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| bac | #startmeeting | 14:02 |
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| MootBot | Meeting started at 09:02. The chair is bac. | 14:02 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 14:02 |
| bac | sorry i'm late | 14:02 |
| bac | welcome to the LP Reviewers meeting. who is here today? | 14:02 |
| gary_poster | me! me! me! | 14:02 |
| bac | hi gary_poster! | 14:02 |
| gary_poster | hi :-) | 14:02 |
| gary_poster | leonardr, mars, salgado reviewer's mtg | 14:03 |
| salgado | me | 14:03 |
| leonardr | me | 14:03 |
| mars | me | 14:03 |
| EdwinGrubbs | Me | 14:03 |
| deryck | me | 14:03 |
| * gmb , allenap and abel are sprinting | 14:03 | |
| bac | gmb: thanks | 14:03 |
| bac | danilos, bigjools: ping | 14:03 |
| bac | sinzui: ping | 14:04 |
| sinzui | me | 14:04 |
| danilos | bac, sorry, sprinting | 14:04 |
| bac | danilos: ok | 14:04 |
| danilos | (along with the rest of translations team) | 14:04 |
| bac | abentley: ping | 14:05 |
| abentley | me | 14:05 |
| bac | flacoste: hi | 14:05 |
| bac | [topic] agenda | 14:05 |
| MootBot | New Topic: agenda | 14:05 |
| bac | * Roll call | 14:05 |
| bac | * Agenda | 14:05 |
| bac | * Outstanding actions | 14:05 |
| bac | * New topics | 14:05 |
| bac | * Peanut gallery | 14:05 |
| flacoste | hi bac | 14:05 |
| bac | sorry for the confusion over the time. going forward it is at 1400UTC and i believe is correct on our google calendar | 14:06 |
| bac | [topic] outstanding actions | 14:06 |
| MootBot | New Topic: outstanding actions | 14:06 |
| bac | [topic] * rockstar to update bugs to reflect new naming convention and will update the style guide | 14:06 |
| MootBot | New Topic: * rockstar to update bugs to reflect new naming convention and will update the style guide | 14:06 |
| bac | is rockstar here? | 14:07 |
| bac | i'll check with him in the ASIAPAC meeting | 14:07 |
| bac | [topic] * bac to update wiki re: interim status of community reviewers and committers | 14:07 |
| MootBot | New Topic: * bac to update wiki re: interim status of community reviewers and committers | 14:07 |
| bac | i have not done this. :( | 14:07 |
| bac | i did talk to andrewsinclair yesterday but he deferred any opinion to amanda | 14:07 |
| bac | i've been trying to talk to her on IRC but haven't been successful | 14:08 |
| bac | so, i'll keep this item around | 14:08 |
| bac | and, for some very welcome news | 14:08 |
| bac | [topic] * leonardr to create an example for automated lplib tests in the launchpad tree. (revisit 24-Mar). | 14:08 |
| MootBot | New Topic: * leonardr to create an example for automated lplib tests in the launchpad tree. (revisit 24-Mar). | 14:08 |
| leonardr | hello | 14:09 |
| leonardr | i just landed the branch that demonstrates this | 14:09 |
| leonardr | take a look in lib/canonical/launchpad/pagetests/webservice/launchpadlib.txt | 14:09 |
| bigjools | me | 14:09 |
| leonardr | there's a Launchpad object available as 'launchpad' | 14:09 |
| leonardr | so you can just do this: | 14:10 |
| leonardr | >>> print launchpad.me.name | 14:10 |
| leonardr | salgado | 14:10 |
| bac | leonardr: is it easy to get a non-salgado person or an anonymous one? | 14:10 |
| leonardr | bac: you'd have to set it up in pages.py, similar to anon_browser and anon_webservice | 14:11 |
| leonardr | anonymous access would be easy. i don't know about non-salgado access, because i don't know if there are oauth credentials set up for non-salgado users | 14:11 |
| noodles775 | me | 14:11 |
| bac | ok. i think it's be useful, especially since we have had problems getting some collections for anonymous access | 14:11 |
| leonardr | yeah, anonymous is easy | 14:12 |
| bac | thanks a lot leonardr for setting this up. it'll help close a big gap in our testing. | 14:12 |
| leonardr | sure | 14:13 |
| sinzui | I would like to move webservice/* tests out of stories. but I do not know where to. | 14:13 |
| bigjools | I fear for the performance but that's a separate topic for another day | 14:13 |
| * sinzui wonders is interfaces/tests is better, or api/tests | 14:14 | |
| bac | we have no new items on the agenda | 14:15 |
| bac | [topic] peanuts | 14:15 |
| MootBot | New Topic: peanuts | 14:15 |
| bac | any one have a discussion topic? | 14:15 |
| bac | going once... | 14:16 |
| bac | twice... | 14:16 |
| bac | oh, i do! | 14:16 |
| bac | thanks to abentley for the reminder about +activereviews. please do your part to land or change the status of those festering branches. | 14:16 |
| noodles775 | heh | 14:16 |
| bac | thanks for coming everyone. have a good day. | 14:17 |
| bac | #endmeeting | 14:17 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 09:17. | 14:17 |
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| bac | thumper, mwhudson, rockstar : ping | 21:31 |
| thumper | hi | 21:31 |
| bac | hey y'all around for a quick meeting? | 21:31 |
| mwhudson | bac: hi | 21:32 |
| thumper | yep | 21:32 |
| bac | mwhudson: you'll be please i found a 'flood control' setting on my irc client that was not set up right. hope to not repeat the flooding. | 21:32 |
