[04:02] <ddecator> alright, lets see if the latest songbird release will work
[04:39] <micahg> [reed]: are we supposed to use the status1.9.x flags for the approval 1.9.x.x flags?
[04:40] <[reed]> micahg: approval flags are set on patches themselves
[04:40] <micahg> [reed]: yes, I know
[04:40] <[reed]> status is used for tracking whether a bug has been fixed on a branch or not
[04:40] <micahg> so, me being me, which do I use?
[04:41] <[reed]> what do you want to do?
[04:41] <micahg> I want a patch to land on the stable branches (not my patch)
[04:41] <[reed]> then request approval on the patch
[04:41] <micahg> [reed]: k
[04:55] <ddecator> dang, still same warning when i try to start songbird, and nothing happens =\
[05:40] <ddecator> gdb shows a breakpoint for songbird that points to 'libc.so.6' which links to 'application/x-sharedlib' no idea where the library is located or if that's really what is causing the problem
[05:40] <micahg> ddecator: can you get a backtrace?
[05:41] <ddecator> micahg: using gdb?
[05:41] <micahg> ddecator: yes
[05:41] <ddecator> micahg: sure, one sec, i'll pastebin
[05:41]  * micahg thinks he solved the gcc-4.4 issue :)
[05:42] <ddecator> congrats =)
[05:43] <ddecator> micahg: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/400378/ ; the results are the same with and without the command for finding the breakpoint, but i can paste the other log as well if you want to see it for any reason
[05:54] <ddecator> i hate comcast...
[05:54] <ddecator> wait
[05:54] <ddecator> there we go, i have a connection again
[05:55] <ddecator> micahg: any idea on the backtrace?
[05:57] <micahg> ddecator: can you run bt full after that?
[05:57] <ddecator> micahg: sure, one sec
[05:58] <ddecator> micahg: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/400383/
[05:59] <micahg> ddecator: break on this gdk_window_set_icon_list
[06:03] <ddecator> micahg: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/400386/
[06:03] <micahg> ddecator: now bt fulll :)
[06:03] <micahg> 1 l
[06:04] <ddecator> micahg: continue all of the way through?
[06:04] <micahg> ?
[06:04] <ddecator> i'm getting the "<return> to continue...." thing
[06:05] <micahg> ddecator: sorry, I still haven't mastered gdb yet
[06:05] <ddecator> i'm guessing yes, haha
[06:05] <ddecator> micahg: neither have i...
[06:06] <ddecator> wow, ok, lots of output, i need to create an output file to catch it all
[06:08] <ddecator> didn't get as much that time...weird
[06:09] <ddecator> micahg: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/400388/
[06:10] <ddecator> lots of xulrunner references
[06:24] <ddecator> i honestly have no idea how to accurately read backtraces
[06:34] <ddecator> micahg: i'm not sure, but does the mention of the url for songbird crash reports suggest that that's the file causing things to crash?
[06:34] <micahg> ddecator: ?
[06:35] <ddecator> micahg: in the backtrace, under #15, "https://crashreports.songbirdnest.com/submit" is mentioned a few times
[06:35] <micahg> ddecator: no, that's normal
[06:35] <ddecator> micahg: ok...
[06:36] <ddecator> then i have no idea
[06:41] <Mook> huh, you're building as an official build with the crasherporter url set? that's... probably not going to be useful (since we won't have your symbols to process your crashes with)
[06:42] <Mook> also: you probably want to find symbols for libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 and libgobject-2.0.so.0
[06:42] <micahg> Mook: it's in there, but I think reporting should be disabled
[06:43] <ddecator> how would i get the symbols?
[06:47] <ddecator> is gtk the issue?
[06:48] <micahg> ddecator: the gtk -dbg or -dbgsym packages
[06:48] <micahg> ddecator: you might need the ddebs repo
[06:50]  * micahg really needs to stop staying up so late
[06:51] <ddecator> haha, i love staying up late
[06:51] <ddecator> micahg: alright, i installed it
[06:51] <micahg> ddecator: you don't have work in the morning :P
[06:51] <ddecator> micahg: touche
[06:53] <ddecator> micahg: before you go to bed, am i supposed to rerun gdb now?
[06:53] <micahg> ddecator: yes, you should see functions now instead of () ??
[06:54] <ddecator> micahg: good deal, thanks
[06:58] <ddecator> what the..."__PRETTY_FUNCTION__"
[06:59] <micahg> ddecator: GTK update to 2.20, see if that fixes it
[07:04] <ddecator> micahg: that's the version i have...
[07:11] <ddecator> i'm guessing i should wait until we figure this out before i push the update?
