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=== maco changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Happy birthday crimsun! | Beta 1 released! | Feature Freeze, fix bugs | Kubuntu has the Doctor on the brain | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | milestoned bugs marked as kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/yjybcx9
jussi01Riddell: should you not close this now? https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-lucid-group-photo08:06
ghostcubeo/08:10
Skeletorhi there. has there already been some work done implementing a custom kubuntu plymouth and grub/isolinux splash?08:52
apacheloggeragateau: the tray menu thingy stuff causes rendering bugs on intel!10:02
* apachelogger needs to leave though10:02
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agateauapachelogger: weird10:06
agateauapachelogger: I have two different intel-based machines here10:07
agateauand I see no problem10:07
agateauRiddell: ping10:12
agateauRiddell: could you do some icon moving in the oxygen-icon-theme?10:13
agateauRiddell: as we discussed earlier10:13
Riddell13:16 < Riddell> agateau: I uploaded oxygen with nepomuk icon also in hicolour10:17
Riddellagateau: what else needs moving?10:17
agateauRiddell: I have a few others which would be nice to move10:17
agateauRiddell: some are really necessary, some should be in hicolor anyway10:17
agateaupastebining the list10:17
agateauhttp://pastey.net/13447510:18
* agateau likes this vim pastebin plugin :)10:18
agateauthose are the icons for apps which are part of kde sc and whose package does not contain an hicolor icon already10:19
Riddellare they all part of oxygen-icons do you know?10:20
agateauRiddell: yes they are10:21
agateauRiddell: I created the list based on the svn repository10:21
agateauif it helps I can probably reduce the list a bit more10:22
Riddellthat's fine, not hard to do at all10:23
agateauok great10:23
* Riddell wonders what the "oxygen" icon is for10:29
agateauself-promotion maybe? :)10:36
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bullgardI understand "koffice 2.2 is still beta." When will it be ready to be included in Ubuntu repositories?11:16
apacheloggeragateau: it also fails to load the menu at first try sometimes11:27
apacheloggerdidnt see it on my intel based netbook though11:27
Riddellbullgard: we had a guy packaging it, I haven't heard from him since release, not sure of the status11:30
bullgardRiddell: Thank you very much for your information.11:31
debfxis there a way to tell kfiledialog to not overwrite the filename extension?12:35
Riddellhow do you mean overwrite the filename extension?12:35
debfx"Automatically select filename extension" is a global setting :(12:36
debfxwhen "Automatically select filename extension" is enabled it replaces the extension with the first one from the selected filter12:37
debfxfor example when you try to save http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kmozillahelper/kmozillahelper_0.6-0ubuntu1.dsc in firefox with the kde integration, the default filename is kmozillahelper_0.6-0ubuntu1.asc as .asc is one of the extensions for a plain text document12:39
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Riddellhum, strange12:40
Riddellprobably #kde-devel is more likely to know on IRC, or ask on kde-devel mailing list12:40
seeledantti: you are working on printing? how is it going?12:50
danttiseele: yup, It's going pretty well, yesterday I added more stuff on it..12:51
danttiI'm trying to finish the printer options ui12:51
seeleok cool12:51
danttiseele: you did some work on the py one?12:52
* dantti thinks he remembers seeing seele in something about it...12:53
Riddelldantti: she did the UI design pdf I showed you12:54
danttiah right..12:54
danttiseele: I guess then you could take a look at http://dantti.wordpress.com/2010/03/15/printprogress/  and maybe compile to see the lastest...12:55
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Tonio_hi14:02
Tonio_anyone knows how can I change the alsa default device on the fly and from the command line ?14:03
Riddellprobably birthday boy crimsun would know14:05
txwikingerlots of birthday boys today14:30
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Tonio_crimsun: ? ;)14:38
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Riddellglatzor!15:43
Riddellglatzor: I'm trying to package packagekit 0.5.815:43
Riddellbut I the mozilla plugin won't comile and I can't work out why15:44
