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ddecatoralright, lets see if the latest songbird release will work04:02
micahg[reed]: are we supposed to use the status1.9.x flags for the approval 1.9.x.x flags?04:39
[reed]micahg: approval flags are set on patches themselves04:40
micahg[reed]: yes, I know04:40
[reed]status is used for tracking whether a bug has been fixed on a branch or not04:40
micahgso, me being me, which do I use?04:40
[reed]what do you want to do?04:41
micahgI want a patch to land on the stable branches (not my patch)04:41
[reed]then request approval on the patch04:41
micahg[reed]: k04:41
ddecatordang, still same warning when i try to start songbird, and nothing happens =\04:55
ddecatorgdb shows a breakpoint for songbird that points to 'libc.so.6' which links to 'application/x-sharedlib' no idea where the library is located or if that's really what is causing the problem05:40
micahgddecator: can you get a backtrace?05:40
ddecatormicahg: using gdb?05:41
micahgddecator: yes05:41
ddecatormicahg: sure, one sec, i'll pastebin05:41
* micahg thinks he solved the gcc-4.4 issue :)05:41
ddecatorcongrats =)05:42
ddecatormicahg: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/400378/ ; the results are the same with and without the command for finding the breakpoint, but i can paste the other log as well if you want to see it for any reason05:43
ddecatori hate comcast...05:54
ddecatorwait05:54
ddecatorthere we go, i have a connection again05:54
ddecatormicahg: any idea on the backtrace?05:55
micahgddecator: can you run bt full after that?05:57
ddecatormicahg: sure, one sec05:57
ddecatormicahg: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/400383/05:58
micahgddecator: break on this gdk_window_set_icon_list05:59
ddecatormicahg: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/400386/06:03
micahgddecator: now bt fulll :)06:03
micahg1 l06:03
ddecatormicahg: continue all of the way through?06:04
micahg?06:04
ddecatori'm getting the "<return> to continue...." thing06:04
micahgddecator: sorry, I still haven't mastered gdb yet06:05
ddecatori'm guessing yes, haha06:05
ddecatormicahg: neither have i...06:05
ddecatorwow, ok, lots of output, i need to create an output file to catch it all06:06
ddecatordidn't get as much that time...weird06:08
ddecatormicahg: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/400388/06:09
ddecatorlots of xulrunner references06:10
ddecatori honestly have no idea how to accurately read backtraces06:24
ddecatormicahg: i'm not sure, but does the mention of the url for songbird crash reports suggest that that's the file causing things to crash?06:34
micahgddecator: ?06:34
ddecatormicahg: in the backtrace, under #15, "https://crashreports.songbirdnest.com/submit" is mentioned a few times06:35
micahgddecator: no, that's normal06:35
ddecatormicahg: ok...06:35
ddecatorthen i have no idea06:36
Mookhuh, you're building as an official build with the crasherporter url set? that's... probably not going to be useful (since we won't have your symbols to process your crashes with)06:41
Mookalso: you probably want to find symbols for libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 and libgobject-2.0.so.006:42
micahgMook: it's in there, but I think reporting should be disabled06:42
ddecatorhow would i get the symbols?06:43
ddecatoris gtk the issue?06:47
micahgddecator: the gtk -dbg or -dbgsym packages06:48
micahgddecator: you might need the ddebs repo06:48
* micahg really needs to stop staying up so late06:50
ddecatorhaha, i love staying up late06:51
ddecatormicahg: alright, i installed it06:51
micahgddecator: you don't have work in the morning :P06:51
ddecatormicahg: touche06:51
ddecatormicahg: before you go to bed, am i supposed to rerun gdb now?06:53
micahgddecator: yes, you should see functions now instead of () ??06:53
ddecatormicahg: good deal, thanks06:54
ddecatorwhat the..."__PRETTY_FUNCTION__"06:58
micahgddecator: GTK update to 2.20, see if that fixes it06:59
ddecatormicahg: that's the version i have...07:04
ddecatori'm guessing i should wait until we figure this out before i push the update?07:11
micahgddecator: idk07:12
micahgtoo tired :)07:12
micahgbut probably07:12
ddecatoryah, why are you still up =p07:12
ddecatorit does look like it's a gtk problem, but i'll try to figure more out tomorrow07:14
