[00:30] <CIA-3> ubiquity: superm1 * r3969 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog ubiquity.ubiquity.upstart):
[00:30] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Quit plymouth before running ubiquity in noninteractive from the
[00:30] <CIA-3> ubiquity: upstart job.
[09:29] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3970 ubiquity/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
[09:29] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Change the timezone highlight around UTC+5, UTC+5.5, and UTC+8
[09:29] <CIA-3> ubiquity: (LP: #368060).
[09:29] <ev> ^ Can someone else check that against http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kashmir_2007.JPG
[09:30] <ev> I've done so, but I want to be *really* sure this fixes the problem.
[10:30] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3971 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/kde_ui.py):
[10:30] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Fix setting the window title when in automatic mode in the KDE
[10:30] <CIA-3> ubiquity: frontend (LP: #541829).
[10:45] <michaelforrest1> cjwatson: when are you going to get round to fixing that distorted ubuntu logo?
[10:46] <cjwatson> michaelforrest1: not sure
[10:46] <cjwatson> it's behind the things that are preventing lots of people from installing
[10:51] <cjwatson> I'll target it for beta-2, but I can't give an exact time ...
[10:52] <cjwatson> I'm not even sure it will be possible to get it perfect
[10:59] <cjwatson> actually at the moment I'm not sure I even know where to start.  The only way to improve it at all is to know the native panel resolution, which I suppose would mean hacking EDID support into gfxboot somehow
[11:00] <cjwatson> oh, hmm, there is something there
[11:00] <cjwatson> there's a monitorsize primitive which uses EDID.  Whether it'll work on all panels I'm not sure
[12:12] <CIA-3> casper: evand * r787 casper/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.229
[14:40] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3972 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[14:40] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: grub-installer
[14:40] <CIA-3> ubiquity: 1.49ubuntu8.
[14:44] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3973 ubiquity/ (157 files in 3 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.
[14:51] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3974 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.2.7
[14:54]  * ev sighs at the difficulty in putting an image on the root window in Qt.
[16:17] <ev> shtylman_: can you take a look at this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/400057/ .  I cannot for the life of me get it working, and I think it's mainly to do with being out of my depth in all of this Qt nonsense ;)
[16:18] <ev> this would be for bug 540933 and friends
[16:21] <shtylman_> ev: looking
[16:22] <ev> shtylman_: you rock
[16:23] <shtylman_> ev: who wrote that code initially?
[16:24] <ev> me, poorly
[16:24] <ev> cobbled together from bits on the intertubes
[16:24] <shtylman_> haha
[16:25] <shtylman_> what is it trying to do?
[16:25] <shtylman_> set the wallpaper for the desktop?
[16:25] <ev> yes
[16:25] <ev> that's the end goal
[16:25] <shtylman_> gotcha
[16:26] <shtylman_> has the desktop session been started at this point?
[16:27] <shtylman_> so part of the problem I think is that your application will be garbage collected immediately
[16:27] <ev> it's garbage collected when it goes out of scope
[16:27] <ev> well, at the earliest
[16:28] <shtylman_> right
[16:28] <shtylman_> which is at the end of the if
[16:28] <shtylman_> according to that paste
[16:28] <ev> right, but after that point X has the pixbuf on its root window
[16:28] <ev> so it doesn't matter
[16:29] <ev> shtylman_: see the GTK code further up in ubiquity-dm, it scales an image, sets it on the root window, then goes away
[16:30] <ev> s/,/:/
[16:30] <shtylman_> I see
[16:31] <ev> there must be an easy way to do this in Qt, but it has so far escaped me
[16:32] <shtylman_> I am actually thinking there is just an easy way to do this in kde ingeneral
[16:42] <shtylman_> ev: as an aside.... doesn't the kde session set the wallaper for you?
[16:42] <ev> shtylman_: we don't have a full kde session here (on purpose)
[16:42] <shtylman_> gotcha
[16:43] <ev> we want the "install ubuntu" mode to be as lightweight as possible
[16:43] <ev> so it just starts X and a window manager
[16:43] <ev> and whatever other bits it needs to support the installer
[16:51] <shtylman_> ev is the screen black?
[16:52] <ev> shtylman_: yes, we haven't painted anything to it
[16:52] <ev> there's also the default X cursor, which something needs to change
[16:52] <shtylman_> heh
[16:54] <superm1> ev, as a last resort you can consider just using an external tool to do it, and adding a dependency to ubiquity-frontend-kde
[16:54] <superm1> that's how xfce systems get away with setting the background for gdm-session-bin normally
[16:55] <ev> yeah, though I'd very much prefer to figure this out.
[16:55] <ev> I have gotten it to work from the python console
[16:55] <ev> but clearly I'm missing at least one piece of the puzzle, as it's not working from within ubiquity-dm, and I'm not sure how correct my code is
[16:55] <ev> (judging by shtylman_'s laughter, not very)
[16:56] <ev> in case anyone is curious how I'm testing this, I minimize the installer window by first pressing alt-f3 to bring up the window manager menu.
[16:57] <superm1> does that only work with kde's window manager?
