[00:18] <dhart> wgrant: you answered my question about how to request a canonical-hosted instance of launchpad. :-)
[00:18] <wgrant> dhart: Oh, right.
[00:19] <thumper> dhart: which question?
[00:19] <p_masho> anyone from the launchpad team here. I;d like to know how to creat a ppa, but conly contains data..
[00:20] <thumper> p_masho: isn't there a "Create a new PPA" on your user page?
[00:20] <p_masho> there is.. but it seems I have to upload source.. I would like to upload a bunch of files, similar to a zip..
[00:22] <mwhudson> p_masho: ppas contain packages, not data
[00:22] <mwhudson> if you just want to be able to download files, you can do that by registering a release
[00:23] <thumper> p_masho: if you just want to upload a zip file, it needs to be associated with a project release
[04:37] <xnox> Can some please re-recreate branch import of svn://gcc.gnu.org/svn/gcc/trunk with bzr-svn in launchpad? It's not allowing me to request it cause there is the "old" svn export already
[04:38] <mwhudson> xnox: i think it might make sense to wait until incremental imports for svn get deployed next week
[04:39] <xnox> mwhudson, ok. Shall I open a question on lp.net/launchpad-code ? or will you remember =)
[04:39] <mwhudson> i doubt i'll remember
[04:41] <xnox> it's on launchpad =)
[04:41]  * xnox wants gcc daily builds =)
[05:31] <shadeslayer> hey is launchpad login down or something?
[05:32] <shadeslayer> i get : Launchpad doesn't understand the form data submitted in this request.
[05:33] <spm> heh, if it was done, you wouldn't get a response at all :-)
[05:33] <spm> down*
[05:34] <mwhudson> shadeslayer: do you block the referer header?
[05:34] <shadeslayer> mwhudson: whut? im behind a proxy in my college so i really dont know
[05:37] <shadeslayer> mwhudson: oh and how do i check if its blocked?
[05:38] <spm> a proxy shouldn't be able to diddle http headers - if you're talking SSL. if it can diddle the headers, you have bigger problems. :-/
[05:39] <spm> shadeslayer: it'll depend on your webbrowser and what plugins/extensions, or if windows/ie, what anti-virus/firewall gumpf you have.
[05:43] <mwhudson> shadeslayer: if you don't know then the answer is probably "no"
[05:44] <shadeslayer> oh sorry i was afk
[05:44] <shadeslayer> the OS is windows,browser is chrome and no extensions
[05:44] <shadeslayer> Windows XP :P
[05:44] <shadeslayer> no anti virus and firewalls that i can see....
[05:46] <shadeslayer> ok gtg
[08:45] <bilalakhtar> why is there a long queue at the build farm? I just uploaded 2 packages, only to find out that they will be built after 12 hours!
[09:04] <rdb> Can I register a bot with launchpad?
[09:04] <rdb> I mean, is that allowed?
[09:13] <glen> is it possible to search for translations, for example how is "Restore" translated for language Foo? https://translations.launchpad.net
[09:21] <dpm> glen, it is, but only on a template level basis. I.e. translatable applications expose what we call translation templates in Launchpad. You can go to a given template and search for a word. e.g. -> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/evolution/+pots/evolution/fr/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=Restore
[09:21] <dpm> That's a search in the Evolution template in Ubuntu Lucid
[09:21] <dpm> in French
[09:21] <dpm> You can see the pattern in the URL
[10:29] <rdb> How do I do anonymous authentication via the API?
[10:38] <cjwatson> I'm trying to change ~ubuntu-cli-mono-dev's contact address to ubuntu-mono@lists.ubuntu.com.  That mailing list used to be the contact address for ~mono, but it isn't any longer.  However, https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cli-mono-dev/+contactaddress says "ubuntu-mono@lists.ubuntu.com is already registered in Launchpad and is associated with MOTU Mono Team."  What's up?
[10:38] <cjwatson> https://edge.launchpad.net/~mono says that's a lie ...
[10:42] <Laney> why shouldn't two teams be able to have the same contact address anyway?
[10:43] <persia> Because LP uses the email address to identify the person in several cases.
[10:44] <persia> So each email address has to have a unique person
[10:44] <persia> A team is a special class of person.
[10:44] <Laney> hmm
[10:44] <Laney> seems like a strange overloading
[10:48] <persia> Laney: Well, how else to track activities of folk that don't use LP in a way that lets one reconnect them to their data when they sign up?