ddecatoralright, on that note, i'm getting off for the night. cya07:22
micahgasac: xul192 and ff36 tagged and ready to go...BTW, sqlite was bumped to 3.6.23 in trunk07:42
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asacho10:21
asacchrisccoulson: moin  moin ;)10:21
chrisccoulsonhey asac, how are you?10:21
asacgood ;)10:22
asachad kind of a bad night ... just fell asleep on the sofa ;)10:22
asacnot good for my already suffering shoulder10:22
chrisccoulsonno, that's definately not good ;)10:23
Glowballhttps://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable <-- Will that ppa give me the latest Firefox available?10:30
GlowballAbout > Help still says 3.6 instead of 3.6.210:30
asacGlowball: hats because we didnt roll 3.6.2 anywhere yet10:31
asaconce we roll it to lucid, then yes.10:31
asacchrisccoulson: do you have everything you need for nss/nspr update?10:32
GlowballAha, ok, I was just wondering if I really had the right ppa :)10:32
asacthats the right one10:32
asacchrisccoulson: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/nss/nss.head https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/nspr/nspr.head10:33
chrisccoulsonasac - thanks, just looking at those10:34
asachttp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/nspr/releases/10:34
asachttp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/security/nss/releases/10:34
asacchrisccoulson: ^^10:34
asaci think we should go for latest everywhere ...otherwise we will soon have to bump it in a stable update10:34
chrisccoulsoni was just about to ask that10:35
chrisccoulsonso, we're going to do update this in stable releases too?10:35
asacand we dont use debian to merge from because they have a busted soname approach10:35
asacwhich we reverted painfully ;)10:35
asacnss and nspr have full ABI stability guarantees10:36
asacwhich is why they dont use a version suffix10:36
asacits always libnspr4.so and libnss3.so10:36
asacthey use todays build and drop it into server installs that are 10 years old or older10:36
asacif we find any symbol being gone we need to stop everything and cause a firedrill on their side.10:37
chrisccoulsonyeah, i will check for that10:37
asacwe have .symbols files10:37
asacso we will notice10:37
chrisccoulsonah, ok10:37
gnomefreakis there a way to open a tab in the same term. you are in without having to choose a term. example: gnome term i want to open another tab in "legend" without haveing to choose between ambence/legend12:34
gnomefreakambiance12:34
gnomefreaki also woould like someone to confirm(or try to) bug 544187. I wont change the status since i filied the bug12:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 544187 in thunderbird "Thunderbird 3.0 does not respect at least one setting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54418712:41
chrisccoulsongnomefreak - the extra gnome-terminal profile will be disappearing this week ;)13:15
gnomefreakchrisccoulson: great thanks :)13:15
chrisccoulsonthe color / transparency settings will come from the theme13:15
gnomefreakyay ;)13:22
gnomefreakasac_: what version of 3.6 is in Lucid? i know daily is on 3.6.3 so i would have thought 3.6.2 would have landed. or did it and apt knows it just as 3.6?13:33
asacgnomefreak: landing today. chris is working on getting nss/nspr up13:34
asacthen we upload13:34
gnomefreakasac: thanks ill let him know13:34
asacchrisccoulson that is13:35
chrisccoulsoni'm doing that at the moment ;)13:36
gnomefreakasac: dont you have a blog about the firefox updates13:52
gnomefreakthe way firefox will be updated13:53
gnomefreakasac: i am not getting emails from comments i make/report upstream. I added myself to CC list to see if it helped and it did not. For some reason i am in the "excluded" list. how do i fix this? [reed] <<<15:14
asacgnomefreak: you can tweak your settings somewhere in options15:15
gnomefreakasac: in the "relationship" to a bug table i am unable to check reporter on the first line of the table15:17
asacgnomefreak: the last row is NOT  WHEN "The change was made by me "15:19
gnomefreaknow im watching myself :( not sure if that helps but im trying it15:19
asacis that what you have selected? unselect it15:19
asacnah. watching shouldnt be needed i hop15:19
