[00:41] <smoser> kirkland, mathiaz http://www.scratchbox.org/ is what i was talking about
[00:41] <smoser> at lunch
[01:16] <pmatulis> when was iSCSI support available in linux?
[01:18] <twb> 2.6.12
[01:18] <twb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISCSI
[01:28] <pmatulis> twb: thanks.  i wanted to compare with OpenBSD (which is just now working on it)
[04:05] <erichammond> what is the syslog that Ubuntu prefers over syslog-ng?
[04:06] <erichammond> ah, rsyslog (I think)
[04:15] <sbeattie> erichammond: correct, rsyslog.
[04:18] <erichammond> sbeattie: Thanks.  Just finished reading the feature list.  disk-based buffering sold me, but I was impressed by many others.
[04:18] <erichammond> I plan to convert from syslog-ng at the next opportunity.
[06:04] <stsm> is there a mips version?
[06:05] <twb> I think persia told me it was in an pre-alpha state
[06:06] <twb> Debian has mipsel, of course...
[06:07] <stsm> lol i'm not even gonna say what i think about debian
[06:08] <stsm> generally its the most negative place i found so far on freenode intirely, thats all i'll say
[06:08] <stsm> i'm looking for something else that supports mips
[06:08] <stsm> if there's nothing else available then debian i'll just choose for nothing
[06:12] <twb> stsm: Debian is not on Freenode.
[06:12] <twb> stsm: if you went to #debian on Freenode, you'd find only the people who are too stupid to read announcements.
[06:12] <stsm> twb, its also on freenode next to oftc
[06:12] <stsm> twb, last time i went to oftc the same people were there
[06:14] <stsm> debian is just no option anymore for me
[06:15] <stsm> so no mips yet for ubuntu-server or ubuntu?
[06:15] <twb> Shrug.  I've told you what I know.
[06:15] <stsm> yeha pre-alpha
[06:16] <psteyn> Hi, any reason why cacti depends on libapache2-mod-php5?  I'm trying to convert my apache2-mpm-prefork +  libapache2-mod-php to an apache2-mpm-worker + libapache2-mod-fcgid setup, but don't want to lose Cacti
[06:16] <psteyn> I think this is a bug
[06:16] <stsm> only thing i can find was a place on launchpad, but its from last year so
[06:16] <stsm> twb, thanx for the info
[06:20] <twb> psteyn: then report it as a bug
[06:23] <psteyn> on it
[07:18] <Callum__> Does anyone know if copying a MBR from one drive to another using dd if=/dev/sd* of=/dev/sd* bs=512 count=1 will wipe out all the other information on the drive?
[07:19] <Callum__> on the drive I'm copying to
[07:24] <twb> Callum__: that copies the partition table, too.
[07:24] <twb> So it'll "wipe it out" in the sense that nothing will see the original partitions
[07:24] <twb> From memory, the bootloader lives in the first 446 bytes.
[07:25] <Callum__> okay
[08:31] <jayvee> soren: if I did you a debdiff of #535397 (hopefully right this time) would you be more likely to fix it? :)
[08:31] <jayvee> hmm, ubottu doesn't recognise it
[08:31] <jayvee> LP #535397
[08:31] <jayvee> https://launchpad.net/bugs/535397
[08:32] <jayvee> ubottu seems to be in a coma
[08:32] <jayvee> so I see.
[09:24] <eagles05138785> hey guys im following this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Git when it says copy the public key what public key?
[09:29] <sherr> eagles05138785: ssh public key it assume you have or know how to make. This is not on topic for #ubuntu-server.
[09:30] <eagles05138785> sherr: i asked in here cuz im setting up git on ubuntu server
[09:33] <sherr> eagles05138785: It is not relevant or specific to server (or desktop) though. Maybe try #git?
[09:33] <eagles05138785> sherr: ok. thanks ill just follow the ubuntu wiki how to on how to generate a key
[10:00] <mealstrom> has someone worked with puppet? how to copy files from client to server ?
