[12:51] <cjohnston> ivanka: ping
[12:55] <ivanka> cjohnston: hello
[12:55] <cjohnston> ivanka: mind a PM?
[12:56] <ivanka> cjohnston: not at all - but be warned I am in a bug filing frenzy so might be slow to respond - also, it's lunch time :-)
[12:56] <cjohnston> I see that
[13:13] <cjohnston> kwwii: could you take a look at bug 535644 when you get a moment please.
[13:13] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 535644 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "ardour menu bar text is unreadable with the radiance theme (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/535644
[13:16] <kwwii> cjohnston: will do
[13:17] <cjohnston> thanks.. :-)
[13:17] <vish> kwwii: courtesy chaotic > Bug #545008 ;p
[13:17] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 545008 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "Radiance panel gradient (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/545008
[13:17] <kwwii> cjohnston: in any case, it might not be fixed for karmic...let me fire up lucid and test it
[13:18] <kwwii> vish: you got that from him?
[13:18] <vish> kwwii: he has filed the bug
[13:18] <kwwii> ahh, I see
[13:18] <cjohnston> kwwii: I'll test it real quick..
[13:18]  * vish fought hard to pull the list down to <90 and then it is back >90 :(
[13:19] <kwwii> ouch, my system won't boot ;-(
[13:19] <cjohnston> :-(
[13:20] <vish> kwwii: there are a few wishlist bugs , which you should just close as "wont fix" ;)
[13:20] <kwwii> vish: the next update will fix many issues
[13:21] <cjohnston> off to take the kid to the doctor... 
[13:21] <kwwii> cjohnston: have fun, I'll check it out and comment on the bug
[13:22] <kwwii> wow, installing ardour requires 20+ other packages
[13:24] <kwwii> omg
[13:24] <kwwii> ardour uses some wierd theme of it's own
[13:25] <kwwii> not much i can do about that
[14:04] <rickspencer3> djsiegel1, hi
[15:36] <djsiegel1> hey rickspencer3
[15:36] <rickspencer3> djsiegel1, heya
[15:36] <rickspencer3> so I saw a bug on Compiz al-tab rendering icons in an ugly way
[15:37] <rickspencer3> basically scaling them up
[15:37] <rickspencer3> was wondering if there was some kind of compiz settings trickier you could do to make them smaller or something
[15:57] <djsiegel1> rickspencer3: no I don't think so
[15:57] <djsiegel1> rickspencer3: (sorry I got pulled away)
[15:58] <rickspencer3> djsiegel1, np
[15:58] <rickspencer3> djsiegel1, what should be do?
[15:58] <djsiegel1> rickspencer3: it finds icons associated with windows, and those icons are like 16px or something
[15:58] <djsiegel1> afaik the only way to get icons larger than 16px is via libwynksync
[15:58] <djsiegel1> or whatever it is called
[15:58] <djsiegel1> wnksync
[16:00] <djsiegel1> so I think our options are (1) use crappy icons (2) disable icons on window thumbs (3) ship libwynksync and patch compiz
[16:00] <rickspencer3> seb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/387828
[16:00] <ubot4`> rickspencer3: Error: Bug #387828 is private.
[16:00] <seb128> rickspencer3, looking
[16:00] <djsiegel1> I don't like (2) because then minimized windows have no discernible representation in alt-tab
[16:01] <seb128> I would say (3) is a no go
[16:01] <seb128> it's late to add an untested daemon in your default installation
[16:01] <seb128> our
[16:01] <djsiegel1> I don't know about "untested"
[16:02] <seb128> well we don't ship it and never did by default
[16:02] <djsiegel1> but it does seem pretty late
[16:02] <rickspencer3> we are not adding this to the desktop now
[16:02] <seb128> and it's used nowhere
[16:02] <rickspencer3> sorry, but it's not a viable option at this point in the cycle
[16:02] <djsiegel1> yeah seems to be too late to fix
[16:02] <seb128> I mean nothing in the current desktop make use of it even if installed
[16:02] <rickspencer3> though for sure, right when MM opens
[16:02] <seb128> so it means it's pretty much untested
[16:03] <rickspencer3> djsiegel1, is there a way to make those icons be not displayed so big in the compiz settings?
[16:04] <djsiegel1> rickspencer3: I don't think we can from compiz settings
[16:05] <rickspencer3> is that not from a compiz plugin?
[16:05] <djsiegel1> the window switcher is a plugin but it looks like the icon scaling is hard coded
[16:06] <rickspencer3> otherwise, I am afraid there is not much we can do for this in Lucid :(
[16:06] <djsiegel1> I don't see the option, let me check gconf
[16:06] <djsiegel1> I don't see anything in gconf for it
[16:08] <jcastro> Nafai: sorry I didn't respond I was out sick yesterday. Just hold tight on those bugs I guess.
[16:08] <Nafai> jcastro: Okay.  Hope you are feeling better
[16:08] <jcastro> the power of drugs. :D
[16:13] <Nafai> tell me about it :)
[16:13] <Nafai> that reminds me, need to take my new allergy meds
[16:39] <seb128> vish, hi
[16:40] <vish> hi..
[16:40] <seb128> vish, gnome-keyring, it seems so, to be honest I don't really care about that option but it should reported upstream by somebody who do
[16:40] <vish> seb128: ah , ok.. will submit upstrmeam
[16:41] <seb128> thanks
[16:42] <vish> ty
[19:27] <jcastro> smithj: ping
[20:37] <kklimonda> huh, the new status icons are.. way too round imo ;)
[20:47] <Nafai> kklimonda: Yeah, you barely see the "tail"
[20:50] <kklimonda> Nafai: they look fat :)
[20:50] <Nafai> heh