[00:13] <jamestait> Anyone else noticed that addresses in U1 contacts differ from the Specification page at http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktopcouch/contact ?
[01:36] <duanedesign> jamalta_: i notice you have a syncing project you are working on
[01:36] <duanedesign> sorry jamalta_ tab fail
[01:36] <duanedesign> jamestait: ^^
[04:03] <marcosroriz> hello guys
[04:03] <marcosroriz> I found a bug
[04:05] <duanedesign> hello marcosroriz
[04:06] <duanedesign> whats the bug?
[04:06] <marcosroriz> the bug is that I have about 350 + files in a folder when I display on a web it seems that it get only 100 files to show at maximum
[04:07] <marcosroriz> I don't know if it's a bug, but it looks like
[07:46] <rye> evolution does not show ubuntuone couchdb contacts if desktopcouch was autolaunched by dbus... Hmmmm
[07:48] <rye> organization is set to ";" if no organization and department is set during phone sync
[07:49] <rye> after adding the cell phone via the phone UI and sync, the cell phone became "Other phone" for Evolution
[07:49]  * rye will file those bugs now
[08:02] <moto_> hello
[08:30] <NielsE> when I press F5 on one.ubuntu.com sometimes my folders are there, and sometimes half of them appear, and sometimes I can see them all
[08:30] <NielsE> is UbuntuOne having problems or something?
[08:31] <rye> rodrigo_, are you the one to poke about couchdb/evolution integration?
[08:32] <rodrigo_> rye, yes
[08:32] <rye> NielsE, unfortunately this i the flaw in the presentation code for ubuntuone files. The browser is instructed to send too many requests and some of them fail even though the response is on the way.
[08:34] <rye> rodrigo_, I figured out what causes my e-d-s to eat all my CPU - when evolution starts and desktopcouch is not started, then dbus autostarts dc, right? However at this time something becomes bad and my couchdb contacts do not show up. I need to shut down evolution completely for the addressbook to pick up the entries from desktopcouch
[08:34] <rye> rodrigo_, where to dig for more useful info? Lucid
[08:34] <rodrigo_> rye, hmm, run e-d-s on a terminal and pastebin the output
[08:35] <rye> Segmentation fault (core dumped) :-/
[08:35] <rodrigo_> e-d-s segfaults?
[08:35] <rye> rodrigo_, yup
[08:35] <rye> gdbing
[08:36] <rodrigo_> rye, then run it under gdb, please
[08:36] <rodrigo_> $ gdb /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-data-server-2.28
[08:36] <rodrigo_> and when it segfaults:
[08:36] <rodrigo_> (gdb) thread apply all bt
[08:37] <rye> rodrigo_, guess what?
[08:37] <rye> 0x00f13180 in ?? () from /lib/libdbus-1.so.3
[08:38] <rodrigo_> and before that?
[08:39] <rye> rodrigo_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/400443/
[08:40] <rodrigo_> I'd say this is the dbus-is-broken bug nessita was having the other day
[08:40] <rodrigo_> rye, are you running with all the latest updates?
[08:40] <rye> rodrigo_, yup
[08:43] <rye> ooooops
[08:43] <rye> rodrigo_, i believe i did a pretty bad thing now
[08:44] <rodrigo_> what did you do?
[08:46] <rye> rodrigo_, that backtrace contained my Google Account password :)
[08:46] <rodrigo_> ugh, change it!
[08:46] <rye> rodrigo_, since I was using Google Calendar
[08:47] <rye> rodrigo_, heh, already done :)
[11:09] <PaulGit> beuno: Just thought I would let you know that I am loitering around so if you get the CouchDB bug fix I can test the iPhone sync again.
[11:10] <rye> PaulGit, warning - do you have contacts in your couchdb ?
[11:10] <rye> PaulGit, there is an issue with couchdb -> funambol translation that does not bring the phone numbers and emails to syncml clients
[11:10] <rye> the syncml client -> funambol -> couchdb works fine though
[11:11] <PaulGit> rye: No, bueno yesterday showed me how to empty couchdb and then the contacts OOPS via web interface, my first sync yesterday showed that emails did not get syncronised but phone numbers and addresses did.