[10:00] <eagles05138785> mealstrom: i would recommend scp (secure copy)
[10:01] <jayvee> eagles05138785: irrelevant.
[10:01] <jayvee> puppet works differently.
[10:01] <eagles05138785> ahhh
[10:01] <jayvee> mealstrom: puppet has a built-in puppet:/// URI scheme
[10:01] <eagles05138785> i was answering his 2nd part of the question jayvee
[10:01] <jayvee> oh right
[10:01] <jayvee> well when you know what puppet is, then you see that they are really just one question.
[10:01] <mealstrom> jayvee: yes, I can copy from server to client . and daes it work in client to server way ?
[10:02] <jayvee> ah, I see
[10:02]  * jayvee scratches chin
[10:02] <mealstrom> just want to copy some backups
[10:03] <eagles05138785> mealstrom: ya it does but not 100% sure how to do it
[10:03] <eagles05138785> mealstrom: how big are the backups cuz if they are of decent size you can eat up all your bandwidth
[10:03] <eagles05138785> unless this is a home network
[10:04] <mealstrom> office network 100 Mbit... looks like puppet has "filebucket"  for backup storage.
[10:04] <mealstrom> lets dig filebucket :) thanks btw
[10:04] <twb> Depends what you're backing up.
[10:05] <mealstrom> home directories every 3 month's
[10:05] <twb> If you mean backups of, say, /home, puppet's filebucket is probably not the right thing
[10:05] <mealstrom> FILEFC="/tmp/`ifconfig | grep 192.168.1. | cut -d' ' -f12 | cut -d':' -f2`"
[10:05] <mealstrom> tar -cvzf $FILEFC.tar.gz /home . then just copy this backup to server
[10:05] <twb> mealstrom: I'd just use rsnapshot to backup to another building, and do that every night.
[10:06] <twb> If you have tape or generally want to go overboard, there's amanda
[10:06] <twb> I don't know why anyone would deploy a new tape solution, though.
[10:07] <jayvee> why?
[10:07] <jayvee> what's wrong with tape?
[10:07] <twb> jayvee: it's expensive and slow
[10:07] <twb> For WORN, sure.
[13:07] <yann2> hello, I got a bug to file against the samba apparmor profile in lucid, should I file it against apparmor, against samba, ...? technically it's more a bug of the configuration
[13:07] <yann2> official ubuntu manual recommends to put folders to share in /srv/samba, but apparmor prevents smbd from accessing /srv
[13:08] <jdstrand> yann2: is this from the apparmor-profiles package?
[13:09] <jdstrand> (samba should not be shipping a profile for smbd by default)
[13:09] <yann2> I believe so, I can't remember installing it manually, but I wouldnt rule it out...
[13:09] <yann2> maybe its from apparmor-profile, not impossible that I installed it and forgot about it
[13:09] <jdstrand> yann2: dpkg -S /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.smbd
[13:09] <twb> yann2: report it against apparmor; if you're wrong it'll be reassigned.
[13:09] <yann2> indeed then :)
[13:09] <yann2> apparmor-profiles it is
[13:10] <jdstrand> yann2: feel free to file a bug against apparmor. that profile needs work (it is on the TODO list), is complain mode only and also community supported atm (ie, it's in universe)
[13:11] <jdstrand> yann2: what I mean be all of that is that even though it is installed and noisy, it shouldn't be blocking anything, unless you manually put it in enforcing mode
[13:11] <yann2> was in enforce mode... but I tink I had a play with apparmor a long time ago
[13:11] <yann2> (is a dev server)
[13:12] <yann2> so maybe I just activated it :)
[13:13] <jdstrand> yann2: probably. if you have modified it in such a way that it works well with a default samba installation according to the Ubuntu manual, then please submit your updated profile in the bug and we can review it for inclusion in the package (and upstream)
[13:13] <yann2> haven't touched it (yet)
[13:13] <jdstrand> (and by 'package', I mean the apparmor-profiles package for now)
[13:13]  * jdstrand nods
[13:15] <yann2> is there a way to report a bug using http://bugs.launchpad.net ?
