| newz2000 | MTecknology: I've forwarded your email on to some decision makers and I think we're going to get some good assistance | 14:29 |
|---|---|---|
| newz2000 | and by "think" I mean I have absolute confidence we're going to get some useful response | 14:29 |
| knome | newz2000, hmm. how is the JS? | 14:30 |
| newz2000 | knome: which JS? | 14:30 |
| knome | newz2000, the one with which rime was mentioned | 14:31 |
| * newz2000 looks | 14:31 | |
| knome | okay | 14:31 |
| newz2000 | knome: I don't have a record of this, was it in email or here on IRC? | 14:32 |
| knome | email originally | 14:32 |
| knome | the l10n thing | 14:32 |
| knome | (iirc) | 14:33 |
| knome | omg | 14:33 |
| knome | brb | 14:33 |
| * newz2000 hopes it's not something serious | 14:33 | |
| knome | nope | 14:56 |
| knome | just was in a train and LOADS of people hopped in | 14:56 |
| knome | where's my nail scissors :( | 15:02 |
| knome | anyway, how's the js? | 15:02 |
| newz2000 | knome: I can't find a reference to it, I looked in my email | 15:07 |
| knome | newz2000, it was in the website ml | 15:07 |
| knome | let me find it | 15:07 |
| newz2000 | or tell me his email address and I can pull it up | 15:07 |
| knome | it wasn't him sending email | 15:08 |
| knome | i just told he could do something about it | 15:08 |
| knome | https://lists.canonical.com/archives/ubuntu-website/2010-March/000856.html | 15:08 |
| newz2000 | ah, cjohnston is going to set up a meeting soon to do the next step, but as I understand it now | 15:09 |
| newz2000 | we should come up w/ something simpler by using apache's content negotiation feature | 15:09 |
| knome | meeting, like in irc or...? | 15:10 |
| newz2000 | this will serve a different js file for each language | 15:10 |
| knome | oh, okay | 15:10 |
| newz2000 | yeah, I think on IRC | 15:10 |
| knome | right | 15:10 |
| knome | is somebody on it already? | 15:10 |
| newz2000 | no, I don't think so | 15:10 |
| knome | alright | 15:10 |
| knome | i read some mails on it on the ml | 15:10 |
| knome | do you know if they already know HOW they'd like to decide who gets which file? | 15:11 |
| newz2000 | (here's the link describing it btw: https://lists.canonical.com/archives/ubuntu-website/2010-March/000868.html ) | 15:11 |
| newz2000 | regarding who gets which file, apache will serve the file for their language automatically | 15:11 |
| newz2000 | is that what you mean? | 15:11 |
| knome | yup, pretty much | 15:12 |
| knome | so what needs to be done then? | 15:12 |
| newz2000 | I'm waiting for confirmation from the IS team that they'll support this method | 15:12 |
| * newz2000 should ping them today on the matter | 15:12 | |
| knome | okay. then what? ;) | 15:12 |
| knome | should ping the UX team today myself | 15:12 |
| newz2000 | Then a planning meeting to decide what needs to go into the js file and how it will be translated | 15:13 |
| newz2000 | then do the work | 15:13 |
| knome | the work is? | 15:13 |
| knome | is it something somebody will be able to work on or you need help? | 15:14 |
| newz2000 | I'm going to ask the community to do the work | 15:15 |
| newz2000 | and by "i" I mean cjohnston. :-) He's the project manager this time. | 15:15 |
| knome | okay, if nobody seems to step up, feel free (to tell cjohnston) to ping me so i can ask rime | 15:20 |
| === FFEMTcJ is now known as cjohnstoncell | ||
| cjohnstoncell | newz2000: You talking bad about me? | 15:22 |
| newz2000 | cjohnston: mostly just slandering you | 15:23 |
| cjohnstoncell | I am aware. My phone is going nuts from you pinging me | 15:23 |
| knome | haha :D | 15:23 |
| MTecknology | newz2000: cool | 17:09 |
| newz2000 | MTecknology: You've definitely got some people interested and have asked me how best to collaborate on this. :-) | 17:10 |
| MTecknology | awesome | 17:12 |
| MTecknology | horrible university internet.... | 17:12 |
| MTecknology | I can't even check email :( | 17:12 |
| MTecknology | apparently it has something to do with 10.04..... | 17:22 |
| cjohnston | newz2000: you around boss? | 20:37 |
| newz2000 | si | 20:37 |
| cjohnston | I'm guessing still no updates? | 20:38 |
| cjohnston | what the crap is up with the wiki | 20:38 |
| newz2000 | still no updates but I have a reminder to bug them tomorrow morning | 20:38 |
| newz2000 | (our time) | 20:39 |
| cjohnston | ok | 20:39 |
| cjohnston | im at work tomorrow so ill be around whenever i get around | 20:39 |
| newz2000 | ok | 20:39 |
| cjohnston | newz2000 needs to fix the wiki | 20:39 |
| newz2000 | what's up w/ the wiki? | 20:40 |
| cjohnston | tons of timeouts | 20:40 |
| newz2000 | are you editing? I'm viewing and it's snappy for me | 20:40 |
| cjohnston | trying to view | 20:40 |
| cjohnston | jcastro was complaining about it earlier too | 20:41 |
| newz2000 | must only be affecting those in eastern time zone | 20:41 |
| newz2000 | when you get a timeout error do you see an error message from a proxy server? | 20:42 |
| cjohnston | umm | 20:43 |
| cjohnston | have not payed that much attention | 20:43 |
| newz2000 | if you do, tell me the name of the proxy server and I'll look into it | 20:43 |
| cjohnston | ok | 20:43 |
| newz2000 | it maybe that we're running more than one currently and one is flaky | 20:43 |
| cjohnston | newz2000: http://paste.ubuntu.com/400169/ | 20:45 |
| newz2000 | sounds frustrated | 20:46 |
| newz2000 | :-) | 20:46 |
| jpds | cjohnston: The main reason it's so slow is because it has a HUGE user database. | 20:57 |
| * cjohnston thinks newz2000 needs to write a wiki for ubuntu's use that is faster :-P | 20:58 | |
| newz2000 | yeah, it'll be done in 2015 | 20:59 |
| newz2000 | Moin is a bit of a dog | 20:59 |
| newz2000 | it really only has about one benefit, it's written in python | 20:59 |
| newz2000 | theming stinks, performance is not super, installation is a pain in the butt | 21:00 |
| jpds | Well, even you save a page, by design, it stats EVERY SINGLE users data files to check if that user is subscribed to that page. | 21:00 |
| cjohnston | is there something better? | 21:00 |
| jpds | s/even/when/ | 21:01 |
| newz2000 | jpds: yeah, not good | 21:01 |
| newz2000 | cjohnston: mediawiki is good but we don't like php | 21:01 |
| cjohnston | seems like there would be a better way to find or save subscribed users | 21:02 |
| newz2000 | cjohnston: yeah | 21:02 |
| newz2000 | I spent nearly 5 years writing a commercial CMS before coming to Canonical, and a strategy i used | 21:03 |
| newz2000 | pages should be optimized for viewing | 21:03 |
| newz2000 | fundamentally, that means things that are done repeatedly should be optimized | 21:03 |
| newz2000 | so when a person subscribes to a page an index should be updated | 21:04 |
| cjohnston | ya | 21:04 |
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