[11:12] <rye> PaulGit, ah, you have empty server-side couchdb, ok
[11:12] <PaulGit> rye: So just to be clear, syncing contacts from iPhone->funambol did work except for email addresses, but then I stumbled accross another bug so no longer can access contacts via web.
[11:14] <duanedesign> is syncml client the phone client?
[11:24] <rye> duanedesign, yup, SyncML is a standard for syncing contacts, calendars, notes and tasks (i believe)
[11:24]  * rye needs to find whether SyncML is a standard...
[11:24] <rye> Open Mobile Alliance Data Synchronization and Device Management
[11:25] <rye> that's how that is called now
[11:25] <duanedesign> and also Funambol?
[11:25] <duanedesign> :)
[11:25] <duanedesign> it is the server side....
[11:26] <duanedesign> oop quick google found that
[11:26] <rye> duanedesign, Funambol is the server-side application, but the clients may be built-in to the handsets or running as a separate application if the phone supports that
[11:27] <duanedesign> thank you sir, informative as always
[11:28] <PaulGit> It would be great if U1 supported Calendars, I could then remove all my data from Google! :)
[12:57] <oly> hi, i have tested out the music store last night i can see the music on the web interface but not on my desktop
[12:57] <oly> i have been told it should appear in ~/.ubuntuone but this folder does not exist
[12:57] <oly> is this a known issue ?
[12:58] <duanedesign> hello oly
[12:59] <oly> hi, its not a problem as i can get the music from the link just wondering if i have found a bug
[12:59] <duanedesign> i have not had a chance to use the music store yet. But maybe I can summon someone to help you :)
[13:00] <oly> :)
[13:00] <duanedesign> rye: ping
[13:01]  * rye appears
[13:01] <duanedesign> :)
[13:01] <rye> oly, need some terminal magic from you what does "u1sdtool --status" say?
[13:03] <oly> all okay is_error is false is_connected is true is_online is true
[13:03] <oly> description nothing on the wire
[13:04] <oly> and i can confirm my python code i am working on is in sync
[13:06] <dns53> i'm having problems adding my computer to ubuntu one
[13:06] <rye> nothing on the wire.. hm, it means that it believes that there is really nothing else to download. ...
[13:07] <rye> aquarius, is it possible that the files are transferred to the U1 storage, but there was no signal to syncdaemon at the client side?
[13:07] <aquarius> rye, yes. You can verify whether that's the case by looking at the web UI.
[13:07] <oly> i could create the hidden folder which may kick it in but obviously i should not have to :p
[13:08] <aquarius> music store downloads show up in the web UI
[13:08] <oly> i can see them in the web ui
[13:08] <aquarius> oly, you don't have to create the hidden folder; it'll be created for you when it works :)
[13:08] <aquarius> oly, ok...try disconnecting from Ubuntu One and reconnecting (on the command line, that's "u1sdtool -q" and "u1sdtool -c")
[13:09] <aquarius> that should re-do the server rescan, which should pick those new files up
[13:09] <oly> out of intrest why does it put them in a hidden folder ?
[13:09] <oly> its currently scanning by the way, will let you know when it has finished
[13:10] <PaulGit> oly: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store/+question/105279  will answer your question regarding hidden folder.
[13:17] <oly> ah kind of makes sense
[13:21] <dns53> i think i need to wipe out all traces of ubuntu one on my system, it will not authenticate this computer, any suggestions on how to do this?
[13:25] <joshuahoover> dns53: it won't authenticate your computer? what is it doing exactly?
[13:26] <dns53> joshuahoover ok so i had lots of duplicate entries for all my computers so i decided to remove them and clear our the list
[13:27] <joshuahoover> dns53: so the list is completely empty? no computers associated with your u1 account?
[13:27] <dns53> none
[13:28] <joshuahoover> dns53: can you try opening Applications->Accessories->Passwords & Encryption Keys and then delete your "ubuntuone" token there by right-clicking and select "delete"?
