[10:02] <elky> TheMuso, hi
[10:03] <TheMuso> elky: Hi, no aplicants.
[10:03] <TheMuso> applicants even
[10:04] <ZachK_> Hello?
[10:05] <elky> TheMuso, it seems that way.
[10:05] <elky> ZachK_, hi?
[10:06] <ZachK_> meeting?
[10:07] <ZachK_> Was wondering if ya'll are considering people for Ubuntu Membership......
[10:07] <elky> ZachK_, if they're on the agenda, we do. Nobody is on our agenda today though.
[10:08] <ZachK_> I thought i was....coulda sworn I had edited it....probably forgot to...
[10:08] <elky> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/AsiaOceania is the page you need to put details on so we can consider you next time.
[10:08] <ZachK_> dang...
[10:08] <elky> Did you maybe put it on another board's page?
[10:08] <ZachK_> elky: nope........completely forgot.....was intending to do so....
[10:09] <ZachK_> Ah well....
[10:09] <elky> ZachK_, sorry. we don't even have quorum anyway, so you haven't missed really. put your stuff up there now and we'll see you in a fortnight, ok? :)
[10:09] <ZachK_> ah ok....
[10:10] <ZachK_> when is the next meeting?
[10:11] <elky> One fortnight from this moment.
[10:11] <elky> I think....
[10:12] <elky> Yes, pretty sure.
[10:12] <ZachK_> fortnight is two weeks right?
[10:14] <elky> yes
[10:15] <ZachK_> cool....
[10:15] <ZachK_> thanks....
[10:15] <ZachK_> gonna add myself now
[10:15] <elky> Thanks :)
[10:17] <lifeless> \o/
[10:24] <persia> OOps!
[10:24] <elky> wait, we have quorum?
[10:25] <persia> Sorry about that.
[10:25] <elky> That's ok, he hadn't added himself anyway. not sure opening the floodgates to walk-ins is really worth it
[10:25] <persia> I'd much prefer not to do that, just on general principles.
[10:26] <elky> Yeah
[10:26] <elky> Once you do it once...
[10:26] <persia> But I still feel bad for being late.
[13:00] <NCommander> #startmeeting
[13:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 08:00. The chair is NCommander.
[13:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[13:00]  * ogra waves
[13:00] <JamieBennett> moo
[13:00]  * GrueMaster blinks
[13:00] <NCommander> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20100323
[13:00] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20100323
[13:00] <dyfet> rubs eyes
[13:00] <NCommander> [topic] Action Item Review
[13:00] <MootBot> New Topic:  Action Item Review
[13:00] <NCommander> [topic] GrueMaster & plars to investigate imx51 suspend issue
[13:00] <MootBot> New Topic:  GrueMaster & plars to investigate imx51 suspend issue
[13:01] <plars> seems to be fixed, from my perspective
[13:01] <plars> tested a new kernel
[13:01] <plars> this time, not just backing out patches, but with an actual fix
[13:01] <plars> in both cases, I am no longer able to reproduce the bug
[13:01]  * davidm needs coffee
[13:01] <ogra> ++
[13:02] <GrueMaster> davidm: grab me a cup, please.
[13:02] <plars> GrueMaster: ? are you still seeing it though?  iirc you were still able to reproduce it even with some of the kernels where I was not seeing it
[13:02] <GrueMaster> I was going to look yesterday, but got pulled away.  I'll look at it now.
[13:03] <GrueMaster> yesterday's image works for me.
[13:04] <GrueMaster> I'll run your checkbox test later for more thorough testing.
[13:04] <asac> hi
[13:04]  * NCommander waits for the goahead to move on
[13:04] <plars> great!
[13:04] <asac> NCommander: sending a round ping to all before starting would be a good addition to your services
[13:04] <GrueMaster> Roll on one.
[13:04] <asac> :)
[13:04] <plars> NCommander: I think we're done
[13:04] <NCommander> [topic] persia to bring remove any unneeded images from antimony
[13:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  persia to bring remove any unneeded images from antimony
[13:05] <persia> StevenK: killed the last of them yesterday.
[13:05] <persia> We ended up a bit delayed because of beta, but we're down to six images.
[13:05]  * ogra will add more :P
[13:06]  * persia dreams of kernel unification
[13:06]  * NCommander +1s that dream
[13:06] <StevenK> Yes, it will jump up to 9
[13:06] <StevenK> Soon
[13:06] <asac> persia: what images got killed?
[13:06] <StevenK> asac: ubuntu-desktop alternate
[13:06] <ogra> well, if we ever get a working kernel for omap at least
[13:06] <asac> kk
[13:08] <asac> ok
[13:08] <asac> can we move on?
[13:08] <NCommander> [topic] Standing Item Review
[13:08] <MootBot> New Topic:  Standing Item Review
[13:08] <NCommander> [topic] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile.html
[13:08] <MootBot> New Topic:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile.html
[13:08] <NCommander> [link] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile-ubuntu-10.04-beta-2.html
[13:08] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile-ubuntu-10.04-beta-2.html
[13:09] <asac> ok seems all is waiting for me ;)
[13:09] <asac> StevenK: is the webservice office part seeded?
[13:09] <ogra> slacker !
[13:09] <ogra> :)
[13:09] <plars> heh
[13:09] <StevenK> Is it in main yet?
[13:09] <asac> StevenK: it has an approved MIR
[13:10] <asac> dyfet:  Package and maintain Canola and deps in a ppa
[13:10] <asac> whats going on there?
[13:10] <StevenK> asac: Okay, give me the bug number and I'll sort it out tomorrow
[13:10] <StevenK> Promotion, seeding, etc, etc
[13:10] <asac> StevenK: guess the only bug open against webservice-office-zoho ;)
[13:10] <dyfet> We are not packaging the current canola stuff
[13:11] <StevenK> I was guessing you had the bug number handy. Guess not. :-P
[13:11] <dyfet> At least outside of a ppa
[13:11] <JamieBennett> StevenK: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/webservice-office-zoho/+bug/537323
[13:11] <asac> dyfet: that task is about getting the stuff in a ppa
[13:11] <dyfet> It is in a ppa now for lucid :)
[13:11] <asac> dyfet: which ppa?