[10:54] <maxb> rdb: https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib/#Anonymous%20access
[10:54] <rdb> maxb, I'm not using launchpadlib
[10:55] <maxb> ah
[10:57] <maxb> there was a blog entry which explained this nicely
[10:58] <maxb> leonardr: Where can I find your blog entry on API anonymous access?
[10:58] <leonardr> maxb: the blog entry may not explain it well either
[10:58] <leonardr> basically you have to sign your request with an empty oauth token
[10:59] <rdb> Oh, OK. I'll give that a try, thanks.
[10:59] <maxb> It explained it better than what I can find on help.lp.net :-)
[10:59] <rdb> Yeah, I saw this in the source code: super(AnonymousAccessToken, self).__init__('','')
[10:59] <maxb> Oh, there it is: http://blog.launchpad.net/general/anonymous-access-to-the-launchpad-web-service-api
[11:00] <leonardr> http://blog.launchpad.net/general/anonymous-access-to-the-launchpad-web-service-api
[11:00] <leonardr> yeah
[11:00] <rdb> OK, thanks. :-)
[11:00] <maxb> "You can get anonymous access by passing in empty strings for the token string and access secret"
[11:01] <IntuitiveNipple> Is there an ongoing problem with edge and main? I'm getting 503 responses this past hour trying to post a bug report. There's nothing on the status page to indicate a problem
[11:09] <intellectronica> IntuitiveNipple: do you get an OOPS?
[11:09] <intellectronica> and if yes what's the oops id?
[11:09] <IntuitiveNipple> Yes, had loads both from Edge and main: here's the one that just occurred when I did a 'resend' on main: OOPS-1543L1034
[11:11] <intellectronica> IntuitiveNipple: will have a look as soon as the oops report becomes available (in 5-10 minutes). sorry for the incovenience
[11:12] <intellectronica> IntuitiveNipple: what project / package are you trying to file the bug on, b.t.w?
[11:12] <IntuitiveNipple> nvidia-graphics-185
[11:12] <IntuitiveNipple> At one point I saw a raw zope backtrace returned but like an idiot didn't save it
[11:15] <intellectronica> IntuitiveNipple: so, i can see the oops now. the problem is that when searching for possible duplicates the query timed out.
[11:15] <intellectronica> i'm pretty sure we just introduced something to bypass that, so i don't know why that didn't work
[11:15] <wgrant> IntuitiveNipple: Do you have JavaScript disabled?
[11:17] <IntuitiveNipple> No
[11:29] <IntuitiveNipple> I've just noticed that the initial duplicate search when entering the summary also fails with a report saying to try again with fewer words
[11:41] <intellectronica> IntuitiveNipple: oh, so is the error you're getting at a different step?
[11:42] <IntuitiveNipple> intellectronica: Found the problem: I took the package-name to report from the current binary package installed plus seeing the packages other bugs are reported to. I was using "nvidia-graphics-185". Just looked again and realised the source package is "nvidia-graphics-drivers-180" - posting to that has worked, so the problem is a failed package search not being handled correctly
[11:42] <IntuitiveNipple> intellectronica: The error (503 Service Unavailable) related to that OOPs I gave you happened after I posted the bug report itself
[11:43] <intellectronica> IntuitiveNipple: i see
[11:44] <IntuitiveNipple> Launchpad wasn't offering me an option to search for the package to report on so I guessed it. I found just now that after trying a different guessed package-name that launchpad responded with 'unknown package' and gave me the option to "Choose..." which helped me ID the correct package
[11:54] <cjwatson> Laney: how else would you accept bug comments by e-mail?
[11:54] <Laney> cjwatson: Teams don't tend to make bug comments
[11:54] <cjwatson> anyway, I think this is somewhat beside the point of my original question, because the ~mono team doesn't have that e-mail address attached any more
[11:54] <cjwatson> sure
[11:54] <cjwatson> I don't want to sidetrack too much, I'd rather solve the problem at hand
[11:54] <Laney> yes of course
[11:55] <Laney> now this is related ... how can I subscribe a person to a package with lplib? I can't find out how to get access to structural_subscription_target
[11:56] <wgrant> Laney: structural_subscription_target is really an interface. Get a distribution_source_package and use that.
[11:59] <Laney> wgrant: I have a source_package object but see nothing about subscriptions
[11:59] <wgrant> Laney: source_package is really distro_series_source_package.
[12:00] <wgrant> You need a distribution_source_package.