[07:12] <micahg> ddecator: idk
[07:12] <micahg> too tired :)
[07:12] <micahg> but probably
[07:12] <ddecator> yah, why are you still up =p
[07:14] <ddecator> it does look like it's a gtk problem, but i'll try to figure more out tomorrow
[07:22] <ddecator> alright, on that note, i'm getting off for the night. cya
[07:42] <micahg> asac: xul192 and ff36 tagged and ready to go...BTW, sqlite was bumped to 3.6.23 in trunk
[10:21] <asac> ho
[10:21] <asac> chrisccoulson: moin  moin ;)
[10:21] <chrisccoulson> hey asac, how are you?
[10:22] <asac> good ;)
[10:22] <asac> had kind of a bad night ... just fell asleep on the sofa ;)
[10:22] <asac> not good for my already suffering shoulder
[10:23] <chrisccoulson> no, that's definately not good ;)
[10:30] <Glowball> https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable <-- Will that ppa give me the latest Firefox available?
[10:30] <Glowball> About > Help still says 3.6 instead of 3.6.2
[10:31] <asac> Glowball: hats because we didnt roll 3.6.2 anywhere yet
[10:31] <asac> once we roll it to lucid, then yes.
[10:32] <asac> chrisccoulson: do you have everything you need for nss/nspr update?
[10:32] <Glowball> Aha, ok, I was just wondering if I really had the right ppa :)
[10:32] <asac> thats the right one
[10:33] <asac> chrisccoulson: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/nss/nss.head https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/nspr/nspr.head
[10:34] <chrisccoulson> asac - thanks, just looking at those
[10:34] <asac> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/nspr/releases/
[10:34] <asac> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/security/nss/releases/
[10:34] <asac> chrisccoulson: ^^
[10:34] <asac> i think we should go for latest everywhere ...otherwise we will soon have to bump it in a stable update
[10:35] <chrisccoulson> i was just about to ask that
[10:35] <chrisccoulson> so, we're going to do update this in stable releases too?
[10:35] <asac> and we dont use debian to merge from because they have a busted soname approach
[10:35] <asac> which we reverted painfully ;)
[10:36] <asac> nss and nspr have full ABI stability guarantees
[10:36] <asac> which is why they dont use a version suffix
[10:36] <asac> its always libnspr4.so and libnss3.so
[10:36] <asac> they use todays build and drop it into server installs that are 10 years old or older
[10:37] <asac> if we find any symbol being gone we need to stop everything and cause a firedrill on their side.
[10:37] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i will check for that
[10:37] <asac> we have .symbols files
[10:37] <asac> so we will notice
[10:37] <chrisccoulson> ah, ok
[12:34] <gnomefreak> is there a way to open a tab in the same term. you are in without having to choose a term. example: gnome term i want to open another tab in "legend" without haveing to choose between ambence/legend
[12:34] <gnomefreak> ambiance
[12:41] <gnomefreak> i also woould like someone to confirm(or try to) bug 544187. I wont change the status since i filied the bug
[13:15] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak - the extra gnome-terminal profile will be disappearing this week ;)
[13:15] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: great thanks :)
[13:15] <chrisccoulson> the color / transparency settings will come from the theme
[13:22] <gnomefreak> yay ;)
[13:33] <gnomefreak> asac_: what version of 3.6 is in Lucid? i know daily is on 3.6.3 so i would have thought 3.6.2 would have landed. or did it and apt knows it just as 3.6?
[13:34] <asac> gnomefreak: landing today. chris is working on getting nss/nspr up
[13:34] <asac> then we upload
[13:34] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks ill let him know
[13:35] <asac> chrisccoulson that is
[13:36] <chrisccoulson> i'm doing that at the moment ;)
[13:52] <gnomefreak> asac: dont you have a blog about the firefox updates
[13:53] <gnomefreak> the way firefox will be updated
[15:14] <gnomefreak> asac: i am not getting emails from comments i make/report upstream. I added myself to CC list to see if it helped and it did not. For some reason i am in the "excluded" list. how do i fix this? [reed] <<<
[15:15] <asac> gnomefreak: you can tweak your settings somewhere in options
[15:17] <gnomefreak> asac: in the "relationship" to a bug table i am unable to check reporter on the first line of the table
[15:19] <asac> gnomefreak: the last row is NOT  WHEN "The change was made by me "
[15:19] <gnomefreak> now im watching myself :( not sure if that helps but im trying it
[15:19] <asac> is that what you have selected? unselect it
[15:19] <asac> nah. watching shouldnt be needed i hop
[15:20] <gnomefreak> i had it unselected IIRC but i had just selected it but both 2 last lines were unchecked
[15:22] <asac> you will figure ;)
[15:22] <gnomefreak> ah thanks i fixed it :)
[15:35] <gnomefreak> !info firefox karmic
[16:25] <chrisccoulson> asac - i tried a fedora live CD yesterday to look at their fonts
[16:26] <chrisccoulson> they have different defaults to us (they set the default to "Best shapes" rather than subpixel smoothing)
[16:26] <chrisccoulson> and their fonts aren't as nice as ours anywhere ;)
[16:26] <chrisccoulson> but setting the fonts to subpixel-smoothing on fedora seemed to make firefox just as bad as on ubuntu
[16:27] <asac> chrisccoulson: ok. have you tried upstream build?
