[14:29] MTecknology: I've forwarded your email on to some decision makers and I think we're going to get some good assistance [14:29] and by "think" I mean I have absolute confidence we're going to get some useful response [14:30] newz2000, hmm. how is the JS? [14:30] knome: which JS? [14:31] newz2000, the one with which rime was mentioned [14:31] * newz2000 looks [14:31] okay [14:32] knome: I don't have a record of this, was it in email or here on IRC? [14:32] email originally [14:32] the l10n thing [14:33] (iirc) [14:33] omg [14:33] brb [14:33] * newz2000 hopes it's not something serious [14:56] nope [14:56] just was in a train and LOADS of people hopped in [15:02] where's my nail scissors :( [15:02] anyway, how's the js? [15:07] knome: I can't find a reference to it, I looked in my email [15:07] newz2000, it was in the website ml [15:07] let me find it [15:07] or tell me his email address and I can pull it up [15:08] it wasn't him sending email [15:08] i just told he could do something about it [15:08] https://lists.canonical.com/archives/ubuntu-website/2010-March/000856.html [15:09] ah, cjohnston is going to set up a meeting soon to do the next step, but as I understand it now [15:09] we should come up w/ something simpler by using apache's content negotiation feature [15:10] meeting, like in irc or...? [15:10] this will serve a different js file for each language [15:10] oh, okay [15:10] yeah, I think on IRC [15:10] right [15:10] is somebody on it already? [15:10] no, I don't think so [15:10] alright [15:10] i read some mails on it on the ml [15:11] do you know if they already know HOW they'd like to decide who gets which file? [15:11] (here's the link describing it btw: https://lists.canonical.com/archives/ubuntu-website/2010-March/000868.html ) [15:11] regarding who gets which file, apache will serve the file for their language automatically [15:11] is that what you mean? [15:12] yup, pretty much [15:12] so what needs to be done then? [15:12] I'm waiting for confirmation from the IS team that they'll support this method [15:12] * newz2000 should ping them today on the matter [15:12] okay. then what? ;) [15:12] should ping the UX team today myself [15:13] Then a planning meeting to decide what needs to go into the js file and how it will be translated [15:13] then do the work [15:13] the work is? [15:14] is it something somebody will be able to work on or you need help? [15:15] I'm going to ask the community to do the work [15:15] and by "i" I mean cjohnston. :-) He's the project manager this time. [15:20] okay, if nobody seems to step up, feel free (to tell cjohnston) to ping me so i can ask rime === FFEMTcJ is now known as cjohnstoncell [15:22] newz2000: You talking bad about me? [15:23] cjohnston: mostly just slandering you [15:23] I am aware. My phone is going nuts from you pinging me [15:23] haha :D [17:09] newz2000: cool [17:10] MTecknology: You've definitely got some people interested and have asked me how best to collaborate on this. :-) [17:12] awesome [17:12] horrible university internet.... [17:12] I can't even check email :( [17:22] apparently it has something to do with 10.04..... [20:37] newz2000: you around boss? [20:37] si [20:38] I'm guessing still no updates? [20:38] what the crap is up with the wiki [20:38] still no updates but I have a reminder to bug them tomorrow morning [20:39] (our time) [20:39] ok [20:39] im at work tomorrow so ill be around whenever i get around [20:39] ok [20:39] newz2000 needs to fix the wiki [20:40] what's up w/ the wiki? [20:40] tons of timeouts [20:40] are you editing? I'm viewing and it's snappy for me [20:40] trying to view [20:41] jcastro was complaining about it earlier too [20:41] must only be affecting those in eastern time zone [20:42] when you get a timeout error do you see an error message from a proxy server? [20:43] umm [20:43] have not payed that much attention [20:43] if you do, tell me the name of the proxy server and I'll look into it [20:43] ok [20:43] it maybe that we're running more than one currently and one is flaky [20:45] newz2000: http://paste.ubuntu.com/400169/ [20:46] sounds frustrated [20:46] :-) [20:57] cjohnston: The main reason it's so slow is because it has a HUGE user database. [20:58] * cjohnston thinks newz2000 needs to write a wiki for ubuntu's use that is faster :-P [20:59] yeah, it'll be done in 2015 [20:59] Moin is a bit of a dog [20:59] it really only has about one benefit, it's written in python [21:00] theming stinks, performance is not super, installation is a pain in the butt [21:00] Well, even you save a page, by design, it stats EVERY SINGLE users data files to check if that user is subscribed to that page. [21:00] is there something better? [21:01] s/even/when/ [21:01] jpds: yeah, not good [21:01] cjohnston: mediawiki is good but we don't like php [21:02] seems like there would be a better way to find or save subscribed users [21:02] cjohnston: yeah [21:03] I spent nearly 5 years writing a commercial CMS before coming to Canonical, and a strategy i used [21:03] pages should be optimized for viewing [21:03] fundamentally, that means things that are done repeatedly should be optimized [21:04] so when a person subscribes to a page an index should be updated [21:04] ya