it always error fetching when i tried to install libapache2
[04:01] <jadakren> izmanromli, "libapache2-mod-php5" you mean ?
[04:01] <izmanromli> jadakren: yes
[04:01] <jadakren> izmanromli, and the error is ?
[04:02] <izmanromli> jadakren: error fetching package from dotdeb ...
[04:04] <jadakren> izmanromli, have you tried compiling it ?
[04:04] <jadakren> izmanromli, i found this which might help you : http://thirdpartycode.com/2009/08/building-php-5-3-packages-on-ubuntu-9-04-jaunty-for-apache-2/
[04:04] <izmanromli> jadakren: not yet, i'll try it now ... thx
[04:05] <jadakren> izmanromli, cant promise anything 1) i skipped jaunty 2) i dont need php5.3
[04:05] <chelz> jadakren: why'd you skip jaunty?
[04:05] <izmanromli> jadakren: that's fine :D
[04:06] <jadakren> chelz, becuase i was fine on intrepid
[04:06] <chelz> jadakren: did you upgrade or do a new install? and when did you?
[04:07] <jadakren> sometime last year i did a fresh install over intrepid (my home & /var/www is on another partition)
[04:07] <chelz> jadakren: is your /var/www a mountpoint or symlink?
[04:08] <jadakren> izmanromli, 5.3 is fairly new ? i cant even find ppa for it
[04:08] <jadakren> chelz, i think its a symlink (on my netbook its just on the same partition as / )
[04:09] <izmanromli> jadakren: not really ... it has been launched awhile ago
[04:09] <jadakren> izmanromli, maybe it will part of lucid then
[04:09] <bigtom21485> what are the most popular file sharing programs for ubuntu?
[04:10] <izmanromli> jadakren: i guess so, but i never read anything about lucid
[04:10] <chelz> bigtom21485: transmission, frostwire, nicotine, azureus, lanshark
[04:10] <denis-k> bigtom21485, LimeWire is available for linux/ubuntu
[04:10] <denis-k> o...frostwire is on linux too?
[04:11] <mcurran> limewire and deluge are my two favorites
[04:11] <Neezer> I'm having problems using kompozer to publish my webpage to my web server...anyone have any experience with this?
[04:11] <mcurran> transmission sucks, but a lot of people use it
[04:11] <jadakren> mcurran, why is that ?
[04:11] <izmanromli> mcurran: i use ktorrent
[04:12] <mcurran> name the file index.html and put it in /var/www/
[04:13] <BoondoKlife> mcurran: I LOVE transmission
[04:13] <jadakren> mcurran, if you're talking to Neezer then you'll need to 1) stop assuming they are talking about their own machine being the webserver 2) prefix your messages with their name 3) provide more info
[04:13] <Neezer> mcurran, I know I can do that, but I have kompozer on my laptop, and I want to try to ftp it...I'm not sure how to set it up...it is a pain to ssh it over to my server. then use the sudo command once I'm there to put it into /var/www
[04:13] <jadakren> Neezer, likewise you'll need to be more specific.
[04:14] <jadakren> Neezer, have you tried putting your user in the www-data group ?
[04:14] <Neezer> jadakren, thanks...I am using kompozer on my laptop...my server is at home, and I'm away from home for work....it sounds like I should be able to do it with the publish option in kompozer, but i keep getting errors.
[04:14] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is there an alternative to Audacity?
[04:14] <Neezer> jadakren, no. is that on my server or on my laptop?
[04:15] <jadakren> Neezer, 1) i would use sshfs to mount the remote folder locally so that protocll issues are removed from the equation.
[04:15] <jadakren> Neezer, sorry i was referring to your user on the server
[04:15] <axisys_> how do I make sure my ubuntu laptop does not go to sleep when connected to AC, how do I do it by sshing to it?
[04:15] <MrPiracy_> how can i install old grub from a karmic live cd ?
[04:15] <Neezer> jadakren, protocll?
[04:16] <jadakren> Neezer, "protocol" ssh, smb, ftp etc etc deal with permissions in different ways...kompozer might be getting hung up on this
[04:16] <Neezer> I can mount my server system on my laptop, and I tried to do that and then just drag and drop, but it gave me permission issues cause it is in /var. Can I just chmod the folder to let me use it too?
[04:16] <Neezer> jadakren, *without using sudo
[04:17] <axisys_> i guess i configure /etc/default/acpi-support ?
[04:17] <jadakren> Neezer, well becuase my home web server is not a production server i can take risks with permissions. so i put myself in the www-data group and chown the whole /var/www to my username
[04:18] <wols_> MrPiracy_: is grub1 already on your disk? if so, grub-install restores it just as usual. if not, you need to get the .deb for grub and dpkg -i it
[04:18] <jadakren> axisys_, no. is it having a gnome desktop ?
[04:18] <Neezer> is that sudo chown nathan:nathan /var/www?
[04:18] <wols_> jakeriver: why chown /var/www _and_ add yourself to the group?
[04:18] <jadakren> Neezer, yes but i dont overwrite the group. so i use : sudo chown jadakren: /var/www/ -R
[04:18] <Neezer> jadakren, sorry about not using your name....is that sudo chown nathan:nathan /var/www?
[04:18] <Neezer> oops
[04:19] <jadakren> Neezer, you still want the group to remain as www-data
[04:19] <blendmaster1024> can anyone ping 97.117.115.221? and if you can what about can you get to the "accept key" part on 'ssh 97.117.115.221 -p 443'
[04:19] <MrPiracy_> wols_: :) haven't though of the .deb ... thx
[04:19] <axisys_> jadakren: i dont have access to gnome desktop from I am sitting.. i need to go close to it for that.. lol .. i think i just modify /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
[04:19] <fiyawerx> Is there a way to install the new catalyst in Lucid for amd64?
[04:19] <wols_> !Zilnof Wright, John C - Golden Age 03 - The Golden Transcendence - HTM.rar
[04:20] <Neezer> jadakren, I'm pretty new to this...but i think i get it....the group for /var/www is www-data? and doing nathan:nathan would make it in the nathan group, but just nathan: keeps it in the www-data group?
[04:20] <axisys_> jadakren: ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE_ON_AC=0 hmm.. this is already set like i wanted
[04:20] <jadakren> axisys_, no my question was does the laptop have a gnome desktop? if so you can just use X forwarding in an ssh session to run the gui config app
[04:21] <axisys_> jadakren: i guess ipw2200 died caused the screen blank and not want to wake up
[04:21] <jadakren> Neezer, correct.
[04:21] <axisys_> jadakren: yes it has gnome
[04:21] <jadakren> axisys_, ssh user@laptop -Y
[04:21] <axisys_> jadakren: in
[04:21] <jadakren> axisys_, then run gnome-power-settings
[04:22] <casemods> can anyone tell me how to install thunderbird?
[04:22] <axisys_> jadakren: sudo ?
[04:22] <jadakren> axisys_, i mean : gnome-power-preferences
[04:22] <axisys_> jadakren: cool! thanks
[04:22] <jadakren> axisys_, if the options you want are not there... try looking in gconf-editor
[04:23] <jadakren> axisys_, i actually suspect you will need to tango with dbus to prevent the screen turning off when power cable is unplugged
[04:23] <ubuntu_user_01> so I have a server with a raid 6 array and the OS on a seperate HDD...that HDD is now failing, so if i pull it out...throw in a new HDD and reinstall ubuntu on it will i be able to recover my raid 6 array?
[04:23] <fiyawerx> or is it only available for non 64 bit so far.. or is it even available for that? I was able to find it here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/2:8.721-0ubuntu1/+build/1568894
[04:23] <fiyawerx> but not sure how to get that to work
[04:24] <axisys_> jadakren: yep, it looks good
[04:24] <axisys_> jadakren: not sure why the laptop did not respond.. i had to ssh to it and reboot
[04:24] <axisys_> jadakren: guessing the ipw2200 firmware keep dying.. but i still ssh to it .. so that could not be it
[04:25] <jadakren> axisys_, is that a wifi card ?
[04:25] <casemods> when I try to install a flash plugin, it says it cannont find package
[04:25] <jadakren> casemods, how are you trying to install it ?
[04:25] <axisys_> jadakren: builtin intel chip on hp nc6220 laptop
[04:25] <jadakren> axisys_, ok not sure what that is but what does the ipw2200 do ?
[04:25] <casemods> jadakren: in firefox, when trying to install adblock plus, it asks for a flash plugin
[04:26] <jadakren> casemods, do you have ubufox installed ?
[04:26] <axisys_> jadakren: intel wifi driver
[04:26] <Neezer> thanks jadakren, working a little better now...i'd still like to get the publish feature of kompozer working.
[04:26] <ubuntu_user_01> can anyone help
[04:26] <casemods> no, I don't know that is jadakren
[04:26] <ubuntu_user_01> ??
[04:26] <jadakren> !help | ubuntu_user_01
[04:27] <jadakren> casemods, are you using ubuntu 9.10 ?
[04:27] <casemods> I believe so.
[04:27] <axisys_> ubuntu_user_01: i like find the answer too
[04:27] <casemods> jadakren:
[04:27] <Headtalk|>  if i have 4 cores with HT  do i put -lavdopts threads=4  or  -lavdopts threads=8
[04:27] <axisys_> jadakren: he already asked a question
[04:27] <axisys_> jadakren: /lastlog ubuntu_user_01 will show
[04:28] <axisys_> ubuntu_user_01: if that were zfs raid6 u wound have no issue.. not sure how ext3 or ext4 works
[04:29] <ubuntu_user_01> its JFS raid 6
[04:29] <Headtalk|> what is better  ext or resierfs
[04:29] <ubuntu_user_01> resierfs is dead
[04:29] <ubuntu_user_01> ext4 is the future
[04:29] <axisys_> ubuntu_user_01: it is already here.. ext4 that is
[04:29] <Headtalk|> why did people use resierfs then
[04:29] <axisys_> ubuntu_user_01: in karmic
[04:29] <jadakren> casemods, so you didnt actually specifically try to install flash plugin itself ?
[04:30] <jadakren> !flash | casemods
[04:30] <ubuntu_user_01> i know its here and its the fs for the future is what i meant lol
[04:30] <jadakren> ubuntu_user_01, actually waiting for the revisioned file system to be honest.
[04:30] <psycho_oreos> ext4 isn't stable yet
[04:30] <casemods> jadakren: when I went to install adblock plus, it told me I needed a flash plugin to view the site properly and gave me a list of 3 choices. each one tried and failed and told me it was unable to find the file associated with it
[04:31] <psycho_oreos> and there's plenty of competitors out there
[04:31] <Headtalk|> is it possible to convert  resierfs to  extx  without losing data?
[04:31] <jadakren> casemods, have a read of this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[04:31] <axisys_> so anyone knows if an external jfs raid6 will survive with new linux OS ?
[04:31] <MrPiracy_> wols_: can i install grub from apt-get in terminal? i think it would be easier
[04:31] <axisys_> that was a question from ubuntu_user_01
[04:32] <darolu> psycho_oreos, ext4 was declared stable on 21 October 2008
[04:32] <axisys_> and i like to know the answer too
[04:32] <psycho_oreos> darolu, and yet it isn't as of ubuntu 9.10 with bugs about large files
[04:32] <Headtalk|> why did some people used reiserfs intead of ext
[04:32] <jadakren> casemods, i think im using adobe-flashplugin  at the moment (sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin )
[04:33] <psycho_oreos> Headtalk|, the way reiserfs managed files were different to ext
[04:33] <darolu> psycho_oreos, I didn't know that, how large does a file need to be to trigger the bug?
[04:33] <ubuntu_user_01> use xfs or jfs for large files and servers and ext3 or ext4 for your OS
[04:33] <Headtalk|> psycho and was being different , better?
[04:33] <jadakren> casemods, you might like to try installing flashplugin-nonfree
[04:34] <psycho_oreos> darolu, it was noted in the release notes.. even when I went about installing arch I noticed they documented ext4 is still new
[04:34] <sfstikkun> I am attempting to get to irc.starchat which i've used successfully for years.  tonight I'm computer is delivering a note that says " connected" but then it says its "lost connection.,  Anyone know what might be causing this failure?
[04:34] <casemods> jadakren: it says "could not find package "flash plugin installer"
[04:34] <jadakren> casemods, read what i posted above please.
[04:34] <psycho_oreos> Headtalk|, it ultimately depends on what you need at the end of the day, reiserfs iirc handles small files better, so if your linux setup was purely as mail daemon for example, reiserfs would boost the performance
[04:35] <jadakren> sfstikkun, someone on your lan is hogging the latency with torrents ?
[04:35] <casemods> what is "sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin"
[04:35] <casemods> jadakren:
[04:35] <Headtalk|> psycho_oreos if that is true, why is <ubuntu_user_01> saying resierfs is dead
[04:35] <ubuntu_user_01> jadakren...what version of ubuntu u using?
[04:35] <ubuntu_user_01> because resier went to jail
[04:36] <psycho_oreos> Headtalk|, its dead because the author is jailed, its offtopic and there's reiser4 which may supercede reiserfs
[04:36] <jadakren> casemods, 1) open a terminal : press alt + f2 2) type : gnome-terminal 3) in the new window type : sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:36] <Headtalk|> author went to jail? wtf
[04:36] <Headtalk|> why did author went to jail
[04:36] <ubuntu_user_01> yea...offtopic reiser is dead for now
[04:36] <psycho_oreos> Headtalk|, google for Hans Reiser.. I'm not going to talk about it here
[04:36] <casemods> jadakren: where is terminal?
[04:36] <jadakren> !ot
[04:37] <jadakren> casemods, did you press alt and f2 together ?>
[04:37] <ubuntu_user_01> jadakren  go to applications accessories terminal
[04:37] <casemods> ok got it now
[04:37] <Headtalk|> even if author went to jail,  why would reserfs die?
[04:37] <ubuntu_user_01> because he was the lead architech and the community fell away after he went to jail
[04:37] <ub3rg33k> test
[04:37] <jadakren> Headtalk|, no idea but it has nothing to do with ubuntu support.
[04:38] <casemods> jadakren: "E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree"
[04:38] <Headtalk|> psycho_oreos  is that mean  ext is better than resierfs  for bigger files?
[04:38] <jadakren> casemods, what does this reveal  : apt-cache search | grep flash
[04:39] <psycho_oreos> Headtalk|, google is your friend, I'm not going to talk about it here when its all offtopic
[04:39] <jadakren> casemods, sorry i mean apt-cache search flash | grep plugin
[04:39] <Headtalk|> psycho why is it offtopic, we are talking about linux filesystem
[04:39] <psycho_oreos> because its not ubuntu support
[04:39] <psycho_oreos> period
[04:39] <Headtalk|> ok
[04:39] <casemods> nothing happens jad
[04:40] <casemods> jadakren:
[04:40] <sfstikkun> Jadakrelan, since I don't havea lan, I'm not sure how anyone can be hogging "the latecy with torrents)  Whats the next possible solution.
[04:41] <jadakren> sfstikkun, check your dns ? make sure that your gateway mac address is really the maccaddress of your gateway and not someone doign a mitm attack
[04:41] <axisys_> ubuntu_user_01: you probably want to ask to the mailing list as well.. i am curious if your raid will survive..
[04:41] <sfstikkun> Thanks
[04:42] <jadakren> sfstikkun, maybe reboot the router ... no idea. its a problem that requires lots of debug info i suppose before any realy suggestions can be given
[04:42] <darolu> psycho_oreos, all I found in Ubuntu 9.10 release notes about ext4 is that you have to manually install grub; I also found ext4 limit is 2^32 blocks but that's about it; I ask because I have a Ubuntu server and its HD's FS are ext4, it handles files of ~5GiB sometimes, should I worry about the bug you mentioned?
[04:42] <sobczyk> how to properly disable hdd power management, or set it to a higher value (ie. 200 instead of 128)?
[04:42] <jadakren> casemods, open software sources : system > admin > software sources
[04:43] <jadakren> casemods, viewing the "ubuntu software" tab, are the first four tickboxes ticked ?
[04:44] <ubuntu_user_01> darolu, i would def consider moving to a more mature FS such as XFS or JFS
[04:45] <casemods> jadakren: all 4 are ticked, and source code is not
[04:45] <linshine> anyone know how to fix gdm (login) screen fonts. mine are all squares. [][][][]
[04:45] <linshine> using lucid 10.04 beta1
[04:46] <jadakren> casemods, ok open synaptic package manager : system > admin > synaptics package manager
[04:46] <bastid_raZor> linshine: go to #ubuntu+1 for lucid/10.04 support
[04:46] <jadakren> !lucid | linshine
[04:46] <darolu> ubuntu_user_01, I used to have XFS but (at the time) I read ext4 had better performance so I tried it, do you know of any documentation regarding the bug psycho_oreos mentioned?
[04:46] <ranjan> How to clear squid cache???
[04:46] <ubuntu_user_01> axisys_: I check over in ubuntu-server and i think i have a solution...since my OS hdd isn't completely dead i am going to make a raid 1 with a new hdd then swap out the failing hdd
[04:47] <sfstikkun> I'll be back to get more questions answered later...must sleep, my hnead ison the keyboard. night...thanks
[04:47] <casemods> ok got it jadakren
[04:47] <jadakren> casemods, now search for flash
[04:48] <ranjan> please help....anyone who can help me in clearing the squid chache??
[04:48] <casemods> ok got it, thanks jadakren
[04:49] <jadakren> casemods, probem solved? flash working ?
[04:49] <ubuntu_user_01> darolu, the known bug has actually been fixed and backported to kernel 2.6.28 if you are using ubuntu
[04:49] <casemods> well its installing, ill check now
[04:49] <jadakren> casemods, make sure to restart the browser
[04:49] <ubuntu_user_01> however, it is still a new FS and depending on what you are using those disks for you prolly dont need the added performance that ext4 provides
[04:50] <darolu> ubuntu_user_01, OK, thank you.
[04:50] <ubuntu_user_01> you especially dont need the performance if it is a production machine...stability before speed always
[04:51] <sobczyk> in my ubuntu bluetooth stopped working, dmesg shows something about bluetooth but bluetooth settings shows o devices, how can I fix it?
[04:54] <MrPiracy_> i am stuck ... trying to install old grub from terminal, used dpkg -i but directory /boot/grub doesn't exist. what am i doing wrong?
[04:55] <sobczyk> MrPiracy_,  probably the package does not create /boot/grub
[04:55] <MrPiracy_> sobczyk: but it should, no?
[04:55] <Trek> MrPiracy_ you trying to install grub legacy?
[04:55] <sobczyk> it is arbitrary where you install grub
[04:55] <MrPiracy_> yes, the old grub
[04:56] <MrPiracy_> i uninstalled grub2
[04:56] <Trek> MrPiracy_ use supergrubdisk to install Grub Legacy
[04:56] <Trek> i think
[04:56] <Trek> it still works
[04:56] <sobczyk> just make the dir and follow one of the grub-install howtos
[04:56] <Trek> stupid enterbutton
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[04:56] <psycho_oreos> darolu, it was once noted in the 9.10 release notes: look at the info here for starters https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/404804
[04:56] <MrPiracy_> ok, it installed with no errors
[04:57] <MrPiracy_> but now i cant root to my partition from grub prompt
[04:58] <sobczyk> did you do grub-install?
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[05:00] <sircrazy> casemods, you should ask in here how to download thunderbird
[05:00] <casemods> i think i got it
[05:01] <sircrazy> lol
[05:02] <syk> when u do "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:whatever/ppa" in terminal, how do i remove it/or edit it?
[05:03] <murlidhar> ~
[05:03] <Flannel> syk: /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[05:03] <Flannel> syk: (the latter means the files in that folder)
[05:03] <Flannel> syk: OR you should be able to do it via software properties
[05:04] <MrPiracy_> sobczyk: how do i run grub-intall? i dont even know where grub went to :(
[05:04] <BaseBallBoy> Hey guys
[05:04] <murlidhar> MrPiracy_: there is an excellent how to in the community documentation about grub installation.
[05:04] <murlidhar> !grub2
[05:05] <sobczyk> MrPiracy_, the easiest is run some repair cd with the legacy grub, and run grub-install from there
[05:05] <BaseBallBoy> Quick question, can I get an estimated time/date that Ubuntu 10.04 will be ready?
[05:05] <trinikrono> april!
[05:05] <sobczyk> I agree the ubuntu grub howto is excellent
[05:05] <BaseBallBoy> trinikrono, your kidding?
[05:05] <Trek> !lucid | BaseBallBoy
[05:05] <chelz> BaseBallBoy: that's all on the release schedule. but it'll be around april 30th
[05:05] <chelz> that
[05:05] <Flannel> BaseBallBoy: April 29 (last Thursday in April)
[05:06] <sobczyk> MrPiracy_, the installation steps are almost the same if not identical to grub2
[05:06] <BaseBallBoy> thanks guys
[05:06] <Trek> BaseBallBoy, its in beta right now though
[05:06]  * BaseBallBoy can't wait
[05:06] <murlidhar> MrPiracy_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[05:06] <chelz> BaseBallBoy: the servers get really hard right around when big updates happen, so if you can it's good to wait a few weeks
[05:06] <chelz> also don't forget to always install updates after installing
[05:06] <BaseBallBoy> Yeah yeah, i know :P
[05:07] <Trek> BaseBallBoy, discuss how much you can't wait in either off-topic or #ubuntu+1 please
[05:07] <murlidhar> MrPiracy_: if u want to reinstall grub ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202
[05:07] <Losha> Trek: thank you. I'm over 10.04 *already*...
[05:07] <mobidroid> Hi I have a ubuntu server running on a VPS, now the file system is corrupted and I'm really not used to retreive files from a corrupted fs... I runned fschk and it deleted most of the important files like /etc/init.d and /var/www/ (which is what i'm trying to retreive) is there a guide on how to ressurect files from a ubuntu server (without having access to the physical drive)
[05:07] <mobidroid> On a side note i would like to know how often corrupted filesystem is occuring?
[05:08] <murlidhar> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sdX
[05:08] <murlidhar> is the simple command  : )
[05:08] <sircrazy> mobidroid, anywhere from once every 3 days to never
[05:08] <murlidhar> but the linux partition must be mounted first.
[05:08] <globus_> hello all, I got some thing need to ask guru here. It's about file system. When i use "mc" in console and traverse file system and move to some directory( different with current directory before I use mc). Then click F10 to exit mc but the directory now is not the directory which mc pointing to, that's the directory before I use mc. Anybody know how to keep current directory is the place when I exit "mc" ? Thanks !
[05:08] <murlidhar> !support globus_
[05:09] <murlidhar> errr
[05:09] <MrPiracy_> murlidhar: i just installed karmic, it comes with grub2 so i uninstalled it and am now trying to install grub legacy to it
[05:09] <Trek> lol murlidhar
[05:09] <murlidhar> !support > globus_
[05:09] <murlidhar> :)
[05:09] <mobidroid> sircrazy: I knew i should backup a bit, but damn
[05:09] <sircrazy> mobidroid, chances are you wont have corruption
[05:09] <HexRex> Is there anything as good as notepad++ for linux?
[05:09] <sircrazy> but i backup once a week
[05:09] <MrPiracy_> murlidhar: is it on apt-get
[05:09] <MrPiracy_> ?
[05:09] <murlidhar> MrPiracy_: oh ... i thought you were trying to reinstall the grub
[05:09] <murlidhar> MrPiracy_: yes it is.
[05:09] <HexRex> emacs sucks
[05:10] <MrPiracy_> murlidhar: for karmic?
[05:10] <barcode> how do i get my ubuntu menu back :(
[05:10] <murlidhar> !info grub | MrPiracy_
[05:10] <mobidroid> sircrazy: well now i have and I dont find much stuff on the net about what to do now :( I asked the image of the vps to the hosting cie maybe they will kindly reject my request :(
[05:10] <murlidhar> !info grub2 | MrPiracy_
[05:10] <mobidroid> sircrazy: is fschk the only thing in order to fix files?!
[05:11] <Losha> mobidroid: all the really serious file recovery programs I'm aware of assume you have access to the raw block device for the drive. I dunno how much you can achieve on a VPS filesystem. Are there no backups?
[05:11] <sircrazy> mobidroid, basically
[05:11] <sircrazy> there are some other apps that claim able to repair filesystems
[05:11] <sircrazy> but idk much about them
[05:11] <murlidhar> hmm
[05:11] <murlidhar> !info grub-legacy
[05:11] <murlidhar> hmm
[05:11] <sircrazy> !info grub
[05:11] <MrPiracy_> murlidhar: well, i think i all need is to figure out how to install this .deb from the terminal now
[05:11] <mobidroid> Losha: nope :(
[05:12] <murlidhar> MrPiracy_: sudo dpkg -i .......... .deb ?
[05:12] <MrPiracy_> murlidhar: i mean, it installed cos i can get into it's prompt if i type "grub", but i have no idea where it went to
[05:12] <mobidroid> Losha: well no backup that I made, maybe they backup image on there side it would be great
[05:12] <ae86-drifter> why has so many people switch to debian from ubuntu?
[05:12] <murlidhar> MrPiracy_: well you should consider going to #ubuntu .. for help .
[05:13] <murlidhar> MrPiracy_: i am not so sure how it can be done.
[05:13] <MrPiracy_> murlidhar: that is where i am ;)
[05:13] <murlidhar> :)
[05:13] <murlidhar> good.
[05:13] <Losha> mobidroid: meanwhile, browse https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery and see if any of that applies...
[05:13] <ae86-drifter> murlidhar, is this not #ubuntu?
[05:13] <murlidhar> keep trying. you might find the answer else .
[05:13] <mobidroid> Losha: k thx
[05:13] <ae86-drifter> try !#ubuntu
[05:13] <Flannel> HexRex: Try SciTE
[05:13] <chelz> MrPiracy_: sudo apt-get install --reconfigure grub2- grub
[05:14] <harish> Hi everyone..i am upgrading from ubuntu 32bit to ubuntu 64bit
[05:14] <ae86-drifter> try sudo rm -rf /
[05:14] <Flannel> HexRex: (SCiTE is what notepad++ is based off of)
[05:14] <mobidroid> I'm thats a bad start: Shut down the affected machine as soon as possible, and restart it from a LiveCD or LiveUSB. Be certain that the "live" cd does not automatically mount any partition or swap space.
[05:14] <Flannel> !danger
[05:14] <chelz> harish: doesn't work like that
[05:14] <MrPiracy_> chelz: i dont want grub2
[05:14] <chelz> MrPiracy_: if you copy exactly what i typed, it removes it
[05:14] <MrPiracy_> chelz: ohhh, ok
[05:14] <chelz> wait
[05:15] <chelz> MrPiracy_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub2- grub
[05:15] <chelz> rather
[05:15] <harish> iam trying to overwrite 32bit version with 64bit version
[05:15] <harish> i prepared a live usb stick for that but i am getting boot error
[05:16] <harish> need help
[05:16] <Losha> harish: how much RAM do you have?
[05:16] <deathtech> Hello all ! I have installed 9.10 on a Dell Mini (1010) , and im trying to get a MadCatz Xbox 360 controller to function. In every port i plug the device into, it blinks continuosly, and a lsusb seems to make it show up as a device named "Harmonix Music" . This is a gamepad, however, and im a bit confused.
[05:16] <harish> 4gb
[05:16] <syk> harish, what kind of boot error?
[05:16] <harish> as soon as i restart the system, it says boot error
[05:16] <MrPiracy_> chelz: it said "reinstallation of grub is not possible, it cannot be downloaded"
[05:16] <harish> i press any key, it takes to to the existing ubuntu 32bit
[05:17] <chelz> MrPiracy_: what happend with your apt?
[05:17] <Losha> harish: it's barely worth upgrading to 64 bit then, for only 4G RAM. Any speedup you might see you'll pay for in reduced stability...
[05:17] <MrPiracy_> chelz: i dont know, i booted from live cd and i'm online, browser works
[05:17] <chelz> harish: upgrading doesn't work too well. doing a bit change is done by a new install
[05:17] <harish> my system is 64bit
[05:18] <harish> so, i want to use 64bit
[05:18] <chelz> harish: yeah do a fresh install
[05:18] <harish> i copied the 64bit iso and made live usb out of it
[05:18] <harish> but i am not able to replace it with the existing 32bit
[05:18] <chelz> harish: liveusb how?
[05:19] <harish> i used unetbootin
[05:19] <chelz> harish: do manual partitioning and format over your old 32bit, after you backup your data
[05:19] <deathtech> Anyone have any experience with using a 360 controller on 9.10 ?
[05:19] <harish> chelz, i have all the data backed up
[05:19] <MrPiracy_> chelz: i have downloaded the .deb for grub 0.97, how can i get it installed from it?
[05:19] <harish> i have no other operating system
[05:20] <chelz> MrPiracy_: system -> administration -> software sources -> Download from -> other -> click get best server
[05:21] <abhi_nav> I am planning to use my current hdd (on which this ubuntu 9.04 is installed) to use as backup disk and to have fresh install of ubuntu on new hdd. Which is the better way to proced? 1. Install 9.04 on new disk and then upgrade to 9.10 2. do fresh installation of 9.10 on new hdd 3. upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 to 10.04 4. upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 5. Should I use 9.04 itself till the end of its life? or upgrade it to 9.10 and/or 10.04?
[05:21] <chelz> harish: in an ubuntu livecd open up partition editor and go to Device -> Create Partition Table
[05:21] <abhi_nav> Thanx for reading this big question
[05:21] <Losha> MrPiracy_: http://brettshaffer.com/blog/linux/downgrade-grub-2/   If it goes wrong, you didn't hear it from me...
[05:22] <MrPiracy_> chelz: i am chroot to my hd karmic partition, would that be the problem apt-get is not working?
[05:22] <chelz> MrPiracy_: ah yeah that could be it, you need to copy your resolv.conf
[05:22] <harish> chelz i dont have a live cd...can i do it with usb live?
[05:22] <chelz> harish: yeah
[05:22] <deathtech> Caveman mode ACTIVATE ! :D "Why for it so hard to get 360 controller to work in 9.10"
[05:22] <trinikrono> abhi_nav: use 9.04 till 10 comes out
[05:23] <tots> I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 and have set up my machine to for LAMP. However I notice that the PHP package in the package manager is for v5.2.10 which was released last June, the newest stable version is 5.3.2. is it possible to get a package for the newer version, and if do where can I find one?
[05:23] <chelz> MrPiracy_: sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mounteddrivepoint/etc/
[05:23] <Guest18520> hi people, i have troubles in my ubuntu 9.10. When i install the ATI`s video driver with EnvyNG , my ubuntu only starts by text mode
[05:23] <abhi_nav> trinikrono: hmmm
[05:24] <bigtom21485> i have no way of syncing my ipod with my library on my computer.
[05:24] <chelz> bigtom21485: lucid with be a lot better at that with rhythmbox
[05:24] <harish> chelz, please provide all the steps..i will not be having power in another 5minutes....i can copy the steps and save them
[05:25] <abhi_nav> trinikrono: and then should I upgrade to 10.04 via 9.10?
[05:25] <Guest18520> someone can help me?
[05:25] <chelz> harish: go to gparted aka Partition Editor, in it go to the Device menu, then click Create Partition Table and click "create" (only do this if you're sure you've backed up all data on the drive)
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[05:25] <chelz> harish: then do the ubuntu install normally
[05:25] <MrPiracy_> chelz: i ctrl+d to go back to live cd root, copied resolv.conf, chroot back to hd partition and typed "sudo apt-get --reinstall grub" ... then i got "unable to resolve ubuntu host"
[05:26] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: I am planning to use my current hdd (on which this ubuntu 9.04 is installed) to use as backup disk and to have fresh install of ubuntu on new hdd. Which is the better way to proced? 1. Install 9.04 on new disk and then upgrade to 9.10 2. do fresh installation of 9.10 on new hdd 3. upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 to 10.04 4. upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 5. Should I use 9.04 itself till the end of its life? or upgrade it to 9.10
[05:26] <abhi_nav>  and/or 10.04? Thanx for reading this big question
[05:26] <bigtom21485> rhythmbox
[05:26] <bigtom21485> rkythmbox wont copy between the two
[05:26] <MrPiracy_> Losha: i tried that too, but apt-get is not working from live-cd
[05:26] <harish> thanks chelz, i will try it out and hopefully it works...if not, i will come back to you
[05:27] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: trinikrono recommended to use 9.04 untill 10.04 comes out
[05:27] <Guest18520> someone can help me?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: if you clean install use 9.10 unless you are ok with fixing bugs then use 10.04
[05:27] <abhi_nav> !someone | Guest18520
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: i wouldnt bother with 9.04 and 9.10 is stable
[05:27] <chelz> abhi_nav: 3
[05:27] <zus> does anyone use pidgin and the facebook app?
[05:28] <abhi_nav> chelz: 3? what is 3?
[05:28] <chelz> abhi_nav: number 3 in your options
[05:28] <zus> i either get disconnected constantly or get that stupid cptcha
[05:28] <AbortD> i use pidgin
[05:28] <abhi_nav> chelz: ohhh I see
[05:28] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip yes clean install
[05:28] <Guest18520> hi people, i have troubles in my ubuntu 9.10. When i install the ATI`s video driver with EnvyNG , my ubuntu only starts by text mode
[05:29] <chelz> MrPiracy_: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=42e872ca38dd7eb8e35c0f2883dde445&p=7258942&postcount=1
[05:29] <AbortD> Guest18520, when its in text mode login and type startx and see what the error is it should list it
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: go for 9.10 then
[05:30] <Guest18520> ubottu , I had already asked before
[05:30] <SolarisBoy> is there a seperate shortcut in compiz like task switcher but one that show tasks in all workspaces?
[05:30] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: ok. thank you.
[05:30] <bigtom21485> ubottu: lol u do pretty well my friend
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: ps -ef | grep processname   will show all processes on the system
[05:31] <abhi_nav> ubottu is not that much intelligent,
[05:31] <abhi_nav> yah see?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> !coffee | ubottu
[05:31] <abhi_nav> haa haa haa
[05:31] <abhi_nav> she dont know about coffeee!!!!
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> she used to know coffee
[05:31] <abhi_nav> now she only drink tea, I think
[05:31] <Trek> !tea | ubottu
[05:31] <danzig> I think the bot is smarter than most in here :)
[05:31] <SolarisBoy> ActionParsnip: right im aware of this
[05:32] <harish> chelz, i get this error while trying to download gparted through synaptic package manager W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dmraid/libdmraid1.0.0.rc15_1.0.0.rc15-11ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:32] <harish>   Could not resolve 'in.archive.ubuntu.com'
[05:32] <abhi_nav> haa hah ahaa
[05:32] <Losha> oh, do stop rambling...
[05:32] <MrPiracy_> chelz: just did it ... same thing :(
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: if you want something that shows all the workspaces then i's ask in #compiz
[05:32] <Trek> harish: the site you tried to get it from wasnt resolved, means doesnt exist or its ofline
[05:33] <harish> trek, thanks
[05:34] <abhi_nav> Trek :D
[05:34] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: :D
[05:34] <MrPiracy_> chelz: ok, now i removed grub by "apt-get remove grub"
[05:35] <MrPiracy_> chelz: but when i try to run "apt-get install grub" it says pakcage grub has no installatino candidate
[05:35] <abhi_nav> !grub
[05:36] <Trek> abhi_nav, huh>?
[05:36] <abhi_nav> Trek: tea
[05:36] <Trek> !tea > abhi_nav
[05:36] <abhi_nav> Trek: yah
[05:37] <tots> I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 and have set up my machine to for LAMP. However I notice that the PHP package in the package manager is for v5.2.10 which was released last June, the newest stable version is 5.3.2. is it possible to get a package for the newer version, and if do where can I find one?
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> tots: find a deb or ppa
[05:38] <bullgard> ~/.gvfs is empty. Who does fill it?
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: it gets populated when you mount usb stuffs
[05:38] <carmony> on ubuntu server, how can I see what interfaces I have available to setup?
[05:38] <tots> ActionParsnip, where does one find these?
[05:38] <Trek> !server | carmony
[05:38] <carmony> Trek: thanks
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> tots: online duder, do you need fuunctionality in 5.3.2 which sint in 5.2.10?
[05:39] <Trek> carmony: yup
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> s/sint/isn't
[05:39] <tots> ActionParsnip, I want to file a bug report but need to make sure I am at least on the latest stable release of 5.3 or 5.2
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> tots: cool, then if you use the ppa search you may find someone who has compiled it
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> tots: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[05:40] <tots> ActionParsnip, thanks. That's just what i was going to ask :)
[05:41] <bullgard> ActionParsnip: I do not believe you: lsusb shows that there is connected a webcam. Still, ~/.gvfs is empty.
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: gvfs is for block devices, webcams won't show in there
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: use the 8 character hex ID for the cam in lsusb o find guides
[05:43] <bigtom21485> someone help me add banshee ppa
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> bigtom21485: sudo add-apt-repository ppa://link; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:43] <MrPiracy_> chelz: u there?
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> bigtom21485: the ppa://link will replaced by the address on the ppa site
[05:44] <ddrj> where is this directory? Extract it to the ~/.xbmc/plugins/programs directory.
[05:44] <ddrj> i checked / and /usr but i can't find anything with a .xbmc
[05:45] <jussi01> ddrj: ~/ is your home dir
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: gvfs is for when you plug in USB hard drives and SD cards
[05:45] <ddrj> ahhh thanks jussi01 checking
[05:45] <jussi01> ddrj: an a .folder is hidden, so you need to turn on view hidden files
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: webcams do not contain any storage so you will not see any entries ni there, yuo will also not see an entry if you attach a usb set of headphones
[05:46] <ddrj> ahhh no wonder
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: the 8 character hex id identifies the chip the webcam uses which is what you need to drive so websearching for the IS will find you guides
[05:47] <bullgard> ActionParsnip: What do you mean by "IS"?
[05:48] <bigtom21485> ActionParsnip: how do i enable my laptop's built-in webcam for use in linux?
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> bigtom21485: run: lsusb   in a terminal, you will see an 8 character hex id. use that in websearches. Check is isnt already detected by running cheese and seeing if you acn see yourself
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: which sentance are you on about, i used is in 2
[05:49] <bigtom21485> ActionParsnip it didnt install Banshee
[05:50] <bigtom21485> *ActionParsnip: it didnt install Banshee
[05:50] <bullgard> ActionParsnip: "[06:46]	<ActionParsnip>	bullgard: the 8 character hex id identifies the chip the webcam uses which is what you need to drive so websearching for the IS will find you guides"
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> bigtom21485: then you have an equal or later version installed
[05:51] <lars_> hey im trying to play a movie through totem and its giving me an error it says"could not open location;you might not have permission to open file" how do i fix this?
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: sorry, is what will find you guys (on hour 10 of a 12 hour shift)
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> lars_: is it on a network share?
[05:51] <bigtom21485> ActionParsnip: its not in any of my menus
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> bigtom21485: sudo apt-get install banshee   then
[05:52] <lars_> ActionParsnip: i dont know...how do i set it up...steps?
[05:52] <nickstr1988> I have a really annoying sound issue here
[05:52] <bullgard> ActionParsnip: The time given is GMT +1.
[05:53] <nickstr1988> continuous popping sounds from a Conexant based HD sound card in Ubuntu 9.10
[05:53] <zus> can some one help me get the facebook plug in working on pidgin please if youse dont mind?
[05:54] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Can somebody recommend an audacity replacement?  It's stalling on me ever since 8.10>9.04 upgrade.
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> lars_: no, its a question. Is the file on yuor PC or on a network share on another pc?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> bullgard: GMT here dude, Leesd West Yorkshire, UK
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> Leeds sorry
[05:54] <oildrum> if I changed the timezone of a very important server, what is the best way to figure out what all services need to be restarted?
[05:55] <dsnyders> oildrum, I take it the server cannot be rebooted?
[05:56] <Flannel> oildrum: Your timezone is a user thing not a systemwide thing
[05:56] <nickstr1988> this is the most annoying sound issue ever, it only happened after installing 9.10
[05:57] <lars_> ActionParship: um no the dvd file is on my computer so its not on network share...whenever i try to mount the file onto the movie player that error comes up
[05:58] <abhi_nav> hi m back
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> lars_: is it a video dvd or a data dvd with random content on it?
[05:59] <harish> i am trying to install ubuntu 64bit..i already have 32bit operating..i would like to copy all the propreitory drivers for use in 64bit
[06:00] <harish> i get error no permission error while copying
[06:00] <harish> any help
[06:00] <paco_the_taco> harish
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> harish: that wont work, the drivers are 32bit. you will need to download the 64bit drivers
[06:00] <paco_the_taco> i think your gonna have to re-install anything
[06:00] <harish> ActionParsnip, thanks
[06:01] <annihilus> anyone have any suggestions for creating limited user accounts on a server?  Dont want the users trying to fork bomb or something.
[06:01] <abhi_nav> how to know if my system if 32 bit? wll 64 bit os install on my 32 bit computer? this 32 bit or 64 bit this is processor or what?
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> annihilus: keep their group memberships minimal
[06:01] <lars_> ActionParship: its a video dvd its not pirated or anything got it from the store
[06:01] <Trek> abhi_nav, do you have a 64bit processor?
[06:01] <abhi_nav> Trek: how to know that?
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: uname -a | grep i686    if you get an output its 32bit, if not then its 64bit
[06:02] <darolu> abhi_nav, a 64-bit OS won't work on a 32-bit system; what kind of processor do you have?
[06:02] <annihilus> ActionParsnip, yeah i plan to keep their group as users and lock down their /home
[06:02] <Trek> if you dont know, assume you have a 32-bit operating system, it works on everything (almost)
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: that is the architecture of the OS
[06:02] <abhi_nav> darolu: & ActionParsnip: Linux abhi-laptop 2.6.28-18-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 04:40:52 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> annihilus: i believe theres a way to quota cpu usage per user but not sure
[06:03] <abhi_nav> darolu: & ActionParsnip: thats the output of uname -a | grep i686
[06:03] <abhi_nav> Trek: Linux abhi-laptop 2.6.28-18-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 04:40:52 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:03] <darolu> abhi_nav, run this in a terminal: lshw | grep width
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: if you run: cat /proc/cpuinfo | head -n 20     you can websearch for your CPU model to see if its 64bit
[06:03] <Trek> abhi_nav, you have 32bit
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: ok your ubuntu install is 32bit, but you can run a 32bit OS on a 64bit CPU (mostly)
[06:04] <zus> how can i reinstall the grub? i reisnstalled my 9.10 gnome, and now i have no grub....
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | zus
[06:04] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: darolu: Trek: this is output of lshw | grep width : http://paste.ubuntu.com/399129/
[06:04] <zus> ActionParsnip,  thanks
[06:05] <londei_a> COUCOU LES GENS , ÇA VA BIEN LES GENS ALORS ?? G UN PROBLEM AVEC MON IMPRIMANTE
[06:05] <edinho> Hi all
[06:05] <darolu> uname -a prints the OS info, a 32-bit OS on a 64-bit machine will still print i686
[06:05] <lars_> ActionParship: no its a DVD video
[06:06] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: darolu: Trek: this is output of cat /proc/cupinfo | head -n 20 http://paste.ubuntu.com/399130/
[06:06] <zus> further more i seem to not be able to decrypt my encrypted email...i had saved my pgp key, and pasted it once the new install was done.
[06:06] <Losha> !fr | londei_a
[06:06] <darolu> abhi_nav, seems like you have 64-bit system
[06:06] <budah> iv seen someone running conky in terminal ? am i mistaken or
[06:06] <darolu> abhi_nav, cupinfo says double core, you def. have 64-bit
[06:06] <abhi_nav> darolu: then should I install 9.10 64 bit?
[06:07] <darolu> abhi_nav, yes
[06:07] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: darolu: Trek: is it that 64 systems have less no. of apps or less no. of driver support etc?
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: T5750 is 64bit
[06:07] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: hmm
[06:08] <edinho> http://www.mozilla-enigmail.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=674
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: 64bit is very supported, some companys dont make 64bit but a large majority do (some games only come in 32bit flavour from what ive seen)
[06:08] <darolu> abhi_nav, yes there are more apps for 32-bit systems, but 32-bit apps can run on 64-bits systems
[06:08] <edinho> http://www.mozilla-enigmail.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=674
[06:09] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: darolu: ohh ok. so e.g. If i only have a aps or game of 32 bit then i can easily run it on my 64 bit 9.10?
[06:09] <darolu> abhi_nav, as ActionParsnip said, most apps, libraries and drivers support 64-bit, if you don't run anything out of the common apps you should not have any problem at all.
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: should be fnie yes, you will most likely find that all apps are 64bit available (unless you get real unlucky)
[06:09] <abhi_nav> darolu: ok
[06:10] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: ohhhh hmmm :D
[06:10] <abhi_nav> darolu: :D
[06:10] <Losha> budah: I don't think conky runs in a terminal. Most of the info it provides can be displayed via a terminal though...
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> theres an awesmoe mech warrior game which is 32bit only ut i managed to get it going using ia32-libs ;)
[06:10] <darolu> abhi_nav, yes it is relatively easy, the most complex procedure I have encounter is to install 32-bit libraries and symbolic-link to them
[06:10] <abhi_nav> darolu: hmm
[06:11] <darolu> abhi_nav, it was simple, I simply installed the 32-bit libraries and told the program where to look for them; it was epsxe (play station emulator) if you are wondering :)
[06:11] <abhi_nav> darolu: hmm :D thank you!
[06:12] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: darolu: Trek: Thank you!
[06:12] <darolu> np
[06:12] <zus> alright i got a command not found when  i type in the sudo apt-get install grub2.
[06:13] <edinho> Someone come to the international forum of free software 11.0?
[06:13] <abhi_nav> !ext4
[06:13] <harish> i have downloaded gparted and placed on my desktop..how do i install it
[06:13] <abhi_nav> she dont know ext4 :-(
[06:13] <harish> i am not able to install through synaptic package manager
[06:14] <AbortD> harish what file type is it
[06:14] <harish> .zip
[06:14] <AbortD> unzip it first
[06:15] <harish> i have extracted all the files and placed it on my desktop
[06:15] <AbortD> what are the files
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> harish: you dont have to download gparted, its on the repo
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> harish: sudo apt-get install gparted
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> !info gparted
[06:15] <zus> i tried to install a fresh 9.10. somehow the hdd was not reading the disc properly and the  os wasnt loading. and i was getting a grub loading unknown file system grub rescue>_ so i un hooded all my drives and installed gnome 9.10 on the one... now im abled to mount my drives but i can not choose  1 linux gnome 9.10 (another -)2linux 9.10 and 3 windows.... i was abled to last night b4 reinstall.
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> harish: if you have an install CD you can add it as a repo and install that way
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> harish: or even boot to the liveCD and use gparted there
[06:17] <harish> ActionParsnip, many thanks, it got installed through terminal
[06:17] <edinho> install grub 2 instead of legacy
[06:17] <edinho> at the master disk
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> harish: in ubuntu its rare to actually download apps, most stuff is installed vi the official repos or by adding extra repos
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> harish: same with java and flash etc
[06:20] <harish> ActionParsnip, i am actually trying to install ubtuntu 64bit, i am currently using 32bit
[06:20] <harish> my system has 64bit processor
[06:20] <harish> i am not able to do the installation through live usb stick
[06:21] <harish> chelz suggested to do it through gparted
[06:21] <harish> how do i do that
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> harish: then boot to the install cd, wipe out the 32bit install (after backing up your stuff) and install a clean 64bit OS
[06:21] <harish> i have it on live usb, i changed the boot settings in bios to boot from live usb
[06:22] <harish> but i am getting "boot error"
[06:22] <harish> any key i press, it takes me to the existing 32bit
[06:22] <abhi_nav> where is the download location for 9.10 64 bit ? becuase on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt there is amd64 or intel i386. but my processor is intel core 2 duo T5750 2.0GH
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> harish: did you MD5 test the ISO you used to make the USB bootable with?
[06:22] <harish> i have intel core 2 quadro
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> !getubuntu
[06:23] <abhi_nav> ?
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> !download
[06:23] <abhi_nav> harish: what is quadro?
[06:23] <abhi_nav> !torrents
[06:24] <abhi_nav> but its 32 bit
[06:24] <abhi_nav> i want 64 bit
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[06:25] <Damascene> hello, is swfdec working in ubuntu?
[06:25] <tehbaut> is there a way to make an existing install back into a livecd?
[06:25] <abhi_nav> so does amd64 includes intel core 2 duo t5750?
[06:25] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip ^^
[06:26] <psycho_oreos> you'd probably should be looking at x86_64 builds for 64bit
[06:27] <Rave1> tehbaut,  yes  remastersys
[06:27] <abhi_nav> psycho_oreos: lots of confusion with 64 bit. no clear path for 64 bit torrent download :-(
[06:27] <tehbaut> thanks Rave1
[06:27] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav, though its not a real necessity imo to have 64bit when i386 should work globally
[06:28] <corigo> Loaded 4.4.1 on 9.10 and at login my entire plasma workspace craShes. Nothing but a black desktop
[06:28] <Rave1> tehbaut, YW
[06:28] <harish> ActionParsnip, i guess, the amd64 bit will work for intel also....it says "core" in the brackets
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: the 64bit torrent is on the page i gave you too
[06:28] <abhi_nav> psycho_oreos: I thought that 64 bit wll be much faster. thats why I am looking for 64 bit..........
[06:28] <alexbobp> I used adept to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10.  Now my computer doesn't boot... it seems the upgrade broke full disk encryption
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> harish: yes, amd64 wil will on intel64 too
[06:28] <alexbobp> does anybody know how to fix this?
[06:28] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: yah I found!!!
[06:28] <corigo> Abhi amd and intel distros synonymos
[06:29] <harish> but i am not able to install it....
[06:29] <harish> i burned on my usb
[06:29] <harish> it is not working through usb stick
[06:29] <psycho_oreos> via unetbootin?
[06:29] <darolu> The term is most likely to change from AMD64 to X_64
[06:29] <abhi_nav> psycho_oreos: yah
[06:29] <abhi_nav> corigo: hmm
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> harish: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/
[06:30] <abhi_nav> darolu: yah exactly!
[06:30] <budah> iv seen someone running conky in terminal can this be done or?
[06:30] <harish> ActionParsnip, i dont have windows in my system
[06:30] <airtonix> corigo, have you discussed this in #kubuntu yet ?
[06:30] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav, well if amd64 doesn't work on your intel 64bit then get x86_64, simple as that
[06:30] <harish> i just have ubuntu 32bit which i want to replace with 64bit
[06:30] <harish> i used unetbootin to make the live usb
[06:30] <corigo> Oops, on my droid, and forgot what channel
[06:31] <abhi_nav> psycho_oreos: there is nothing called x86_64 on that download page :-(
[06:31] <poagester> i am becoming extremely frustrated with installing ubuntu. no matter what I do I get the same error. The error is as follows: Unable to find a medium containing a live file system. why?
[06:31] <Scotie> Hallo help
[06:31] <darolu> harish, use the USB pendrive creator under System - Admin
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> !help | Scotie
[06:32] <Losha> poagester: even with 8.04 ?
[06:32] <harish> darolu, i will try that now
[06:32] <ranjan> abhi_nav, what happened??
[06:32] <poagester> Losha: yes
[06:32] <darolu> abhi_nav, AMD64 = x86_64, different ways to call the same thing
[06:32] <nicholas1988> I need help correcting the Conexant audio bug
[06:32] <Scotie> After upgrade i miss my funtion on the corner of the windows program s
[06:32] <Scotie> function
[06:33] <nicholas1988> my speakers are emitting an annoying popping sound which never ceases
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> Scotie: do you mean the top bar with the name / close / minimise etc?
[06:33] <abhi_nav> ranjan: firs of all I am confused between 32 or 64 bit ? I want fast speed so thinkin for 64 bit. but then after lots of strugl now I found locatin for 64 bit 9.10 torrent download
[06:33] <Scotie> someone a idea
[06:33] <Losha> poagester: you could try unetbootin, I suppose. http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ It's supposed to allow a cd-less install...
[06:33] <abhi_nav> ranjan: you have any suggestion for 32 or 64? I want speed
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: 64bit will only give speed in certain cases
[06:34] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: only certain means? not always? I want always
[06:34] <ranjan> abhi_nav, first of all you should know whether your processor supports 64bit
[06:34] <abhi_nav> ranjan: yes it is
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: for standard desktop stuff there will be no speed increase, if you do lots of music encoding, dvd encoding then it is advantageous
[06:34] <corigo> Loaded 4.4.1 on 9.10 and my plasma workspace is crashing! Nothing but a black desktop
[06:34] <Scotie> programs need to 64 bits too
[06:34] <Scotie> support
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> corigo: i'd ask in #kubuntu
[06:34] <harish> darolu, i get this error while trying to format the usb stick "DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.NotFound: The given volume was not found"
[06:34] <ranjan> abhi_nav, ok then go for 64bit..but i dont think a great speed difference will be there
[06:34] <abhi_nav> ranjan: we were just discussing that only. and conclude that my intel centrino core 2 duo T5750 2.0GH is 64 bi
[06:34] <abhi_nav> t
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: 64bit isnt twice as fast
[06:35] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: ohh I see
[06:35] <poagester> Losha: the name is a little misleading ;-)
[06:35] <ranjan> abhi_nav, ok.. but why you are going for 64bit??
[06:35] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: why? Theoritically it should be naa?
[06:35] <Losha> poagester: I suppose it is...
[06:35] <harish> ActionParsnip, i get this error error while trying to format usb stick "DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.NotFound: The given volume was not found"
[06:35] <darolu> harish, use GParted to format your USB pendrive, if you don't have it install it via software centre or with apt-get install gparted
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: no, its just a larger adressing range for ram
[06:35] <abhi_nav> ranjan: speed
[06:35] <ranjan> abhi_nav, do you feel 32 bit is slow...?? is the applications running thats slow are the boot time
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: and larger data registers in the cpu
[06:36] <abhi_nav> ranjan: tooooooooooo slow :-(
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: i think you need to read on what 64bit actually means
[06:36] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: ok
[06:36] <ranjan> abhi_nav, you are using which version of ubuntu??
[06:36] <poagester> Losha: so i could take the drive that i want it installed to out of the other box and use unetbootin to install ubuntu on it right
[06:36] <Losha> abhi_nav: perhaps I should have said more when I told you it would be hardly worth upgrading...
[06:36] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: ok I read. where? I google it?
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: its an option
[06:36] <abhi_nav> ranjan: 9.04 32 bit
[06:37] <roberj13> Finally done banging my head against the wall getting sound running on my hp dv6
[06:37] <poagester> then install grub on hd0
[06:37] <darolu> abhi_nav, with 64-bit system you will use your dual-core processor, right now with 32-bit OS you are wasting a lot of power; is like having a 8-lanes highway with 6 lanes blocked.
[06:37] <abhi_nav> Losha: means? Please tell me more?
[06:37] <nicholas1988> rober, what did you do
[06:37] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: hmm
[06:37] <nicholas1988> I am in desperate need of help here
[06:37] <abhi_nav> darolu: :D
[06:37] <harish> darolu, i have gparted, how do i recognize my usb in gparted
[06:37] <roberj13> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7299632&postcount=60
[06:37] <nicholas1988> I have a Conexant sound card giving me a popping nose which never ceases
[06:37] <roberj13> worked like a charm
[06:37] <darolu> abhi_nav, enabling all 8-lanes won't rise the speed limit, but more cars will be able to run; same thing happens with your system
[06:37] <roberj13> drums scared the hell out of me i haven't heard sound in so long
[06:38] <ranjan> abhi_nav, ok...just check your system monitor whether its using the full resources...
[06:38] <airtonix>  /msg ubottu test
[06:38] <abhi_nav> darolu: ohhh ok
[06:38] <Losha> poagester: yes, you could. Or you theoretically install ubuntu onto a disk using a windows box...
[06:38] <darolu> harish, on the top-right corner you can select the device, if it is not listed unplug it and plug it back
[06:38] <ranjan> abhi_nav, i heard that there was some bug which used the full processing power on fresh installation
[06:39] <abhi_nav> ranjan: cup1 11% cpu220% memory: 400mb swap: 360 mb (all values approximate)
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> roberj13: i uninstall those sounds, very annoying imho
[06:39] <poagester> Losha: I don't always think of the easy ways, thanx
[06:39] <harish> darolu, i selected the device,how do i format it...there is no format option in gparted?
[06:40] <harish> darolu, i found it
[06:40] <Losha> poagester: I have made a virtue out of being lazy...
[06:40] <roberj13> ActionParsnip, I'm just glad I can finally 'hear' something. I could see how that would get annoying.
[06:40] <ranjan> abhi_nav, ok'
[06:40] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: ranjan: darolu:  ok can I upgrade form 32 bit to 64 bit in future?
[06:40] <darolu> abhi_nav, 64-bit OS doesn't make the system faster per-se, but you get better performance, i.e. I use audio converter apps, with 32-bit it takes 30 secs to convert a ogg to mp3, with 64-bits it takes the same 30 secs... but I can convert 4 songs at the same time vs 1 at at a time with 32-bit os/app :)
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: no, you have to re-install
[06:41] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: ok
[06:41] <darolu> harish, yeah just right click on the partition you want to format, remember to click the green mark on top to apply changes
[06:41] <abhi_nav> darolu: hmmm
[06:41] <cubuntu> Jimmy Page
[06:41] <harish> darolu, i have done that...thanks
[06:41] <abhi_nav> ActionParsnip: ranjan: darolu:  So now I am going for 64 bit. Thank all of you!!!
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> abhi_nav: any time
[06:41] <ranjan> abhi_nav, ok..great..
[06:42] <ranjan> anybody aware of the HAL removal in Lucid
[06:42] <roberj13> hrm, decided for no 64 bit, but can't remember why. Oh well, seems fast enough for now
[06:42] <ShadeS> i'm afraid i ca'nt allow you to do that ranjan
[06:42] <abhi_nav> hmm
[06:42] <darolu> ranjan, yeah I read about it, I don't know how they are replacing it though
[06:43] <nicholas1988> its taking a long time to build but this might work, I downloaded the latest stable version of ALSA
[06:43] <ranjan> darolu, yes..but the booting is really faster..
[06:43] <cubuntu> hi
[06:43] <roberj13> How do I force close something that is hung up?
[06:43] <ranjan> darolu, i tested it and it takes just 12 seconds to boot
[06:43] <harish> darolu, usb startup disk creator is in the process....i have a question meanwhile
[06:43] <darolu> harish, don't ask to ask a question just ask =)
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> roberj13: xkill if its a gui based app, or killall in cli for both daemons and gui apps
[06:44] <harish> can i replace the 32bit with 64bit staying inside the 32bit
[06:44] <harish> :)
[06:44] <abhi_nav> roberj13 add force icon to your gnome panel. then if your aps hangs then you click on this icon and then click on hanged aps and then that aps forcefully closed
[06:45] <ranjan> harish, no..you cant..coz the whole system will be build for the present architecture whether 64 or 32
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> harish: nope, clean install only i'm afraid
[06:45] <darolu> harish, I don't know of any method to do that; the closer thing I know, is to install a server-kernel, it helps when you have more that 3GB of RAM for example
[06:45] <letusgothen> Gñardlings
[06:45] <roberj13> abhi_nav, that worked, thanks, let's try this again
[06:46] <abhi_nav> roberj13 hmm :)
[06:46] <corigo> In 64 you can run 32 with backports, but not the reverse
[06:46] <abhi_nav> corigo: ahh ok
[06:46] <tehbaut> can I use the command "grub-install /dev/sda" if the /dev/sda disk has no linux install on it?
[06:46] <harish> i hope this time the clean install will work from usb
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> harish: as long as the image you dowloaded tested as ok and you mae it right it will work
[06:47] <darolu> yes, it is important to run md5sum check to iso files, always.