[13:11] <dyfet> We were hoping to archive it for lucid though
[13:11] <asac> no archive was off the plate for a bit
[13:12] <dyfet> It's a temporary one I setup...I can send you the url in just a sec
[13:12] <asac> dyfet: please post that as a status update to the blueprint and set your work item to DONE
[13:12] <dyfet> asac: https://launchpad.net/~dyfet/+archive/canola2 - okay, will do
[13:13] <asac> dyfet: are all the packages in there, not in the archive?
[13:13] <asac> or are some updates/patched packages?
[13:13] <dyfet> They are all there and updated for current packaging policies
[13:13] <dyfet> Originally I was hoping to push them to revu...
[13:13] <asac> dyfet: i mean: is there any package in the ppa that isnt in the archvie?
[13:13] <asac> err
[13:13] <ogra> heh
[13:13] <asac> any package that also is in the archive ;)
[13:14] <dyfet> Probably not
[13:14] <asac> i want to understand if all packages are NEW
[13:14] <dyfet> Yes they are all new
[13:14] <asac> ok
[13:14] <asac> dyfet: so what makes you think this is not going to happen in the archive?
[13:14] <dyfet> Because most are packages that are now abandoned
[13:14] <asac> i dont understand that
[13:14] <asac> please elaborate ;)
[13:14] <dyfet> That is canola2 is being written using different dependencies
[13:15] <dyfet> (re-written)
[13:15] <asac> who is leading that effort
[13:15] <dyfet> So episilon and all the etk stuff are dead-end packages
[13:15] <asac> ?
[13:15] <dyfet> I have to go back into my email...
[13:15] <asac> lets take that offline
[13:15] <asac> thanks for the update
[13:15] <dyfet> okay :)
[13:16] <NCommander> can I move on?
[13:16] <asac> yes next standing item please
[13:16] <NCommander> [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, ericm)
[13:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  Kernel Status (cooloney, ericm)
[13:16] <cooloney> hi guys
[13:16] <asac> hi cooloney
[13:16] <cooloney> no much from my side
[13:16] <asac> cooloney: one question
[13:16] <cooloney> i think we fixed the suspend/resume regression
[13:16] <cooloney> asac: yeah,
[13:16] <asac> cooloney: do you have getting the NEON thing into karmic-proposed on your plate?
[13:17] <asac> the kernel was dropped because of security update
[13:17] <asac> and now we need to get that in again as some folks need that ;)
[13:17] <ogra> asac, i thought smb wanted to care for it
[13:17] <cooloney> asac: i did not track that, i assume it was in karmic-proposed already
[13:17] <asac> ogra: nothing happened
[13:18] <cooloney> right, smb helped that i think
[13:18] <asac> cooloney: it was in tehre, got dropped and yesterday nothing has happened
[13:18] <asac> cooloney: can you drive this? e.g. poke smb etc.?
[13:18] <cooloney> actually, i did not test karmic for several weeks
[13:18] <cooloney> asac: no problem, please an action item for me
[13:18] <cooloney> s/an/add
[13:18] <asac> [ACTION] cooloney to get karmic-proposed imx51 kernel with NEON fix in
[13:18] <ogra> i just pinged him in the other channel, please take over  :)
[13:18] <asac> NCommander: ^
[13:19] <cooloney> ogra: thanks man
[13:19] <asac> cooloney: suspend/resume: did you close the bug?
[13:19] <asac> ;)
[13:19] <cooloney> asac: yeah, it should be close since the patch was merged
[13:19] <asac> found that kernel bugs often dont get closed when they are fixed
[13:19] <asac> cool
[13:19] <NCommander> [action] cooloney to get karmic-proposed imx51 kernel with NEON fix in
[13:19] <MootBot> ACTION received:  cooloney to get karmic-proposed imx51 kernel with NEON fix in
[13:19] <GrueMaster> asac: Little premature.  Let me run the test suite today first.
[13:19] <asac> cooloney: ok.thanks
[13:19] <asac> ericm isnt here
[13:20] <asac> lets  move on then
[13:20] <ogra> amitk isnt either :(
[13:20] <plars> GrueMaster: I believe it's just going into proposed at this point
[13:20]  * ogra would like an update on the omap kernel
[13:20] <ogra> we need to invite him for future meetings
[13:20]  * asac takes care that they get in next time
[13:20] <asac> [ACTION] ncommander to extend invite to ericm and amitk
[13:21] <NCommander> [ACTION] ncommander to extend invite to ericm and amitk
[13:21] <MootBot> ACTION received:  ncommander to extend invite to ericm and amitk
[13:21] <NCommander> asac: ericm should be here
[13:21] <ogra> he has a standing invite
[13:21] <asac> NCommander: not for me ;)
[13:21] <NCommander> [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster, plars)
[13:21] <MootBot> New Topic:  QA Status (GrueMaster, plars)
[13:21]  * asac hands mic to GrueMaster 
[13:22]  * ogra moves to the edge of his seat in awe and excitement
[13:22] <GrueMaster> Beta 1 looks very solid.  Still some bugs to work on, but major progress towards image stability has been made.
[13:22] <plars> beta testing done, netboot images failed pretty badly, other than that, and a carried over bug on imx51 (dup of a non-arm specific bug) images were in pretty good shape
[13:22] <plars> suspend/resume results have started to show up on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Testing
[13:23] <asac> GrueMaster: any bugs of particual interest that need to be worked/discussed?
[13:23] <ogra> cooloney asked about a graphics issue on imx51 recently
[13:23] <ogra> that seemsed to show up since plymouth changed
[13:24] <plars> I was unable to reproduce that on babbage 3, but he mentioned that he was on 2.5
[13:24] <cooloney> ogra: sorry,
[13:24] <GrueMaster> We are still having sound issues on Dove.
[13:24] <cooloney> i did apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:24] <cooloney> now it works fine
[13:24] <ogra> ok
[13:24] <ogra> then i'll count that as a non-issue :D
[13:24] <plars> GrueMaster: sound issues are on both imx51 and dove
[13:25] <asac> same issues?
