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xuzhoujimAnyone here to point me to a good starting place for solving some sound issues?12:14
sbalneavxuzhoujim: More information would be helpful.13:42
sbalneavhighvoltage: ping14:58
sbalneavstgraber: ping, aussi15:00
highvoltagesbalneav: pong15:02
sbalneavhey15:02
highvoltageI was just about to ping you guys too, howdy15:02
sbalneavok, I'm running into a common problem I run into all the time.15:02
sbalneavI'm trying to update a package.15:03
sbalneavBut it depends on ANOTHER updated package.15:03
sbalneavI'm trying to update davical, but it depends on phpawl15:03
sbalneavwhich the same guy produces15:03
sbalneavso I've got an updated phpawl15:03
sbalneav.deb15:03
highvoltagehow is it that you can't install the updated phpawl?15:03
sbalneavwell I can15:04
sbalneavbut it's not on the pbuilder15:04
sbalneavso, how does one build a package that depends on another updated package that's NOT in the archives yet15:04
highvoltageah I see.15:05
highvoltagewhen you build 'n pbuilder environment you can use --othermirror to specify your own mirror or a ppa15:05
highvoltageyou could use that to get around that15:05
highvoltage(brb)15:06
sbalneavah, ok15:06
highvoltageso...15:50
highvoltageabout the artwork15:50
highvoltagewhat background colour(s) should we go with for the startup screen (plymouth) background?15:50
highvoltageI'm thinking of having a light subtle background (like the main area on the wallpeper) with some green and orange hints (like the tree and the ground on the wallpaper)15:51
highvoltageI don't know whether there's any strong feelings about it.15:51
sbalneavNot really15:54
sbalneavArt wise, my taste's all in my mouth :)15:54
highvoltageheh15:58
sbalneavpbuilder build --othermirror "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/sbalneav/ppa/ubuntu karmic main"16:01
sbalneavW: /root/.pbuilderrc does not exist16:01
sbalneavE: Command line parameter [] is not a valid .dsc file name16:01
sbalneavSomething's not happy16:01
highvoltagesbalneav: I think you have to add that mirror when you do the pbuilder --create16:06
highvoltagesbalneav: and then you just pass the .dsc file when you do the 'build' command16:07
sbalneavah16:07
highvoltagestgraber: I agree with the change you made to hace the icons in the System menu, I say we should keep it.16:49
stgraberhighvoltage: ok16:50
stgraberI usually run with that on my desktop and it's in the default keys at RLNX for both internal and our customers16:50
stgraberI really liked that when I was running my desktop in Chinese ;)16:50
highvoltage*nod* the ucons are really important in cases where the text can't be read for whatever reason16:57
mgariepygood afternoon everyone17:18
highvoltagehi there mgariepy17:38
mgariepyhow you doing highvoltage ?17:50
highvoltagedoing good thanks and you?17:51
mgariepynot doing too bad.17:53
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joerghi18:06
highvoltagehi joerg18:10
joergany idea how I can get money for some open source education project?18:11
joergI know, the question is stupid18:13
joergbut I have got so many good ideas18:13
joergjust nobody to pay me for doing that stuff18:13
highvoltagejoerg: where are you again?18:15
joergin germany18:15
joergmost of my work is unpaid18:16
Lnsjoerg: care to elaborate on your "open source education project" ?18:16
joergand I can only do it, because I live in a house with parents, sister and dont have to pay for rent, food etc.18:16
joergLns, myserv-project.org18:17
joergthe education stuff is really annoying18:17
joergthe government always says: yes, gooood idea, but we don't have money.18:17
joergand then I mostly simply say: ok, gonna do the project anyway18:17
joergand after all they "find" some money.18:17
Lnsjoerg: wow looks like a very elaborate project!18:18
joergLns, wanna sponsor it? :D18:18
Lnsjoerg: I would but I don't see my customers in real need of something like that (yet)18:18
Lnsplus i'm really short of money too...heh, i need a bailout18:18
Lnsanyone know where i can sign up to get one?18:19
highvoltagejoerg: german government doesn't have money!?!?18:23
joergthey have18:24
joergbut for other things18:24
joergthe township that is responsible for the school buys hard and software18:25
joergstate government says: nooo, this is a software project - software is purchased by the towns18:25
joergthe state only pays the teachers.18:25
highvoltagejoerg: judging by the munich stuff, it doesn't seem like a good time for free software in germany atm, seems like there's a lot of politics around it18:25
highvoltagejoerg: aren't there private schools there running linux?18:26
joergthere are even public schools running linux18:26
joergand what happened to munich? :P18:26
highvoltagejoerg: http://slashdot.org/story/10/03/19/1633241/The-Woes-of-Munichs-Linux-Migration18:27
joergthe thing is not to convince them to use OSS, the thing is to get 200-300 hours of work paid :P on OSS18:27
highvoltagejoerg: ah one of those cases18:28
joerghmm18:30
joergprobably it is not that easy to live from projects like that....18:31
joergprobably I will spend all my life renting appartments here in town and work as an unpaid OSS developer....18:31
highvoltagejoerg: what many people do is diversify a bit, do some grunt work that is profitable even if you have to contract out some support work, then you can use that to subsidise your other project until it's more commercially viable18:39
vmlintujoerg: do the schools buy services over there? Installing a piece of OS software sounds probably way too difficult for schools' people..20:15
highvoltagehey HedgeMage20:40
HedgeMagehi, highvoltage :)20:41
highvoltageHedgeMage: besides that we don't have a logo yet, are there any blockers for the website?20:42
HedgeMagehighvoltage: give me a sec to finish a pm with a client, and I'll look.20:42
highvoltageHedgeMage: ok great20:42
HedgeMageback... logo/branding is a blocker, as is finding out from the powers that be what email account will be used for the web-site's back-end email list integration20:57
HedgeMage(It should be an account just for the gateway)20:57
HedgeMagehighvoltage: ^^^21:25

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