gnomefreaki had it unselected IIRC but i had just selected it but both 2 last lines were unchecked15:20
asacyou will figure ;)15:22
gnomefreakah thanks i fixed it :)15:22
gnomefreak!info firefox karmic15:35
ubottufirefox (source: firefox-3.5): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.8+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.10.1 (karmic), package size 71 kB, installed size 128 kB15:35
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chrisccoulsonasac - i tried a fedora live CD yesterday to look at their fonts16:25
chrisccoulsonthey have different defaults to us (they set the default to "Best shapes" rather than subpixel smoothing)16:26
chrisccoulsonand their fonts aren't as nice as ours anywhere ;)16:26
chrisccoulsonbut setting the fonts to subpixel-smoothing on fedora seemed to make firefox just as bad as on ubuntu16:26
asacchrisccoulson: ok. have you tried upstream build?16:27
asacchrisccoulson: can you please try these two things:16:28
sebnerchrisccoulson: at least fedora has the superior artwork since years :P16:28
asaca) subpixel rendering16:28
chrisccoulsonasac - i didn't try an upstream build, but i will try that when i next get a chance16:28
asacb) try if changing stuff in gnome preferences is honoured at all16:28
asacthe second one is important16:28
chrisccoulsonsebner, what is superior about fedora's artwork?16:28
asacthey always claimed its us being broken16:28
asacwhile i suspect upstream just never has seen great fonts :)16:28
chrisccoulsonasac - ok, i'll look at that too16:29
chrisccoulsonasac - yeah, i think it looks bad on ubuntu because our fonts everywhere else look really nice16:29
chrisccoulsonand that's something i noticed straight away when i tried fedora16:29
sebnerchrisccoulson: dunno, but it just feels great (wallpapers, colours, everything) and that since years (I don't want to mention our old brown stuff ..)16:32
chrisccoulsoni quite liked the brown ;)16:32
chrisccoulsonand the new ubuntu artwork is really nice too16:32
chrisccoulsonin fact, i still run karmic on my desktop, and I use the default theme on that ;)16:33
sebnerchrisccoulson: I never liked the brown stuff, the new one is an improvement but I don't like the colour. Fedora blue ftw! :P  (me uses a black/dark theme though :P)16:34
chrisccoulsoni'm not a big fan of blue ;)16:34
chrisccoulsoni quite like green themes though16:35
* sebner agrees16:39
* micahg likes blue themes16:39
ccheneyi like humanity with mono light icons, with the buttons on the right side :)17:35
ccheneyhmm s/humanity/human/17:35
bdrungasac: around?17:50
ejatccheney: after installing the openclipart png n svg ... its not show it OOo17:51
ejatdo i need to manually import ?17:51
ccheneyejat: not sure, i just fixed the building and synced from debian, don't know how it works18:04
ccheneyejat: i'll try taking a look at it later today18:05
ejatccheney: thanks18:05
ejathow about the issue with inkscape ?18:05
ejatit is fixed?18:05
ccheneyejat: the issue with inkscape appears to be an infinite loop due to possibly a bad svg, its not fixed and the bug against it should still be open18:05
ccheneyejat: i worked around it by making openclipart build ignore that file18:06
ejatic ..18:06
ccheneythe file itself is probably buggy and inkscape has a bug in that it never fails and just loops instead18:06
ejatowh18:08
gnomefreakmicahg: do you know how to set chars per line in thunderbird?18:13
gnomefreakok does anyone?18:17
asacbdrung: yes19:21
bdrungasac: please test m-d if it fixes your use case19:22
asacchrisccoulson: sorry to poke you again ... blocked on nss/nspr ;)19:22
asacbdrung: the -O--- bustage?19:22
bdrung-O--- ?19:22
asac-O--builddirectory ;)19:22
chrisccoulsonasac - i've got nspr done, but nss is a PITA ;)19:23
chrisccoulsoni'm trying to work out what to do with 85_security_load.dpatch, as the code it touches has changed quite a bit19:23
bdrungasac: yes19:23
chrisccoulsonasac - the changes in mozilla bug 511312 completely break that patch19:24
ubottuMozilla bug 511312 in Libraries "NSS fails to load softoken, looking for sqlite3.dll" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51131219:24
asacchrisccoulson: ok thanks. have to watch a film and then will check that.19:25
chrisccoulsonasac - thanks. i will try and figure out what to do in the meantime ;)19:25