[13:25] <plars> but yes, I've done some more debugging on the dove one, and need to go get straces now
[13:25] <asac> all pulseaudio related?
[13:25] <plars> unless someone beats me to it
[13:25] <plars> seems so,k yes
[13:26] <cooloney> ogra: do you have any feedback about the regular issue from fsl?
[13:26] <asac> plars: do we have simple test cases in the bugs?
[13:26] <plars> asac: yes
[13:26] <cooloney> regulator
[13:26] <cooloney> sorry
[13:26] <plars> very
[13:26] <ogra> cooloney, nope, we pointed it out in the last call but no answer yet
[13:26] <ogra> asac, ^^^ lets poke again tonight
[13:26] <cooloney> ogra: got you
[13:27] <asac> yeah
[13:27] <ogra> and start considering it as nice-to-have probably
[13:27] <GrueMaster> The sound bug on Dove is Bug #528524
[13:27] <ogra> i.e. make it vanish from the action items
[13:28] <ogra> s/action/work/
[13:28] <asac> plars: the checkbox result pacge.
[13:28] <asac> maybe this can have an executive summary on top?
[13:28] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Testing/SusresResults/imx51-20100318
[13:28] <asac> thats where i am looking at
[13:28] <plars> asac: the easiest thing to do is to click on "questions"
[13:28] <plars> and focus on that section for results
[13:28] <persia> Sound issues on specific hardware are very unlikely to be related to pulseaudio in anyway.  It's most likely an ASoC issue or some mismatch between ALSA lib versions.
[13:29] <plars> I basically just convert the output to a wiki format as best as possible with my rudimentary knowledge of xslt
[13:29] <asac> well. pulse needs some sophisitaction of the drivers
[13:29] <asac> mighzt be that ours are just too dumb ;)
[13:29] <asac> plars: yeah tahts fine
[13:29] <asac> plars: what are we doing with those that failed?
[13:30] <persia> asac: pulse *doesn't* have drivers.  ALSA/ASoC do.
[13:30] <asac> persia: yes, but the issue is still a pulse issue as its unconvered by it ;)
[13:30] <asac> sure its a driver issue in the end
[13:30] <asac> just a pulse specific one ;)
[13:30] <plars> asac: bugs are in for them, I'll try to go back and update with the bug #'s... at least one failed because of something I need to fix in the test.  I'll get that fixed up and update
[13:30] <asac> (if its pulse related at all)
[13:30] <persia> I guess, but it can't be fixed in pulseaudio, so I still say the bug isn't targeted properly :)
[13:31] <asac> plars: the "wait a bit after resume so the CPU settled" fix?
[13:31] <plars> asac: yes, exactly
[13:31] <plars> really just needed in that one case
[13:31] <plars> because of timing
[13:31] <asac> persia: well. pulseaudio folks are best to analyze that imo as they are the ones that know what the driver needs to support ...
[13:31] <asac> persia: but yeah we can move it to alsa
[13:31] <asac> the alsa folks should be aware now ;)
[13:31] <asac> ok lets move on
[13:32] <persia> Is it ALSA or ASoC for that board?
[13:32] <asac> cooloney: ?
[13:32] <cooloney> persia: is ASoC
[13:32] <cooloney> actually ASoC is a sub system of ALSA in kernel
[13:33] <asac> what does it stand for?
[13:33] <persia> Right, so let's retarget it to "linux-mvl-..."
[13:33] <cooloney> it's good for SoC's
[13:33] <persia> ALSA System On a Chip
[13:33] <cooloney> ALSA SoC = ASoC
[13:33] <cooloney> yeah
[13:33] <cooloney> System on Chip
[13:33] <asac> if we target it aganist linux-mvl- ... this has to be fixed by mvl
[13:34] <asac> if we use alsa, some random guy might have some ideas - guess the code is public
[13:34] <ogra> linux-mvl- is too
[13:34] <asac> ogra: yes, but noone knowing anything about sound is subscribed to that package
[13:34] <persia> And it's 90% likely to be an issue with quirking in the ASoC stuff.
[13:35]  * GrueMaster is going to regret this but...
[13:35] <persia> asac: If you want crimsun to look at the bug, that's just a matter of asking :)
[13:35] <GrueMaster> How about if I check the latest alsa?
[13:35] <persia> GrueMaster: That's another good idea.
[13:35] <asac> GrueMaster: how much time would that take?
[13:35]  * asac doorbell
[13:35] <ogra> ALSA or ASoC dorbell ?
[13:36] <GrueMaster> asac: I don't know off hand.  Need to download the code and build against current kernel.  Also will need the existing audio disabled in the kernel.  two days for build time?
[13:36] <asac> lets first get crimsun etc. comment on the bug
[13:37] <persia> GrueMaster: Take care: if it's ASoC, ALSA trunk won't help much.
[13:37] <asac> and then decide what to do
[13:37] <plars> asac: he has been looking at it
[13:37] <GrueMaster> persia: why do you say that?
[13:37] <asac> plars: what did he say?
[13:37] <plars> asac: next thing he asked for was a stack trace
[13:37] <plars> that was last night, and I haven't had a chance yet
[13:37] <asac> ok cool. do what he says for now
[13:37] <persia> GrueMaster: Last I heard, ASoC included a number of patches to some ALSA stuff that meant it was better to pull ASoC trunk than ALSA trunk to play.  I may not be current, or I may even be wrong.
[13:38] <plars> asac: I will do it this morning
[13:38] <asac> [ACTION] plars to follow up with crimsun on the sound bug and report back
[13:38] <asac> NCommander: ^^
[13:38] <asac> thanks
[13:38] <asac> lets move on ;)
[13:38] <GrueMaster> I've seen a bunch of ASOC patches fly through the alsa mailing list recently.
[13:38] <NCommander> [topic] ARM Application status (JamieBennett, dyfet)
[13:38] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM Application status (JamieBennett, dyfet)
[13:38] <NCommander> [ACTION] plars to follow up with crimsun on the sound bug and report back
[13:38] <MootBot> ACTION received:  plars to follow up with crimsun on the sound bug and report back
[13:38] <cooloney> yeah, ASoC is in the heavy development
[13:39] <cooloney> since it supports hundreds of SOC and hundreds of CODEC
[13:39] <persia> Yeah.