[13:29] <joshuahoover> dns53: also, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[13:30] <dns53> joshuahoover lucid, deleting that key seems to have fixed things
[13:33] <joshuahoover> dns53: ok, so i filed a bug for this problem yesterday when i was testing it out...so the good news is we know about it and will be fixing it :) bug #545506
[13:36] <dns53> yes that sounds like the bug
[13:44] <oly> well i now have the hidden folder, but its still syncing so not got the music yet
[13:44] <oly> but looking promising
[13:55] <oly> Cheers guys thats worked a treat i can now see the music
[13:56] <oly> i will have to remember to do the same on my home machine
[14:00] <duanedesign> oly: great \o/
[14:02] <oly> dont suppose theres any chance of running ubuntu one on debian arm is there ?
[14:02] <oly> so i can have the music synced onto my phone :)
[14:03] <oly> i was considering adding the ppa and seeing what happens :p
[14:03] <oly> but guessing the packages might not even be compiled to run on arm processors
[14:05] <dobey> i don't think the ppa compiles for arm automatically
[14:06] <dobey> but you can add just the deb-src line, and apt-get source and rebuild the packages, and any necessary dependencies
[14:07] <oly> am i likely to hit any major problems ?
[14:08] <oly> just trying to figure out if its worth attempting
[14:08] <oly> or am i likely to end up stuck in dependencie hell
[14:13] <oly> might give it a try later see what happens
[14:14] <oly> would be an excellent feature to have, especially with maemo and android being based on linux
[14:16] <dobey> i don't think so, unless it's debian stable or something
[14:17] <dobey> as long as the dependencies are satisf{ied,yable}, it should be pretty easy to do
[14:18] <dobey> just will take a little bit of time
[14:22] <oly> well i have debian stable on my phone in a virtual machine so i guess it could be done using that then :p
[14:23] <oly> the base os of maemo is debian but its modified and i dont know how much it varys from original debian
[14:23] <oly> i would guess biggest issue will likely be versions of the software not being upto date enough
[14:24] <dobey> you can install the sdk on a real computer, and cross-compile things
[14:24] <dobey> that's what i had to do for building webkit for it
[14:28] <oly> i will give it ago and post a howto if it works
[14:29] <dobey> cool :)
[14:50] <Technoviking> Got an idea for the Ubuntu one music store, be able to send a tweet/dent when you by a song/album.
[14:52] <jblount> Technoviking: I like it.
[14:54] <Technoviking> It has been 5 minutes and still has not started transfering to my Ubntu One account, is there a heavy load?
[14:54] <duanedesign> Technoviking: there is a Rhythmbox plugin for tweeting the song your listening to. I wonder if that might be a good place to start....
[14:56] <Technoviking> duanedesign: maybe, was think ways to promote the music store, build some hype
[14:58] <rye> duanedesign, I believe the /etc/hosts size is affecting desktopcouch startup. I believe it scans it through compeltely (spitting the errors with invalid entries) but fails to start before its own heartbeat kills it due to being unresponsive
[14:59] <jblount> rye: I'm having some trouble with syncdaemon being all crashy, does this look familiar: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/546074 ?
[14:59] <duanedesign> Technoviking: i like the idea
[15:00] <rye> jblount,  "Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. "
[15:00] <rye> o_O
[15:00] <dobey> Technoviking: interesting idea, but perhaps somewhat difficult to implement at the moment :)
[15:01] <jblount> rye: That's weird, it was marked private, but since you are a u1 hacker it should have still let you in.
[15:01] <rye> dobey, dbus signal to gwibber on item adding and viola - it tweets/facebooks/dents/diggs, whatever
[15:01] <jblount> rye: It's now public though.
[15:01] <duanedesign> rye: intteresting. I wonder if mine is a unique problem causing a common symptom or if all these bugs have this problem.
[15:01] <dobey> rye: the web doesn't have dbus signals
[15:01] <rye> duanedesign, startup speed I believe
[15:02] <dobey> rye: and purchases are all on the web
[15:02] <rye> dobey, ah, yep, right. sorry, I thought that rhythmbox is more involved, i.e. it gets some signals that 'hi, i am a new song!'