[13:17] <yann2> oh man the guy who decided to remove the "report bug" link on that page really should get fired every time I try to report a bug I just cant find out how to do it
[13:17] <jdstrand> yann2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+filebug
[13:17] <yann2> thanks
[13:17] <jdstrand> np
[13:22] <yann2> alright done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/545061 , thanks a lot for your help jdstrand . I believe quite a few people will get in trouble trying to share other folders when this profile get into enforce mode though ;)
[14:06] <BulleTh0> If I have a subnet routed behind an ip how do I use an ip from that subnet with windows desktops ?
[14:14] <baba_b00ie> hello
[14:16] <BulleTh0> How do I disable NAT ?
[14:18] <baba_b00ie> i'm looking in to building my first ubuntu server. my server would be used as a file server and media sharing with my xbox 360. was hoping someone could point me to some rockin faq, doc websites
[14:30] <Rafael_> i need help with Webmin: si coloco https://xxx.xxx.x.xx:10000 i can see webmin, but if i place  https://hostname:10000 nothing..can somebody please help me?
[14:33] <reisi> Rafael_: could it be intentional?
[14:33] <hggdh> Rafael_, try 'ping `hostname`, and see if the IP addresses match
[14:33] <Rafael_> let me try
[14:35] <Rafael_> hggdh: 64 bytes from myplasticare (127.0.1.1): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.019 ms
[14:35] <Rafael_>  the ip address of the lan ubuntu should be 192.168.1.11 not 127.0.1.1
[14:36] <hggdh> Rafael_, check your /etc/hosts, I am quite sure you will find your hostname maped to 127.0.1.1
[14:37] <Rafael_> hggdh: i am a newby..let me try, if not i will google and if not i will ask you
[14:38] <yann2> mmh it seems hardy's puppetmaster can't handle lucid's puppet :(
[14:38] <yann2> [2010-03-23 14:35:04] 10.0.10.108 - - [23/Mar/2010:14:35:04 GMT] "PUT /production/certificate_request/10.0.10.108 HTTP/1.1" 404 324  < is that worth a bug report, or isn't it supposed to work?
[14:40] <Rafael_> hggdh: this is what i found:
[14:40] <Rafael_> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[14:40] <Rafael_> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[14:40] <Rafael_> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[14:40] <Rafael_> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[14:40] <Rafael_> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[14:40] <Rafael_> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[14:40] <Rafael_> 192.168.1.11    myplasticare
[14:40] <tremby> how do upgrade to the latest? currently on Hardy and some of its software is a little too old for my current needs
[14:42] <Pici> tremby: If you want to upgrade to the next LTS, you'll need to wait until the end of April. Otherwise you can upgrade to 8.10->9.04->9.10
[14:42] <tremby> need to make a move today, really. it's blocking my work. do i have to go through each step like that?
[14:42] <tremby> would things break if i just pointed it to the 9.10 repos and said dist-upgrade?
[14:43] <jpds> tremby: That's not supported.
[14:43] <Pici> tremby: Its likely.  I definitely wouldn't do that on a production server.
[14:43] <tremby> it's a testing server
[14:43] <Pici> tremby: You can upgrade from one LTS to the next though.  So you will be able to go from 8.04 to 10.04 once its released.
[14:43] <tremby> oh, i see
[14:43] <tremby> hmm, in that case maybe i'll work around my issue, build some stuff from source
[14:44] <Rafael_> hggdh: can you give me some idea on what to do?
[14:44] <tremby> thanks
[14:44] <jaraco_mobile> How do I run a process as a different user? I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 (as found on rackspace-cloud). When I run "su tomcat6 whoami" I get no output. When I run "sudo -u tomcat6 whoami", it reports the username. I want to launch this as a script, so sudo is not appropriate.
[14:45] <tremby> jaraco_mobile: you probably mean su tomcat6 -c whoami
[14:45] <jaraco_mobile> tremby: same result - no output.
[14:46] <jaraco_mobile> BTW, root account is enabled... and I'm running su as root.