[13:39] <JamieBennett> Not much to report, webservice-office-zoho needs seeding and this branch needs sponsoring: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jamiebennett/+junk/webservice-office-zoho.auto.distutils
[13:39] <persia> Moving on ...
[13:39] <cooloney> but for userspace, it is supposed to be the same as alsa
[13:39] <cooloney> ok
[13:40] <asac> JamieBennett: can you produce the packaging?
[13:40] <asac> e.g. the three pieces?
[13:40] <JamieBennett> asac: OK
[13:40] <asac> we have to redo the branches and kill the debian/ part of it so i can sponsor it ;)
[13:41] <JamieBennett> asac: OK I'll chat after the meeting about it
[13:41] <JamieBennett> move on?
[13:42] <asac> yes
[13:42] <JamieBennett> NCommander: ^
[13:42] <JamieBennett> heh
[13:43] <ogra> can someone call his mobile ? :P
[13:43] <JamieBennett> [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, dyfet)
[13:43] <plars> yeah, sec
[13:43] <ogra> we need a remote controlled ship-horn near his laptop :)
[13:44] <dyfet> I did a number of ftbfs/missing deps last week.  I will list them on the status page
[13:44] <asac> dyfet: did those get uploaded?
[13:44] <StevenK> ogra: "foghorn"
[13:44] <NCommander> sorry
[13:44] <ogra> StevenK, ah, that was the word, yeah
[13:44] <dyfet> I know NCommander offered to sponsor a few
[13:45] <NCommander> [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, dyfet)
[13:45] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, dyfet)
[13:45] <asac> dyfet: please more aggressively request sponsorship from me too
[13:45] <dyfet> okay :)
[13:45] <ogra> StevenK, publically accessible via a webpage (and i'll blog about it :) )
[13:45] <asac> things shouldnt wait for an upload longer than half a day
[13:45]  * NCommander got distracted by his other half
[13:45] <asac> dyfet: which packages are those you fixed? anything from main still?
[13:45] <StevenK> Huh? ECONTEXT
[13:45] <dyfet> A couple were from main, including a kde related package
[13:46] <NCommander> OOo's fix uploaded, and the build broke. Seems to be buildd instability, but will have to watch closely
[13:46] <ogra> did you see likewise FTBFS ?
[13:46]  * ogra gave it back, seemed to be a segfault
[13:46] <ogra> please keep an eye on it though
[13:46] <NCommander> ogra: do I hadn't
[13:46] <NCommander> *no
[13:47]  * dmart reconnects
[13:47] <asac> so for libplist we ended up in a situation where builders fail
[13:47] <NCommander> anything else?
[13:47] <asac> because they dont have thumb support
[13:48] <ogra> ugh
[13:48] <asac> its testcases that get sigill
[13:48] <asac> so its the first time we have that
[13:48] <ogra> thats the first package we have failing like that
[13:48] <dmart> Aren't the builders v7?
[13:48] <ogra> snap
[13:48] <asac> dmart: kernel isnt
[13:48] <asac> dmart: i would think
[13:48] <asac> its pegatron
[13:48] <NCommander> ogra: can't we disable sigill?
[13:48] <NCommander> er
[13:48] <asac> so we can wait for the builder upgrade
[13:48] <NCommander> *cough*
[13:48] <NCommander> the test case
[13:48]  * asac pokes lamont again
[13:48] <ogra> asac, can we ?
[13:48] <asac> or use -marm to get that built
[13:48] <dmart> Thumb-2 in userspace should still be supported.
[13:48] <ogra> when is that due ?
[13:49] <dmart> Localised -marm might be OK as a solution
[13:49] <asac> dmart: it definitly isnt on those machines. it works well here on bbg/dove and in chroots on both
[13:49] <dmart> Is libplist important?
[13:49] <asac> when logging into the pegatrons i get SIGILL
[13:49] <asac> dmart: its in main
[13:49] <asac> dmart: i fixed endianess for floating point, so at least we should use -marm
[13:49] <dmart> I mean, is it performance- or code-size- critical in any way?
[13:49] <ogra> unlikely
[13:49] <asac> dmart: i dont think so
[13:50] <asac> its used by:
[13:50] <asac>   python-imobiledevice
[13:50] <asac>   libplist-utils
[13:50] <asac>   libimobiledevice-utils
[13:50] <asac>   python-gpod
[13:50] <persia> It's really only important for dealing with client iPods.
[13:50] <asac>   libplist-dev
[13:50] <asac>   libplist-dbg
[13:50] <asac>   libplist++1
[13:50] <dmart> -marm is probably OK then
[13:50] <asac>   libplist++-dev
[13:50] <asac>   libimobiledevice0
[13:50] <asac>   libgpod4-nogtk
[13:50] <asac>   libgpod4
[13:50] <ogra> Description: Library for handling Apple binary and XML property lists
[13:50] <asac>   libgpod-common
[13:50] <persia> !paste | asac
[13:50] <asac> (sorry for the ast)
[13:50] <asac> yeah pod
[13:50] <asac> dmart: ok. lets do that and retry without when we have the bbg builders
[13:50] <asac> persia: you just created additional noise
[13:50] <dmart> OK
[13:50] <asac> for no news ;)
[13:51]  * asac will upload with -marm
[13:51] <asac> ok thats it from my side
[13:51] <ogra> move on ?
[13:51] <NCommander> [action] asac to upload libplist with -marm
[13:51] <MootBot> ACTION received:  asac to upload libplist with -marm
[13:51] <NCommander> [topic] Any Other Business
[13:51] <MootBot> New Topic:  Any Other Business
[13:51]  * ogra kicks NCommander 
[13:51] <ogra> move one back
[13:51] <asac> what did he skip?
