=== Steelsteve_EATS is now known as Steelsteve [00:38] Goodbye [01:10] Dual installed Ubuntu 9.10 and Linux Mint 8 to new External HDD and having problems with GRUB not wanting to load Mint, any suggestions? [01:15] Dual installed Ubuntu 9.10 and Linux Mint 8 to new External HDD and having problems with GRUB not wanting to load Mint, any suggestions? [01:19] Hmm. [01:22] something new Hellow? [01:26] An issue you've not come across? [01:27] I've never much liked booting from external devices. [01:27] ok [01:28] Well GRUB2 comes up with the standard Ubuntu 9.10, Recovery Mode and Mem Test, with Linux Mint 8 Main Edition Helena Shown at bottom of GRUB Menu but will not allow me to boot to it [01:28] I select it and it gives me an error that no such device exists [01:28] then when I try to select Ubuntu , it gives me the same error [01:29] go to a shell prompt for GRUB, type exit and it allows me to boot Ubuntu [01:29] brb [01:30] Just something I'm toying with [01:43] * ZachK_ nods to the tram [01:43] *team I mean [01:44] greetings [01:44] paultag: ping [01:44] Hey DarkwingDuck [01:45] how is life? [01:45] DarkwingDuck: Ok....and you? [01:45] good... busy [01:46] DarkwingDuck: Ah...one minute and I'll look at your page [01:46] thanks [01:46] I'm slowing bulding content... just working with design. [01:47] hey DarkwingDuck , ZachK_ [01:47] hey mohi1 [01:47] DarkwingDuck, sup? [01:47] i have to leave now... [01:47] trying to get the kubuntu docs finished [01:48] cool and you are fully fit now?? [01:48] DarkwingDuck, ^ [01:49] * ZachK_ annhilates mohi1 [01:49] ZachK_, i ll get back later... [01:50] Yup. Just transfered to a good job in Mississippi [01:50] Actually, I'll be starting a LoCo out here. [01:50] nice to hear :) [01:50] anyways bye guys === mohi1 is now known as mohi_away [02:04] Ok, back for some more help with my dual boot Ubuntu 9.10 and Linux Mint 8 from new USB HDD [02:06] Ok..... [02:07] I installed them both Ubuntu first, then Linux Mint 8, opting to not use the Linux Mint 8 bootloader and just let Ubuntu handle it [02:07] When I reboot and grub screen comes up it will not let me boot in to any of them [02:08] I enter "c" for command line which takes me to a grub shell and I can type exit and it will go to the grub menu again and allow me to boot in to Ubuntu [02:08] Hmmm..... [02:09] I have also noticed through the disk utility that Linux Mint 8 has a very strange mount point to it [02:10] file:///media/6841577c-eb9a-495c-bc0c-acf40df094f7 [02:11] preceded by /dev/sda6 [02:12] or I assume it to be strange, I'm a noob here [02:14] So I'm wondering if there is a workaround for this === celthunder is now known as Guest35239 [03:20] Akos: please pm me [03:20] when you have time that is [03:38] wb celthundar [03:38] hey [03:38] sup [03:38] not much [03:39] researching possible pc to buy....figuring out one to get that will work with linux [03:39] ZachK_: that list is actually quite large [03:39] :P [03:40] I would almost say the list that WONT work is quite small [03:40] DarkwingDuck: pm me with list then? [03:40] hi ZachK_ [03:40] ZachK_, have you seen the HCL? [03:40] ZachK_, that's your list [03:40] ah hi paultag [03:40] hcl... [03:41] ZachK_, hardware compatibility list [03:41] ptag...link? [03:41] http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/ [03:41] ZachK_, I don't have one. Google around, they are from everyone. Fredora, Ubuntu, etc [03:41] ZachK_: ^^^^ [03:41] ZachK_, it's the kernel not a distro, so each distro may only have a small part of the whole list [03:43] ZachK_: se if that works for ya [03:43] thanks DarkwingDuck...looking now === celthundar is now known as celthunder [04:04] celthunder: you need voice man [04:04] eh [04:04] lol [04:05] oh [04:05] * celthunder shrugs [04:05] apparently i'm not cool enough :) [04:05] how's the comp process going? [04:07] celthunder: goin... [04:08] so you'll have one at your door...tommorrow? [04:08] celthunder: hah....i wish [04:11] hey PabloRubianes [04:11] hey ZachK_ [04:57] welcome Ten-Eight [05:00] Thank you ZachK [05:03] Ten-Eight: and how are you today? [05:04] ZachK: doing well and yourself? [05:04] pretty much the same [05:04] nothing happening in here this evening/morning? [05:05] well depends on what the "happening" is [05:05] haven't seen any convo scrolling by....pretty quiet. [05:06] ah.. [05:06] nobody