[14:46] <tremby> hmm, all i can say is it works for me
[14:47] <tremby> sudo su -; su tremby -c whoami
[14:47] <tremby> gives me "tremby"
[14:47] <jaraco_mobile> odd
[14:48] <jaraco_mobile> I'll try a clean server and if it's still behaving as such, I'll try rackspace support.
[14:54] <jaraco> Okay. I found that su works for a regular user account, but not for the tomcat service account.
[14:54] <hggdh> !pastenbin | Rafael_
[14:54] <jaraco> Whose shell is set to '/bin/false'
[14:55] <tremby> oh there you go. use the shell switch of su
[14:55] <hggdh> !pastebin| Rafael_
[14:55] <jaraco> tremby: thanks for the tip. I'll look into it.
[14:55] <tremby> su tomcat5 -s /bin/sh -c whoami
[14:55] <jaraco> Indeed, that does the trick. Thanks!
[14:56] <tremby> no prob. should have realized you were trying to use a system account...
[14:57] <jaraco> I sure do love rackspace cloud. I was able to stand up a new, clean server and eliminate all other variables in just a few minutes.
[14:59] <jaraco> Is using 'su' the best way to launch a system process under a particular userid, or should I be using something else?
[14:59] <yann2> sudo -u jaraco ls
[15:00] <tremby> it's su or sudo really. or using that user's own crontab i guess
[15:00] <Pici> I usually drop things into the user's crontabs.  Then again, these are accounts that don't belong to particular people that I deal with.
[15:01] <hggdh> Rafael_, IIRC, webmin will by default only allow localhost to connect
[15:01] <tremby> i think it's a bit neater to stick them all in root's crontab. hard to keep track otherwise
[15:02] <Rafael_> hggdh: did i did rigth the pastebin?
[15:03] <hggdh> Rafael_, I guess you did not ;-)   Did you post the link here?
[15:03] <Rafael_> sorry...not let me try
[15:07] <Rafael_> hggdh: i guess is: http://pastebin.com/p0GG7KXd
[15:11] <hggdh> Rafael_, some issues: (1) you have multiple definitions of the mypasticare and mypasSticare
[15:12] <hggdh> Rafael_, (2) lines 5 and 19 are simply plain wrong
[15:12] <hggdh> Rafael_, so, please correct/clean up your /etc/hosts, and then you can try again
[15:13] <Rafael_> hggdh: should i just delete or correct
[15:19] <Rafael_> hggdh: sorry but when i copy and paste something wsa paste not correctly..this is a new pastebin: tkae a look and please give me your feedback:  http://pastebin.com/VmkpeX73
[15:22] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/523148
[15:23] <smoser> kirkland, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/542324
[15:24] <hggdh> Rafael_, lines 2 and 11 conflict
[15:26] <Rafael_> hggdh: Thanks so much for your help as you can see i am a newby and not so smart..just learning...question..so if i have assign on my LAN a static ip address of 192.168.1.11, can i delete line 2 or what is 127.0.1.1
[15:27] <hggdh> Rafael_, yes, you can delete line 2
[15:28] <Rafael_> hggdh: will try..what is the 127.0.1.1?
[15:29] <hggdh> Rafael_, any addresses in the 127/8 range are non-routeable addresses (this is what is usually called the localnet). 127.0.0.1 should usually be set to localhost
[15:49] <_ruben> bah .. pmacct is built without ipv6 support
[15:55] <Rafael_> hggdh: i try and clean it, this is how it looks now http://pastebin.com/74hkyhrm  i reboot ubuntu but still webmin is not working with the hostname
[15:55] <bogeyd6> kk Rafael_
[15:56] <bogeyd6> Rafael_, what do you have in /etc/hosts
[15:58] <Rafael_> hggdh: if i do a ping now i get: 64 bytes from myplasticare (192.168.1.11): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.022 ms
[15:59] <Rafael_> bogeyd6: see http://pastebin.com/74hkyhrm
[16:00] <bogeyd6> and you cant go to http://myplasticare?