[06:48] <harish> ActionParsnip, i downloaded the image through direct download
[06:48] <harish> darolu, do i still test it
[06:48] <harish> i dont know anything about md5sum test
[06:48] <tehbaut> how do I install grub onto a disk without an ubuntu partition? grub is asking for a device for /boot/grub
[06:48] <tehbaut> should I put it on the windows partition?
[06:49] <darolu> harish, it is recommended to md5sum check everything, specially OS iso files
[06:49] <harish> darolu, how do i do that
[06:49] <darolu> harish, open a terminal and run "md5sum <yourfile>"
[06:49] <harish> darolu, ok
[06:49] <roberj13> today I finally broke myself of the windows pacifier and removed it from my computer :)
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> harish: doesnt matter, it still neds md5 testing
[06:50] <ardchoille> roberj13: yay!
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | harish
[06:50] <darolu> harish, it will print a large code, compare it to the ubuntu hashes, I'll link you in a moment
[06:50] <abhi_nav> roberj13  :)
[06:50] <afsal> hello can any1 help me connecting my modem i am new to ubuntu
[06:50] <darolu> harish, here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[06:50] <trinikrono> afsal: what kinda modem
[06:50] <roberj13> I was booting it less and less often, until I realized there's nothing on there that I do that I need it for, except sound which I just fixed
[06:50] <afsal> its wll wireless phone
[06:51] <trinikrono> afsal: a what?
[06:51] <afsal> usb modem
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> roberj13: most users find that too, gamers  are still tied if their stuffgames wont run native or via wine
[06:52] <abhi_nav> I read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit. helpful!!!
[06:52] <nicholas1988> the VIM portion of the command is not working but I think I set it up wrong
[06:52] <harish> darolu, how do know the path of the file
[06:53] <harish> i have it on my desktop
[06:53] <budah> im using Vim command to edit a config how can go back? ctrl and c dont seem to work lol
[06:53] <harish> how do i give the path
[06:53] <TrueSongMedia> So, is 10.04 going to have the WM buttons back where they should be? On the right?
[06:53] <trinikrono> afsal: i am not sure on that one
[06:53] <trinikrono> =\
[06:53] <jsoft> Vim eh. If only emacs had vim bindings.
[06:53] <edinho> budah, uses nano
[06:54] <harish> can i know the path by right clicking on it?
[06:54] <darolu> harish, type "md5sum /home/<user>/myfile" or simply "cd /path/to/the/file" and run the md5sum there
[06:54] <afsal> anybody who can help connecting my modem
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> !adsl | afsal
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | TrueSongMedia
[06:55] <afsal> i tried for the past 5 days it couldnt help
[06:55] <budah> vim how do i write?
[06:55] <TrueSongMedia> I know what it is, ActionParsnip
[06:55] <TrueSongMedia> I'm using it :P
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> TrueSongMedia: read the WHOLE factoid
[06:55] <afsal> i am new to ubuntu
[06:55] <jsoft> budah: :q!
[06:55] <TrueSongMedia> lol oh. Sorry. (not entirely awake)
[06:56] <edinho> budah, nano /yourfille
[06:56] <budah> ah yeh i got how it works now,
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> TrueSongMedia: np, yur whole support is there til release day
[06:56] <budah> strange stuff :/
[06:56] <darolu> afsal, try to be more specific, what kind of computer and modem do you have?
[06:56] <kk03> I have school computer :D
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> TrueSongMedia: but helping in here is no bad thing (i use lucid too)
[06:56] <kk03> Im in school
[06:56] <abhi_nav> kk03: ??
[06:56] <budah> im trying to setup mutt on ubuntu server from this tutorial from buntu forum
[06:56] <afsal> i have acer laptop and usb modem
[06:57] <abhi_nav> !ask | kk03
[06:57] <kk03> WTF?
[06:57] <harish> darolu, is there any other way to find the path
[06:57] <harish> i am not able to give the path
[06:57] <kk03> HAHAHA
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> afsal: have the modem attatched and run: lsusb   use the 8 character hex id to find guides online
[06:58] <harish> darolu, something like right clicking and knowing the path
[06:58] <darolu> harish, in Nautilus, click on the icon that is next (to the left) of the navigation buttons, below the "back" button
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> kk03: do you have an ubuntu question?
[06:58] <kk03> :D :d
[06:58] <kk03> :D
[06:58] <kk03> No you bastard
[06:58] <budah> yeh thx nano is alot better
[06:58] <kk03> looooooooooooool
[06:58] <kk03> "Blueghost" hahahaha
[06:58] <jsoft> :|
[06:58] <darolu> harish, that way you'll see the full path, right clicking on the file also works, it says "Place /home/etc/etc"
[06:58] <afsal> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[06:58] <afsal> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[06:58] <afsal> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 109b:3197
[06:58] <afsal> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[06:58] <afsal> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0421:002f Nokia Mobile Phones
[06:58] <FloodBot2> afsal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:58] <afsal> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[06:59] <abhi_nav> !paste | afsal
[06:59] <jsoft> Oink
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> afsal: dont flood like that, nobody needs the output but you, use the id of the phone in websearches to find guides
[07:00] <ireallydidreadit> Where can I ask a programming related question?
[07:00] <afsal> any ubbuntu nerd here
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> ireallydidreadit: #c #C++ #python #java
[07:00] <Aciid> ##programming?
[07:00] <darolu> ireallydidreadit, there are language-specific channels
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> ireallydidreadit: depends on the language
[07:00] <ireallydidreadit> It's a C related one
[07:00] <ireallydidreadit> Something I can't quite wrap my head around
[07:00] <darolu> ireallydidreadit, type /join #C
[07:01] <indianhacker> Does ubuntu have any selinux equivalent thing?
[07:01] <ireallydidreadit> indianhacker: It should
[07:01] <afsal> its not there in web
[07:01] <jsoft> I think it has selinux
[07:01] <abhi_nav> am i connected?
[07:01] <ireallydidreadit> Yes
[07:01] <abhi_nav> can anyone read me?
[07:01] <ireallydidreadit> Ping
[07:01] <afsal> its possible connecting with xp
[07:01] <ireallydidreadit> Pong
[07:01] <abhi_nav>  /ping is not replying
[07:02] <ireallydidreadit> You are connected
[07:02] <kaolbrec> abhi_nav, I see you.
[07:02] <afsal> yeah abinav
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> afsal: you need to use wvdial someway
[07:02] <ireallydidreadit> I wish #C didn't require registration :|
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> afsal: http://forum.daffodilvarsity.edu.bd/index.php?topic=15.0
[07:02] <jsoft> Just regsiter :)
[07:02] <indianhacker> ok jsoft i am trying it
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> ireallydidreadit: why, registration is FREE
[07:02] <ireallydidreadit> xP
[07:03] <afsal> i i tried with wvdial
[07:03] <kk03_> UBUNTU
[07:03] <kk03_> Ubuntu
[07:03] <kk03_> "LEaving"
[07:03] <kk03_> HAHAHA
[07:03] <kk03_> LOL
[07:03] <kk03_> PS
[07:03] <kk02> moro
[07:03] <jsoft> Are you trying to do normal dial up?
[07:03] <kk03_> Kato moro
[07:03] <kk02> XD
[07:04] <kk03_> MXD
[07:04] <kk02> lol
[07:04] <FloodBot2> kk03_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:04] <kk03_> Moro arttu
[07:04] <budah> :/ what do i put in gmails POP forwarding ? when it says forward a copy of incoming mail to?
[07:04] <harish> darolu, this is the path of the file
[07:05] <harish> my cursor is at harish@harishz:~$
[07:05] <budah> im trying to setup mutt but this tutorial is fat to advanced for my knowledge . of ubuntu lol
[07:05] <budah> far* >.<
[07:06] <jsoft> budah: why do you want to use mutt?
[07:06] <darolu> harish, ~/ means you are at your home directory, in your case: /home/harish if you downloaded the iso file to your Desktop simply type "cd Desktop" and it will show ~/Desktop$
[07:07] <afsal> did any1 get my wvdial  output
[07:07] <harish> darolu, when i type cd desktop it says no such file or directory
[07:07] <darolu> harish, try with a capital D ;) press TAB to auto-complete
[07:08] <harish> darolu, it worked
[07:08] <USS> Hmmm no one will respond to my greetings in #C, perhaps no one is listening >:|
[07:08] <darolu> harish, when it doubt, you can type "ls" to see the current directory content
[07:09] <afsal> hey wvdial says cannot open /dev/ttyusb0
[07:10] <afsal> any1
[07:12] <afsal> actionparsnip u there?
[07:12] <harish> darolu, the md5 Hash matches with ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:12] <sie> Are there some ati drivers in repos?
[07:12] <harish> so, it should work this time
[07:13] <afsal> darolu can u help me
[07:13] <darolu> harish, that's good news; yeah it should work, if you want to be extra-safe, when you boot from it, select the "check integrity of CD" (or similar, I don't remember the exact phrase)
[07:13] <harish> darolu, sure..will do...thanks...catch u in 64bit
[07:13] <eycel> can some one help me?
[07:13] <darolu> afsal, I don't have experience using wvdial, sorry
[07:14] <afsal> k
[07:14] <darolu> harish, good luck!
[07:14] <darolu> afsal, however when I deal with something new, I start with the manual; try typing "man wvdial" in your terminal
[07:14] <eycel> can some one check my site and tell me if its working in there firefox?  the site is http://www.mplays.co.cc
[07:15] <jsoft> eycel: ya it works.
[07:15] <eycel> can u make a comment in the news section for me, i just updated it...
[07:15] <eycel> thx btw
[07:15] <jsoft> I dunno, it contains news.
[07:16] <afsal> then what?
[07:16] <darolu> eycel, it works, but is kinda heavy, my firefox acts a bit slow
[07:16] <eycel> says comments
[07:16] <eycel> click on comments
[07:16] <eycel> and make one...
[07:16] <eycel> yes i have flash in it atm daroul
[07:17] <eycel> to slow to navigate?
[07:18] <darolu> eycel, I can navigate, it just scrolls kinda slow, then again, Firefox is not precisely the faster/lightest browser imo
[07:18] <eycel> ic
[07:18] <eycel> you have a gpu?
[07:19] <afsal> any1 help me with usb modem this is my last hope
[07:19] <darolu> Yes, I do
[07:20] <eycel> whats wrong adsal?
[07:20] <eycel> i know a bit about modems
[07:21] <darolu> afsal, type "lsusb" in your terminal and look for your modem, if you don't see it there you need to install the driver for it (or load the right module)
[07:21] <afsal> i can see my modem
[07:23] <letusgothen> Gñardlings
[07:23] <eycel> thx darlu...
[07:23] <darolu> np
[07:25] <darolu> eycel, your site works very neat in Webkit-based browsers
[07:26] <aruzsi> Hi, Please help me configure my fonts dir! Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit.
[07:26] <jsoft> I am bored.
[07:27] <darolu> eycel, jomlaa??
[07:27] <darolu> joomla*
[07:28] <aruzsi> I put my 9 pieces TTF fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-kofe and I use fc-cache -f -v command.
[07:28] <tsun> wanted to install firebug on ubuntu 9.10 but got following error: E: bugzilla3: subproces installed post-installation script gaf een foutwaarde 14 terug
[07:28] <tsun> anyone?
[07:29] <leagris> tsun, do you install firebug from an ubuntu repository or from a downloaded XPI ?
[07:29] <seb_> someone who can help in using an old radeon 9600 (3D) on 9.10 ?
[07:30] <tsun> from ubuntu repository
[07:30] <tsun> why that question?
[07:30] <leagris> tsun, I use XPI installed firebug with abrowser and it work ok (Ubuntu Karmic 64bit)
[07:30] <budah> .save
[07:31] <letusgothen> Gñardlings
[07:31] <leagris> tsun, ther may be differencies between packaged and XPI install. XPI install is only local to profile as packaged version is shared among all users.
[07:32] <budah> I'm trying to install a script for irssi but i cant find Put the script in ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun/ i know this is clueless but what am i doing wrong??
[07:32] <seb_> my poor  radeon 9600 don't let me play 3d games....can someone help ?
[07:32] <leagris> tsun, furthermore XPI installed extension are automatically updated when a new version is available. Apt installed extensions depend on packager maintainer to provide an update
[07:32] <darolu> seb_, that card is no longer supported by ATI :'( I have the same card
[07:33] <darolu> so there is not much we can do
[07:33] <tsun> great leagris, i'll check it out
[07:33] <tsun> txs
[07:33] <seb_> darolu, i know...but i was thinking that a xorg.conf genius could helped me!! :)
[07:34] <tsun> it's also f*cked up that i can't install the package anymore
[07:34] <ukebane> tsun it's a known bug which has been fixed in bugzilla 3.2.5.1-1
[07:34] <darolu> tsun, your best shot is to install it from: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843
[07:34] <ukebane> but ubuntu has an oldr version
[07:34] <darolu> imo
[07:34] <Berzerker> hi my wireless stopped working
[07:34] <ukebane> so what darolu said
[07:34] <Berzerker> doesn't show up in the icon on the notification bar
[07:34] <ukebane> Berzerker, is your dmesg saying anything?
[07:35] <Berzerker> hardware drivers says Broadcom STA isn't active, when I try to activate it, it says "Sorry, this installation failed"
[07:35] <afsal> ukebane do u know how to connect usb modem
[07:35] <leagris> UR welcome tsun. Here it is: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843
[07:36] <ukebane> Berzerker, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305906
[07:36] <tsun> firebug up 'n' running ;)
[07:36] <tsun> txs all
[07:36] <ukebane> afsal, sorry, no :(
[07:36] <Berzerker> ukebane, <Berzerker> hardware drivers says Broadcom STA isn't active, when I try to activate it, it says "Sorry, this installation failed"
[07:36] <afsal> tsun
[07:37] <nine1> Where can I see what kind of gfx card I have?
[07:38] <nine1> I mean with what tool?
[07:39] <leagris> nine1, open a shell console and type lspci | grep VGA
[07:40] <tehbaut> how can I remove grub2 from the MBR without destroying the MBR?
[07:40] <nine1> leagris: Thanks.
[07:40] <afsal> leagris do u know how to connect usb modem
[07:40] <kyppcgeek> hello everyone
[07:40] <cactacaea> I use Ubuntu, and I decided to try out xfce (apt-get install xfce-desktop) and decided i didn't like it and uninstalled it, but by main login page when I boot up is still saying "XFCE desktop", how can I cahnge that back?
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[07:42] <darolu> cactacaea, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[07:42] <cactacaea> darolu: Thanks
[07:42] <leagris> afsal, never done it myself but what kind of modem is it? DSL/cable/brand, does it show with lsusb?
[07:43] <seb_> should i get a previous version of ubuntu to use the radeon 9600 for 3d gaming?
[07:43] <seb_> i mean, is it a good idea?
[07:43] <darolu> seb_, well technically you only need an old kernel
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> Darlou: and an older xorg version maybe?
[07:44] <darolu> true
[07:44] <seb_> yes, how can make that?
[07:44] <seb_> i'm pretty new in ubuntu
[07:45] <leagris> seb_, your best bet is getting a cheap but modern video card. You will get same performance or better with a cheap $30 gfx card
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: I think jaunty will do it, intrepid dies next month
[07:45] <seb_> and the use of this graphic card is my only "problem"
[07:45] <darolu> seb_, uhmmm I think adding 8.04 repositories could work, and install the old stuff that way
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: +1 to leargis
[07:45] <kyppcgeek> guys im on pirc. where is ubuntu partition manager?
[07:46] <darolu> seb_, I would install 8.04 though
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Kyppc
[07:46] <kyppcgeek> yeah action
[07:46] <afsal> i got tired of ubuntu
[07:46] <darolu> You can install the legacy driver (ATI Catalyst 9.3) in Jaunty either
[07:46] <seb_> Thanks for all your advices!!
[07:46] <kyppcgeek> seboyan is too limikting
[07:46] <ukebane> Berzerker, you tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305906 too?
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Kyppcgeek: you can use gparted, parted, fdisk, cfdisk to name 2
[07:46] <darolu> afsal, I heard google is a powerful friend... use it
[07:47] <kyppcgeek> from gnome?
[07:47] <darolu> you CAN'T install ATI Legacy driver in Jaunty*
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Kyppcgeek: gparted will run in gnome
[07:47] <seb_> hum...
[07:47] <kyppcgeek> k
[07:47] <kyppcgeek> tx
[07:47] <seb_> what should i understand?
[07:48] <darolu> seb_, try with 8.04 it is a LTS, I think it is supported until April 2011
[07:48] <AbortD> whats the ubuntu lucid channel?
[07:48] <kyppcgeek> I would recommend Linux Mint instead of Saboyan
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: grab a cheap nvidia card and you will have a super easy life
[07:48] <darolu> #lucid+l I think
[07:48] <darolu> !lucid
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> Abortd: #ubuntu+1
[07:48] <AbortD> thx
[07:49] <seb_> it's a real dilema
[07:49] <nine1> What's the name of repo for non open ATI drivers?
[07:49] <loquitus> So how do I figure out who/what is using UDP port 162 on my machine?
[07:49] <darolu> seb_, what ActionParsnip said is true, nvidia has far better support for Linux
[07:49] <seb_> buying a new card...formatting my hard disk and getting a previous version...
[07:49] <leagris> loquitus, sudo fuser -v -n udp 162
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> Nine1: its in the default repos, the hardware driver app will install the driver if it sees you can use it
[07:50] <darolu> nine1, I don't know of a repo for ATI drivers, but you can use jockey or go to ATI website
[07:50] <kyppcgeek> next question. how does one find the UUID?
[07:50] <loquitus> leagris: great. that returned nothing, yet my SNMP trap daemon is saying it can't get at 162
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: just a new card is all you need
[07:50] <darolu> kyppcgeek, with "sudo blkid"
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> Kyppcgeek: sudo blkid
[07:50] <cactacaea> darolu: It didn't work.
[07:51] <seb_> that's a pity cause, i bought this card 6 months ago in order to replace my (very) old geforce mx 440...
[07:51] <nine1> ActionParsnip: Which app? (name of it)
[07:51] <leagris> loquitus, ports <1024 are only allowed by root or root loaded processes
[07:51] <cactacaea> I use Ubuntu, and I decided to try out xfce (apt-get install xfce-desktop) and decided i didn't like it and uninstalled it, but by main login page when I boot up is still saying "XFCE desktop", how can I cahnge that back?
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> Nine1: gksudo jockey-gtk
[07:52] <nine1> ActionParsnip: What exactly should it do? ;-D
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> cactacaea: sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm ,may do it
[07:52] <darolu> cactacaea, that's the only way I know, when you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" it asks you what graphical login you want to use ?
[07:52] <loquitus> leagris: then something really weird is going on... net-snmp won't open port 162
[07:52] <commander_> hey i tries 2 run safari 4 via Wine and try to uninstall wine to do over help
[07:52] <darolu> if you have gdm installed that is
[07:52] <Timberly> Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> Nine1: bring up a dialogue to install the driver, its also in the system -> admin menu labelled hardware drivers
[07:52] <seb_> ActionParsnip: thanks for advice, do you have an idea of a AGP card that i could buy for a small price?
[07:53] <leagris> seb_, guess qhat, nvidia publish binary black boxes blobs for linux and they still support these very old cards. Ati did not provide open source drivers until recently and has showed interest in free software only recently. Unfortunately their older cards are abandonware.
[07:53] <nine1> Timberly: My system broke. ._.
[07:53] <theadmin> Timberly: Do not post such stuff, also, Ubuntu doesn't allow that
[07:53] <cactacaea> darolu: it didn't ask me anything
[07:53] <darolu> Timberly, don't try that...
[07:53] <IP-v6> hi
[07:53] <IP-v6> does anybody who use ppa:daily for chromium has got font rendering problem ?
[07:53] <nine1> Timberly: You forgot --no-preserve-root
[07:53] <cactacaea> darolu: it just waited a few seconds and then went back to the main prompt
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> Seb: geforce6 will be mega cheap and run well
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> Ip-v6: I use chromium daily, its flawless
[07:53] <seb_> thanks guys! you're very nice
[07:53] <theadmin> What is the command to download a Bazaar branch? "push" does not seem to be it :/
[07:54] <seb_> i will look for a geforce6 so!!
[07:54] <darolu> cactacaea, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" it should run a program that asks you what graphical login you want to use; maybe it uninstalled gdm when you installed xfce? try reinstalling it "sudo apt-get install gdm"
[07:54] <IP-v6> ActionParsnip, yesterday i ve updated chromium and fonts were realy ugly
[07:55] <theadmin> darolu: XFCE uses GDM in Ubuntu
[07:55] <IP-v6> removed and installed chrome froum google
[07:55] <brando753> will i be able to print with an infred device in ubuntu
[07:55] <brando753> ?
[07:55] <Timberly> ?
[07:55] <Tapout> is there a way to measure the video performance on a video card with ubuntu?
[07:55] <leagris> seb_, there are cheapo Nvidia 3x0 lower end cards now
[07:55] <Timberly> is there a way to measure the video performance on a video card with ubuntu?
[07:55] <Timberly> seb_, there are cheapo Nvidia 3x0 lower end cards now
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> Ip-v6: I haven't ran it for 15 hours due to work but I'll try it later. Log a bug if its bad
[07:55] <Timberly> Ip-v6: I haven't ran it for 15 hours due to work but I'll try it later. Log a bug if its bad
[07:55] <IP-v6> now fonts are realy good
[07:55] <FloodBot2> Timberly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:55] <Timberly> now fonts are realy good
[07:55] <Timberly> Timberly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:55] <IP-v6> wit stable chrome
[07:55] <Timberly> wit stable chrome
[07:55] <IP-v6> with*
[07:56] <Timberly> with*
[07:56] <darolu> theadmin, oh I see, so it only changed cactacea's theme
[07:56] <Timberly> theadmin, oh I see, so it only changed cactacea's theme
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> Ip-v6: as long as I can webbrowse I'm happy
[07:56] <Timberly> Ip-v6: as long as I can webbrowse I'm happy
[07:56] <FloodBot2> Timberly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <Timberly> Timberly: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <theadmin> !ops | Timberly repeats everyone's messages
[07:56] <Timberly> !ops | Timberly repeats everyone's messages
[07:56] <Timberly> Timberly repeats everyone's messages: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) -  elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi01,
[07:57] <brando753> will i be able to print with an infred device in ubuntu
[07:57] <pider> anyone know if there are someone working on a driver for this webcam:  041e:4055 Creative Technology, Ltd Live! Cam Video IM Pro
[07:57] <theadmin> brando753: Most likely yes, you might need additional software though
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> Brando753: there's a question about it on launchpad questions I posted an answer to, not sure if it worked
[07:58] <Tapout> is there a way to measure the video performance on a video card with ubuntu?
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> Pider: websearch for the 8 character hex id, you will find guide
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> S
[07:58] <seb_> glxgears
[07:58] <brando753> the printer is A sIPIX portable printer its available as an option for printer drivers, Im just worried about the infred
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: its not a good test
[07:58] <theadmin> There, found it. "bzr branch lp:anewt". Now, where the hell is it saving it? o_O
[07:58] <brando753> before i buy it
[07:58] <WhatAmIDoingHere> try before you buy
[07:59] <IP-v6> ActionParsnip, how can i log a bug for chromium daily ? from launchped ?
[07:59] <brando753> ebay, so I cant
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Ip-v6: look on the ppa page it should say
[07:59] <harry> helo
[07:59] <pider> I try that
[07:59] <IP-v6> ActionParsnip, ok
[07:59] <seb_> it looks like if geforce 6 is for PCI express bus
[08:00] <jussi01> theadmin: in the folder where you called that from..
[08:00] <seb_> and i'm with an agp slot
[08:00] <theadmin> jussi01: oh crap, so it will end up in my home folder :/ will have a hard time sorting it all out
[08:00] <jussi01> theadmin: it usually puts a folder there
[08:00] <leagris> seb_, if you can get hand on a Geforce 5700 these where awesome
[08:01] <theadmin> jussi01: Phew, it did.
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> Tapout:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=274157
[08:01] <darolu> IP-v6, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/list works for me
[08:01] <xp> hi
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: then go one down to geforce5
[08:02] <seb_> ok
[08:02] <IP-v6> darolu, thanks i'm looking
[08:02] <leagris> seb_, PNY GeForce 6200 - 512 Mo TV-Out/DVI - AGP (NVIDIA GeForce 6200)
[08:02] <seb_> i maybe shoudln't have put the mx 440 in a trash box that fast...
[08:03] <seb_> O.o
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Leagris: I have that in my main system but onboard :)
[08:03] <xp> h
[08:03] <leagris> seb_, you wold have gotten some bucks out of it at ebay :)
[08:03] <seb_> I read different infos...
[08:04] <theadmin> What happened to mirrors? :/ I can't download php5-cli because it sezzit that server not found
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> !info php5-cli
[08:04] <xp> gggg
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: its on the main repo, weird
[08:04] <seb_> leagris: you're right, it's agp 8x
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: does: sudo apt-get update ,help?
[08:05] <leagris> seb_, for twice that price there is  	
[08:05] <leagris> NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT - 128 Mo TV-Out/DVI - AGP
[08:05] <kyppcgeek> ewww
[08:05] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Let's try...
[08:05] <tehbaut> Losha: hot dang, it turns out I got taken by a longstanding ubuntu installer bug :/
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Leagris, the 6200 was 512mb ;)
[08:06] <darolu> leagris, how much is the 6200? I may change my radeon 9600
[08:06] <seb_> anyway, i'm mother card limited (AGP 4 x)
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: then it will run at 4x
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Seb_: agp will run as fast as the slowest part
[08:06] <seb_> Yes, my 9600 is running in  4x
[08:07] <sharetel> Hi all, I wish to install a network printer on Ubuntu to be used by users on Windows. Is it necessary to configure Samba for this?
[08:07] <seb_> i was thinking about the memory, 512 or 128 ?
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Sharetel: its one way
[08:07] <tehbaut> Losha: apparently, ubuntu installs grub to the first connected disk... I installed ubuntu to a disk via usb, though... so my main disk's MBR got fudged
[08:07] <leagris> seb_, 36,94 €
[08:07] <theadmin> I get the following, ActionParsnip: П: Не удалось загрузить http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/universe/i18n/Translation-ru.gz  Ошибка чтения, удалённый сервер прервал соединение [IP: 91.189.88.45 80] (W: Could not download... url here... Read error, remote server closed the connection) and then the ip
[08:07] <seb_> 512 should be useless, no?
[08:08] <sharetel> Action: One way as in?
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Sharetel: I did it that way, you can also setup cups nice to appear as a proint server and samba won't be needed
[08:08] <seb_> leagris: from wich one did you give the price?
[08:08] <leagris> seb_, depend if you plan on running windows games within wine
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: can you ping the server?
[08:09] <seb_> no, i would like to play spring TA
[08:09] <seb_> i guess that i won't use windows any more
[08:09] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/399162/
[08:09] <seb_> in 2 months, i understood the power of linux
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: try a different server in software sources, maybe that one is having issues
[08:09] <sharetel> Yes, my intention is to install CUPS but am just too confused to understand it...there are two printers..HP2015 and HP2015dn. I would like to try the normal USB printer HP2015. Is it possible to use it on CUPS as a network printer?
[08:09] <Lovie> Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[08:10] <tehbaut> Losha: that explains why I thought the MBR from one disk got magically copied to another disk, when actually I only cloned two partitions via DD ...it just so happens that I had only recently installed ubuntu, so I didn't boot back into the fudged disk until after I both: installed ubuntu, and cloned those partitions
[08:10] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Give me a sources.list line, i don't have a desktop environment...
[08:10] <tehbaut> Losha: I just thought I'd fill you in ;)
[08:10] <leagris> seb_, I intensively play Everquest2 within cedega and wine and that takes my 320GTX to its max
[08:10] <Lovie> Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[08:11] <lorenzosu> op?
[08:11] <lorenzosu> !op
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: change the archive.ubuntu.com to gb.archive.ubuntu.com save the file and run apt-get update and see if its better
[08:11] <seb_> in fact, i booight the 9600 in order to play spring TA witgh better quality
[08:11] <Lovie> Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[08:11] <seb_> but it needed the lowest graphic details to run correctly
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Leargis: is cedega worth the cash?
[08:11] <Marlon> Hey kids at home, try this command: rm -rfv /*
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> !danger
[08:12] <leagris> ActionParsnip, not anymore but it work for Everquest2
[08:12] <elky> lorenzosu, ugh, sorry. next time do "!op | naughty person" and it'll happen quicker
[08:12] <lorenzosu> elky, oh thanks
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Leargis: I guess you gotta cough up and pay the man sometimes huh :(
[08:12] <lorenzosu> elky, where naughty person is the nick right?
[08:12] <elky> lorenzosu, correct
[08:13] <lorenzosu> elky, ok thanks
[08:13] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Hm, that seems to work.
[08:13] <seb_> do you know spring TA?
[08:14] <leagris> ActionParsnip, indeed I was dissapointed but it is off topic here. I guess wine work nicely beside it has some crash issues in EQ2, but it is realy free software.
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: guess the server you were accessing was being messed with. The uk server isn't right now (apparently) so will do you :)
[08:14] <theadmin> Now, any idea... i downloaded the anewt thing, but... err... makes no sense what to do next %)
[08:14] <aprilhare> hello. i found my system wouldn't boot when I got home; I had placed it into hibernation before leaving home. - I've booted off cd and am running fsck right now - but before it kept on dropping me to a shell and complaining it couldn't find the root partition... do i need to worry? - the main linux partition mounted fine when I accessed it after booting from cd
[08:14] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I was downloading from us.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Theadmin: well now others folks know to look out :)
[08:15] <Cue> hey hey guys, hey...guys hey
[08:15] <Cue> with an ISO from ubuntu.com, does the repos come with the iso?
[08:15] <leagris> ActionParsnip, here is my Ubuntu box running EQ2: http://www.noiraude.net/videos/eq2linux.ogv
[08:15] <Cue> because I ordered a cd a long time ago, and I could apt-get from that disk, but with just a normal ISO, if you install it to a disk, can you use the repos?
[08:15] <theadmin> Cue: repos? Installer generates a sources.list on install, or on Live CD start
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> Aprilhare: check your /etc/fstab on the root internal partition and make sure it matches the output of: sudo blkid
[08:16] <malifal> !postfix
[08:16] <jaypetey> Can anyone tell me why "* * * * * /home/joe/scripts/system/wallpaper.py" wouldn't work with crontab? (I'm only running it every minute as for testing purposes)
[08:16] <Cue> theadmin, well friend needs to get wicd without an internet connection
[08:16] <Cue> to obtain a connection to the internet
[08:16] <aprilhare> ActionParsnip, correct it manually if not?
[08:16] <theadmin> Cue: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Aprilhare: sure, backup the current one before also
[08:17] <theadmin> jaypetey: Do you really expect it to execute like a program? :/ put "python " before the path
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Leargis: on a phone on not g3 that will take ages, sorry dude
[08:17] <malifal> !MailServer
[08:17] <aprilhare> ActionParsnip, anything else or just panic? :)
[08:17] <llutz> jaypetey: your python script is executable and has a corrrrect shebang?
[08:18] <Cue> theadmin, I don't think you get it - it's not me, and he doesn't have connection to the internet, I remember on my old disk I could apt-get from the CD, like I was installed, and not on the internet, but there were some packages on the CD itself.
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> Aprilhare: can't think of anyhting else
[08:18] <Cue> Like build-essential and stuff
[08:18] <leagris> ActionParsnip, ;d yes sorry
[08:18] <Jordan_U> Cue: You are thinking of the DVD.
[08:18] <jaypetey> theadmin, it should execute like a program, since it has the correct shebang, and is marked executable (can run from terminal no problems)
[08:18] <jaypetey> llutz, yes, it is/does
[08:18] <Jordan_U> Cue: The DVD images contain all of main.
[08:18] <theadmin> Cue: There are on DVD, not on CD
[08:18] <aprilhare> can anyone remember that POP3 also has functionality "POP3 Send"? I remember that the mail client YAM for Amiga used to support POP3 Send
[08:18] <seb_> guys: what do you think about this card ?
[08:18] <seb_> http://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/97813130.htm?ca=11_s
[08:19] <Cue> oh
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Cue: you can use the cd as a repo, there's not as much as the dvd though
[08:19] <aprilhare> it was superior to SMTP however few clients supported POP3 Send
[08:19] <jaypetey> theadmin, but i'll give the "python ..." a try
[08:19] <leagris> seb_, are you from france?
[08:19] <Cue> and when you 'order' a copy from ubuntu.com they send you the dvd?
[08:19] <seb_> yes
[08:19] <Haffe> seb_: Make sure it's not a 6200TC at least.
[08:19] <theadmin> jaypetey: Well, crontab messes stuff a lot...
[08:19] <Jordan_U> Cue: Not for the free service.
[08:20] <llutz> theadmin: it doesn't
[08:21] <jaypetey> theadmin, llutz, if it still doesn't work, do you know what my first step in fixing it would be?
[08:21] <seb_> 29 e is cheap no?
[08:21]  * aprilhare looks over the POP3 wiki and iscovers a reference to "XTND XMIT" but holds little hope that any Ubuntu compatible client supports such POP3 extensions - does anyone know different?
[08:21] <llutz> jaypetey: its listed with "crontab -l"?
[08:21] <jaypetey> llutz, yessir
[08:22] <llutz> jaypetey: isn't it started at all or does it just not work as expected?
[08:22] <theadmin> jaypetey: And does the user who the crontab belongs to have exec permissions?
[08:23] <jaypetey> llutz, don't think it's starting (the script is only 3 lines, kind of hard to tell but should work)
[08:23] <jaypetey> theadmin, the user is me (or this account) which is the same account for the crontab and who created the script
[08:23] <tehbaut> is there a ctrl+alt+del for shutdown (instead of reboot) when at the grub interface?
[08:24] <llutz> jaypetey: add something like "date >/tmp/scriptcheck" to the beginning of your script to check if it runs
[08:25] <EviLz> Almost FUD(Undetected by Most Antivirus) link to httpbotnet with sandbox report and binary -> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QROLABXQ (The Password to the .zip is password) Trying to get this nasty sob report as the nets total count is surpassing 100k+ and no-one seems to want to toutch it.
[08:25] <jaypetey> llutz, would that be a bash line?
[08:25] <llutz> jaypetey: use python if youlike, i don't know how to do it in py
[08:26] <jaypetey> llutz, just making sure, i can run bash from python
[08:26] <llutz> jaypetey: ah ok
[08:26] <VEvilz> anyone see that link or know somewhere the binary can be submitted?
[08:26] <amateja> hi, I get 'hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4' in /var/log/kernel.log while usb drive is plugged in and I'm not able to use any usb drive
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[08:27] <amateja> I'd be grateful for any help
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: wassup?
[08:27] <ShazNipples> VEvilz, what? You want a binary converter?
[08:27] <VEvilz> so would i lol
[08:27] <ShazNipples> To english?
[08:28] <Jordan_U> !ops | VEvilz
[08:28] <VEvilz> i posted under nick Evilz but got hit by smap filter
[08:28] <VEvilz> **spam
[08:28] <VEvilz> megaupload link is to active botnet exe with #s over 100k
[08:28] <VEvilz> spreading like a mfer
[08:28] <VEvilz> trying to find somewhere to report it
[08:28] <ShazNipples> oh hi Jordan_U
[08:28] <ShazbotMcNasty> lol
[08:29] <elky> VEvilz, what are you doing?
[08:29] <VEvilz> [VEvilz] trying to find somewhere to report it || get it reported
[08:29] <amateja> ActionParsnip: I have IBM T42, Kubuntu 9.10 and a cannot use any usb drive - I solved this issue on PLD Linux Distribiution with unloading ehci_hcd module
[08:29] <VEvilz> link to httpbotnet with sandbox report and binary -> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QROLABXQ (The Password to the .zip is password)
[08:29] <VEvilz> ""
[08:29] <Jordan_U> VEvilz: Stop posting that link
[08:29] <amateja> ActionParsnip: but on Kubuntu I have no such module
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: have you checked http://laptop-linux.com
[08:30] <xmarux> Do any of the major music players like Rhythmbox, Banshee or even Songbird support music playing from an archive such as a 7zip archive?
[08:30] <s33ker> I am getting the following error while using apt-get Install "libxcb-render0-dev: Depends: libxcb-render0 (= 1.1.93-0ubuntu3) but 1.1.93-0ubuntu3.1 is to be installed". Any idea how this error can be resolved?
[08:30] <jaypetey> llutz, ok, turns out it is running... just not doing what it's supposed to. at least now i know it's not cron's fault. it's place to start
[08:30] <VEvilz> srsly?
[08:30] <Rake> Having an issue with getting sound working with ubuntu 9.10,  have looked through forums with out anything working,  in sound the sound card does not seem to be there with output being listed as 'dummy'.  Sound card is onboard on a asus p5n32e SLi plus.
[08:30] <llutz> jaypetey: happy debugging, shouldn't be hard with 3 lines :)
[08:30] <wgrant> xmarux: Not directly, no. Why?
[08:30] <elky> VEvilz, this channel has nothing to do with botnets
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: have a read of dmesg | tail -n 20 ,when you attach a usb device too
[08:30] <VEvilz> yes but it is a linux based channel
[08:30] <amateja> ActionParsnip: well - no I haven't
[08:31] <VEvilz> with a large user base
[08:31] <jaypetey> llutz, cron runs as me, right? (or as the user who's logged in when you edit crontab)
[08:31] <VEvilz> which would mean it is very likely someone might know who i should be talking to
[08:31] <xmarux> Cause of the way I do backups, it's easier on the server if i archive my albums before uploading instead of sending a bunch of small requests so i like to read from an archive, i can in windows in foobar2000
[08:31] <VEvilz> or where it can be posted
[08:31] <elky> VEvilz, this is a support channel for directl ubuntu related issues, not a soapbox
[08:31] <llutz> jaypetey: your crontab is run as you, right
[08:31] <amateja> ActionParsnip: dmesg | tails -n 20 shows me onlye that message and nothing more
[08:31] <wgrant> xmarux: That sounds like a buggy backup system.
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Xmarux: audio files don't compress well, if you use fileroller or arkiver etc you can tell it to open the file from there
[08:32] <poent> Hello everyone. I just installed 9.10 and have been having some issues setting up my wireless card. Would anyone mind giving me a hand? I'm using a WMP300N linksys pci card and have followed several tutorials online to no avail.
[08:32] <xmarux> wow, thanks for not helping at all
[08:32] <llutz> jaypetey: crontab -u <yourusernam> -l              to be sure
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: its tail not tails
[08:33] <eycel> does any one know if you can use a usb wireless card on ubunto live cd?
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> Poent: the make and model is fairly moot, run: sudo lshw -C network ,you will see the chip used and can find guides using that
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: sure you can
[08:34] <eycel> myn wont connect?
[08:34] <amateja> ActionParsnip: it's only a typo on irc - i did it correctly in console
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: have you given it a driver?
[08:35] <eycel> well its just plug-play
[08:35] <eycel> how do i give it one?
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: ok then run: dmesg , and read the last few lines. It should show the kernel reacting to the insert.
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: run: sudo lshw -C network ,websearch for the product line to find guides how to set it up
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: usb by definition is plug and play
[08:36] <eycel> well its a belkin wireless n
[08:36] <eycel> ...
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: laptoplinux site may give some clues
[08:37] <ariza> helloooo... how to install ubuntu in sbc board???
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: belkin don't make the chip in the device so "belkin" doesn't tell us much
[08:37] <amateja> ActionParsnip: dmesg shows me the same - only this message
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: the command I gave will tell you which chip is used and you can find guides
[08:37] <amateja> ActionParsnip: I'll check up those sites
[08:38] <poent> ActionParsnip: i've been using the product ID to search already. The driver is installed already with ndiswrapper. When i open up the gui for ndis i get the error "unable to see if hardware is present".
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: it may be a broadcom or an atheros, those are quite common
[08:39] <amateja> ActionParsnip: but I have this issues even on Kubuntu LiveCD and I think there is something no entirely right
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: maybe there's a config you need in a conf file, or a package etc.
[08:40] <eycel> i pasted it to u
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: use a pastebin in future please. Don't pm to spam me like that
[08:40] <eycel> pastebin?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: does: sudo iwlist scan ,find APs?
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> !paste | eycel
[08:41] <amateja> ActionParsnip: there's only description of installing Ubuntu 5.10, well it's rather too old :)
[08:41] <psycho_oreos> poent, I'd check to see if there's any interfaces that has wireless extensions if not, the ndis driver maybe missing firmware
[08:42] <amateja> ActionParsnip: i think my issue will remain unresolved
[08:42] <gheddy_zarc> massive lag can I get a ping pls
[08:42] <eycel> it brings up interface with like 10 different words
[08:42] <amateja> ActionParsnip: thanks anyway
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: true but it may still work. Just backup any files you edit etc so you can roll back
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: just because you think its old doesn't mean it won't work
[08:43] <poent> psycho_oreos, i didnt see any that had wireless extensions. Only my onboard eth connections were showing up. If it is missing firmware how do I go about adding it or finding it?
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: can you pastebin the output please
[08:43] <root> hey
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> !hi | root
[08:43] <psycho_oreos> poent, usually if its in the case of ndis, it would be the accompanying .sys file is missing or invalid for the driver
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> Thanks psycho_
[08:44] <psycho_oreos> poent, though I'd much prefer you to tell me what is the lspci -nnk or lsusb output into pastebin so maybe I can assist you better
[08:44] <psycho_oreos> ActionParsnip, :o np
[08:45] <madsen> this 10.04 is greeeat
[08:45] <eycel> k gimie sec
[08:45] <psycho_oreos> !lucid | madsen
[08:45] <eycel> do i need to signup to launchpad oe something?
[08:45] <amateja> ActionParsnip: what if i'd like to have system more up to date? issue can show up again after update
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> Amateja: possibly, you can say that about any config though
[08:47] <eycel> ok here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/399172/plain/
[08:47] <poent> psycho_oreos, Here you go. http://pastebin.org/119757
[08:47] <madsen> haha ubottu
[08:47] <madsen> alrite
[08:48] <psycho_oreos> poent, seems like a better option for you is to use wl
[08:48] <psycho_oreos> poent, less hassles
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: you get that from: sudo iwlist scan
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: is that right?
[08:49] <eycel> hmm
[08:49] <eycel> gimie min
[08:49] <eycel> il do it again
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> Cool
[08:50] <poent> psycho_oreos, I'm not familiar enough with ubuntu to know what you mean. wl means wireless Lan right?
[08:50] <psycho_oreos> poent, no no, in this case the wl is the proprietary driver by broadcom for your broadcom wireless device
[08:51] <psycho_oreos> !broadcom | poent
[08:52] <eycel> ok here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/399174/
[08:52] <psycho_oreos> poent, you need to follow this precisely: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Installing%20b43/STA%20hybrib%20drivers
[08:52] <poent> psycho_oreos, alrighty thanks. I'll give it a try
[08:52] <igoryonya> is /etc like "Program files" in windows and /home, like "Documents and Settings" ?
[08:52] <eycel> here it is action http://paste.ubuntu.com/399174/
[08:53] <poent> psycho_oreos, Do you think i should attempt to remove ndiswrapper and any other driver leftovers before starting this? or should it not matter?
[08:53] <psycho_oreos> igoryonya, not exactly, but on the point of /home is somewhat
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> Thanks, stupid connection reset
[08:53] <psycho_oreos> poent, probably good idea to blacklist it, if not familiar with blacklisting, then I'd remove ndiswrapper
[08:53] <igoryonya> what is like windows in Windows?
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: great, its picking up APs so its working :)
[08:53] <psycho_oreos> igoryonya, / generally
[08:53] <poent> will do, thanks again
[08:54] <psycho_oreos> poent, np
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: if you use the network tool in the top right you can connect to your network etc
[08:54] <eycel> iv had it working before, but the last time i attempted it it wouldnt connect
[08:54] <igoryonya> I am trying to figure out what is the purpose of each folder in Linux.
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Igoryonya: in windows, windows is like windows
[08:54] <llutz> !fhs > igoryonya
[08:55] <eycel> im not sure if its my network or what
[08:55] <eycel> but it just wont connect
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Igoryonya: I wouldn't worry too much, just get a flavour. It not overly important tbh
[08:55] <lyt> +i
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Eycel: network manager will get you connected, its part of a standard install
[08:56] <lyt> +i
[08:56] <rednammoc> hi guys. how to determine, which users has been logged in to my machine during my absence ?
[08:56] <llutz> rednammoc: last
[08:56] <rednammoc> llutz: thx :)
[08:56] <igoryonya> ActionParsnip: From my experience, of working on coputers, you figure out the file/folder structure, you figure out the computer. Everything else is the matter of logic.
[08:57] <llutz> igoryonya: if you know about the folder-layout, lots of things are easier to understand (permissions etc)
[08:58] <igoryonya> llutz: that's exactly, what I am saying.
[08:58] <llutz> igoryonya: it's just hard to learn, since it's completly different from DOS/Win
[08:59] <psycho_oreos> though it shares similar base with other *nixes
[08:59] <Fudge> hi, i have some questions about gparted and general partitioning. How come I have two lots of unpartitioned space and cant join them together? is it correct for my extended partition to be a partitio nlike sda2 and then fo rthe logical drive using all of that extended partition to be sda5? Last, I read that ufs and other filesystems can be created in ubuntu gparted but I do not know how to access, right clicking some free space only allows
[09:00] <igoryonya> llutz: yes, @ least I've found where my "documents and settings"-like and where all of the "drive-letters"-like are :). /home and /mount
[09:00] <igoryonya> llutz: that's to start with.
[09:00] <eycel> any one get wireless to work on ubunto live cd?
[09:01] <psycho_oreos> eycel, not that I've tried via livecd but I'd imagine its similar to a real install except settings will be lost on reboot
[09:01] <babalu> hi, is there a way to check the battery status in command line?
[09:01] <babalu> and is there a way to get the computer to sleep when we are without server X? or is that a server X feature?
[09:01] <eycel> for the life of me it wont connect
[09:01] <eycel> ...
[09:01] <eycel> it shows all my network stuff
[09:01] <leagris> Fudge, yes this is all correct. Though if you use no more than 4 partition on a disk you may create only primary type partitions. this save some little space and they will be named sdx1 - sdx4 only
[09:01] <eycel> just wont connect
[09:01] <psycho_oreos> igoryonya, drive-letters are partial under /mount.. there's also /dev/{h,s}dX
[09:01] <LinuxGuy2009> Is there any way to export the radiance and ambience themes from Lucid thats installed on my netbook to put onto 9.04 installation on my desktop or is there a tar.gz of theme somewhere I can download?
[09:01] <eycel> it always comes up disconnect
[09:02] <igoryonya> eycel: for me it worked out of the box. My liveCD was 8.10 64bit version, the Cisco WiFi card
[09:02] <psycho_oreos> eycel, can you please pastebin your lspci -nnk output or lsusb output into pastebin?
[09:02] <eycel> whats command sudo lspci -nnk?
[09:02] <Fudge> leagris thanks, ok so logicals are sda5-, how about the other filesystems to create?
[09:02] <psycho_oreos> eycel, well sudo I don't think is needed but yeah, you'll need to execute that in terminal
[09:02] <jsoft> Anyone used the Lenovo S10 IdeaPad's ?
[09:03] <leagris> babalu, look at the acpi tools
[09:03] <babalu> leagris: thanks
[09:03] <abhi_nav> hi
[09:03] <igoryonya> psycho_oreos: /dev/{h,s}dX have unmounted partitions, right?
[09:04] <psycho_oreos> igoryonya, fyi if you google "linux filesystem" you'll find a fair few basic info about the differences between windows and linux filesystem structures
[09:04] <llutz> igoryonya: that are the device-nodes representing your drives
[09:04] <darolu> !fhs | igoryonya
[09:04] <eycel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/399179/
[09:04] <psycho_oreos> igoryonya, they're mainly block/raw devices, some may be mounted, some may not be mounted, one or few maybe related to root fs and others are generally unattached block devices
[09:05] <leagris> babalu, cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/info ...
[09:05] <eycel> although wireless here has been some what shooty
[09:05] <eycel> ....
[09:05] <psycho_oreos> eycel, "lspci -nnk" (without quotes)
[09:06] <zbrahead91-dedi> Anyone here know how to make the git kernel source into a PPA source package?
[09:06] <eycel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/399180/
[09:07] <meowbuntu> would anyone know an easy way to boot multipul os from a usb. say puppylinux, ubuntu, etc.
[09:07] <babalu> leagris: which line should i look at?
[09:08] <igoryonya> psycho_oreos: I've found a linux filesystem howto on the net, it's just about 100 pages long, I started reading, it. It just will take a while before I finish reading it. I was just running ahead, asking questions here, because I wanted to know the most needed directories for me, so, I already clicked on the link, presented by ubottu to see what it says.
[09:08] <psycho_oreos> eycel, I gather this is USB wireless device?
[09:08] <eycel> yes wireless n belkin
[09:08] <eycel> on an alienware laptop
[09:09] <psycho_oreos> eycel, ahh belkin, it'll go back to the first pastebin, gotcha.. now I'm going to search
[09:09] <ranjan> hello every body today i installed electric sheep on ubuntu 9.10  and also i have managed an copy of sheep from my friend .. so can any body can tell me in which folder should i Place this ship so that it can work normally .. thanks in advance
[09:09] <eycel> heh iv searched
[09:09] <eycel> ...
[09:09] <leagris> babalu, better at /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state
[09:09] <eycel> wiresles netowrk disconnect every time
[09:09] <babalu> leagris: ok thanks
[09:10] <eycel> it could be a number of things, my networks wireless just isnt worth a shit, 9.10 ubunto, cause iv goton it working wiht ealier versions, or something else
[09:10] <psycho_oreos> eycel, and your interface is wlan0?
[09:11] <eycel> i think leme check
[09:11] <eycel> im pritty sure
[09:11] <eycel> it picks up
[09:11] <eycel> like neibors
[09:11] <prokops> hello
[09:11] <psycho_oreos> eycel, one of the potential issue is that your device is 802.11n capable, which the driver is a little immature under linux.. that's part of the issue, the other part is that ubuntu 9.10, due to the release is bound to a somewhat old kernel which limits if not inhibits the use of such device
[09:11] <eycel> signals and stuff
[09:12] <david_> hi
[09:12] <david_> i'm new there
[09:12] <eycel> im not using n though, g
[09:12] <eycel> ...
[09:12] <eycel> and its worked before
[09:12] <eycel> ...
[09:12] <eycel> so...
[09:12] <FloodBot2> eycel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:12] <david_> and dont much speak engles
[09:13] <abhi_nav> david_ which is your language?
[09:13] <psycho_oreos> eycel, its not that, the chipset is 802.11n capable which the code is different from 802.11g base.. its pretty much a completely different chipset/driver
[09:13] <leagris> david_, check if there are #ubuntu-language channel for your native language
[09:13] <psycho_oreos> eycel, I suppose if and when it disconnects I'd check dmesg for reasons why
[09:13] <eycel> well it wont connect atal
[09:14] <eycel> ...
[09:14] <eycel> but if it brings up singnals and everything, whats keeping it from connecting
[09:14] <meowbuntu> hi is there an easy way for me to boot multipul os from my usb drive.
[09:14] <psycho_oreos> eycel, hmm dmesg may show reasons why, it might be missing firmware
[09:14] <eycel> everything seems in order besides the conection
[09:14] <eycel> ...
[09:15] <abhi_nav> meowbuntu: partition usb in more than one partition and then each partition keep different os using unetbootin
[09:15] <psycho_oreos> eycel, pastebin your dmesg output
[09:15] <leagris> meowbuntu, may be installing grub on the usb disk. You should search the web about that as it may require some understanding of grub bootloader
[09:15] <eycel> okis
[09:16] <llutz> meowbuntu: there is, i'm using a stick with 5 diffrent live-os on it. just let me search a hwoto
[09:16] <eycel> it just brongs up some temperature stuff http://paste.ubuntu.com/399184/
[09:16] <SSShvb> Hello all does some one can help to install Maya 2010?
[09:17] <sharetel> Hi, is it possible to share a USB printer as a network printer via CUPS?
[09:17] <leagris> a shame there is no PXE boot with wireless. I would have enhoyed providing free live ubuntu over the air to my neighbours :)
[09:17] <psycho_oreos> eycel, doesn't seem like the complete output of dmesg or it seems like all the previous info has been overwritten by these temperature marks
[09:18] <meowbuntu> leagris, yea i know about grub not much about grub 2 though.
[09:19] <meowbuntu> abhi_nav, if i do that then windozzy cant read all the partitions thats not a good idea.
[09:19] <david_> i retire
[09:19] <david_> glad to meet we
[09:20] <llutz> meowbuntu: blog.p-mt.net/archives/644   german but important parts should be clear
[09:20] <abhi_nav> meowbuntu: take that windows thing and take one cup water and dispose in it :-(
[09:20] <meowbuntu> fanks llutz
[09:20] <meowbuntu> arg not german
[09:20] <eycel> goes requestiong lalalala then disconnect
[09:20] <eycel> lol
[09:20] <abhi_nav> mwowbuntu: you mean thans llutz?
[09:20] <abhi_nav> mwowbuntu: you mean thanx llutz?
[09:21] <eycel> i disconnected
[09:21] <meowbuntu> llutz, thats not a website is it
[09:21] <abhi_nav> eycel: no you are here
[09:21] <eycel> whats supose to me in the dmesg
[09:21] <eycel> ?
[09:21] <Duke_> Hey guys anyone know where I can find a driver for my Wireless PCI adaptor? NetGear WG311 - I have a Windows CD with drivers if that helps.
[09:22] <llutz> meowbuntu: http://blog.p-mt.net/archives/644
[09:22] <psycho_oreos> Duke_, is the device plugged in?
[09:22] <meowbuntu> ah thanks
[09:22] <psycho_oreos> eycel, hmm can you pastebin your lsmod output?
[09:22] <meowbuntu> 6 llutz
[09:22] <eycel> k
[09:23] <eycel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/399185/
[09:23]  * Pillowtester is away: busy sleeping
[09:23] <Duke_> psycho_oreos, yes, it is one of those ones that goes inside my computer case. Plugged directly into one of the PCI slots on my motherboard.
[09:24] <meowbuntu> llutz, one thing can i use other os not mentioned on the site
[09:24] <eycel> i dont get it belkin is very universal its in every store imaginable,
[09:24] <aprilhare> actionparsnip: there is a partition /dev/sda3 mentioned by sudo blkid but not by fstab. add it to fstab?
[09:24] <psycho_oreos> Duke_, I know how it gets connected/plugged in.. I'm saying is the device actually inside or not.. so if it is pastebin your lspci -nnk output
[09:24] <llutz> meowbuntu: you can, just look how they use grub to start the iso
[09:25] <aprilhare> erm
[09:25] <llutz> meowbuntu: may not work with all, but it's worth to try
[09:26] <meowbuntu> llutz, ok so basically after i have the download i just copy it to my flash drive right
[09:26] <psycho_oreos> eycel, the problem is that its not the product name that's the issue, its the vendor in which this case yours is Ralink RT2870 or Ralink being a little picky because linux, unlike windows mainly requires 3rd party devs to create drivers for it or otherwise you have to use vendor driver which can be rare depending on which vendor its actually from
[09:26] <meowbuntu> and edit it as written in the script
[09:26] <meowbuntu> ^ llutz
[09:26] <llutz> meowbuntu: read the site, look at the shown grub.cfg. it has to be edited to your needs
[09:26] <Duke_> sorry psycho_oreos. Just trying to explain that it's not one of those laptop ones. http://paste.ubuntu.com/399187/
[09:27] <meowbuntu> llutz, i cant understand german
[09:27] <llutz> meowbuntu: i haven't used his script, just used the grub55.cfg as example
[09:27] <meowbuntu> o i c
[09:27] <psycho_oreos> Duke_, those are more like pcmcia/cardbus
[09:27] <eycel> but if thats the case why is it even idetifiying itself
[09:27] <eycel> wouldnt it just not work atal
[09:27] <psycho_oreos> Duke_, I meant "lspci -nnk" (without quotes)
[09:28] <meowbuntu> i remember from grub how to edit that but grub 2 is totally different
[09:28] <david_> who can desinstal a program on ubuntu?
[09:28] <psycho_oreos> eycel, its identified itself is partially because there is an entry in the pci:id database and the other is that there is a driver in which recognises the pci:id and hence was loaded.. but those are part of the complete picture
[09:28] <meowbuntu> llutz, do i just copy the file to my usb. ?????
[09:29] <psycho_oreos> david_, depends on how its installed
[09:29] <llutz> meowbuntu: the green lines at start prepare your usb-stick with grub2
[09:29] <llutz> meowbuntu: that part is important
[09:29] <eycel> its usb not pci
[09:29] <Duke_> psycho_oreos There we go, http://paste.ubuntu.com/399190/
[09:29] <eycel> but i understand
[09:30] <llutz> meowbuntu: further down, just before the grub-screens being shown, there is a link to "grub055.cfg", download it
[09:30] <meowbuntu> llutz, i dont know if its that foward s i confused by german
[09:30] <david_> psycho and where the find?
[09:30] <eycel> so can i like download something
[09:30] <eycel> ...
[09:30] <psycho_oreos> eycel, yes there'd be a database for all that.. hence that's why you get Belkin Components from that lsusb output as opposed to the bare 050d:815c
[09:30] <meowbuntu> already did its actually near the top of page in english
[09:31] <meowbuntu> ^ llutz
[09:31] <psycho_oreos> eycel, hmm right now the best idea is to try and reload the driver, because your dmesg is all overwritten with temperature stuff which is kinda useless
[09:31] <eycel> ok il brb
[09:32] <psycho_oreos> Duke_, eww marvell wireless.. umm you'll need your driver disc for starters and ndiswrapper
[09:32] <llutz> meowbuntu: try the srcipt, maybe it works
[09:32] <meowbuntu> llutz, is that not grub 1.9.7. if i install as he says it will put frub 2 on my flshdrive now
[09:32] <david_> psycho_oreos i install from terminal
[09:32] <llutz> meowbuntu: grub2 == grub-1.9x
[09:33] <meowbuntu> different grub version. grub 2 is different than grub 1
[09:33] <meowbuntu> o i c
[09:33] <psycho_oreos> david_, would help if you could tell me what command you used
[09:33] <llutz> grub1 == grub0.9.x
[09:34] <david_> psycho_oreos : sudo aptitude install
[09:34] <meowbuntu> llutz, y do i need to download grub 2 again ubuntu already has it installed.
[09:34] <llutz> meowbuntu: nope
[09:34] <psycho_oreos> david_, then I'd use sudo aptitude remove
[09:35] <david_> woow thank you so much
[09:35] <meowbuntu> llutz, then how do i st up grub 2 on usb
[09:35] <meowbuntu> if i follow his instructions it will install grub on my os again
[09:35] <psycho_oreos> david_, np
[09:35] <llutz> meowbuntu: then you have to alter his script or do it manually
[09:36] <meowbuntu> llutz how do i get it on my usb
[09:36] <meowbuntu> download it right
[09:36] <llutz> meowbuntu: whats your usb-device?
[09:37] <david_> psycho_oreos: What is np?