nixternalanyone here receive the following email:16:24
nixternalYou've been invited to the following Landscape account:16:24
nixternalCanonical - candidates (canonica).16:24
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maconixternal: someone i know on another server did16:25
maconixternal: they said the link doesnt work16:25
txwikingernixternal: I think I saw something like that before16:25
txwikingerbut the link did not work in my case either16:26
Riddellnixternal: known problem, landscape and/or salesforce to blame, expect a groveling apology sometime soon16:26
nixternallol16:27
nixternalok16:27
DarkwingDucknixternal: nope16:27
DarkwingDuckBut, I have good news... I have internet back again16:27
nixternalThis invitation is no longer available.16:32
nixternalhehe16:32
shadeslayercrimsun: happy birthday :D16:59
Riddelldebfx: kmoxillahelper uploaded, thanks17:00
shadeslayerRiddell: oh btw whats the process for getting choqok beta into lucid?17:00
shadeslayerany wiki links?17:00
Riddellshadeslayer: do you know how to do packaging?17:02
Riddellshadeslayer: it'll need a feature freeze exception and probably independent testing before it goes it17:02
macosomeone on identi.ca last night said they may have to switch to kubuntu after seeing on there that i use choqok, looking up choqok, and going "wow thats so much awesomer than gwibber"17:02
maco(because they use gnome... i didnt bother telling them choqok could be used in ubuntu)17:03
Riddellawesomer should be a word, I really want it to be a word17:03
macocan we declare it a word?17:03
Riddelllet's17:04
shadeslayerRiddell: yes i know how to package : lp.net/~rohangarg17:04
apacheloggerin favor17:04
apacheloggero/17:04
shadeslayerRiddell: also will it need patching?17:04
shadeslayeri cant patch stuff.. but i can package it...17:04
Riddellpatching? not unless you fix any bugs17:05
Riddellshadeslayer: so package the new version, put it in your PPA and ask for testing17:05
Riddellshadeslayer: file a bug asking for feature freeze exception listing the new features and why we want it in lucid17:05
shadeslayerok17:06
shadeslayerRiddell: thanks :)17:06
Riddelllet us know if you have any problems17:06
shadeslayerRiddell: oh sure...17:06
shadeslayerRiddell: ill be pulling the alpha package directly from the ubuntu servers,shouldnt be a tough job to build this17:07
shadeslayerRiddell: changelog includes this : http://pastebin.ca/185052517:09
shadeslayerso loads of new features implemented...17:10
shadeslayermaco: lol :D17:11
macoshadeslayer: the eddie izzard comment?17:11
shadeslayermaco: yeah :D17:11
macohave you seen that routine?17:13
Riddelleddit izzard?17:13
Riddells/eddit/eddie/17:13
shadeslayermaco: not the whole thing but one of my friends mentioned it a few days ago..17:14
macoRiddell: the comedian17:14
macoRiddell: shadeslayer said on identi.ca that ctrl+p was a bad "previous" shortcut in choqok17:14
shadeslayerand it should be replaced by Ctrl+Z :D17:15
macoRiddell: an it reminded me of eddie izzard's routine trying to get the printer to work and he starts saying "control p print!" over and over, faster and faster17:15
shadeslayerbased on the lines of : F1 Help F1 Help :D17:16
Riddellnot seen that one17:16
shadeslayermaco: btw no offense but i thought you were a guy... till i saw your pic on identi xD17:17
shadeslayermy ISP just went awesome!17:17
macocommon assumption17:17
macoone time someone called me "ben" on irc thinking i was mako17:17
shadeslayerMarch 21, 2010: Bharti Airtel, one of Asia’s leading integrated telecom service providers, in an unprecedented move is upgrading speeds of all its existing customers (on 64, 128, 256 Kbps) to a minimum of 512 Kbps. Further, customers currently on 512 Kbps plans and 1mbps plans will have their speeds doubled to 1Mbps and 2Mbps respectively.17:18
Riddellshadeslayer: now you'll have no excuse not to do ISO testing!17:19
shadeslayerso yayy i get a speed boost from 128 Kbps to 512 Kbps17:19
shadeslayerRiddell: hahaha17:19
shadeslayerim still to recieve another 256 Kbps... but ill call them after a week or so if they dont increase it till then17:20
* shadeslayer wonders why initramfs-update -u doesnt run17:24
shadeslayerAccording to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/526892 : comment 3417:24
ubottuUbuntu bug 526892 in plymouth "No graphical splash on VGA16fb (e.g., nvidia binary drivers), plymouth uses text plugin ("Ubuntu 10.04" in text)" [Medium,Fix committed]17:24
shadeslayerhmm... running dpkg-reconfigure17:27