[12:00] <Laney> oh
[12:00] <Laney> let me try that
[12:01] <Laney> wgrant: much better, many thanks
[12:01] <Laney> Do you have any insight into our email query?
[12:01] <wgrant> Laney: Excellent.
[12:01] <wgrant> Well, teams are people.
[12:02] <wgrant> So the email uniqueness thing makes sense.
[12:02] <wgrant> What doesn't make sense is that you can't actually remove an address.
[12:02] <wgrant> That is a bug.
[12:02] <wgrant> That gets brought up every so often.
[12:02] <wgrant> I'm not sure it's actually reported.
[12:10] <cjwatson> Curtis asserts in bug 488160 that there is such a bug, but doesn't say which.
[12:10] <cjwatson> sinzui: ^- do you have the reference?
[12:31] <aleksander_m> did anyone receive an invitation to be an administrator in a Landscape account called "Canonical - candidates (canonica)."?
[12:31] <sinzui> cjwatson: I I do not understand what you are asking, why we do not permit teams to share identities?
[12:32] <cjwatson> sinzui: no.  In https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/488160/comments/1, you say "There is a bug that you cannot unassign them to use them with another team."  Do you have a reference for that bug?
[12:32] <cjwatson> I looked but couldn't find it.
[12:34] <sinzui> cjwatson: bug 250103
[12:34] <cjwatson> ah, thank you
[12:35] <cjwatson> I'm not sure that matches the situation here
[12:36] <cjwatson> sinzui: In this case, ~mono used to have ubuntu-mono@lists.ubuntu.com as its contact address; this has been unset by the team administrator, but I still can't set ~ubuntu-cli-mono-dev's contact address to ubuntu-mono@lists.ubuntu.com, since it complains that it's in use by ~mono (which it used to be, but isn't any more).  Is that the same bug or a different one?
[12:36] <sinzui> cjwatson: because you cannot delete an address, and you cannot see the address is still there when you think you removed it, you experience errors when the address is reused
[12:37] <sinzui> cjwatson: so as I said, you only marked the address as inactive, you did not delete it. only the address owner can use the address...
[12:37] <cjwatson> well, *I* didn't, somebody else did, but OK
[12:37] <sinzui> ...which is stupid because we all no a real person controls the address
[12:38]  * sinzui had hoped to fix this bug last week but is drowning in other issues
[12:38] <cjwatson> Is it possible for a LOSA to delete addresses on a case-by-case basis, or is that verboten?
[12:38] <sinzui> cjwatson: yes. a losa has a sql script that can really delete the address
[12:38] <cjwatson> OK, I'll file a question then, thanks
[12:41] <cjwatson> Laney: actually, could you follow up to https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/104791 indicating that the db delete still needs to be performed?  Since I didn't file the question, I can't really reopen it
[12:44] <Laney> cjwatson: Yes, will do in a minute
[12:44] <cjwatson> thanks
[13:09] <Laney> cjwatson: I wrote a script to add the subscriptions when the change is actioned — http://pastebin.com/NuNw7qGm
[13:16] <sivang> hi all
[13:16] <sivang> I am trying to register a spec
[13:16] <sivang> but Ubuntu is not acceptable as a project name...
[13:16] <sivang> what should I do ?
[13:16] <sivang> (it is for the operating system)
[13:16] <wgrant> sivang: Ubuntu is a distribution, not a project.
[13:16] <sivang> hey wgrant
[13:17] <sivang> wgrant: okay, so I triedt os earch forrelated stuff, like "Ubuntu Desktop"
[13:17] <wgrant> sivang: Where are you trying to register from?
[13:22] <sivang> wgrant: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-m/+addspec
[13:23] <wgrant> sivang: Ah. That is a strange form. You can't do what you want from there.
[13:23] <wgrant> Try https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[13:23] <sivang> wgrant: ah stupid
[13:23] <sivang> wgrant: I have to copy and paste everything....
[13:24] <sivang> wgrant: I reached that form guess where? from the summit subdomain
[13:29]  * sivang copies and pastes
[13:30] <Fionn> During the last few days I tried to comment on several different bugs ans questions. Each time I try to send my comment I get an ajax requester, telling me that a Server error occurred and I should contact an administrator. Someone pls tell me who would be that.
[16:32] <Laney> does lp.c.c need to be private by default?
[16:37] <jml> Laney, you mean the launchpad.canonical.com wiki?
[16:37] <Laney> jml: Right, trying to view some of the pages linked from specs
[16:37] <jml> Laney, yes, it needs to be private.