[09:37] <meowbuntu> 20gug usb hdd
[09:37] <psycho_oreos> david_, no problems
[09:37] <llutz> meowbuntu: /dev/sdXY <-
[09:38] <meowbuntu> llutz, http://www.newsmy.com/en/products_show.asp?ArticleID=395
[09:38] <llutz> meowbuntu: /dev/sdXY <-?   device not brand/type
[09:38] <david_> woow
[09:38] <meowbuntu> ^^ <meowbuntu> 20gug usb hdd
[09:39] <llutz> meowbuntu: what /dev/sdXY your usb-device?      /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc
[09:39] <meowbuntu> ^ llutz
[09:39] <llutz> or whatever
[09:39] <meowbuntu> ah sorry missed that
[09:39] <meowbuntu> hold on
[09:39] <meowbuntu> arg whats the terminal command
[09:39] <miraculix> meowbuntu: try "fdisk -l" to list
[09:39] <llutz> sudo fdisk -l
[09:40] <llutz> meowbuntu: this howto uses an usb-thumb, so it asumes only 1 vfat-partition on the device
[09:41] <meowbuntu> llutz, fdisk -l blank
[09:41] <llutz> meowbuntu: sudo fdisk -l
[09:42] <xsacha> j #andromnia
[09:42] <meowbuntu> llutz, i will only use 1 partition on my 20gig
[09:43] <meowbuntu> llutz, /dev/sdb1
[09:43] <meowbuntu> llutz, hold on need to format
[09:43] <llutz> meowbuntu: so it has to be vfat
[09:44] <bullgard>  /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.31/drivers/platform/x86/thinkpad_acpi.c is headlined: "thinkpad_acpi.c - ThinkPad ACPI Extras". What does 'Extras' mean here?
[09:44] <seb_> léa?
[09:44] <llutz> meowbuntu: sudo mkfs.vfat -n MultiUSB /dev/sdb1
[09:44] <llutz> meowbuntu: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[09:45] <meowbuntu> llutz, slow down i am gparted format hdd
[09:46] <maveas> Are you guys aware of a stable proxy in UK?
[09:46] <meowbuntu> llutz, is vfat fat 32 or fat 16
[09:47] <root> hi
[09:47] <llutz> meowbuntu: fat32  ; after mounting:     sudo grub-install --no-floppy --root-directory=/mnt  /dev/sdb
[09:47] <Guest30984> hi
[09:47] <meowbuntu> that installs grub from where
[09:47] <meowbuntu> ^ llutz
[09:48] <llutz> meowbuntu: installs grub2 on the usb-device
[09:48] <meowbuntu> llutz, can i pm you
[09:49] <eycel> its the same thing
[09:49] <eycel> ...
[09:49] <ori> how do i toggle my screensaver?
[09:49] <xiong> ori, Toggle how?
[09:50] <ori> xiong: someone once told me of a keyboard shortcut that disables the screen saver
[09:50] <xiong> ori, Can you find 'Screensaver Preferences'?
[09:50] <xiong> Ah. Hotkey I don't know, sorry.
[09:50] <ori> xiong: yeah, but i want to disable it often, so a shortcut would save time
[09:50] <xiong> I notice that hotcorner support has been dropped, BTW. Anybody know why?
[09:51] <eycel> pew pew
[09:53] <meowbuntu> hi i am trying to install grub to my 20gig usb hdd. i get this error. grub-setup: warn: Your embedding area is unusually small.  core.img won't fit in it.
[09:53] <meowbuntu> what can i do
[09:54] <xiong> meowbuntu, That is not much space for any sort of full install but it seems pretty large for a thumb drive.
[09:54] <xiong> Not huge but big enough.
[09:54] <meowbuntu> xiong, ist not vor a full install
[09:55] <Duke_> psycho_oreos - I have the Windows driver disc and ndiswrapper.
[09:55] <meowbuntu> its for a multiboot iso i need to copy grub to my usb hdd
[09:55] <meowbuntu> ^ xiong,
[09:55] <melvster> hi all i have two ubuntu boxes, one running on my desktop one in the cloud in EC2, i can easily talk from my desktop to my server (e.g. with SSH), but im unsure the best way to send a command from my server to my desktop, is it possible?
[09:56] <meowbuntu> xiong, i'm folling this http://blog.p-mt.net/archives/644
[09:57] <psycho_oreos> eycel, lol I meant you need to pastebin me your dmesg output before it gets all overwritten with temperature stuff, which version are you using?
[09:57] <psycho_oreos> Duke_, just to be sure, you said you're using wg311 but you have one of those laptop cards.. so effectively its actually wg511v2?
[09:58] <xiong> Sorry, meowbuntu, I don't read that language. But I smell an issue here if you are trying to install all those OSs on one stick.
[09:58] <Duke_> psycho_oreos - it's not a laptop card, I have a desktop. It says WG311 on the box that the card came in.
[09:58] <psycho_oreos> Duke_, ahh
[10:00] <meowbuntu> xim_, y is that
[10:00] <meowbuntu> ^ xiong
[10:00] <psycho_oreos> Duke_, with driver disc available I'd follow step 3 of the guide (you just simply need to navigate into the same path for the inf file from your driver disc): http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/marvell-88w8335-chipset-netgear-wg311-pcicard-driver/
[10:01] <meowbuntu> xiong, there in no problems in doing it heaps of people do it
[10:01]  * psycho_oreos thinks its not related to ubuntu for that matter
[10:01] <xiong> Yikes! FF crashed.
[10:01]  * xiong gets busy awhile
[10:01] <meowbuntu> xiong, also i dont read german either
[10:02] <Doroff> helli
[10:02] <Doroff> hello
[10:02] <Doroff> anybody here?
[10:02] <psycho_oreos> !hi | Doroff
[10:02] <Doroff> psycho_oreos Hi!
[10:03] <psycho_oreos> meowbuntu, its offtopic but I'll give you a hint: grub4dos
[10:03] <psycho_oreos> I've done it before
[10:03] <Doroff> psycho_oreos man, do you know that does the ubuntu work at Atom processors?
[10:03] <psycho_oreos> Doroff, well ubuntu normally does, but if you're looking for lean versions I'd suggest ubuntu netbook remix
[10:04] <Duke_> psycho_oreos is my CD drive going to be /media/cdrom/ or /media/cdrom0/? they both look the same
[10:05] <Arabus> Duke_: normally one of them is a symbolic link to the other anyway
[10:05] <Doroff> I have motherboard motherboard 45cs
[10:05] <matt_mac> not sure if it's appropriate to ask development questions here
[10:05] <matt_mac> I'm writing a Ubuntu app and I need to spawn a new process
[10:05] <psycho_oreos> Duke_, it'll be either one that will suffice, I think /media/cdrom/ is just a symbolic link to /media/cdrom0
[10:05] <matt_mac> I'm using system() but it doesn't seem to take my command-line args
[10:05] <Doroff> and Atom processor on it.
[10:05] <matt_mac> wondering if I should be using some other API
[10:06] <psycho_oreos> Doroff, like I said, if you want a lean ubuntu version I'd suggest ubuntu netbook remix
[10:06] <ror> network manager has started asking for authentication (password) on boot, it never used to. What's changed and can I fix this? to.
[10:06] <Doroff> psycho_oreos I need ubuntu for i-net cafe )
[10:07] <Arabus> Duke_: You can find out if you type "ls -l /media/" in the command line. normally it should show something like this: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Feb 24  2009 cdrom -> cdrom0
[10:07] <psycho_oreos> Doroff, ahh that I wouldn't know
[10:08] <miraculix> ror: did you change any autostart settings?
[10:09] <matt_mac> ah nm... I guess I need to quote the whole command string
[10:09] <ror> no, it always auto-started before, it just never needed my password for keyring access before
[10:09] <Doroff> psycho_oreos )) i have a program for it, some good people make zedcafe (linux with that program - http://linux.blogs.ie/downloads/). But this Linux don't install for my PC. : ((  I won't to try netbook fersion. When I can download them?
[10:10] <zorge> Time to try find information about tweaking for SSD's (if still necessary, unless somehow 9.10 detects and adapts accordingly)
[10:11] <Duke_> psycho_oreos I only had one .inf file in the entire CD, and it was autorun.inf. So I tried that, and it didn't work - http://paste.ubuntu.com/399206/. Should I use the instructions on the website to download the driver off the internet?
[10:11] <miraculix> ror: check your startup-applications and see if gnome-keyring-daemon is still there.
[10:11] <devdz> how i access to the boot loader of windows?
[10:11] <ror> miraculix, it's there
[10:11] <psycho_oreos> Doroff, this seems like a bootable disc with its own OS on its own, its not really part of ubuntu and shouldn't be asked in here for support
[10:12] <psycho_oreos> Duke_, hmm I'd give that a try, but don't hold my breath on it, someone had issues with the drivers after following that guide
[10:12] <zorge> accessing boot loader depends on the motherboard doesn't it?
[10:12] <zorge> or am I thinking about the wrong thing
[10:13] <kaolbrec> Doroff, zencafe is slackware based. You might have better luck in ##slackware
[10:13] <psycho_oreos> boot loader is usually stored in the mbr and usually on the hard disk or SSD in your case
[10:14] <Doroff> kaolbrec thanks
[10:14] <zorge> perhaps I read the question wrong, and was thinking of just getting the actual menu to show up
[10:14] <miraculix> ror: sounds indeed strange. I'll look into it, I had a similar problem a while back.
[10:14] <psycho_oreos> zorge, which version of ubuntu?
[10:14] <zorge> I am currently running 9.10 since its not beta
[10:15] <ror> should I just add nm-applet to my sudo list?
[10:15] <zorge> Haven't found any solid info on SSD tweaks yet
[10:15] <psycho_oreos> zorge, hmm I wouldn't know how to access the grub 2.0 menu.. on grub 1 it is Esc button that would trigger boot menu but you can check !grub2
[10:16] <miraculix> ror: I wouldn't recommend that for security reasons, since it should work normally in userspace with the keyring
[10:17] <ror> miraculix: ok; I'll try at some time restarting nm-applet to see if it asks every time or perhaps it's launching before the keyring the first time?
[10:18] <miraculix> ror: do you have a different password for your keyring than your user account?
[10:23] <igoryonya> Here is what I've rufly found from linux directory structure description: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/399212/
[10:23] <igoryonya> Linux <-> DOS/Windows directory "equivalents"
[10:26] <ror> miraculix, no, same password
[10:27] <Sensiva> igoryonya /dev isn't correct, /dev doesn't contain any drivers its something like Device Manager in Windows, drivers in Linux are in the kernel boot files
[10:28] <igoryonya> Sensiva: so, drivers are in /boot?
[10:28] <Sensiva> igoryonya its embbeded in vmlinuz and initrd.gz which are located in /boot
[10:29] <fnord> heya
[10:29] <fnord> i have a strange bug with my ubuntu 9.10 ... it does not accept router advertisements but a link local ipv6 address is assigned to the interface
[10:30] <autopsy> Do you guys know which python library will be able to be used to create kickstart files? I need to write something in Python to do this.
[10:30] <sudo-su> help
[10:31] <sudo-su> nautilus give me this:
[10:31] <sudo-su> (nautilus:4182): Eel-CRITICAL **: eel_preferences_get_boolean: assertion `preferences_is_initialized ()' failed
[10:31] <autopsy> sudo-su create a new user and try with that, if it works you have some home directory issues.
[10:32] <sudo-su> autopsy: ok, thank
[10:33] <dyek> Hi! I want to run a gdm/X desktop session on an Ubuntu machine and have it always displayed to a X server (say VT-9) running on another machine (both machines on a secure/virtual network.) What is the best configuration for this to work?
[10:33] <Mowee> Hi :o
[10:34] <Doroff> so more nuances...
[10:34] <Doroff> aghrrrr
[10:34] <martron> hi
[10:35] <Doroff> ))
[10:35] <sudo-su> hi everibody
[10:35] <Doroff> hi
[10:35] <sudo-su> have problem with my session
[10:35] <sudo-su> only have got a terminal
[10:35] <martron> wondering why no proprietary drivers show up to use in hardware drivers
[10:36] <sudo-su> help
[10:36] <Rossonero> sudo-su, startx ?
[10:36] <sudo-su> mm
[10:37] <sudo-su> i cant start sesion from gms (gms?)
[10:37] <sudo-su> gsm
[10:37] <sudo-su> i dont now exactly
[10:37] <Rossonero> you mean gdm ?
[10:37] <sudo-su> yeah
[10:37] <sudo-su> this
[10:37] <Rossonero> what is the error message after typing : "gdm"
[10:38] <sudo-su> nothin
[10:38] <zorge> brb checking motherboard options
[10:38] <sudo-su> nothing only have a terminal
[10:38] <ct529> hi there!
[10:38] <Rossonero> sudo-su, have you log in the terminal ?
[10:38] <sudo-su> but this terminal is whith a wallpaper
[10:38] <sudo-su> only this
[10:39] <martron> wtf i didn't wuit
[10:39] <sudo-su> Rossonero: yes
[10:39] <sudo-su> pablo : $
[10:39] <ct529> I would like to link a process to a specific core of my cpu, so that I can then set the frequency of that core to the maximum. That would allwo me to keep the other processes on the other core, and keep the other core at low frequency. Any clue about how to do it?
[10:39] <sudo-su> martron: sorry, i mean "with"
[10:39] <Rossonero> sudo-su, are you using ubuntu server ?
[10:40]  * Jaimie waves
[10:40] <sudo-su> Rossonero: no..ubuntu desktop
[10:40] <sudo-su> but first i cant run nautilus
[10:40] <sudo-su> after cant start session
[10:46] <tarzeau> any lemmings fans in here?
[10:47] <lorenzosu> tarzeau, are you talking about the game?
[10:47] <tarzeau> lorenzosu: yes, there's a clone: http://lplusplus.co.cc/about.php which is pretty cool (8 player network version)
[10:48] <Rossonero> I am using ubuntu hardy.. my msn account doesnt work what's happen with this protocol ?
[10:48] <veleno> hello. i generate my private RSA key with "openssl genrsa -out private_key.pem 1024". The output is not in hexadecimal format..is there an easy way to do so ?
[10:48] <lorenzosu> tarzeau, cool
[10:48] <Rossonero> did Microshit stopped the support of this protocol from other OS ?
[10:51] <dyek> Hi! I want to run a gdm/X desktop session on a "remote" machine and have it always displayed to a X server (say VT-9) running on a "local" machine (both machines on a secure/virtual network.) What is the best configuration for this to work? How do I use gdmsetup on the remote and local machines to set this up? Can I do it without involving chooser?
[10:53] <wajs> hi! anyone know how to disable password after computer has been suspended in karmic?  I removed everything in  gconf-editor -> apps -> gnome-power-manager -> lock , but it still does ask for password after suspend
[10:53] <setuid> I've installed Ubuntu from the "alternate" CD, and it looks like it didn't install anything at all. It booted to a commandline login, and dpkg -l shows 351 packages installed. How do I go about installing everything? (development tools, printing tools, desktop, etc.)
[10:53] <setuid> wajs, configure gdm to stop prompting for the password
[10:54] <ct529> dyek: can you use an ssh tunnel with xserver active? something like ssh -CY (so you also have compression)?
[10:55] <Arabus> setuid: You might want to try one of the desktop suites like gnome, kde or xfce
[10:56] <setuid> Arabus, Right, but what package do I install to get everything? And what about the development tools/libraries/headers/etc.?
[10:56] <theadmin> setuid: try: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:57] <dyek> ct529: ssh tunnel would be fine, but I don't need ssh tunnel, because the network is a virtual bridge. I am trying to figure out the rest of the logistic.
[10:57] <setuid> theadmin, Ok, that adds 942 additional packages... I wonder why the alternate CD didn't actually install any of this
[10:58] <ct529> dyek: so you want to have the desktop automatically set to the remote machine when you login?
[10:58] <Lord-Readman> Before I ask, this is not termed deframent my ubuntu... but rather data consolidation... Is there atool that lets you pick which directorys sit at the beginning of the disk? i.e. if I want /boot/ at the beginning (the fast sectors) is there atool? or should I just use parted to make 0-100MB /boot/ and have it as partition1 ?
[10:59] <theadmin> Lord-Readman: Yes, it's a good idea to get /boot to a separate partition for such purposes
[11:00] <Lord-Readman> but is there a tool for if I want /home/downloads/ on a faster part of the disk than say /home/documents/
[11:00] <ddavids> hello all, pls i cant view videos frm youtube anymore frm my mozilla build of firefox, any clues pls?
[11:00] <setuid> Lord-Readman, That's what I do
[11:00] <setuid> Lord-Readman, Though, I put swap at the front
[11:00] <dyek> ct529: Yes (I think.) Basically, instead of using VNC, etc. I want the remote client machine to display to a real X server at a VT.
[11:00] <erUSUL> Lord-Readman: use readahead profiling http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254263 http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Readahead
[11:00] <Lord-Readman> I was going to put swap at the front but having 5GB in use at the beginning seamed a waste
[11:01]  * albondie is away: I'm busy
[11:01] <ct529> Lord-Readman: sounds a good idea to have tha swap on the central cilinders if you do a lot of swapping. If you do not, then it is a bit of a waste. Depends on your use.
[11:01] <ct529> Lord-Readman: and on disk performance as well ....
[11:02] <setuid> Lord-Readman, The files/data space you use the most, should be at the center of the spindle... swap is probably best. /boot is only ever used once, at machine startup... dont' put boot there.
[11:02] <Lord-Readman> So an easy approach would be to have /boot/ at the begining then my main ext4 then swap ?
[11:02] <llutz> if one does a lot of swapping, he should consider buying more RAM not to move swap-partition
[11:02] <Lord-Readman> my swap is never used
[11:02] <dyek> ct529: Maybe something like: "/usr/X11R6/bin/X :1  -nolisten tcp vt9" will work as the local machine configuration, but I suppose that should be managed by gdm?
[11:02] <setuid> Lord-Readman, If you're looking for disk performance, look into hdparm/sdparm, and disable journaling (or use XFS, it screams!)
[11:02] <lightpriest_> Anyone found why update-grub segfaults when boot is on an LVM partition?
[11:02] <setuid> Lord-Readman, Linux _runs_ from swap
[11:02] <Lord-Readman> boot time is too fast to bother hybernating
[11:03] <llutz> setuid: b....it
[11:03] <theadmin> setuid: lolwut? I have no swap
[11:03] <setuid> Lord-Readman, Because closing/re-opening apps sucks
[11:03] <setuid> theadmin, That's stupid... I can easily bring a machine down when it's configured wihtout swap. I've completely hung a machine with 8gb ram, 4 core, because it had no swap.
[11:03] <setuid> just do a 'make -j' for gcc, and watch it die
[11:04] <theadmin> setuid: "-j"?
[11:04] <setuid> You NEED swap, at least 1 page, to allow the machine to page ram and age it to disk
[11:04] <setuid> Without it, you can easily cause a machine to crash/lock, 100% reproducible.
[11:04] <theadmin> setuid: :(){ :|: &};: ?
[11:04] <llutz> theadmin: stop that!
[11:04] <theadmin> llutz: Sorry
[11:05] <red> isn't -j2 the amount of processes to use for compiling?
[11:05] <red> good to set to your processor core amount?
[11:05] <theadmin> llutz: Only meant to say that any machine can be frozen... with a simple forkbomb
[11:05] <setuid> jobs, not processes
[11:05] <red> yeah, sorry
[11:05] <setuid> theadmin, I'm not talking about fork bombs, I'm talking about consuming all the resources, causing the machine to stop. With swap, this doesn't happen.
[11:05] <meowbuntu> llutz, do you hve a puppylinux grub loader for the usb boot we talking about before
[11:06] <red> tho I've noticed when compiling programs like xbmc with kazillion files, using a lot of jobs makes it faster since compiling isn't processorheavy
[11:06] <llutz> meowbuntu: needs  some extra things, i have it at home. i can show you later this afternoon if you like
[11:06] <wortheld> via_rhine module has an already filed but quite old resume bug. I just don't know if I should add to the old and incomplete report, contact module maintainer or what else to do in order to have it fixed.
[11:06] <theadmin> setuid: I never used out all my resources, everything works. And i'm not gonna repartition now because you tell me... stuff
[11:07] <Peanut> Hi - I've got a 9.10 machine that does DHCP, and NFS mounts /home. This works - but now that I changed the machine to a fixed IP, it doesn't complete booting, complaining that it cannot mount /home. The IP address hasn't changed. Sometimes the boot still does complete, which is even stranger.. any suggestions?
[11:07] <Peanut> And now it dropped me into the maintenance shell
[11:07] <red> nfs is lovely
[11:07] <theadmin> Peanut: fsck that /home part
[11:07] <llutz> theadmin: if you really need swap, just create a swap-file. no need to waste a partition-entry if you donot use hibernation
[11:07] <red> dont mount it on boot via fstab
[11:07] <setuid> theadmin, Your nick doesn't bely your understanding of Linux or these technologies. Use whatever works, just realize it's a dead end, and you're wrong.
[11:07] <setuid> Look it up.
[11:07] <Peanut> theadmin: /home is on NFS, can't fsck that.
[11:08] <Peanut> red: how can I then get it automatically mounted if it isn't in fstab?
[11:08] <theadmin> setuid: I don't say i'm right. I know i need swap. Just i have a ridiculously small hard drive and have to keep Windows AND Linux on it
[11:08] <red> there was an app for that
[11:08] <red> argh, whats the name
[11:08] <ddavids> pls i cant view videos frm youtube anymore frm my mozilla build of firefox, any clues pls?
[11:08] <red> been ages since i last used nfs, reverted to samba for less problems
[11:08] <setuid> theadmin, Sparing 512M for swap wouldn't kill you
[11:08] <setuid> theadmin, But it can certainly save you  if you run out of resources
[11:09] <setuid> Even 256M or 128M would help considerably vs. 0 swap
[11:09] <perdita> #!haecksen
[11:09] <Peanut> red: there's not a windows machine anywhere near, would be a bit strange to start using Samba.
[11:09] <theadmin> setuid: Well, allright, i'll look into it after getting back to my Linux machine
[11:09] <miraculix> ddavids: you can try to reinstall the flashplugin.
[11:09] <wrinkliez> hey guys. is there a way i can get aptitude or apt-get to give a colored output?
[11:09] <red> Peanut: I don't have any windows machines myself either, tho a friend sometimes uses a Win 7 laptop at my place BUT.. if and when samba is in fstab, failing to mount has a timeout, so it's easier to setup on multiplec machines.
[11:09] <ddavids> how pls?
[11:09] <red> Peanut: then I just run a sudo mount -a if it didn't mount on boot
[11:10] <theadmin> ddavids: sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-installer
[11:10] <red> it also won't cause system hangups
[11:10] <Sensiva> ddavids https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash?action=show&redirect=Flash#Ubuntu%209.04%20%28Jaunty%20Jackalope%29%20and%209.10%20%28Karmic%20Koala%29
[11:10] <Peanut> red: err, this is a cluster with 16 machines, 128 cores - "type mount by hand" will probably not do as a solution :-)
[11:10] <Sensiva> whoops
[11:10] <Sensiva> !flash
[11:11] <ddavids> thanks all
[11:11] <red> Peanut: aye, let me see if i can find the app i was talking about
[11:12] <gharz> guys, what application do i need to install if i want to access MS SQL Server for SQL administration? thanks!
[11:12] <kiaas> I have a large video I'd like to transfer in smaller pieces, any software that can automatically do that?
[11:13] <red> kiaas: zip it in parts
[11:13] <kiaas> red, I'd prefer to have the peices individually viewable
[11:13] <Peanut> kiaas: maybe you can use ffmpeg then to re-encode
[11:13] <gharz> guys, is there like a mysqladmin for MS SQL server?
[11:14] <Vroomfondle> gharz: Not that I know of.
[11:14] <red> kiaas: ah, then you have to just split it
[11:14] <ddavids> pls wht is the differenc btw auto lo: iface lo inet loopback and auto eth0: iface eth0 inet dhcp?
[11:14] <Vroomfondle> Accessing MSSQL directly from Linux is pretty painful
[11:15] <Vroomfondle> realistically your best option is to RDP to a Windows box (or use a VM) to run Management Studio
[11:15] <Peanut> ddavids: the lo interface is your loopback interface (127.0.0.1), the other entry specifies that your eth0 network interface will get its IP address via DHCP.
[11:16] <ddavids> im finding it difficult to connect to an internet modem today...but i have used same in the past on my karmic desktop system...
[11:16] <n8w> how do i enable menubar in dolphin?ive turned it off by mistake
[11:17] <Peanut> ddavids: could you give a more detailed problem description than "I find it difficult to connect today"? :-)
[11:17] <ddavids> Peanut: thanks, does that mean my modem wont connect cos it doesnt have similar values to the 127.0.0.1 interface?
[11:17] <Peanut> ddavids: no, this looks perfectly correct - that file is probably not the cause of your problems, especially if you didn't change anything in it.
[11:19] <ddavids> Peanut: but i cant seem to connect this modem cos its interface is 77.245.65.xxx
[11:19] <red> i seem to have lost my systray in panel
[11:19] <red> whats the app called?
[11:19] <red> i do havee the logout button and indicator applet with bluetooth volume etc visible
[11:19] <red> but not application icons like etherpad etc
[11:19] <red> dropbox*
[11:19] <Peanut> ddavids: is that the address of your network interface, or the address of your modem? Does your modem even have an address? Do you want to 'connect to the modem', or only connect through the modem to the internet?
[11:19] <ddavids> Peanut: i have been trying now but it just doenst connect...
[11:20] <dyek> Does X server query require chooser? "X -query <host-name>  :2"
[11:20] <ddavids> Peanut: tht is the IP address when it does connect, i use it for my internet...
[11:21] <netshinE> hey all, i want to report bug on the sound manager program
[11:21] <netshinE> how can i do that with ubuntu-bug ?
[11:21] <netshinE> whats it the name of the package?
[11:22] <ddavids> Peanut: i wld like to connect thru the modem to the internet...
[11:22] <bullgard>  /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.31/drivers/platform/x86/thinkpad_acpi.c is headlined: "thinkpad_acpi.c - ThinkPad ACPI Extras". What does 'Extras' mean here?
[11:22] <sine`> whats the linux version of the binary copy facilite on windows
[11:22] <sine`> cp /b *.mp3 > allthesongsinone.mp3
[11:23] <Peanut> ddavids: Ok, and does it currently not get an IP address anymore, where this used to work in the past?
[11:24] <veleno>  what is the encoding of the file output by openssl genrsa -out private_key.pem 1024 ? i've tried with a base64 decoder, but it doesn't seem to be the one
[11:24] <civpro> can someone help me get pastebinit working?
[11:24] <ddavids> Peanut: excatly
[11:24] <ddavids> it doesnt get IP anymore and thus says disconnected..
[11:25] <erUSUL> sine`: cat *.mp3 > allthesongsinone.mp3
[11:25] <sine`> ok thanks
[11:25] <Peanut> ddavids: does it work if you use another computer or OS? Is the problem limited to Ubuntu?
[11:26] <ddavids> Peanut: its the same probelm on windows too..
[11:26] <netshinE> whats the package name of sound preferences in ubuntu 9.10?
[11:26] <Peanut> ddavids: then it is not an Ubuntu problem, but a problem with your modem or ISP. Please talk to your ISP about this, it is very unlikely that we in #ubuntu can help you with this.
[11:26] <ddavids> Peanut: mosttimes, ubuntu is able to connect but wondows cant connect 98% of the time
[11:26] <civpro> anyone use pastebinit here?
[11:27] <civpro> been dealing with this for days
[11:27] <kanzie> m trying to member:grep multiple files in several subdirs using find ./ -name *.php | member:grep 'myword'
[11:27] <ddavids> Peanut: thanks
[11:27] <markus2> netshine : ithink the one you want is pavumeter
[11:27] <kanzie> hahaha, what I meant to say is Im trying to grep for a word in several php-files in several subdirs
[11:28] <erUSUL> kanzie: grep  -R word directory/
[11:28] <abhi_nav> hi
[11:29] <ct529> kanzie: even better grep -ir 'word' directory so you correct for lowercase/uppercase typos .... ;)
[11:29] <abhi_nav> hi
[11:29] <netshinE> markus2, friend tell me that gnome-media
[11:29] <erUSUL> kanzie: regarding the find sysntax... you just invented it; didn't you ;P ? ---> find ./ -name '*.php' -exec grep 'myword' {} \;
[11:29] <erUSUL> kanzie: regarding the find sysntax... you just invented it; didn't you ;P ? ---> find ./ -name '*.php' -exec grep 'myword' '{}' \;
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> usinf find and grep in the same command.. double points. :)
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> now add in xargs for a tripple
[11:30] <civpro> how do i install a deb file through ssh?
[11:30] <markus2> netshine: for what to you want to witdh it
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if using find that way will handle files with spaces in the names
[11:31] <erUSUL> civpro: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[11:31] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: it does
[11:31] <civpro> ty
[11:31] <kanzie> erUSUL: haha, that is good yes but id doesnt give the name of the files where I have matches
[11:31] <kanzie> :-)
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> I alwyas make sure to not put spaces in filenames :)
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. theres a grep option for that I thought
[11:32] <erUSUL> kanzie: aothers and i have told you to use grep -R directly
[11:32] <kanzie> wouldn't work
[11:33] <kanzie> trying again then... hmmm
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> it works here kanzie
[11:33] <Dr_Willis>  grep -R set /etc
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> for example
[11:33] <ARishi> Karmic used to connect to the internet out-of-the-box for me on my laptop but recently when I had reinstalled karmic and tried to connect it wouldn't. Same thing happened with lucid beta1. Is there some hardware problem? How do I confirm it?
[11:33] <kanzie> grep -R 'myword' .
[11:33] <kanzie> but how do I add only .php.files
[11:33] <kanzie> ./*.php does not do it
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> the grep lines show the files.. you could grep the output again to look for .php  :)  i guess
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> proberly a nicer way however
[11:35] <erUSUL> kanzie:  find ./ -name '*.php' -exec sh -c 'if grep -q myword "$1"; then echo "$1 matchs"; fi' _ '{}' \;
[11:35] <Trashi> hello guys. i have a problem to reinstall linux an my computer... because he cannot write filesystem on some parts of hd ... i did try ubuntu live cd and debian netinstall cd and allways the same error... i did removed the partitiontable with cfdisk ... is there somebody who can help me
[11:35] <kanzie> erUSUL: hahahaha
[11:36] <nibbler> Trashi: maybe your harddisk is broken?
[11:36] <kanzie> erUSUL: that is a little overkill
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> ive seen much more complex then that kanzie  :)
[11:36] <erUSUL> kanzie: i'm waiting for your solution ;P
[11:36] <civpro> would someone help me with pastebinit, getting an error, ill pastebin the error, how ironic
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> civpro:  pastebin web site changes stuff the other week. You can set pastebinit to use a differnt site.
[11:37] <jrib> kanzie: grep whatever **/*.php
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> im not sure if theres an updated pastebinit command in the repos yet or not.
[11:37] <Trashi> nibbler: yes i thought the same, but it was possible to create a new partition table and it was also possible to upgrade grub in former steps
[11:37] <abhi_nav> Trashi: to check hdd try this: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
[11:37] <civpro> drwilis where do i change it to?
[11:37] <civpro> http://pastebin.com/bNPunRk8
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> civpro:  pastebinit command has options, and  default config file i recall.
[11:38] <civpro> the one that comes with it wont even trigger
[11:38] <Trashi> nibbler: but is it possible that only a part auf hd is broken .. because some other partitions he can write without problems
[11:38] <civpro> yes im asking the location of it
[11:38] <civpro> :)
[11:38] <nibbler> Trashi: do a cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda   - with sda being the disk you want to test, see if you get I/O Errors (this erases the disk sda)
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> man pastebinit   or pastebinit --help
[11:38] <Trashi> nibbler: ill try it
[11:38] <nibbler> Trashi: that is possible, and would be a clear sign to immediately backup your data and get a new hd :)
[11:38] <civpro> did u see the errors im getting
[11:38] <civpro> ?
[11:38] <civpro> cause i dont think its that
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> summarize the error perhaps. Im  on 10.04 so cant really double check if it happens here or not.
[11:39] <civpro> cant u look at the pastebin
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> not at this time no.
[11:39] <civpro> can you?
[11:39] <civpro> cause its 17 lines
[11:40] <martron> I just installed 10.04 on second hard disk, how do i get to files on my other windows hard drive? <--- very noob
[11:40] <civpro> unless u want me to paste it in here
[11:40] <callum1> Hopefully an easy question. How can I change the ctrl+alt+F* shortcuts in karmic. I want to make tty just one fkey press and the revert back to normal one keypress. I couldnt find this in the keyboard shortcuts menu
[11:40] <abhi_nav> !10.04 | martron
[11:40] <martron> ok ty
[11:42] <abhi_nav> callum1 what is tty?
[11:42] <callum1> on ubuntu press ctrl+alt+F2 for example
[11:42] <callum1> it will open a terminal
[11:42] <abhi_nav> callum1 hmm . it opens. then?
[11:43] <callum1> and ctrl+alt+f7 returns you to normal
[11:43] <callum1> I want to change these shortcuts
[11:43] <abhi_nav> callum1 to change to normal I just type exit ;)
[11:44] <callum1> I want to leave processes running in this shell
[11:44] <callum1> so I need to change both shortcuts
[11:44] <abhi_nav> callum1 hmm .
[11:45] <Matisse> hi
[11:45] <Matisse> usb-stuff is always mounted as read-only. How do I change it or is it a hardware error?
[11:45] <Matisse> (working with root rights, then still no deletion is permitted)
[11:46] <abhi_nav> Matisse: you plug in usb in that account in which account you want to do delete etc operations
[11:46] <Matisse> cant delete as normal user either
[11:47] <Matisse> the sentence in brackets is only to show that its not a rights problem
[11:47] <abhi_nav> Matisse: if you want to do operation from account A, then plug-in your usb to computer when you are logged in, in account A, not account B
[11:47] <Matisse> i did
[11:47] <abhi_nav> Matisse: OhH hmmmm
[11:48] <abhi_nav> Matisse: add yourself to usb group
[11:48] <waltercool> someone knows why totem works TOO bad with theora videos? VLC works speedy
[11:48] <Matisse> abhi_nav, that group isnt existing
[11:50] <abhi_nav> Matisse: hmmm........amm? then dont know much about it
[11:50] <Pirate_Hunter> hi anyone care to suggest a filesystem that is good at handling many files  in one volume, it will get accessed often, small files are created, written and removed. Was looking into reiserfs... but is there an alternative?
[11:50] <Svedrin> I just updated to lucid and now keep getting this error message for munin-node and nfs-{common,kernel-server}: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[11:51] <Svedrin> I only find websites talking about chroots, but I'm in a VM...
[11:51] <bazhang> Svedrin, #ubuntu+1 please
[11:51] <Matisse> abhi_nav, thanks for trying to help anyway
[11:52] <abhi_nav> Matisse: yah Welcome :)
[11:52] <bullgard>  /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.31/drivers/platform/x86/thinkpad_acpi.c is headlined: "thinkpad_acpi.c - ThinkPad ACPI Extras". What does 'Extras' mean here?
[11:52] <civpro> someone please help me with pastebinit
[11:52] <civpro> i cant find anything on google
[11:52] <civpro> been looking for days
[11:52] <civpro> and cant seem to find any help on it anywhere
[11:53] <bullgard> civpro: When I tried it lately, I learned that it is not functional.
[11:53] <erUSUL> bullgard: things that are not common to all laptops. extra buttons chips funcionalities that are handled via ACPI methods
[11:53] <civpro> there has to be a manual way to install though
[11:54] <erUSUL> civpro: you have to use an alternate site. command | pastebinit -b pastebin.ca
[11:54] <civpro> ah ok
[11:54] <erUSUL> civpro: the default site does not currently works
[11:54] <civpro> and that will work?
[11:54] <erUSUL> civpro:  command | pastebinit -b paste.ubuntu.com
[11:54] <erUSUL> civpro: try
[11:55] <civpro> thanks
[11:55] <kiaas> how do I setup a ssh tunnel/proxy? ssh -D localhost:1025 user@server isn't working.
[11:56] <civpro> so if your wanting to pastebin a file what command would that be?
[11:56] <civpro> i thought it was pastebinit filename
[11:56] <nibbler> kiaas: -D would be dynamic, and needs to be followed by the local port, so use: ssy -D8080 remote.host.net
[11:56] <bullgard> erUSUL: thinkpad_acpi.c includes a function for fan control. Do you think that this is not common to all laptops?
[11:57] <nibbler> kiaas: but this would be socks5 proxy, if you want to have a static tunnel, use: ssh -L8080:host.example.com:80 yourhost.net  <-- the tunnel will be between your local host and yourhost.net and will be pointing to host.example.com:80
[11:57] <risumner> Firefox and Chrome stopped loading  Facebook yesterday. I am on 64b Jaunty.  All other web sites work.  Another system on the same lan works fine.  I switched accounts, same problem.  Rebooted , same, Cleard historyno change
[11:57] <civpro> ircop@sceneslayer:~/eggdrop/scripts$ pastebinit ircbonus.tcl -b pastebin.ca
[11:57] <civpro> http://pastebin.com
[11:58] <civpro> all it shows up
[11:59] <hal> how do packages get added to the ppa?
[11:59] <hal> I would like to install the latest openoffice 3.2, but it is not yet available for karmic  ie  http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ppa/ubuntu/dists/
[11:59] <jack__> Can anyone help me setup a local server on ubuntu 9.10?
[12:00] <civpro> jack type in tasksel
[12:01] <civpro> should make it easy on you
[12:01] <jack__> tasksel
[12:02] <civpro> ya
[12:02] <civpro> in your terminal
[12:02] <civpro> not here
[12:02] <jack__> ah i c lol
[12:02] <jack__> donk lol
[12:03] <erUSUL> bullgard: i did not named the file ;)
[12:03] <snow_> hi
[12:03] <snow_> I'm using gkrellm with thunderbird but don't know how gkrellm can notify me when thunderbirds get a new email !!!
[12:03] <jack__> if im trying to set up for a php website interacting with a mySQL database should i instal a lamp server right?
[12:03] <erUSUL> jack__: right
[12:04] <tester999> 1
[12:04] <jack__> "tasksel: debconf failed to run"
[12:04] <tester999> всем привет
[12:04] <igoryonya> does ubuntu already install seamonkey 2 from it's repository, or I have to download it from mozilla's site?
[12:04] <bazhang> tester999, /join #ubuntu-ru
[12:05] <igoryonya> tester999: привет :)
[12:05] <tester999> )
[12:05] <tester999> здрасте
[12:05] <jack__> erUSUL: I get "tasksel: debconf failed to run" in the terminal when i press enter to install a lamp server
[12:05] <kubi_ubi_bubi> hello! How can I start video-call under ubuntu linux? (I mean for msn)
[12:05] <tester999> hi
[12:06] <tester999> have gamers ?
[12:06] <igoryonya> kubi_ubi_bubi: maybe skype?
[12:06] <igoryonya> tester999, I am a gamer, but don't have much time for it nowdays. :)
[12:07] <igoryonya> kubi_ubi_bubi, sorry, I didn't see that you say msn in parentacies
[12:07] <kubi_ubi_bubi> i don't really like the skype program
[12:08] <liunx> why?
[12:08] <liunx> but skype is really good to use
[12:08] <igoryonya> not to start the flame war but I've always hated msn ;)
[12:09] <djay_> hello
[12:09] <tester999> igoryonya: давай по русски )
[12:09] <aj_> hi all.  when i close the lid to my laptop, the computer suspends, but when i open the lid, the screen is blank.  please helpl, i'm using jaunty jackalope (9.04)
[12:09] <jack__> aj_ go to your screensaver or power management settings
[12:09] <kubi_ubi_bubi> I think i can't join to my hotmail address with the skype
[12:09] <igoryonya> tester999: in russian, надо в #ubuntu-ru сидеть, а-то здесь ругаться начнут.
[12:09] <aj_> jack__ ok i'm there
[12:10] <erUSUL> jack__: sudo tasksel install lamp ?
[12:10] <HAMBURG> hello people, i have a quick question
[12:10] <aj_> jack__, it's set to suspend when the lid is closed.
[12:10] <HAMBURG> were can i get audio/x-private-ts-lpcm decoder
[12:10] <jack__> erUSUL: I have a lamp server already installed. I just want to set up my php files so i can run tests on the site im building locally (*thus avoiding ftp file updats constantly)
[12:10] <kubi_ubi_bubi> All my friends are using MSN
[12:11] <erUSUL> !lamp | jack__
[12:11] <djay_> hey you know how to install flash, I need your help I can not do
[12:11] <HAMBURG> were can i get audio/x-private-ts-lpcm decoder ???
[12:11] <jack__> aj_: change it to blank screen maybe
[12:11] <tester999> help with playing cs 1.6
[12:12] <aj_> jack__, but i want it to suspend, which it does...only opening the lid the screen is black.
[12:12] <erUSUL> HAMBURG: install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[12:12] <Flare183> What's the default buffer size for Audacious?
[12:12] <erUSUL> !appdb | tester999
[12:12] <risumner> If I am asking in the wrong chat, where should I go.  Facebook not loading.  I have ping facebook.com fine.
[12:12] <jack__> aj_: I'm not sure why tat is sorry. I have had the same problem before, I just changed it to blank screen rather than suspend
[12:12] <erUSUL> HAMBURG: no just install it from the software center
[12:12] <HAMBURG> ok from synaptic
[12:13] <HAMBURG> ill check it
[12:13] <tester999> here is what q@Q:~/CS1.6$ wine hl.exe -game cstrike
[12:13] <tester999> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[12:13] <tester999>   Major opcode of failed request:  136 (GLX)
[12:13] <tester999>   Minor opcode of failed request:  5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent)
[12:13] <tester999>   Serial number of failed request:  1338
[12:13] <tester999>   Current serial number in output stream:  1338
[12:13] <FloodBot2> tester999: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:13] <djay_> hey you know how to install flash, I need your help I can not do
[12:13] <aj_> if anyone has any ideas, when i close the lid to my laptop, the computer suspends, but when i open the lid, the screen is blank.  please help, i'm using jaunty jackalope (9.04)
[12:13] <jack__> ubottu: I have a lamp server already installed. I just want to set up my php files so i can run tests on the site im building locally (*thus avoiding ftp file updats constantly)
[12:13] <erUSUL> djay_: install ubuntu-restricted-extras from software center
[12:14] <HAMBURG> erusul ubuntu-restricted-extras  when i search it in synaptic
[12:14] <HAMBURG> nothing is comming up
[12:14] <tester999> help me  http://paste.ubuntu.com/399259/
[12:14] <bazhang> tester999, check the appdb, /join #winehq
[12:14] <OerHeks> HAMBURG, just search restricted, Kubuntu and Ubuntu should show up
[12:14] <erUSUL> HAMBURG: make sure you have multiverse enabled in System<Admon>software sources first tab
[12:14] <tester999>  bazhang:  ok
[12:14] <erUSUL> tester999: do you have 3d acceleration working?
[12:15] <jack__> Any help on setting up a php website on a local server. Already have LAMP installed on my machine, but no idea how to get the site set up on it.
[12:15] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org  <--- tester999
[12:15] <tester999> драйвер ati стоит но незнаю включен или нет
[12:15] <tester999> ati driver is enabled but don `t know whether or not
[12:15] <pyqt_2010_newbie> /var/www this is the directory for the site
[12:15] <vista> hello
[12:16] <vista> i need help
[12:16] <pyqt_2010_newbie> help with what? :?
[12:17] <HAMBURG> erusul its not comming up in package and i have multiverse enables im using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[12:17] <HAMBURG>                 - the Lucid Lynx
[12:17] <HAMBURG> will that make a difference
[12:17] <Pici> HAMBURG : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[12:18] <Pici> HAMBURG: Lucid support is only in #ubuntu+1
[12:18] <igoryonya> does ubuntu already install seamonkey 2 from it's repository, or I have to download it from mozilla's site?
[12:19] <erUSUL> igoryonya: maybe the mozilla ppa has it dunno
[12:19] <erUSUL> djay_: post the exact error message you get ina pastebin please
[12:19] <erUSUL> !paste | djay_
[12:20] <erUSUL> !pm | djay_
[12:20] <igoryonya> erUSUL: what's mozilla ppa?
[12:20] <erUSUL> !ppa | igoryonya
[12:21] <jack__> Can I just put php files somewhere in the /apache directory to run webpages locally?
[12:22] <red> jack__: you need to put the files where your apache is pointing to
[12:22] <red> iirc etc/apache/sites-enabled/ directory has a file which is poitning to your apache root directory
[12:22] <jack__> red: can you be more specific?
[12:22] <red> configure that or place the files where that configuration file is pointing to
[12:23] <jack__> red: Im really bad with backend stuff and file dirctories
[12:23] <red> ah
[12:23] <red> let me rephrase then
[12:23] <chaitan3> jack__, it's /var/www by default
[12:23] <red> chaitan3: ty, wasn't sure what it is in karmic :)
[12:23] <red> jack__: try placing your .php file into /var/www and then typing http://localhost into your browser
[12:23] <jack__> chaitan3:there doesnt seem to be such a file directory in /apache and i cant create new folder
[12:23] <jack__> 2 secs
[12:24] <red> the folder isn't under apache
[12:24] <jack__> red: is the dirctory just /var/www ?
[12:25] <red> yes
[12:25] <red> there should be a index.html in that folder :)
[12:25] <red> rename it to index.bak and put your php stuff there
[12:25] <djay_> file:///home/djay/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[12:25] <djay_>  help
[12:26] <red> djay_: the file is located on your PC, we can't see it :)
[12:26] <red> try uploading it to some image uploading website
[12:26] <jack__> red: yer found the html file, but I dot seem to have permission to move files into the directory
[12:26] <jack__> dont
[12:27] <red> jack__: open a terminal
[12:27] <red> then cd /var
[12:27] <jack__> red: thanks im in a temrinal
[12:27] <red> then sudo chown yourusername www/
[12:27] <red> then you should have correct rights to modify the folder and its contents
[12:27] <red> i have to go now, hope you get it working ->
[12:30] <igoryonya> so, does ubuntu already install seamonkey 2 from it's repository or 1.x yet?
[12:30] <jack__> red: thanks for help. What should i type into the browser to disp;lay the file?
[12:31] <djay_> www.Screenshot.png
[12:32] <Aciid> wait what?
[12:32] <jack__> anyone know the url to display files stored in my /var/www directory
[12:33] <djay_> how i get libpanga1.0-0
[12:33] <Aciid> jack__: http://localhost
[12:33] <forceblade> ciao a tutti
[12:34] <jack__> aciid: like this - "http://localhost/var/www/index.php"
[12:34] <djay_> how i get libpagno1.0-0
[12:34] <Aciid> jack__: fail do not set your root, as HTTPD_ROOT
[12:35] <djay_> how i get libpango1.0-0*
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> !find libpango
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> hmm he left befor the bot tole him the package name
[12:39] <CamFox> jack__: no like http://localhost/index.php
[12:41] <albech_> is there a way to tar files in a directory (e.g /home/user/backup) without getting /home/user/backup pathnames included in the files?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> albech_:  tar has a exclude option
[12:41] <albech_> Dr_Willis, I dont want to exclude files
[12:41] <albech_> Dr_Willis, i want to not include the whole path
[12:41] <meowbuntu> hi does the bootable partition of a usb drive have to be first
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> You want to exclude  the backup files  so you dont backup thebackups... :)
[12:41] <djay_> how i get libpngo1.0-0
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> what root path do you want to use
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> djay_:  its in the repos. Use the package manager search and install
[12:42] <CamFox> albech_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=307814
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> !find libpango | djay_
[12:42] <tobago> how to set the prompt on the remote server when doing in a shell script:  ssh tobago@$server 'cd /var/log; /bin/bash'
[12:43] <bullgard> erUSUL: Thank you.
[12:43] <erUSUL> bullgard: no problem
[12:43] <albech_> CamFox, exactly what i was looking for, thanks
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> tobago:  you set the PS1 variable as needed to set the 'prompt'
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> tobago:  thers dozens of guides  and howtos on bash-promots
[12:44] <tobago> Dr_Willis, like: 'cd /var/log; /bin/bash; echo $PS1' ?
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> albech_:  ages ago i moved some stuff to a tar archive.. and some how addede the archive itself.. it then deleted itself. :)
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> tobago:  go read up on the 'bash prompt howto'
[12:45] <albech_> Dr_Willis, haha i have done that too.. but that was a different issue
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> echo $PS1            shows the current setting for PS1
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> tobago:  but from what you are asking.. its not clear what you want.
[12:49] <risumner> Firefox and Chrome stopped loading  Facebook yesterday.   Any help?  If I am asking in the wrong chat, where should I go?
[12:49] <bretzel_> Hi there, I have a problem with mysql service not auto starting even in /etc/rc2.d/
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> bretzel_:   it might be using upstart now. see if it has a config in /etc/init  (or it may not) I dont know what services are getting moved to upstart.
[12:50] <happyface> are there any irssi themes that color nick names so rooms look more organized
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> happyface:  the irssi homepage has tons of themes/scripts for that
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> happyface:  weechat can also do that feature.
[12:51] <bretzel_> Dr_Willis: thanks for the hint, I will dig it and learn upstart... ( yet I am ruinning Kubuntu 9.10 which must be the same as Ubuntu... )
[12:51] <bretzel_> wow! typ[o: running!!!!
[12:52] <bretzel_> ruining Kubuntu hahaha I meant *running*
[12:52] <tobago> Dr_Willis, mmh. i read: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/   but setting the $PS1="\u@\h" won't show me the expected prompt.
[12:52] <erUSUL> bretzel_: i think there is a script to color them
[12:53] <bretzel_> I am not that used with irc, just bare using it
[12:54] <donavan01> anyone know if there is a program that will let me look at audio specturm of an mp3 I need something a little more advanced than a simple graphics equalizer
[12:55] <sipior> donavan01: i believe audacity will do that for you.
[12:56] <sipior> donavan01: or do you mean that you need a full fourier analysis tool?
[12:57] <tobago> it looks like the /bin/bash   removes the $PS1?
[12:57] <donavan01> sipior not sure ... I have some mp3s that want to see if someone has overlaid something onto them or if its just junk noise
[12:58] <happyface> Dr_Willis: I've tried themes but all just make the text all one color really
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> happyface:  its not a theme thing. its a script thing
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> tobago:  then change it to what you want. theres 10000's of things you can use in a prompt
[12:58] <tobago> Dr_Willis, i wanto to connect to remote server by a script using ssh and changing the directory for later use. that's why i tried: ssh tobago@$server 'cd /var/log; /bin/bash; $PS1="\u@\h \W> "'
[12:58] <sipior> donavan01: give audacity a try, see if it solves your problem
[12:58] <Demiurge> I'm trying to install a program that seems to require xdialog on Karmic. Karmic seems to think that xdialog is oold and boring, so could anyone please hint me on what to do? Is there a replacement? What's it called?
[12:59] <donavan01> sipior ok thanks
[12:59] <tobago> Dr_Willis, as you can see i set up the prompt, but the prompt is not visible.
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> tobago:   use export perhaps.
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> tobago:  and you dont set $PS1 you set PS1
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> tobago:  and ive no idea why you have that cd /var/log; /bin/bash in there...
[13:00] <sundar> i have an problem with my xorg
[13:01] <sundar> can anyone help me.
[13:01] <happyface> Dr_Willis: thanks
[13:01] <tobago> Dr_Willis, it'sin there to change the directory to /va/log and the /bin/bash is for staying on the server. otherwise the connection quits immediately.
[13:02] <tobago> /var/log
[13:03] <tobago> Dr_Willis, the sense behind the script is to a remote server, change the directory to /var/log and keeping the connection for work.
[13:03] <tobago> say checking log files
[13:04] <sundar> the resolution i have changed
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> tobago:  you are trying to too much at the same time I think.  when you run bash.. it will do its own init stuff. and you can set the prompt in the bashrc
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> tobago:  ssh has a execut command option i recall also.
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> tobago:  you may want to check out 'screen' with ssh - its very very handy
[13:08] <tobago> Dr_Willis, following the manual of ssh i should do as i did.
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> tobago:  no idea then.  you DO set  PS1  NOT '$PS1' variable.
[13:09] <tobago> Dr_Willis, i can't see an screen option of ssh
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> export PS1='--->'
[13:09] <tobago> Dr_Willis, yep. i removed the "$"
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> tobago:  screen is a tool you run over ssh. to get enhanced features
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> !screen
[13:10] <TecanLT> i copied the debs form an old install to the deb cache how do i install them ?
[13:12] <jatt> hi I'm using ubuntu and my computer gets assigned an IP address with dhcp. However most other computers in my office network have names like ws-01, ws-02, etc. How do I know which name corresponds to my IP address?
[13:13] <OerHeks> jatt ask the IT guy @ your office ?
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> TecanLT:  sudo dpkg -i whatever
[13:13] <Souljah> uname -n
[13:14] <albech_> !wins
[13:14] <jatt> OerHeks: he yes, maybe, but he is, err. not a nice person :). Is there a way to obtain this with a reverse lookup (i.e. IP -> name of my computer)?
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> jatt:  try the 'findsmb' and 'smbtree' commands perhaps?
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> if it has a sambashare :)
[13:16] <FourDollars> Chris___: I need the irc channel. ^^b
[13:17] <sundar> how can i adjust the screen in my desktop
[13:18] <abhi_nav> sundar: system=>preferences=>display
[13:19] <sundar> hi abhi
[13:19] <abhi_nav> hi sundar
[13:19] <sundar> look like i had tryed it..
[13:19] <abhi_nav> sundar: hmm
[13:19] <sundar> i hve install up
[13:19] <abhi_nav> sundar: what you actualy want to do?
[13:19] <sundar> ubuntu 9.4
[13:19] <abhi_nav> sundar what is up?
[13:19] <sundar> and upgraded to 9.10
[13:20] <sundar> while upgrading it
[13:20] <abhi_nav> hmm
[13:20] <abhi_nav> sundar: try to ask your question all in one line with details
[13:20] <sundar> my screen resolution has been changed into 800 *600
[13:21] <djay_> there is no libpango-perl
[13:21] <abhi_nav> sundar: what does  system=>preferences=>display  gives?
[13:21] <sundar> i cant find my original 1024 pix so i had reconfif xorg t0 1024 but
[13:21] <risumner> I can ping Facebook.com.  I can load facebook on another computer on the same lan, but I can't load facebook on my jaunty system, beginning yesterday.  Any help?
[13:22] <Pici> djay_: That package only seems to exist in >= karmic
[13:22] <sundar> some of the screens have been to be adjusted..
[13:22] <abhi_nav> risumner: try myspace? ;) :P
[13:22] <abhi_nav> sundar: what does  system=>preferences=>display  gives?
[13:22] <albech_> risumner, route -n
[13:22] <djay_> ubottu there is no libpango-perl
[13:22] <sundar> just a min
[13:23] <abhi_nav> sundar: hmm
[13:23]  * premiero saying hi everybody
[13:23] <sundar> it detect 1024x768(4:3)
[13:23] <sundar> at an refresh rate 60hz
[13:23] <risumner> What is rout -n
[13:24] <abhi_nav> sundar: hmm. then use it
[13:24] <risumner> i maent route -n ?
[13:24] <sundar> yup i m using it... but the display is not comes full screen
[13:25] <sundar> only 80%of my screen has been covered by it..
[13:25] <abhi_nav> sundar: can you imagebin your desktop?
[13:25] <sundar> how can i...
[13:25] <warriorforgod> I have a laptop runing 9.10, latest nvidia drivers and dual monitors.  When I try and use the touchpad on the laptop I cannot scroll over to the second screen.  Any suggestions?
[13:25] <sundar> by screen shot
[13:26] <abhi_nav> sundar: imagebin your desktop and system=>preferences=>display settings separately
[13:26] <abhi_nav> sundar: yah using screenshot
[13:26] <abhi_nav> warriorforgod: dont know how, but you have to enable touchpad scrolling somewhere
[13:27] <djay_> oke i got libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-0-dbg libpango1.0-common libpango1.0-dev libpango1.0-doc libpango-ruby libpango-ruby-1.8 which I still miss the libpango
[13:27] <starsk1> Hello everybody, need your help... How can i connect to usb device with terminal ?
[13:28] <starsk1> anybody ?
[13:28] <sundar> abhi nav
[13:28] <TecanLT> dongs
[13:28] <sundar> i got the screenshot..
[13:28] <sundar> how can i send it to u..
[13:28] <abhi_nav> !imagebin | sundar
[13:28] <TecanLT> is ubuntu for retards too ?
[13:29] <sundar> k
[13:29] <djay_> oke i got libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-0-dbg libpango1.0-common libpango1.0-dev libpango1.0-doc libpango-ruby libpango-ruby-1.8 which I still miss the libpango
[13:30] <mm_> wtf
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> djay_:  how are you coming to the conclusion? what are youy trying to do exactly?
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> starsk1:  clearify whatt you mean by 'connect'
[13:32] <FourDollars> #welcome
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> warriorforgod:  you can move to the 2nd monitor with a mouse but no9t the touch pad?
[13:32] <sundar> abhi
[13:33] <risumner> I can ping Facebook.com.  I can load facebook on another computer on the same lan, but I can't load facebook on my jaunty system, beginning yesterday.  Fails with both Firefox and Chrome.  All other web site work.  Any help?
[13:33] <sundar> imagebin.org/89900
[13:33] <sundar> i have my screen into it... check
[13:33] <abhi_nav> sundar:? full address?
[13:33] <sundar> http://imagebin.org/89900
[13:33] <warriorforgod> Dr_Willis: Yes
[13:34] <abhi_nav> sundar: copy paste the address from your address bar of browswer to here
[13:34] <ehazlett> anyone know the preseed directive to skip the migration-assistant during install?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> warriorforgod:  that is weird.  if you lift up you finger and drag from left to right does it stop at teh edge? or go on?
[13:34] <sundar> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[13:34] <warriorforgod> Dr_Willis: Stops at the edge.
[13:34] <abhi_nav> sundar: I cannt see any MM icon? what is MM icon?
[13:34] <sundar> did u get it..
[13:35] <genii> !info libpango-perl
[13:35] <sundar> what is that mm icon
[13:35] <abhi_nav> sundar: where?
[13:35] <ehazlett> hey genii, do you happen to know the preseed option to bypass the migration-assistant ?
[13:35] <sundar> i have changed up using gnome icon
[13:35] <abhi_nav> sundar: which version of ubuntu?
[13:36] <sundar> abhi i m using this 9.10
[13:36] <jessi> hola
[13:36] <abhi_nav> sundar: first check if that your hardware is supported or not, including motherboard, graphics card etc. because I just read this = http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9008152#post9008152
[13:36] <sundar> but i have changed up this icon package
[13:37] <sundar> oh
[13:37] <abhi_nav> sundar: read that link and see if yours is the same problem as that of him
[13:37] <sundar> thank u dude.
[13:38] <abhi_nav> sundar: ? so what happend?
[13:38] <sundar> i got that forum
[13:38] <abhi_nav> sundar: so your harware is not supported too? Please tell me, I am just planning to install new 9.10. What you suggest me?
[13:38] <sundar> hey
[13:39] <sundar> wait for an month
[13:39] <genii> ehazlett: What level of question do you have set by default for the preseed? Critical for instance won't prompt for it
[13:39] <sundar> hear come the 10.4
[13:39] <ehazlett> genii, i didn't set any...  i will try that...  thanks!
[13:39] <sundar> on the end of apr
[13:39] <sundar> ubuntu rodks
[13:39] <abhi_nav> sundar: but then 10.04 wll have its own new bugs? :-(
[13:40] <sundar> but try to install an fresh copy
[13:40] <sundar> not to upgrade..
[13:40] <jessi> hola
[13:40] <sundar> i had face an problem while ugrade
[13:40] <abhi_nav> sundar: Yah I am installing fresh copy 64 bit 9.10. Just check with liveusb and everything is great.!!!
[13:40] <bazhang> jessi, english here /join #ubuntu-es
[13:40] <sundar> it great man
[13:40] <abhi_nav> sundar: hmmm
[13:41] <jessi> go
[13:41] <abhi_nav> sundar: so what about your display problem?