[16:28] <asac> chrisccoulson: can you please try these two things:
[16:28] <sebner> chrisccoulson: at least fedora has the superior artwork since years :P
[16:28] <asac> a) subpixel rendering
[16:28] <chrisccoulson> asac - i didn't try an upstream build, but i will try that when i next get a chance
[16:28] <asac> b) try if changing stuff in gnome preferences is honoured at all
[16:28] <asac> the second one is important
[16:28] <chrisccoulson> sebner, what is superior about fedora's artwork?
[16:28] <asac> they always claimed its us being broken
[16:28] <asac> while i suspect upstream just never has seen great fonts :)
[16:29] <chrisccoulson> asac - ok, i'll look at that too
[16:29] <chrisccoulson> asac - yeah, i think it looks bad on ubuntu because our fonts everywhere else look really nice
[16:29] <chrisccoulson> and that's something i noticed straight away when i tried fedora
[16:32] <sebner> chrisccoulson: dunno, but it just feels great (wallpapers, colours, everything) and that since years (I don't want to mention our old brown stuff ..)
[16:32] <chrisccoulson> i quite liked the brown ;)
[16:32] <chrisccoulson> and the new ubuntu artwork is really nice too
[16:33] <chrisccoulson> in fact, i still run karmic on my desktop, and I use the default theme on that ;)
[16:34] <sebner> chrisccoulson: I never liked the brown stuff, the new one is an improvement but I don't like the colour. Fedora blue ftw! :P  (me uses a black/dark theme though :P)
[16:34] <chrisccoulson> i'm not a big fan of blue ;)
[16:35] <chrisccoulson> i quite like green themes though
[16:39]  * sebner agrees
[16:39]  * micahg likes blue themes
[17:35] <ccheney> i like humanity with mono light icons, with the buttons on the right side :)
[17:35] <ccheney> hmm s/humanity/human/
[17:50] <bdrung> asac: around?
[17:51] <ejat> ccheney: after installing the openclipart png n svg ... its not show it OOo
[17:51] <ejat> do i need to manually import ?
[18:04] <ccheney> ejat: not sure, i just fixed the building and synced from debian, don't know how it works
[18:05] <ccheney> ejat: i'll try taking a look at it later today
[18:05] <ejat> ccheney: thanks
[18:05] <ejat> how about the issue with inkscape ?
[18:05] <ejat> it is fixed?
[18:05] <ccheney> ejat: the issue with inkscape appears to be an infinite loop due to possibly a bad svg, its not fixed and the bug against it should still be open
[18:06] <ccheney> ejat: i worked around it by making openclipart build ignore that file
[18:06] <ejat> ic ..
[18:06] <ccheney> the file itself is probably buggy and inkscape has a bug in that it never fails and just loops instead
[18:08] <ejat> owh
[18:13] <gnomefreak> micahg: do you know how to set chars per line in thunderbird?
[18:17] <gnomefreak> ok does anyone?
[19:21] <asac> bdrung: yes
[19:22] <bdrung> asac: please test m-d if it fixes your use case
[19:22] <asac> chrisccoulson: sorry to poke you again ... blocked on nss/nspr ;)
[19:22] <asac> bdrung: the -O--- bustage?
[19:22] <bdrung> -O--- ?
[19:22] <asac> -O--builddirectory ;)
[19:23] <chrisccoulson> asac - i've got nspr done, but nss is a PITA ;)
[19:23] <chrisccoulson> i'm trying to work out what to do with 85_security_load.dpatch, as the code it touches has changed quite a bit
[19:23] <bdrung> asac: yes
[19:24] <chrisccoulson> asac - the changes in mozilla bug 511312 completely break that patch
[19:25] <asac> chrisccoulson: ok thanks. have to watch a film and then will check that.