[15:03] <dobey> rye: it only sees the new song once it's been downloaded to the local machine, but it would get that signal whenever any song is put in that library
[15:03] <dobey> rye: which is not a reliable indication of 'purchased' :)
[15:03] <duanedesign> interesting
[15:04] <dobey> rye: because "file created" isn't at all related to the music store really
[15:04] <rye> jblount, hm, you have an upgrade from earlier metadata going on. While this looks familiar and suggests that you should remove the offending metadata item, I'd like to ask chicharra people about this. nessita? bug #546074
[15:05] <oly> you could use inotify to look for new files that appear in the purchased sync folder
[15:05] <nessita> rye: verterok is the guy to ask for... not sure of the status of that
[15:05] <rye> dobey, "just purchased /home/rtg/Documents/Download Day 2008.pdf from #ubuntuone #music #store. yay!"
[15:05] <nessita> rye: we do have a master bug for that
[15:06] <nessita> I'm looking for it
[15:06] <rye> nessita, thanks!
[15:06] <rye> verterok_, ^ ?
[15:06] <nessita> rye, jblount: this is the master bug, I'll close the new one as dup https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/522859
[15:07] <jblount> nessita: Thanks
[15:07] <nessita> thank you!
[15:09] <rye> jblount, yep, file removal - in your case what " find ~/.local/share/ubuntuone -name '48f58fd9-9b87-4d10-971b-fd084c620a43' " returns?
[15:10] <rye> nessita, thanks!
[15:10] <nessita> :-)
[15:10] <dobey> rye: exactly
[15:11] <jblount> rye: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/400584/
[15:12] <rye> jblount, find ~/.local/share/ubuntuone -name '48f58fd9-9b87-4d10-971b-fd084c620a43' -delete
[15:12] <rye> jblount, and restart syncdaemon / reopen me-menu, etc.
[15:16]  * rye thinks of a local lucid mirror - 3 real machines and 4 virtual ones.. It takes time to upgrade and keep them in sync
[15:17] <rye> duanedesign, you had ~103570 lines in your /hosts, hmmm
[15:29] <jblount> rye: Seems to be rocking now, thanks for the help
[15:30]  * jblount notices that "Shared With Me" gets synced first before his files. 
[15:33] <rye> CardinalFang, ping, I know what's happening with duanedesign's couchdb, well, I now I know that we can't do much in our desktopcouch startup code
[15:34] <rye> CardinalFang, duanedesign. For some reason reading /etc/hosts took a lot of time. It reads and parses every line, thus it takes more time. We could increase the timeout for starting up couchdb, BUT the couchdb gets killed by its own heartbeat system:
[15:34] <rye> heart_beat_kill_pid = 4549
[15:34] <rye> heart_beat_timeout = 11
[15:34] <CardinalFang> rye, dang.
[15:34] <CardinalFang> rye, I thank you for figuring that out.
[15:34] <rye> heart: Wed Mar 24 17:31:07 2010: heart-beat time-out.
[15:34] <rye> Killed
[15:35] <CardinalFang> I'll harass couchdb folks.
[15:35] <rye> heart: Wed Mar 24 17:31:08 2010: Executed "/usr/bin/couchdb -k". Terminating.
[15:37] <rye> now we have two questions, why  it worked earlier - duanedesign started having the issue after upgrade to Lucid and 2 - how we can ask heartbeat to stop killing busy couchdbs
[15:37] <rye> phew
[15:37] <duanedesign> true
[15:37] <rye> duanedesign, have you opened the bug report regarding that?
[15:38]  * rye restores his vm to a "regular broken" state
[15:38] <duanedesign> i was just looking at it. This is the one they made the maswter for the issue bug 530541
[15:39] <jml> I just tried launching Ubuntu One and got a crash in lucid
[15:40] <jml> apport popped asking me if I wanted to report it. I do, so I said yes.
[15:40] <jml> but it's been chewing up a whole CPU core for several minutes now
[15:42] <jml> ooh, now I've clicked cancel and it's gone grey
[15:42] <jml> also something is eating my memory :(
[15:42] <jml> killing gdb seemed to help there
[15:44] <duanedesign> hello jml . rye went to post some info on a bug report. I am sure he or someone else will be right in to help you
[15:44] <jml> thanks.
[15:45] <rye> CardinalFang, that might be somehow related to slow couchdb startup on the servers as well... Though in case it starts up for several minutes... where's the heartbeat then?
[15:46] <rye> jml, hm, gdb involved, so that's probably python crash and I believe it is somehow related to dbus... Could you please tell whether there is something SEGFAULT/sigsegv-like in your dmesg now?