shadeslayerhow do i get the resolution number to put in the grub boot line by lshw?17:34
shadeslayerit was something like 0x334 or something17:34
Riddellif it's not KDE we may well not know, you'd need to try #ubuntu17:34
shadeslayerRiddell: hmm ok17:35
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shadeslayerugh... nepomuk crashes on every login17:57
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shadeslayerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/545067 , https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/545277 , and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/517962 , are all of them the same?18:05
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Ubuntu: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/545067)18:05
JontheEchidnatwo of those are privated18:06
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: ugh.. i reported them,can i make them public?18:07
JontheEchidnayeah, in the top right corner of the page there should be a butgton18:07
JontheEchidna*button, even18:07
shadeslayerdone18:07
shadeslayerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/54527718:07
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Ubuntu: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/545277)18:07
shadeslayersetting the other one noq18:08
JontheEchidnafor the first one, the stacktrace is really too damaged to tell18:08
JontheEchidnamaybe the apport retracer can get something out of it18:08
* Mamarok wonders what package is missing in Lucid to compile Amarok from git, it get an error for taglib-extras not found, but I sure have those isntalled. Did the location change?18:08
shadeslayerMamarok: libssl-dev18:09
MamarokI have18:09
shadeslayerMamarok: can you pastebin the error?18:09
RiddellMamarok: libtag-extras-dev ?18:10
Mamarokshadeslayer: I have all the packages needed, and it still compains it doesn't find libtag-extras in the correct version, although 1.0.1 is installed18:10
shadeslayerMamarok: one of the packages is not needed in kubuntu18:10
shadeslayerthough the git version requires i18:10
MamarokTagLib-Extras version too old: version searched :1.0, found 0.118:10
Mamarokso it finds 1.0.1 and reads 0.1, something is borked in the version numbering maybe?18:10
Mamarokshadeslayer: I know what git requires, I wrote the installation guide :)18:11
JontheEchidnaor the cmake check is broken18:11
shadeslayerMamarok: hehe.. :D18:11
Mamarokwell, then all the other would not be able to build neither18:11
shadeslayerMamarok: tried cleaning the cache :P18:19
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: so are the 2 same?18:19
Mamarokshadeslayer: yep18:19
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: second one's still private18:20
MamarokI even removed the whole build folder :)18:20
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/517962 ??18:21
RiddellMamarok: has anything changed in FindTaglib-Extras.cmake compared to 2.3.0?18:21
ubottuUbuntu bug 517962 in kdebase-runtime "nepomukservicestub crashed with SIGSEGV in Soprano::Plugin::pluginName()" [Medium,Fix committed]18:21
JontheEchidnabug 54506718:21
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/545067)18:21
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: done18:22
MamarokRiddell: I tried asking them, no response so far... they are too much into talking future projects, nobody has their feet on the ground there anymore anyway18:22
RiddellMamarok: where's the git install guide?18:22
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: that one is different than 51796218:22
MamarokRiddell: in my blog: http://blogs.fsfe.org/myriam/2009/09/compiling-amarok-from-git-locally-full-summary/18:22
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: actually, it's a crash on shutdown that doesn't get reported until the next startup :)18:24
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: meh...18:24
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: and i thought it was the other way round :P18:24
JontheEchidnahard to tell with shutdown bugs, without looking at the backtrace18:24
JontheEchidnabug 526085 <- it is a duplicate of that however, which is being tracked upstream18:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 526085 in kdebase-runtime "nepomukservicestub crashed with SIGSEGV in QUrl::isEmpty()" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52608518:24
JontheEchidnathough if we get many more dupes, I'll probably bump the importance up to medium and reopen the bug for tracking18:25