asacheh19:26
asacchrisccoulson: you could check if debian has done the update19:26
chrisccoulsonyeah, i should do that really19:26
asacthey might have the same patch, but take care i think we deviated from them at some point for some reason19:26
asacok out for awhile19:26
chrisccoulsonok, debian have update that patch19:35
chrisccoulsoni should have looked there first ;)19:36
kylehuffasac, asac_: I am still looking to discuss this email I received from you; I would like to talk more about it when you have time (as it came from launchpad, I cannot reply).20:01
hggdhnow it is public: http://files.cloudprivacy.net/ssl-mitm.pdf20:25
BUGabundoevening21:48
chrisccoulsonhey asac - did you see i proposed a merge request in to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/network-manager-applet/ubuntu.head last week?22:24
chrisccoulson(i don't know where the e-mails for those go to, so i'm not sure if you noticed)22:24
asacchrisccoulson: never assume i see such things ;)22:24
asacchrisccoulson: that patch works?22:29
chrisccoulsonasac - it does22:29
asacits odd22:29
mahfouzI had a funny bug in thunderbird the other day: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/53721022:29
ubottuUbuntu bug 537210 in thunderbird "thunderbird sends mail instead of putting it into draft folder under unstable network" [Undecided,New]22:29
asaci doesnt have proper lifecycle for the notify thing22:29
asacjust overrides it22:29
mahfouzthink I should report this somewhere else?22:29
asacif its != NUL22:29
asacso memleak22:29
asacoh no22:30
asacbut it always reuses notifications22:30
asachave you seen a few notifications with that?22:30
chrisccoulsonasac - i have. i'm using it at the moment22:31
chrisccoulsonasac - we use a similar method in g-s-d for updating the notifications (keeping the NotifyNotification handle open)22:32
chrisccoulsonor at least we used to (i should make sure it still does that after i changed the patch)22:32
asacchrisccoulson: ok i fixed the indentation of the patch and merged it22:42
asacand syntax stayle22:42
chrisccoulsonasac - thanks22:42
asacchrisccoulson: did you have any luck with nss?22:46
chrisccoulsonasac - yeah, i got it built in the end22:46
chrisccoulsondebian already updated that patch22:46
asacchrisccoulson: double checked that we did the same they did before ;)22:46
chrisccoulsonyeah, i'll do that in a second22:47
asackk22:47
micahgasac: should I request a sync for sqlite3?22:47
asacsqlite?22:47
micahgasac: trunk was bumped to 3.6.2322:47
asacfor xulrunner? i dont know. i think we can live with it being in-source22:47
asacyeah imo its too late. unless we have real reasons22:47
micahgasac: k22:48
asacmaybe find out what the changes would involve ... but lets keep focussed on the porting parts ;)22:48
micahgasac: k22:48
asacchrisccoulson: did you request a merge for nss?22:49
chrisccoulsonasac - not just yet. do you want me to clean all the lintian warnings up for nss?22:49
micahgasac: I thought we don't merge from debian22:49
asacchrisccoulson: what lintian warnings?22:49
asacchrisccoulson: i dont think we want to clean all up22:50
asacdefinitly not those about soname22:50
asacmicahg: merge from debian?22:50
micahgasac: right22:50
asaci hope he just picked the patch22:51
chrisccoulsonasac - http://paste.ubuntu.com/400828/22:51
asacchrisccoulson: i think we can live with those warnings22:52
chrisccoulsonasac - ok, no worries then. i will just tidy up the changelog, test and propose the merge22:53
asacyeah22:53
asaci think there was something really awful with the debhelper tokens22:53
asacbut ask me about that in a few days. i might remember more than22:54
asacchrisccoulson: nspr merge too?22:56
chrisccoulsonasac - yeah, i'm doing that too22:56
chrisccoulsonthe nspr update was quite a lot easier ;)22:56
asaccool. let me know. we need to get firefox 3.6.2 up22:56
asacwithout those we cant get them up22:56
asacyeah. did nspr change any symbols?22:56
asac"add" i mean22:56
chrisccoulsonnspr didn't add any, but nss added a few22:57
asacyeah. nss is moving faster ;)22:58
kylehuffasac: Do you have a moment?23:12
chrisccoulsonasac - nss / nspr are done now23:52
chrisccoulsonthe branches were slightly out of sync with the archive when i started btw23:52

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