[06:34] <ara> good morning all
[08:06] <ara> mvo, ping
[08:07] <mvo> hey ara
[10:18] <davmor2> morning all
[10:29] <ara> morning davmor2
[12:02] <ara> mvo, do you know how can I install a ppa version of a package which is older than the version in ubuntu?
[12:16] <persia> ara: downgrading isn't guaranteed as safe, but you ought be able to do something like apt-get install ${PACKAGE}=${VERSION} if it appears in your apt-cache.
[12:16] <ara> persia, thanks!
[12:17] <persia> (it's not guaranteed as safe because the older package cannot know about the contents of the maintainer scripts for the newer package, so cannot necessarily reverse their effects properly)
[13:45] <davmor2> Morning fader_ been downloading tracks by the multitude then?
[14:00] <fader_> davmor2: Tried to :)  I even got a few before bug 544596 kicked in
[14:00] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 544596 in rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store (Ubuntu) "Songs not transferred from music store to U1 storage (affects: 3)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/544596
[14:06] <davmor2> fader_: so it's been out less than a day and you decided to break it, why? What did it do to you?
[14:07] <fader_> davmor2: Hey man, QA is supposed to break stuff!
[14:08] <davmor2> Oh r
[14:09] <fader_> Ah s
[14:11] <davmor2> fader_: that would be ah ss
[14:12] <charlie-tca> fader_: Sounds like you are doing a very good job, then?
[14:13] <fader_> charlie-tca: :D  Hey, give me something with the express intent that I break it, and I'll find a way
[14:13] <charlie-tca> and do it very well, too.
[17:56] <davmor2> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2010/03/23/ubuntu-10-4-beta-is-bloody-brilliant/ what more can you say really?
[18:09] <fader_> davmor2: As long as you don't break anything before release we'll be good :)
[18:35] <davmor2> you're the new breaker
[18:35] <davmor2> fader_: ^
[21:18] <ceauke> Hi guys
[21:18] <ceauke> does anyone have a link for how to remove kernels from the grub list?
[21:19] <ceauke> I thought disk janiter removed old kernels but I can still select all from the grub menu. AND, i all works still
[21:24] <sbeattie> ceauke: I don't recall if computer janitor will do it, but you can manually uninstall them.
[21:25] <ceauke> thanks beattie. do I do it with package manager?
[21:25] <sbeattie> yeah
[21:31] <ceauke> cheers, will restart now. hopefully they are gone from grub
[21:35] <ceauke> hi there
[21:35] <ceauke> I removed my previous ubuntu kernels but they're still displayed in the bootloader
[21:36] <ceauke> isn't there a command that I can run to rebuild the grub bootup list?
[21:36] <charlie-tca> sudo update-grub
[21:36] <ceauke> thanks
[21:36] <ceauke> charlie, is there any risk that it will mess up my dual boot with windows?
[21:37] <charlie-tca> sure
[21:37] <ceauke> sold! I'll do it  :-D
[21:37] <charlie-tca> To the best of my knowledg, it could screw up bad
[21:37] <ceauke> the ubuntu install found the XP partition which was intalled first.
[21:38] <ceauke> and that was the alpha...
[21:38] <ceauke> so I don't really want to run a mass update tool if it's not safe.
[21:39] <ceauke> can't i just manually remove some from the 'list'?
[21:40] <sbeattie> hrm, uninstalling the kernels should have run update-grub in the postrm
[21:40] <ceauke> my uninstall was synaptic pkg tool and removing the two kernel files... maybe there's a more formal way to do it?