[19:25] <chrisccoulson> asac - thanks. i will try and figure out what to do in the meantime ;)
[19:26] <asac> heh
[19:26] <asac> chrisccoulson: you could check if debian has done the update
[19:26] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i should do that really
[19:26] <asac> they might have the same patch, but take care i think we deviated from them at some point for some reason
[19:26] <asac> ok out for awhile
[19:35] <chrisccoulson> ok, debian have update that patch
[19:36] <chrisccoulson> i should have looked there first ;)
[20:01] <kylehuff> asac, asac_: I am still looking to discuss this email I received from you; I would like to talk more about it when you have time (as it came from launchpad, I cannot reply).
[20:25] <hggdh> now it is public: http://files.cloudprivacy.net/ssl-mitm.pdf
[21:48] <BUGabundo> evening
[22:24] <chrisccoulson> hey asac - did you see i proposed a merge request in to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/network-manager-applet/ubuntu.head last week?
[22:24] <chrisccoulson> (i don't know where the e-mails for those go to, so i'm not sure if you noticed)
[22:24] <asac> chrisccoulson: never assume i see such things ;)
[22:29] <asac> chrisccoulson: that patch works?
[22:29] <chrisccoulson> asac - it does
[22:29] <asac> its odd
[22:29] <mahfouz> I had a funny bug in thunderbird the other day: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/537210
[22:29] <asac> i doesnt have proper lifecycle for the notify thing
[22:29] <asac> just overrides it
[22:29] <mahfouz> think I should report this somewhere else?
[22:29] <asac> if its != NUL
[22:29] <asac> so memleak
[22:30] <asac> oh no
[22:30] <asac> but it always reuses notifications
[22:30] <asac> have you seen a few notifications with that?
[22:31] <chrisccoulson> asac - i have. i'm using it at the moment
[22:32] <chrisccoulson> asac - we use a similar method in g-s-d for updating the notifications (keeping the NotifyNotification handle open)
[22:32] <chrisccoulson> or at least we used to (i should make sure it still does that after i changed the patch)
[22:42] <asac> chrisccoulson: ok i fixed the indentation of the patch and merged it
[22:42] <asac> and syntax stayle
[22:42] <chrisccoulson> asac - thanks
[22:46] <asac> chrisccoulson: did you have any luck with nss?
[22:46] <chrisccoulson> asac - yeah, i got it built in the end
[22:46] <chrisccoulson> debian already updated that patch
[22:46] <asac> chrisccoulson: double checked that we did the same they did before ;)
[22:47] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'll do that in a second
[22:47] <asac> kk
[22:47] <micahg> asac: should I request a sync for sqlite3?
[22:47] <asac> sqlite?
[22:47] <micahg> asac: trunk was bumped to 3.6.23
[22:47] <asac> for xulrunner? i dont know. i think we can live with it being in-source
[22:47] <asac> yeah imo its too late. unless we have real reasons
[22:48] <micahg> asac: k
[22:48] <asac> maybe find out what the changes would involve ... but lets keep focussed on the porting parts ;)
[22:48] <micahg> asac: k
[22:49] <asac> chrisccoulson: did you request a merge for nss?
[22:49] <chrisccoulson> asac - not just yet. do you want me to clean all the lintian warnings up for nss?
[22:49] <micahg> asac: I thought we don't merge from debian
[22:49] <asac> chrisccoulson: what lintian warnings?
[22:50] <asac> chrisccoulson: i dont think we want to clean all up
[22:50] <asac> definitly not those about soname
[22:50] <asac> micahg: merge from debian?
[22:50] <micahg> asac: right
[22:51] <asac> i hope he just picked the patch
[22:51] <chrisccoulson> asac - http://paste.ubuntu.com/400828/
[22:52] <asac> chrisccoulson: i think we can live with those warnings
[22:53] <chrisccoulson> asac - ok, no worries then. i will just tidy up the changelog, test and propose the merge
[22:53] <asac> yeah
[22:53] <asac> i think there was something really awful with the debhelper tokens
[22:54] <asac> but ask me about that in a few days. i might remember more than
[22:56] <asac> chrisccoulson: nspr merge too?
[22:56] <chrisccoulson> asac - yeah, i'm doing that too
[22:56] <chrisccoulson> the nspr update was quite a lot easier ;)
[22:56] <asac> cool. let me know. we need to get firefox 3.6.2 up
[22:56] <asac> without those we cant get them up
[22:56] <asac> yeah. did nspr change any symbols?
[22:56] <asac> "add" i mean
[22:57] <chrisccoulson> nspr didn't add any, but nss added a few
[22:58] <asac> yeah. nss is moving faster ;)
[23:12] <kylehuff> asac: Do you have a moment?
[23:52] <chrisccoulson> asac - nss / nspr are done now
[23:52] <chrisccoulson> the branches were slightly out of sync with the archive when i started btw