[13:41] <sundar> i m using pin type p4 2.4 ghz(32bit)
[13:41] <sundar> one of my pin has been broken..
[13:42] <sundar> and windows os is not booting up
[13:42] <abhi_nav> sundar: ??? what is pin?
[13:42] <sundar> but this ubuntu works very well.
[13:42] <sundar> yup the processor pin..
[13:42] <jessi> GILI POYAS ABLEN EN ESPAÑOL
[13:43] <bazhang> jessi, /join #ubuntu-es
[13:43] <sundar> that was an older version of intel p4 processor..
[13:43] <abhi_nav> sundar: hmm. may be. i dont understood. but ok. try installing monitor settings aps. see if that aps help you!
[13:43] <sundar> k sorry for bothering u man..
[13:44] <ehazlett> genii, would that be d-i debconf/priority critical setting?
[13:44] <sundar> it was an great help..
[13:44] <jalons> I have a failed drive in a 9.04 server raid5 array, when I pass bootdegraded it's still not constructing, however I can assemble it from initramfs (busybox?)
[13:44] <jalons> how can I either A. get bootdegraded (i also tried bootdegraded=true and bootdegraded=1) to work so I can copy data off then try the rebuild, or B. get network going from the initramfs environment so I can copy the data off
[13:44] <abhi_nav> sundar: yah you are always welcome here. :)
[13:45] <sundar> any suggestion for me regarding learning terminal in ubuntu...
[13:45] <sundar> becoz i m new to it.,.
[13:45] <abhi_nav> sundar: feel free to ask your ubuntu os related questions here
[13:45] <abhi_nav> sundar: for starting learinng linux see this tldp.org they have lots of how to. you can follow them and lots of guides etc
[13:46] <sundar> oh..
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> lots and lots and lots of guides
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> Some can be a little out of date however.
[13:46] <abhi_nav> sundar: ubuntu help web site or community documenations is helpful too
[13:46] <abhi_nav> Dr_Willis: hmm
[13:47] <MrGoodkat> im on karmic and trying to use aften to convert a dts to ac3, i always get "Value too large for defined data type"
[13:47] <Losha> sundar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[13:47] <MrGoodkat> seems like it cant open files bigger than 2gb
[13:47] <MrGoodkat> is there anyway to define the max size for strings?
[13:47] <genii> ehazlett: Yes.Apologies on lag, at work.
[13:47] <ehazlett> genii, np :)  thx
[13:47] <compengi> i'm using wubi on vista, last time i made package upgrade grub got messed up and i cant boot anymore into ubuntu. now it throws me into grub terminal, what should i do
[13:48] <genii> ehazlett: You can probably also get good help on preseeding in the #ltsp channel
[13:48] <sundar> losha arihatho(thank you) j
[13:48] <ehazlett> genii, awesome, thx for the tip
[13:48] <LekeFly> is this overpower XFX GeForce 9500GT 550M 1GB PhysX CUDA < i just want to play 1080p in xbmc : )
[13:49] <jessi> hola
[13:50] <bazhang> !es | jessi
[13:50] <sipior> his all looks familiar, somehow.
[13:50] <jmcantrell> how do i get rid of that envelope notification icon?
[13:51] <jmcantrell> oops, i guess i should ask that in #ubuntu+1
[13:52] <jessi> hola
[13:53] <jessi> hola
[13:53] <jessi> hola
[13:53] <jessi> hola
[13:53] <FloodBot2> jessi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:53] <jessi> hola
[13:54] <jkd4_> is preventing ssh hacking really an issue if you aren't running an ssh server?
[13:55] <airstrike> hi. how can i prevent that 'enter password for default keyring to unlock' prompt from showing up when i login?
[13:55] <vegpuff> as soon as my system starts up, the gnome screen is totally blank
[13:55] <vegpuff> any help/pointers to debug would be helpful
[13:55] <bastid_raZor> jkd4_: didn't you answer that question yourself?
[13:56] <jkd4_> is preventing ssh hacking really an issue if you aren't running an ssh server?
[13:56] <vegpuff> restarting gdm didn't work too
[13:56] <Losha> jkd4_: by definition, no...
[13:56] <jkd4_> bastid_raZor: I did?
[13:57] <abhi_nav> airstrike: there are three buttons on that windows. click on 'Always....
[13:57] <abhi_nav> '
[13:58] <Arti> hi to all
[13:58] <deathtech> Has anyone been able to successfully install an xbox 360 controller in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[13:58] <vegpuff> I'm able to access console. But the gnome screen is totally blank
[13:59] <benlu> why rythmbox play 1st song then no sound the 2nd?
[13:59] <kop> I made a bootable 9.10 usb drive with the gui tool in 9.10 -- it works fine until I update it through update manager then it hangs with "can not find 2.6.30.20 foo " any ideas ? it worked fine until I tried to upgrade it .
[13:59] <aitiba> join #virtualbox
[13:59] <deathtech> I seem to find very differentiated information
[14:00] <jkd4_> could anyone tell me what "interactive editing control for GRUB menu" is?
[14:01] <tarzeau> jkd4_: you press "e" in grub menu, and then edit stuff
[14:01] <tarzeau> jkd4_: that's interactive
[14:01] <Dr_Willis_> and editing :)
[14:01] <benlu> Hello
[14:02] <deathtech> it seems the most recent ubuntu approved wiki guide for installing an Xbox 360 controller to ubuntu is from 7.10 :(
[14:03] <Dr_Willis_> Hmm. Plug them in and they work? :) Ive never tried one
[14:03] <masu3701> is there a channel for resume writing?
[14:03] <benlu> Plazma: WHy no soung the 2nd?
[14:03] <lng> hi! is there ApacheBench in Ubuntu?
[14:03] <Dr_Willis_> masu3701: perhaps  #howtolie   :)  that would be a VERY specific channel. Id be suprised at one existing
[14:04] <masu3701> k
[14:04] <r33d> so here's a question.... if something is being labeled as "will not compile under ubuntu 9.10", is there anyway i can trick it into doing so (i'm talking about OpenCOLLADA plugins for Maya)
[14:05] <Dr_Willis_> r33d:  they proberly say that due to other issues.. not a trick
[14:05] <benlu> bye
[14:06] <r33d> well i was slamming my head in a wall for like a week about it, and then i dug through the forums and found a quote from one of the devs that went like this "won't work on ubuntu 9.10, we just haven't upgraded yet"
[14:06] <r33d> so then i tried running 9.04 in a VM
[14:06] <r33d> and that didn't work either, but my kung fu isn't strong enough to figure out why
[14:07] <masu3701> hi
[14:07] <r33d> are karmic users still considered "early adopters" or something?
[14:07] <bazhang> masu3701, hi
[14:08] <vegpuff> Hi, is there anyway i can see gdm/gnome error logs?
[14:08] <vegpuff> my gnome screen is blank after logging in
[14:08] <testeer> Hello everyone, any command through terminal to delete(clear) all unnecessary files on Ubuntu?
[14:08] <kop> I made a bootable 9.10 usb drive with the gui tool in 9.10 -- it works fine until I update it through update manager then it hangs with "can not find 2.6.30.20 foo " any ideas ? it worked fine until I tried to upgrade it .
[14:08] <abhi_nav> ohhhhh!!!
[14:09] <jalons> testeer: The problem with that request is how do you define unnecessary?
[14:09] <kop> r33d, not really just "me firsters" at this point
[14:09] <testeer> jalons, clear cache.
[14:09] <sipior> r33d: projects don't always have the manpower to keep up with every single linux distribution. consider running an LTS release to insulate yourself from this sort of thing.
[14:10] <testeer> jalons, sudo apt-get autoclean does the job?
[14:10] <r33d> i'll just wait until 10.04 comes out and not upgrade i guess.... i have most things the way i want them now
[14:10] <jalons> testeer: there are lots of caches - that will clear the apt cache
[14:10] <desidiosus> hi
[14:11] <testeer> I knew a command but I forgot it jalons. Thanks
[14:11] <kop> r33d, then you upgrade and it's like you temporarily lost your eyesight and someone moved all the furniture
[14:11] <testeer> on 9.10 I receive only Normal updates. To get 10.04 when is out, I must turn it to LTS updates?
[14:11] <r33d> heres something offtopic, but i figured somebody in here might know the answer... chat in ##c++ is moderated.... why? will that end?
[14:11] <r33d> kop, yeah i know
[14:12] <Pici> !register | r33d
[14:12] <r33d> but its the same way if i wipe 9.10 and do an install of 9.04
[14:12] <r33d> pici, thanks
[14:12] <Pici> testeer: No, you don't need to change anything.  That option is there for people who only use LTS releases.
[14:13] <testeer> Pici, 9.10 isn't an LTS right?
[14:13] <abhi_nav> testeer: no it isnt
[14:13] <Pici> testeer: Correct. 6.06, 8.04, and (upcoming 10.04) are the only LTS releases thus far.
[14:14] <YingFan> If I have an intel 64-bit machine I choose AMD64 and if I have an amd 32-bit machine I choose Intel x86, right?
[14:14] <Pici> YingFan: Yes.
[14:14] <testeer> Pici, nice but when I want to be on 10.04 how I will upgrade? (If I stay on Normal releases)
[14:14] <YingFan> brilliant, thanks
[14:14] <Pici> testeer: You will be notified by update-manager.
[14:14] <testeer> Alright PIci, Thanks
[14:14]  * kop can't wait to see what 10.04 breaks , no wait , yes I can 
[14:16] <testeer> With 9.04 I couldn't read anything on my laptop because of Graphic's Card drivers (problem which solved now on 9.10) I hope to be fine on 10.04
[14:16] <kop> I made a bootable 9.10 usb drive with the gui tool in 9.10 -- it works fine until I update it through update manager then it hangs with "can not find 2.6.30.20 foo " any ideas ? it worked fine until I tried to upgrade it . I even tried to write grub to it this time :-/
[14:18] <grj> \join bimbrownia.org
[14:18] <grj> *
[14:20]  * kop kicks ubuntu in the meebocks 
[14:21] <testeer> grj should be banned.
[14:21] <Pici> testeer: Eh?
[14:21] <testeer> He did an advertise (invite actually)
[14:22] <testeer> to a network
[14:22] <Pici> Uboss: It looks like he mistyped actually.
[14:22] <Uboss> :P
[14:23] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:24] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[14:24] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[14:24] <FloodBot4> !netsplit
[14:24] <woodyjlw> hi, Is there any native linux utilities that can take all your wma files and convert them to standard mp3 format? im new to linux so need one that is not to complicated for a average user
[14:24] <YingFan> does the beta1 have a specific release date, or is just available from start so to speak and continously built on until it's not beta anymore?
[14:26] <TecoMestre> Good morning everyone?
[14:26] <hxhjx> hi
[14:26] <Pici> YingFan : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[14:26] <TecoMestre> I'm having a little problem with the taskbar Ubuntu 9.10: that the network icon, it always goes off like there's no connection. What can be?
[14:29] <[APEX]> who knows how to make deb-packet from python source file?
[14:30] <varesino85> !list
[14:31] <TecoMestre> I'm having a little problem with the taskbar Ubuntu 9.10: that the network icon, it always goes off like there's no connection. What can be?
[14:31] <Roasted> Is anybody here a die hard WICD fan? Trying to decide if perhaps I should switch to it instead of network manager. But I'd kind of like to hear some user opinions before I run other software on my work laptop.
[14:32] <hwilde> hello, when I ssh -X into another machine and run firefox it is running locally not on the remote machine how is that even possible??
[14:32] <arvind_khadri> !poll | Roasted
[14:32] <Roasted> As I said, still looking for user opinions.
[14:32] <Roasted> thanks
[14:33] <arvind_khadri> hwilde, is X forwarding enabled ?
[14:33] <hwilde> arvind_khadri, yes every other program forwards appropriately.  try it for yourself and see.
[14:34] <arvind_khadri> ssh -X <application> , will make the application of the other machine run at your machine hwilde
[14:35]  * Pillowtester is away: Occupée
[14:35] <hwilde> arvind_khadri, try it for yourself.  firefox is running locally and loads local bookmarks.
[14:36] <hwilde> hello, when I ssh -X into another machine and run firefox it is running locally not on the remote machine how is that even possible??
[14:37] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  ive seen a few others mention somthing similer.. but ive never paid much attention to it.
[14:37] <hwilde> Dr_Willis_, if you ssh -X into some machine, run any application, it runs and forwards X.  if you run firefox it runs locally with local bookmarks
[14:37] <hwilde> a) that's not expected behavior
[14:37] <hwilde> b) I don't even see how it's possible
[14:38] <chr7> hello
[14:38] <wols_> hwilde: what does ps say?
[14:39] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  it dosent seem to be doing it here
[14:39] <gabriele> CIAO!
[14:40] <hwilde> wols_, Dr_Willis_ ,   ps says that firefox is running locally not on the remote computer
[14:40] <Diverdude> when is the next ubuntu version coming? 01/04?
[14:41] <hwilde> wols_, Dr_Willis_,  if for example I run xclock then it shows up in ps on the remote machine and it says in the title bar  xclock (on remote machine)
[14:41] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  yes. i know what you mean.. ive seen OTHERS in here mention the exact same thing.. ive NOT had it happen here.
[14:41] <Dr_Willis_> but all my FF's are all identical . so im trying to check it out
[14:42] <gwern> so, I have a line in my crontab, '@daily for file in ~/*.pdf; do (evince $file &); done'. but every time it runs, the PDFs reset to page 1, instead of going as usual to the last page I was at (possibly hundreds of pages in). how can I fix this?
[14:42] <hwilde> Dr_Willis_, just make a bookmark on one.  it loads local profile and shows up in local ps list
[14:43] <gwern> my email crontab logs look like this: http://pastebin.com/sRwe7PTH
[14:43] <gwern> I'm guessing the dbus errors are responsible
[14:43] <Guest23308> !LIST
[14:43] <gwern> (I don't get those dbus errors when launching evince normally)
[14:44] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  i ran one remote and one local :)  they dident complain.. but the wife is yelling... bbl
[14:44] <gwern> if I manually fire up dash, evince works right as well
[14:46] <Guest23308> !LIST
[14:46] <hwilde> Guest23308, stop that
[14:47] <bobstro> gwern: why are you launching evince against all your pdfs?
[14:47] <BuGo_laptop> why copying files from my HDD to usb HDD takes >50% my processor
[14:48] <BuGo_laptop> and my system become so lagy
[14:48] <ehazlett> genii, using the debconf priority critical still shows the migration assistant (i'm using the ubiquity graphical installer...)
[14:48] <kaffien> anyone know how i could get a sierra wireless device to work in ubuntu?
[14:48] <erUSUL> kaffien: find out what chip the device uses
[14:49] <bobstro> gwern: lots of hits on that GConf message, you might start there
[14:49] <BuGo_laptop> anyone?
[14:49] <fsl> Hi, anyone can point me to a project that uses markdown for its documentation?
[14:49] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  its definatly running the one on the REMOTE machine here - i changed the themes. :)
[14:50] <jcm2302> hello ubuntu users
[14:50] <hwilde> Dr_Willis_, oh well I am running opera now...
[14:50] <Schani> hi
[14:50] <erUSUL> kaffien: lspci or lsusb
[14:50] <Dr_Willis_> I was going to change the persona.. but did they remove the persona feature in 3.6 ?
[14:50] <BuGo_laptop> jcm2302, it sounded like anonymous alcoholics
[14:50] <BuGo_laptop> hello jcm2302
[14:50] <hwilde> Dr_Willis_, you mean profile? http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Profiles
[14:50] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  yep - the few times ive seen people mention  that issue.. they just used some other browser or got it done.. and never really debugged it much
[14:50] <vegpuff> hi
[14:51] <gwern> bobstro: the idea is that I keep 3 or 4 PDFs I am in the middle of reading in ~/, and every morning, I read some of each; thus making steady progress. (If I had to remember to read them, I probably wouldn't. hence the automation)
[14:51] <vegpuff> any idea how i can see debug logs for gnome?
[14:51] <jcm2302> my name is james ani i hate windows
[14:51] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  the quick theme/skin feature I saw ages ago. :)
[14:51] <vegpuff> my gnome screen is always blank
[14:51] <yussefmh> hi
[14:51] <yussefmh> i've a problem in window ,,of ubuntu themes
[14:51] <yussefmh> all of themes are like tyhis
[14:51] <yussefmh> http://i44.tinypic.com/2zq8u3r.png
[14:51] <Uboss> jcm2302, Welcome to Ubuntu Community.
[14:51] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  NOW this is odd.. I opened that url here in weechat/gnome-terminal and it LOADED not in the local machines browser.. but in the remote machines browser
[14:52] <jcm2302> whats your problem
[14:52] <hwilde> Dr_Willis_, yeah it's weird.  I don't even see how it's possible
[14:52] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  so some how firefox is talking to the local box? or local commands can talk to the remote-but-seen locally firefox
[14:52] <jcm2302> with themes
[14:52] <bobstro> gwern: ah, so it's just launching evince to view. gotcha. i had some evince issues recently, but not that. the gconf messages look like a good place to start from the bit of googling i did.
[14:52] <kaffien> erUSUL, it's the Sierra Compass 597  usbpci
[14:52] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  and NOW if i start firefox locally.. it is using the new theme.....
[14:52] <kaffien> errr
[14:52] <gwern> bobstro: the gconf errors seem to be very widely common and generally inapplicable to me; eg, my /tmp is on the hard drive, not ram, so that can't be it
[14:53] <erUSUL> kaffien: if it is a usb dongle use « lsusb » to find out the details
[14:53] <kaffien> anyhow ubuntu detects it in the network manager but it wont connect
[14:53] <hwilde> Dr_Willis_, haha try bookmarks too they will be weird
[14:53] <bobstro> gwern: in my case, i'd symlinked /tmp to a larger drive. evince was the only app that seemed to care.
[14:53] <yussefmh> i've a problem with windows in gnome ?? <yussefmh> i've a problem in window ,,of ubuntu themes  i want it normal
[14:53] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  i closed the remote FF's then started it locally again... and its back to using the local one without the theme..
[14:53] <aurilliance> Whenever I go to change the proxy settings and hit "Apply System Wide" the "please authorise root privelages" dialog that pops up freezes for about 2 minutes, then lets me type my password. Can someone else confirm that this happens to them, or is it just me?
[14:53] <aurilliance> Should I file a bug?
[14:53] <gwern> bobstro: and similarly one of the common diagnoses is dbus not running, yet as I said the error only manifests when run from cron, not when run manually
[14:53] <Pici> gwern: You need to pass information regarding your graphical session to your crontab, as it doesn't have any knowledge of that. i.e, you need to set DISPLAY, etc before you can run any commands.
[14:54] <kaffien> erUSUL, just says sierra wireless inc
[14:54] <bobstro> gwern: environment different from cron perhaps?
[14:54] <gwern> Pici: I have 'DISPLAY=:0.0' on a line; do I need more?
[14:54] <erUSUL> kaffien: « lsusb -v » ?
[14:54] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  i bet its simthing similer thats going on when you think its a local FF running when it should be a remote. I bet the firefox scripts some how see one allready running and elect to use it.
 i've a problem in window ,,of ubuntu themes  <yussefmh> i've a problem in window ,,of ubuntu themes
[14:54] <Pici> gwern: You may. I don't know what though.
[14:54] <yussefmh> please help ..
[14:54] <Pici> !detauls | yussefmh
[14:54] <bobstro> gwern: login verus interactive shell, etc.?
[14:54] <kaffien> didnt catcht he -v
[14:54] <Pici> !details | yussefmh
[14:54] <yussefmh> http://i44.tinypic.com/2zq8u3r.png
[14:54] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  if you have all FF's closed.. ssh in, and run a FF. it is the remote.. If you have ONE allready running.. it pops up the  local one again
[14:54] <Plugh> I have a working sound system on my Ubuntu Karmic install on my desktop but it doesn't play the system ready sound when it is ready for users to log in. How do I get it to play that sound?
[14:54] <gwern> bobstro: well, my next hack is trying wrapping it in a 'bash -ci '...''
[14:55] <Uboss> yussefmh, change the theme if that does work.
[14:55] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  at least thats how it seems to be working here
[14:55] <hwilde> Dr_Willis_, close ALL my firefoxes??  blasphemy!
[14:55] <yussefmh> Uboss
[14:55] <yussefmh> Uboss not working
[14:55] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  i had one local and one remote working earlier.. but cant replicate it now. :)
[14:55] <gwern> hm. I wonder what $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS does
[14:55] <yussefmh> Uboss  restarted my pc couple times
[14:55] <Uboss> yussefmh, did you mess up anything?
[14:55] <yussefmh> Uboss  nope
[14:55] <kaffien> erUSUL, your looking for the 'iproduct' ?
[14:55] <dr4g> How to change the MOTD when i initially login to my box via SSH.
[14:55] <Uboss> yussefmh, which theme do you have applied?
[14:56] <erUSUL> kaffien: maybe
[14:56] <bobstro> gwern: i'm wondering if crontab is best place to even do that.
[14:56] <gwern> $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is set when I run dash in urxvt. hm
[14:56] <yussefmh> Uboss  new wave !!
[14:56] <erUSUL> kaffien: maybe « lshw -C Network » is better in this case
[14:56] <kaffien> it says sierra wireless compass 597 EVDO Modem
[14:56] <CalmvsKhaos> How can I tell which version of Gnome I have by command line?
[14:56] <Uboss> yussefmh, and what's wrong with it? Explain exactly.
[14:56] <gabriele_> CIAO!
[14:56] <gwern> bobstro: where else would I do it? I prefer to avoid gnome infrastructure since I don't trust it and it's hard to backup
[14:56] <erUSUL> kaffien: it is a modem ? 3G modem ? not a wifi controller?
[14:56] <gwern> bobstro: crontab, on the other hand, I can do things like '@weekly crontab -l > ~/doc/archive/backups/crontab-$(date +%s)$$'
[14:56] <erUSUL> !it | gabriele_
[14:57] <bobstro> gwern: well, that sounds more like a session thing. no sense trying to run it if not in gui, etc.
[14:57] <kaffien> yes it is a 3g modem
[14:57] <yussefmh> Uboss  the windows ,, there is a button called X  and the minimize and maxmize
[14:57] <bobstro> gwern: but 1st try the environment fix... at least see if that's the problem.
[14:57] <kaffien> sierra wireless makes 3g modems sorry i assumed  everyone knew
[14:57] <gwern> bobstro: if it fails, there's no issue, so why bother with the conditional?
[14:57] <erUSUL> kaffien: aaaps ok; does not work via network manager. right click on the nm icon choose Edit connections
[14:57] <bobstro> gwern: didn't mean to sidetrack you.
[14:57] <yussefmh> Uboss  the places changed .. i don't know how !!
[14:58] <Uboss> yussefmh, where are they? It should be on your right.
[14:58] <gwern> bobstro: conditionals only make sense if you're going to do something besides error out. why catch an exception just to rethrow it?
[14:58] <yussefmh> Uboss .. hard to me english :(
[14:58] <aurilliance> Whenever I go to change the proxy settings and hit "Apply System Wide" the "please authorise root privelages" dialog that pops up freezes for about 2 minutes, then lets me type my password. Can someone else confirm that this happens to them, or is it just me?
[14:58] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  thats exactly wht its doing.. its seeing whatever one is allready running and somenow 'using it' instead of the new one
[14:58] <yussefmh> Uboss .. yes they are in right
[14:58] <Uboss> yussefmh, what is your main language?
[14:58] <erUSUL> yussefmh: there are channels for many languages
[14:59] <kaffien> erUSUL, yep there now ... number is set to #777
[14:59] <Uboss> yussefmh, then you don't have any problem if they appear there.
[14:59] <yussefmh> Uboss , no no  ,it's arabic and it's empty
[14:59] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  trying out some of the firefox scripts and seeing if i an force it to not do it.
[14:59] <bobstro> gwern: just saying this sounds more like something you'd launch when opening a gui session. is it actually opening anything up when run from crontab?
[14:59] <yussefmh> Uboss but the UI is English
[14:59] <gwern> bobstro: sure, the pdfs open up (once I added the DISPLAY var anyway)
[14:59] <piojunbabia> what does it mean why i have a .desktop file on my desktop? what does .desktop file do?
[14:59] <bobstro> gwern: ah, i was wondering about environment. :)
[15:00] <gwern> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1147321 makes it sound like I need that dbus env var
[15:00] <Uboss> yussefmh, you don't see - ^ X symbols at all?
[15:00] <bobstro> gwern: crontab-launched will get a different environment.
[15:00] <Dr_Willis_> hwilde:  Figured it out. :) use the 'firefox -no-remote' option
[15:00] <aurilliance> Whenever I go to change the proxy settings and hit "Apply System Wide" the "please authorise root privelages" dialog that pops up freezes for about 2 minutes, then lets me type my password. Can someone else confirm that this happens to them, or is it just me?
[15:01] <gwern> hm. 'export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=$(grep "^DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=" /home/$USER/.dbus/session-bus/`cat /var/lib/dbus/machine-id`-0 |cut -d'=' -f2-)'
[15:01] <Dr_Willis_> piojunbabia:  .desktop files define programs and menu entries and auto start  items.
[15:01] <Dr_Willis_> piojunbabia:  its a text file. open it up and look at it.
[15:01] <bobstro> gwern: i'm not saying you *can't* make it work in crontab, but it seems you're doing a lot of work to emulate your desktop session in crontab.
[15:02]  * gwern blames evince for not storing the per-pdf state in .evince or something
[15:02] <bobstro> gwern: but it normally does when used from gui, right?
[15:02] <gwern> bobstro: yeah
[15:02] <Uboss> Anyone speaks Arabic in this room to help yussefmh ?
[15:02] <genii> ehazlett: Find the stanza which begins then with a commented line: ## MIGRATION-ASSISTANT and comment out the lines below, starting with the one: d-i anna/choose_modules multiselect migration-assistant  and ending with the last one which starts with: d-i migration-assistant/
[15:02] <Pici> Uboss: Hes not here anymore.  And #ubuntu-sa might be useful.
[15:03] <Uboss> Pici, sorry I didn't notice it. ChatZilla doesn't show me.
[15:03] <ehazlett> genii, my preseed doesn't even have that.
[15:03] <remoteCTRL> !dvd
[15:04] <ehazlett> genii, it would be fine if it ran, but when using a preseed file, the forward button is disabled.  the only thing i can click is quit which cancels the install
[15:05] <Uboss> Have a nice day everybody!
[15:05] <genii> ehazlett: There might be some way to give it the string value of "note" but I'm not familiar with the values which can be passed to that section (I use preseeding on the non-graphical  installer)
[15:05] <leagris> Uboss, did you try on #ubuntu-ma or #ubuntu-sa ?
[15:05] <ehazlett> genii, gotcha.  thanks for the help
[15:05] <remi> is there a way to get the hostname of a server using its internal IP address if I'm on the same LAN?
[15:05] <Uboss> leagris, the user who wanted help quited.
[15:06] <bobstro> gwern: i'm thinking either 1.) deal with the interactive-versus-login shell environment issues when launching from crontab, or 2) create a script to launch, then put that in your session startup.
[15:07] <bobstro> remi: what sort of server?
[15:07] <bobstro> remi: windows/samba?
[15:07] <aurilliance> Whenever I go to change the proxy settings and hit "Apply System Wide" the "please authorise root privelages" dialog that pops up freezes for about 2 minutes, then lets me type my password. Can someone else confirm that this happens to them, or is it just me?
[15:07] <remi> bobstro: linux
[15:07] <remi> or samba, maybe :)
[15:07] <bobstro> remi: is reverse dns lookup available?
[15:08] <remi> bobstro: I don't know...
[15:08] <gwern> bobstro: I'm going to try the $DBUS finding scripting
[15:10] <Clay^Work> aurilliance: It is instant for me
[15:10] <bobstro> remi: install nbtscan if it's a samba/windows box.
[15:11] <bobstro> remi: what are you trying to do?
[15:11] <aurilliance> Clay^Work, ok, thanks
[15:12] <remi> bobstro: I ran tcpdump and saw that I had lots of traffic with 10.0.1.92. I wanted to see if there was a hostname associated to it, so I could which server it is
[15:13] <bobstro> remi: you can ping it? what ports is it showing?
[15:13] <bobstro> remi: put the tcpdump in wireshark and you should be able to see what it's doing.
[15:13] <aurilliance> !wireshark
[15:14] <aurilliance> What's the package for wireshark?
[15:14] <EDinNY> Anyone know how to make the CHROME browser launch from Evolution?
[15:14] <aurilliance> EDinNY, System>Preferences>Default Applications?
[15:14] <bobstro> aurilliance: wireshark
[15:14] <Pirate_Hunter> is the default lvm for ubuntu lvm2?
[15:14] <aurilliance> bobstro, thanks. Go figure
[15:14] <bobstro> aurilliance: :)
[15:15] <aurilliance> ARG
[15:15] <bobstro> remi: wireshark will let you do a tcp stream and is real handy for that sort of thing
[15:15] <aurilliance> apt has been trying to use a proxy that I had enabled earlier today. How can I tell it to stop using a proxy!!?
[15:16] <hal> does anyone know how to resolve this error that I received when updating the kernel?  ERROR: isw device for volume "ARRAY0" broken on /dev/sda in RAID set "isw_dcdidjihfb_ARRAY0"
[15:16] <hal> I am not using raid, btw
[15:17] <aurilliance> how can I tell apt-get to stop using a proxy server?
[15:17] <jmcantrell> isn't there a way to add ppa's over the command line that adds the gpg key, too?
[15:17] <aurilliance> My system settings all say that there is no proxy server enabled :(
[15:18] <Pici> jmcantrell: add-apt-repository ppa:something/something
[15:18] <jmcantrell> Pici: thanks
[15:18] <piojunbabia> Dr_Willis_: thanks now i know... :)
[15:18] <Pici> jmcantrell: You'll need python-software-properties installed for that, which for some reason wasn't on my server, so ymmv
[15:19] <omri> aurilliance look at your /etc/bash.bashrc
[15:19] <omri> look or the lines with proxy
[15:19] <EDinNY> aurilliance, what does "System>Preferences>Default" launch?  I am using Kubuntu and I dont think my menu is set up that way.  in settings>system settings>default applications, Google-Chrome is already the default.  I think that there is another set of associations for Gnome programs
[15:20] <bastid_raZor> awrey54532646tgw4yt n5476hu56y76t5 ~bbbbbtg67b               7c~c                                              86786gggggggggggggg7c 8;3
[15:20] <hvgotcodes> in alsa mixer how do i set my digital input to my mic?
[15:20] <xp> hi
[15:21] <xp> how can i setup bluetooth
[15:21] <xp> its not working
[15:21] <aurilliance> EDinNY, I'm on netbook remix and I guessed the menu path ;) but if chrome is already set as the default I'd say you're right, there must be another set of settings. Cant help you there sorry :(
[15:21] <omri> hvgotcodes try tab in alsamixer there are settings for mic u can change
[15:21] <aurilliance> !details | xp
[15:22] <xp> any one give the way to make bluetooth working
[15:22] <EDinNY> so, my question is where are the associations set in Gnome and how to change them...there is probably a filepath I can put in nautalis to do it, I just dont remember what it is
[15:22] <hvgotcodes> omri, the only tabs are one for my sound card and one for hdmi out
[15:22] <aurilliance> !details | xp
[15:22] <xp> ys
[15:22] <xp> i open btscanner now
[15:22] <omri> hvgotcodes alsamixer from terminal then tab
[15:23] <omri> capture and input source are there
[15:23] <gabriele_>  	/msg eW]-Inka XDCC SEND #22
[15:23] <zak89> hey
[15:23] <dove> hi all
[15:24] <hvgotcodes> omri, i see a bunch of bars,  I see 2 Digital columns but both are empty
[15:24] <ahau> Que onda banda?
[15:25] <omri> hvgotcodes beneath the bar you can select the input source with arro keys
[15:25] <hvgotcodes> omri, right thanx
[15:25] <hvgotcodes> lets see if this works
[15:25] <omri> np
[15:26] <zak89> in C++ i did in a file cin>>marks; cin.get(ch); it says empty buffer in the comment ???
[15:27] <aurilliance> How can I launch a task in a new process from the terminal
[15:27] <aurilliance> ie sudo gedit myfile.txt
[15:27] <aurilliance> but not have gedit take up the terminal?
[15:27] <piojunbabia> zak89: i dont think this is a programming channel
[15:27] <aurilliance> zak89, #c++ ?
[15:28] <omri> add ? after
[15:28] <deathtech> anyone here play warcraft 3 in nix ?
[15:28] <wols_> aurilliance: sudo gedit myfile.txt&
[15:28] <Trek> !ot | deathtech
[15:28] <zak89> aurilliance: i am getting this message: Cannot send to channel: ##c++
[15:28] <zak89> when i type something
[15:28] <wols_> zak89: what are you doing again?
[15:29] <deathtech> just updated to 1.24e from a fresh install, and it is supposed to remove no cd checking. I am installing this game on UBUNTU 9.10 , which is why i asked here, but its not working
[15:29] <wols_> zak89: you must identify to nickserv by registering your nick to be able to write in there
[15:29] <wols_> deathtech: check appdb.winehq.org
[15:29] <omri> aurilliance add & after the command
[15:29] <aurilliance> wols_, that's great! thanks!
[15:29] <aurilliance> omri, thanks :)
[15:30] <abhi_nav> deathtech: what is 1.24e?
[15:30] <deathtech> also i cant get my xbox 360 controller to work in 9.10
[15:30] <wols_> abhi_nav: a version number of his game
[15:30] <abhi_nav> wols___ ooooo I see
[15:30] <abhi_nav> wols_ ^^
[15:30] <deathtech> 1.24e is the latest patch for WC3, i installed it in nix hoping i could play it :p
[15:30] <deathtech> thanks wols_
[15:30] <zak89> wols_: ok thanks
[15:31] <gharz> guys, how do i rip musics from a CD?
[15:31] <arakthor> gharz: I like a program called sound juicer. it should be available from synaptic
[15:31] <epaphus> What is the best way to give permissions for some users in ubuntu to use openoffice and other not?
[15:31] <gharz> arakthor: thanks!!!!!!!!
[15:31] <Trek> deathtech, you have Wine installed (first thought)?
[15:31] <epaphus> or in general how to give permissions to some users to use some apps and others not?
[15:32] <THZone> Hi, can anyone help me with this error: 6:~$ sudo wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode ap
[15:32] <THZone> [sudo] password for don:
[15:32] <THZone> wlanconfig: ioctl: Input/output error
[15:32] <haavaros> Hi! How can I make a gnome-terminal launcher always have iso8859-1 char set when I start it? Now it starts in Utf-8
[15:32] <gharz> arakthor: rhythm box does not have that feature??
[15:32] <xgpt> anyone know of a good place to ask questions about typography?
[15:32] <Dr_Willis_> haavaros:  you checked its settings/profiles?
[15:32] <wols_> !tell epaphus about permissions
[15:33] <epaphus> wolf, is there any advantage of using that versus acls?
[15:33] <aurilliance> xgpt, if you find one, let me know
[15:33] <aurilliance> xgpt, check #freenode
[15:33] <wols_> THZone: iwconfig
[15:33] <xgpt> thanks aurilliance
[15:33] <THZone> wols_: yeah?
[15:33] <wols_> THZone: run it. pastebin the restult
[15:34] <wols_> *result
[15:34] <THZone> http://pastebin.ca/1849287
[15:34] <kaffien> erUSUL, the 597 model just sucks
[15:34] <kaffien> lol
[15:34] <kaffien> the 598 model works great
[15:35] <jessi>          
[15:35] <jessi> hola
[15:35] <mrman> hello
[15:35] <Trek> THZone, your internet isn't connecting, huh?
[15:35] <Trek> !hi | mrman
[15:35] <THZone> nope
[15:35] <mrman> windows is shit
[15:35] <THZone> I'm connected just fine
[15:35] <Trek> then may I ask what the issue is, THZone?
[15:35] <THZone> In fact, I'm connected through this box
[15:35] <THZone> I want to use the box as a wireless AP
[15:36] <THZone> Since it's currently my home firewall
[15:36] <Trek> THZone: you want it to be an open wireless AP?
[15:36] <Trek> with a pw?
[15:36] <THZone> It's got eBox running on it - Dual WAN configuration.
[15:36] <Xaevo> hello
[15:36] <THZone> I'd like to, yes
[15:36] <Trek> THZone, you will need two networking cards to effectively make that happen
[15:36] <Xaevo> is it possible to access your windows system from a WUBI installation?
[15:36] <THZone> I have three.
[15:37] <hal> has anyone tried skype on ubuntu?  Is it any good?
[15:37] <THZone> Everything BUT the wireless part of the network is set up and working fine.
[15:37] <wols_> Trek: he has two
[15:37] <omri> hal its alright
[15:37] <abhi_nav> hal: yah I am using it. it is working fine.
[15:37] <piojunbabia> hal: there is skype in repo, you can try it...
[15:37] <hal> abhi_nav: cool
[15:37] <abhi_nav> yah, but latest version is better
[15:37] <Trek> THZone / wols_: WICD or Network Manager out of curiosity?
[15:38]  * Nijverheid tickles Redache
[15:38] <hal> piojunbabia: oh really, I couldn't find it
[15:38] <abhi_nav> hal: yah, but latest version is better
[15:38] <Trek> !ot | Nijverheid
[15:38] <THZone> wha?
[15:38] <abhi_nav> hal: :
[15:38] <abhi_nav> hal: :D
[15:38] <hal> abhi_nav: ok, I will try that one
[15:38] <THZone> Sorry, I'm kind of ignorant.
[15:38] <abhi_nav> hal: hmm
[15:38] <wols_> THZone: why aren't you using ath5k?
[15:38] <Nijverheid> !fu | Trek
[15:38] <Xaevo> is it possible to access your windows system from a WUBI installation?
[15:38] <hal> thank you abhi_nav , omri , piojunbabia
[15:38] <Pici> Nijverheid: Thats uncalled for here.
[15:38] <wols_> Trek: he wants to make an AP. not connect to one
[15:38] <Trek> !language | Nijverheid
[15:38] <xgpt> adobe caslon, or garamond for a printed work?
[15:38] <THZone> I've gotten as far as my knowledge can get me, thus I seek help
[15:38] <abhi_nav> hal: welcome
[15:38] <xgpt> opinions?
[15:38] <protojay> is there a network explorer in ubuntu? i need to access a windows share
[15:38] <hal> :)
[15:38] <THZone> wols_: I'm using the madwifi drivers
[15:39] <wols_> THZone: and I ask why
[15:39] <Trek> wols_ if he uses network manager, and has an extra wifi card it can create a wifi point
[15:39] <Trek> for accessing
[15:39] <Pici> xgpt: Try #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[15:39] <THZone> Here's my network:
[15:39] <piojunbabia> hal: ops its not in repo, i wonder how i got mine...lol...
[15:39] <ZykoticK9> protojay, Places / Network
[15:39] <Xaevo> is it possible to access your windows system from a WUBI installation?
[15:39] <THZone> eth0 and eth1 are external.
[15:39] <THZone> eth2 is LAN - 192.168.1.xxx
[15:39] <wols_> Xaevo: just try to mount the ntfs partition
[15:39] <abhi_nav> Xaevo: have you installed wubi?
[15:39] <ZykoticK9> piojunbabia, it was recently removed from Medibuntu - but if you'd installed it before, it would still be on your system
[15:39] <guntbert> !enter | THZone
[15:39] <Xaevo> abhi_nav, not yet.
[15:40] <Trek> THZone: wait, so you have a wifi card or not?
[15:40] <abhi_nav> Xaevo: hmm
[15:40] <THZone> trek: yes
[15:40] <Xaevo> gona use my 8.04 LiveCD for the image
[15:40] <obscurant1st> is there any way of converting a partiotion to hfs+ in ubuntu?
[15:40] <Xaevo> but i want to know if it is possible.
[15:40] <Trek> THZone: where?  and are you connected using wifi right now?
[15:40] <piojunbabia> Zykotick9: i did not know that.. thanks...
[15:40] <Trek> THZone: which card?
[15:40] <THZone> I have 2 external network cards, both with IPs from my ISPs, and an internal network card, AND a wifi card
[15:41] <wrapster> I have jre installed.. but when i try to login to a certain page it says I dont have jre on my machine
[15:41] <THZone> I want this box to act as a network router (which it is performing beautifully at right now) **AND** a WiFi Access point.
[15:41] <wrapster> this is the version of jre running on my machine.. 175 / 70 R14 for Emotion,
[15:41] <Trek> wrapster: make sure you install the java plugin
[15:41] <wrapster> 6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04
[15:41] <wrapster> sorry about that.
[15:41] <Trek> wrapster: hold on a sec, can you wait for a minute?
[15:41] <wrapster> Trek: sure
[15:42] <Trek> wrapster: make sure you install this package: sun-java6-plugin - Contains the plug-in for Mozilla-based browsers
[15:42] <obscurant1st> is there any way of converting a partiotion to hfs+ in ubuntu?
[15:42] <obscurant1st> somebody?
[15:42] <ZykoticK9> wrapster, verify you have "sun-java6-plugin" installed, restart firefox, then go to http://java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml to test
[15:42] <wrapster> ok
[15:42] <Trek> ZykoticK9: i beat you to it
[15:42] <Trek> THZone; the last time I made a wireless AP was with my laptop connected to ethernet.  I had to hook up a second wifi card
[15:43] <THZone> trek, one second please.
[15:43] <KB1JWQ> obscurant1st: Not erally.
[15:43] <Trek> THZone: I then had to use Network Manager to manage the thing
[15:43] <THZone> You're really not understanding me at all.
[15:43] <mrman> well, im out, cu all
[15:43] <KB1JWQ> obscurant1st: Out of the box, Ubuntu only offers read support.
[15:43] <Trek> THZone: you need something to manage the connection, to load it and keep it up
[15:43] <THZone> trk
[15:43] <THZone> Give me a minute, Please.
[15:43] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[15:43] <Trek> THZone; go ahead, sorry, i'm a little over-energized right now
[15:43] <ZykoticK9> obscurant1st, you can't really convert partitions - copy the content to a 3rd media then copy the info back is only way
[15:43] <obscurant1st> KB1JWQ, so i cant do anything from ubuntu to create it??
[15:44] <KB1JWQ> obscurant1st: You can make a new HFS+ partition with the proper tools installed and move data to it, but conversion of filesystems is rarely possible, or well advised for that matter.
[15:44] <obscurant1st> KB1JWQ, i dont want to copy any data, just to create the partiion
[15:44] <obscurant1st> ?
[15:44] <KB1JWQ> obscurant1st: Then yes, I *think* it's possible.
[15:44] <KB1JWQ> Conversion only works from, say, ext3 to xt4, obscurant1st
[15:44] <obscurant1st> KB1JWQ, and how? :o :)
[15:44] <KB1JWQ> ext4*
[15:45] <obscurant1st> create the partiion from free space
[15:45] <obscurant1st> thats what i needed
[15:45] <KB1JWQ> obscurant1st: gparted does it.
[15:45] <rysiek|pl> after a recent xorg upgrade I seem to be having a strange issue. each time after boot, Xorg hogs RAM (got 4GiB + 2GiB swap, all used!), gets OOM-killed, gets up again and works AOK
[15:45] <KB1JWQ> obscurant1st: Having just switched from Mac OS X to Ubuntu, I feel your pain. :-)
[15:45] <rysiek|pl> this takes 10-15mins
[15:46] <KB1JWQ> rysiek|pl: On Karmic?
[15:46] <rysiek|pl> aye
[15:46] <rysiek|pl> karmic
[15:46] <KB1JWQ> rysiek|pl: That's not good.
[15:46] <obscurant1st> KB1JWQ, gparted options for hfs+ grayed out
[15:46] <obscurant1st> thats the problem
[15:46] <KB1JWQ> obscurant1st: Ah, stand by. :-)
[15:46] <KB1JWQ> rysiek|pl: I'd probably check launchpad and file a bug if nobody else has.
[15:46] <obscurant1st> and i want to install (iatkos) mac to my PC, so I am trying out things
[15:47] <KB1JWQ> obscurant1st: installed hfsutils?
[15:47] <rysiek|pl> KB1JWQ: been there, searched that. nothing specific, and I don't want to open bugs without checking here first
[15:47] <FFForever> Is ubottu opensource?
[15:47] <KB1JWQ> FFForever: Yes.
[15:47] <ZykoticK9> rysiek|pl, what graphics card are you using?
[15:47] <obscurant1st> KB1JWQ, i havent
[15:47] <rysiek|pl> KB1JWQ: Intel GMA965 aka X3100
[15:47] <obscurant1st> :o
[15:47] <FFForever> KB1JWQ, where can I get the changes to the factoid module?
[15:47] <KB1JWQ> rysiek|pl: Should be solid.
[15:47] <sudharsh> Hi, I have an intel IGP with a monitor that has a native resolution of 1600x900. Once in a while the resolutions are all botched with the maximum being 800x600. I had tried everywthing as mentioned in the Xorg troubleshooting guide
[15:47] <raptor2> can someone aid me in using scalap to location a tar.gz file extension
[15:47] <sudharsh> even tried setting the Modes manually
[15:47] <KB1JWQ> FFForever: ubottu.com
[15:47] <sudharsh> doesn't work
[15:48] <raptor2> anyone know how to use file carvers? Please help
[15:48] <KB1JWQ> raptor2: What's your question?
[15:48] <raptor2> I need to recover a tar.gz file extension
[15:48] <raptor2> did an rm -rf by accident
[15:48] <raptor2> hoping can recover the file
[15:49] <KB1JWQ> raptor2: No, you need to recover a file that had a pointer with a tar.gz extension directed at it.  Huge difference.
[15:49] <KB1JWQ> raptor2: testdisk is your friend, and don't do ANYTHING on that drive until you've sorted it.
[15:49] <sudharsh> If anyone has a syncmaster 2033 can you tell me the vertrefresh I that I should put in
[15:49] <sudharsh> playing around gives me a optimal 4:3 but not a 16:9
[15:49] <rysiek|pl> KB1JWQ: yeah, so I've heard. gma965 fails; intel 845 on my friend's machine fails; seems like intel fscked up royale
[15:49] <raptor2> I have no choice :(
[15:49] <raptor2> don
[15:49] <KB1JWQ> raptor2: LiveCD
[15:49] <KB1JWQ> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[15:49] <KB1JWQ> raptor2: ^^
[15:49] <KB1JWQ> GO read.
[15:50] <FloodBot4> KB1JWQ: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:50] <ZykoticK9> raptor2, what filesystem are you using?  If it's ext3 or ext4, all I have to say is good luck.  I don't have any suggestions (I'm not sure it's even possible)
[15:50] <obscurant1st> KB1JWQ, i installed hfsutils, but still hfs+ is grayed out!
[15:50] <obscurant1st> :(
[15:50] <PiCi_flossk>  /join #flossk
[15:50] <raptor2> thank you
[15:50] <epaphus> Is it better to use simple file permissions for users not to execute apps, or are ACLs better?
[15:50] <ZykoticK9> raptor2, you can try the testdisk or photorec suggestion someone made
[15:51] <Plugh> raptor2, check the archives of Linux Journal around May or June 2009. They had some articles about file recovery.
[15:51] <obscurant1st> KB1JWQ, ?
[15:51] <rysiek|pl> epaphus: us ethe simplest method that works; if file perms will do the trick, use those
[15:51] <rysiek|pl> *the
[15:52] <epaphus> rysiek|pl, thanks
[15:52] <abhi_nav> sudharsh: which version of ubuntu?
[15:52] <sudharsh> abhi_nav, karmic
[15:52] <jatt> hi, my laptop is on a windows network, it gets an ip address assigned, but how do I know the name of my laptop in the network? Other computers on this network have names like ws-032, ws-012, etc.
[15:53] <THZone> trek: http://imagebin.ca/view/irQ3a1D.html
[15:53] <sam__> hey guys what is the command to bind a gateway
[15:53] <jatt> is there a way to know the name that corresponds to the ip address assigned?
[15:53] <THZone> I hope that helps.
[15:53] <sam__> its like dig wp (local ip)?
[15:53] <sam__> i forget what the comand is?
[15:53] <sam__> to bind a wp
[15:53] <sam__> gw
[15:53] <sam__> sorry
[15:53] <KimK> Does anyone know how to find out from where "Weather Report" (Ubuntu 9.10, top taskbar, right-click, "Add To Panel"...) pulls its weather information for various cities?
[15:53] <FloodBot4> sam__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:53] <Pici> !enter | sam__
[15:53] <jatt> what do you mean by wp?
[15:53] <sam__> i meant gw
[15:54] <Pici> sam__: You probably want 'route' not 'dig'
[15:54] <sam__> its like dig bind gw (local ip) or something so i can acess outside stuff
[15:54] <THZone> Also... having two bots, and a user remind someone not to use the enter key as a punctuation line is... oxymoronic, don't you think?
[15:54] <raptor2> I am going to try to do this.. we will see if it carves
[15:54] <raptor2> tahnks
[15:54] <abhi_nav> sudharsh: It seems that karmic have lots of problem regarding graphics. just before I was talking with one user with same problem. see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1436004. It seems that karmic have hardware driver issues
[15:54] <Pici> THZone: I triggered one of them manually.
[15:54] <sam__> yea the problem is each time i restart i hvae to do the route gw(then IP) or else i cannot acess the outside WAN how do i change that so it basically does that for me etc?
[15:54] <marinapaz> ola
[15:54] <abhi_nav> sudharsh: have you upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10?
[15:55] <THZone> crap, trek poofed.
[15:55] <sudharsh> abhi_nav, yeah, been reading stuff everywhere... :(, i have no idea why Xorg isn't following my xorg.cong
[15:55] <KB1JWQ> obscurant1st: apt-get install  hfsplus hfsutils hfsprogs ntfsprogs
[15:55] <wols_> sam__: how do you get your IP when you boot? dhcp?
[15:55] <abhi_nav> sudharsh: have you upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10?
[15:55] <sudharsh> If I can have the refresh rates i should be good
[15:55] <KB1JWQ> obscurant1st: Er, the NTFS stuff is optional
[15:55] <marinapaz> alguien abla español?
[15:55] <sudharsh> abhi_nav, no, this is a fresh install
[15:56] <wols_> !es
[15:56] <sudharsh> as I said, happens once in a while
[15:56] <abhi_nav> sudharsh: tell me your full computer configuration
[15:56] <sudharsh> couldn't extract a pattern out of it
[15:56] <Plugh> ok, again no one seems to be around who can help with my sound issue. Can anyone give me ideas why Ubuntu Karmic doesn't show my face picture on the gdm login screen? I see the face picture on the laptop.
[15:56] <THZone> actually; wols_ - does that image help explain what I want to you at all?
[15:56] <marinapaz> Hablas español?
[15:56] <sudharsh> abhi_nav, has the intel xorg driver with a samsung 20 incher
[15:56] <sam__> wols_: i get it static
[15:56] <sam__> ther is no DHCP setup
[15:56] <l34k> i'm having trouble with linux on vmware
[15:56] <abhi_nav> sudharsh: no I said computer configuration
[15:56] <l34k> is anybody familiar with it?
[15:57] <wols_> sam__: then pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[15:57] <l34k> vmware, that is
[15:57] <abhi_nav> l34k: which linux?
[15:57] <wols_> l34k: ask your real question
[15:57] <l34k> ubuntu
[15:57] <sam__> dammit its offline
[15:57] <sam__> its like
[15:57] <sam__> it has an
[15:57] <abhi_nav> !details | l34k
[15:57] <Pici> sam__: Please stop pressing enter between every three words.
[15:57] <root_grapefruit> hey guys I have an eee pc and the card reader isn't working. Does anybody know what to do? I installed eee-applet and actived the cardreader with it.
[15:58] <sam__> uggh i will have to pastebin later today.. because right now im away from the office and i reboot etc.. cannot acces the machine b/c no VPN to connect to LAN LOL
[15:58] <obscurant1st> thx KB1JWQ, it helped
[15:58] <sudharsh> abhi_nav, just a normal computer with 500GB HD/4 GB RAM... But I don't see how it will help my issue here :D, its just an Intel board with 3 Ghz
[15:58] <l34k> wols_: i am having trouble getting any shared connectivity between my main os (mac) and the vm: also i seem to require the linux-header 2.6.3something despite having it
[15:58] <abhi_nav> sudharsh: wihch processor? which motherboard?
[15:58] <l34k> Linux iluvsnowy-desktop 2.6.31-20-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 05:23:09 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:58] <l34k> Linux iluvsnowy-desktop 2.6.31-20-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 05:23:09 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:58] <abhi_nav> sudharsh: 32 or 64 bit?
[15:58] <sudharsh> abhi_nav, 32 bit
[15:59] <wols_> sam__: as an example, see http://paste.debian.net/65314/
[15:59] <KB1JWQ> obscurant1st: Glad you got it sorted.
[15:59] <THZone> wols_: allo?
[15:59] <wols_> THZone: yes?
[15:59] <hxhjx> why i cant join the php channel ? -.-
[15:59] <hxhjx> allways overflow :(
[15:59] <THZone> http://imagebin.ca/view/irQ3a1D.html - Does that help explain what I'm trying to do?
[15:59] <sam__> yea it is very similar... has all the same stuff
[15:59] <wols_> l34k: dpkg -l linux-header*; uname -r
[15:59] <Pici> !register | hxhjx you need to register/identify first
[15:59] <abhi_nav> sudharsh: wihch processor? which motherboard?
[15:59] <wols_> sam__: you don't have the gateway line or you wouldn't have to run route everytime
[16:00] <sam__> and gateway is just hte IP of the router correct?
[16:00] <Taev> hey I got a question, is there a way to assign higher bandwith priority to a specific application under Ubuntu?
[16:00] <wols_> sam__: yes
[16:00] <sam__> hmm ok i will have to check i m 100% sure i have a gateway line with my router IP but
[16:00] <hvgotcodes> what are the capture elements in alsa mixer?
[16:00] <l34k> wols_ http://pastebin.ca/1849317
[16:00] <wols_> Taev: you can lower priority for all others. lartc.org
[16:01] <shadoom> hello
[16:01] <Taev> i don't really want to do that
[16:01] <l34k> hi
[16:01] <Taev> i just want to increase my eggdrop's bandwith priority
[16:01] <magedragon25> I have an hp pavillion dv6z running 9.10 64bit with integrated fingerprint swiper....I want to find a driver for it, any ideas?
[16:01] <abhi_nav> sudharsh: wihch processor? which motherboard?
[16:01] <sudharsh> abhi_nav, a moment
[16:01] <asphael> i have been trying to install ubuntu using pxe i have setup the dhcp server tftpd-hpa
[16:01] <abhi_nav> sudharsh: okkk
[16:02] <wols_> l34k: you have the headers it seems. dunno why vmware complains. as for the network: how do you want to have it set up?
[16:02] <sudharsh> abhi_nav, here you go http://dpaste.com/174763/
[16:02] <wols_> l34k: tho, a vmware channel is probably more suited
[16:02] <wols_> Taev: you cannot increase priortiy. net neutrality, remember?
[16:02] <l34k> wols_ i wanted to have a shared folder
[16:02] <wols_> all you can do is decrease all other's
[16:03] <wols_> l34k: that has nothing to do with network setup
[16:03] <l34k> or at least someway to move things onto the vm from my home os
[16:03] <asphael> but i keep geting an error on the client arp timeout acn any one help me ?
[16:03] <l34k> as it is now, ubuntu doesn't recognize my mac
[16:03] <Taev> you're telling me that I can't assign which programs running on MY server, get the most bandwith?
[16:03] <abhi_nav> sudharsh: hmm What I am trying to do is I am going to upgrade to 9.10 tomorrow. So want to know if your hardware is same as that of mine or what?
[16:03] <l34k> i've gone through vmware's settitngs
[16:03] <l34k> settings*
[16:03] <wols_> !tell l34k about errors
[16:03] <Taev> on MY connection
[16:03] <abhi_nav> sudharsh: hmmm
[16:04] <Roasted> Can WICD co-exist with settings I have in my network interface file?
[16:04] <THZone> bah :(
[16:04] <THZone> I'm ignored now
[16:04] <sudharsh> abhi_nav, am gonna say 'fsck it' and go with the beta
[16:04] <wols_> Taev: you are free to use any compiler you want to use. I suggest you use gcc to write your own OS
[16:04] <LinuxGuy2009> I just installed the newest NVIDIA driver from the official website and things are smooth as silk compared to the last driver I had. I have a 9800 GTX+ and also a 8300 onboard. I want to try the hybrid SLI out but I wonder if it matters which device I plug my monitor into in Linux for SLI. Does it matter?
[16:04] <Traveler7> i need the channel for the netbook ubuntu
[16:04] <asphael> but i keep geting an error on the client arp timeout acn any one help me ?
[16:04] <abhi_nav> sudharsh: beta? 10.04?
[16:04] <abhi_nav> THZone: what happends?
[16:04] <sudharsh> abhi_nav, yep
[16:04] <Taev> obviously Im not asking my question correctly
[16:04] <Traveler7> !netbook
[16:05] <l34k> wols_: the problem i have right now is that http://pastebin.ca/1849325 happens even though i already do have it
[16:05] <THZone> I am trying to turn a wireless network card in my server machine into an AP, and bind it to eth2 so i can use the DHCP and load balancing features of my eBox firewall.
[16:05] <chili555> Roasted: in my experience, Wicd will step aside (not work) if you have settings in interfaces. I think wicd wants one or the other, not both
[16:05] <Taev> On my server, is there a way to assign my connection's bandwith to certain programs, e.g. my eggdrop program gets more bandwith from my connection
[16:05] <Taev> like through QOS
[16:05] <THZone> http://imagebin.ca/view/irQ3a1D.html is an image of my network map (I'm good at mspaint!)
[16:06] <abhi_nav> sudharsh: hmmm
[16:06] <wols_> l34k: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[16:06] <l34k> wols_
[16:06] <Taev> there has to be a way, Web hosting services do it all the time, assign bandwith to higher paying accounts
[16:06] <Traveler7> neetbook
[16:06] <wols_> l34k: note the missing hypen
[16:06] <wols_> *hyphen
[16:07] <Taev> all i want is for 1 program to have more bandwith priority than say my apache server
[16:07] <wols_> Taev: they don't.
[16:07] <sanju_74> anyone have ideas on how to install IE for 9.10 64 bit
[16:07] <wols_> Taev: I told you. they LOWER the priority of others. think what then happens with the one that is not lowered. just think...
[16:07] <wols_> sanju_74: unpossible. WINE is 32bit only
[16:07] <l34k> thank you wols_
[16:07] <Taev> fine how do I lower the other programs priority
[16:07] <jatt> ie?
[16:07] <jatt> rotfl
[16:08] <sipior> wols_: unpossible? that's a perfectly cromulent word.
[16:08] <wols_> Taev: I answered you at the beginning where to look. scroll back
[16:08] <Ose> can anyone tell me why the instructions for the desktop icon on http://www.flock.com/faq/show/30#q_9069 don't seem to work? I can run Flock alright, but only from the folder/terminal
[16:08] <sanju_74> how about running firefox 32 bit for 9.10 64 bit
[16:09] <StopSign> im on a gateway fx p-7805u, with 9.10 64-bit running wine & vbox with windows 7, and have no problems,i ahve tryed all top 10 distros from distro watch...9.10 was the only one to install all my hardware properly. its just funny from pc to pc the problems ppl have.
[16:09] <THZone> Can anyone at all help me?
[16:09] <wols_> sanju_74: schroot or such, works fine, like any other 32bit software
[16:09] <abhi_nav> sanju_74 I just come to know that we can use 32 bit aps on 64 bit ubuntu
[16:09] <marijuana> guys, how to check md5sum in ubuntu cd?