[15:47] <jml> [ 4299.092433] __ratelimit: 9 callbacks suppressed
[15:47] <jml> [ 4299.092444] ubuntuone-login[7548]: segfault at 3 ip 00007fee2806422c sp 00007fee258707e8 error 4
[15:47] <jml> [ 4299.092511] ubuntuone-login[7547]: segfault at b ip 00007fee280644b5 sp 00007fff9659df70 error 4 in libdbus-1.so.3.4.0[7fee2803e000+3d000]
[15:47] <jml> [ 4299.093057]  in libdbus-1.so.3.4.0[7fee2803e000+3d000]
[15:48] <rye> jml, eeexactly
[15:49] <jml> rye, so it's a known bug?
[15:49] <rye> jml, could you please check whether you are running latest software?
[15:49] <jml> sure.
[15:49] <rye> jml, just regular upgrade/update, to make sure we are on the same page
[15:50] <rye> jml, hm, additionally, could you please check whether ps aux | grep [c]ouch returns something now?
[15:51]  * rye thinks that ubuntuone-login might want to talk to couchdb, that was not started, so it autostarted and died... Much like couchdb-evo.. hmmmm
[15:51] <tcole> alecu: ping
[15:51] <jml> yeah couchdb is running
[15:51] <tcole> er, wrong channel
[15:51] <jml> rye,
[15:51] <jml> http://paste.ubuntu.com/400609/
[15:52] <rye> jml, ok, could you please run u1sdtool --connect  from the terminal ?
[15:53] <rye> dobey, is ubuntuone-login talking to couchdb in any way?
[15:53] <jml> rye, there are a lot of packages that have changed since I last upgraded
[15:53] <jml> rye, I'm in a cafe so I'd rather not hit them w/ a 350MB download
[15:54] <rye> jml, ok, could you please try connecting via command line then? (actually it does pretty much the same thing as the preferences app callable from MeMenu)
[15:55] <jml> rye, jml@truth:~$ u1sdtool --connect
[15:55] <jml> jml@truth:~$
[15:55] <rye> jml, now try me-menu app?
[15:55] <jml> rye, the MeMenu crashed after I logged in, fwiw
[15:55] <jml> rye, I don't know how to get it back.
[15:55] <rye> jml, /usr/lib/indicator-me/indicator-me-service & ?
[15:56] <dobey> rye: it sets up the desktopcouch pairing to u1 when you get an oauth token, yes
[15:56] <jml> rye, http://paste.ubuntu.com/400612/
[15:57] <jml> originally, I tried to launch Ubuntu One using gnome-do (just typed ubuntuone and hit enter)
[15:57] <jussi01> hrm, Ive installed ubuntuone-client, but I dont seem to have any way to start ubuntuone - its not in the menu's and tab complete gives me nothing I can see... help?
[15:58] <jussi01> Im on kde if that makes a difference...
[15:58] <rye> something is wrong with desktopcouch autostart... and it causes external apps to crash... hmmm. Or there is something wrong in all apps
[15:58] <rye> jussi01, you can start ubuntuone-preferences or use cmdline client - u1sdtool --connect
[15:58] <rye> jussi01, not cmdline client, but cmdline interface to ubuntuone client, that's better
[15:59] <jussi01> hrm, I dont seem to have ubuntuone-preferences
[16:00] <rye> jussi01, ah, that is in ubuntuone-client-gnome that depends on nautilus that depends on gnome... which will take a lot of dependencies if you are running kubuntu-only install
[16:00] <rye> jussi01, do you have u1sdtool app?
[16:00] <jussi01> rye: yes
[16:01] <jussi01> jussi@workhorse:~$ u1sdtool --connect
[16:01] <jussi01> Usage: u1sdtool [option]
[16:01] <jussi01> u1sdtool: error: no such option: --connect
[16:03] <dobey> must be on karmic
[16:03] <jml> rye, anyway, let me know if you need more debugging information. I'm going to go deal with other stuff that lucid inexplicably broke
[16:03] <jussi01> dobey: correct
[16:05] <jussi01> *G* I love your explanations...LOL:   -w, --wait            Wait until ubuntuone-syncdaemon reachs nirvana
[16:05] <rye> jml, I will try to reproduce this segfault on a vm, so far I have pretty much reproducible crash with couchdb/evolution-data-server
[16:06] <jml> rye, cool. good luck!