needs help atm [05:06] guess so ;) [05:07] i needs help [05:08] if 373 people are attacking you with swords anda ll you have as a weapon is a stick and a gumball HOW DO YOU WIN [05:08] I can chew gum and run at the same time ;) to heck with the stick! [05:10] lol [05:13] hey paultag [05:14] heyo [05:18] hey ptag....what's been up with you? [05:27] Hello. [05:27] hey tenach [05:27] sorry ZachK_, I don't see anything without my name in it [05:27] paultag: it's cool [05:27] ZachK_, Nothing. Where have you been spending your time, you delinquent? [05:28] My sister-in-law wants me to put Ubuntu on her machine without getting rid of Windows 7 if possible. Does anyone know of a good way to go about this? I have only dual booted with XP. [05:28] tenach: one sec...will grab info [05:28] ZachK_, Thanks. [05:28] I'm googling, but for some reason tonight my Googliness doesn't seem to be working. :/ [05:30] paultag: no pc means no access to ubuntu......finally got a way to do this via my ipod but it's tough.... [05:30] aye. [05:30] paultag: and work...lot of that...question...gonna vote for me? [05:30] ZachK_, for what? [05:31] paultag: the fg lead....(wiki) [05:31] ZachK_, you are the only candidate. [05:31] paultag: yeah...people still gotta vote [05:32] doesn't mean i automatically get it... [05:32] ZachK_, you are not going to not get it [05:32] ZachK_, yeah it does. We can't have a FG without a Lead [05:32] paultag: ah...maybe.... [05:32] true though paultag [05:32] ZachK_, but if you are super idle ( like you are / were ) I'll have to re-examine the structure of that focus group [05:34] paultag: i'm not idle anymore...and i was gone due to no access [05:35] welcome nevets04 [05:35] Hello nevets04 [05:35] Hello [07:15] welcome MadameTock and hey hobgoblin and talsemgeest [07:16] Heya ZachK_ :) [07:16] Hello, ZachK_! [07:17] talsemgeest: how's it goin buddy? [07:17] Oh hello there, MadameTock [07:17] MadameTock: and how are you madam? [07:17] Oooh hello, tenach. [07:17] Quite fine, as a matter of fact. [07:17] ZachK_: Just testing out the lovely new 10.04 beta :) [07:17] MadameTock: that's good.. [07:17] talsemgeest: let's move to either -team or ##switch2nix... [07:18] hi there ZachK_ [07:31] hobgoblin: how's things? [07:32] ZachK_: pretty good ty [07:32] hobgoblin: cool... [07:32] hobgoblin: sad that you left man.... [07:34] ZachK_: it was not the place that I joined - nuff said about that now I think :) [07:34] hobgoblin: true....true [07:36] I still come here though to help when I can [07:37] hobgoblin: glad to hear it.. [07:38] * ZachK_ offers help....anyone want help?......ah well [07:40] welcome mathay [07:43] see what you did there ... [07:44] I have in house help- But I hang around to pick things up on occasion :D [07:44] * ZachK_ looks around...mouths, "Who me? Wasn't me I swear!" [07:58] Haha. [07:58] hhaa [08:11] ZachK_: it won't be long and it will be too busy in here [08:11] meaning? [08:12] april release [08:12] ah... [08:12] got ya === hobgoblin is now known as hobgoblin|afk [08:23] anyone here? [09:02] Hello [09:05] Hey there Silver_Fox_ :) [09:05] Hello talsemgeest [09:05] How are you ? [09:05] Silver_Fox_: Good, just installed 10.04 beta on my laptop :) [09:05] Hows things with you Silver_Fox_? [09:06] How is the beta going for you? The alphas were fun ;) [09:06] I am okay talsemgeest , just reviewing beginners "team" emails [09:06] Silver_Fox_: Yup, Ive put in all my votes :) [09:07] Silver_Fox_: All looking very slick, but the button changes will take a bit of getting used too [09:07] Erm, *to [09:07] Oh no not the votes. Not really concerned about that. [09:07] The comment on activity here. [09:09] Silver_Fox_: Yup, I have been keeping an eye on that one [09:12] talsemgeest: as have i... [09:15] welcome Phrea and pedro3005 [09:16] hey ZachK_ [09:16] pedro3005: how are ya? [09:16] ZachK_, good, getting ready for school [09:16] pedro3005: ah....nice [09:16] * ZachK_ is done with school..hehehe [09:18] coool [09:20] ZachK_, so how are you? [09:21] pedro3005: ok...looking for a good pc to buy that WILL work with my 'buntu [09:21] ZachK_, isn't too hard, is it? [09:21] pedro3005: trying not to be [09:22] want a dell for sure...or at the very least Asus or HP [09:24] ZachK_, mine is just various parts assembled [09:25] works good [09:25] +1 on that, you generallly