[16:38] <jml> Laney, it predates open sourcing, is big, old, unmaintained, old and has confidential information.
[16:39] <jml> Laney, you can take comfort in the fact that almost all of the content there is outdated and useless.
[16:39] <Laney> Alright, I can believe that
[16:39] <Laney> I was just nosy about some of the spec pages
[16:39] <jml> Laney, feel free to ask about them on the list
[16:39] <jml> Laney, or here
[16:39] <Laney> sure
[16:40] <jml> Laney, just because we didn't do a systematic audit of the old wiki doesn't mean we can't copy bits and pieces to the public wiki as people ask questions.
[16:46] <Fionn> During the last few days I tried to comment on several different bugs ans questions. Each time I try to send my comment I get an ajax requester, telling me that a Server error occurred and I should contact an administrator. Someone pls tell me who would be that.
[17:28] <psusi> I can not log in to launchpad with lynx, it just keeps looping me back and forth between openid transaction in progress and yes, this is me, bloody log in
[17:53] <kirkland> "This file does not look like a patch. What is a patch?"
[17:54] <kirkland> Seriously?  Launchpad can't tell that what i'm uploading is in fact a patch (generated by debdiff) ?
[17:55] <gmb> kirkland: Known bug, in progress.
[17:56] <kirkland> gmb: thanks
[17:56] <gmb> kirkland: bug 538219, for reference
[17:56] <kirkland> gmb: subscribed, cheers mate
[17:56] <gmb> np
[18:11] <psusi> I just uploaded a debdiff as a patch no problem
[18:11] <psusi> well, no problem once I emailed it to myself on my windows machine I'm using right now so I could attach it, since launchpad seems to no longer support lynx
[18:22] <reidn> Hi All! Best place for Storm experts?
[18:23] <Hellow> reidn: #storm is the channel you're looking for.
[18:23] <reidn> Thanks heaps!
[18:37] <smoser> hey all. i'm trying to use staging to test an apport change
[18:37] <smoser> https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+filebug/jDuqJ5QsBO3NRk62gLZrFtpov5A?
[18:38] <smoser> seems to reload indefinitely
[18:38] <smoser> (several minutes now)
[18:38] <smoser> if i dont use staging it seems to work fine
[18:50] <salgado> smoser, that's because there's a script which processes the apport submitted data, and that script doesn't run on staging
[18:51] <smoser> oh. ok.
[18:51] <smoser> thanks.
[18:51] <salgado> I think they're going to start to run that script on staging soon
[18:58] <psusi> after I did a bzr launchpad-login, I can no longer clone or checkout from lp... I get Permission denied (publickey). what gives?
[18:59] <psusi> and there does not seem to be a way to log back out...
[20:22] <lysi> Hi, concerning bug #538236, now I'm not able anymore to post any answer or bug reply.
[20:25] <lysi> I wanted to submit an answer on answers.edge, failed. It did work until yesterday. Wanted to add this to the bug report, failed. Screenshot of Traceback is here: http://www.pic-upload.de/view-5048543/bugs.edge.png.html
[20:28] <lysi> Should I disable the option 'edge redirect'?
[20:57] <jack__> why is this rejected? http://pastebin.com/2SanjT44
[20:57] <jack__> or better, how to solve it
[21:00] <mwhudson> jack__: it looks like the dsc you uploaded references files that you didn't upload
[21:00] <mwhudson> why dput didn't upload them, i'm not really sure
[21:01] <jack__> mwhudson: it complains about a package, I have it here...
[21:01] <mwhudson> jack__: it looks like dput didn't upload it though
[21:01] <jack__> mwhudson: why not, that's the question
[21:02] <mwhudson> jack__: yes indeed
[21:03] <mwhudson> i think there's a bit of guesswork involved in deciding which files to upload
[21:03] <mwhudson> there's a way to tell it to not guess and just upload everything, but i don't remember what it is
[21:03] <mwhudson> jack__: try dput -f maybe?
[21:05] <jack__> Checksum doesn't match
[21:05] <geser> debuild -S -sa
[21:06] <jack__> ok
[21:26] <mwhudson> oh right, it's debuild that has the option, not dput
[21:34] <jack__> Rejected:
[21:34] <jack__> flowcanvas_0.6.0-1ubuntu3~ladi0.dsc: format '3.0 (quilt)' is not permitted in karmic.
[21:34] <jack__> ?
[21:37] <mwhudson> well that error message is at least fairly clear