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: ok ill mark it as such18:25
shadeslayerah already did that18:25
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: this happens *every* time18:26
JontheEchidnaat least, when apport gets turned off for the final release nobody will notice it ;D18:26
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: hehehee18:26
verbalshadowis there a reason why plasma-desktop doesn't start on login18:29
Riddellno18:29
verbalshadow:(18:29
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JontheEchidnalol18:30
verbalshadowok, well i guess bug time it is18:31
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: Riddell http://imagebin.ca/view/TIEE2d.html : lol18:33
shadeslayerlooks like my laptops heartbears18:33
shadeslayer*heartbeats18:33
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: btw do you know of unconfigured updates?18:34
JontheEchidnaI know that they exist and can be configured in software-properties, but not much else18:34
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: and these concern too....18:35
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: i just got some kernel updates...18:35
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: http://pastebin.ca/185059418:35
RiddellMamarok: works for me in lucid "-- Taglib-Extras found: -L/usr/lib -ltag-extras"18:36
JontheEchidnaman, I wish I had this connection at home... http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopwr2110-jpg.jpg18:36
* Mamarok wonders what's wrong with her installation...18:37
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: \o/18:37
shadeslayerMamarok: well... i can give you what i have installed and then you can do a diff on them to check what you have missing18:37
shadeslayer( on just the amarok stuff... )18:38
shadeslayerMamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/400103/18:38
shadeslayerbrb18:38
Mamarokshadeslayer: I doubt this would help, I *have* the correct packages isntalled, it just doesn't see those18:39
Mamarokand it reports libtag-extras to be version 0.1, I wonder where this would come from, this is a clean install of Lucid, so there's no such thing as version 0.118:40
RiddellMamarok: what does "taglib-extras-config --version" say?18:41
RiddellI get 1.018:41
JontheEchidnacould I get a confirmation for the nominations in bug 321281? (A kde4libs upload wouldn't hurt either)18:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 321281 in kde4libs "Various KDE apps crash with signal 7 in KPixmapCache::Private::mmapFile()" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32128118:42
Mamarokmost bizarre, I get 0.118:43
RiddellMamarok: `which taglib-extras-config`  ?18:44
JontheEchidnahmm, maybe "which taglib-extras-config" next?18:44
Mamarokbut I have no idea where this would come from, I didn't even take over the old $HOME files18:44
MamarokRiddell: it's in my home... /me goes erasing those files again, I was sure I did erase all that before18:46
Mamaroksorry for bothering18:46
RiddellJontheEchidna: all this amaroking makes me notice your patch 07_dont_ask_music_dir.diff which is probably the cause of the "file not found" on startup bug?18:46
JontheEchidnaRiddell: the malformed url bug?18:46
Riddellyeah18:47
JontheEchidnaRiddell: that was a different bug, fixed in 2.3.0. My patch only came about in 2.3.018:47
Riddellok, my mistake then18:48
JontheEchidnano prob18:48
RiddellJontheEchidna: does 07_dont_ask_music_dir.diff confirm to our patch policy though? :)18:48
shadeslayeryep... theres a missing dep on the new kernel,so whoever uses the binary driver,gets no kdm :D18:48
shadeslayer*nvidia binary driver18:48
JontheEchidnaRiddell: it got a UI freeze exception and such18:50
RiddellJontheEchidna: but does upstream approve?18:51
JontheEchidnadunno. I don't think they'd care that much18:51
Riddellthe Doctor says upstreams care about all patches! :)18:52
lex79can't ark open rar archive protected with password?18:52
JontheEchidnalex79: yeah, I opened one last night18:53
lex79weird, not here :(18:53
Riddelljefferai, markey: ok if we add this patch to Amarok in kubuntu to use ~/Music by default? http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/07_dont_ask_music_dir.diff18:54
jefferaiRiddell: it's up to you, as long as if people complain about it reading their ~/Music folder unbidden you tell them it's not a bug in Amarok  :-)18:55
* Sput would hate if that happened to him18:56