[13:51] <ogra> image status
[13:51] <NCommander> [topic] ARM Image Status
[13:51] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM Image Status
[13:51] <ogra> heh
[13:51]  * NCommander is not with it this morning
[13:52] <ogra> imx51 and dove images build stable since several days and look good
[13:52] <ogra> omap is in preparation
[13:52] <ogra> x-loader and u-boot are in the archive, MIRs will be filed today
[13:52]  * dmart has an AOB (delayed by looking up the bug number)
[13:52] <asac> when do we expect the first images to become available?
[13:52] <asac> dmart: thats next ;)
[13:52] <ogra> i'll shove them on asac's desk then
[13:52] <asac> thanks
[13:52] <dmart> k
[13:53] <ogra> the kernel isnt there yet
[13:53] <ogra> so without kernel no images
[13:53] <ogra> as soon as its there its a matter of 1-2 days
[13:53] <asac> ogra: thought the kernel just didnt boot ;)=
[13:53] <ogra> me working out the image concept and testing it, StevenK committing it to the builders
[13:53] <asac> e.g. we could get images with a non-booting kernel
[13:53] <ogra> asac, it has tons of bugs
[13:53] <ogra> its not in the archive
[13:54] <asac> right. just wonder why waiting for the kernel blocks finishing all the imaging stuff
[13:54] <ogra> i wouldnt mind having buggy images
[13:54] <asac> ah
[13:54] <ogra> but it needs to be uploaded and go through NEW
[13:54] <ogra> and we dont have a meta yet
[13:54] <ogra> which d-i needs
[13:54] <ogra> for our fallback images
[13:54] <ogra> everything blocks on that atm
[13:54] <StevenK> asac: Because I need to see where the kernels lands, main or universe for my livecd-rootfs changes
[13:55] <StevenK> And a meta package for the kernel
[13:55] <ogra> StevenK, will be main
[13:55] <asac> main yeah
[13:55] <ogra> but meta needs to be there and we need the debian-cd patches
[13:55] <ogra> or cdimage ... fwiw
[13:55] <StevenK> Both
[13:55] <StevenK> I'll upload livecd-rootfs tomorrow
[13:55] <StevenK> Er, today
[13:55] <ogra> great
[13:55] <StevenK> At some point in the next diurnal period
[13:55] <ogra> so i can roll squashfs'es for testing
[13:56] <ogra> as soon as we have a kernel
[13:56] <StevenK> You can't, since it will want the kernel
[13:56] <StevenK> Ah
[13:56] <ogra> yeah
[13:56] <ogra> for image building we should be able to abuse the code dove uses
[13:56] <asac> ok so imx51/dove are good and we should have an omap image by end of week. sounds good ;)
[13:56] <ogra> just adding two cp's to get MLO and u-boot in place
[13:57] <ogra> right
[13:57] <ogra> move on
[13:57] <NCommander> [topic] Any Other Business
[13:57] <MootBot> New Topic:  Any Other Business
[13:57] <asac> dmart: ^
[13:57] <dmart> Thanks ;)
[13:57] <dmart> I just reconfirmed this one - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/443147
[13:57] <StevenK> ogra: I think about the only thing is how to make the image bootable
[13:57] <dmart> It applies to 3.6 too
[13:58] <dmart> I'm wondering whether the priority should be bumped
[13:58] <asac> hmm
[13:58] <asac> found issue?
[13:58] <ogra> StevenK, right, the vfat might need to be special (active and marked bootable or some such)
[13:58] <asac> let me try
[13:59] <dmart> The pain really starts when Google maps starts drawing balloons
[13:59] <StevenK> ogra: Anyway, you and I can sort that out once we have a kernel
[13:59] <ogra> StevenK, beyond that we only need to copy the two binaries into the vfat in the right order (MLO needs to be in the first sectors of the image)
[13:59] <ogra> right
[14:00] <asac> dmart: i dont see it if i start it through ssh
[14:00] <asac> dmart: thats bbg?
[14:00] <dmart> Yes, hang on I'll see what happens with ssh for me...
[14:00] <asac> the chromium dove issue definitly persists through ssh
[14:00] <asac> so if this doesnt it means its coming from X server somehow
[14:01] <asac> try setting browser.zoom.full to false in about:config
[14:01] <asac> and zoom out using ctrl--
[14:01] <asac> maybe it goes away with smaller fonts?
[14:01] <asac> hmm i see it on google maps
[14:02]  * NCommander notes we're now over
[14:02] <NCommander> asac: can you take this discussion offline?
[14:02] <asac> yeah. that bug should get upstreamed
[14:02] <asac> and so on
[14:02] <asac> wilil follow up
[14:02] <NCommander> anything else to be brought up quickly?
[14:02] <asac> nope
[14:02] <asac> go ahead and close the meeting ;)
[14:02] <NCommander> [action] asac and dmart to follow up on firefox bug
[14:02] <MootBot> ACTION received:  asac and dmart to follow up on firefox bug
[14:02] <NCommander> #endmeeting
[14:02] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 09:02.
[14:02] <dmart> asac, I'll follow up with you on this in a moment
[14:02] <asac> yeah
[14:02] <GrueMaster> Also, I will hopefully have the equipment to reproduce/debug Bug #519905 this week.
[14:02] <kees> \o
[14:03] <ogra> GrueMaster, cool
[14:03] <dmart> GrueMaster: cool, it would be good to progress that one
[14:03] <ogra> (lets take that to -arm)
[14:03] <cjwatson> Google calendar says the TB meeting is now, but surely this is a DST error
[14:03] <cjwatson> it is usually at 1500 UTC
[14:03] <kees> cjwatson: why is google calendar so unfriendly?
[14:03] <cjwatson> I wish I knew
[14:03] <kees> :)
[14:04] <kees> should we do 1500 then?
[14:04] <cjwatson> unfriendly because it made you get up for 6am?
[14:04] <persia> IT used to be at 14:00, and then moved to 15:00 for winter time.  Is it not expected to move back (admittedly in another week or so)
[14:04] <GrueMaster> Google calendar doesn't understand UTC
[14:04] <cjwatson> or is it 7am
[14:04] <cjwatson> persia: are you sure?  I thought it was scheduled in UTC
[14:04] <kees> cjwatson: luckily, it's unfriendly and follows US DST, so I got up at the same time.  :P
[14:04] <kees> (7am)
[14:05] <persia> cjwatson: Yes, I'm sure.  I'm not sure *when* it moved from 14:00 to 15:00 though: it may not have been this most recent fall.