[16:10] <abhi_nav> sanju_74 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[16:10] <wols_> sanju_74: btw, I meant IE 64bit on any ubuntu. running IE on a 64bit ubuntu works just fine (as fine as IE runs under wine...). Install WINE and run IE
[16:10] <marijuana> i found md5sum.txt
[16:10] <Roasted> chili555, my question comes from a unique situation, I suppose. I'm on my work laptop, and I want my wired interface to have a static IP and my wireless to be handled with DHCP or wahtever. With network manager, since it kind of.... sucks.... I had to use static IP's in the network interface file for the static IP to work since NM couldn't handle it properly. I'm just curious if using WICD I'll have any issues.
[16:10] <sanju_74> thx wols_
[16:11] <PlaHPoy> quick q, i have a process that seems to run forever then spawn more children all at 100% CPU  from a user called contact.  command is "spamd child"  could this be an exploit or something?
[16:11] <chili555> Roasted: wicd will simply not work, in my experience. if interfaces is working as expected why do you need wicd at all?
[16:11] <wols_> StopSign: read up what "anecdotal evidence" is
[16:11] <guntbert> !md5sum | marijuana
[16:12] <wols_> PlaHPoy: do you have a mailserver? are you running spamassassin?
[16:12] <PlaHPoy> yes
[16:12] <wols_> congrats. you found out why spamassassin is such shitty software
[16:12] <PlaHPoy> but its never had this issue
[16:12] <guntbert> marijuana: in the terminal type md5sum <file> -- and wait till its finished
[16:12] <PlaHPoy> what about user contact. ?
[16:13] <wols_> you should know how you installed spamassassin and how you run it. not me
[16:13] <guntbert> !language | wols_
[16:13] <THZone> kk, I'll paypal $10 to whoever helps me get this fixed.
[16:13] <marijuana> guntbert: thanks
[16:13] <Kudzu> Im trying to use aptitude to install postres, and im having some difficulties
[16:13] <wols_> guntbert: let's just say it's not the first time someone kicks or bans me. and it won't be the last
[16:13] <Traveler7> does anyone has to say smt about ubuntu on atom cpu?
[16:13] <guntbert> marijuana: :)
[16:13] <wols_> Kudzu: error messages or it didn't happen
[16:14] <gabriele> CIAO!
[16:14] <Pici> !it | gabriele
[16:14] <Roasted> chili555, you still here? sorry got disconnected.
[16:14] <Kudzu> well not errors, but I dont think its working. I found postgres in not installed, and used g and + and now it says piA
[16:14] <Kudzu> but I dont understand how its purged and installed
[16:14] <chili555> Roasted: at your service
[16:14] <guntbert> wols_: no threats from me :-)
[16:14] <Roasted> chili555, I see what you mean now. I'll be set up on a static interface and when I select to connect to wireless, it drops the static and activates the wifi.
[16:14] <wols_> Traveler7: ask a specific question. polls get unwiedlie with almost 1000 users in a channel
[16:14] <Roasted> chili555, as if it cannot handle running both at the same time.
[16:14] <Kudzu> and typiong "post" as a "search" from the shell doesnt find anything for postgres
[16:14] <thanius> Hi there, I want to downgrade my kernel to the lastest one found in Hardy. How can I do this in Karmic?
[16:14] <wols_> *unwieldly
[16:15] <wols_> thanius: just install the kernel you want. and pray it works (it might not if you are unlucky)
[16:15] <marijuana> guntbert: i type like this : unitedpotsmokers@devilcomHP:~/Desktop/sabily$ md5sum md5sum.txt
[16:15] <wols_> thanius: and you shouldn't need to do it either
[16:15] <thanius> wols_: Should need to?
[16:15] <marijuana> and the output is like this : 1e7826afe039c68b9d039bb7bf06d5bf  md5sum.txt
[16:15] <thanius> wols_: I want to downgrade using apt
[16:15] <marijuana> das all
[16:15] <wols_> thanius: and I want a pony
[16:16] <chili555> Roasted: i would simply do   sudo ifup wlan0  if you know you want wireless and   suo ifup eth0 if you know you want ethernet and, if interfaces is set correctly, you'll be all good
[16:16] <lorenz__> hi guys, I have a problem with the new ubuntu beta - am I wrong or right here?
[16:16] <wols_> marijuana: the ISO file you downloaded. not the md5sum.txt file...
[16:16] <chili555> *sudo
[16:16] <thanius> Ok, let me rephrase my question
[16:16] <guntbert> marijuana: no - md5sum.txt contains only the checksum
[16:16] <Roasted> chili555, does the standard network manager allow wireless and wired interfaces to be operating at the same time?
[16:16] <wols_> lorenz__: #ubuntu+1
[16:16] <lorenz__> wols_: thx
[16:16] <guntbert> marijuana: or use md5sum -c md5sum.txt
[16:16] <chili555> Roasted: no, and why would you? one for internet and one for LAN?
[16:16] <wols_> Roasted: of course it does. you can have as many network interfaces as you want
[16:17] <Roasted> chili555, I never tried with NM.. I alwyas had my interface file set with static for my wired LAN and left the wireless up to NM. So I dont know if NM can handle it or not since I used separate devices (NM vs interface file) to handle each task.
[16:17] <chris__> browser will not work
[16:17] <marijuana> ok
[16:17] <Roasted> wols_, but can you have wired AND wireless both actively connected through NM is what I'm curious about.
[16:17] <Roasted> chili555, I do imaging from my laptop from the wired LAN, so I need a static IP. Meanwhile, it's nice to be on DHCP with wireless to get on email and remotely maintain servers and whatnot.
[16:17] <thanius> Since I've got the nasty PCI-Express-bug that no one seems to get around and fix, I need to downgrade to a more stable kernel since I get random freezes. My setup haven't worked since Intrepid
[16:17] <chili555> Roasted: not according to the documents
[16:18] <thanius> How do I downgrade to a kernel found in Hardy, under Karmic?
[16:18] <chili555> Roasted: NM is not your friend, but interfaces can do it
[16:18] <Roasted> chili555, come to think of it, I think I remember plugging in a USB wifi adapter in my desktop which has NM and both worked fine... so I would say NM does handl eboth interfaces actively at the same time.
[16:18] <Roasted> chili555, I wonder why WICD cant handle it???
[16:18] <guntbert> !work | chris__
[16:18] <jatt> my laptop includes a fingerprint reader, does exist a driver for it in ubuntu?
[16:19] <marijuana> guntbert: it say all OK
[16:19] <Kudzu> so what does piA mean really in aptitude?
[16:19] <guntbert> marijuana: then you are fine
[16:19] <Kudzu> jatt: I suppose it would depend on the hardware for the fingerprint reader, there are a lot of different vendors
[16:19] <chili555> Roasted: i dunno, but i have tried several times and with a populated interfaces file, it just tries and fails to connect
[16:19] <marijuana> ./casper/filesystem.squashfs: OK
[16:19] <marijuana> ./casper/vmlinuz: OK
[16:19] <marijuana> ./casper/README.diskdefines: OK
[16:19] <marijuana> g./casper/initrd.gz: OK
[16:19] <FloodBot4> marijuana: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:19] <chris__> chromium  will not start and Packagemanager is broken
[16:19] <marijuana> guntbert: ok... thanks alot
[16:20] <chili555> Roasted: if i comment out all of interfaces except lo, of course, it connects quickly
[16:20] <Roasted> chili555, I'm not even using the interface file anymore. I restored my original interface file and set up a wired static interface within WICD as well as my wireless. Whenever you select "connect", it drops ALL interfaces, then activates the one you just connected.
[16:20] <THZone> I'll pay $20 to anyone that fixes my problem :P
[16:20] <Roasted> chili555, so more or less, it appears even with trying to use WICD to actively use two interfaces at once (LAN and wifi) it still does the same thing. Drops all, activates ONE. Whether its wired or wifi, it does the same thing no matter which one I try.
[16:21] <Roasted> gonna try somethin here... I'll probably get disconnected...
[16:21] <asphael> but i keep geting an error on the client arp timeout acn any one help me ?
[16:21] <chili555> Roasted: indeed. i dont think wicd or NM is written for wireless _and_ LAN simultaneous use
[16:22] <Kajeci> I've got two patches to add libowfat and gatling (both from www.fefe.de). I was wondering why they aren't already packaged.
[16:23] <asphael> any one know what the arp timeout error means ?
[16:23] <jkd4> what does "(Gecko)" mean?
[16:23] <ndlovu> is it a truly bad idea to upgrade a particular package to a more recent version which has the necessary functionality (gdal in my case)? I'm still using hardy (8.04) and don't want to upgrade before 10.04 comes out.
[16:23] <wols_> jkd4: depends on context
[16:23] <Roasted> chili555, yeah, maybe you're right. I can't imagine that it's a smart idea to run wifi and LAN at the same time. But dangit, I was gonna try :P
[16:23] <wols_> ndlovu: more than just normally bad
[16:23] <Roasted> chili555, come to think of it I even have trouble with that in Windows. I can connect to wired and wireless at the same time but it seems to lug the connection along even more, as if it's confused over hwich to default to.
[16:23] <wols_> Roasted: why shouldn't it be a smart idea?
[16:24] <jkd4> wols_: with the Epiphany Web Browser, there is a normal web browser and a "(Geckio)" web browser
[16:24] <gdodge77> hello, i'm wondering if anyone can help me with automating some the generation of some spreadsheets
[16:24] <Roasted> wols_, I don't know? I guess "one or the other" makes sense to me.
[16:24] <jkd4> Gecko*
[16:24] <wols_> Roasted: there is no confusion. there is one default gateway no matter what and that's it
[16:24] <maciator> how can i connect my ubuntu with a windows PC via LAN
[16:24] <Roasted> wols_, well, I don't know then.
[16:24] <Kudzu> after selecting + in aptitude, when does the pkg actually get installed?
[16:24] <chili555> Roasted: i think you may be able to do it with a carefully crafted interfaces file
[16:24] <wols_> maciator: do you have a router or a switch?
[16:24] <Roasted> wols_, I just know NM has dropped me about 4 times today and WICD has yet to give me issues. I think I'll stick with it.
[16:25] <abhi_nav> !samba | maciator
[16:25] <Roasted> It's a wonder why it's not defaulted in Ubuntu. I have a ton of trouble with NM with a broad range of machines.
[16:25] <maciator> wols_ nope just cable
[16:25] <chili555> Roasted: +1000
[16:25] <wols_> maciator: what do you want to do so you connect them both?
[16:25] <Roasted> pretty much the only systems I don't have a lot of trouble with are desktops.
[16:25] <guntbert> gdodge77: maybe try #openoffice.org
[16:25] <gdodge77> kk
[16:25] <wols_> maciator: ie why connecting them?
[16:25] <jkd4> what is the difference between the normal Epiphany  web browser and a the Epiphany "(Gecko)" web browser?
[16:25] <maciator> wols_ i want to copy my files on to the ubuntu from windows
[16:25] <wols_> jkd4: one uses webkit and the other gecko as rendering engine iirc
[16:25] <Roasted> chili555, well I'm gonna get disconnected here when I activate my wired static connection to image this laptop. :( but hey, thanks a bunch man. take care.
[16:26] <jkd4> wols_: what does that mean?
[16:26] <chili555> Roasted: glad to help. have fun!
[16:26] <wols_> maciator: do you have a working network connection between them? can you ping each other?
[16:26] <wols_> jkd4: one is based on firefox and the other on webkit
[16:26] <jkd4> what is gecko?
[16:26] <jkd4> !gecko
[16:26] <wols_> gecko is a rendering engine
[16:27] <maciator> wols_ yes i did that but my windows cant see the ubuntu
[16:27] <jkd4> ok. what is webkit?
[16:27] <abhi_nav> maciator: windows wll now show you linux partitions
[16:27] <maciator> abhi_nav nope
[16:27] <wols_> jkd4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecko_%28layout_engine%29
[16:27] <teknofonix> my app windows no longer have min/max close buttons and I can't switch between windows on the desktop
[16:27] <abhi_nav> maciator: hmm?
[16:27] <teknofonix> i am using ubuntu for netbook
[16:28] <wols_> maciator: can either of them ping the other one?
[16:28] <jkd4> ok. what is webkit?
[16:28] <maco> teknofonix: that means your window manager isnt running or crashed. i dont know what the netbook's wm is though
[16:28] <wols_> jkd4: a rendering engine, just like gecko
[16:28] <Loonatic> Hi, is there a way to monitored or log everything that someone does via console ?
[16:28] <teknofonix> what feature turns them back on again?
[16:28] <maciator> abhi_nav wols_ i can see some windows network but i cant acces it
[16:28] <abhi_nav> maciator: hmmm
[16:28] <teknofonix> i have been trying to customize the look of the gnome gui
[16:28] <asphael> exir
[16:28] <asphael> exit
[16:28] <abhi_nav> maciator: tried samba?
[16:28] <wols_> teknofonix: you can either open a terminal and start the windowmanager there or log out of X and back in again
[16:28] <maco> teknofonix: rebooting would probably bring it back
[16:29] <wols_> !tell maciator about errors
[16:29] <MrPiracy> need help to completely remove grub legacy from my karmic install. i was messing with it, reinstalled grub2, but my extended linux partition keeps booting grub 0.97
[16:29] <wols_> maco: ubuntu is not windows
[16:29] <wols_> MrPiracy: you cannot uninstall grub. you can only overwrite it
[16:29] <mezquitale> MrPiracy, what OS do you want to use?
[16:30] <MrPiracy> mezquitale: triple boot: win7, macos, karmic
[16:30] <maco> wols_: so?
[16:30] <MrPiracy> wolf: i did overwrite it, but it seems to come back when i run synaptics or update
[16:30] <mezquitale> MrPiracy, are you able to boot up into any of those OS's???
[16:30] <maco> wols_: doesnt change that rebooting resets your system state
[16:30] <wols_> maco: the only time one reboots is when hardware is faulty and changed or a new kernel is installed
[16:31] <maciator> wols_ hmm baybe its this stupid EDUbuntu
[16:31] <Loonatic> Hi,  anyone knows a way to monitored or log everything that someone does via console/shell access ?
[16:31] <wols_> MrPiracy: dpkg -l grub*
[16:31] <maco> wols_: not necessarily. rebooting can be easier than figuring out which module to "modprobe -r" and then re "modprobe"
[16:31] <azetbv-ro> Hello
[16:31] <teknofonix> windows manager - ok i will try and locate that, is it called that or is that a generic name for what it does?
[16:31] <maco> wols_: i used to do that all the time when sky2 was crappier
[16:31] <ocs> hi, where can I find the official guide for setting a http svn server on 9.10 ?
[16:32] <MrPiracy> wols_, mezquitale: i want to keep grub2 on an extended partiotion bypassing that message about blacklist being not reliable
[16:32] <wols_> teknofonix: generic name
[16:32] <gizmobay> Does the 31-20.58 headers go with the 31-20.33 kernel?
[16:32] <jellow> On my server I have a huge amoutn of ips listenign on port 6929 , How can i see whats going on ?
[16:32] <wols_> gizmobay: obviously not
[16:32] <maco> wols_: well, until i figured out that sky2 was the module i needed to unload & reload. took about 6mo to figure that out
[16:33] <gizmobay> didn't think so
[16:33] <wols_> jellow: see what exactly?
[16:33] <wols_> maco: please stop highlighting me. thank you
[16:33] <gizmobay> I don't have the matching kernel and headers
[16:33] <wols_> gizmobay: then install a matching couple?
[16:34] <MrPiracy> wols_: it gave me a list of grubs :(
[16:34] <wols_> it hopefully did
[16:34] <mezquitale> MrPiracy, grub2 is not an application or like an operating system,  all grub2 does is boots up your operating system, you should be able to boot up to any OS with grub, what I need to know if i you dont want to use linux or if youre having a problem booting up to an OS
[16:34] <wols_> otherwise your ubuntu were broken
[16:34] <chili555> gizmobay: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[16:34] <gizmobay> oops my bad
[16:34] <Loonatic> Anyone ?
[16:34] <gizmobay> I have the 20.58 kernel
[16:35] <THZone> $25 to whoever fixes my problem
[16:35] <MrPiracy> mezquitale: i was having problems booting macos, i managed to have grub2 booting it properly, but i didnt find a way to pass parameters to it ... as in instruct mac to boot 32bit, or bebuild cache, etc, etc
[16:36] <wols_> THZone: you will have a long wait before you
[16:36] <jellow> wols_: I have blocked the port but here is a netstat http://pastebin.com/pdTr3fgg
[16:36] <MrPiracy> mezquitale: then i have decided to keep chamaleon, which works perfectly, but it boots karmic once and the next time it gives me grub prompt saying version 0.97 at the top
[16:36] <ndlovu> which is the least bad option - installing a package from source, forcing the install of a more recent version with apt-get, or downloading and installing the newer version as a .deb?
[16:36] <wols_> especially when you add another $5 every quarter hour. I think I wait a week, then it will be worth my while :)
[16:36] <ndlovu> sorry, that's if a more recent version is needed
[16:36] <hal> I am considering disabling pulseaudio in favour of using alsa exclusively.  Does anyone this this is a good/bad idea?
[16:36] <lalalol> hey, what is the command to uninstall a language?
[16:36] <wols_> jellow: so what listens on that port?
[16:36] <teknofonix> wols_ thanks - i am just playing with 'ubuntu software centre', all i really wanted to do was ditch the horrible launcher desktop.  I would be lost in terminal.
[16:37] <jellow> wols_: O never mind , its P2P
[16:37] <oal> I have an Eee, is there a good and easy to use tool to adjust screen brightness?
[16:37] <wols_> hal: probably bad since all ubuntu programs are configured for pulseaudio
[16:38] <hal> thank you wols_
[16:38] <mezquitale> MrPiracy, you need to be clear on what you want to do --- I assume chameleon is a MAC OS?  Are you able to boot up into it without any problems now?  It seems you are now having a problem booting up into karmic?
[16:38] <rysiek|pl> guys, does *anybody* here use an intel 845 card with karmic? anybody?
[16:38] <hal> anyone else got any views about it?
[16:38] <kostkon> hal, yes. bad idea.
[16:38] <konraddo> hi, how to run firefox without restoring last session? :s
[16:39] <mezquitale> oal, isnt there a key in your laptop that allows you to do that?  You press FN then up or low arrow on my laptop
[16:40] <MrPiracy> mezquitale: chamaleon is mac OS bootloader, it works, it finds karmic extended partition and boots it.
[16:40] <hal> konraddo: do you have this installed?  http://sessionmanager.mozdev.org/
[16:40] <wols_> oal: sudo setpci -s 00:02.1 f4.b=ff
[16:40] <MrPiracy> mezquitale: the problem now is: once i boot into karmic, it will update the boot record on my /dev/sda5 with grub legacy (version 0.97) which has problems to boot ext4 partitions
[16:40] <bodago>  /quit
[16:41] <MrPiracy> mezquitale: then the boot stops at grub> prompt
[16:41] <wols_> MrPiracy: just booting into any OS won't make grub do anything. ever
[16:41] <wols_> especially not updating anything
[16:41] <hal> konraddo: anyway, install it, as it has an option about whether to ask or not at startup
[16:41] <hal> thank you kostkon
[16:42] <MrPiracy> wols_: but there are remains of grub legacy here, why does it install itself? one boot goes to grub 1.97, the next will go to grub 0.97 ????
[16:42] <konraddo> ok, thanks, but anyway i tried to start firefox again, and i had a choice - restore a session or not :D
[16:42] <hal> skype won't work with pulseaudio unfortunately.  How did you overcome this abhi_nav ?
[16:42] <wols_> it does not install itself
[16:42] <abhi_nav> hal: which version of ubuntu and skype?
[16:42] <wols_> I asked you something to do before. still haven't seen the results
[16:42] <hal> abhi_nav: 9.10 with latest skype
[16:42] <oal> mezquitale: Just noticed.Thanks :)
[16:42] <lalalol> whats the command to remove a language or even all of them?
[16:43] <MrPiracy> wols_: the dpkg -l grub* ???
[16:43] <mezquitale> MrPiracy, so the problem is with chameleon OS boot loaded, if you were using grub2 you wouldnt have a problem or I could help you figure out what's going on.  All grub2 does is boot up your OS, grub gives you a menu with choice, you pick your choice, your OS boots, you do what you want to do.  Since youre not using grub2 youre going to ask for someone to help you with chameleon os boot loader
[16:43] <kostkon> hal, the latest skype works just fine with pulseaudio
[16:43] <Shambat> how can I make it so that when a client asks for a certain domain name, a given IP address is returned? do I hve to edit the /etc/hosts file?
[16:43] <abhi_nav> hal: check and tell me the correct skype version
[16:43] <wols_> Shambat: that's the easiest way to do it yes
[16:43] <blocky> how can I make awk append a newline to its output?
[16:43] <Shambat> wols_: what is the safest way to add things to the hosts file?
[16:44] <MrPiracy> mezquitale: that's the thing, if grub2 would sit on an extended partition everything would be fine
[16:44] <rilax> hello, can someone help to configure my 2 monitors in order to play urban terror ?
[16:44] <hal> abhi_nav: 2.1.0.81
[16:44] <MrPiracy> wols_, mezquitale: i think the problem is when i run synaptics or update ... it will recover /dev/sda5 boot record
[16:44] <abhi_nav> hal: ammmmm !!!! It works here fine. You checked all the settings? or try alsa etc?
[16:44] <blocky> I'm piping find output into awk, and it's stripping the newlines
[16:44] <wols_> no, it will not MrPiracy
[16:45] <MrPiracy> wols_, mezquitale: that's why i want to manually remove grub legacy completely
[16:45] <kostkon> hal, what is your problem exactly?
[16:45] <mikebeecham> does anyone know how I can position the time and date in the panel, next to each other instead of on top of each other?
[16:45] <wols_> the only thing that will play around with your bootloader is installing a new kernel (and even that is configurable). nothing else, except grub-install or installing another grub version will
[16:46] <hal> abhi_nav: but how can I try alsa ?  skype only gives me the option to use pulseaudio
[16:46] <MrPiracy> wols_: ok, if that info is correct, i will restore grub2 into /dev/sda5 and boot twice ... let's see what happens
[16:46] <THZone> Christ
[16:46] <hal> kostkon: when I test sound, under settings, I cannot hear anything
[16:46] <hal> kostkon: audio is working for other apps
[16:46] <ianwizard> Is there a way to daemonize evolution, so it gets my mail automatically  and notifies me as if it were minimized?
[16:46]  * wols_ wonders if that falls under "language" thing...
[16:46] <sipior> THZone: yes?
[16:47] <wols_> if not, you will hear a lot more "Allah akhbar" from me in the future
[16:47] <maco> ianwizard: best i can think is alltray, a program that lets you put anything in the notification area
[16:47] <THZone> How is this so fxcking difficult? if Linux is so "superior" to windows, then how is it that I can have my wireless network card running as an access point, and "Internet Connection Sharing" to the WAN side of my network in TEN MINUTES, but I can't after TWO HOURS get it working in linux?
[16:47] <kostkon> hal, ok. try installing the PulseAudio Device CHooser utility
[16:47] <MrPiracy> wols_: lol
[16:47] <maco> !language | THZone
[16:47] <sipior> THZone: run windows then. no use getting worked up about it.
[16:47] <abhi_nav> hal: make sure to UNCHECK "Allow skype to automatically adjust my mixer levels."
[16:47] <ianwizard> will someone kick him?
[16:48] <lalalol> whats the command to uninstall a language?
[16:48] <wols_> ianwizard: I beg your pardon?
[16:48] <rilax> hello, can someone help me to configure my 2 monitors in order to play urban terror ?
[16:48] <mistya> hi there
[16:48] <wols_> rilax: what video driver?
[16:48] <mezquitale> MrPiracy, it seems you need help figuring out what grub2 is and what it does.  Grub2 is just a boot loader - all it does is boot up an OS.  You can install it to an extended partition but I find it works if you install if in the MBR.  We used to install it on an extended partition or any other partition except the MBR because other OS's would not boot up or wanted to use the MBR exclusively, nowadays is not the case.  You install gru
[16:48] <mezquitale> b2 in the Master boor record(MBR) and grub2 configures itself so that it is able to boot up your OS's
[16:49] <rilax> wols_, ati
[16:49] <wols_> rilax: the driver ati or the company?
[16:49] <wols_> ianwizard: please stop messaging people unasked. thank you
[16:49] <rilax> wols_, the drivers ati i guess
[16:49] <wols_> rilax: don't "guess"
[16:50] <rilax> wols_, i'm sorry i'm a beginner on ubuntu, and i am french so i don't always understand
[16:50] <blocky> can someone explain the operation of the pipe operation in bash, does it execute on a line by line basis?
[16:50] <Zenker> hello everyone i was surfing around today and i found this site     http://dev.compiz.org/~cyberorg/2009/04/01/finally-windows-users-can-get-compiz-easily/     i think some people need to re-examine what ubuntu is all about, we need to embrace windows and share some of these cool things to help to get the word out that windows is GOINGDOWN i only accidently found out about ubuntu, i never even heard the name untill i ffound this ro
[16:50] <Zenker> om one night when i was wondering if my xchat was not wrokin, so i went to the room with the most users,
[16:50] <dcider> running karmic, remote desktop viewer starts up then closes down before a window opens...any ideas on what i should be looking for?
[16:50] <blocky> can I pipe directly into sort?
[16:51] <Sioux-33> hi everyone
[16:51] <MrPiracy> wols_: restored grub2 from live cd, booted into chamaleon, linux partition is on chamaleon menu, bingo: boots grub 1.97, karmic loads up, now i restart the computer, chamaleon comes up again, linux is there ... and BINGO: it's grub 0.97
[16:51] <rilax> wols_, but my drivers are ati, i can affirm it
[16:51] <mistya> i have 2 ntfs hd on my computer. Why the transfer from one to another one is so slowly?
[16:51] <sipior> blocky: yep. that's fairly common, in fact.
[16:51] <MrPiracy> wols_, mezquitale: please read my log file ... this is exactly what just happened!
[16:52] <mezquitale> MrPiracy, sorry I have to go but hopefully I pointed you at the right direction
[16:52] <rysiek|pl> anybody here uses intel gma965 OR 845 with karmic?
[16:52] <jkd4> if you use a "normal" user account instead of a root account, what would you have to do when root access is required?
[16:52] <rysiek|pl> jkd4: use sudo/gksudo
[16:53] <guntbert> !ot | Zenker
[16:53] <jkd4> rysiek|pl: but you already have to do that
[16:53] <rysiek|pl> jkd4: ?
[16:53] <guntbert> !sudo | jkd4
[16:54] <Zenker> guntbert that is a ubuntu support question, its towards the total support of the entire os, not just a specific issue with it
[16:54] <lalalol> whats the command to uninstall a language?
[16:54] <rilax> ok i'll come back later, have to do some non geek stuffs :'(
[16:54] <guntbert> jkd4: follow *all* links from ubottu
[16:54] <jkd4> how often should one change their sudo password?
[16:54] <schnitzel> jkd4, as often as you feel like it
[16:55] <guntbert> jkd4: its the password of your user
[16:55] <Souler> Hello, is there a messenger for linux that WORKS with webcams and MSN????
[16:55] <lalalol> Souler, aMSN, emesene
[16:55] <MrPiracy> wols_: please, i just want to remove everything about grub legacy from my partition
[16:55] <Souler> aMSN dropped it
[16:55] <Souler> No longer supports it
[16:55] <lalalol> emesene then?
[16:55] <MrPiracy> lalalol: yes, emesene ... it sucks, but works
[16:56] <lalalol> just trying to help
[16:56] <Souler> What about sound?
[16:57] <Souler> As in conversations
[16:58] <Souler> hmm
[16:58] <FFForever> anyone notice xorg flickers for a second every now and then on the lower half of the screen
[16:59] <abhi_nav> FFForever: 9.10?
[16:59] <FFForever> sorry wrong channel :)
[16:59] <FFForever> thought I was in +1
[17:02] <hal> kostkon: ok, I have installed the applet.  Would you mind explaining how to use it to fix my skype problem, please?
[17:02] <MaxFrames> hello
[17:02] <schnitzel> hello
[17:02] <xbunty> hi
[17:02] <MaxFrames> I can't browse Windows Networking from eeebuntu (unable to connect to server when I double click on the workgroup icon), but I can connect to a given computer via its IP address; can you help?
[17:03] <MaxFrames> it's like smb is not working properly
[17:03] <lalalol> whats the command to uninstall a language?
[17:03] <kostkon> hal, run skype. left click on the applet and select open volume control. you should see skype's stream in the applications tab. try (re)selecting the input and output device for it.
[17:03] <alabd> !gcj
[17:04] <epaphus> Does ubuntu come with systat ?? to run in command line.. i dont see in the repos..??
[17:04] <Loonatic> Hi,  anyone knows a way to monitored or log everything that someone does via console/shell access ?
[17:04] <hal> kostkon: connection failed / connection refused when I click volume control
[17:04] <wols_> epaphus: what is "systat" supposed to be?
[17:04] <kostkon> hal, hmm, this means that pulseaudio is not running, for some reason
[17:05] <adityag> i installed ubuntu 9.10 on my new laptop, but there is no sound... i cant play anything, i installed a few packages, i can see a movie, but the sound does not play
[17:05] <Cyclist2> Hello, there! I need help passing arguments to the gnome-terminal program from inside a script; at the moment I have not yet been able to make it do anything useful; I should like a simple example with the comand 'cp', please? it seems that it all starts with >gnome-terminal --tab-with-profile="Default" -e<
[17:05] <Losha> epaphus: do you mean sysstat?
[17:05] <epaphus> wolf, sysstat i mean.. the
[17:05] <epaphus> yeah
[17:05] <epaphus> where is it?
[17:05] <maco> Cyclist2: i think after the "-e" you just put the command you want in quotes
[17:05] <abhi_nav> !gstreamer | adityag
[17:05] <abhi_nav> ohhh :-(
[17:05] <Losha> epaphus: apt-cache search sysstat
[17:06] <Losha>  
[17:06] <KimK> Does anyone know how to find out from where "Weather Report" (Ubuntu 9.10, top taskbar, right-click, "Add To Panel"...) pulls its weather information for various cities?  A file search of my system for "weather" did not find any setup files that have this kind of information.  Any ideas?
[17:06] <slackster> hji, how can I set output of uptime command to display am/pm and not 24hr time?
[17:06] <wols_> KimK: netstat
[17:07] <adityag> abhi_nav i have already installed gstreamer
[17:07] <epaphus> Losha, right.. its there.. but how do I install it?  sysstat - system performance tools for Linux  .. apt-get install sysstat doesnt find it
[17:07] <lalalol> whats the command to uninstall a language?
[17:07] <abhi_nav> adityag: hmmmm
[17:08] <adityag> i installed ubuntu 9.10 on my new laptop, but there is no sound... i cant play anything, i installed a few packages, i can see a movie, but the sound does not play
[17:08] <adityag> i installed ubuntu 9.10 on my new laptop, but there is no sound... i cant play anything, i installed a few packages, i can see a movie, but the sound does not play
[17:08] <FloodBot4> adityag: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:08] <adityag> by mistake
[17:08] <souler> guise how do I keep my webcam flipped permenatly?
[17:08] <lalalol> cmon!!!
[17:08] <guntbert> epaphus: sudo apt-get install sysstat
[17:09] <abhi_nav> !sound | adityag
[17:09] <abhi_nav> ya! it works
[17:09] <souler> Anyone know how to keep my webcam flipped vertically and keep it that way permenatly????????
[17:09] <Cyclist2> maco: I tried that and a few variations but without success
[17:10] <lalalol> am i on the ignore list or so?
[17:10] <sipior> souler: tape it upside-down?
[17:10] <souler> I feel the same
[17:10] <wols_>  !patience
[17:10] <souler> sipior, common sense dude. If I could do that, I wouldn't ask here. I'm using a laptop.
[17:10] <jkd4> how do you find out if your "home directory is owned by root"?
[17:10] <guntbert> !attitude | souler
[17:10] <wols_> jkd4:  ls -l /home/
[17:11] <sipior> souler: i was joking.
[17:11] <MrPiracy> wols_: u still there?
[17:11] <Mathuin> jkd4: ls -d ~
[17:11] <souler> sipior I didn't come here for jokes. I need help, not random bullcrap.
[17:12] <slackster> how can I change uptime command output time to 12hour?
[17:12] <sipior> souler: doesn't look like you're getting either.
[17:12] <GSF1200S> does anyone know how to tell whne rsync last ran
[17:12] <guntbert> souler: please tone down - no need to be not polite
[17:12] <GSF1200S> when*
[17:12] <jkd4> wols_: what does the output after that command mean?
[17:12] <wols_> jkd4: it's simply what "dir" is under DOS
[17:13] <guntbert> sipior: please don't make such jokes here :-)
[17:13] <sipior> guntbert: no promises.
[17:13] <Mathuin> I have a device which uses a Silicon Labs CP2102 device for its USB-serial conversion.  The driver loads and I am able to open the device, but when I do, RTS and DTR are asserted by default.  Is there anything I can do (up to and including rebuilding the driver) to change this behavior?
[17:13] <wols_> GSF1200S: if you are lucky it wrote something to the logs. grep /var/log for it
[17:13] <Flare183> wols_: O.O DOS; so ancient
[17:13] <jkd4> wols_: what does the response I get mean? :/
[17:13] <Losha> slackster: I don't think you can. I don't see any options in 'man uptime', sorry...
[17:14] <jkd4> hello
[17:14] <GSF1200S> wols_: yeah nothing there.. I guess ill >> to a text file in home or something
[17:14] <Mathuin> jdk4:  the man page for "ls" explains the output when using the "-l" option.  The owner of the file or directory is the third field.
[17:14] <jose__> hi everybody, i need help for patching a prog, where should i ask?
[17:15] <Mathuin> jdk4: for instance, mine says "drwxr-xr-x 58 jmt  jmt 4096 2010-03-22 10:06 jmt".  So the owner of my home directory is "jmt", and the group that owns the directory is also named "jmt".
[17:15] <grifo74> good afternon, i wold like now who is best ubuntu 32bits or 64bits i have a machine with a 64bits processor but a use ubuntu 32bits?
[17:15] <wols_> grifo74: how much RAM do you have?
[17:15] <jkd4> hello
[17:15] <Cyclist2> maco: the following line does work >gnome-terminal --tab-with-profile="Default" -e 'bash -c "echo hi;read"' --tab-with-profile="Default" -e 'bash -c "echo hello;read"'< but I am trying to pass the value of variables to that comand inside a 'for' loop; in this case I get nothing or the variables' names are printed instead of its contents
[17:16] <grifo74> 3gb
[17:16] <wols_> grifo74: use 32bit
[17:16] <grifo74> ok thanks
[17:16] <jkd4> wols_: what does the response I get mean? :/
[17:16] <Flare183> wols_: wha no, I use 64 and its fine
[17:16] <maco> Cyclist2: you're starting a separate shell inside that command. of course your variables aren't applying to it.
[17:16] <theone> /quit
[17:17] <wols_> Flare183: what good does it do to you? with 3GB? nothing
[17:17] <lalalol> whats the command to uninstall a language?
[17:17] <Flare183> wols_: Yup with 3GB, and it works find with Ubuntu
[17:17] <Flare183> fine*
[17:17] <Mathuin> jkd4: sorry, addressed this to jdk4 by mistake.  the man page for "ls" explains the output when using the "-l" option.  The opwner of the file or directory is the third field.
[17:18] <MrPiracy> wols_: there must be a way to manually delete all the files of grub legacy .... apt-get doesnt even recognize it as installed anymore
[17:18] <mrman> hi
[17:18] <Mathuin> jkd4: for instance, mine says "drwxr-xr-x 58 jmt  jmt 4096 2010-03-22 10:06 jmt".  So the owner of my home directory is "jmt", and the group that owns the directory is also named "jmt".
[17:18] <sipior> wols_ 64-bit registers are wonderful things. memory addressing isn't the only consideration.
[17:18] <amn> how to delete some partitions entries in places menu ?
[17:18] <wols_> MrPiracy: ls /boot
[17:18] <chello> hi
[17:18] <MrPiracy> wols_: can i delete everything in it?
[17:19] <mrman> hi
[17:19] <StopSign> and dual core cpu's
[17:19] <wols_> MrPiracy: then your ubuntu will really not boot again
[17:19] <Flare183> !hi | mrman
[17:19] <wols_> sipior: 64bit registers are useless in practice. are you an assembler programmer?
[17:19] <MrPiracy> wols_: damn .... why does it roll back to 0.97 then???? there is somethign wrong here
[17:19] <jkd4> thank you Mathuin. what do all those letters mean in drwxr-xr-x ?
[17:19] <sipior> wols_: well, you obviously aren't :-)
[17:19] <wols_> sipior: remember that code gets bigger on 64bit too, negating the registers totally
[17:20] <fumanchu182> I am getting random logouts of my desktop when using firefox, what log can I check in to see how firefox/desktop is behaving and possibly submit a bug report?
[17:20] <wols_> sipior: I learned assembly programming back with MASM 3.0
[17:20] <Flare183> !language | MrPiracy
[17:20] <mrman> ok, i am trying to format a usb disk of mine with gparted but it wont, neither will disk utility on my mac, i think the disk is broke :(, any ideas anyone?
[17:20] <llutz>  jkd4 see http://catcode.com/teachmod/
[17:20] <wols_> !errors | mrman
[17:20] <mrman> ok
[17:21] <mrman> umm...
[17:21] <mrman> ima have to do this later because im not at my ubuntu machine right now
[17:21] <Flare183> !enter | mrman
[17:21] <mrman> im not...
[17:21] <jkd4> thank you Mathuin. what do all those letters mean in drwxr-xr-x ?
[17:21] <sipior> wols_: size is also a consideration, but properly-written code is generally faster on 64-bit machines. there will be exceptions, but that's largely true.
[17:22] <mrman> and disk utility on my mac is giving me the error: POSIX error: could not allocate memory
[17:22] <wols_> and another one for the ignore file. allah akhbar
[17:22] <mrman> could my usb stick be broken beyond repair?
[17:22] <sipior> wols_: you have lovely manners.
[17:23] <mrman> anyone?
[17:23] <wols_> mrman: this is #ubuntu and not #osx. come back when you're at your ubuntu machine again
[17:23] <chipgeri> how to access computer on LAN using ip address ? like in windows \\10.239.56.54\c$
[17:23] <GSF1200S> does anyone know how to make rsync timestamp?
[17:23] <desrt> hi.  is it possible to do a minimal install from a desktop install CD?
[17:23] <mrman> ok
[17:23] <mrman> sorry
[17:23] <mrman> theres a osx channel?
[17:23] <desrt> like: no X
[17:23] <mrman> cool, ima go check it out
[17:23] <llutz> !minimal | desrt not with desktop-cd, but this
[17:23] <lalalol> so... whats the command to uninstall a language?
[17:23] <jkd4> thank you Mathuin. what do all those letters mean in drwxr-xr-x ?
[17:23] <Mathuin> jkd4: the letters in that string are also explained in detail in the man page for "ls".  The first letter describes what kind of file it is (in your case it's a directory) and the next nine letters are the three permission letters for each of the three categories of users.  The permission letters are 'r', 'w', and 'x' for read, write, and execute.  If a - is shown, then that particular user category does not have that permission.  The
[17:23] <Mathuin>  user categories are "owner", "group", and "world."  So your directory gives the owner full read-write-execute permission, but only read and execute permission for group members and the world.
[17:24] <DENGUELOCO> quien habla español
[17:24] <desrt> bah
[17:24] <Pici> !es | desrt
[17:24] <Pici> desrt: arg, sorry.
[17:24] <desrt> i was hoping not to have to download another cd :)
[17:24] <Mathuin> If the owner is in the group, the owner's permissions trump the group's permissions.
[17:24] <wols_> permissions | jkd4
[17:24] <DENGUELOCO> gracias ubuttu
[17:24] <wols_> !permissions | jkd4
[17:24] <Pici> desrt: The minimal CD is less than 10mb.
[17:24] <desrt> Pici: right.  but i'm installing lucid beta.  no cds for that yet.
[17:24] <Mathuin> wols_: the bot is awesome, I just don't know what it knows.
[17:25] <Pici> desrt: If you look in the directory that the minimal cds are in you might find one
[17:25] <desrt> Pici: ahah.  fascinating.
[17:26] <ori1> Please Help! I get this error when trying to install Flash Player! E: lilo: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[17:26] <desrt> it's a version old... but if i'm downloading all the packages anyway, i guess that doesn't matter too much
[17:26] <lalalol> can we type in caps?
[17:26] <desrt> ok.  thanks for the pointer.  cheers.
[17:27] <lat> Where can I find the qt4 package?
[17:27] <chipgeri> how to access computer on LAN using ip address ? like in windows \\10.239.56.54\c$
[17:27] <jkd4> thank you wols and Mathuin
[17:27] <Mathuin> jkd4: glad to help.
[17:28] <lalalol> WHATS THE COMMAND TO UNINSTALL A LANGUAGE?
[17:28] <selig5> chipgeri: use ssh
[17:28] <sipior> lalalol: well, which language?
[17:28] <lalalol> sipior, dutch
[17:29] <lalalol> sipior, or maybe all languages, then everything will be back to US english
[17:29] <sipior> lalalol: why not just set everything to english?
[17:29] <BluesKaj> chipgeri, install smbclient or ssh , //10.239.56.54/c&
[17:29] <sipior> lalalol: you're using gnome, or?
[17:29] <lalalol> sipior, that doesnt work, its all bugged
[17:29] <lalalol> sipior, KDE
[17:30] <sipior> lalalol: bugged how, exactly?
[17:30] <picapiedra> ola
[17:30] <lalalol> sipior, i uninstalled dutch and some apps remained dutch :/
[17:31] <picapiedra> holaaaaaa
[17:31] <scammerr> lol
[17:31] <ubuntujenkins> does anyone know how to change the default user name of the live cd
[17:31] <wols_> !hi | picapiedra
[17:31] <picapiedra> hello
[17:31] <almoxarife> where would I make changes to my soundcard defaults?
[17:32] <wols_> ubuntujenkins: permanently, you probably have to remaster it
[17:32] <ubuntujenkins> wols_: I have been trying in a chroot enviroment with no luck
[17:32] <nasrullah> hi
[17:33] <ubuntujenkins> I chnaged the /etc/casper.conf file which doesn't work
[17:33] <lalalol> sipior, did you fall asleep? xD
[17:33] <sipior> lalalol: i can't help you, sorry.
[17:34] <lalalol> np sipior :/
[17:34] <wols_> lalalol: change your locale
[17:34] <lalalol> wols_, you mean my country/region?
[17:34] <wols_> from DU_du or whatever it is to un_us
[17:34] <wols_> *en_us
[17:35] <lalalol> wols_, i have, im using us english it says, but it doesnt work 100%
[17:35] <wols_> lalalol: env
[17:35] <lalalol> should i change my country/region?
[17:35] <lalalol> whats env?
[17:35] <Sniper777> Hi, my computer is not working "checking system". What i shall debug this problem?
[17:35] <wols_> or rather: env |grep LANG; env|grep LC_ALL
[17:36] <wols_> Sniper777: does your grub boot menu come up?
[17:37] <fxfitz> Hi everyone!
[17:37] <lalalol> wols_, it lists 2 things
[17:39] <sls> how do I install the equiv of vmware tools in qemu/kvm?
[17:40] <Loonatic> Hi,  anyone knows a way to monitor or log everything that someone does via console/shell access ?
[17:41] <lalalol> cmon guys
[17:41] <lalalol> how do i uninstall languages?
[17:41] <lalalol> with the terminal
[17:42] <Loonatic> lalalol: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[17:42] <Sniper777> wols_: computer is hang after boot of this place menu "checking system"
[17:42] <wols_> lalalol: your error is that you think there is such a thing as "languages"
[17:42] <hamzaatova3> how do i add math powers to an openoffice doc?
[17:42] <lalalol> Loonatic, ive tried that
[17:42] <Loonatic> did not work ?
[17:43] <lalalol> it gives me 4 languages
[17:43] <Chousuke> why would you uninstall language packages? are you tight on space?
[17:43] <lalalol> no Chousuke, i want my system to use 1 language, not 2
[17:43] <Chousuke> lalalol: so use just one
[17:43] <Mathuin> I posted a more detailed version of my question to the forums.  In case anyone's curious, it was about a device using a Silicon Labs CP2102 chip for USB->serial functionality and disabling the default assertion of DTR and RTS when open()'ing the device.  If you have an answer or suggestion, please comment on the forum post.  Thanks again for all your help!
[17:44] <Chousuke> lalalol: the extra packages mean absolutely nothing if you don't use them
[17:44] <lalalol> Chousuke, some apps use another language :/
[17:44] <Chousuke> lalalol: as in, not english?
[17:44] <lalalol> ive tried uninstalling all but 1, and some apps still use it :@
[17:44] <lalalol> yeah
[17:44] <Mathuin> I would like to say that it rocks that Ubuntu actually *supports* the device I'm using, and FreeBSD has yet to include the patch I wrote to add the device to the supported Silicon Labs devices like a year ago.  Sigh.  Anyway, bye!
[17:44] <sipior> lalalol: which applications are still in dutch?
[17:44] <llutz> Mathuin: maybe using an udev-rule, calling setserial?
[17:45] <Chousuke> lalalol: that's weird. if you have english set as your language it should stay that way
[17:45] <bcj> Right, I've added two locations to the calendar thing (top right) - London and Trondheim.  How do I now tell Ubuntu that I'm currently in Trondheim (i.e. to adjust my time)?
[17:45] <lalalol> sipior, wicd, adobe flash (on yt), the omnibox in chromium
[17:45] <lalalol> i know Chousuke, its totally messed up
[17:46] <Saviq> hi all, trying to get a xubuntu 10.4b1 alternate install onto a usb stick, tried unetbootin and dd so far, neither worked... can anyone report any success installing without an optical drive?
[17:46] <Pici> bcj: If you mouse-over the new location a little 'set' button will appear.
[17:46] <Pici> Saviq : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[17:46] <bcj> Pici: Tried that - it doesn't work
[17:46] <Pici> bcj: why not?
[17:46] <bcj> Pici: It puts a little house icon over Trondheim (as if it is now my home location), but the system stays as London.
[17:47] <bcj> Pici: system time*
[17:47] <bcj> Pici: Ah; it's updated now - just needed a few minutes.
[17:47] <Pici> bcj: Hrm, thats weird.
[17:47] <Pici> bcj: okay :)
[17:47] <bcj> Pici: Christ nows why it didn't update as soon as it was set.
[17:48] <martinS_> Hi. /proc/bus/usb has disappeared after update to kernel 2.6.31-20. Why is that?
[17:48] <guntbert> hamzaatova3: try in #openoffice.org
[17:49] <Trashi> heyho.i have a problem with rsync. currently i move a server and apps to another one. db is replicated by master <> master replication and it works really fine. after that i did copy all php files to the new server. now there is an error when i try to reach website on the new server. firefox sais after rsync: content encoding error > wrong compression... .... new system is centos ... old system was suse ... anybody know whats the problem with 
[17:50] <lydia> hola
[17:50] <pabelanger> I'm looking to get some help/information on debugging qemu-system-ppc.  Have problems getting ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04 (powerpc) within Qemu.
[17:50] <lydia> hello
[17:51] <lydia> hola alguien español
[17:51] <msandbu> hi guys, how can I install XBMC on 10.04 beta?
[17:52] <lalalol> i tried "sudo apt-get remove nl_BE.UTF-8" but it cant find it
[17:52] <jkd4> does su = sudo and gksu = gksudo?
[17:52] <Loonatic> !spanish
[17:53] <Trashi> heyho.i have a problem with rsync. currently i move a server and apps to another one. db is replicated by master <> master replication and it works really fine. after that i did copy all php files to the new server. now there is an error when i try to reach website on the new server. firefox sais after rsync: content encoding error > wrong compression... .... new system is centos ... old system was suse ... anybody know whats the problem with 
[17:53] <serverduck> Is there a channel were i can ask a hardware related question?
[17:53] <Pici> serverduck: ##hardware
[17:53] <Pici> msandbu : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[17:53] <Trashi> thanks
[17:53] <lalalol> with gksudo it doesnt work either
[17:53] <serverduck> Pici,  thanks
[17:54] <Pici> jkd4: No, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for a different between su and sudo
[17:54] <jkd4> lalalol: are you talking to me?
[17:54] <guntbert> Trashi: how is that ubuntu related?
[17:54] <lalalol> yes jkd4
[17:54] <Trashi> #hardware > only invitation -.-
[17:54] <Pici> Trashi: ##hardware, two hashes.
[17:54] <elb0w> Anyone have a moment I could pick their brain about the Private Cloud?
[17:54] <Trashi> Pici: ah ok
[17:54] <jkd4> lalalol: what were you telling me? I don't understand.
[17:55] <bj0rn2> I made an ext4 filesystem in a file on a samba-share.. is this risky business or should I just go ahead with this? :)
[17:55] <Trashi> guntbert: it isnt but for me its the same ... ubuntu, debian, centos or suse .. doesnt matter .....
[17:55] <virtnode> okiam
[17:55] <wols_> bj0rn2: you can do that just fine
[17:55] <okiam> virt
[17:55] <okiam> virtnode
[17:55] <vega_> how do i add fonts?
[17:55] <bj0rn2> wols_: how about risks of corruption if the network is unstable?
[17:55] <vega_> (didn't find anything on help.ubuntu.com)
[17:55] <Pici> Trashi: It does matter though, different distros package different versions of rsync compiled with different options.
[17:56] <Pici> !fonts | vega_
[17:56] <oday> hello
[17:56] <lalalol> jkd4, i thought you advized me to use gksudo instead of sudo, guess not :/
[17:56] <Guest12180> how come when i burn a data/mp3 cd in k3b it doesnt keep the songs in the order i put them?
[17:57] <oday> i'd like to know, can the Howto guide for Karmic get me through Lucid just fine?
[17:57] <Pici> oday: Probably, but please #ubuntu+1 for further Lucid questions
[17:57] <oday> alright
[17:57] <vega_> Pici: thanks
[17:57] <oday> thanks :)
[17:58] <alexbobp> The update to 9.10 rendered my computer unbootable... it seems it didn't build it's kernel with luks support
[17:58] <alexbobp> how can I fix my system?
[17:58] <seb_> léa ??
[17:58] <seb_> es tu ici?
[17:58] <Guest12180> how come when i burn a data/mp3 cd in k3b it doesnt keep the songs in the order i put them?
[17:59] <guntbert> !fr | seb_
[17:59] <seb_> ah!
[18:00] <cobart25> ok merci Ubottu
[18:05] <nightsjammies> hello
[18:05] <Myrtti> ohai
[18:08] <gentooma> Hi - is there a special repository for the atom processor available for ubuntu?  - I mean customized kernel, and so on ?
[18:08] <nightsjammies> I hate apple, and I f*cking hate windows.
[18:08] <rsk> nightsjammies why hate
[18:09] <rsk> when you can love <3
[18:09] <wols_> gentooma: ubuntu is not gentoo...
[18:09] <nightsjammies> because they are a pain in the ass..
[18:09] <riley> i need some help with evolution.  I just switched over from m$ outlook and imported my .pst file but not all the emails are coming through on the evolution side.
[18:09] <guntbert> nightsjammies: please watch your language and keept to the topic
[18:09] <guntbert> *keep
[18:09] <nightsjammies> yeah yeah...I know.
[18:10] <nightsjammies> just grr..
[18:10] <rsk> nightsjammies they aren't unless you are using them.
[18:10] <andrevanzuydam> Gentooma - you're probably looking for the netbook edition
[18:10] <rsk> nightsjammies so the fault is on you.
[18:10] <gentooma> wols_: I know - :) thats why I'm asking and for my nettop I'd like to do it the ubuntu way
[18:11] <gentooma> andrevanzuydam: yeah I've already read about that, but is it possible to "upgrade" to the netbook version (and perhaps keeping the same old gnome :) - the netbook-interface makes not much sense on a 19" display :P
[18:11] <andrevanzuydam> I would keep your home folder for starters
[18:11] <andrevanzuydam> Im not sure what an install would do to that
[18:12] <conb123> Does anyone here have any experience with lm-sensors? My set tempx_type 3 lines are not being read, here is my sensors.conf http://pastebin.com/NbyZD7uR
[18:13] <andrevanzuydam> concerning the settings - you can always save the .gnome* folders under your user profile and test ?
[18:13] <nightsjammies> yeah, pretty much.
[18:13] <nightsjammies> and an itunes app..
[18:14] <nightsjammies> my screen jumps around when I'm in a browser. is anyone else familiar with this and have a solution?
[18:14] <mikelifeguard> Does System>Administration>USB Startup Disk Creator make a livecd-like install that can't be modified? Or will I be able to install new applications, save files, etc, on the USB install?
[18:15] <andrevanzuydam> Another option would be to do the netbook install then run an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop - this is all theory as I have not tried it
[18:15] <andrevanzuydam> Maybe change repos to Karmic for the desktop install
[18:15] <grj> t3y
[18:16] <Guest64916> tring to install wireless but showig disconnected ubuntu 9.10
[18:16] <wols_> Guest64916: what wlan chip?
[18:17] <otswim> could someone help me grab the videos that are on: http://www.livestream.com/striderdoom?
[18:18] <Guest64916> Looking for suggestions...
[18:18] <andrevanzuydam> Nightjammies - check your GUI addons under appearance - may want to install Advanced Desktop Effects Settings (ccsm) and tweak that
[18:18] <guntbert> otswim: don't post random links here - instead tell us more about how you try to get them
[18:19] <andrevanzuydam> Wireless setting problems are normally related to the auth type - check for shared or open and the encryption
[18:20] <otswim> guntbert: i was told to use 'DownloadHelper' the firefox extension so i'll try that
[18:20] <Guest64916> quit
[18:20] <guntbert> otswim: Good luck :-)
[18:20] <Loonatic> Hi,  anyone knows a way to monitored or log everything that someone does via console/shell access ?
[18:21] <high-freq> Loonatic, try checkin the .bash_history
[18:21] <otswim> guntbert: i was giving the link just to show the thing that i need; saying 'youtube'-like wouldn't have been helpful (or actually maybe)
[18:21] <Loonatic> high-freq: good idea but i'm trying to get this a bit more easier like sending any ssh to log file or something similar to this
[18:22] <guntbert> otswim: I see - but you know following such links is a scary thing
[18:22] <dbristow> Hey, I am downloading 10.04 beta1, is there any special reason why the sha256sums wouldn't match?
[18:22] <dbristow> Hey, I am downloading 10.04 beta1, is there any special reason why the sha256sums wouldn't match?
[18:22] <Pici> dbristow : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[18:22] <high-freq> Loonatic, if people are untrustworthy then don't give them shell access...if so then check on keylogger programs that u might be able to install or if shell then maybe the screen command will work not sure about screen
[18:22] <dbristow> Didn't mean to say twice.
[18:23] <otswim> guntbert: you're right, i'm sorry i scared you :p
[18:23] <dbristow> Pici: OK, gotcha.
[18:23] <guntbert> otswim: you didn't scare *me* - but I didn't follow that link either ...
[18:24] <mrman> hi
[18:24] <otswim> i understand
[18:24] <Loonatic> high-freq: thx for the info i'l lgo play wiuth screen :)
[18:24] <Madwill> hi i installed ubuntu in a virtual box as a demo server for our application but i'd like the thing to be able to be copied and started on any network the thing is i can accesss eth0 only if i delete everything in 70-persistent-net.rules and some users seams to find this to be too much trouble
[18:24] <Madwill> is there a way to automaticly do this or simply not at all
[18:25] <afsal> .
[18:25] <guntbert> Madwill: you could delete that before you copy it
[18:26] <high-freq> madwill, check out cronjobs, have it setup daily,weekly, hourly blahblah
[18:26] <nightsjammies> otswim...google. bbmao firefox extension./
[18:26] <otswim> nightsjammies: i'm trying 'video downloadhelper'
[18:26] <guntbert> high-freq: won't help Madwill , as it is a one time thing for every VM
[18:26] <high-freq> aah ok
[18:26] <nightsjammies> okay, but imo, bbmao is better :)
[18:26] <nightsjammies> just a helping..
[18:27] <Madwill> yeah i will export it when everything is deleted
[18:27] <Madwill> see what happens
[18:27] <james> hello
[18:27] <Guest83172> find robert
[18:28] <otswim> nightsjammies: i'll try it to, thanks
[18:29] <nightsjammies> okay. if you do, then go to your tools> aace? menu to find it.
[18:29] <Guest83172> many people joining and leaving!
[18:29] <cur> i haven't jumped in yet because I am talking over in Xubuntu... hehe
[18:29] <cur> oh btw Hi everyone!
[18:30] <guntbert> Madwill: thats the way I handled the issue - thx for reminding me :-)
[18:30] <Madwill> also grub starts, is there a way to make it select generic be default without user input ?
[18:32] <Guest83172> change nick
[18:32] <andrevanzuydam> Madwill - check /boot/grub/grub.cfg - there should be a set default = in there
[18:33] <guntbert> Madwill: in /etc/default/grub remove the # from the line GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[18:33] <jshriver> greetings
[18:33] <Madwill> also if i want to start a service by default something like OpenOffice, i made a script, its owned by root and i've added it into BUM if it does not start how can i know what is wrong (startup logs or something)
[18:33] <jshriver> Once 10 comes out can you update from beta to full? or should I just get 9.10
[18:33] <Madwill> thx guntbert
[18:34] <andrevanzuydam> Someone going to ask how to run Miscrosoft Security Essentials under WINE ? :-D
[18:34] <Sioux-33> hi whats different beteen CentOS and ubuntu?
[18:34] <jshriver> package management
[18:34] <jshriver> and some layout
[18:34] <andrevanzuydam> rpm vs apt
[18:34] <jshriver> and easy of use lol
[18:34] <guntbert> Madwill: openoffice is not a service - should *not* be started by root!!
[18:35] <almoxarife> I accidentally deleted my bottom panel, I keep a backup of the system, can someone tell me which file to restore??
[18:35] <jshriver> bottom panel?
[18:36] <almoxarife> jshriver: panel at bottom of screen, shows progs running???
[18:36] <cur> almoxarife - do you still have your top panel?
[18:36] <almoxarife> cur: yes
[18:36] <jshriver> hrm no idea guessing you're using a different window manger
[18:36] <puckman> G'day
[18:36] <cur> then right click your top panel and add panel
[18:36] <NoOutlet> Hey all, I'm having some trouble with my sound, specifically recording. I have a Sound Blaster Audigy2 Platinum.
[18:36] <puckman> Silly question but what are the pop up info windows called in ubuntu
[18:36] <puckman> the ones that look like Growl on the Mac
[18:37] <ev0> Having some issues with ubuntu 7.04 server getting samba installed. Any that can offer assistance?
[18:37] <guntbert> puckman: notify ?
[18:37] <puckman> they pop up when a network comes available or I change a song in listen etc
[18:37] <jshriver> ev0: what's wrong?
[18:37] <Slart> !7.04
[18:37] <puckman> guntbert: ah, that could be it, can I switch that off?
[18:37] <jshriver> trying from package or from source?
[18:37] <almoxarife> cur: nothing happens except for my icons shift to the right on the display
[18:37] <puckman> guntbert: they dont seem to play nice with my gfx card in my old ibm
[18:37] <ev0> how do i try for package
[18:37] <bobstro> puckman:  i think you mean the "OSD" - on screen display
[18:37] <ev0> an i understand its old
[18:37] <jshriver> apt-get install samba
[18:37] <guntbert> puckman: sorry, never tried
[18:37] <Slart> ev0: 7.04 is not supported any more
[18:37] <bobstro> puckman:  text floating over desktop, right?