[16:00] <RoAkSoAx> ahasenack, ping
[16:01] <ahasenack> RoAkSoAx: hi
[16:01] <ahasenack> RoAkSoAx: hi
[16:01] <RoAkSoAx> ahasenack, hi, may I PM you?
[16:01] <Rafael_> bogeyd6: my original question was:  i need help with Webmin: si coloco https://xxx.xxx.x.xx:10000 i can see webmin, but if i place  https://hostname:10000 nothing..can somebody please help me?
[16:01] <ahasenack> RoAkSoAx: yes
[16:15] <soren> RoAkSoAx: Thanks for pushing the glusterfs update. I really appreciate it.
[16:16] <Rafael_> any help?
[16:49] <djveer> hey guys, I got a ubuntu server  box running MySQL/Apache that the hard drive is in a buggered state in... I tried to use dd on the drive to make an image but even with the noerror option, it still is giving me input/output errors. Is there anyway I can make it run  enough to get a dump of the MySQL database I need?
[16:50] <djveer> This was just a testing box so it's not super important (or I would have made backups) but I would be handy to get the data off
[16:50] <djveer> *it would
[16:50] <djveer> There any way to do a dump of the database from a liveCD?
[16:53] <kirkland> smoser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/400069/
[16:53] <kirkland> smoser: something like that in the header
[16:53] <ttx> kirkland, smoser, mathiaz: how is it going ?
[16:54] <smoser> excellente
[16:54] <kirkland> ttx: we made some progress yesterday; i have pictures of our todo/done stuff from the flipchart
[16:54] <kirkland> ttx: i'll email those to you, if you like
[16:54] <kirkland> ttx: our main blocker right now is that we have a 49KB/s download speed from the hotel where we're working
[16:55] <ttx> kirkland: beh
[17:05] <sherr> djveer: maybe ddrescue?
[17:38] <RoAkSoAx> soren, no prob :)
[17:47] <smoser> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/beta-1/
[17:53] <djveer> sherr: can dd_rescue be ran from a live CD environment?
[17:56] <kirkland> ttx: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/server-papercuts/+bug/545262
[17:56] <ttx> ack
[18:08] <sherr> djveer: I see no reason why not. It's in the repos - have a go. Good luck :-)
[18:20] <ttx> kirkland: approved as papercut, assigned to you :P
[18:20] <djveer> sherr: Thanks! I think i'm going to try freezing the drive for 30 min or so before
[18:21] <djveer> sherr: i've been told people have had good luck doing that
[18:26] <sarthor> Hi, i have ubuntu-server  9.10 installed. squid/dhcp/shorewall 4.4/pppoe-server,  running, i want to put one access point having no security key, that the people can connect, and when they start browsing, so all their browsing redirect to http://192.168.0.100:80, Coz there is my page with detail to get user name and password and use internet,, I am also running pppoe-server,
[18:37] <jdstrand> zul: hey, just hitting the nut upgrade. is it just me or should /etc/nut/ups.conf not be a conffile? I'm getting prompted on upgrade and there is no reasonable default afaict. the same goes for upsd.users, upsmon.conf and nut.conf
[18:38] <zul> jdstrand: hmm....not sure can you open up a bug just in case
[18:38] <kirkland> ttx: thanks
[18:56] <Rafael> hggdh: any other help you can provide me?
[18:58] <Rafael> bogeyd6: Any oither help that you csan provide will be appeciated
[18:59] <bogeyd6> Rafael,
[18:59] <bogeyd6> Rafael, is it sitll the problem of https://hostname doesnt work?
[19:00] <bogeyd6> from the client, not the webmin server
[19:03] <Rafael> bogeyd6: yes if i type https://myplasticare:100000 does not work
[19:03] <bogeyd6> Rafael, which dns server is the client set to use?