Riddellwhy shouldn't it?18:56
Riddellit's a music programme, I'd expect it to read my music directory18:56
Sputbecause I tend to have my music someplace else :)18:56
TroubleI wish Amarok would remember the last directory I was in, rather than keep defaulting to ~/music ;-)18:56
JontheEchidnaSput: it's not like it would look elsewhere otherwise18:56
Sputbut meh, I'm a poweruser anyway18:56
Riddelloh you can change it easily enough after, it'sjust s sensible default to have18:57
SputJontheEchidna: but at least it prompts me18:57
SputI like first-run wizards that allow me to do basic setup without much hassle18:57
Sputmuch easier then diving into the configuration later18:57
JontheEchidnanot so nice for people who just want it to work18:58
JontheEchidnabut I guess that's why you run Gentoo ;)18:58
lex79Riddell: bug 54532918:58
JontheEchidnacustomization18:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 545329 in shared-desktop-ontologies "Please sync shared-desktop-ontologies 0.3-1 with Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54532918:58
Sputmost packages actually run fine and with a sane default config out of the box on Gentoo :)18:58
Sputbut yeah... I hate being limited18:58
Riddelljefferai: also we added http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/06_mimetypes.diff for  bug 19147518:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 191475 in rhythmbox "[hardy] media tab in file management preferences missing applications" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19147518:59
Sputin any case, I think it's a service for users to allow her basic setup on first launch, rather than "assume" things and force her to figure out how to configure stuff18:59
Sputwith sane defaults in said wizard (like ~/Music) she only has to press OK and is done19:00
JontheEchidnaI don't think it's any stretch to think that the default is a good default19:00
Riddellthis is a differerence between kubuntu and gentoo :)19:00
Sputno idea, in my experience many people already had music before they started to use Amarok, and it's more likely to not be placed in ~/Music (but on some external driver, file server, some other dir... think that capitalized folder names are rather uncommon on unixoids)19:01
Sput*drive even19:01
JontheEchidnaBut in this case ~/Music would most likely be gone already19:02
markeyRiddell: afaik $HOME/Music is already used. we ask Qt for the default directory19:02
SputJontheEchidna: ah, if the dir doesn't exist, it prompts the user?19:02
JontheEchidnaSput: according to the code, it doesn't prompt the user if it doesn't exist19:02
JontheEchidnait only asks if the directory exists and has read permissions19:03
Riddellmarkey: but it asks rather than just doing the right thing19:03
jefferaiRiddell: hrm19:03
jefferaiSput: FWIW I agree with you on this point, but Ubuntu will do what they wish19:03
Sputhmm... could be interesting to figure out if users not having music in ~/Music discover the whole collection thingy in amarok without knowing the program beforehand19:03
jefferaiRiddell: how does adding mimetypes fix that crash?19:03
jefferaiare you sure that's the right bug?19:04
SputI mean, if it "just works" and chooses an empty folder, and never prompts the user to configure his collection... do they figure it out by their own?19:04
macoSput: if the ~/Music directory is mkdir'd on install, why would the user go and make *some other dir* to put their music in rather than using the default?19:04
markeyRiddell: that's news to me. but anyway, watching a movie now, can look closer tomorrow19:04
Riddelljefferai: https://launchpad.net/bugs/19147519:05
ubottuUbuntu bug 191475 in rhythmbox "[hardy] media tab in file management preferences missing applications" [Low,Fix released]19:05
rgreeningdoes wine rely on ~Music and My Documents as defaults? In that case, they would exist for wine users (it does on all my machines)19:05
jefferaiRiddell: oh19:05
jefferailaunchpad19:05
jefferairight19:05
Sputmaco: ah, you mkdir that on install? that at least covers cases where users start building their collection on kubuntu (but what about those who used something else before, or come from windows and have their stuff on some external drive or another partition?)19:05
jefferaiRiddell: I'll add it to amarok right now19:05
JontheEchidnargreening: I think it uses them if they are there, but it's not a hard requirement19:06
rgreeninghows JontheEchidna btw... :P19:06