[18:37] <cur> hmm
[18:38] <puckman> bobstro: yeah
[18:38] <ev0> setting p for testing purpose
[18:38] <Madwill> guntbert if i do not start openOffice as a service owned by Root i cannot use it for document conversion
[18:38] <jshriver> apt-cache search samba   then install relevant packages, but I would recommend updating if possible.
[18:38] <puckman> bobstro: works fine on my macbook ubuntu but the ibm does not display them well
[18:38] <ev0> and when i try from source. it just keeps telling me to use disk
[18:38] <guntbert> Madwill: thats beyond my understanding - please ask in #openoffice.org
[18:38] <Slart> ev0: have you changed the repositories to the old-releases ones?
[18:38] <ev0> an im using this version on purpose
[18:38] <puckman> bobstro: do you know where I can disable those?
[18:38] <ev0> @slart no i have not
[18:39] <bobstro> puckman:  there are a few variants. i just broke mine. :)
[18:39] <cur> there is no new panel option?
[18:39] <Slart> ev0: then you probably can't install anything using apt-get, right?
[18:39] <Madwill> thx but the thing works great but only when i start it myself not on startup
[18:39] <nightsjammies> okay, so how would I tweak the ccsm to try and get rid of the window jumping around?
[18:39] <almoxarife> cur: no
[18:39] <angela_> hello ken enyone tell my what the command line ara for umbuto termenal as root
[18:39] <ev0> correct
[18:39] <cur> almoxarife: right click and tell me what you have for options
[18:39] <Slart> angela_: sudo -i, and it's ubuntu
[18:39] <guntbert> !root | angela_
[18:40] <angela_> sorry
[18:40] <Slart> ev0: you need to change your repositories.. since the default ones don't exist any more.. let me see if I can find the info for you
[18:40] <ev0> very much appreciated :-)
[18:40] <ubuntujenkins> I asked earlier today, but does anyone know how to change the live cd user name?
[18:40] <almoxarife> cur: I have 'new panel' and I have pressed it three times now, only thing that happens is the icons on the desktop shift to the right
[18:41] <bobstro> guntbert:  unless you're using cups
[18:41] <Slart> ev0: try this http://atlanticlinux.ie/blog/?p=143
[18:41] <angela_> i know i have needet for sudu power
[18:41] <ev0> k
[18:41] <guntbert> bobstro: I beg your pardon?
[18:41] <Pici> angela_: Please read the link that ubottu gave you.
[18:41] <almoxarife> panel config must reside in a file, what file is it? I can restore it from a backup??
[18:41] <ev0> thanks Slart will update momentarily
[18:42] <bobstro> guntbert:  at times using cups, you can't use sudo (via web interface)
[18:42] <angela_> oke
[18:42] <guntbert> bobstro: never happened here
[18:42] <Slart> ev0: when you've done that you can install software as usual.. it will be older software though.. with bugs and secutiry holes intact
[18:42] <nightsjammies> okay, how do I check the dependencies of rhythmbox?
[18:42] <Tapout> do you need to install the nvidia drivers to get performance out of your video card in ubuntu?
[18:42] <nightsjammies> in termianl?
[18:42] <andrevanzuydam> Almoxarife - you need to add some tools to your panel to do the window switching and the desktop minimize ...
[18:42] <cur> @almoxarife on the left hand side of the screen right click and see if you have any panel options, depending on your settings gnome might be making the panels but keeping them clear. See if you can open a properties menu once you have rightclicked
[18:42] <bobstro> guntbert:  on a single-user you wouldn't see it i suspect
[18:43] <soulscar> i'm tring to install ubuntu using pxe but the client gives me the error arp time out do you guys how to solve it ?
[18:43] <Slart> nightsjammies: there is a command for apt-cache ... something like apt-cache dependencies somepackage.. check   man apt-cache   for more info
[18:43] <almoxarife> cur: tried that :) nothing there
[18:43] <ev0> im using it for security testing purposes
[18:44] <mikebeecham> can anyone tell me if there's a way to reposition the panel clock, so that the date and time are beside each other, rather than above each other?
[18:44] <soulscar> i'm tring to install ubuntu using pxe but the client gives me the error arp time out do you guys how to solve it ?
[18:45] <cur> almoxarife: hmmm if your desktop moves all icons to the right, then the panels should be showing up on the left of your screen...
[18:46] <almoxarife> cur: you would think, but it does not
[18:46] <ev0> any guess as to which source samba would come from
[18:46] <ev0> main restricted?
[18:46] <Slart> !info samba
[18:46] <Slart> ev0: I'm guessing main =)
[18:47] <ev0> thanks
[18:47] <cur> almoxarife: can you take a screenshot and pm it to me?
[18:48] <afsal> can any1 help me with nvdia
[18:48] <Myrtti> !ask | afsal
[18:48] <andrevanzuydam> afsal - I use EnvyNG to help with the screen drivers
[18:49] <afsal> when i take nvdia x server setting it says You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[18:49] <Uboss> Hello everyone!
[18:50] <blekos> hello, is there a way to have Remote Desktop on Linux (not to just have access to remote pc. But actually have a different session)
[18:50] <cur> hello Uboss
[18:50] <Uboss> Anyone knows how to check what Ubuntu I have installed? I mean, 32-bit or 64-bit.
[18:50] <andrevanzuydam> afsal - apt-get install envy-qt - rather let it help with the settings
[18:50] <pabelanger> blekos: qemu-kvm
[18:50] <afsal> how do i edit nvidia x config file
[18:50] <ev0> When u run into a problem such as the administration directory is locked. An there is a possibility that another process is using it. Is there a way to determine exactly what process?
[18:51] <CrustyBarnacle> Uboss: 'uname -a'
[18:51] <almoxarife> cur: accpt the file?
[18:51] <Uboss> CrustyBarnacle, 1 min to check.
[18:51] <blekos> thnx
[18:51] <Uboss> CrustyBarnacle, i686 means.. ?
[18:52] <cur> almoxarife: eeek sorry try again
[18:52] <CrustyBarnacle> Uboss: 32bit
[18:52] <afsal> it says Couldn't find package envy-qt
[18:52] <Uboss> CrustyBarnacle, alright. Thanks
[18:52] <CrustyBarnacle> Uboss: 'x86_64' = 64bit
[18:52] <andrevanzuydam> afsal - check that you have multiverse on in your software repos
[18:53] <afsal> how do i do that i am new to ubuntu
[18:53] <cur> almoxarife: gah keeps failing
[18:53] <Uboss> CrustyBarnacle, hmm thx again! btw is it possible to have one CD with 32bit and 64bit on it? (To let me choose which to install as Windows)
[18:53] <angela_> oke it hase workt out as i whant to have it
[18:53] <andrevanzuydam> afsal - sorry rather universe
[18:53] <andrevanzuydam> then run sudo apt-get update
[18:53] <CrustyBarnacle> Uboss: The install CDs I've used were specific to 32 or 64, not both.
[18:54] <Uboss> CrustyBarnacle, good. Now am sure the CD which I have is 32bit only.
[18:54] <andrevanzuydam> I always forget the sudo - does everyone use sudo su when they need to install and compile stuff or is it just me ? :P
[18:55] <iceroot> andrevanzuydam: noone is using sudo su because its wrong
[18:55] <iceroot> andrevanzuydam: you want sudo -i  or just sudo command
[18:55] <jimius> how to fight off traffic cameras :P
[18:55] <jimius> http://i.imgur.com/RQcCi.jpg
[18:55] <tp43__> anyone know how to use two webcams at once?
[18:55] <andrevanzuydam> my bad - comes from my redhat background where root is a user :)
[18:56] <CrustyBarnacle> Uboss: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[18:56] <tp43__> root is a user on every distro except Ubuntu I think
[18:56] <iceroot> tp43__: its a user on ubuntu too
[18:56] <andrevanzuydam> I think its better to use sudo su then to enable root user
[18:56] <iceroot> andrevanzuydam: again! sudo su is wrong
[18:56] <iceroot> andrevanzuydam: use sudo -i
[18:56] <tp43__> my bad
[18:56] <Uboss> jimius, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:56] <andrevanzuydam> Thanks iceroot
[18:57] <CrustyBarnacle> !sudo
[18:57] <andrevanzuydam> what is sudo -i ?
[18:57] <bobstro> jimius:  doesn't seem likely to work either :)
[18:57] <iceroot> andrevanzuydam: a rootshell with CORRECT environment
[18:57] <iceroot> andrevanzuydam: sudo su is setting the environment wrong
[18:58] <blekos> hm, what I basically want to  do is: have a pc with windos XP Pro (which will run an ERP). I want 3 different users to be able to log in to that PC from different linux machines. How can I do that?
[18:58] <andrevanzuydam> iceroot : Cool - that's why I here to learn - I take it I can then compile and have fun as normal ?
[18:58] <iceroot> andrevanzuydam: dont use a root-shell, use the normal sudo command
[18:59] <bobstro> blekos:  rdp client will work
[18:59] <progre55> hi people! a friend of mine has installed open-suse after ubuntu as a dual-boot, but it has fcked up his grub-menu now. is it possible to repair the ubuntu grub from a live-cd?
[18:59] <CrustyBarnacle> andrevanzuydam: sudo -i is equal to logging in as root... normal sudo will do
[18:59] <bobstro> blekos:  so xp will be a stand-alone box with 3 user accounts, right?
[18:59] <Vigo> Here is the Wikipedia on that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_%28Unix%29
[19:00] <dbook82> dangit, how do i mount a dvd so i can watch it?
[19:00] <CrustyBarnacle> !sudo | andrevanzuydam
[19:00] <andrevanzuydam> Ok - but when i need to run a whole group of commands - ie compiling etc - its a pain to do sudo each time, what is the difference ?
[19:00] <blekos> not really. xp will be a stand-alone box. No need for 3 different accounts
[19:00] <tp43__> progre55, it can be done, I don't think you need the live cd, unless you can't boot either OS, anyway, I will give you a hint, edit the grub.menu file or something like that, and then run grub-update or somthing like that
[19:00] <andrevanzuydam> I would like to understand this properly
[19:00] <TimothyA> I have an file copy progress bar that refuses to close. What to do? :|
[19:00] <bobstro> andrevanzuydam:  sudo won't ask you every time
[19:00] <Vigo> Here is the Ubuntu Documentation on Root Su and Sudo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[19:00] <blekos> I want 3 users to run the same program (eg. openoffice) from the pc box
[19:00] <iceroot> andrevanzuydam: sudo is caching the password
[19:00] <bobstro> andrevanzuydam:  there's a timeout
[19:00] <nightsjammies> Has anyone gotten video in rhythmbox to work via: http://code.google.com/p/rhythmbox-videosource/
[19:01] <progre55> tp43__: thanks, will try that now
[19:01] <tp43__> dbailey, Ubuntu automounts, and vlc plays dvd, same with mplayer
[19:01] <blekos> xp will be smg like a mini-server
[19:01] <iceroot> blekos: ##windows
[19:01] <iceroot> blekos: its not related to ubuntu
[19:01] <bobstro> blekos:  3 users on DIFFERENT linux boxes accessing 1 winxp box, right?
[19:01] <blekos> it is
[19:01] <andrevanzuydam> Ok - I may be wrong but in my experience doing a make / make install without sudo doesn't normally work
[19:01] <progre55> tp43__: there is no grub-update. mb grub-setup?
[19:01] <tp43__> progre55, I never did it lately, otherwise I would give you the precise file names, but you ls /boot and see the new names
[19:01] <iceroot> blekos: using rdp on windows is not ubuntu-related
[19:01] <bobstro> blekos:  you can use RDP client on linux to talk to XP box just fine. as long as apps on XP will work that way, it will work fine.
[19:01] <blekos> iceroot: i think it is, because I want to know how 3 users can log in  from ubuntu to xp
[19:02] <bobstro> blekos:  wups -- sorry -- not THREE users
[19:02] <bobstro> blekos:  you'd need terminal services on win for that. i think XP will limit to 1-2
[19:02] <andrevanzuydam> Thanks for the link Vigo
[19:02] <CyberaX2195> :S i don't think the upgrade from grub > grub2 went very well ...
[19:02] <bobstro> blekos:  but gnome-rdp is the piece you need on linux. works fine.
[19:02] <Vigo> andrevanzuydam: You are very welcome.
[19:03] <CyberaX2195> i'm not sure if its a bug in the package , or in grub2 tho :/
[19:03] <bobstro> blekos:  your bigger problem is that XP won't allow 3 connects simultaneously if that's what you want.
[19:03] <CyberaX2195> or even if thats the cause
[19:03] <straterra> Whats the difference between the normal ubuntu and the netbook remix version?
[19:03] <blekos> i c
[19:03] <arand> straterra: Interface.
[19:03] <nightsjammies> your screen configuration straterra
[19:03] <straterra> Like..GNOME/KDE?
[19:03] <bobstro> blekos:  but why run openoffice on xp when you can run it on ubuntu?
[19:03] <iceroot> straterra: no amd64 version,different gui and imo different kernel
[19:04] <nightsjammies> nope..
[19:04] <pabelanger> I'm looking to get some help/information on debugging qemu-system-ppc.  Have problems getting ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04 (powerpc) within Qemu.
[19:04] <arand> straterra: Heavily customized gnome: http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr
[19:04] <blekos> openoffice was an example
[19:04] <nightsjammies> check this straterra http://eee-pc.ru/wiki/_media/eeebuntu:nbr_1_400.png?w=&h=&cache=cache
[19:04] <progre55> tp43__: well, neither of the OS is booting, so if I use the live-CD, would I have to mount the disc first?
[19:05] <iceroot> blekos: use rdp with different users and again, that is not related to ubuntu
[19:05] <nightsjammies> it's actually pretty nice. I've used it at one time.
[19:05] <blekos> actually what users will run is an  ERP for the business I work
[19:05] <blekos> ok
[19:05] <straterra> Eh..I think I'll use normal Ubuntu, even though its going on a netbook
[19:05] <blekos> iceroot
[19:05] <tp43__> progre55, when you boot the live cd, it will mount it, Do not umount it
[19:05] <progre55> tp43__: I mean, the hd partition where my ubuntu is installed
[19:05] <Vigo> This link explains the Netbook and other releases and why: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[19:05] <blekos> gnome-rdp was the answer
[19:05] <progre55> tp43__: oh okay, thanks
[19:06] <progre55> blekos: the answer to my question?
[19:06] <progre55> oops, never mind )
[19:06] <tp43__> progre55, yeah, you will probably have to mount boot, to edit that boot.menu file, find someone else or google for the exact file names.  let me check one sec
[19:06] <blekos> nope, to mine
[19:06] <andrevanzuydam> Interesting link on sudo : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6188826&postcount=4
[19:06] <nightsjammies> and you can't run compiz with the nbr
[19:07] <tp43__> progre55, if you type grub and hit tab, you will see lots of apps
[19:07] <progre55> tp43__: yeah I can see them, and I think grub-setup is the one, right?
[19:07] <ViniciusCC> Pessoal uma dúvida
[19:07] <ViniciusCC> Staff a question
[19:08] <tp43__> progre55, yeah, but better google instructions first
[19:08] <Vigo> andrevanzuydam: Thank you, that is a good example/explanation
[19:08] <progre55> tp43__: oki, thanks
[19:08] <Aren> What differences are there between Hardy Heron LTS and Karmic Koala that might cause the former to be installable and usable where the latter won't even boot as a Live CD, much less install?  When I attempt to do so, after choosing either option, I either end up with the Ubuntu symbol and a locked up laptop or a blank screen with a blinking white cursor in the upper left (depending on the boot options chosen).
[19:08] <nightsjammies> but you can switch between nbr and the regular gnome desktop...
[19:08] <afsal> how can i restart x server
[19:08] <tp43__> progre55, I can't find the file, menu.lst, that is the one you wanna edit, and include both the suse and ubuntu kernels
[19:08] <andrevanzuydam> Bottom line if you miss-use  sudo you can mess up how your apps run
[19:08] <KB1JWQ> !dontzap | afsal
[19:08] <lalalol> how can i uninstall a language from the terminal?
[19:08] <ViniciusCC> I installed ubuntu in a virtual machine and can not increase the screen resolution. How do I maximize the screen of the virtual box in ubuntu is still small.
[19:08] <dbook82> if i want to mount my dvdrom drive, do i use mount dev/cdrom0 or mount /media/cdrom0?
[19:09] <Trek> Aren: i don't technically understand your question... can you be more specific without writing walls of text please?
[19:09] <I-Blocklist971> Where is a windows network share mounted in ubuntu
[19:09] <ViniciusCC> ok
[19:09] <andrevanzuydam> Can anyone tell me how to enable Ctrl+ALt Backspace again ?
[19:09] <fbc-mx> How do I repeat the replace config questions during an upgrade?? During the upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 my brother didn't replace the configs for fear that he would lose some information..
[19:09] <andrevanzuydam> I loved that shortcut
[19:09] <Guest48428> hello
[19:09] <Trek> !dontzap | andrevanzuydam
[19:09] <progre55> tp43__: yeah, karmic doesnot have that..
[19:09] <sipior> Trek: you want him to be more specific, by writing less?
[19:09] <sipior> Aren: what's the most recent version of ubuntu that works on your machine?
[19:09] <lalalol> by being to the point ;)
[19:10] <Trek> sipior: I want him to not include other info, I just want to see his question, not the "I tried this and got that to happen" stuff that came after his question
[19:10] <sipior> Trek: yes, heaven forbid we get useful details.
[19:10] <tp43__> progre55, well let me know how you did it when you are done if you feel like it.  I am trying to run two webcams at once
[19:10] <Trek> sipior: im' on a small screen :P
[19:10] <lalalol> who knows the command to uninstall a language via the terminal?
[19:10] <arand> Aren: That sounds like the newer kernel version used might have a regression related to your specific hardware. Try using the acpi=off boot option, might help.
[19:10] <ViniciusCC> I installed ubuntu in a virtual machine, that program Virutal box, and can not increase the screen resolution in ubuntu. How do I maximize the screen of the virtual box in ubuntu is still small. I asked a friend of mine and he said I have to install the Virtual Tools, most do not know where it is and I lay with Linux. Could someone help me:
[19:11] <andrevanzuydam> Thanks ubottu - what is XKB ?
[19:11] <New2LinuxGu1> is there a way to use apt-get to download a package and then install it on another computer later?
[19:11] <progre55> tp43__: sure I will, thanks for all the support man, appreciate
[19:11] <Aren> sipior: Hardy Heron 8.04 is known to be workable.  Karmic Koala 9.10 and the Lucid Beta are both unusable.  arand: I tried acpi=off, I still get a crash, but instead of the blinking cursor I get the white ubuntu symbol centered on a black screen....but still a crash.
[19:11] <Trek> New2LinuxGu1, why?  cant you just sudo apt-get on the computer in question?
[19:12] <New2LinuxGu1> no internet on that pc.
[19:12] <Vigo> Trek: This link explains the different releases and hardware compatibility: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[19:12] <andrevanzuydam> Vinnicius: Normally under /usr/share/virtualbox
[19:12] <Trek> Vigo: ?
[19:12] <jaycount> if im on karmic how do I move my buttons to the left side? wanna try this out
[19:12] <sipior> Aren: what sort of hardware you running?
[19:12] <erUSUL> !offline | New2LinuxGu1
[19:12] <ftab> jaycount, what buttons are you referring to?
[19:12] <dbook82> if i want to mount my dvdrom drive, do i use mount dev/cdrom0 or mount /media/cdrom0?
[19:12] <fbc-mx> lalalol, it's going to be somethign like "sudo aptget uninstall aspell-xx" and other such XX(language) related files...
[19:12] <jaycount> ftab: the window control buttons, sorry, shouldve specified ;)
[19:13] <ftab> dbook82, go for GMount
[19:13] <Trek> New2LinuxGu1, it probably has that feature, but it won't save to where you want it to, it'll probably be in some obscure part of the drive
[19:13] <Aren> sipior: Toshiba Satellite, model number A105-S2131 with maxed out RAM and a 250 gig HDD installed.
[19:13] <sipior> Aren: also, are you sure you've downloaded the correct architecture image? (32- vs. 64-bit, in particular)
[19:13] <jaycount> ftab: like it's going to be in lucid
[19:13] <Vigo> Trek: Yes, that URL shows the Hardware and specs for every release.
[19:13] <fbc-mx> How do I repeat the replace config questions during an upgrade?? During the upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 my brother didn't replace the configs for fear that he would lose some information..now he gets no sound and flaky video problems.
[19:13] <arand> ViniciusCC: in the virtual machine, install the package "virtualbox-ose-guest-utils", or in the case you are using the PUEL version from Oracle, get their guest tools iso, which should be in the menus of virtualbox.
[19:13] <dbook82> ftab: is gmount a command or a program?
[19:13] <Aren> sipior: 99.9% certain I grabbed the 32 bit edition.  Reverifying the ISO's MD5 now.
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[19:13] <Trek> Vigo: again, ???  why you sending me that?  i didnt need it
[19:13] <ftab> jaycount, I guess that depends on theme
[19:14] <ftab> dbook82, that is a program
[19:14] <ViniciusCC> instalei o ubuntu em uma maquina virtual, naquele programa virutal box, e não consigo aumentar a resolução da tela no ubuntu. Quanto eu maximizo a tela do virtual box, a do ubuntu continua pequena. Perguntei a  um amigo meu e ele disse que tenho que tenho que instalar o Virtual tools, mais não encontro aonde fica e sou leigo no assunto, alguem pode me ajudar?
[19:14] <dbook82> ftab: does it work with karmic?
[19:14] <Vigo> Trek: Whoopps, I thought you asked about Netbook or something,
[19:14] <lalalol> ill try that fbc-mx
[19:14] <ViniciusCC> I installed ubuntu in a virtual machine, that program Virutal box, and can not increase the screen resolution in ubuntu. How do I maximize the screen of the virtual box in ubuntu is still small. I asked a friend of mine and he said that I have to install Virtual tools, it can not find where it is and I lay on the subject, can someone help me?
[19:14] <zbyte64> Riddle my this: I don't want to give a user mount privileges except for mounting their own loop blocks that they have created. I don't want to edit fstab every time the user creates an arbitrary loop file.
[19:14] <Trek> Vigo: nope, I use the LiveCD to find hardware compatibility :P
[19:14] <ftab> dbook82, I am using it with Karmic already :-)
[19:14] <ftab> dbook82, sudo apt-get install gmount
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Viniciuscc: install the guest additions
[19:14] <Trek> Vigo: I got a copy of 9.04 livecd and 9.10 livecd :P
[19:15] <Vigo> Trek: Wise, you are :)
[19:15] <rros> what do these "Ign http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main Translation-en_US" mean from the output of 'apt-get update' mean? I always see these lines with Translation-en_US fail ...
[19:15] <New2LinuxGu1> cool.  let me give that a try.  Many thanks.  I looked all over and couldn't find an answer.  many thanks!
[19:15] <Trek> Vigo: yup, I got LiveUSBs too :P
[19:15] <lalalol> fbc-mx, doesnt work at all :/
[19:15] <dbook82> ftab: workin on it
[19:16] <Vigo> Trek: Is the the Unetbootin? or did you just copy to USB?
[19:16] <andrevanzuydam> And the reason that Ctrl+Alt Backspace is out is because of Accessibility options - just warning everyone
[19:16] <dbook82> ftab: terminal says couldn't find package gmount
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> andrevanzuydam: you can reinstate it, alt+k+printscreen is now used
[19:17] <dani> ola
[19:17] <arand> Aren: I don't have a good idea what the problem is, but one thing you could do is go via the F6 menu and choose advanced to edit the boot line manually, there, remove the "quiet" and "splash" and then press enter to boot, this will hopefully show some information which might point to what the issue might be.. (The last line(s) before it stops is possibly of interest)
[19:17] <ftab> dbook82, hang on
[19:17] <Aren> sipior: 8790491bfa9d00f283ed9dd2d77b3906  ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso (verifying against https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes) -- MD5 match (OK)
[19:17] <jmcantrell> is there a way to reset the compiz settings to the default?
[19:17] <over_soul> Hi all - I just installed Ubuntu Studio and I have some problems with my sound - I'm using creative x-fi platinum as sound card and I can't make the driver, it gives me erroe... Please help me...
[19:17] <Guest45343> xdxdxd no hay la as cagado
[19:17] <Aren> arand: Remove "quiet" and "splash" via F6?  Ok...I'll give it a try.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Jmcantrell: rename the compiz folder in $HOME and $HOME/.config then reboot should do it
[19:17] <fbc-mx> where the xx is you need to replace with the language such as "sudo aptget uninstall language-pack-es"
[19:17] <arand> jmcantrell: you using ccsm?
[19:18] <andrevanzuydam> Over_soul : some idea of the error will help
[19:18] <ftab> dbook82, it should be sudo apt-get install gmountiso
[19:18] <fbc-mx> lalalol, where the xx is you need to replace with the language such as "sudo aptget uninstall language-pack-es"
[19:18]  * Aren puts the 9.10 CD back in and reboots.
[19:18] <jmcantrell> arand: yes
[19:18] <Guest45343> lo
[19:18] <lalalol> ok fbc-mx
[19:18] <arand> Aren: yes, this will show all the messages printed by the kernel as it tries to boot
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Jmcantrell: if all is as you want after the reboot, delete the renamed folders
[19:18] <fbc-mx> lalalol, what language are you tying to uninstall?
[19:18] <jmcantrell> ActionParsnip: i will try that
[19:18] <lalalol> dutch fbc-mx
[19:19] <Trek> Vigo: the USB Startup Creator thingy
[19:19] <lalalol> and OMFG!!! this command works!
[19:19] <lalalol> ty so much dude!!!
[19:19] <dbook82> ftab: ok now its running, so what is gmount and how does it work?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Jmcantrell: the guys in #compiz may have a more graceful approach
[19:19] <arand> jmcantrell: In the preferences, there should be an option "reset to defaults" for a specific profile, or you could create a new one, which I think starts with the deafaults.
[19:19] <ftab> dbook82, gmount is a gui utility to mount images.
[19:19] <jmcantrell> arand: thanks
[19:19] <ftab> could be iso or any other format.
[19:19] <jmcantrell> is there a way to change the theme used by gdm?
[19:20] <ftab> jmcantrell, sure
[19:20] <Enverex> I had an nVidia based xorg.conf installed which got deleted, what is the best way to regenerate that file? (specifically for the nvidia driver)
[19:20] <Vigo> Trek: Is that the Fedora thing? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[19:20] <arand> jmcantrell: In karmic, the options for that is very limited
[19:20] <dbook82> ftab: ah i think i may have misworded what i'm looking for. how do i mount the drive so i can play music cds and/or dvds?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Jmcantrlee: in karmic I believe it is done via epidermis
[19:20] <Trek> Vigo: package usb-creator, i think.  i'm not on my ubu box so I don't know the package offhand
[19:20] <jmcantrell> i'm using lucid
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Dbook82: media players access the data raw, not mounted
[19:21] <fbc-mx> lalalol,  I would try "sudo apt-get remove laguage-pack-nl"
[19:21] <ftab> jmcantrell, System->Administration->Login Screen
[19:21] <Trek> !lucid | jmcantrell
[19:21] <lalalol> argh, its not completely removed
[19:21] <arand> jmcantrell: same there, and btw, lucid support in #ubuntu+1
[19:21] <lalalol> i did fbc-mx, its not completely gone
[19:21] <fbc-mx> lalalol, sorry I think the UNINSTALL commands doesn't exist..
[19:21] <ftab> dbook82, that utility should be self explanatory what you are looking for
[19:21] <Vigo> Trek: There is also a Net Install.
[19:21] <lalalol> yeah i know :p
[19:21] <dbook82> ftab: i put in a dvd, pulled up movie player and can't find the dvd
[19:21] <fbc-mx> lalalol, where does it need to disappear from?
[19:21] <lalalol> fbc-mx, everywhere xD
[19:22] <over_soul> andrevanzuydam :it says make [2]: *** [/home/firelock/Downloads.the dir ~~~~} error
[19:22] <Trek> Vigo: I'm on 9.04 still, I use USB Startup Creator, and UNetBootin occasionally (but not often)
[19:22] <over_soul> tmake 1 error
[19:22] <lalalol> fbc-mx, lets PM?
[19:22] <fbc-mx> lalalol, from gnome? from the dictionaries???
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Dbook82: have you installed libdvdcss2 from the medibuntu repo?
[19:22] <ftab> dbook82, in Karmic it should already be mounted, if not then try that gmouniso, even if its not working then try the mount command
[19:22] <krzysiek> hello
[19:22] <over_soul> andrevanzuydam: at the end it says make: ***[all] Error 2
[19:22] <dbook82> action: let me check right quick
[19:23] <zbyte64> I could have sworn there was a command like hdiutil on ubuntu that would let you mount items without actually needing to do a sudo mount
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Dbook82: vlc will play iso files without mounting afair
[19:23] <dbook82> ftab: maybe i'm not typeing in the right commands to mount the drive?
[19:23] <andrevanzuydam> Enverex - nvidia-settings ?
[19:23] <over_soul> And the sound I'm hearing is awful
[19:23] <Vigo> Trek: I am on (something) sorta RYO, installing a re-mix on an extra box now someone asked me to fixed, is all fun.
[19:23] <over_soul> And no surround
[19:24] <dbook82> action: no i don't but i'll go ahead and install it
[19:24] <over_soul> So please guys, I'm really in a pinch
[19:24] <progre55> tp43__: I got it working, just followed this guide here :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu | dbook82
[19:24] <ftab> dbook82, mount -t type device dir
[19:25] <tp43__> progre55, that was fast, well done
[19:25] <bcca> hi, after installing ubuntu (1st install) what is the recommended setttings to be set up for security purposes?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Over_soul: hardly a pinch, a pinch would be hangs or crashes. Try this link: http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/the-simple-way-to-get-51-surround-sound-audio-working-in-ubuntu/
[19:25] <dbook82> action: can't seem to find medibuntu anywhere
[19:25] <otswim> i've tried 'video downloadhelper' to download videos from www.livestream.com but that didn't help
[19:26] <dbook82> ftab: so for example mount -t /folder/drive?
[19:26] <pabelanger> I'm looking to get some help/information on debugging qemu-system-ppc.  Have problems getting ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04 (powerpc) within Qemu.
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Bcca: the default setup is quite secure. Just use sudo and gksu for stuff when you need and you will be fine
[19:26] <over_soul> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll check
[19:26] <torchie> I have a laptop with no hard drive— can liveCD ubuntu hibernate, sleep etc?
[19:27] <bcca> ActionParsnip: thank you
[19:27] <zbyte64> So how is it gnome can mount / umount things even though the user can't go into the command line and do a mount / umount?
[19:27] <alabd> should virt-manager be run by root/sudo only , it gives error > Unable to complete install: 'unable to connect to '/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock': Permission denied'
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Torchie: I think if you put the swap file on a usb / sd card it could
[19:27] <almoxarife> torchie: you got usb?
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Zbyte64: polkit I believe, not sure
[19:28] <Vigo> dbook82: Have you looked at or tried Mythbuntu?
[19:28] <ftab> dbook82, hang on
[19:28] <Pici> zbyte64: gnome mounts and unmounts using gvfs, which is not the same mechanism that using 'mount' uses.
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> Alabd: does the file / folder exist?
[19:28] <dbook82> vigo: no haven't heard of it
[19:29] <Pici> zbyte64: er, maybe s/gvfs/fuse/
[19:29] <ManDay> !when
[19:29] <ManDay> !lucit
[19:29] <ManDay> !lucid
[19:29] <ManDay> the TWENTYNINETH!!!!
[19:29] <ManDay> wow, thats soon
[19:29] <zbyte64> Pici: thx ;)
[19:29] <alabd> ActionParsnip, yes it wroks when virt-manager is run by sudo
[19:29] <Mike____> I've had a problem with intermittent extra mouse clicks (moving a window maximize instead) (problem selecting text) since updating to 2.6.31-20-generic last week.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1429091&highlight=click+drag+broken describes it well.  Anyone else seen this?
[19:29] <Vigo> dbook82: Is a derivative that is Canonical Recognized: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/derivatives
[19:29] <bcca> ActionParsnip: is the default mail program under ubuntu 9.10 good enough? its going to be for home use, and maybe gonna keep it running to be accessible when im away
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Alabd: then modify the file so your users have access. Backup the current file first
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Bcca: sure, if you don't like it there are alternatives
[19:30] <bcca> ActionParsnip: great, thanks again
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Bcca: I can't tell you what to like, some have evolution and prefer thunderbird or clawsmail or mutt
[19:31] <dbook82> vigo: ok let me ask this, i'm primarily a windows user but i'm trying and liking ubuntu. when i put a cd/dvd in the drive does it read automatically or do i have to mount it?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> S/have/hate
[19:31] <bcca> ActionParsnip: i see, ok.
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Dbook82: it will mount as its in /etc/fstab
[19:31] <ManDay> dbook82, it SHOULD automount it in theory...
[19:32] <ManDay> (vanilla ubuntu install)
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> Bcca: you are using an OS full of choice and possibility so i'd say try a few things
[19:32] <madjoe> bcca: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1374627
[19:32] <Vigo> dbook82: The forums are the place to look for that, could be many things, Auto-Mount enabled or stuff, but it changes with kernels and distors.
[19:32] <Aren> When booting the Karmic Live CD, with the splash and quiet disabled, I have found where my laptop chokes.  (All ACPI related boot settings disabled...)  The last line before the blinking cursor at the far right of the bottom of the screen, sharing the line with this text is: * Setting preliminary keymap ...
[19:32] <Aren> Any ideas?
[19:32] <rao> hi all
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> Aren: does the cd pass self test?
[19:33] <dbook82> action/manday: nothing i put in the drive auto mounts
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> Aren: have you tested your ram?
[19:33] <bcca> ActionParsnip: will do :)
[19:33] <ManDay> dbook82, welcome to the club
[19:33] <Aren> ActionParsnip: I can't get the CD to INITIATE a self test, though the ISO I burned from passes the MD5 check.
[19:33] <progre55> tp43__: thanks a lot for the help and attention =)
[19:33] <progre55> tp43__: appreciate
[19:33] <lalalol> guys, fbc-mx gave me some commands to uninstall all the unnecessary languages, but i wonder, should i change my country/region to the US since i wanna use US-English?
[19:33] <ManDay> dbook82, i ve got that problem with usb thumb drives
[19:33] <ManDay> but you might want to check /etc/fstab first
[19:34] <dbook82> manday: how do you get your cd/dvdrom drive to mount?
[19:34] <jugglerbry> hi all
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> Aren; have you tried disabling unnecessary hardware for the duration of the install in bios (sound, lan etc)
[19:34] <Aren> ActionParsnip: And I'm positive my RAM is ok, I can use Hardy with no issues, as I am doing right now.  I ran a selt-test with the Hardy Live CD a week ago, and zero faults.
[19:34] <ManDay> as ActionParsnip said check for noauto
[19:34] <ManDay> dbook82, manually=
[19:34] <Vigo> dbook82: What version are you using now?
[19:34] <ManDay> ?
[19:34] <dbook82> manday: karmic
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> Aren: did the iso md5 test as ok?
[19:34] <ManDay> you meant Vigo
[19:34] <jugglerbry> can anyone tell me, if i've got ubuntu lucid, and have kept it up to date, will that then become the beta or will I need to download the beta and install that ?
[19:34] <Aren> ActionParsnip: Yes, the Karmic ISO's MD5 matches the MD5 on the website.
[19:34] <dbook82> sorry, Vigo: karmis
[19:34] <roshan> can anyone tell me the name of package for curl-config
[19:34] <dbook82> karmic*
[19:35] <lalalol> guys, fbc-mx gave me some commands to uninstall all the unnecessary languages, but i wonder, should i change my country/region to the US since i wanna use US-English?
[19:35] <Vigo> dbook82: Ok, looking now for that Mount thing.
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Aren: id look at the bios then. And check the cd is burned ok in a different system
[19:35] <madjoe> bcca: it seems like there are lots of people favoring Thunderbird over Evolution... 2:1 for Thunderbird I'd say.
[19:35] <rao> can anyone help me out to setup a linux gnome desktop environment in aix unix 5.3
[19:35] <dbook82> vigo: ok thanks
[19:35] <Fexx> Nabend
[19:36] <Fexx> How can I see who is online?
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> Rao: air unix is not ubuntu
[19:36] <Vigo> dbook82: Here> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[19:36] <Aren> ActionParsnip: I have no other CPUs to test this on, and I doubt the bios settings are an issue since Hardy works, as does 3 different versions of Windows (which I still have install media for)
[19:36] <bcca> madjoe: noted. :)
[19:36] <arand> Aren: You might also want to check the md5 of the burned CD, to make sure it matches the iso, if you haven't already.
[19:36] <lalalol> guys, fbc-mx gave me some commands to uninstall all the unnecessary languages, but i wonder, should i change my country/region to the US since i wanna use US-English?
[19:36] <rao> aix unix
[19:36] <madjoe> Fexx: online - where?
[19:36] <Aren> arand: I was just thinking of doing that...the process is starting now.
[19:37] <Vigo> dbook82: I know it says USB, but it covers all media.
[19:37] <dbook82> vigo: ah i was abt to say :)
[19:37] <ManDay> while being in screen, is there a way to change the pwd?
[19:37] <Losha> rao: wow. I thought aix was gone. Like Ultrix. It's probably off-topic. Start at http://www.gnome.org/
[19:37] <ManDay> (i.e. the dir im in when opening a new screen window)
[19:38] <Vigo> dbook82: That page shows how to mount/unmout just about any medium.
[19:38]  * Aren is imaging the disc now.
[19:38] <lalalol> guys, fbc-mx gave me some commands to uninstall all the unnecessary languages, but i wonder, should i change my country/region to the US since i wanna use US-English?
[19:38] <dbook82> vigo: ok thanks i'll give it a look over
[19:39] <arand> Aren: If that turns out ok, well the presumably there's a nasty bug somewhere, and it would be appropriate to report it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/reportbug, also to get around, maybe the alternate CD might work better..
[19:39] <Losha> Hello dbook82. Haven't you been working on this for *days*?
[19:40] <lalalol> ANYONE?
[19:40] <Aren> arand: I have no luck with 'alternate' CDs...they always end up doing little more than annoy the * out of me...I may be computer-literate and a programmer, but even I get frustrated easily.
[19:40] <dbook82> losha: that would be correct
[19:41] <Losha> lalalol: not sure I understand the big deal: change it to US english and if you don't like it, change it back...
[19:41] <lalalol> ok lol
[19:41] <Vigo> dbook82: Gnome desktop?
[19:41] <dbook82> vigo: affirmative
[19:41] <Losha> dbook82: I'm sorry to hear that.
[19:42] <Vigo> dbook82: And here>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#Using%20GNOME-Mount
[19:42] <Vigo> dbook82: That is the Gnome Mount explained.
[19:42] <TimothyA> is there a shortcut in the command line to clear all log files?
[19:42] <dbook82> vigo: ill give this a try
[19:43] <magaio> Is anyone having problems with Eclipse's content assist -- where the text is black-on-black and essentially unreadable?
[19:43] <roshan> can anyone tell me the name of package for curl-config ?
[19:43] <dbook82> losha: it kills me, i just put in a usb drive and it pops up automatically, but still issues with the dvdrom drive!
[19:43] <ManDay> while being in screen, is there a way to change the pwd?
[19:43] <Vigo> dbook82: I think that page and info is what you were looking for.
[19:44] <dbook82> vigo: ok thanks, i'm looking it over now
[19:45] <bmorris> Hey everybody.  I'm trying to get an ssh tunnel working but I'm having problems.  I used ssh -NCD 9999 bmorris@my-proxy-server.com and it seems to be working but firefox just keeps returning a blank screen.  Anybody know what could be ging wrong?
[19:47] <KB1JWQ> bmorris: yES.
[19:47] <Losha> TimothyA: I doubt it, the whole point of log files is an enduring audit trail. They get rotated eventually, but not cleared too often...
[19:47] <ManDay> while being in screen, is there a way to change the pwd?
[19:47] <Losha> ManDay: the 'pwd'?
[19:47] <theadmin> ManDay: For what?
[19:47] <TimothyA> I have to clear them, orders from upstairs :/
[19:48] <KB1JWQ> bmorris: Hre's what I do.  I have a line in my ~/.ssh/config for a particular host that says DynamicForward 9999
[19:48] <TimothyA> I am not allowed to defend or question its purpose :P
[19:48] <KB1JWQ> bmorris: I establish the tunnel
[19:48] <KB1JWQ> bmorris: Then I nominate localhost:9999 as my SOCKS5 proxy in Firefox.  Done.
[19:49] <Losha> TimothyA: you can delete them all and then reboot. I'd like to know why someone thinks this is a worthwhile thing to do, though...
[19:49] <TimothyA> like I said; I don't know
[19:49] <TimothyA> and from prior experience, deleting them as opposed to clearing them creates even more headaches
[19:49] <bmorris> KB1JWQ, I set up firefox to use the localhost:9999 proxy and that seems to be half working.. When I close the tunnel it says it can't connect anymore but when the tunnel is open it just returns the blankscreen.  I believe the D flag is for dynamic forwarding
[19:49]  * Aren finishes extracting the image of his burned Karmic CD and starts comparing with MD5hash.
[19:50] <TimothyA> find /var/log -type f <-- how do I clear all the files that this returns?
[19:50] <TimothyA> I said *clear*, not delete
[19:50] <numberGrey> does anyone know why in ubuntu 9.10 /etc/event.d/ was removed and where would be and appropriate replacement location?
[19:50] <llutz> bmorris: what kind of proxy did you set in ff? it has to be socks
[19:50] <bmorris> llutz, SOCKS v5
[19:50] <Aren> Err md5sum :P
[19:50] <trism> numberGrey: /etc/event.d was for upstart right? if so, then it would be /etc/init
[19:50] <ManDay> Losha, theadmin the current directory
[19:51] <theadmin> ManDay: Uh, cd?
[19:51] <ManDay> erm
[19:51] <bobstro> bmorris:  being lazy, i just do -D port... but it should work
[19:51] <ManDay> i dont think we are talking about the same thing
[19:52] <numberGrey> trism: if its not in /etc/init/, should I create it? or am I missing a package in my server install?
[19:52] <Losha> TimothyA: fine, but if I were you, I'd back them up first before deleting. The reboot should take care of any problems with deleted files. To be absolutely sure, you probably need to rm the file, then touch it, then reboot...
[19:52] <bobstro> bmorris:  you only set SOCKS as proxy in ffox?
[19:52] <ManDay> theadmin, unknown command: cd
[19:52] <babalu> i have a weird connection problem, when i plug the ethernet cable, the green and orange green don't light up; now i was able to make it work by plugging in the cable during a sudo dhclient but i don't know what's going on
[19:52] <bmorris> bobstro, yes, just firefox
[19:52] <TimothyA> Losha; ....
[19:52] <Losha> TimothyA: and look for a new job with better management...
[19:52] <TimothyA> i said *CLEAR*, NOT *delete* :@
[19:52] <bobstro> bmorris:  i did have to make sure no OTHER proxy settings were set in ffox
[19:52] <bobstro> bmorris:  (you're not bob morris from berlin by chance?)
[19:52] <TimothyA> NULLING them, not deleting them!
[19:53] <straterra> The ubuntu installer is freezing..any way to can start it without the framebuffer to see hwy?
[19:53] <straterra> why^
[19:53] <ori> Help: How do i install this? true.combat.elite_0.49-english.run
[19:53] <trism> numberGrey: should you create what?
[19:53] <Aren> The MD5 hashes of the burned CD, the downloaded ISO, and the MD5 for the Karmic ISO as posted on the website all match.  I guess that means that Karmic just will not function on this laptop, and probably Lucid will not work either when it's released?
[19:53] <theadmin> Does the following script look correct? http://paste.ubuntu.com/399495/ - I want to run that on every system install for easy installation of stuff i need
[19:53] <llutz> TimothyA: use logrotate to take care of logfiles
[19:53] <numberGrey> the event.d/ in /etc/init/
[19:53] <erUSUL> ori: chmod +x true.combat.elite_0.49-english.run && sudo ./true.combat.elite_0.49-english.run
[19:53] <trism> numberGrey: no, I mean, /etc/event.d was renamed /etc/init
[19:53]  * TimothyA bashes his brain into a wall
[19:53] <Losha> TimothyA: sorry, someone else had better help you...
[19:53] <TimothyA> I said *clear*, not delete or logrotate >_<
[19:53] <TimothyA> CLEAR
[19:53] <Gonz_91> ehm, guys, newb question: I can't seem to be able to run the ubuntu installer on a virtualbox
[19:53] <TimothyA> CLEAR CLEAR CLEAAAAR :@
[19:53] <FloodBot4> TimothyA: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:53] <Gonz_91> ideas?
[19:53] <Pici> !patience | TimothyA
[19:53] <bmorris> bobstro, I don't think there are any other proxies.. That's the only one in the network settings.  No I'm Ben Morris from Waterloo :P
[19:54] <numberGrey> oh, so initctl shoudl find it then correct?
[19:54] <Pici> TimothyA: stop that.
[19:54] <arand> Aren: unless you report the bug, so that it might get fixed ;)
[19:54] <trism> numberGrey: yes
[19:54] <ori> erUSUL: chmod: cannot access `true.combat.elite_0.49-english.run': No such file or directory
[19:54] <Mike____> Anyone seeing annoying mouse behavior on 9.10 since last weeks update?
[19:54] <TimothyA> Pici; people stop answering me with answers which I announced that I will not accept as answers
[19:54] <numberGrey> trism: ok thanks I will give it a try
[19:54] <llutz> TimothyA: basically you have to stop the logging daemon, ">logfile" and restart daemon
[19:54] <erUSUL> ori: is the file where you are? run « ls »
[19:54] <ori> erusul: its on the desktop
[19:54] <erUSUL> ori: then do "cd Desktop" first
[19:55] <Losha> erUSUL: how do you get those fancy brackets?
[19:55] <bobstro> bmorris:  i ffox, i just have "Manual proxy configuration" set, others blank and only SOCKS Host set.
[19:55] <bobstro> bmorris:   er... IN firefox that is
[19:55] <erUSUL> Losha: AltGr + z or x ;)
[19:55] <Losha> erUSUL: thanks...
[19:55] <ori> erusul: ikek this? cd desktop chmod +x true.combat.elite_0.49-english.run && sudo ./true.combat.elite_0.49-english.run
[19:55] <Aren> arand: And in order to do that, it'd be best to have more data than I have on me, which means more struggling with the LiveCD...*sighs*  You know...I'm just going to forget about upgrading the OS.  I'll stick with Hardy...too much fragging work for too little gain.  Sorry for even asking about it.  I'm gone.
[19:55] <bobstro> bmorris:  and box you've ssh'd to connects ok to internet, right?
[19:55] <theadmin> ori: Yeah, but i've no idea why you'd run it as root. Altho if instructions say so...
[19:56]  * Aren gets out the screwdriver to change hard drives and shuts down.
[19:56] <erUSUL> ori: no linux is case sensitive --> cd Desktop && chmod +x true.combat.elite_0.49-english.run && sudo ./true.combat.elite_0.49-english.run
[19:56] <ori> theadin: its what erusul said to do
[19:56] <bmorris> bobstro, yes, it should.. wget works
[19:56] <theadmin> erUSUL: Not Linux, extFS, actually. NTFS drive is NOT case-sensetive for me :/
[19:56] <obscurant1st> somebody know a good place to talk about iATKOS?
[19:56] <bobstro> bmorris:  ok. only suggestion i have is clearing other stuff from ffox proxy settings. that bit me once.
[19:57] <ori> erusul: that did it
[19:57] <mery> k ponlmn l-jm njln
[19:57] <mery> mnlkknmklñmç
[19:57] <erUSUL> ori: no problem
[19:57] <KB1JWQ> bmorris: I've seen this before.  Does another browser that isn't Firefox work?
[19:57] <mery> oye kien ers
[19:57] <theadmin> mery: what the? Stop that.
[19:57] <erUSUL> !es | mery
[19:57] <bobstro> bmorris:  other than ssh debug that is.
[19:58] <ALCUZA> olaaa
[19:58] <bmorris> KB1JWQ, chrome doesn't work either
[19:58] <theadmin> !es | ALCUZA
[19:58] <bmorris> bobstro, I'll see if I can find any other proxy settings.  THanks for our help
[19:59] <bobstro> bmorris:  if other browser broken, i'm thinking sshd may be issue
[19:59] <ALCUZA> hello
[19:59] <ivze> Good day! I am trying to install madwifi (ath_pci) on 10.04 beta by compiling from source. The module seems to be loaded (after manually modprobe-ing it), but no network interfaces appear. Am I doing something wrong?
[19:59] <numberGrey> trism: I am getting the error "initctl: Unknown job: xxxxxx" when I try to run sudo init start xxxxxx and when the file is placed both in /etc/init/ and I tried in /etc/init.d/
[19:59] <Pretto> is there a way to check if a repository is ok? os if it is faling?
[19:59] <Losha> obscurant1st: the web page lists some forums. Their approach seems cavalier at best e.g. Q) Where can I download the iATKOS releases? A) Search around the net and you'll find it. :)   Yeah, they eat microsoft's lunch alright...
[19:59] <Myrtti> !lucid | ivze
[20:00] <bmorris> bobstro, Could you point me in the right direction to debug that?
[20:00] <bobstro> bmorris:  checking now :)
[20:00] <ori> erusul:ERROR!You need Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory version 2.60! Could not find Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory
[20:00] <Pici> TimothyA: you can cat /dev/null into your file to replace its contents with nothing
[20:00] <ori> erusul: but i have it...?
[20:00] <TimothyA> Pici; I know, which is what I'm trying to accomplish
[20:00] <obscurant1st> Losha, i have some issue whle installing
[20:00] <TimothyA> but I have no idea how to do it in bash, so I don't have to do every file by hand
[20:00] <moth_> hey room here is a quick question: i want to expand my ubuntu partition. i need to add xp partition on the ubuntu partition. could some one give me a hand about it?
[20:01] <trism> numberGrey: does the file end in .conf?
[20:01] <Losha> obscurant1st: iATKOS is so off-topic here that it isn't even funny...
[20:01] <theadmin> moth_: Have a Live CD near ya?
[20:01] <erUSUL> ori: maybe there is some way to tell the installer where it is but you will have to ask someone who have installed the game
[20:01] <Pici> TimothyA: You can use find with the  -exec  argument
[20:01] <moth_> theadmin, no i dont
[20:01] <numberGrey> trism: no, i am assuming it should if your asking
[20:01] <ori> erusul: ok thanx
[20:01] <TimothyA> and which variables?
[20:01] <theadmin> moth_: You'll most likely need one
[20:01] <ManDay> Does anyone know how to change the current directory of screen (that is, the directory in which screen opens a new screen on C-A c)
[20:01] <Pretto> i mean it, that information is not that usefull http://paste.ubuntu.com/399499/
[20:01] <theadmin> moth_: Then you can boot from it and use Gparted to do all your resizing
[20:01] <trism> numberGrey: yes, all the files must end in .conf now or upstart will ignore them
[20:01] <bobstro> bmorris:  sshd is yours?
[20:01] <erUSUL> ManDay: screen simply open a shell and shells open in home by default.
[20:02] <moth_> theadmin, does it matter 8.10 or 9.10? i have 8.10 cd but i use 9.10
[20:02] <Trek> Pretto: your internet isnt connecting to the thing, perhaps your internet is the culprit?
[20:02] <theadmin> moth_: Better boot with same version, but actually it shouldn't matter as long as you don't mess with MBR.
[20:02] <bmorris> bobstro, yes.  It's an ubuntu 8.04 box running the openssh-server package
[20:02] <ManDay> erUSUL, screen normally opens in the current directory
[20:02] <numberGrey> trism: fixed it, thank you I really appreciate your help.  I will document it so that that are resources online for the change.
[20:02] <TimothyA> it keeps saying "Missing argument to -exec" while there is an argument :|
[20:03] <ManDay> if im not mistaken...
[20:03] <erUSUL> moth_: 8.10 will probably not be able to handle ext4 paritions; you should get a 9.10 livecd
[20:03] <theadmin> moth_: But if you install Windows, it WILL mess the mbr. See my manual for dual-booting here: http://ubuntutotalnoob.blogspot.com/2010/03/getting-dual-boot-with-windows.html
[20:03] <Pretto> Trek: ok, but it only happens with that 3 ppa's, how can i know what ppa they are if i have 10 for example
[20:03] <moth_> erUSUL, yes you re right
[20:03] <Trek> Pretto, you could analyze network packet flow, but that would be a pain :P
[20:03] <Trek> Pretto, I use 9.04, so PPA's don't totally exist in there :P
[20:03] <Losha> ManDay: check the man page, look for 'chdir [directory]'
[20:03] <Eraldo> After clicking on "Tun On Bluetooth" in "Bluetooth Properties 2.28.1" nothing happens
[20:03] <Pretto> Trek: hehhhehhe.. indeed
[20:04] <bobstro> bmorris:  you might try adding '-v' (verbose) to ssh, see if it gives helpful info.
[20:04] <TimothyA> Pici: kindly help me out with this one?
[20:04] <llutz> ManDay: man screen "chdir"
[20:04] <Pici> mcurran: Looks like you can use c-A :chdir newdirectory   to control where you want new screens to start
[20:04] <moth_> theadmin, i will not install windows i will just remove it and i will enlarge the other partition
[20:04] <Eraldo> Do I need to configure anything prior to being able to start bluetooth?
[20:04] <harovali1> hi , I have a "feisty" ubuntu installation , and I'd like to install a package (dhcp3-server)  , but the repos are not active , I'd just want to know if there is a posibility of configuring correct repos, any hint ?
[20:05] <xangua> harovali1: feisty has no support, update to a more recent distro
[20:05] <Trek> Pretto: because if you use network monitoring, it will be "OMG, HERE'S THE PACKET!" and then there will be a failiure packet back to you. so yes, its painful to monitor network packet flow for this purpose, because you will have MANY MANY MANY non-relevant packets coming through at the same time :P
[20:05] <Eraldo> System: 9.10 eeePC 1005-HA-H
[20:05] <theadmin> moth_: Oh. Well, GParted is fairly easy to use, actually, you shouldn't have any trouble.
[20:05] <Pici> TimothyA: find /path/to/files -exec cat /dev/null > {} \;  (you can try with -echo instead of -exec to test, since this will be a destrictive command)
[20:05] <moth_> erUSUL, and another point grub 2 and grub will cause problems
[20:05] <Pretto> Trek: i think it will be a big pain
[20:05] <harovali1> xangua: thanks
[20:06] <Trek> Pretto: thats an understatement :P
[20:06] <Pici> mcurran: sorry, mistab
[20:06] <FireSide> does any one else have trouble getting the molecule screensaver working in 9.10? its the ONLY screensaver i can't get to show and it just so happens to be my fav. one
[20:06] <erUSUL> moth_: well if you are only resizing that shouldn't matter
[20:06] <bmorris> bobstro, doing that and then trying to access a page dumps out three lines: debug1: Connection to port 9999 forwarding to socks port 0 requested.  \  debug1: channel 2: new [dynamic-tcpip]  \  debug1: channel 2: free: dynamic-tcpip, nchannels 3
[20:06] <TimothyA> -echo doesn't exist :|
[20:06] <Pici> ManDay: Looks like you can use c-A :chdir newdirectory   to control where you want new screens to start
[20:06] <TimothyA> "Invalid predicate -echo "
[20:06] <Losha> Pici: add -type f to that, since I don't know what it will do to directories...
[20:06] <WAawaawEE> Need help with crontab -> http://pastebin.com/CqxUEtgm     <[20:06] <TimothyA> I already did -type f
[20:07] <moth_> erUSUL, but after resizing it windows part will be removed and grub2 is installed at the beginning of this part
[20:07] <TimothyA> find /var/log -echo cat /dev/null > {} \;
[20:07] <Pici> TimothyA: sorry, its -exec echo cat /etc
[20:07] <erUSUL> moth_: why is not installed in mbr?
[20:07] <Pici> TimothyA: or whatever.
[20:07] <theadmin> WAawaawEE: You have -r in wrong place. It has to go like cp -r path1 path2, not cp path1 -r path2
[20:07] <WAawaawEE> ah
[20:07] <TimothyA> didn't print anything
[20:07] <WAawaawEE> should that fix all the issues?
[20:07] <moth_> erUSUL, is it?
[20:08] <theadmin> WAawaawEE: Likely
[20:08] <harovali1> xangua: what happens if I put recent repos and try to install dhcp3-server in feisty ?
[20:08] <Losha> WAawaawEE: I'm not sure $HOME is set in cron. Try echoing the actual command lines instead of just the pretty comments
[20:08] <Trek> moth_ yes, grub goes onto the mbr, not the windows partition :P\
[20:08] <erUSUL> moth_: grub2 is installed at the beginning of this  part
[20:08] <xangua> harovali1: bad idea
[20:08] <erUSUL> moth_: grub2 is installed at the beginning of this  part (windows one) or is in mbr ?
[20:08] <moth_> i guess it is in the mbr
[20:09] <Losha> theadmin: oops, didn't notice the -r booboo
[20:09] <theadmin> Losha: :D
[20:09] <oberdada> hello ubuntu gurus.  I have a desktop with ubuntu 8.10.  I bought one of those SD/mini/etc. card readers, you know, the ones that plug in to some usb port on the motherboard... The problem is that the SD cards mount in read-only mode. How can i fix this?
[20:09] <elb0w> *.* is valid linux?
[20:09] <erUSUL> moth_: then you shouldn't need to touch it
[20:09] <theadmin> elb0w: Yep, that works usually
[20:09] <maco> elb0w: yes, matches anything that has a . in its name
[20:09] <TimothyA> find /var/log -type f -exec cat /dev/null > {} \; it doesn't do anything :|
[20:09] <elb0w> yeah that was weird one of my os's is complaining
[20:09] <ManDay> Losha, llutz, Pici thanks
[20:09] <elb0w> lol
[20:10] <elb0w> I assumed that
[20:10] <elb0w> dunno what I just typed hahaha
[20:10] <moth_> Trek, erUSUL i was thinking mbr is in this part thanks for informing me about it
[20:10] <erUSUL> TimothyA: the redirection
[20:10] <LocutusOfBorg> is there a way to see what commands are being typed by the same user on a different terminal?
[20:10] <bobstro> bmorris:  ah... i'm remembering...
[20:10] <TimothyA> erUSUL: redirection?
[20:10] <elb0w> histroy
[20:10] <elb0w> LocutusOfBorg, type history
[20:10] <bobstro> bmorris:  there was an issue with DNS and firefox with proxy. can you try opening  a page by ip address instead of dns name?
[20:11] <erUSUL> TimothyA: find /var/log -type f -exec sh -c 'cat /dev/null > "$1"' _ {} \;
[20:11] <TimothyA> what's the sh -c for?
[20:11] <erUSUL> TimothyA: you can not use a compound (with a redirection) command in an exec statement afaik
[20:11] <bobstro> bmorris:  probably NOT your exact problem but worth a check.
[20:11] <oberdada> oh and by the way, the write-protect notch on the SD card is ok
[20:11] <theadmin> What's that {} \; at the end of every find command i see?
[20:11] <bmorris> bobstro, That returns a blank page as well.  Dump is also the same
[20:11] <erUSUL> TimothyA: to run te shell (dash in ubuntu) with that string as argument
[20:11] <bobstro> theadmin:  that's substituted with the found filename
[20:11] <Losha> TimothyA:  find /var/log -type f -exec cat /dev/null > '{}' \; <--- Added single quotes around {}
[20:11] <iceroot> TimothyA: Read commands from the command_string operand   see also man sh
[20:12] <llutz> theadmin: man find ({} = find result, + quoted end of command ;)
[20:12] <TimothyA> Losha; thank you
[20:12] <TimothyA> ...still nothing
[20:12] <theadmin> llutz: Confusing stuff
[20:13] <theadmin> Losha: What's the point of cat /dev/null? o_O
[20:13] <LocutusOfBorg> Trek: may I message you?