[16:06] <rye> jussi01, I believe the only option for now would be to install ubuntuone-client-gnome :(
[16:07] <jussi01> rye: oh. :( Right, Ill wait the month and install Lucid :)
[16:16]  * rye is off for an hour or so, ping me and I will reply once available
[18:03] <rye> sandy|lurk, ping
[18:03] <sandy|lurk> rye: pong
[18:04] <rye> sandy|lurk, I  found that Lucid Tomboy does not dump the response content in case server returned an error, is it ok?
[18:04] <sandy|lurk> rye: the only reason that happened in Karmic is because rodrigo_ patched the package to enable extra-verbose debugging
[18:04] <sandy|lurk> you guys could reapply that patch if you think it's important
[18:05] <sandy|lurk> I was meaning to add another command-line option so that it wouldn't have to be a code change, but just didn't get around to it
[18:05] <sandy|lurk> and GNOME is in code freeze now
[18:06] <rye> sandy|lurk, here's what we are thinking about - in case server produces an error, we might need some bits except the 500 phrase. Since adding this to the status line might be overriden by the library, I am wondering whether we can start adding some X-Reason/etc header in order to provide some info about the failure
[18:06] <rye> but I still like the status line for this thing more...
[18:07] <sandy|lurk> I'm not sure what you mean by "status line"
[18:07] <sandy|lurk> (sorry, I'm still pretty new to web development)
[18:07] <rye> sandy|lurk, "500 INTERNAL SERVER ERROR"
[18:07] <sandy|lurk> oh :-)
[18:08] <sandy|lurk> so we have a related upstream bug for snowy https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591456
[18:09] <sandy|lurk> same idea, of trying to return a more helpful error message somehow
[18:10] <sandy|lurk> so whatever you guys do in U1, we should do in Snowy, so that Tomboy only has to handle one approach
[18:10] <sandy|lurk> if you want to do it in the status line, that seems reasonable to me
[18:18] <aquarius> I recommend adding a header
[18:19] <aquarius> because then if you've got two reasons, you can add two headers, rather than trying to encode them into the status line
[18:20] <aquarius> "The Reason-Phrase is intended to give a short textual description of the Status-Code". Note "short".
[18:20] <aquarius> you might want to give a longer reason.
[18:23] <sandy|lurk> makes sense
[18:41] <rye> aquarius, sandy|lurk but we need the header to be standardized somehow then :)
[18:41] <rye> aquarius, and our server-side should not strip it
[18:42] <rye> well, I am just stating the obvious things
[18:42] <sandy|lurk> yes, the header stuff would have to be part of our Tomboy Web REST API spec
[18:42] <sandy|lurk> but that's fine
[19:24] <PaulGit> beuno: Are you about, is it safe for me to try the contacts sync with iPhone?  The web bug now appears to be fixed.
[19:25] <beuno> PaulGit, it shouldn't of been fixed AFAIK
[19:25] <beuno> but
[19:25] <beuno> go for it!
[19:25] <beuno> :)
[19:26] <PaulGit> beuno: Mmm, I don't get the oops.  OK here goes.....
[19:26] <beuno> I don't see anything bad happening other than having to try again later
[19:26]  * beuno crosses fingers
[19:29] <PaulGit> beuno: No luck, error in log says'  'Server Failur'e: server returned error code 511
[19:30] <beuno> PaulGit, as expected
[19:30] <beuno> thisfred is dealing with the server migration/fix right now
[19:30] <beuno> so it'll take a while
[19:31] <PaulGit> beuno: It was worth a try!  I will hang around, give me a shout if the migration happens today. :)
[19:32] <beuno> PaulGit, you're the first person on my list!
[19:32] <PaulGit> beuno: :)
[19:34] <polter> so I'm having a couple of issues with U1, or maybe, more likely, one big problem. I can't get UbuntuOne to sync files, and the options under "services" in the preferences are all greyed out.. running Lucid..
[19:34] <polter> is this the right place to ask?