[14:05] <cjwatson> hmm.  I looked at a random point in September and it was 1500 then, presumably BST, so I guess that would be 1400 UTC
[14:05]  * kees wonders if could set it to Reykjavik's timezone, as they are UTC with no DST
[14:05] <kees> *if we ...
[14:05] <persia> kees: No.  It seems to autodetect desired DST based on the last person to update it.
[14:06] <cjwatson> we don't have much on the agenda, so if everyone's here we can go ahead, otherwise next hour
[14:06] <kees> persia: ewww
[14:07] <kees> cjwatson: I will need to vanish for another appointment in an hour, but it's flexible.
[14:08] <cjwatson> mdz,Keybuk: here?
[14:09] <Keybuk> cjwatson: err?
[14:09] <Keybuk> cjwatson: I have TB in my calendar at 1500
[14:09] <cjwatson> Keybuk: interesting, it lies differently to different people
[14:10]  * pitti didn't even know that it'll move UTC time, but I'm here now
[14:10] <cjwatson> 14:06 <cjwatson> we don't have much on the agenda, so if everyone's here we can go ahead, otherwise next hour
[14:10] <persia> Just for the record, my recollection was the the TB meeting followed British time.
[14:10] <Keybuk> UTC time hasn't changed
[14:10] <Keybuk> only the US has changed
[14:10] <cjwatson> Keybuk: yes, I know gcal is hopelessly buggy
[14:10] <Keybuk> but I'm here now ;)
[14:11] <cjwatson> I swear it shows it as 1400 here even though it probably shouldn't, and it shows the current time as 140something
[14:11] <Keybuk> and quite happy for us to do it here and now
[14:11] <Keybuk> on the floor if needsbe
[14:11] <cjwatson> ok
[14:11] <cjwatson> #startmeeting
[14:11] <MootBot> Meeting started at 09:11. The chair is cjwatson.
[14:11] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[14:11] <cjwatson> [TOPIC] Action review
[14:11] <MootBot> New Topic:  Action review
[14:11] <cjwatson> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/UpdatesPolicy  upstream is http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Minor_Point_Release_Policy/Draft; Riddell to get agreement with KDE on point release criteria
[14:11] <cjwatson> Riddell: any progress on this?
[14:13]  * cjwatson times out
[14:13] <cjwatson> dholbach to finalise LeadershipAppointment page, and close bug on sabdfl role in TB
[14:13] <cjwatson> the latter has been done, not sure about the former
[14:14] <dholbach> cjwatson: sorted out
[14:14] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil/Restaffing
[14:15] <cjwatson> great, thank you
[14:15] <cjwatson> cjwatson to implement edubuntu-dev delegations
[14:15] <cjwatson> done today
[14:16] <cjwatson> [TOPIC] Check up on community bugs (standing item)
[14:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  Check up on community bugs (standing item)
[14:16] <cjwatson> none
[14:16] <cjwatson> [TOPIC] AOB
[14:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  AOB
[14:16] <pitti> (nothing from me, FTR)
[14:16] <cjwatson> I took the liberty of removing archive reorganisation from the standing actions list; we seem to be doing fine at bringing up individual items when they're needed
[14:17] <pitti> ah, that sounds fine; at this point it wasn't really clear any more what to discuss about it
[14:17] <pitti> thanks
[14:17] <cjwatson> also, sabdfl needs to write up the last set of minutes :-)
[14:17] <cjwatson> [ACTION] sabdfl to write up minutes from 2010-03-09 meeting, or delegate
[14:17] <MootBot> ACTION received:  sabdfl to write up minutes from 2010-03-09 meeting, or delegate
[14:18] <cjwatson> I fished them out of irclogs.u.c
[14:19] <cjwatson> OK, doesn't sound like anything else
[14:19] <Keybuk> I'm next alphabetically?
[14:19] <cjwatson> kees is
[14:19] <kees> whee
[14:19] <Keybuk> oh yes, e < y
[14:19] <cjwatson> Keybuk: did you reach a decision on whether you were going to continue as a member of the TB?
[14:20] <Keybuk> cjwatson: I am going to try and find enough time to do it
[14:20] <Keybuk> and see how that goes ;-)
[14:20] <cjwatson> OK, great, glad to hear it
[14:20] <Keybuk> in general, I need to do less better
[14:20] <cjwatson> right, I guess that's it, I'll half-expect to need to chair another meeting in 40 minutes' time ;-)
[14:20] <cjwatson> I know the feeling ...
[14:20] <cjwatson> #endmeeting
[14:20] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 09:20.
[14:21] <pitti> that was a quick one
[14:21] <mdz> cjwatson: hi
[14:21] <pitti> thanks everyone
[14:21] <mdz> I guess I missed it
[14:21] <pitti> mdz: we had long debates, and a real flamewar :)
[14:22] <cjwatson> mdz: ah, I just replied to your SMS
[15:06] <mdz> cjwatson, pitti, Keybuk, hi
[15:07] <cjwatson> hello; are we going round again?
[15:07] <mdz> cjwatson: it was a bit unclear from scrollback
[15:07] <mdz> and I missed the previous meeting, so I'm lacking context
[15:07] <mdz> it looks like a lot of things have vanished from the agenda page
[15:07] <mdz> does that mean they're completed?
[15:08] <cjwatson> Google Calendar was hopelessly confused and was displaying 1400 UTC for some people and 1500 UTC for others, so since we had a quorum with four people we decided to go ahead
[15:08] <cjwatson> I flushed the agenda based on what seemed to have been done
[15:08] <cjwatson> also
[15:08] <cjwatson> 14:16 <cjwatson> I took the liberty of removing archive reorganisation from the standing actions list; we seem to be doing fine at bringing up individual items when they're needed
[15:09] <cjwatson> feel free to restore that if you disagree, it just seems to have been handled adequately otherwise
[15:09] <cjwatson> as far as I know my agenda changes were accurate aside from that
[15:09] <mdz> cjwatson: ok
[15:09] <cjwatson> we voted in the units policy last time, and approved edubuntu-dev delegation
[15:09] <cjwatson> sabdfl was the chair so the minutes have not been written up ;-)
[15:19] <Keybuk> cjwatson: minutes were withheld for tax reasons?