[19:04] <Rafael> bogeyd6: just to be sure..how can i check that
[19:05] <bogeyd6> Rafael, on client if windows just type "ipconfig /all" in a commmand windows
[19:05] <bogeyd6> Rafael, if linux just type "cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[19:06] <Rafael> bogeyd6:thanks, let me check on windows client
[19:06] <bogeyd6> k
[19:12] <Rafael> bogeyd6:http://pastebin.com/sV1azZkb
[19:12] <bogeyd6> Rafael, and the dns server 156.154.70.22 is set to resolve http://myplasticare ?
[19:20] <bogeyd6> Rafael, another fix would be to edit the host file of the windows client
[19:27] <ninjix> I'm having a problem with likewise-open not being able to change password for AD account. Anyone experienced with likewise-open?
[19:39] <kirkland> smoser: mathiaz: http://www.southcoastdeli.com/menu.html
[20:44] <shennyg> I am looking into using AWS ELB for my commerce site. Will my site/code/php be able to see the users IP address? I have geolocation on my site and from the research I have done is that under https it doesn't pass the users IP. Is that correct?
[21:23] <smoser> kirkland, bug 541486 is ready to be sponsored... it could be queued with other eucalyptus changes, but i think its ready.
[21:23] <kirkland> bug #541486
[21:23]  * kirkland smacks ubottu 
[21:36] <Rafael> bogeyd6: sorry i have to leave, but i am back. you are saying that i should edit the host file on the windows client?
[21:36] <jaraco> I have a java servlet that I would like to deploy on Ubuntu. I'm able to download the stock apache binaries for tomcat 6.0.20 and deploy the app in that environment. I would prefer to use Apt and the ubuntu tomcat package, but when I do, I get cryptic errors. Can someone suggest how I might track down the differences between the Ubuntu package and the stock tomcat binaries?
[21:37] <jaraco> Sorry, I realize that's not a very specific question.
[21:42] <sherr> jaraco: I guess you could a) look at the version number and b) Go through the changelogs and compare
[22:22] <hggdh> mathiaz: I *did* restart the CC with CLEAN=1 (tried different things, and found this requirement elsewhere)...
[22:22] <mathiaz> hggdh: hm...
[22:22] <hggdh> mathiaz: but, anyway, I am going to do it all again ;-)
[22:23] <mathiaz> hggdh: did you "restart *eucalyptus-cc* CLEAN=1"
[22:23] <mathiaz> hggdh: or restart euclyptus-*cloud* CLEAN=1
[22:23] <hggdh> mathiaz: yessir
[22:23] <mathiaz> hggdh: ?
[22:23] <hggdh> oh
[22:23] <hggdh> *now* I am in doubt
[22:24] <hggdh> I followed the docs
[22:24] <mathiaz> hggdh: eucalyptus-cloud doesn't support CLEAN, eucalyptus-cc does
[22:24] <mathiaz> hggdh: right - I've updated the test cases
[22:24] <hggdh> mathiaz: I will have to do it again, so we will find out :-)
[22:24] <mathiaz> hggdh: right
[22:24] <mathiaz> hggdh: how is the uec test rig doing?
[22:25] <hggdh> mathiaz: did not touch it since Monday
[22:25] <hggdh> mathiaz: can I keep on using it?
[22:25] <mathiaz> hggdh: yes
[22:25] <mathiaz> hggdh: testing beta1 and you getting familiar with the test rig is the most important thing
[22:26] <hggdh> mathiaz: ack
[22:26] <hggdh> mathiaz: will restart the tests, then, from the beginning (still set to use the ISOs
[22:34] <norkakn> I have a server with a load of about 970.  `ps aux` and `lsof` freeze and dont' return anything.  There are lots of runaway defunct ps procs that I cannot kill
[22:34] <norkakn> is there any way to kill things?
[22:34] <norkakn> There are some dmesg things about the raid, but mdadm says everything is fine
[22:35] <norkakn> kernel is 2.6.24-19-server
[22:52] <sherr> norkakn: sounds bad. If you have a console, maybe an "init 1" and try and clean up?
[22:53] <norkakn> it's a mail server, and it is still responsive, and it is 3 hours away from the nearest coworker
[22:54] <norkakn> I'm at a bit of a loss, I haven't had things resistant to -HUP then -9 before