[20:13] <elb0w> It was sort of funny putting the wall command in an infinite loop at my old school
[20:13] <erUSUL> TimothyA: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind
[20:13] <bobstro> bmorris:  hmm. i usually "just works". can you test against internal address? any chance of content filter/firewall between 8.04 server and internet?
[20:14] <eclesia> hello
[20:14] <erUSUL> TimothyA: this should be enough --> find /var/log -type f -exec sh -c '> "$1"' _ '{}' \;
[20:14] <progre55> eclesia: hi =)
[20:14] <Losha> theadmin: to truncate a file you can do 'cat /dev/null > filename'. It should produce a zero length file. The tricky part is getting find to exec what is actually a shell command...
[20:15] <bobstro> bmorris:  try another port?
[20:15] <theadmin> Losha: Hm, but why not, say "rm filename && touch filename"?... altho that's two commands
[20:15] <bmorris> bobstro, internal gives a blank page as wel.. I'll try another port
[20:16] <Losha> theadmin: that works too. I suggested it to TimothyA about 15 minutes ago, but he insisted that he wanted to 'clear' the files, not 'delete' them, at which point I confess I gave up...
[20:17] <eclesia> could someone give me a little help. I am trying to kick out Evolution from my ubuntu. but when I try to remove it from synaptic it says it will remove ubuntu-desktop. is that dangerous ?
[20:17] <ajeffri> TimothyA: You might also try echo -n "" > filename
[20:17] <theadmin> Losha: :/ same thing would be :/
[20:17] <llutz> theadmin: deleting logfiles while syslogd runs, can cause problems
[20:17] <Losha> llutz: I agree, but a reboot should take care of that...
[20:17] <Trek> LocutusOfBorg: why?
[20:18] <Du57> hi everybody
[20:18] <Trek> THZone: why?
[20:18] <theadmin> eclesia: No, it's a metapackage for much of ubuntu stuff but deleting it itself does not remove any of... stuff. No idea why it depends on evolution.
[20:18] <llutz> Losha: rebooting for logfile changes? m)
[20:18] <Du57> who knows hot to use telnet via ubuntu to send fake mails?
[20:18] <bmorris> bobstro, ah there we go!  The different port did it
[20:18] <bmorris> Thanks a lot for your help!
[20:19] <bobstro> bmorris:  no idea WHY but hey, it works
[20:19] <Losha> llutz: well as you say, deleting logfiles while syslogd runs can cause problems
[20:19] <oberdada> hello ubuntu gurus. I have a desktop with ubuntu 8.10. I bought one of those SD/mini/etc. card readers, you know, the ones that plug in to some usb port on the motherboard... The problem is that the SD cards mount in read-only mode. How can i fix this?
[20:19] <eclesia> theadmin: ok thanks. anyone now why the pidgin packages are broken in synaptic by the way ?
[20:19] <Out_Cold> Du57, that doesn't sound like ubuntu support on-topic stuff
[20:19] <eclesia> know*
[20:19] <llutz> Losha: that why i use logrotate
[20:19] <llutz> Du57: http://www.yuki-onna.co.uk/email/smtp.html
[20:19] <Du57> does anyone knows how to use telnet on ubuntu?????
[20:19] <theadmin> eclesia: They're old. I can tell you how to fix it.
[20:20] <Losha> llutz: take it up with TimothyA. I've been there, said that, and was told it was unsatisfactory. Some people just won't be helped...
[20:20] <llutz> Losha: me too, so i decided to ignore
[20:20] <eclesia> theadmin: I'm just going to download it, i was just wondering if this was just a missing repository or something like that
[20:21] <theadmin> eclesia: Here. Took the instructions from their site. http://paste.ubuntu.com/399509/
[20:21] <eclesia> theadmin: thanks again
[20:21] <theadmin> eclesia: As far as i'm aware, Pidgin isn't distributed for Karmic because they're trying to make us use empathy
[20:21] <enzo_> !list
[20:22] <theadmin> eclesia: By Ubuntu people, that is
[20:22] <brimestone> hey guys, im having issue with ZFS, i have a Volume (ZFS) and i created a test file on it then reboot... but after boot the file is gone
[20:22] <eclesia> theadmin: yes I know that. I don't like both empathy and evolution. so I'm kicking them out :D (Just reinstalled my pc)
[20:22] <arathald> could anyone tell me how to get japanese input working on ubuntu, or link me to something that walks me through it? I've tried maybe 6 different ways with no luck -- there's too many possible ways to do it, and most seem broken
[20:23] <WAawaawEE> Need help with crontab -> http://pastebin.com/Rdx9CVF7      <[20:23] <theadmin> eclesia: LOL same here... I haz script to remove empathy, evolution, rhythmbox, totem and ubuntu one, and install Pidgin, VLC and newest version of Firefox
[20:23] <WAawaawEE> =[[[[[
[20:23] <Losha> llutz: one of the privileges of *volunteer* support. You can pick and choose...
[20:23] <Fu_Manchu> i had xubuntu on the old pc, then i couldn't figure out how to add apps to the panel, so i installed ubuntu on it, too
[20:23] <saket99991> when is next version cumin
[20:23] <eclesia> theadmin: good choice, exept I use Opera ^^
[20:24] <theadmin> saket99991: April 29th, 2010
[20:24] <llutz> WAawaawEE: replace $HOME with absolute pathes
[20:24] <saket99991> hmm...:)
[20:24] <guntbert> Du57: what is your problem?
[20:24] <Fu_Manchu> i like gnome better than xfce, i guess
[20:24] <Du57> i want to use telnet
[20:24] <Du57> but i dunno how
[20:25] <arathald> theadmin: i saw '2010', and my initial reaction was that it was really far away... I think I still haven't rolled over to the 21st century
[20:25] <rall> hi guys!  how to run startupscripts before user logging on?  I have tried the rc.local  but that does not work
[20:25] <ev0> any got an idea where i might find the packages for 7.04?
[20:25] <root> hi
[20:25] <erUSUL> !telnet
[20:25] <llutz> WAawaawEE: further: Backing up files in / (root)"  cp -r $HOME/html/*.* $HOME/html/_file_backups/dailyback/          <- that should work? it will end in a endless loop
[20:25] <theadmin> arathald: o_O lol
[20:25] <llutz> Du57: i gave you a link, read
[20:25] <Du57> how can i use ssh?
[20:25] <arathald> does anyone know how to get japanese input working on ubuntu 9.10?
[20:25] <erUSUL> ev0: that version is not supported anymore- install a newer supported version
[20:25] <Resistol> is there any way to boot ubuntu livecd using another graphics server?
[20:25] <erUSUL> !ssh | Du57
[20:25] <WAawaawEE> okay let me try :P
[20:25] <WAawaawEE> thanks llutz
[20:25] <ev0> well im using it for secuirty testing purposes
[20:25] <snow_> hi
[20:26] <ev0> secuirty*
[20:26] <Resistol> i keep getting blank screens using 8.1,  9.1, 10.04
[20:26] <snow_> hohi
[20:26] <snow_> hi
[20:26] <Du57> thanks everybody
[20:26] <snow_> Where is the file xorg.conf in the new ubuntu ?
[20:26] <Fu_Manchu> i like ubuntu 9.04 better than ubuntu 9.10
[20:26] <llutz> WAawaawEE: what do you think your $HOME refers to?
[20:26] <ev0> somewhere has the packages i imagine. just cant find them ;\
[20:26] <almoxarife> WAawaawEE: I have been using 'sbackup' for 2 yrs aprx, I am sure there are other apps avail, I can say though that what you are trying to do is easily done by 'sback' with very little setup needed.
[20:26] <erUSUL> ev0: repos are moved to old-relases.ubuntu.com
[20:26] <Du57> is sending fake emails legal?
[20:26] <Resistol> actually 10.04 gives me a purple gradient background after a boot sequence... with an empty white square in the middle
[20:26] <WAawaawEE> cp -r $HOME/html/*.* $HOME/html/_file_backups/dailyback/       <== i did this because
[20:26] <theadmin> Resistol: Sounds like an X problem, try hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1 and see if a terminal comes up
[20:26] <WAawaawEE> i dont want it to backup ALL SUBFOLERS in root
[20:26] <Fu_Manchu> the sound quality seemed better on ubuntu 9.04 than on 9.10
[20:26] <erUSUL> Du57: ask a lawyer; IANAL
[20:26] <WAawaawEE> just the files
[20:26] <theadmin> snow_: Ubuntu does not use xorg.conf
[20:27] <llutz> WAawaawEE: $HOME is not /
[20:27] <Resistol> ok theadmin, what do i do next if i get a terminal?
[20:27] <oberdada> hello, I have a desktop with ubuntu 8.10. I bought one of those SD/mini/etc. card readers, you know, the ones that plug in to some usb port on the motherboard... The problem is that the SD cards mount in read-only mode. How can i fix this?
[20:27] <Losha> Du57: depends what's in them. Try sending threatening emails to the US president and see how soon you get a visit...
[20:27] <llutz> WAawaawEE: depending on the user running the cronjob it will be /root/  or /home/<user>/
[20:27] <snow_> theadmin, where can i set the resolution for my monitor ?
[20:27] <theadmin> Resistol: Well, if you do then we at least know it boots :/ Try to see if any drivers are provided by manufacturer
[20:27] <theadmin> snow_: System -> Preferences -> Display?!
[20:28] <almoxarife> WAawaawEE: I forgot the best part of 'sbackup' it has a gui
[20:28] <Intertricity> So I'm no expert or anything, but I'm assuming this is not a good thing.. :P -> http://privatepaste.com/download/5ebb8bae35
[20:28] <snow_> theadmin, I use fluxbox ;)
[20:28] <bobstro> Du57:  even if not illegal, it can be a firing or expulsion offense
[20:28] <theadmin> snow_: Oh my, no idea
[20:28] <Losha> Du57: no, I won't teach you how to send fake emails. Go and read about SMTP if you must...
[20:28] <almoxarife> Intertricity: I think you are right
[20:29] <Intertricity> almoxarife, is that thing essentially telling me every block of my ram is dead?
[20:29] <llutz> WAawaawEE:  "cp -r $HOME/html/*.* $HOME/html/_file_backups/dailyback/"  will copy recursive all below /html/ so it will copy /html/_file.../ again and again and ...
[20:29] <WAawaawEE> im on stupid godaddy hosting hah
[20:29] <bobstro> Intertricity:  yes, CRT screens are bad :)
[20:29] <Fu_Manchu> gparted seems like a good partition editor to use
[20:29] <WAawaawEE> okay let me try that :P
[20:29] <WAawaawEE> thanks
[20:29] <Intertricity> bobstro, not the crt xD
[20:29] <almoxarife> Intertricity: I am no hardware guru, but it looks like that is damage that software won't make go away
[20:30] <Intertricity> almoxarife, just checking, hehe
[20:30] <Resistol> theadmin, how do i go about checking for drivers?
[20:30] <theadmin> Resistol: Try browsing the web for them, the best i can suggest. Do you know what your videocard is?
[20:31] <Trek> Resistol: System > Adminstration > Hardware Drivers for starters, it lists the updated drivers for proprietary cards (ATI, NVIDIA)
[20:31] <theadmin> Trek: He can't start X
[20:31] <Fu_Manchu> a lot of utilties for backups and restores use linux live cd technology to get the job done
[20:31] <bobstro> Intertricity:  check for proper installation etc... but yeah not good
[20:31] <Trek> theadmin: ohhhh...
[20:31] <Sa[i]nT> How do I get the stuff that ubuntu studio has on it? Is there a repo for that?
[20:31] <Losha> Intertricity: you have bad RAM (or just possibly, a bad motherboard). If it's still under warranty, return it...
[20:31] <Madwill> if i would like to make something that would popUp a tiny windows showing a user what is he's ip and some other information what language should i build that ?
[20:31] <WAawaawEE> http://pastebin.com/RMMFbz8G maybe this will work
[20:31] <WAawaawEE> lol
[20:31] <Trek> Resistol / theadmin: i guess you'll have to search the interwebz then
[20:31] <Madwill> i need it to start on startup
[20:31] <Madwill> can i use python or something
[20:31] <Intertricity> Losha, you think the motherboard will fry the ram if I try putting new ram in? It's a PCCHIPS board..
[20:32] <Resistol> theadmin, ATI Radeon XPress 200M IGP
[20:32] <llutz> WAawaawEE: what do you think/expect your $HOME refers to?
[20:32] <Resistol> could i get it from the terminal?
[20:32] <llutz> expands
[20:32] <theadmin> Resistol: Hm, have an ATI too, worked outta the box :/ No idea about this one though
[20:32] <erUSUL> Sa[i]nT: there is abunch of ubuntustudio-* packages on the repos
[20:32] <Trek> Resistol: sounds a bit older, whats the specs on your system in terms of age
[20:32] <Losha> Intertricity: it's possible, though unlikely, although a bad PSU can fry everything. Can you try the bad ram in another mobo instead maybe?
[20:33] <Resistol> it's probably 4-5 years old, intel celeron m, 512mb ram
[20:33] <Fu_Manchu> ubuntu tweak is a good tweaker for ubuntu
[20:33] <Resistol> Trek, it's probably 4-5 years old, intel celeron m, 512mb ram
[20:33] <Trek> resistol: ah, you're not likely to easily find nix drivers for those then, in my opinion.  you'll be doing a lot of searching
[20:33] <Intertricity> Losha, I tried my ram in my G/F's board and the board just beepcoded that it was dead
[20:33] <Intertricity> Losha, so I'm tihnking it's just the ram- the psu is a brand new thermaltake
[20:34] <Eraldo>  I can not enable bluetooth via bluetooth-applet in gnome Ubuntu NBR 9.10 on EeePc 1005-HA-H ...pressing "Turn On Bluetooth" does nothing!
[20:34] <Eraldo> Is that a known bug?
[20:34] <antivirtel> who uses Google Chrome on ubuntu ?
[20:34] <arathald> antivirtel: i do
[20:34] <Eraldo> could not find it in google
[20:34] <antivirtel> arathald can you turn it on: http://imagerz.com/QENPUEtvAwJVVA5LRQVQ ?
[20:34] <Fu_Manchu> i have google chrome beta on the ubuntu pc
[20:34] <\ottizen> I installed "resolvconf". What can I use it for?
[20:34] <antivirtel> (this is a firefox img)
[20:34] <FireSide> antivirtel: i do... occasionally
[20:35] <antivirtel> http://imagerz.com/QENPUEtvAwJVVA5LRQVQ <-- this option in chrome ?
[20:35] <\ottizen> i: Hej :P
[20:35] <\ottizen> i: /join #ubuntu.se
[20:36] <Fu_Manchu> is on a windows xp pro laptop but knows about ubuntu, somewhat
[20:36] <Trek> resistol: your card was released on November 8, 2004, you might try checking on the ATI site first off
[20:36] <Trek> resistol: sometimes they have linux drivers there
[20:37] <antivirtel> noone ? http://imagerz.com/QENPUEtvAwJVVA5LRQVQ
[20:37] <rajenbali> hey guys, I have just installed ubunutu 9.10 on my hp compaq nx9010 and itz running so so slowly, any suggestions to make it a bit faster? :(
[20:37] <Trek> resistol: try using w3m, thats the internet browser of the terminal (if you have it)
[20:37] <Trek> rajenhali: specs on the laptop, please
[20:37] <Resistol> thanks guys
[20:37] <arathald> antivirtel: hrm? i don't understand
[20:38] <zvacet> !clone
[20:38] <antivirtel> ahh
[20:38] <antivirtel> fck
[20:38] <Trek> !language | antivirtel
[20:38] <rajenbali> Trek itz a borrowed computer from my friend so I can't check it, any way to do it on ubuntu
[20:38] <antivirtel> arathald: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=17689
[20:38] <antivirtel> this is a bug :S:S:S
[20:38] <Trek> rajenbali: you can't tell me the info on the computer?  amount of RAM, processor, etc.?  fine, I'll just google it standby
[20:38] <C4p4bl4nc4> alguem ae do Brasil?
[20:38] <C4p4bl4nc4> hihihi
[20:39] <rajenbali> Cheers, thanks
[20:39] <Fu_Manchu> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[20:39] <guntbert> !br | C4p4bl4nc4
[20:39] <Eraldo> I can not enable bluetooth via bluetooth-applet in gnome Ubuntu NBR 9.10 on EeePc 1005-HA-H ...pressing "Turn On Bluetooth" does nothing!
[20:39] <Trek> rajenbali: ohhh... its one of THOSE systems that are a bit older... um...
[20:40] <Trek> rajenbali: define slow please
[20:40] <arathald> ant`read comments 12 and 15
[20:40] <arathald> antivirtel: read comments 12 and 15
[20:40] <rajenbali> well, the windows take a lot of time to open, firefox approximately 10 secs, any way to speed it up a bit
[20:41] <arathald> if anyone is interested, the following works to enable japanese input; it's new since last time I tried (within 2 weeks): http://kenno.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/enable-japanese-input-on-debianubuntu/
[20:41] <rajenbali> Most of the times the programs just freeze and I have to wait half a minute for it to start again
[20:41] <Trek> rajenbali: not without reformatting the disc, and if its borrowed, you'd need permission first :P
[20:41] <Trek> rajenbali: are desktop effects enabled?  if they are turn them off
[20:41] <A71KR117> why?
[20:41] <rajenbali> the disk is formatted, I did a fresh install an hour ago
[20:41] <A71KR117> why should we turn off compiz?
[20:42] <Trek> rajenbali: i assume you're using gnome.  that takes up resources.  what I meant by reformat is, "Try Xubuntu first"
[20:42] <rajenbali> My hp dv9000 broke last week so my friend has given this to me as charity, so itz mine until I break it
[20:42] <Trek> rajenbali: Xubuntu is a little bit more light weight
[20:42] <rall> Anyone knows how to run startupscripts in ubuntu?  Need to run a script before anyones logging on..
[20:42] <antivirtel> arathald :D
[20:42] <A71KR117> yeah, but i like GNOME for its features and UI.
[20:42] <rajenbali> Ok, well I haven't used it before, is it as user friendly as ubuntu
[20:42] <antivirtel> I must download the source :D
[20:42] <A71KR117> yes
[20:42] <antivirtel> and make the diff
[20:42] <Trek> A71KR117, direct comments toward someone please
[20:43] <antivirtel> then make the program :S: S
[20:43] <rajenbali> also is there any way to shift to xubuntu from ubuntu without burning any cds
[20:43] <rajenbali> I am sick of asking favours off friends
[20:44] <willa> Can I safely install Ubuntu 9.10 for 64 bit over Ubuntu 9.04 for 32 bit?
[20:44] <Trek> rajenbali: write to a USB stick with UNetbootin or USB startup disc creator?
[20:44] <Eraldo> I can not enable bluetooth via bluetooth-applet in gnome Ubuntu NBR 9.10 on EeePc 1005-HA-H ...pressing "Turn On Bluetooth" does nothing!
[20:44] <Sa[i]nT> There is no difference between ubuntu and xubuntu except one has gnome and one has xfce.
[20:44] <Trek> rajenbali: you'll need either a LiveCD or a LiveUSB, so not really
[20:45] <rajenbali> Hmm....and is it similar to ubuntu
[20:45] <manowar3> willa, your machine needs to be 64bit for that
[20:45] <Sa[i]nT> rajenbali: Just install the gnome desktop.
[20:45] <Eraldo> "sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start" does not work either!
[20:45] <sage_> is there a way to bind a certain terminal command to a keystroke without the terminal window being active
[20:45] <Trek> Sa[i]nT, xfce takes up less resources, no?  it runs supersmooth on a really old system I have
[20:45] <rajenbali> How do I do that?
[20:45] <Eraldo> can someone please help me get bluetooth runnung?
[20:45] <rall> rajenbali: if you want xubuntu for light,,  i think you should try to deactivate some gnome bells and whistles first,, and additionally take away lots of startup-programs :)
[20:45] <manowar3> willa, if you installed the 32bit version before i suppose your machine is a 32bit machine
[20:45] <bobstro> rajenbali:  you could just install xubuntu-desktop if you have sufficient disk space
[20:46] <rajenbali> guys, sorry for being a pain, but am a complete noob here, most of the stuff you guys are saying would be appreciated with a bit of explanation
[20:46] <Sa[i]nT> rajenbali: sudo apt-get install gnome-core
[20:46] <willa> It is, but when I installed 9.04 last summer I set up a dual boot w/Vista (due to iPhone & Skype) with Ubuntu as the primary, at 3 not 4
[20:46] <bobstro> rajenbali:  you can select from several desktops with ubuntu
[20:46] <willa> I am a slow typer. My machine is a dual boot 64 bit
[20:46] <sanidhya1> can ubuntu and fedora be booted dual
[20:46] <A71KR117> Is the Lucid Beta any faster? How long does it take to boot?
[20:46] <bobstro> rajenbali:  ubuntu defaults to gnome, xubuntu to xfce. you can have both.
[20:47] <sage_> I have a iphone and I don't dual boot
[20:47] <Sa[i]nT> rajenbali: ubuntu is the base, xubuntu is ubuntu that uses xfce, kubuntu is ubuntu that has kde, all of which you can readily get whichever ubuntu you use.
[20:47] <rajenbali> ok so I just installed gnome core, how is it supposed to work now?
[20:47] <sage_> install ubuntu then install xfce
[20:47] <sage_> switch sessions..
[20:48] <sage_> logout
[20:48] <sage_> and swithc in sessions
[20:48] <sage_> switch
[20:48] <pale_1> hello i need to recover exact file gtlrc,, try with foremost and scalpel but they aren't able to recover file by it's name only by type!!!!!HELP PLEASE
[20:48] <rajenbali> logout and log back in?
[20:48] <rajenbali> Is there a switch button somewhere
[20:48] <rajenbali> ?
[20:48] <zoug> can any one help with my crontabs? its not working.. :(
[20:49] <bobstro> rajenbali:  how much ram on this thing?
[20:49] <sage_> rajenbali,  logout toggle your name and below there is a sessions bar click it and go to desired session
[20:49] <rajenbali> i think hardly a GB , 986mb if I am not wrong
[20:49] <sage_> os[Linux 2.6.31-20-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "karmic" 9.10] cpu[8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         920  @ 2.67GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz] mem[Physical: 2.9GB, 77.0% free] disk[Total: 1.8TB, 79.6% free] video[nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[20:50] <Sa[i]nT> rajenbali: If you want the entire gnome if you find that you like gnome. sudo apt-get install gnome-*
[20:50] <rajenbali> what exactly is a gnome?
[20:50] <Sa[i]nT> rajenbali: The one that is ram intensive is KDE.
[20:50] <Darkyyy> a mdiget
[20:50] <Sa[i]nT> rajenbali: The sexiest midget in town.
[20:50] <sage_> Darkyyy,  haha
[20:50] <Darkyyy> gnome is a midget who wear red tippy had
[20:50] <pale_1> anyone know hot to recover deleted files???????
[20:50] <Purpley> What is a good password cracker for .7z files? Something that supports multiple cores
[20:50] <Purpley> and is fast
[20:51] <zoug> pale_1, try testdisk
[20:51] <rajenbali> hehe.....I guess that can be me
[20:51] <Trek> !illegal | Purpley
[20:51] <Sa[i]nT> Cracking 7z... lol. Goodluck.
[20:51] <pale_1> zoug, is he able to recover file by his formal name not by extension
[20:51] <Darkyyy> password cracker is legal
[20:51] <Darkyyy> it's for recovery
[20:51] <teknofonix> lost my windows min/max/close buttons  - didn't realise had to unmaximise window......doh!
[20:51] <zoug> pale_1, yeah
[20:51] <rajenbali> ok lemme try to logout and switch sessions if I can
[20:51] <bobstro> or forensics
[20:51] <rajenbali> Or I'll be back
[20:52] <Sa[i]nT> rajenbali: Once it is installed, there should be a button at the login screen called "sessions", click that and select "Gnome" and login.
[20:52] <rajenbali> :(
[20:52] <rajenbali> ok
[20:52] <Trek> Darkyyy, yes, but how would I know he's using it for legal purposes?
[20:52] <rajenbali> Everything will be the same right?
[20:52] <Purpley> ubottu, That isn't piracy my stupid friend zipped a file and forgot to give me the password and I can't contact him
[20:52] <zoug> pale_1, it can recover extension specific files too
[20:52] <rajenbali> I mean I don't have to type commands or something right?
[20:52] <Purpley> Or whoever called ubottu
[20:52] <Darkyyy> he haven't stated otherwise
[20:52] <Darkyyy> so he can talk about it here
[20:52] <nicolix> ciao
[20:53] <Trek> Darkyyy, i'm a tech, so whatever, when I see someone mention password cracking, my tech nature kicks in
[20:53] <pale_1> zoug, because i deleted gtkrc file from my theme, i need it to recover
[20:53] <FireSide> haha theres the quote of the day "please don't think I'm intelligent"
[20:53] <Darkyyy> lol ok Trek
[20:53] <over_soul> Hi all, again
[20:53] <willa> manowar3, my 9.04 got corrupted last month and I need to upgrade or reload. I've downloaded the ISO for 9.10, but decided to go for the 64 bit this go round. Just want to make sure all my stuff will be upgraded not wiped.
[20:53] <over_soul> And again - I'm coming with a problem
[20:53] <Wubuntu> Hi,...i cannot log into Freenode or Ubuntu XChat rooms with Lucid Lynx. Can someone please assist me with this problem?
[20:54] <sandbu> anyone know of any good "top" alternativ for networking?
[20:54] <over_soul> I still can't install Creative X-Fi drivers under Ubuntu Studio
[20:54] <over_soul> Please help me
[20:54] <llutz> sandbu: iftop
[20:54] <over_soul> It makes error on make
[20:54] <guntbert> !lucid | Wubuntu
[20:54] <zoug> pale_1, possibilities are less cause the file is in the system partition, there are several read writes which consumes the space which gtkrc once used..
[20:54] <manowar3> willa, you can't install the 64bit version on a 32bit CPU, you'll have to get the 9.10 ISO for 32bit
[20:54] <zoug> pale_1, but its worth trying once..
[20:55] <over_soul> it says that there are missing files O_o which is impossible
[20:55] <bobstro> sandbu:  for your local machine?
[20:55] <willa> I have a dual core with 64 bit processor
[20:55] <A71KR117> !karmic | Wubuntu
[20:55] <over_soul> So, please, if someone can help and is willing to help, if it's possible, can this someone contact me in a private msg?
[20:55] <A71KR117> !hardy |wubuntu
[20:55] <manowar3> willa, so how come you had 9.04 for 32 bit?
[20:55] <sandbu> bobstro: no, a ubuntu box I keep in another room
[20:56] <A71KR117> !lts | Wubuntu
[20:56] <willa> I read some stuff in the forum that made it sound like the 64 version wouldn't support everything I needed
[20:56] <Trek> !botabuse | A71KR117
[20:57] <manowar3> willa, i don't know, i never dealt with the 64 version
[20:57] <willa> Thanks for replying!
[20:58] <Trek> willa: everything the basic person needs is in the 32bit version, which works with every processor in exsistance (save for the new Intel i7)
[20:58] <over_soul_> Wow... I'm surprised how little useful information is there about this problem
[20:58] <rajenbali> sa{i}nt
[20:58] <rajenbali> still here?
[20:59] <over_soul_> So, is there anyone who can help?
[20:59] <Trek> over_soul_, restate problem please?
[20:59] <guntbert> over_soul_: in one line please
[20:59] <willa> Well, I seem to not be using the full processing potential of my machine by sticking w/ 32 bit when I have a 64 bit processor.
[20:59] <over_soul_> Trek: I can't install the Creative X_Fi driver
[20:59] <rajenbali> ok guys so I installed gnome and it still didn't help
[20:59] <rajenbali> anyone can help me out here?
[20:59] <Fu_Manchu> cya
[21:00] <Trek> over_soul_ okay, details?
[21:00] <over_soul_> Trek: It makes error in make - it says that some of the files are missing, but they are not missing
[21:00] <Resistol> is there a way to boot the livecd using another graphics server?  x isn't working for me
[21:00] <rajenbali> Anyone?
[21:00] <Trek> over_soul_ pastebin the output of the command please?
[21:01] <over_soul_> Trek: I'm somewhat new to linux... How to do that?
[21:01] <guntbert> !pastebin | over_soul_
[21:01] <kubanc> is thre any default pdf program that is automaticly installed on ubuntu 9.10
[21:01] <basix> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/532633 What is wrong wit the designers?
[21:02] <Trek> Resistol: run the make command in the terminal (which I assume you did), then select all the output, go to the edit menu, select copy, and paste it to pastebin.com.  and give me the link it sends you to after it pastes it
[21:02] <basix> sorry wrong channel!
[21:02] <bobstro> sandbu: ntop and others will monitor that box
[21:03] <rajenbali> Guys, I don't know if itz alright to ask this here or not, but does anyone have an extra laptop lying around their place? I am a student in need and would pay postage. Chat moderators don't take this the wrong way, I am just asking! My situation is really that bad!!! :(
[21:03] <bobstro> kubanc:  document viewer (evince) is pdf reader. yes.
[21:03] <Resistol> trek sorry i gotta run i'll try again later thanks man
[21:03] <over_soul_> Trek: here's the paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/399531/
[21:03] <willa> Trek: Your advice is to stick with 32 bit. And, it's been fine since August. I do run a local server, but am, as you put it, a basic user. So, Thanks for the advice.
[21:03] <Mark^> Hello, after I updated/upgraded my ubuntu in couple of minutes, my OS crashed, so I restarted my machine and now its giving me this error while booting "[2.995248] Kernal panic not syncing : VFC : Unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(8,6).. Anyone could help me out please?
[21:04] <rajenbali> Guys, I don't know if itz alright to ask this here or not, but does anyone have an extra laptop lying around their place? I am a student in need and would pay postage. Chat moderators don't take this the wrong way, I am just asking! My situation is really that bad!!! :(
[21:04] <Sentynel> Okay, if I have a line in fstab with the following options: "auto,exec,rw,suid,user", why is that partition listed in mtab with "rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev"?
[21:04] <Trek> willa: no problem
[21:05] <rajenbali> Guys, I don't know if itz alright to ask this here or not, but does anyone have an extra laptop lying around their place? I am a student in need and would pay postage. Chat moderators don't take this the wrong way, I am just asking! My situation is really that bad!!! :(
[21:05] <new_to_linux> Hello, i need to intall a taz.gz file. I tried help using webpages but did not work. Please help
[21:06] <Trek> over_soul_: the error is that there's errors in the commands within files, so the files might be corrupt, verify the version of the driver
[21:06] <ardchoille> rajenbali: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:06] <Trek> !ot | rajenbali
[21:06] <over_soul_> new_to_linux, try tar -xvzf name_of_tar.tar.bz
[21:07] <kubanc> what's the default port number for enabling remote detkop in ubuntu 9.10
[21:07] <over_soul_> Trek: how to verify that?
[21:07] <rajenbali> how do i go to ubuntu offtopic from here?
[21:07] <over_soul_> Trek: About corrupt files... I don't know how can that be - I downloaded them from creative's main site
[21:07] <ardchoille> rajenbali: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:08] <over_soul_> Trek: downloaded them twice....
[21:08] <new_to_linux> over_soul_: done
[21:08] <guntbert> over_soul_: did you read and follow the instructions? (usually README and INSTALL)
[21:09] <Trek> ohh, its a Creative sound driver
[21:09] <new_to_linux> over_soul_: thanks.. this step seemed to work, what would be the next step?
[21:09] <sterz> hi
[21:09] <over_soul_> guntbert: yup... I did...
[21:09] <sterz> i have lucid-partner repo enabled but still cannot install acroread?
[21:09] <over_soul_> new_to_linux: type ./configure
[21:09] <Trek> over_soul_ do the have drivers for Ubuntu, and not just "linux"?
[21:09] <KB1JWQ> !lucid | sterz
[21:09] <new_to_linux> over_soul_: bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[21:10] <over_soul_> Trek: Unfortunately, no.... I checked
[21:10] <sterz> KB1JWQ, you mean acroread not in repos=?
[21:10] <KB1JWQ> sterz: No, I mean that Lucid isn't discussed here.
[21:10] <Trek> !LUCID | sterz
[21:10] <Trek> sterz: /join #ubuntu+1
[21:11] <over_soul_> new_to_linux: sorry, I missed, type ls, see the new dir, enter it with cd dir_nam and than type ./configure. When that's done type make. After make's done, type make install
[21:11] <dogwar1984> i whant to skip password 4 mount my 2 harddisk how do i do it
[21:13] <over_soul_> Trek: I did everything I know so far... followed the read me - it had only type make - that's the first step...
[21:13] <new_to_linux> over_soul_: hiro@hiro-desktop:~/Downloads$ cd jin-2.14.1/
[21:13] <new_to_linux> hiro@hiro-desktop:~/Downloads/jin-2.14.1$ ./configure
[21:13] <new_to_linux> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[21:13] <Trek> over_soul_ then i don't know what to tell you
[21:13] <Trek> !pastebin | new_to_linux
[21:14] <Leoneof> hi, i've wireless 802.11g , how to change the setting to 802.11b ?
[21:14] <guntbert> over_soul_: from the look of it there seems to be a bug in the sources - talk to Creative
[21:14] <over_soul_> Trek: thanks anyways :)
[21:15] <new_to_linux> the jin-2.14.1 directory was not showing in the ls command
[21:16] <Mark^> After I updated/upgraded my Ubuntu in few minutes my OS crashed.. I tried to restart my machine. While booting it gave me this error: Kernal panic not syncing : VFC : Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (8,6) - can any1 help me please?
[21:16] <new_to_linux> guntbert: the jin-2.14.1 directory is still now not showing in the ls command .. is that where the problem is?
[21:16] <alexpotato> question about switching from nautilus to thunar: I updated /usr/share/applications/nautilus-folder-handler.desktop but I still nautilus running sa a process
[21:17] <lalalol> my calendar starts with sunday as its 1st day, how can i change it to monday?
[21:17] <guntbert> new_to_linux: sorry - I didn't follow - and I'm about to leave - bedtime :)
[21:17] <new_to_linux> guntbert: ls ... command similar to dir in dos
[21:17] <z-boy> mark^ try re-installing the os if you have the bootable cd
[21:18] <over_soul_> well, g'night ppl... I'll try to figure it out tomorrow....
[21:18] <new_to_linux> over_soul_: thanks for the help, gn
[21:18] <guntbert> new_to_linux: yes of course - but I really have no idea where your problem migth be - sorry
[21:19] <rubi> ola
[21:19] <xangua> !hi | rubi
[21:19] <iskra_> hey... anybody figure out how to use a USB game controller as a midi controller?
[21:19] <mega> como vais
[21:19] <mega> olaç
[21:19] <rubi> hay alguien hay
[21:19] <mega> si
[21:19] <rubi> quien eres
[21:19] <mega> yo+
[21:19] <antivirtel> who uses chrome on linux ?
[21:19] <rubi> si
[21:19] <xangua> mega rubi this is NOT a chat room
[21:20] <mega> o
[21:20] <mega> ok
[21:20] <mega> may name is laura
[21:20] <mega> am you
[21:20] <rubi> yo miriam
[21:20] <mega> ok
[21:20] <mega> yo soy laurA
[21:20] <xangua> mega rubi please stop
[21:20] <rubi> cuantos años tienes
[21:20] <iskra_> i use chrome sometimes
[21:21] <mega> CUANTOS AÑOS TIENES
[21:21] <iskra_> for HTML5 stuff
[21:21] <rubi> tu
[21:21] <mega> yo 13
[21:21] <mega> y tu
[21:21] <inveratulo> es!|mega
[21:21] <rubi> yo 12
[21:21] <mega> ok
[21:21] <inveratulo> !es|mega
[21:21] <rubi> de dende eres
[21:21] <inveratulo> !offtopic|mega
[21:22] <mega> de malaga
[21:22] <rubi> y yo
[21:22] <rubi> de q parte
[21:22] <mega> torremolinos
[21:22] <don_martino_> hi! i'm having trouble with grub2 in ubuntu 9.10. i set gfxmode=800x600, but grub doesn't set the vbemode correctly. the grub screen seems to be 800x600 px but only 640x480 are displayed
[21:22] <mega> y tu
[21:22] <arathald> excellent, I've now got japanese working in both terminal and X
[21:22] <xangua> mega rubi van a conseguir que las bloqueen, por favor paren
[21:22] <arathald> well, emilated terminal
[21:22] <arathald> *emulated
[21:22] <rubi> yo del puerto de la torre
[21:23] <rubi> bueno de q ablamos
[21:23] <mega> no se
[21:23] <arathald> !es | mega
[21:23] <arathald> !es | rubi
[21:23] <don_martino_> can anybody help me with grub?
[21:23] <mega> un momento
[21:23] <acceptrisks1> #ubuntu-ko
[21:23] <rubi> q
[21:23] <mega> que voy al vaño
[21:23] <rubi> aaaaaah
[21:23] <zoug> arathald, how did you do that?
[21:23] <arathald> zoug: by typing !es | nick
[21:24] <alexpotato> 2nd attempt: question about switching from nautilus to thunar: I updated /usr/share/applications/nautilus-folder-handler.desktop but I still see nautilus running as a process. thanks
[21:24] <jimmywang> hello
[21:24] <zoug> arathald, oh no, i mean the japanese in terminal..
[21:24] <straterra> I just installed the Zimbra connector..and I enable the plugin in Evolution, but the plugin doesn't stay active after I restart evolution
[21:24] <rubi> ola
[21:24] <mega> ya
[21:24] <jimmywang> o
[21:24] <rubi> bale
[21:25] <rubi> bueno q acemos
[21:25] <KB1JWQ> straterra: Try #zimbra
[21:25] <mega> no se
[21:25] <StrangeCharm> when I try to transcode an flv into an avi using ffmpeg with -qmin 1 -qmax 2 -ar 44100 , the audio comes out unlistenably choppy. what am i doing wrong?
[21:25] <rubi> yo tanpoco se q acer
[21:25] <inveratulo> straterra: i have only ever gotten the zimbra connector to work with thunderbird, fwiw
[21:25] <mega> de donde eres
[21:25] <KB1JWQ> straterra: Not using handbrake? :_)
[21:25] <rubi> yo
[21:25] <magnetra7> I don't like the new theme at all ...
[21:25] <straterra> Handbrake?
[21:26] <mega> si tu
[21:26] <straterra> That's for encoding..
[21:26] <rubi> yo de malaga
[21:26] <KB1JWQ> straterra: Technically, it's for transcoding.
[21:26] <mega> de que àrte
[21:26] <arathald> zoug: oh, heh.. I installed ibus-anth, then i made japanese the only input method that ibus handles (making it the default does the same), then set up ubuntu to use ibus ad the default input method... now i can use ctrl+space to switch into japanese mode
[21:26] <KB1JWQ> straterra: Which is what you asked.
[21:26] <mega> parte
[21:26] <xangua> !ops | rubi mega
[21:26] <straterra> Err..no its not o.O
[21:26] <straterra> Thats not what I asked
[21:26] <Shwack> Hello, I have a problem with Remote Desktop Viewer and viewing my machine. I can connect just fine and move the mouse around.  The problem is, when I control the computer, the change only happens on server - the client doesnt show any changes
[21:26] <rubi> del pase maritimo
[21:26] <KB1JWQ> xangua: Usually it's polite to ask them to move first.
[21:26] <mega> ok
[21:27] <KB1JWQ> Oh, you did.  Whoops.
[21:27] <KB1JWQ> xangua: Ignore me.
[21:27] <KB1JWQ> :-)
[21:27] <rubi> a ti q te gusta acer
[21:27] <xangua> KB1JWQ: already done it like 3 times, this is really sad :S
[21:27] <mega> bueno me tengo que ir
[21:27] <arathald> zoug: the biggest hurtle was realizing i needed to restart my remote screen session in unicode mode
[21:27] <mega>  mañana me conecto
[21:27] <mega> a las 5/6
[21:27] <arathald> mega, rubi: por favor entre al canal de espanol. esto canal es solamante para hablar en ingles...
[21:28] <KB1JWQ> Myrtti: Gracias.
[21:28] <Shwack> Can anyone help me with remote desktop viewer?
[21:28] <Myrtti> KB1JWQ: de nada
[21:29] <arathald> oh... i missed them... no wonder
[21:29] <netshinee> hello?
[21:29] <netshinee> :D
[21:31] <inveratulo> !hello|netshinee
[21:32] <netshinee> sry for that, i got a problem with my "gpg --fingerprint" command.
[21:32] <netshinee> god a wired error: gpg: fatal: can't open `/home/netanel/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg': Input/output error
[21:32] <netshinee> secmem usage: 0/0 bytes in 0/0 blocks of pool 0/32768
[21:32] <netshinee> got = god
[21:32] <DcMeese> Why would my desktop in ubuntu 9.10
[21:32] <DcMeese> Not work
[21:32] <netshinee> i try to google it bot nothing came up.
[21:34] <BluesKaj> DcMeese, please explain exactly what is happening , "not work" doesn't help us
[21:34] <zoug_> can anyone help with my crontabs
[21:35] <DcMeese> BluesKaj: Sometimes on boot my desktop will not load any of my shortie icons but everything else works.
[21:35] <DcMeese> Shortcut*
[21:35] <Mike____> I've had a problem with intermittent extra mouse clicks (moving a window maximize instead) (problem selecting text) since updating to 2.6.31-20-generic last week.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1429091&highlight=click+drag+broken describes it well.  Anyone else seen this?  have a fix?
[21:36] <zoug_> why is my cron going weird? it wont do what i want :(
[21:36] <Mike____> any details zoug_ ?
[21:37] <zoug_> Mike____, i want to run sudo commands, but it doesnt work..
[21:37] <alset> how do i restart the X server from terminal?
[21:37] <Mike____> zoug_, your SOL on that one.  Run them in root's cron if you can.
[21:37] <nOStahl> hey guys I have  a sd card that wont show up anymore. its got a wright protection on it in windows it says. i can access files just cant delete them in linux or windows . no the switch isnt turned on.
[21:37] <nOStahl> any ideas
[21:38] <nOStahl> gparted dosnt show it
[21:38] <zoug_> Mike____, on a diff tty perhaps?
[21:38] <Mike____> zoug_, you can make sure sudo doesn't prompt for a password etc and may get somewhere with it.
[21:38] <Mike____> Cron doesn't need a tty
[21:38] <bobstro> nOStahl:  filesystem corruption?
[21:39] <nOStahl> i dont think dmesg is giving it a sd(c) or anything
[21:39] <bobstro> nOStahl:  i have had that happen with SD card.
[21:39] <zoug_> Mike____, why would it ask password if i run it with sudo?
[21:39] <nOStahl> how can i fix it up
[21:39] <Mike____> sudo prompts for password to verify the user's identity matches up in the sudoers file for that command.
[21:40] <DcMeese> BluesKaj: Is there a way to "refresh" available networks and drives (seperately)?
[21:40] <zoug_> Mike____, so i have to login to root..thats the only way?
[21:40] <Mike____> zoug_, you can turn that off by adding   Somthing like "Defaults:ALL            !authenticate"  to your sudoers file.
[21:40] <myrl> hi
[21:41] <Mike____> zoug_, as these are cron jobs you want to run as root, put them in root's crontab.  If that's not what you want.  Please clarify.
[21:41] <zoug_> Mike____, okay, i'l try to mess with that
[21:41] <myrl> hi
[21:41] <myrl> hi
[21:41] <myrl> hi
[21:41] <myrl> hi
[21:41] <zoug_> Mike____, yeah, i want roots jobs to run from my account
[21:41] <FloodBot4> myrl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:41] <Aeronious> Hello, I'm at my University Library, and after about an hour of being connected to the wireless internet, my connection quits working.  I called my school's tech support and they told me they don't support linux, but that I should try to release and renew my IP address.  I've tried some of the instructions on the forums, but it's still not working.  Any help?
[21:41] <alset> how do i restart the X server? I did something and my screen went blank, and when it came back, my top task bar doesn't show up. but i can click the space where it used to be like it is still there...it just doesn't show up. thoughts?
[21:42] <myrl> how do I start a chat server?
[21:42] <Johnny1> I'm on Ubuntu 9.10. I have my wireless driver installed and under Wireless Networks in the network-manager, it says device not managed. What can I do to fix this?
[21:42] <Mike____> zoug_, I don't see why you would want to do that.  You want them to be in your cron jobs but run as root.  Is this a desktop or a shared server?
[21:42] <shubbar> i cannot print, even pdf
[21:43] <Aeronious> how do I squelch all the joins and quits?
[21:43] <tigermann> which sound chipset do I want on the motherboard for a pleasant ubuntu+xbmc-exerience with spdif out ?
[21:43] <myrl> cups doesn't start
[21:43] <myrl> help
[21:44] <zoug_> Mike____, its a desktop. i want to shutdown my system while i'm still in my account. and halt needs root
[21:44] <nicholas1988> I still have continuous popping noises coming from the computer's internal speakers even though I built and installed the latest version of ALSA and added the necessary line to the ALSA configuration
[21:44] <nicholas1988> if I cannot resolve this problem, I am abandoning Ubuntu
[21:44] <xangua> nicholas1988: why not use pulse audio¿
[21:44] <nicholas1988> how would I do that
[21:44] <Mike____> zoug_, cron jobs run for the user whether they are logged in or not.  root's cron jobs will run as scheduled no matter who is logged in.
[21:45] <myrl> hey peeps
[21:45] <nOStahl> hrmm now the sd card dosnt show up in windows too
[21:45] <xangua> nicholas1988: open: gtreamer-properties ; and select pulseaudio in the audio tab
[21:45] <nOStahl> what gives..
[21:45] <xangua> gstreamer-properties*
[21:45] <zoug_> Mike____, thats right
[21:45] <alset> how do i restart the X server? I did something and my screen went blank, and when it came back, my top task bar doesn't show up. but i can click the space where it used to be like it is still there...it just doesn't show up. thoughts?
[21:46] <tigermann> alset: ctr+alt+backspace
[21:46] <Aeronious> \help
[21:46] <tigermann> hit it 3 times or so
[21:46] <tigermann> usually work :)
[21:46] <myrl> people please help cups doesn't start on startup
[21:46] <nicholas1988> I was using Pulseaudio
[21:47] <Aeronious> Hello, I'm at my University Library, and after about an hour of being connected to the wireless internet, my connection quits working.  I called my school's tech support and they told me they don't support linux, but that I should try to release and renew my IP address.  I've tried some of the instructions on the forums, but it's still not working.  Any help?
[21:47] <nicholas1988> and switched to ALSA
[21:47] <nicholas1988> but the popping noise is still there
[21:47] <Aeronious> CAN ANYONE HELP?
[21:47] <rho_> Hello all
[21:47] <nicholas1988> my machine is a Pavilion dv6647 which does use the internal speakers for system beeps
[21:48] <xangua> !anyone | Aeronious
[21:48] <GorillaP> hey I'm installing Ubuntu 10.04 on my Thinkpad and my screen has went very dim during the installation. Is this common?
[21:48] <alset> tigermann: ctr+alt+backspace doesn't work for some reason... i tried pressing it multiple times, but nothing...
[21:48] <bobstro> Aeronious:  try disconnecting and reconnecting perhaps. click on the network icon.
[21:48] <zoug_> xangua, he already did
[21:48] <bobstro> Aeronious:  not sure why it drops after ~1 hour. does it do that all the time?
[21:48] <Aeronious> bobstro, I've tried it...
[21:49] <bobstro> Aeronious:  and?
[21:49] <Aeronious> yes, everytime
[21:49] <GorillaP> hey I'm installing Ubuntu 10.04 on my Thinkpad and my screen has went very dim during the installation. Is this common
[21:50] <nick_h> would someone mind telling me if they're able to telnet to 168.144.229.71 port 22, please?
[21:50] <bobstro> nick_h:  telnet to 22?
[21:50] <nick_h> bobstro: yep
[21:50] <Aeronious> I guess the lease on the IP expires, but I can't get my laptop to release and renew, even with a reboot
[21:50] <alset> tigermann: nvm fixed it. i guess i ran the Compiz program and it caused the problem. i just ran Compiz again and it fixed it...hrm...oh well
[21:50] <nick_h> i just want to see if others are able to connect to sshd
[21:51] <bobstro> nick_h:  how about i try ssh?
[21:51] <shiloh18> is anyone familiar with a good scanning software package, changes formats, groupings, etc?
[21:51] <nick_h> bobstro: sure
[21:51] <bobstro> nick_h:  no connect.
[21:51] <nick_h> thanks bobstro
[21:52] <zoug_> Aeronious, did you try changing the ip add from the network manager?
[21:52] <Aeronious> bobstro: that's not your area of expertise?
[21:52] <bobstro> nick_h:  how hard you want me to poke?
[21:52] <minni10> Hola?
[21:52] <stsm> whats the best windowmanager for an outdated laptop with a celeron and 256mb ram?
[21:52] <stsm> and how do i start it instead of gnome
[21:52] <nick_h> bobstro: feel free to probe, though you might trip an IDS or alarm  =P
[21:52] <bobstro> Aeronious:  sorry, what? usually disco/reconnect works. but hard to know what dopey stuff they've done.
[21:52] <Aeronious> If this involves me talking to a techie, there's no chance. University Library.  University tech can't help
[21:53] <Ellen> having some DNS problems... i cannot resolv wan names? can anyone help me?
[21:53] <Ellen> http://pastebin.com/9yKuFN8X
[21:53] <Aeronious> zoug_:
[21:53] <Ellen> basically i cannot connect to the outside internet on my ubuntu machine posted above is my interfaces file?? i cant seem to figure out why?
[21:53] <bobstro> Aeronious:  i'm pretty good with networks, but trying to keep it simple. you can try opening a terminal, then doing "sudo dhclient <iface>" using your actual WLAN interface.
[21:53] <zoug_> Aeronious, did you try changing the ip add from the network manager?
[21:53] <Typos_King> stsm:    something like fluxbox or afterstep... or jwm
[21:53] <Aeronious> bobstro: what is <iface>?  Do I use that command verbatim?
[21:54] <bobstro> Aeronious:  that is the closest to their "ipconfig /release or /renew stuff"
[21:54] <Aeronious> zoug_: how do I do that?
[21:54] <bobstro> Aeronious:  no... :) replace <iface> with the actual name of your interface
[21:54] <Ellen> anybody?http://pastebin.com/9yKuFN8X
[21:54] <bobstro> Aeronious:  hover over the network manager icon to see that name
[21:55] <shiloh18> is anyone familiar with a good scanning software package, changes formats, groupings, etc?
[21:55] <Freak__>  /server irc.anonnet.org
[21:55] <Typos_King> Aeronious:   what was the original inquiry?
[21:55] <zoug_> Aeronious, just change the wlan ip add assigned, if it helps..
[21:55] <zoug_> Typos_King, wlan disconnects after an hour
[21:56] <stsm> Typos_King, and how do i start that instead of gnome? (its not for myself im asking)
[21:56] <stsm> i used to have fluxbox on my PDA :)
[21:56] <stsm> indeed very light
[21:56] <bobstro> zoug_:  i wouldn't just pick an ip!
[21:56] <Typos_King> shiloh18:    I have Kooka.... and digiKam   though I don't use either...so...haven't done much scanning lately :|
[21:56] <Ellen> can anyone help me with my DNS problems?
[21:56] <Ellen> network 192.168.1.0
[21:56] <Ellen> http://pastebin.com/9yKuFN8X
[21:57] <Aeronious> Hello, I'm at my University Library, and after about an hour of being connected to the wireless internet, my connection quits working.  I called my school's tech support and they told me they don't support linux, but that I should try to release and renew my IP address.  I've tried some of the instructions on the forums, but it's still not working.  Any help?
[21:57] <Typos_King> Aeronious:   ... it might be your access point, no?
[21:57] <willazilla> My cd of ISO for 9.10 won't kick in
[21:57] <shiloh18> Typos_King, thank you, its a good place to start
[21:57] <bobstro> Aeronious:  did you try the dhclient command?
[21:57] <zoug_> Aeronious, if you can tell us the ip add, you see anywhere in network manager?
[21:57] <shiloh18> i was using LAW, on my scanning machine, and have changed is from MS
[21:57] <shiloh18> its runnung ubuntu now
[21:58] <bobstro> Aeronious:  and does the network manager say you're still connected to wirleess?
[21:58] <Aeronious> bobstro: I tried, but I don't know what goes in the last part
[21:58] <stsm> Ellen, so whats the problem? URLs wont resolve?
[21:58] <Ellen> correct
[21:58] <Ellen> when i do
[21:58] <Aeronious> I tried uwf-argo-air
[21:58] <Ellen> route add default gw 192.168.1.254 eth0 it works fine but when i restart it does not work?
[21:58] <Typos_King> shiloh18:    you mean, you're running it under WINE?
[21:58] <Ellen> i have to add that route add default each time i restart hte machine
[21:58] <Aeronious> doesn't say I'm connected to wireless, it says I'm NOT connected
[21:58] <bobstro> Aeronious:  hover your mouse over the network manager icon. it will tell you the interface if you're connected.
[21:59] <Ellen> also getting this error
[21:59] <Ellen> http://pastebin.com/pzWKQkTK
[21:59] <Typos_King> Aeronious:   and this is happening only in the *nix session?   tried yet in the win32/macOSX? same?
[21:59] <shiloh18> no i was, i swithched out the PC i use for scanning, it runs ubuntu now, im done with MS forever
[21:59] <willazilla> Trying to install Ubuntu 9.10 from cd with ISO, but all I get is a spinning cd then nothing
[21:59] <zoug_> Aeronious, can u tell us the ip add which u tried to change? you can just change the last part to anything less than 255
[21:59] <stsm> Ellen, route add default gw 192.168.1.254 eth0 solves it? :s
[22:00] <bobstro> zoug_:  he isn't on WLAN, there is not ip to have
[22:00] <Aeronious> at the command line it said no such device, but I'm connected now
[22:00] <Ellen> yes b ut... each time i restart hte ubuntu server i hae to type that in or else it will not go to the want
[22:00] <Ellen> * WAN
[22:00] <zoug_> bobstro, he said wireless internet
[22:00] <Ellen> also i still get this error even when i do the route add
[22:00] <Ellen> http://pastebin.com/pzWKQkTK
[22:00] <bobstro> zoug_:  yes, he keeps disconnecting after an hour
[22:00] <Snofroe> Help please, My Firefox and google chrome browsers both will not load any videos at youtube and other sites, is it my java?
[22:00] <willazilla> I've done this before and it worked as intended.
[22:00] <stsm> Ellen, i'm just not getting how that could possibly solve anything :S, the ip is in a different subnet even
[22:00] <zoug_> bobstro, so its WLAN, wireless..
[22:01] <Ellen> no
[22:01] <Ellen> ...
[22:01] <Typos_King> willazilla:     retry with the live-cd, before pressing Enter to start it, press F6 and check acpi=off and noapic, then press Enter
[22:01] <Ellen> lol
[22:01] <Ellen> i mean
[22:01] <Ellen> the IP
[22:01] <Ellen> is
[22:01] <FloodBot4> Ellen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:01] <bobstro> zoug_:  until he reconnects, he won't have an IP address (dhcp)
[22:01] <CrustyBarnacle> Snofroe: x86_64?
[22:01] <Aeronious> the only thing I just did was bobstro's thing that didn't work, and now I'm connected again?
[22:01] <Snofroe> CrustyBaranacle: i beleive 86
[22:01] <grindhold> hello everyone! is there a simple way to hiberate/suspend an ubuntu computer per login shell?
[22:01] <bobstro> Aeronious:  if you disconnected and reconnected, it can take a few seconds.
[22:02] <stsm> Ellen, looks like you pasted too much in the channel lol
[22:02] <bobstro> Aeronious:  that's a simple-minded way of doing what they told you.
[22:02] <dante123> The login keyring did not get unlocked when you logged into your computer.<------------How to fix this so I don't have to enter keyring password each time???
[22:02] <CrustyBarnacle> Snofroe: videos require flash (libflashplayer.so)
[22:02] <zoug_> bobstro, can change the static ip, if its not dhcp
[22:02] <Typos_King> shiloh18:    ... I see... I also have HPLip which is an HP linux printing/imaging app.... though the same  I don't use it either
[22:02] <willazilla> Typos_King: Thanks, will give that a whirl
[22:02] <Ellen> lol im back
[22:02] <bobstro> Aeronious:  it doesn't explain WHY it's happening
[22:02] <CrustyBarnacle> !flash | snoefroe
[22:02] <bobstro> zoug_:  he got an IP when he re-associated with the WLAN
[22:02] <Snofroe> CrustyBaranacle: how do i make sure it's installed? cause its obviously not
[22:02] <Typos_King> Aeronious:   and this is happening only in the *nix session?   tried yet in the win32/macOSX? same?
[22:02] <Aeronious> well now that I am connected, I have all of my address up (by clicking connection information)
[22:02] <bobstro> zoug_:  just picking a random IP is probably a BAD idea if they're paranoid about security.
[22:03] <dante123> The login keyring did not get unlocked when you logged into your computer.<------------How to fix this so I don't have to enter keyring password each time???
[22:03] <Aeronious> I have no windows/mac
[22:03] <bobstro> Aeronious:  when the wireless reconnects, it should give you an IP address.
[22:03] <Aeronious> bobstro: I have one
[22:03] <CrustyBarnacle> Snofroe: in the address bar, go to "about:plugins"
[22:03] <k0d3g3ar> anyone know of an open source equivalent of 'GotoAssist' for Ubuntu?
[22:03] <zoug_> bobstro, what if dhcp is off? we dont yet know that do we?
[22:03] <stsm> Ellen, lol wb
[22:03] <bobstro> Aeronious:  sorry i can't tell you exactly WHY it happens, but hopefully this is a work-around.
[22:04] <hellyeah> hey
[22:04] <harovali1> hi , which package provides in 9.10 openssh server ?
[22:04] <hellyeah> i am using ubuntu 9.10
[22:04] <Aeronious> but it said "No such device!"
[22:04] <bobstro> zoug_:  the rest of the university is ok. he is now connected. so yes, i assume it's ok.
[22:04] <hellyeah> my machine freeze i mean my os
[22:04] <bobstro> Aeronious:  but you are connected now?
[22:04] <hellyeah> and i have to restart xserver
[22:04] <trism> harovali1: openssh-server
[22:04] <Typos_King> Aeronious:   soooo, you don't  know if it's THEM on the university doing any timing?
[22:04] <Aeronious> I think whoever got assigned my IP must have left or something
[22:04] <stsm> Ellen, /etc/resolv.conf , can you pastebin that>?
[22:05] <Typos_King> Aeronious:   rather than your installion drivers or configuration
[22:05] <bobstro> Aeronious:  so you're on now?
[22:05] <Ellen> yea hold on
[22:05] <NinoScript> what happens in #ubuntu+2?
[22:05] <Ellen> my resolv conf only has this: "nameserver 192.168.0.106"
[22:05] <Typos_King> Aeronious:   is this a mobile or desktop?
[22:05] <Azelphur> NinoScript: dark magic
[22:05] <Aeronious> But I need to know how I can fix this in the future, because I don't think that command is a reliable fix
[22:05] <Aeronious> laptop
[22:06] <bobstro> Aeronious:  i suspect the disconnect/reconnect fixed it. if it's working now, their DHCP is ok, your drivers are OK etc.
[22:06] <NinoScript> Azelphur: Lol :P I'd like to join and see what people are talkin about there…
[22:06] <Snofroe> CrustyBaranacle: it shows adobe flashplayer installe
[22:06] <Typos_King> Aeronious:     oooook.... have you tried other hotspots, say some local cafe or the local library, if they also do the same to assess is your installation?