[16:58] <superm1> my only way to get a console in ubiquity-dm w/ gtk was clicking one of the links during the slideshow and going to irc:// with the helper app xterm
[17:02] <cjwatson> ctrl-alt-f1, DISPLAY=:0 xterm
[17:05] <ev> well, this is to get rid of the installer window, which covers the entire screen
[17:05] <ev> so we can see what, if anything, is painted on the root window
[17:05] <superm1> for some reason i was thinking that the X server wouldn't allow apps launched like that, but yeah that clearly works
[17:06] <cjwatson> ah, well you could DISPLAY=:0 metacity :-) but that might repaint the root window
[17:06] <cjwatson> or DISPLAY=:0 import -screen root.png
[17:06] <ev> s/metacity/kwin/, but yeah ;)
[17:07] <cjwatson> if imagemagick is installed
[17:07] <ev> it's not, unfortunately
[17:07] <cjwatson> oh, except I think that captures stuff that overlaps the root window
[17:07] <ev> though that still feels dirty and wrong
[17:07] <ev> when qt is perfectly capable of drawing
[17:08] <ev> I'm just not capable of deciphering its API
[17:08] <cjwatson> import -window root  # then
[17:09] <shtylman_> ev: since the installer window is fullscreen... why bother setting the wallpaper at all?
[17:09] <ev> shtylman_: it's not always full screen
[17:09] <shtylman_> gotcha
[17:09] <ev> if you're lucky, you'll get to the install progress window
[17:10] <ev> (or if you use oem-config)
[17:10] <shtylman_> oh..something I thought of on my way back from geting food... is you should try to do a.processEvents at the end
[17:10] <shtylman_> I think it might be possible that qt is queueing those events
[17:10] <shtylman_> and until you tell the app to process them it doesn't actually do anything to the x window
[17:15] <BGL-[e]> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libatasmart/+bug/445852?comments=all <- will this be fixed?
[17:16] <ev> BGL-[e]: this is not the right channel.
[17:16] <BGL-[e]> well sometimes i can't even get it installed as a result of it
[17:17] <BGL-[e]> but which would be a more appropriate channel
[17:17] <BGL-[e]> i've been trying to get a working install since 9.10
[17:18] <shtylman_> BGL-[e]: I have installed lucid and karmic on ssd drives just fine
[17:18] <BGL-[e]> okay
[17:19] <ev> BGL-[e]: To be perfectly honest, I don't think it's a matter to be handled on IRC.  I would suggest replying in the bug report.
[17:19] <ev> or speak to upstream
[17:19] <BGL-[e]> that's what i've been doing
[17:19] <BGL-[e]> who would be the upstream?
[17:21] <ev> libatasmart
[17:21] <BGL-[e]> there's posts of some one already trying to get a response from themn
[17:21] <BGL-[e]> in post 162
[17:21] <BGL-[e]> i guess i duno i'm not really in a position to be speaking with them, but i am having that issue
[17:31] <ev> shtylman_: spot on, the processEvents at least got me a pretty picture
[17:31] <ev> but I still have the default X cursor (though expectedly)
[17:32] <shtylman_> ev: cool... for cursor maybe try root_win.setCursor(Qt.ArrowCursor)
[17:33] <shtylman_> but it is possible that because no "theme" has been loaded that it hasn't found the pretty cursors
[17:34] <shtylman_> you may have to set the style on the app... and then it might pick up on the pretty cursor
[17:37] <ev> shtylman_: again, you rock
[17:37] <shtylman_> :)
[17:37] <ev> it picked up the themed cursor just fine, for what it's worth
[17:37] <shtylman_> cool ... thats good to know
[17:38] <shtylman_> I half expected it would... cause the qt style detection stuff should see oxygen available
[17:44] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3975 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity-dm debian/changelog):
[17:44] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Set a wallpaper and cursor for the KDE frontend when in only-
[17:44] <CIA-3> ubiquity: ubiquity mode (LP: #540933, LP: #540339). Thanks Roman Shtylman!
[18:33] <komputes> mterry: ping
[18:33] <mterry> komputes, hi
[18:34] <komputes> mterry: hey there, jcastro let me know that deja-dup was already proposed to GNOME as a default backup suite
[18:34] <mterry> komputes, yeah, not much action on that, but it was proposed
[18:35] <komputes> mterry: I proposed a similar project for GSoC 2010, should the proposal be removed or should we keep it up and propose the students fix bugs in deja-dup?
[18:35] <mterry> komputes, :)  I would love people fixing bugs in deja-dup.  I assume that would mean I'd need to be willing to mentor and all that?
[18:36] <mterry> komputes, I think that decision (whether to continue gsoc project separately or work on deja-dup) might depend on the deja-dup-in-GNOME proposal status?
[18:37]  * mterry realizes this isn't probably #ubuntu-installer material
[18:38] <komputes> Maybe you could use a hand or something, I could mentor and act as a filter to get info to you.
[18:38] <mterry> komputes, I have to go, but I'd love to talk about this.
[18:38] <komputes> mterry: sure, ping me when avail
[18:38] <mterry> komputes, I could mentor some too, but I would welcome any help mentoring or otherwise
[18:38] <mterry> komputes, will do.  I'm in UK timezone for this week
[18:39] <mterry> komputes, ping me if you see me before I ping you.  :)
[18:39] <komputes> cheers!
[22:09] <xivulon_> ev the reason I use a custom rm_tree is mostly to reset the file attributes, since otherwise you cannot remove certain files
[22:09] <xivulon_> what problems do you get?
[22:34] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3976 ubiquity/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Add a password strength meter (LP: #537995).
[22:44] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3977 ubiquity/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
[22:44] <CIA-3> ubiquity: Modify the install progress window to match the new theme
[22:44] <CIA-3> ubiquity: (LP: #538411).
[22:45] <ev> xivulon_: it was breaking in wine
[22:45] <ev> I'll see if I can reproduce it and get to the bottom of it tomorrow
[22:45] <xivulon_> ok