[16:59] <JFo> o/
[16:59] <smb> \O
[16:59] <amitk> o/
[16:59] <kamalm-away> o/
[17:00]  * ogasawara waves
[17:00] <cnd> o/
[17:00] <bjf> #startmeeting
[17:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 12:00. The chair is bjf.
[17:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[17:00] <bjf> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <bjf> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Lucid
[17:00] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Lucid
[17:00] <bjf> #
[17:00] <bjf> # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.
[17:00] <bjf> #
[17:00] <bjf> # NOTE: cking, rtg, apw and manjo are all out today
[17:00] <bjf> #
[17:01]  * jjohansen waves
[17:01] <bjf> [TOPIC] Open Action Item: JFo to send out regression bug day announcements on monday
[17:01] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open Action Item: JFo to send out regression bug day announcements on monday
[17:01] <JFo> yep, I failed in that.
[17:01] <bjf> will carry it over
[17:01] <JFo> I need to get with pgraner on the schedule going forward
[17:01] <JFo> ok
[17:01] <JFo> ..
[17:01] <bjf> [TOPIC] Open Action Item: JFo to do a wiki page on regression bug days
[17:01] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open Action Item: JFo to do a wiki page on regression bug days
[17:02] <JFo> this item is in progress
[17:02] <JFo> please carry firward
[17:02] <bjf> will carry it over :-)
[17:02] <JFo> forward*
[17:02] <JFo> :)
[17:02] <JFo> ..
[17:02] <bjf> [TOPIC] Release Metrics: (JFo)
[17:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  Release Metrics: (JFo)
[17:02] <JFo> Bugs (Release Meeting Bugs / RC Milestoned Bugs / Release Targeted Bugs)
[17:02] <JFo> Release Meeting Bugs (3 bugs, 3 blueprints)
[17:02] <JFo> [17:02] <JFo> Beta 2 Milestoned Bugs (108 bugs against all packages)
[17:02] <JFo>  * 13 linux kernel bugs
[17:02] <JFo>  * 0 linux-fsl-imx51 bugs
[17:02] <JFo>  * 1 linux-ec2 bug
[17:02] <JFo>  * 1 linux-mvl-dove bugs
[17:02] <JFo> [17:02] <JFo> Release Targeted Bugs (300 bugs against all packages)
[17:02] <JFo>  * 30 linux kernel bugs
[17:02] <JFo>  * 0 linux-fsl-imx51 bugs
[17:02] <JFo>  * 1 linux-ec2 bug
[17:02] <JFo>  * 2 linux-mvl-dove bugs
[17:02] <JFo> [17:03] <JFo> Milestoned Features -
[17:03] <JFo>  * 0 blueprints
[17:03] <JFo>     
[17:03] <JFo> [17:03] <JFo> Bugs with Patches Attached:119 (up 4)
[17:03] <JFo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?field.has_patch=on
[17:03] <JFo> Breakdown by status:
[17:03] <JFo> http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ogasawara/csv-stats/bugs-with-patches/linux/
[17:03] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ogasawara/csv-stats/bugs-with-patches/linux/
[17:03] <JFo> ..
[17:03] <bjf> [TOPIC] Blueprints: kernel-lucid-bug-handling (JFo)
[17:03] <bjf> [LINK] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kernel-lucid-bug-handling
[17:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  Blueprints: kernel-lucid-bug-handling (JFo)
[17:03] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kernel-lucid-bug-handling
[17:03] <JFo> nothing to report
[17:03] <JFo> ..
[17:03] <bjf> [TOPIC] Blueprints: kernel-lucid-kernel-config-review (apw)
[17:03] <bjf> [LINK] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kernel-lucid-kernel-config-review
[17:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  Blueprints: kernel-lucid-kernel-config-review (apw)
[17:03] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kernel-lucid-kernel-config-review
[17:04] <bjf> i'm assuming nothing new here
[17:04] <smb> I guess all in good shape
[17:04] <bjf> [TOPIC] Blueprints: kernel-lucid-kms (sconklin / apw)
[17:04] <bjf> [LINK] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kernel-lucid-kms
[17:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  Blueprints: kernel-lucid-kms (sconklin / apw)
[17:04] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kernel-lucid-kms
[17:04] <sconklin> Testing of the beta has been mostly good so far, I have a couple of "blank screen on install" bugs to look at
[17:04] <sconklin> ..
[17:04] <bjf> [TOPIC] Blueprints: kernel-lucid-apparmor-development (jjohansen)
[17:04] <bjf> [LINK] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kernel-lucid-apparmor-development
[17:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  Blueprints: kernel-lucid-apparmor-development (jjohansen)
[17:04] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kernel-lucid-apparmor-development
[17:05] <jjohansen> another lkml push going out today, will
[17:05] <jjohansen> also issue pull requests for the bug fixes
[17:05] <jjohansen> it includes.
[17:05] <jjohansen> since beta 1 release have picked up
[17:05] <jjohansen> another couple bugs to look at with security team
[17:05] <jjohansen> Bug #544819, Bug #544789, Bug #544764
[17:05] <jjohansen> and there is Bug #529288 which I haven't been able to reproduce and currently looks as if it is caused by memory corruption
[17:05] <jjohansen> ...
[17:05] <bjf> [TOPIC] Blueprints: kernel-lucid-boot-performance (apw, csurbhi)
[17:05] <bjf> [LINK] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kernel-lucid-boot-performance
[17:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Blueprints: kernel-lucid-boot-performance (apw, csurbhi)
[17:05] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kernel-lucid-boot-performance
[17:06] <bjf> probably nothing new here
[17:06] <bjf> [TOPIC] Other Release Tasks: Lucid Audio Support (bjf)
[17:06] <MootBot> New Topic:  Other Release Tasks: Lucid Audio Support (bjf)
[17:06] <bjf> Still working on the bug survey. I've moved to working on modifications to arsenal
[17:06] <bjf> scripts to do more of the work. I've done a bit of refactoring of Bryce's process-new-bugs.py
[17:06] <bjf> script and sent it to him. I'll take his feedback and appy the changes to our scripts
[17:06] <bjf> as well. I'm trying to make it so we don't fork the scripts quite so much.