get better performance and value for money with a pc you build yourself [09:26] make sure you get nvidia for graphics card and you're cool [09:26] i have geforce 8800 and it works very well, recommended [09:28] Hi SeVIIeN :) [09:29] Hellow talsemgeest [09:30] Goodmorning everyone :) [09:30] hello AcidBanger, SeVIIeN [09:30] and talsemgeest [09:30] Hehe, hey pedro3005 and AcidBanger :) [09:31] I have a simple question I think, I need to configure an Ethernet port using the terminal how do I do that ??? [09:31] hi pedro3005 [09:31] nice friendly channel [09:31] plus I'm looking for some help, but I need to find the script I was working on first :P [09:32] AcidBanger: How do you need to configure it? (I.E. what do you want to do?) [09:32] I am setting up a ubuntu server so I need to give it a static IP in it's own range since it is gonna broadcast DHCP... [09:33] SeVIIeN, oh bash scripting is not with me :/ need to learn more about it.. currently learning C++ [09:33] AcidBanger, you'd use ifconfig, /methinks [09:34] AcidBanger: Ok, first you need to open up /etc/network/interfaces (something like sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces) [09:34] SeVIIeN, and getting beat up by it quite nicely, if you know what I mean ;) [09:34] ok I did that :) [09:35] AcidBanger: Ok, now you need to change one of the lines that has "dhcp" to "static" [09:35] pedro3005, lol, I can imagine, but it's well worth it [09:35] I don't see DHCP anywhere :s [09:35] SeVIIeN, you know it? [09:36] pedro3005, oh no way [09:36] There us no cable in the interface is it possible to even configure it then ? [09:36] AcidBanger: Should be a line something like this: "iface eth0 inet dhcp" [09:36] bash is bashing me up [09:36] SeVIIeN, python is nice and easy [09:37] in fact, I would change the name of the sudo command [09:37] AcidBanger: So the file is empty? [09:37] auto lo [09:37] iface lo inet loopback [09:37] some expletive would be nice [09:37] Only 2 things I see [09:38] AcidBanger: Ok, create a new line saying "iface eth0 inet static" [09:38] AcidBanger: Then on a line under that type "address SeVIIeN, geirha is your bash person [09:38] Something like "address 192.168.1.4" [09:38] I think in my case I should configure eth1 since eth0 is gonna be my internet connection [09:39] AcidBanger: Ok, that sounds good [09:39] This is what I got so far [09:39] auto lo [09:39] iface lo inet loopback [09:39] iface eth1 inet static [09:39] adress 192.168.1.254 [09:40] AcidBanger: Ok, next line should be "netmask " [09:40] Something like "netmask 255.255.255.0" [09:40] Then "network 192.168.1.0" [09:41] "Broadcast 192.168.1.255" [09:41] "gateway 192.168.1.1" [09:41] Substituting in your own values of course :) [09:42] Since it is a server should the gateway be the same as IP adress ? [09:43] AcidBanger: Hmm, probably. You may even be able to leave that line out entirely [09:43] ok thank you :) [09:44] AcidBanger: Anything else? I need to go sleep :) [09:44] Next step is setting up a DHCP server but I guess I will read some more documentation :) [09:45] AcidBanger: Yeah, I have never been able to get my dhcp server running so I cant be of much help there :) [09:45] Ok then, night all :) [09:45] This so far is great ! [09:45] Ty nn :) [09:47] AcidBanger, hm, maybe http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-and-configure-dhcp-server-in-ubuntu-server.html ? [09:47] Thanks Pedro gonna look into that I will let you know how it is going :) [09:48] AcidBanger, and I am going to school :P [09:48] good bye [09:48] Bye bye [09:48] Have fun at school :) [09:49] * ZachK_ appears from cloud and shadow....hovers.... [09:50] * Silver_Fox_ kicks [09:55] * ZachK_ monkeyhammers Silver_Fox_ [09:56] ZachK_, If you wish to play please go to the team channel, not here in support. [10:47] Hello! Can someone answer another of my newbie questions about installing Opera please? I am running ubuntu 9.10 on PS3. I have downloaded a file " [10:47] opera-10.10-4742.gcc4-shared-qt3.ppc [10:47] What seems to be the problem benny1 :) [10:48] oops sorry... anyway I have downloaded this and have no clue how to go about installing the opera browser, this just seems to be a folder rather than anything else. not sure what im doing wrong here... [10:49] Did you not download the .deb from here? http://www.opera.com/download/ [10:49] yes [10:49] i think I went for the debian version for power pc. as I didnt see a Ubuntu option [10:51] I'm probably approaching this all wrong, I was expecting something to open in synaptic or the software manager as in an installation executable. I've only installed software this way before! [10:52] The deb isn't listed? http://www.opera.com/browser/download/?custom=yes [10:53] Is opera listed in the software center? Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center [10:53] * Silver_Fox_ isn't on Ubuntu at the moment so can't check ;) [10:54] when I go to the website opera/download/ it has a few options but doesnt mention Ubuntu, It seems to default to CentOS but i'm assusming its aplphabetised... [10:55] the second link just appears to give me just a list of older browser versions. I just chose debian, and download from opera.com/download/ [10:57] In the software centre I can't find anything for Opera, or Google Chrome. I want to basically have the fastest lightest browser as the PS3's resources are somewhat limited at the moment, and I heard that Opera would be best fit for my need. [10:58] Chrome and Opera aren't in the Ubuntu repositories. [10:58] Morning Hellow :) [10:58] Good morning Silver_Fox_ :) [10:58] Hello, Hellow [10:59] Hellow: Is it possible to install anyway? [10:59] I would lean towards Opera, since Chrome uses one process per tab and can demolish your RAM with ease. [11:00] From what I can tell, Opera is in the Canonical partner repositories. [11:00] System -> Administration -> Software Sources [11:00] Third-party software tab [11:00] I will go for that one then Okay I will open that window now [11:00] Check anything that has "archive.canonical.com" in it. [11:02] Is this a similar thing to editing the repos in YDL? i screwed that one up! [11:02] It's hard to screw up checking boxes :). [11:02] Doing it manually is where most people mess up. [11:02] Okay, on the first tab "Ubuntu oftware" I have everything checked except Source Code. I don't expect I'll need that. [11:03] Under other software nothing is checked, yet, Cd ROM with ... jaunty jackalope is available but not checked [11:03] Other software was the tab I meant. [11:04] Check the two lines that have "archive.canonical.com" in them. [11:04] Including "Source code"? [11:04] Yes. [11:05] Whilst I'm here on this tab is there anything else i should configure I may need in the future or will that cover most things as I assume this is going to point Ubuntu to the right place to "get" software from [11:06] Unless you need to add custom repositories, you should be fine. [11:06] Okay, it's now asking me to connect to the internet as the info about these ones is outdated... [11:07] Let it. [11:07] It has to update it's package database. [11:07] Ive clicked Okay, Does this update Synaptic package manger, Ubuntu software centre or both? [11:08] Technical answer: Synaptic package manager is just a frontend to a tool called "aptitude" - as is the Ubuntu Software Center, and the apt-get terminal program. [11:09] It updates aptitude's package database. [11:09] Ahh I get it. thanks hopefully i'll know better for next time now... [11:11] okay I think that process has completed so should I be able to add opera from the software centre now? [11:11] Yes. [11:13] Hmm I think I did something wrong I don't see Opera, not under internet anyway... [11:13] Hmm... [11:13] Silver_Fox_: Poke. [11:13] Yes [11:13] Silver_Fox_: Could you take over here? I'm about to be forced to leave for school. [11:13] Sure [11:13] Thanks. [11:14] Pleasure [11:14] Hellow: Thanks for the Help!!! [11:14] benny1: No problem. Sorry I couldn't solve your problem. [11:14] hey all [11:15] hello Thraul [11:15] Hellow: I think even though i'm not quite there yet, I still know more than i did before and better equipped to help myself for the future very useful! [11:15] Hmm , benny1 : open a terminal: [11:15] Run this command: deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free [11:15] I think this question might be a bit above beginner but i'll ask just the same, anyone here have any experience with remastering a ubuntu desktop live cd? [11:15] Including the "deb" at the begging? [11:15] I would also have a look here benny1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser [11:16] Yes benny1 , we are going to install via repository [11:17] It returned deb : Command not found [11:17] Oh my, sorry, [11:17] Silver_Fox_, I believe the command you want to run is: sudo echo "deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list [11:17] then run and sudo apt-get update [11:17] Yes. That right Thraul :) [11:17] Yes [11:18] Thraul: thanks [11:18] With quotes [11:18] yes [11:19] is there a space between /opera/ and stable ? screens a little hard to see there. [11:19] yeah [11:19] just copy and paste should work ;) [11:20] I dont have permission somehow.. [11:20] bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied [11:20] hmmm [11:22] sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list [11:23] Silver_Fox_: I have that file open now. large text file, :-D [11:23] All you need do is add the "deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free" to the end [11:24] I am also sorry about telling you to run that command in terminal, it just slipped my mind. :) [11:25] add it with out the quotes to the bottom of the file on a new line [11:25] save and exit file [11:25] go back to terminal and run: sudo apt-get update [11:25] Then run check for updates [11:25] :) [11:25] don't apologise you are already helping me plenty I would be still trying to run a folder if it wanst for the pople here! [11:26] Okay thats been saved [11:26] Yes, but its a silly mistake I made ;) I am more annoyed at myself than anything :D [11:26] Oooh it seems busy now [11:26] Cool [11:27] It gave an error right at the end.. [11:27] whats the error? [11:27] Do you have the error? [11:27] Get: 3 http://deb.opera.com stable/non-free Packages [859B] [11:27] Fetched 2,115B in 1s (1,770B/s) [11:27] Reading package lists... Done [11:27] W: GPG error: http://deb.opera.com stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F9A2F76A9D1A0061 [11:28] Something like: wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add - [11:28] I assume its related to the opera gpg key... [11:28] Ok that seemed t run without a hitch. [11:28] back to the previous command? [11:28] Yes [11:28] :) [11:29] looks like success [11:29] Okay [11:29] Ign http://deb.opera.com stable/non-free Packages [11:29] Ign http://deb.opera.com stable/non-free Packages [11:29] Hit http://deb.opera.com stable/non-free Packages [11:29] Fetched 190B in 0s (221B/s) [11:29] Reading package lists... Done [11:29] cool [11:29] now run: sudo apt-get install opera [11:30] sudo apt-get install opera [11:31] Looks like its working, that was the first command i tried sudo apt-get install opera. and sudo apt-get opera. and I couldnt fathom what I wasn't doing right so I then started with the google. and then here.. [11:35] Success! [11:36] Thraul: Silver_Fox_: Thanks! I'ts now available in the menu for me :D [11:37] Do you need help getting flash working ? [11:39] ^ benny1 ^ [11:39] I'm not sure, I would expect so, I haven't used it before [11:39] is youtube flash? [11:40] Yes, it will require a flash player [11:40] run: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer ? [11:41] try playing a video on youtube. I think it will say something about needing a flash player. I think it will provide a download link. [11:41] yes, thats right I can't get my fix.. [11:41] shall i try the link? [11:43] Can do, yes :) [11:45] I assume choose APT for Ubuntu 9.04+ and agree install? [11:46] Sounds reasonable to me [11:46] No joy, I get a page about : Error! [11:46] The address type is unknown or unsupported [11:47] :( [11:48] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688707 try this page and follow soxs post at the bottom of the page. will guide you on installing flash with opera web browser === Thraul is now known as Thraul|AFK [11:49] Okay i will give that a go thanks to everyone !! [11:50] let us know how it go :) === Thraul|AFK is now known as Thraul [12:36] Silver_Fox_: hey do you mind joining -team? we're just having an informal chat about irc helping :) [12:36] Okay. === jamalta_ is now known as jamalta [13:44] is there agui for pgp? [13:48] switchgirl: for making a key? [13:48] yes [13:48] Accessories > passwords and encryption keys [14:01] kk [14:01] thanks [14:02] * switchgirl is thinking she needs help with a project [14:02] * switchgirl wants to open her government up and see what it's spending on everything- where possible [15:04] hi team [15:06] Hello Akos [15:08]