[22:06] <AntiProxy> hi everyone
[22:06] <henry_> HOLA
[22:06] <Aeronious> I still think it's a coincidence, but I'll drop it for now I guess
[22:06] <henry_> desde  sevilla
[22:07] <Typos_King> !es | henry
[22:07] <Aeronious> typos, I'm at the University Library
[22:07] <zoug_> Aeronious, so your one hour disconnects happened more than once?
[22:07] <bobstro> Aeronious:  before you go... make a note... hover mouse over network manager icon and see if it names your wireless interface
[22:07] <bobstro> Aeronious:  something like 'wlan0' perhaps?
[22:07] <stsm> Ellen, please highlight me if you answer :p else i might miss it
[22:07] <CrustyBarnacle> Snofroe: I can view videos fine. My "about:plugins" states: "    File name: libflashplayer.so
[22:07] <CrustyBarnacle>     Shockwave Flash 10.0 r45"
[22:07] <harovali1> trism: my 9.10 says it has no openssh-server candidate
[22:07] <AntiProxy> guys, starting a couple days ago after a regular software update, my ubuntu box has become PAINFULLY slow.. i mean i click the applications menu.. nothing happens for literally 10 seconds, during which the CPU usage is normal, and nothing seems to be happening! i checked all the logs, had top running on a remote term to see if something is using resources.. nothing :\
[22:07] <Aeronious> Every day I come to the library, it works perfectly for an hour, maybe a few minutes longer, then it disconnects and rarely reconnects
[22:08] <stsm> Ellen, try changing that to 192.168.0.1, since that is your gateway
[22:08] <Ellen> what am i chaing to 192.168.0.1?
[22:08] <stsm> Ellen, your gateway most likely also does dns (this is a home network right?)
[22:08] <Typos_King> Aeronious:     no coincidence... since you haven't checked, is not an uncommon practice for some 'public' hotspots to do such, the local library here used to, they don't now, but they also presented you with an information page before click OK/Connect letting you know your connection was going to drop in 1hr, and youhad to reconnect and that you didn't need to close your browser
[22:08] <zoug_> Aeronious, i think its not the problem on your side
[22:08] <stsm> Ellen, "nameserver 192.168.0.106"
[22:09] <trism> harovali1: try doing: sudo apt-get update; then try to get it again
[22:09] <Aeronious> I usually work around it by plugging into the wall, but as a University student, I don't get a page, I'm just automatically connected
[22:09] <stsm> Ellen, "nameserver 192.168.0.106" should be "nameserver 192.168.0.1" most likely (this is a homenetwork correct?)
[22:09] <bobstro> zoug_:  i suspect their dhcp lease is low, not setting up leases correclty
[22:09] <Typos_King> Aeronious:     I should point out that even though they don't now, they still may drop the connection if there is 'idle' activity for a certain period of time, and you have to reconnect
[22:09] <trism> harovali1: it is in karmic/main so there is no reason you shouldn't be able to install it
[22:09] <dyek> Hi! Can Ubuntu desktop (karmic) be setup to do xdmcp easily?
[22:09] <zoug_> bobstro, yeah
[22:09] <Aeronious> I'm never idle
[22:10] <Ellen> ok i will try taht
[22:10] <bobstro> Aeronious:  if you get that interface name, THAT is what you put in the dhclient line for <iface>
[22:10] <bobstro> Aeronious:  so i'd take a note :)
[22:10] <CrustyBarnacle> !flash | CrustyBarnacle
[22:10] <Aeronious> And "no such device" means it works?
[22:10] <bobstro> Aeronious:  do you have a good signal where you're sitting?
[22:10] <Aeronious> all four bars
[22:10] <bobstro> Aeronious:  no, when it connects it should show you the interface name
[22:10] <bobstro> Aeronious:  ok
[22:11] <Typos_King> Aeronious:     that's  not the issue, the issue is, you dunno what their policy and practice is on the provided connectivity, at least for now, try some other wireless hotspot at a local cafe, it'll just cost you a cup of coffee :P
[22:11] <bobstro> Aeronious:  i suspect their network isn't set up to be very friendly to anything not windows.
[22:11] <Aeronious> Typos_King: not an option, thank you
[22:11] <stsm> Ellen, did you change it?
[22:11] <Aeronious> bobstro: true
[22:11] <harovali1> trism: it worked after apt-get update :-) thanks
[22:11] <Typos_King> Aeronious:     then you don't know if they're doing it, or they're not
[22:11] <Snofroe> i reinstalled flash using synaptic along with an extra pluging for unsupported sound systems and how the videos are jumpy almost like fast forward can anybody help me
[22:11] <bobstro> Aeronious:  they're just assuming it works like windows, which is probably all they know. lousy attitude for a university.
[22:12] <stsm> Ellen, after you change it you need to run this command to restart networking (you will get disconnected from IRC if this is the same machine)
[22:12] <Shambat> I have a dd-wrt router. I want to make it so that a request for the host ABC.locallan by a client connected to the router will resolve to an IP adress in another network. how can I do this?
[22:12] <stsm> Ellen: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:12] <bobstro> Typos_King:  they told him to renew his DHCP address.
[22:12] <CrustyBarnacle> Snofroe: Go to http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[22:12] <Aeronious> we have plenty of linux people here, they just don't service the university, they teach and research...
[22:12] <zimmermanc> Hi, If I have a package in state RC in dpkg -l , how would I go about removing it?
[22:12] <zoug_> bobstro, i hate those sysadmins
[22:12] <BlackDalek> how do I print multiple photos on one page from f-spot?
[22:13] <Aeronious> well is there a resource I could point them towards to help them be more linux friendly?  I don't use windows
[22:13] <Typos_King> bobstro:    'they', the receptionist, the 'techie', the guy with a pencil on his ear? usually the guy who can give good information on the services on many callcenters are the actual guys running the servers, sadly as I've found in tech calls myself.... sooooo, as of now, we dunno as far as I can tell, and Aeronious doesn't wish to check elsewhere if the same timing happens.... so
[22:14] <Ellen> ok i did a sudo network restart?
[22:14] <Ellen> it still says network is unreachable
[22:14] <willazilla> I have a dual boot w/ Vista and Ubuntu 9.04 and am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 9.10. Do I have to start all over again or can I simply upgrade from the Live CD?
[22:14] <Aeronious> Typos_King: I have wireless at home, which works all the time, if that's what you mean
[22:14] <willazilla> My primary is Ubuntu
[22:14] <stsm> Ellen, you did this exact command right?
[22:14] <stsm> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:14] <Typos_King> Aeronious:     is that provided by the same university?
[22:14] <Ellen> getting this error when doing /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:14] <Ellen> SIOCSIFNETMASK: Invalid argument
[22:15] <Ellen> Failed to bring up eth0.
[22:15] <xangua> willazilla: you can upgrade from the update manager
[22:15] <willazilla> It fails when I try
[22:15] <Aeronious> ok, I'm off, I'm going to leave this up though in case I have more problems, thanks!
[22:15] <bobstro> Aeronious:  good luck
[22:15] <patC> Hi, I just installed 8.10 on a dell latitude d600 and when i use the fn key for example to increase/decrease the brightness of the screen it seems that the key gets stuck or is not released and no other key stroke will register. Has anyone seen this before?
[22:15] <Snofroe> it was my sound device causing it. hrm i had to switch to ALSA from OSS to make flashplayer work
[22:16] <Aeronious> thanks so much!
[22:16] <stsm> Ellen, can you patebin /etc/network/interfaces please?
[22:16] <CrustyBarnacle> Snofroe: Glad it works now :-)
[22:16] <Ellen> http://pastebin.com/cSHCAsyq
[22:16] <BluesKaj> Ellen, did you check ifconfig ?
[22:16] <eax> Hi there, how can I change the ownership of an HDD so that ALL users can write to it?
[22:17] <stsm> Ellen, dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 why did you add that :s
[22:17] <Ellen> iconfig?
[22:17] <Mike____> eax, chmod -R 777 /path/to/mount/point
[22:17] <Ellen> someone told me to do that to resolv the nameservers
[22:17] <stsm> Ellen, actually: what are you trying to do lol
[22:17] <nowarninglabel> Hi. Anyone know how to disable renaming of folders when double clicking on them in Ubuntu 9.10/Gnome? I'd like for it to not bring up rename, I only want to open folders when doubleclicking hem
[22:17] <BluesKaj> Ellen, ifconfig in the terminal
[22:17] <eax> Mike____: Thanks! :)
[22:17] <stsm> Ellen, remove dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 please
[22:18] <GorillaP> hey I'm installing Ubuntu 10.04 on my Thinkpad and my screen has went very dim during the installation. Is this common
[22:18] <patC> Hi, I just installed 8.10 on a dell latitude d600 and when i use the fn key for example to increase/decrease the brightness of the screen it seems that the key gets stuck or is not released and no other key stroke will register. Has anyone seen this before?
[22:18] <CrustyBarnacle> stsm: http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html | Ellen
[22:18] <stsm> CrustyBarnacle, i know, it doesnt have any use
[22:18] <stsm> CrustyBarnacle, i just set up regular dns..
[22:18] <zoug_> okay, my crontabs are not working again. i need to run root commands from my account.
[22:18] <willazilla> xangua: It did last time I tried, anyway, and corrupted my Archive Manager in the process. Maybe they fixed it ... I'll try again.
[22:18] <eax> Mike___ Will that "stick" after a reboot?
[22:18] <xangua> good luck willazilla ;)
[22:19] <Lonely-Troll> hello :)
[22:19] <zoug_> anyone knows if fcron a better alternative to cron?
[22:19] <nowarninglabel> zoug_: if you want to a crontab as root why not just sudo su and edit the crontab for root?
[22:19] <Lonely-Troll> zoug_ yes
[22:19] <zoug_> nowarninglabel, its not working :(
[22:19] <Typos_King> zoug_   dunno, there's kcron too
[22:19] <ader10> what's different about ubu netbook remix
[22:19] <Typos_King> if that helps any
[22:20] <nowarninglabel> zoug_: hmm that sucks, you did crontab -e right and that part worked fine?
[22:20] <zoug_> nowarninglabel, yeah
[22:21] <nowarninglabel> zoug_: ok, yeah guess you have to go with an alternative then, that sucks when cron won't do what you want
[22:21] <iceroot> nowarninglabel: never use sudo su
[22:21] <javi> spain
[22:21] <iceroot> nowarninglabel: its setting the environment wrong, just use sudo crontab -e
[22:21] <bobstro> zoug_:  are you editing YOUR crontab?
[22:21] <atomic_sofa> are you stupid?
[22:21] <bobstro> zoug_:  and you have root access on this box?
[22:21] <bobstro> zoug_:  cron will do it
[22:22] <zoug_> bobstro, i dont want my crontab, i want roots crontab
[22:22] <zoug_> thats where i was editing..
[22:22] <iceroot> zoug_: sudo crontab -e
[22:22] <zoug_> and its not working
[22:22] <Myrtti> zoug_: sudo crontab -e ?
[22:22] <bobstro> zoug_:  and you can get root, right?
[22:22] <zoug_> yeah
[22:22] <zoug_> i get root
[22:22] <FloodBot4> zoug_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:22] <bobstro> zoug_:  i'd put stuff like that under /etc/cron.d
[22:22] <stsm> Ellen, so did you remove it?
[22:22] <iceroot> zoug_: dont use sudo su!
[22:22] <bobstro> zoug_:  you can specify who to run as there (incl. root)
[22:22] <zoug_> iceroot, no i didnt, i su root then type crontab -e
[22:22] <Typos_King> patC:  the key is stuck?    what is that?
[22:23] <antivirtel> bb
[22:23] <iceroot> zoug_: just use sudo crontab -e
[22:23] <bobstro> zoug_:  individual crontabs work, of course, but i like having all "rooty" stuff in one place for ease of maintenance
[22:23] <patC> Typos_King, i dont think so it worked fine in XP
[22:23] <zoug_> iceroot, its not working that way..
[22:23] <iceroot> zoug_: of course it is working that way
[22:24] <Typos_King> patC:  the key is stuck?    I don't even know what that means to begin with.. anyhow... different OS/apps will have different keybindings or mappings... who knows
[22:24] <iceroot> zoug_: and what does "is not working" mean?
[22:24] <Myrtti> zoug_: if it doesn't work, then you've messed something up, possibly by setting up the root password and fiddling with stuff in a "non-ubuntu" way...
[22:24] <AntiProxy> okay i found the reason why my ubuntu box slowed down to a crawl.. after i downgraded kernels, graphics drivers, and basically undid anything i suspected to have been involved..
[22:25] <AntiProxy> turns out the pulseaudio server on my windows box had crashed.. and since my linux box redirects all audio output there, that totally slowed everything down with the GUI
[22:25] <zoug_> iceroot, this is an example crontab : 0 3 * * * halt        and it doesnt work with using: sudo crontab -e    or   su to root then crontab -e
[22:26] <zoug_> i also added a newline after the job
[22:26] <iceroot> zoug_: there is no path
[22:26] <patC> Typos_King, i mean the key seems stuck, no other key stroke registers after i press the fn key
[22:26] <iceroot> zoug_: so cron dont know what "halt" is
[22:27] <henry363> spain
[22:27] <iceroot> zoug_: 0 3 * * * /sbin/halt
[22:27] <Myrtti> !es | henry363
[22:27] <zoug_> iceroot, so i need to give the whole path..
[22:27] <iceroot> zoug_: yes or define the path in the crontab file
[22:28] <Purpley> Anyone have success syncing their zune with VIrtualBox OSE?
[22:28] <iceroot> zoug_: else crontab cant find halt
[22:28] <Typos_King> patC:  .... how many window managers have you tried that in?    might just be a window manager keybinding
[22:28] <patC> just metacity
[22:28] <patC> in gnome
[22:28] <iceroot> zoug_: to find out the path use "which programname"
[22:29] <zoug_> iceroot, okay..
[22:29] <iceroot> zoug_: and dont use su!
[22:29] <kai> hi
[22:29] <Typos_King> patC:  it does the same in metacity wm, and in gnome wm.... might be  a keyboard layout loaded
[22:29] <zoug_> iceroot, any reason for that? just curious.
[22:29] <Myrtti> !root
[22:30] <Snofroe> How can i reset my audio settings completly?
[22:30] <BaconZombie> sudo su ; passwd
[22:30] <iceroot> zoug_: yes, working the whole time as root will have a great chance that you destroy your system (if you dont know what you are doing)
[22:30] <iceroot> zoug_: its a protection for new users
[22:30] <kai> does anyone know how i can configure l2tp in ubuntu for hotspot shield
[22:30] <iceroot> BaconZombie: stop that
[22:30] <Typos_King> l2tp?
[22:30] <zoug_> iceroot, yup, su is bad idea.
[22:31] <iceroot> BaconZombie: also that is the badest way to set the password
[22:31] <zoug_> iceroot, thanks!
[22:31] <Mike____> eax, that change is permanent  makes everything in that mount point world read / write
[22:31] <kai> Typos_King, yes that's a VPN protocoll
[22:31] <Typos_King> ohh...k
[22:31] <jhb_> ? wat is dit
[22:32] <Snofroe> How can i reset my audio settings completly?
[22:33] <kai> hotspot shield has published data for connecting via l2tp for iphone but this would also be a possibility for ubuntu but i don't know how to configure, there's no network-mannager addon
[22:33] <itai> hi which programme burns mpegs to DVD ? (inb4 google)
[22:35] <stsm> itai, if you mean just burn it as a file you can use k3b, its a real nice burning program
[22:36] <zoug_> iceroot, is this correct for running synaptic at 4:04 am?  4 4 * * * /usr/sbin/synaptic
[22:36] <itai> stsm, can a dvd machine play it ?
[22:36] <thieusoai>  I can't connect to Yahoo or AIM on Empathy  --- anyone else experiences the same thing ?
[22:36] <Typos_King> Snofroe:        try with -> dpkg-reconfigure gnome-audio;   either gnome-audio or linux-sound-base packages
[22:36] <stsm> itai, if it can play mpeg files it should, you could try with a rewritable or something
[22:36] <Typos_King> Snofroe:        sudo that ^_^
[22:37] <iceroot> zoug_: and what should synaöptic do?
[22:37] <stsm> itai, if it cannot read mpeg files you woould need to convert it again, i did that once, but i don't recall the program i used sorry
[22:37] <itai> stsm, i used k2b before but it required alot of kde libs, is that still the case?
[22:37] <itai> k3b...
[22:37] <iceroot> itai: yes
[22:37] <stsm> itai, its a kde program... so yes
[22:37] <stsm> lol
[22:37] <woot_> I am running a multiple displays setup with a nvidia video card, and whenever i put something to fullscreen (ie. a movie, a game, or pictures) its run the picture through both screens and it is divided up in the middle. Is there a way to make it display only on one?
[22:37] <itai> stsm, ok thanks, i will give it a shot
[22:37] <zoug_> iceroot, i just wanted to chk
[22:37] <stsm> itai, but once you got the kde libs you can of course install many other kde tools aswell
[22:38] <stsm> itai, i think you will definitely like it
[22:38] <iceroot> zoug_: check what?
[22:38] <kai> different topic anyone know a programm to play blu-ray other than MakeMKV (please not DumpHD)
[22:38] <stsm> iceroot, hes just testing cron i think
[22:38] <alyssa_> Hey, first time in the channel. Would this be the place to ask about a LAN problem I'm having with karmic?
[22:38] <itai> stsm, thanks
[22:38] <Myrtti> alyssa_: yes
[22:38] <stsm> iceroot, or better: wants to test cron :p
[22:38] <iDope> is Turbo boost for Core i7s completely fixed in kernel 2.6.31-20?
[22:38] <zoug_> iceroot, that cron is opening synaptic
[22:39] <KikkyMonk> I'm probably asking this question for the zillionth time but should I install 32-bit or 64-bit ubuntu? I have a core 2 duo 64-bit mobile processor and 4 GB of RAM
[22:39] <iceroot> zoug_: i dont think cron is opening synaptic because synaptic is a gui-application
[22:39] <iceroot> zoug_: but the syntax is correct
[22:39] <stsm> KikkyMonk, probably 64bit
[22:39] <woot_> can anyone help me with that?
[22:39] <KikkyMonk> I'm also running windows 7 64-bit if that helps also
[22:39] <zoug_> iceroot, okay, so one more thing i did not know about cron. it doesnt open gui apps.
[22:39] <stsm> KikkyMonk, you could still use all of your ram with 32bit + PAE, but 64bit would make more sense since your CPU supports it
[22:40] <iceroot> zoug_: not by default, because cron doenst know your screen
[22:40] <alyssa_> Thanks. I'm at a Lan party with some friends. I got onto the wireless network they have and downloaded some games, but I went to connect to a network my friend set up for gaming. I was able to connect to the network, but my connection was 0%. Any ideas?
[22:40] <stsm> KikkyMonk, also why did you have to ask this so many times lol? seems pretty simple to me
[22:40] <happyface> woot_: do you have twinview enabled?
[22:40] <iceroot> zoug_: you can test it with  * * * *  /usr/bin/firefox  to see
[22:41] <KikkyMonk> Yeah, that's what I was thinking but is 64-bit well supported or are there issues with it? Also, is it possible to switch between the two without a full re-install (I know... probably not).
[22:41] <Typos_King> woot_   haven't done much dual-monitors myself... yet, but I know is a known issue, which I may add is the default configuration, to have the desktop span over
[22:41] <KikkyMonk> lol... a zillion and one times!
[22:41] <zoug_> iceroot, i dont think that would open firefox
[22:41] <stsm> KikkyMonk, try it its pretty good supported
[22:41] <zoug_> iceroot, let me try
[22:42] <iceroot> zoug_: i dont think so too
[22:42] <woot_> yea i have twinview enabled
[22:42] <stsm> KikkyMonk, if something important doesnt work you just install 32bit
[22:42] <stsm> KikkyMonk, but its pretty likely your hardware will just work
[22:42] <bobstro> KikkyMonk:  i have been on 64 bit for over a year now with no problems. i forget i'm on 64 most of the time.
[22:43] <bobstro> KikkyMonk:  just be aware that 3rd party stuff might only release 32 bit binaries.
[22:43] <KikkyMonk> That's fine so long as it works. That's how it is with my windows 7 install
[22:43]  * Typos_King wonders how many millions in a zillion, is 'zill' greek? don't think so
[22:44] <KikkyMonk> Hellatimes
[22:44] <Typos_King> hellatimes?    why is it they both sound like made up terms?  just my 'wodersomeness'
[22:45] <Typos_King> s/wo/won/
[22:45] <iDope> anyone  is Turbo boost for Core i7s completely fixed in kernel 2.6.31-20?
[22:45] <rothspec_> This is hard to describe--under 10.04, when I shut down a VM under vmware workstation 7, the host video mode goes "invalid" and the monitor says 'invalid timing' and stops displaying anything.
[22:45] <stsm> lol why the hell does it mather how someone speaks, and if someone uses made up words
[22:45] <stsm> as long as its clear what they mean....
[22:45] <Typos_King> !lucid | rothspec_
[22:46] <techtronic> hello , i have problem with grub http://pastebin.com/2NAFj5P8 maybe someone can help ?
[22:46] <KikkyMonk> Hate to link facebook but it's pretty funny http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Official-Petition-to-Establish-Hella-as-the-SI-Prefix-for-1027/277479937276
[22:46] <pirx2> hi! is there somewhere a log of the boot-process?
[22:47] <pirx2> i think that fsck writes something about errors but cant read it
[22:47] <Typos_King> pirx2:   /var/log/system   iirc
[22:47] <KikkyMonk> stsm: Is it AMD64.iso then?
[22:47] <pirx2> Typos_King: no such file:(
[22:47] <stsm> KikkyMonk, all 64bit architecture is amd64 yes
[22:47] <Typos_King> pirx2:   /var/log/syslog   that is, or bring it up with -> dmesg
[22:47] <Snofroe> thanks Typos_King lemme try that
[22:48] <arand> pirx2: Look at menu System>Administraiton>Log Viewer  the kernel log might be releavnt
[22:48] <FremenBlue> hey, i just set Default in /etc/default/grub to entry 2, that would be the correct entry for the previous kernel right? because entry 0 and 1 are the new kernel and new kernel recovery?
[22:48] <Maranatha> I am having an issue with the Ubuntu Software Center (Ubuntu 9.10)
[22:48] <stsm> so whats the issue
[22:48] <Maranatha> It says waiting for other software managers to quit
[22:48] <arand> FremenBlue: As far as I know, yes.
[22:48] <Maranatha> and I have none running
[22:48] <stsm> Maranatha, then you got synaptic open aswell
[22:49] <stsm> Maranatha, or update-manager
[22:49] <FremenBlue> thanks just checking b4 i run grub-update && reboot
[22:49] <FremenBlue> =D
[22:49] <Maranatha> I rebooted my computer and I am still having the same issue
[22:50] <stsm> Maranatha, its probably update-manager then
[22:50] <stsm> or whats it called
[22:50] <arand> Maranatha: and if you check "ps -A | grep apt" does it show apt as running?
[22:50] <Maranatha> let me check
[22:51] <Typos_King> techtronic:    I see your paste.... what does all that mean in the end?
[22:51] <Maranatha>  2159 ?        00:00:00 aptd
[22:51] <techtronic> Typos_King: yep this is old distro :|
[22:52] <Zenker> what is the key's for when a program freezes up and u cannot even move your mouse (like ctrl alt del)
[22:53] <Maranatha> would multiload-applet-2 be stopping it?
[22:53] <Roasted> Is there any way I acn let my laptop run for 12 hours and have it record how many times it loses connection to my wireless in a text file?
[22:53]  * switchgirl has a dns issue and requires a little help via skype
[22:53] <techtronic> Typos_King: grub cant moutn (hd0,1) but why ?
[22:53] <switchgirl> any offers?
[22:54] <laron> I'd like to monitor the websites trafficing through our network, is there a recomended tool for this or a better channel to ask such a question on?
[22:54] <gaurav__> how to install themes using gdm2 in karmic kola
[22:54] <laron> not raw packets but straight urls
[22:54] <airtonix> gaurav__, using gconf as the gdm user
[22:54] <Typos_King_> ....argg... well
[22:54] <Typos_King_> techtronic:      I can tell it's so, but what do you mean with all that, what's the matter?
[22:55] <airtonix> gaurav__, or use gd2setup
[22:55] <leagris> laron youd like to setup a proxy gateway with something like squid and squidguard maybe
[22:55] <airtonix> gaurav__, i mean : gdm2setup.py
[22:55] <Zenker> sometimes when im mesh modeling in blender my sys freezes and i cannot even move my mouse, is there anything i can do besides an emergency shut down (besides holding in the power button till it shuts off)
[22:55] <gaurav__> how to use that
[22:55] <gaurav__> where from i get
[22:55] <Maranatha> arand: this is what I get when I put in " ps -A | grep apt
[22:55] <Maranatha> "  2159 ?        00:00:00 aptd
[22:55] <gaurav__> this
[22:56] <leagris> Zenker, is that problem showed with packaged blender or blender binary from blender.org?
[22:56] <Zenker> blender from blender.org, in fact its blender 2.49b
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[22:56] <gaurav__> airtonix help dude
[22:56] <arand> Maranatha: So I think that is the apt daemon, meaning that in some way pat is running, possibly update manager working in the background as suggested
[22:56] <blocky> anyone know why if I do find ./ -name *.cpp it works fine but find ./ -name *.h says "paths must precede expression"
[22:57] <leagris> Zenker, blender is one of the few tools I prefer to use the version built from the project site because of consistency with behaviour and features.
[22:57] <Maranatha> arand: I went to System Moniter and killed the Update Manager
[22:57] <airtonix> arand, best ask it in #bash
[22:57] <Losha> blocky: are you quoting the *.h i.e. '*.h'. You need the quotes...
[22:58] <Zenker> leagris but isnt 2.49b supposed to have some bug fixes and other features corrected?
[22:58] <airtonix> arand, woops... i mean blocky
[22:58] <DarkTao> i'm not sure if this is possible, but can a shell script be coded so it executes arbitrary commands on a file thats dropped onto it? IE. like how windows batch scripts work?
[22:58] <Roasted> Is there any way I acn let my laptop run for 12 hours and have it record how many times it loses connection to my wireless in a text file?
[22:58] <Typos_King> techtronic:      I can tell it's so, but what do you mean with all that, what's the matter?
[22:58] <leagris> Zenker, it is
[22:58] <steven_> hello all i need help
[22:58] <gaurav__> how to use gdm2 to install themes
[22:58] <Typos_King> techtronic:      sorry but my irc connection dropped a bit :{
[22:59] <steven_> i download d&d but i dont know how to install it
[22:59] <Zenker> leagris i guess i should see exactly what the diff's are and if they even matter 2 me :)
[22:59] <airtonix> gaurav__, do you know about ppa?
[22:59] <airtonix> !ppa | gaurav__
[23:00] <gaurav__> no
[23:00] <arand> gaurav__: options are very limited, suggest using: https://launchpad.net/~gdm2setup/+archive/gdm2setup
[23:00] <gaurav__> dude
[23:00] <airtonix> gaurav__, so knowing about ppas you can google : thing ppa. voila : https://launchpad.net/gdm2setup
[23:00] <airtonix> gaurav__, its very simple.
[23:01] <Four20> hello everyone
[23:01] <DarkTao> Four20, hello :)
[23:01] <dragon64> hello 4:20
[23:01] <Typos_King> allo Four20
[23:01] <steven_> four20: can you help me
[23:02] <Four20> i am a first time ubuntu user and some help
[23:02] <DarkTao> Need some help, i'm not sure if this is possible, but can a shell script be coded so it executes arbitrary commands on a file thats dropped onto it? IE. like how windows batch scripts work?
[23:02] <computer_> quit
[23:02] <steven_> ok i see if i can help you out 4 20
[23:02] <gaurav__> how can i install themes
[23:03] <gaurav__> i have gdm2 setup
[23:03] <Typos_King> !themes | gaurav__
[23:03] <Four20> well steven i really dont know where to start
[23:03] <Four20> lol
[23:03] <PsychoticEGG> Hey new to Ubuntu here and having a slight problem
[23:03] <steven_> ok i try to help you what you need
[23:04] <PsychoticEGG> My screen is stretched a bit past my TV's perameters
[23:04] <airtonix> DarkTao, yes files dropped in scripts are taklen as args
[23:04] <dragon64> what up psycho
[23:04] <Losha> gaurav__: I found this via google: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1336569
[23:04] <airtonix> DarkTao, best ask it in #bash
[23:04] <DarkTao> thanks airtonix
[23:04] <Four20> well i was trying to aquire the hp printer software thru the software center and it says its waiting on another soft manager to finish
[23:05] <PsychoticEGG> I can't see the top and bottom bars. I'm using a Panasonic 32" viera.
[23:05] <steven_> 4 20 i cant help you with that srooy :(
[23:05] <Losha> DarkTao: the shell knows nothing about drag and drop, so if it's going to work, it's going to be done by your desktop manager, so you might look at the docs for that....
[23:05] <zvacet> Four20 : check that synaptic,update manager are not running
[23:05] <Typos_King> DarkTao:   possible, yes, the OS uses a communication service, in win32 is called DDE I think, in *nix... depends, in kde is called dcopserver or just dcop and/or dbus.... gui apps use it.. as far as bash ones... dunno
[23:06] <PsychoticEGG> anyone?
[23:06] <dragon64> Four20, if neither of them are running there is most likely a lock file somewhere under /var
[23:06] <steven_> need help with D&D online i cant play it
[23:06] <airtonix> DarkTao, also, if you open ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts (create the folder if it does not exist) and make a test blank file there... then right click on the desktop you will see a new entry in your context menu... seleect to open the scripts folder and you will get an intro to the variables used by the nautiluscript system
[23:06] <Losha> PsychoticEGG: did you make edits to your xorg.conf to get the tv display working?
[23:06] <arand> gaurav__: You can't install gdm themes in karmic gdm, only change window control/border theme, icons and background image.
[23:06] <PsychoticEGG> How?
[23:06] <Four20> i recieved this error adduser 3.112ubuntu1
[23:06] <Four20> app-install-data 0.10.04.5
[23:06] <Four20> aptdaemon 0.11+bzr322-0ubuntu2
[23:06] <Four20> base-files 5.0.0ubuntu10
[23:06] <Four20> base-passwd 3.5.22
[23:06] <FloodBot4> Four20: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:06] <Four20> busybox-initramfs 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu9
[23:07] <PsychoticEGG> I opened Nvidia tried changing resolution. nothing.
[23:07] <PsychoticEGG> And in windows I have an "adjust screen" option. but not in Ubuntu
[23:07] <Losha> Four20: try again, but put the text onto a page at  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[23:07] <zvacet> Four20 : what are you trying to install
[23:08] <steven_> m00se: can you help me
[23:08] <bobstro> Psychoholic:  this is a tv? my buddy had same issue today, so i'm also interested.
[23:08] <Zenker> leagris it seems that some important bugs were fixed check this page  http://www.blender.org/development/release-logs/blender-249/features-and-fixes/   and also there was a lot of things added, check out this one as well   http://www.blender.org/development/release-logs/blender-249/
[23:08] <airtonix> PsychoticEGG, what you do in windows is irrelevant when you use ubuntu. did you install the nvidia drivers ? (sounds like you did)
[23:08] <PsychoticEGG> Ya TV.
[23:08] <m00se> I m a mOOse!
[23:08] <m00se> what's up steve
[23:08] <PsychoticEGG> ya I installed the drivers.
[23:08] <fraco> olaaaa
[23:08] <PsychoticEGG> Ubuntu suggested them
[23:08] <airtonix> !es | fraco
[23:08] <bobstro> Psychoholic:  hdmi input?
[23:08] <PsychoticEGG> yes
[23:08] <steven_> ok i dwonload d&d but i dont think i install it right
[23:08] <PsychoticEGG> brb
[23:09] <airtonix> steven_, d&d doesnt mean much
[23:09] <Mowee> Night o/
[23:09] <m00se> steven_...so what happens/doesn't happen
[23:09] <Zenker> leagris i guess ill just have 2 remember to be on dat save button constantly :)
[23:09] <steven_> m00se: ? i can play in i dose nothing
[23:10] <DarkTao> airtonix, the guys in #bash just basically told me to go elsewhere LOL
[23:10] <PsychoticEGG> back
[23:10] <DarkTao> very helpful
[23:10] <PsychoticEGG> DVI to HDMI input
[23:10] <Zenker> i wish i knew how to put 2.49b into the repos n everything needed to make it work flawlessly . sigh. but oh well
[23:10] <bobstro> PsychoticEGG:  have you seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1088732
[23:10] <gaurav__> how to install wine
[23:10] <gaurav__> in karmic koala
 m00se: ? i can play in i dose nothing .. anybody wanna try and take a crack at what that means?
[23:10] <Losha> DarkTao: I once went to #openbsd with a question, and was treated *abominably*...
[23:10] <bobstro> PsychoticEGG:  that's what i'm pointing him to.
[23:11] <PsychoticEGG> nope. thx. I'll read that before posting on here again.
[23:11] <trism> DarkTao: all you need to do is create a launcher and have the command as /path/to/script.sh %F then whatever you drag on to the launcher will show up in the script as $1
[23:11] <m00se> bbiab sorry
[23:11] <steven_> m00se: how do i install in
[23:11] <PsychoticEGG> \/\/007 70 7ry!|\|9
[23:11] <alset> gaurav__: have you tried installing it via Synaptic Package Manager?
[23:11] <DarkTao> fantastic, thanks trism =D
[23:12] <bobstro> PsychoticEGG:  no guarantees -- that's just what i've found so far.
[23:12] <steven_> it not in srooy
[23:13] <MrPiracy> how can i disable login/startup/shutdown/logout annoying sound in karmic?
[23:13] <YurtleTheTurtle> I'm getting "Connection refused" when i'm connecting between two computers on my lan. I have MoBlock installed and i have disabled it but i'm still getting the error. could anyone help me diagnose this? (The port is 51234)
[23:13] <gaurav__> no how to install using synaptic package manger
[23:14] <Typos_King> MrPiracy:   ubuntu, kubuntu?
[23:14] <MrPiracy> Typos_King: ubuntu
[23:14] <jasonmchristos> ubuntu is great if they would just stop releasing betas as finals
[23:14] <DarkTao> trism, I'm making a script for secure remove, what do I use in the srm command to tell it its using the file being dropped onto it?
[23:15] <alset> gaurav__: open synaptic package manager (system>>administration>>) then search for "wine" in the search box
[23:15] <zvacet> gaurav__:  http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[23:15] <MrPiracy> jasonmchristos: can u name ONE os that has reached it's final version?
[23:15] <steven_> m00se you still here
[23:15] <jasonmchristos> MrPiracy: but they add all these pograms like mpathy to the final that are so buggy they are unusable for the average user
[23:15] <alset> gaurav__: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb instead of my instructions. ;)
[23:16] <wowa> ist das deutsche chat?
[23:16] <trism> DarkTao: well, %F in the command just expands to the absolute path of the file dragged onto the launcher, so you could just use it as an argument to srm I guess (although that sounds kind of dangerous to me...oops I didn't really mean to delete that)
[23:16] <zvacet> wowa:  no,
[23:16] <alset> !de | wowa
[23:16] <MrPiracy> !german > wowa
[23:16] <Losha> bobstro: PsychoticEGG: I have a tv setup with an nvidia card, but it's an older analog tv. Anyway, in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in the "Device" section, there is an option called  "TVOverScan" and it's current is "0.6". You might try this in yours...
[23:17] <Typos_King> MrPiracy:   System > Preferences > Sound, there's a tab for different alerts and sounds/notifications
[23:17] <steven_> m00se: i try it open with wine and it say C:/users/steven/temlis-8A1EP.temp/PostInstallRunner.dil
[23:17] <DarkTao> trism, yeah but how do i use it as an argument?
[23:17] <Losha> bobstro: PsychoticEGG: current -> current value
[23:17] <tiki> i get HUGE audio lag in skype. how do i fix this without removing pulse (all of my sound applets and pther controls go when i do so)
[23:17] <jasonmchristos> ubuntu-server is great very powerful and anyone can get it awesome A++
[23:18] <MrPiracy> Typos_King: i dont see that
[23:18] <steven_> can some help me
[23:18] <trism> DarkTao: if this is in a bash script, the argument will be in the $1 variable, so you could do: srm $1 (assuming srm just deletes it's arguments, I've never used it before...that would work for normal rm though)
[23:19] <Adola_lap> Good evening!  I need to make some german umlauts.  However, I'm using an english keyboard, how can I remedy this?
[23:19] <DarkTao> trism, okay I'll try that, one sec
[23:19] <MrPiracy> Typos_King: there is a theme drop box for me too choose from 3 sound presets
[23:19] <trism> DarkTao: probably want to quote it, in cause it has spaces in the path
[23:19] <steven_> what this mean   C:/users/steven/temlis-8A1EP.temp/PostInstallRunner.dil
[23:20] <nightsjammies> I'm running in low graphics mode; how do I fix that?
[23:20] <DarkTao> trism, well that was easy :D it just removed the file lol
[23:20] <tiki> i get HUGE audio lag in skype. how do i fix this without removing pulse (all of my sound applets and pther controls go when i do so)
[23:20] <sanguisdex> so I just upgraded to 9.10 and now I can't get my 'older' ati card to hook up to the telly can any one  help?
[23:20] <steven_> asgard: can you help me
[23:21] <Typos_King> MrPiracy:   ... I see... ahe.... I'm on kubuntu.... soooo.... here  is under 'notifications' ^_^... in gnome  iirc is in that section
[23:21] <Guest33915> !list
[23:21] <IdleOne> sanguisdex: you need to install the drivers. look in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers to see if it offers any or see !ati
[23:22] <gaurav__> wine in karmic koala plz give me a command to insatll it
[23:22] <steven_> asgard:  i try D&D open with wine and it say C:/users/steven/temlis-8A1EP.temp/PostInstallRunner.dil
[23:22] <Losha> jasonmchristos: they don't really have any choice, since they've committed to a release date long before they know what shape the code is really in. Since the release date is fixed, they either have to drop features, or releae them before they're ready. I presume it's easier to release them and then update them later. It seems to take about 2 more months for a release to stabilise...
[23:22] <IdleOne> gaurav__: sudo apt-get install wine
[23:22] <erUSUL> !wine | gaurav__
[23:22] <epaphus> hey guys... i have sound from my integrated sound card.. but when doing voip.. the sound is very low, and people also hear me VERY low... i went into the preferences and put the sound to the maximum but no luck. Is there anything else i can do?
[23:22] <erUSUL> !software | gaurav__
[23:23] <gautamadude> my friend uses a PowerPC based computer and uses YouTube and some flash PokerGame, should I install Gnash or Swfdec?
[23:24] <Adola_lap> I need to make some german umlauts.  However, I'm using an english keyboard, how can I remedy this?
[23:24] <Roasted> Is there any way I acn let my laptop run for 12 hours and have it record how many times it loses connection to my wireless in a text file?
[23:24] <IdleOne> !flash | gautamadude
[23:25] <willa> Yay! I successfully installed Ubuntu 9.10 as an upgrade from Update Manager! After 3 tries in as many months. :)
[23:25] <spidoodle> UBUNTU IS AWESOME
[23:25] <IdleOne> willa: :)
[23:25] <willa> Thanks to everyone who helped!
[23:25] <DarkTao> trism, is it possible to show the terminal window as it executes the commands?
[23:26] <willa> Now for the new problem... I seem to have activated a server other than the LAMPP that I used to have. How do I de-activate it?
[23:26] <FriedrichMan> hi everyone!
[23:26] <trism> DarkTao: yes, you could do something like xterm -e /path/to/script.sh; or the equivalent for gnome-terminal
[23:26] <DarkTao> trism, ah thank you :D
[23:27] <trism> DarkTao: -x for gnome-terminal I believe
[23:27] <FriedrichMan> is there a way to configurate sendmail to use gmail's smtp?
[23:27] <airtonix> Adola_lap, have a look in your keyboard layout config
[23:27] <Appetite> running 9.10 minimal (no gui) how can i change the time before the computer goes to screensaver (from command line)?
[23:28] <Shadow__X> hello i tried install natatalk on ubuntu 9.10 and it doesnt install successfully dpkg gives out errors
[23:28] <airtonix> Adola_lap, system > preferences > keyboard | layout tab >layout options.
[23:28] <linxeh> there is a command to do that but I cant remember what it is
[23:28] <linxeh> some dpms thing
[23:28] <airtonix> linxeh, ?
[23:28] <Losha> FriedrichMan: Are you sure you need the full power of sendmail? If all you're doing is sending outgoing mails thru gmail you can usually get by with ssmtp, which is much easier to configure...
[23:28] <erUSUL> !smtp | FriedrichMan
[23:29] <linxeh> Appetite: setterm
[23:29] <linxeh> airtonix: ?
[23:29] <Appetite> ill try it linxeh
[23:29] <hardbop200> argh! I've removed the network manager, email and power icons from the upper-right side of my top gnome panel. I can't seem to find these items in "add to panel", can someone give me a tip on how to get these back?
[23:29] <linxeh> oh I see I missed the nick of my first message. mybad
[23:29] <airtonix> linxeh, ?
[23:30] <upgrdman> i am trying to add a printer that is at /dev/ttyUSB0. when i run the add printer wizard, then choose "other" for the device, it asks for a URI. entering localhost://dev/ttyUSB0 does not seem to work. am i not properly formatting it?
[23:30] <linxeh> airtonix: bored with this now. let's move on
[23:30] <FriedrichMan> what I need is to somehow use it from a script... so whenever the crome finds it needs to send me an email about my system status it can do it
[23:30] <airtonix> upgrdman, it does not simply get detected by the add printer app ?
[23:30] <sanguisdex> IdleOne: none avaible
[23:30] <DarkTao> trism, right just one more thing! :P how do I make the terminal wait, for example after the command is complete, i have to press enter for the window to exit
[23:31] <IdleOne> sanguisdex: none of what?
[23:31] <trism> hardbop200: network manager is in the notification area, the others may be as well
[23:31] <upgrdman> airtonix, no. its actually a vinyl cutter, and i need to add it as a raw printer for my software to be able to use it
[23:31] <airtonix> DarkTao, trism , a while loop that waits for key input ?
[23:31] <hardbop200> trism: yes, that would be it.
[23:31] <IdleOne> !ati | sanguisdex
[23:31] <upgrdman> airtonix, part of the issue is that it is a usb cutter, but it has a usb/serial converter build into the cutter. dmesg shows the proper modules being loading and creating the new /dev device for it
[23:32] <airtonix> upgrdman, and in the past you've been able to use localhost://dev-etc-etc
[23:32] <lucano> #neibo
[23:32] <lucano> join #niebo
[23:32] <upgrdman> airtonix, never tried it before
[23:32] <lucano> help
[23:32] <dsnyders> Hi all!   Is there a replacement for audacity?  Since my upgrade to 9.04, it has been acting strange (stuttering, stalling, etc).
[23:32] <hardbop200> trism: right, so I've now added the notification area back...any ideas on how to get those specific items back?
[23:32] <IdleOne> lucano: /join #niebo
[23:32]  * switchgirl wonders how to connect to facebook chat as http://planet.pidgin.im/ doesnt work
[23:33] <trism> DarkTao: add: read -p "Press any key to continue..." to the end of the script, that should work
[23:33] <airtonix> upgrdman, ok because one thing that doesnt seem right is that you have : localhost:// and you have /dev/device.... so it should be : localhost:///dev/device
[23:33] <DarkTao> trism, brilliant, thank you so much for helping me :)
[23:33] <DarkTao> time to test it all now :)
[23:33] <lucano> quit
[23:33] <trism> DarkTao: you're welcome, hope it all works
[23:33] <jkd4> switchgirl: you can use a browser based messenger
[23:33] <airtonix> DarkTao, you might find the use of zenity in your scripts interesting (they provide gui inteaction)
[23:34] <switchgirl> i want to use pidgin
[23:34] <upgrdman> airtonix, i just tried that, but i still get the same error: There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-not-possible'.
[23:34] <jkd4> switchgirl: you just said it doesnt work
[23:34] <IdleOne> switchgirl: the pidgin wensite has a plugin you can install
[23:34] <IdleOne> website*
[23:34] <airtonix> !info pidgin-facebookchat  | switchgirl
[23:34] <PsychoticEGG> So I'm back
[23:34] <IdleOne> switchgirl: ahh the repos have it also
[23:34] <PsychoticEGG> and My problem remains the same.
[23:35] <switchgirl> airtonix: that's out of date
[23:35] <trism> hardbop200: I would first try just logging out then back in, if they don't show up immediately (at least for the network manager applet, I don't know about the others)
[23:35] <DarkTao> airtonix, thanks I'll look into that, I like the fact Linux lets me make my own solutions to things I need :)
[23:35] <airtonix> switchgirl, thank you
[23:35] <hardbop200> trism: thank you, that's an easy first thing to try :) I'll do it and report back, thank you!
[23:36] <upgrdman> airtonix, i think dmesg might be telling me something i don't understand. can I priv. chat with you the related output of dmesg?
[23:36] <switchgirl> http://www.techshout.com/internet/2009/06/facebook-chat-lends-xmpp-support/ airtonix
[23:36] <airtonix> DarkTao, depending on how curious and brave you feel... you might also start using other languages... a bash script can actually use any language providing the shebang line specifies the language first
[23:36] <Losha> PsychoticEGG: Did you see my msg about the overscan parameter?
[23:36] <PsychoticEGG> to recap I have a 32" HDTV that is set as my one and only monitor and the Resolution isn't fitting in it properly. any way to manually resize would be handy. Input is DVI to HDMI from and Nvidia 9800 GSO
[23:37] <airtonix> upgrdman, it would be better to have more than myself see the info. many eyes make short work etc etc
[23:37] <upgrdman> airtonix, is there some place i can post the ~10 lines instead of flooding this channel?
[23:37] <airtonix> switchgirl, i dont use facebook. all i did was use : apt-cache search pidgin | grep face
[23:37] <Pegaso> hola
[23:37] <IdleOne> !paste | upgrdman
[23:37] <airtonix> upgrdman, pastebin.com i think
[23:37] <PsychoticEGG> I have a 32" HDTV that is set as my one and only monitor and the Resolution isn't fitting in it properly. any way to manually resize would be handy. Input is DVI to HDMI from and Nvidia 9800 GSO
[23:38] <Losha> PsychoticEGG: Did you see my msg about the overscan parameter?
[23:38] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Audacity plays about 2-3 secs of my mp3 (if that) then stalls, What gives?
[23:38] <shubbar> i having a printing problem
[23:38] <airtonix> IdleOne, has pastebinit been fixed? or does one still have to use a script to pass on the proper domain to use?
[23:38] <PsychoticEGG> ya. That was for dual monitors. and there was no solution in that thread. despite it saying solved
[23:38] <upgrdman> airtonix, http://paste.ubuntu.com/399596/
[23:38] <switchgirl> airtonix: why use a extra plugin - why xmpp works
[23:39] <shubbar> print jobs are stuck in the spool, even just printing to a pdf file with cups
[23:39] <nightsjammies> is it possible to install xp alongside of 'buntu without having to reinstall 'buntu again?
[23:39] <airtonix> switchgirl, no idea, like i said i dont use the plugin nor do i use facebook.
[23:39] <Losha> airtonix: pastebinit is broken on hardy. I installed the one from lucid onto hardy, and that worked...
[23:39] <Typos_King> dsnyders:   why are you using audacity to play mp3s?  :P  use .. amarok or something
[23:39] <Ciaphas> I have a question, does anyone have a good suggestion for a replacement for Microsoft OneNote? I've become somewhat addicted to the way I can freeform arrange notes and soem of the other features.
[23:39] <PsychoticEGG> Nightsjammies: You need windows installed before Linux.
[23:39] <Typos_King> nightsjammies:    what do  you mean, 'alongside'?
[23:40] <IdleOne> airtonix: I have no idea
[23:40] <airtonix> Losha, at the moment im using a script in ~/bin/pastebinit to send the supplied stdin and the proper domain name...
[23:40] <nightsjammies> yeah, that's what I thought..
[23:40] <IdleOne> airtonix: guess you could test it
[23:40] <Typos_King> Ciaphas:    dunno OneNote.. what does it do?   there's Tomboy notes, or Knotes, which are sticky-note pads
[23:40] <nightsjammies> meaning, I really don't want to have to reinstall linux again. Oh well.
[23:40] <airtonix> upgrdman, you think that line 14 is your device ?
[23:40] <dsnyders> Typos_King, I'm trying to use it to trim some "fluff" from a file - commercials, leading/trailing audio
[23:41] <Typos_King> nightsjammies:    you don't need xp installed before linux, btw
[23:41] <steven_> i need help
[23:41] <switchgirl> Ciaphas: what the...... i was trying to look up the one note thing.... microsoft spy on you
[23:41] <Typos_King> nightsjammies:    is simpler if you do, sure, but no mandatory
[23:41] <Ciaphas> switchgirl: Wait, what?
[23:41] <airtonix> dsnyders, does it do this with all mp3s ?
[23:41] <switchgirl> One Moment Please... To help optimize how your Web pages are displayed, we are  checking to see if a 2007 Microsoft Office program is installed. If this page does not automatically redirect, you have scripts  disabled. See  more information on scripts. Follow  this link if the page is not redirected.
[23:41] <PsychoticEGG> I have a 32" HDTV that is set as my one and only monitor and the Resolution isn't fitting in it properly. any way to manually resize would be handy. Input is DVI to HDMI from and Nvidia 9800 GSO
[23:41] <nightsjammies> I don't? what problems will I run into?
[23:41] <Ciaphas> switchgirl: Weird.
[23:41] <upgrdman> airtonix, yes. it is.
[23:41] <switchgirl> yay for no script
[23:42] <steven_> i can play d&d
[23:42] <switchgirl> Ciaphas: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/onenote/default.aspx soo
[23:42] <dsnyders> airtonix, all the ones I've tried.  It was working fine before my 8.10->9.04 upgrade.
[23:42] <Ciaphas> Agreed. That and BetterPrivacy and Ghostery.
[23:42] <airtonix> upgrdman, ok i also notice that you either have another printer or that lines 17 onwards are also something to do with your vinyl cutter
[23:42] <racerd> !pulse
[23:42] <IdleOne> !windows | switchgirl
[23:43] <airtonix> upgrdman, can you unplug the vinyl cutter and pastebin lsusb again please ?
[23:43] <switchgirl> i was talking about the fact ubuntu and freesoftware rocks while trying to look up the one note thing for Ciaphas so... umm yeah airtonix
[23:43] <[Evan]> I'm sorry to ask such a simple-sounding question. How can I make a super-simple "hello world" deb package? Is there a sample "hello world" deb already out there that I could look at?
[23:43] <airtonix> switchgirl, ciaphas? you mean ciphers?
[23:43] <jazzyy> herro
[23:44] <shubbar> nightsjammies, u need to fix the boot loader after installing xp
[23:44] <Ciaphas> No, my name.
[23:44] <nightsjammies> okay. how do I do that?
[23:44] <airtonix> [Evan], i believe there is such a demonstration.
[23:44] <Typos_King_> nightsjammies:      xp will kick out Grub from the MBR of the 1st HD, and will stick NTLDR, but you can use the live-cd to kick out NTLDR and put Grub back in
[23:44] <Typos_King_> crap... this irc connection is a bit jumpy :}
[23:44] <switchgirl> (23:39:43) Ciaphas: I have a question, does anyone have a good suggestion for a replacement for Microsoft OneNote? I've become somewhat addicted to the way I can freeform arrange notes and soem of the other features. <no i mean Ciaphas>
[23:44] <nightsjammies> umm..that's complete spanish to me me typos
[23:45] <airtonix> [Evan], have you looked at this age yet ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[23:45] <jazzyy> Okay, I'm running a LiveCD of Karmic Koala. I want to run the USB Creator thingamajig so I can run persistant files ( cannot install ubuntu on HDD as its not exactly mine, but ill be using it for a while). Anyway, I run the USB Creator, reboot, and BAM, when I try to boot it up it simply says 'Missing operating system'
[23:45] <jazzyy> Anyhelp?
[23:45] <nightsjammies> any good walkthroughs that you know of Typos?
[23:45] <jazzyy> I tried the walkthrough to install it but its exactly the same as i did
[23:45] <[Evan]> airtonix: No, I hadn't seen that. I'll check it out.
[23:45] <Typos_King_> nightsjammies:      gimme a sec, I'll paste something
[23:45] <airtonix> switchgirl, ok. i have no experience with onenote.
[23:45] <jazzyy> dunno what i did wrong or if my PC can't boot the USB, but it shows up on the Bios Boot screen and when i attempt to bott it just gives me hat fuck up
[23:45] <dsnyders> switchgirl, there is something called basketnotes (or something).  Many people, including me, are looking for a onenote replacement.
[23:45] <nightsjammies> Okay, thanks much..:)
[23:46] <shubbar> nightsjammies, good questions. I did that a long time ago but cannot remember...
[23:46] <airtonix> [Evan], i think there is another page you''ll want on that site but it may not be linked from there (its an actual hello world example of a deb packing process
[23:46] <switchgirl> airtonix:  nore i i was just looking it up as i havent come accross it and then i could suggest somthing for Ciaphas
[23:46] <dsnyders> Typos_King, Is there another app I could use to edit the mp3?
[23:47] <GoldShadow> firefox work slow when i visited some website
[23:47] <airtonix> dsnyders, i have no experience with onenote, but does freemynd or tomboy or some of the wiki based note takers not do the job for you ?
[23:47]  * genii ponders npviewer.bin
[23:47] <nightsjammies> I swear, my daughter is 4 going on adult >.<
[23:47] <spidoodle> ^^^haha
[23:47] <[Evan]> GoldShadow: There are a million reasons firefox could be slow; please be more specific.
[23:48] <nightsjammies> hey, has anyone bothered trying to get video to work in rhythmbox?
[23:48] <Ciaphas> arirtonix: Wiki based note takers go some of the distance, but the ability to take screenshots directly into the app, flow text however you want without having to rely on markup, etc. are features we get used to in OneNote.
[23:48] <switchgirl> anyway Ciaphas dsnyders http://www.osalt.com/onenote
[23:48] <bliffle> leave
[23:48] <bliffle> quit
[23:49] <airtonix> Ciaphas, i see. i use tiddlywiki with some extra plugins that provide wysiwyg note taking
[23:49] <GoldShadow> i think that is from flash
[23:49] <Ciaphas> Thanks switchgirl.
[23:49] <PsychoticEGG> nobody has any help for an HDTV monior?
[23:49] <kop_> bliffle, /quit
[23:49] <dsnyders> airtonix, Not familiar with freemynd, but tomboy is too lightweight, and the wiki based note takers want you to format text using wiki markup, rather than wysiwig.
[23:50] <steven_> wine is not working right
[23:50] <IdleOne> Ciaphas: also take a look at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/427
[23:50] <spidoodle> wine never works right be more specfiic
[23:50] <Ciaphas> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/427
[23:50] <Ciaphas> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/427
[23:50] <airtonix> dsnyders, ok, if your ok with using tiddlywiki you can get a plugin for it that lets you use fckeditor or one of the other wysiwyg editors
[23:50] <kop_> stevevn drink more
[23:50] <steven_> i can install nothing with wine like d&d online
[23:51] <steven_> kop_: lol
[23:51] <shubbar> nightsjammies, using xp loader http://www.icpug.org.uk/national/linnwin/step1-xp.htm
[23:51] <spidoodle> steven_:reinstall that shit
[23:51] <steven_> ?
[23:51] <dsnyders> airtonix, does it let you cut/paste pictures into your notes?
[23:51] <Typos_King_> nightsjammies:      http://pastebin.ca/1849824   <-- not sure if you need to mount the XP partition, but it may be a better idea, anyhow, grub-install  will kick out ntldr and put grub back in
[23:52] <IdleOne> !language | spidoodle
[23:52] <Guest32174> how to get help related to terminal
[23:52] <shubbar> nightsjammies, or using grub, http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[23:52] <airtonix> dsnyders, i believe so : http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html#WysiwygDemo
[23:52] <spidoodle> my sorry i aplogize to everyone in hear
[23:52] <IdleOne> Guest32174: ask a question
[23:52] <spidoodle> here wow i need to go back to school for english haha
[23:52] <nightsjammies> Okay, thanks much. I'll take a look at both of those links :)
[23:52] <Fopp|Newbie> Hi guys
[23:53] <Fopp|Newbie> Hopefully a quick question, I don't seem to be able to use my bluetooth in ubuntu. The help page said to install gnome-user-share. I have, but still can't use it.
[23:53] <spidoodle> is 10.4 out
[23:53] <Fopp|Newbie> Any advice? thanks.
[23:53] <Guest32174> nutrulias
[23:53] <steven_> it say c:/user/steven/templis-8A1EP.tmplPostInstallrunner.dill
[23:53] <Pici> spidoodle: is it April 29th?
[23:53] <Guest32174> what this command means
[23:53] <Typos_King_> nightsjammies:     btw, I have a typo, is meant tobe 'mkdir', no 'mkdidr' :{
[23:53] <Typos_King_> but anyhow
[23:54] <spidoodle> Pici:no but i dont know i have looked into ubuntu in ike a year
[23:54] <airtonix> dsnyders, down side is that its browser based(but then it'll work on any OS) so it might get a bit slow when you have lots of content...but its also portable.
[23:54] <IdleOne> Guest32174: what command?
[23:54] <eremite> Guest32174: are you sure you do not mean Nautilus?
[23:54] <dsnyders> airtonix, I'll check it out.  OneNote hits a sweet spot though.  Freeform enough to use during a lecture, but having bulletting, numbering, etc.  Also, on a tablet it does handwriting and drawing.
[23:54] <Pici> spidoodle: 10.04 is scheduled to be released on April 29th 2010.  More Lucid (10.04) discussion in #ubuntu+1
[23:54] <airtonix> dsnyders, sounds pretty sweet
[23:55] <spidoodle> Pici: hey thanks man thats good stuff right there
[23:55] <Guest32174>  Nautilus
[23:55] <holmser> I am having trouble setting up vsFTPd.  I can upload files, but in order to access them I keep having to chmod everything I upload
[23:55] <Guest32174> what is this command
[23:56] <erUSUL> Guest32174: nautilus is the genome file browser
[23:56] <leagris> and Ubuntu Fool Fish is due for April 1st
[23:56] <willa> What is a good chat location for problems with LAMPP?
[23:56] <Fopp|Newbie> Lol, fool fish.
[23:56] <upgrdman> airtonix, sorry i closed xchat by accident. here is dmesg after unplugging and plugging back in the cutter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/399601/
[23:56] <airtonix> dsnyders, Zim looks like it doesnt require markup.
[23:56] <wowa> join #ubuntu-de
[23:56] <Guest32174> how can we use it
[23:57] <upgrdman> airtonix, and now one more line shows up from dmesg: [1190813.152944] type=1503 audit(1269302167.968:28): operation="open" pid=27304 parent=2163 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" requested_mask="rw::" denied_mask="rw::" fsuid=0 ouid=0 name="/dev/ttyUSB0"
[23:57] <airtonix> upgrdman, ah yes have you used lsusb before ?
[23:58] <leagris> !pastebin | upgrdman
[23:58] <upgrdman> airtonix, yes http://paste.ubuntu.com/399602/
[23:58] <airtonix> upgrdman, i just found : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=354519
[23:59] <airtonix> upgrdman, is that lsub taken while the vinyl cutter is unplugged ?
[23:59] <dsnyders> airtonix, Here's a onenote screnshot:  http://www.microsoft.com/library/media/1033/windows/products/winfamily/mobility/images/screen-onenote-mixednote.gif