[17:06] <bjf> ..
[17:07] <bjf> [TOPIC] Other Release Tasks: Lucid Better Power Mgt (cnd)
[17:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  Other Release Tasks: Lucid Better Power Mgt (cnd)
[17:07] <cnd> sent some patches upstream to pm-utils
[17:07] <cnd> waiting on feedback
[17:07] <cnd> will push out a new set of packages when I hear back
[17:07] <cnd> ..
[17:08] <bjf> [TOPIC] Other Release Tasks: EC2 Lucid Kernel Status (jjohansen)
[17:08] <MootBot> New Topic:  Other Release Tasks: EC2 Lucid Kernel Status (jjohansen)
[17:08] <jjohansen> Testing fix for Bug #527208, which also seems to fix Bug #540378
[17:08] <jjohansen> other than those its looking good
[17:08] <jjohansen> ..
[17:09] <bjf> [TOPIC] Status: Lucid (smb)
[17:09] <MootBot> New Topic:  Status: Lucid (smb)
[17:09] <smb> Dapper:      2.6.15-55.83  (security)
[17:09] <smb> Hardy:       2.6.24-27.68  (security) *
[17:09] <smb> Intrepid:    2.6.27-17.46  (security)
[17:09] <smb> Jaunty:      2.6.28-18.60  (security)
[17:09] <smb> Karmic:      2.6.31-20.58  (security) *
[17:09] <smb>  - LBM       2.6.31-20.22  (updates)  *
[17:09] <smb>  - mvl-dove  2.6.31-212.26 (security) *
[17:09] <smb>  - fsl-imx51 2.6.31-109.25 (security) *
[17:09] <smb>  - ec2       2.6.31-305.13 (security) *
[17:09] <smb> Packages marked with '*' have been uploaded to proposed. Planned acceptance
[17:09] <smb> into proposed is tomorrow.
[17:09] <smb> Oops
[17:09] <smb> Too used to be called only for later
[17:09] <bjf> :-) fooled you
[17:10] <smb> Ok, apw uploaded a kernel including 2.6.32.10 and a newer igb driver
[17:10] <smb> I uploaded meta today so it will probably get offered soonish
[17:10] <smb> I would gather updates till Friday
[17:10] <smb> And then do another upload.
[17:10] <smb> ..
[17:11] <bjf> was that an abi bumper?
[17:11] <smb> 2.6.32.10, yes. But even if it would not have been, we would have bumbed
[17:11] <smb> Just to keep a fallback kernel for people
[17:11] <smb> ..
[17:11] <bjf> [TOPIC] Security & bugfix kernels - Karmic/Jaunty/Intrepid/Hardy/Others (gnarl/smb)
[17:11] <MootBot> New Topic:  Security & bugfix kernels - Karmic/Jaunty/Intrepid/Hardy/Others (gnarl/smb)
[17:12] <smb> see above.
[17:12] <smb> ..
[17:12] <bjf> [TOPIC] Incoming Bugs: Regressions (JFo)
[17:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  Incoming Bugs: Regressions (JFo)
[17:12] <JFo> Incoming Bugs
[17:12] <JFo> 328/438 Lucid Bugs (up 110)
[17:12] <JFo> Current regression stats (broken down by release):
[17:12] <JFo> [17:12] <JFo>   * 128 lucid bugs
[17:12] <JFo> [17:12] <JFo>   * 12 karmic bugs
[17:12] <JFo>   * 5 jaunty bugs
[17:12] <JFo>   * 2 intrepid bugs
[17:12] <JFo>   * 1 hardy bug
[17:12] <JFo> [17:12] <JFo>   * 53 karmic bugs
[17:12] <JFo>   * 22 jaunty bugs
[17:12] <JFo>   * 11 intrepid bugs
[17:12] <JFo>   * 4 hardy bugs
[17:12] <JFo> [17:12] <JFo>   * 1 karmic bug
[17:12] <JFo> please note the big bump in regression potential
[17:12] <JFo> ..
[17:12]  * smb notes
[17:13] <JFo> incoming should only be 438
[17:13] <bjf> [TOPIC] Incoming Bugs: Bug day report (JFo)
[17:13] <MootBot> New Topic:  Incoming Bugs: Bug day report (JFo)
[17:13] <JFo> * Today is another Kernel Team 'regression-' bug day. Thanks for working on these last week. I'll be sending out an e-mail this week with the Kernel Team Bug Day schedule for the remainder of the release schedule.
[17:13] <JFo> ..
[17:14] <bjf> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions: Anyone have anything?
[17:14] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open Discussion or Questions: Anyone have anything?
[17:14] <JFo> o/
[17:14] <bjf> go JFo
[17:14] <JFo> I'd like to welcome kamalm to the kernel team
[17:14] <JFo> :)
[17:14] <kamalm> thanks!
[17:14] <amitk> welcome kamalm
[17:14] <bjf> welcome!
[17:14] <JFo> ..
[17:15] <ogasawara> bjf: I've got something . . .
[17:15] <bjf> ogasawara, go
[17:15] <ogasawara> As apw is away on holiday this week, I'll be filling in for him at the release meeting on Friday.  That means I'll be nagging anyone with unfinished work items from blueprints for status.
[17:15] <ogasawara> Note that Beta-2 is ~2 weeks away.
[17:15] <ogasawara> ..
[17:15] <smb> charming nag :)
[17:15] <ogasawara> smb: of course :)
[17:16] <bjf> thanks everyone
[17:16] <bjf> #endmeeting
[17:16] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 12:16.
[17:16] <smb> bjf, Thanks
[17:16] <JFo> thanks bjf
[17:16] <kamalm> thanks bjf
[17:16] <amitk> thanks bjf
[17:16] <sconklin> thanks
[17:17] <psurbhi> thanks bjf