| bac | the big news from today's AMEU meeting came from leonard | 21:33 |
| bac | he just landed a branch that has an example of how to write launchpadlib tests that get run in our test suite | 21:33 |
| bac | that's something we've been needing for a good long time | 21:33 |
| mwhudson | ah cool | 21:34 |
| bac | "take a look in lib/canonical/launchpad/pagetests/webservice/launchpadlib.txt" | 21:34 |
| bac | there is a 'launchpad' object that is connected as salgado | 21:34 |
| thumper | that location makes me sad | 21:35 |
| * rockstar i here | 21:35 | |
| * thumper wishes for lp/services/webservice/doc or something | 21:35 | |
| bac | thumper: yeah, sinzui was asking for a better place to put webservice tests | 21:35 |
| bac | hi rockstar | 21:35 |
| rockstar | thumper, the type of test is what makes me sad | 21:36 |
| bac | leonard said it would be trivial to have a lp object for anonymous testing. he didn't commit to doing it right away so it's open. | 21:36 |
| bac | and bigjools is sad that the tests will probably be slow | 21:36 |
| thumper | we'll make sure it works in unit tests well :) | 21:36 |
| bac | we sure are a gloomy lot | 21:36 |
| rockstar | thumper, yes, yes we will. | 21:36 |
| rockstar | bac, :) | 21:36 |
| bac | hey rockstar you have an outstanding action item...the details of which i cannot remember. do you? | 21:37 |
| rockstar | bac, yes, and they are done. | 21:37 |
| thumper | this is what makes me more sad: "pre-authenticated with salgado's permissions" | 21:37 |
| thumper | why do we insist on continuing with sample data tests? | 21:37 |
| bac | cool, rockstar. remind us of what you did | 21:37 |
| rockstar | bac, basically, I needed to change the Javascript coding standards for the new module names. | 21:37 |
| mwhudson | particularly given that salgado is an admin in the sample data!! | 21:37 |
| bac | ah, right. did you file a bunch of bugs? | 21:38 |
| thumper | :(( | 21:38 |
| rockstar | ^^ sad and fat? | 21:38 |
| thumper | rockstar: just really sad | 21:38 |
| bac | thumper would you like to voice your sadness on the ML? | 21:38 |
| thumper | sure | 21:39 |
| rockstar | bac, also, launchpad-ui-reviewers is a good team to use to remind yourself to go find a ui reviewer. | 21:39 |
| bac | it's not ideal but i'm glad we've gotten something we can automate | 21:39 |
| rockstar | No one on the team is going to just pick up the requested review, so it's solely up to the reviewee to go find a specific person on the team. | 21:39 |
| bac | ok | 21:40 |
| rockstar | bac, can I suggest one thing? | 21:40 |
| bac | rockstar: so it's only nominally better than looking at a wiki page | 21:40 |
| bac | sure | 21:40 |
| rockstar | bac, so, I have found that the general attitude of the on call reviewer has kinda started feeling like review lackey recently. | 21:41 |
| rockstar | People just come into #launchpad-reviews, pop themselves on the queue, and then disappear. | 21:41 |
| bac | rockstar: well, if you don't agree to it beforehand they are supposed to stick around | 21:42 |
| bac | and you're free to drop their review if they aren't going to be around for interaction | 21:42 |
| rockstar | I think a nice reminder that it's the submitter's responsibility to get a review and not the reviewer's job to just figure it out. | 21:42 |
| bac | it's a good thing to bring up | 21:42 |
| rockstar | bac, yes, I know that. Community contributions tend to have this issue more than anyone else, but I think a gentle reminder might be helpful. | 21:43 |
| bac | ok | 21:43 |
| bac | rockstar: i'll send out an email to lp-dev | 21:43 |
| rockstar | Last week I came into my review day and saw that 9 people were on a queue that had no OCR. | 21:43 |
| bac | rockstar: and i've found people in the queue with no MP in +activereviews | 21:44 |
| bac | it's anarchy! | 21:44 |
| rockstar | bac, yeah, it's gotten a little messy. Just a reminder of the social contracts would be helpful. | 21:44 |
| bac | good idea. | 21:44 |
| bac | any other topics? | 21:45 |
| bac | ok, thanks for coming. see you next week. | 21:45 |
| thumper | nope | 21:45 |
| thumper | thanks bac | 21:45 |
| rockstar | Thanks bac! | 21:45 |
| bac | hey thumper, i saw your comment about squeezeserver | 21:45 |
| bac | is it currently not supported in lucid? | 21:46 |
| thumper | bac, it has been renamed | 21:46 |
| thumper | squeezeboxserver | 21:46 |
| bac | so it's just an irritant? | 21:46 |
| thumper | for now | 21:46 |
| thumper | upgrade still in progress | 21:46 |
| thumper | downloading 1345 of 1749 | 21:47 |
| bac | cool. mine is on a gutsy server so i won't be upgrading it until lucid is released | 21:47 |
| * thumper nods | 21:47 | |
| bac | hard to believe it's time for another LTS | 21:47 |
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| wgrant | bac: Gutsy? Gutsy has been unsupported for a year. Your server is horribly insecure. | 23:20 |
| maxb | It could be worse.... there's a server running edgy at my office :-( | 23:45 |
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