macoSput: hmm yeah... i guess if ~/Music is empty or missing, then it should prompt?19:06
macoby the way, can Amarok be given TWO directories to use as the collection?19:06
JontheEchidnargreening: pretty good. long time no chat19:06
Sputmaco: that would make sense to me - it's safe to assume that the user doesn't store her music in that folder then, after all :)19:07
rgreeningya. $WORK has me buried19:07
macolike ~/Music and that-file-server-over-there ?19:07
Sputmaco: that is possible, yes19:07
jefferaiRiddell: ok, that patch is now in Amarok trunk19:07
Riddellmaco: yes19:07
Sputyou basically get a directory tree with checkboxes19:07
Riddelljefferai: groovy, sorted19:07
macois that the mimetype thingy i added in the amarok package?19:07
JontheEchidnaThis would be something that a Windows migration wizard for Kubuntu in general would be great19:07
Sputthat reminds me, I need to bribe the amarok devs to treat NFS shares as removable collections again :P19:07
Sputthat used to work in 1.4!1!!19:07
macoSput: ah ok. its been a while since i set it up19:08
jefferaiSput: it's not that we don't want that19:28
jefferai:-)19:28
crimsunTonio__: use the alsa-lib environment variables20:20
crimsunTonio__: namely, $ALSA_PCM_CARD20:22
debfxJontheEchidna: what's up with bug #514110 ?20:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 514110 in libssh "doesn't support AES CTR modes" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51411020:52
JontheEchidnaneeds a sponsor20:53
JontheEchidnaI can't upload to half of what Kubuntu maintains in main20:54
debfxI was just wondering as it's over a month old and ubuntu-sponsors isn't subscribed21:04
macotheres about 2000 bugs for which thats the case21:07
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Tonio__crimsun: hum ok thanks:)23:05
nixternalhappy birthday crimsun!!!23:08
nixternalif DarkwingDuck comes in here looking for me, I will be afk for a little bit. Gotta do some chores and get dinner made23:09
nixternalthis way here, I don't just pick apachelogger or ScottK to be my secretary, you are all now my secretary. You too sabdfl, like I don't see you hiding over there in the channel list :)23:09
macoafter today's updates is anyone else's tray in plasma growing uncontrollably?23:09
nixternaleverything here looks good maco23:10
macohmm i restarted plasma about 15 minutes ago because my tray was 800px wide (big gaps between icons) and when it started it was normal... but its huge again23:10
nixternalfound a really nice KPart/KTextEditor, yes not KTextEdit, in PyKDE4. Thank goodness for KDE C++ API23:10
maco(by restarted, i mean pkill plasma-desktop && plasma desktop)23:10
macoer s/a d/a-d/23:11
Riddellmaco: I've not heard of that problem23:11
apacheloggernixternal: cpp to the rescue23:13
DarkwingDuckHow hard it is to install/load ina  module into the kernal?23:14
Riddell23:09 < nixternal> if DarkwingDuck comes in here looking for me, I will be afk for a little bit. Gotta do some chores and get dinner made23:15
DarkwingDuckthanks Riddell23:15
nixternalAnd the "Secretary of the Year" award goes to..... Jonathan Riddell !!!! \o/23:15
DarkwingDuckROFL23:15
Riddellplease, it's "Administrative Professional"23:16
DarkwingDuckanywho... how hard is it to add a module into my kernal?23:16
nixternalmaybe there in Scotland23:16
Riddellinsmod <module-name>23:16
nixternalAdministrative Professional == can you get me a cup of coffee please?23:17
DarkwingDuckThat easy?23:17
DarkwingDucknixternal: I made a goof on the docs... redo it. have it done within 4 hours23:17
nixternalSecretary == presitige....there are secretaries that make millions...my last secretary, he made like $150k a year23:17
nixternalhe made more than I did23:17
DarkwingDucklol23:17
macoRiddell, nixternal: like this: http://imagebin.ca/view/57hfQT1c.html23:17
nixternalDarkwingDuck: rock on, gonna go make dinner23:17
nixternalnope, mine looks good23:18
DarkwingDucknixternal: that's why 4 hours is the key fo rme too... it's nice that we are *finally* in the same timezine23:18
DarkwingDuck*timezone23:18
Riddellmaco: I wonder if it thinks there are phantom icons that should be in the gaps23:18
nixternalgood point23:18
nixternalmaco: yeah, I don't see that at all23:18
Riddellmaco: worth asking agateau when he appears, he's he resident expert on systrays23:18
* nixternal heads to make dinner, back in a bit23:21
* DarkwingDuck heads to fix the desktop doc23:21
* apachelogger heads to bed23:24

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