[19:35] <polter> I looked around for open bugs on Launchpad but it's somewhat of a swamp of incomplete reports right now
[19:35] <joshuahoover> polter: this is the right place
[19:35] <polter> cool
[19:35] <dobey> the services tab is supposed to be greyed out (the options don't actually do anything in the version you have)
[19:35] <polter> ah, alrighty then, that's one down
[19:36] <joshuahoover> polter: can you first run the following command in a terminal session: u1sdtool -s
[19:36] <dobey> but they will work in an update to come soon :)
[19:36] <dobey> and joshuahoover can help you with the other problems :)
[19:36] <joshuahoover> yes, dobey can get back to making more stuff work now :)
[19:37] <polter> paste here or in a pastebin?
[19:38] <polter> http://fpaste.org/Jpu4/ Fedora pastebin, blasphemy!
[19:38] <joshuahoover> polter: ok, it looks like you need to connect
[19:39] <joshuahoover> polter: you can do this from the command line: u1sdtool -c
[19:39] <joshuahoover> polter: and you should be able to do it through the preferences on the devices tab with the "connect" button
[19:40] <joshuahoover> polter: and we won't hold it against you for using the fedora pastebin ;)
[19:40] <polter> I have tried that several times. I also removed my key for ubuntu one to reconnect my computer.. but it still wouldn't work
[19:40] <polter> let's see if it syncs..
[19:40] <joshuahoover> polter: hmmm...if you do "u1sdtool -c" what does it output?
[19:40] <joshuahoover> polter: was it ever working for you?
[19:41] <polter> well I had it working on Jaunty and Karmic before and I believe I've had it working on Lucid too.
[19:41] <polter> but honestly,, I'm not 100% sure, now that you mention it
[19:42] <joshuahoover> polter: ok, just wanted to check
[19:42] <polter> no output with "-c" but now "-s" tell me I'm connected.. but I still can't sync
[19:42] <joshuahoover> polter: ok, what are you doing to see if files are syncing?
[19:43] <joshuahoover> polter: adding files? waiting for files from the server?
[19:43] <polter> ah wait.. I think it's working!
[19:43] <polter> brilliant!
[19:43] <polter> but it's still kind of weird that it wouldn't let me do this through the preferences-dialog
[19:44] <joshuahoover> polter: what version do you have? apt-cache policy ubuntuone-client
[19:44] <polter> 1.1.4-0ubuntu1
[19:44] <polter> I just did the updates an hour ago or so
[19:44] <joshuahoover> polter: ok, you have the latest version...just had to check :)
[19:45] <joshuahoover> polter: hmmm...when you clicked the "connect" button, it didn't ever change to a "disconnect" button?
[19:45] <polter> I could disconnect it and try to run it from preferences again..
[19:45] <joshuahoover> polter: sure, that would be helpful for seeing if there's a bigger problem that we may need to fix
[19:46] <polter> btw, where do I find log files for UbuntuOne?
[19:47] <polter> it actually seems to work now
[19:47] <joshuahoover> polter: ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log
[19:47] <polter> that's odd
[19:48] <polter> I've had a couple of "Authentication failed"-errors
[19:48] <vistro_> Hey, is it normal that I can only get it to sync a file by deleteing and re-adding it repeatedly for over an hour?
[19:50] <joshuahoover> vistro_: no, that's not normal
[19:50] <vistro_> It's been that way for the past 4 computers I've used U1 on
[19:50] <joshuahoover> vistro_: how big is the file?
[19:51] <vistro_> Well, it does this for every file, big and small. It did this on a 14kb file, and it's doing this on a link to a folder wiht many subfolders with 190MB of data collectivley
[19:51] <polter> well anyways joshuahoover , thank's a bunch for your help. I'll keep testing it for a couple of days or so and if I experience any more issues I'll get in here then maybe file a bug report
[19:52] <joshuahoover> vistro_: hmmm...how do you know it's not syncing? checking the web ui? looking at the file emblems? etc.
[19:52] <joshuahoover> polter: happy it's connecting for you now...don't hesitate to ask for more help here :)
[19:52] <vistro_> the emblems lie. I know this. I know this because I can completley remove my computer from the internet, add a file, and if I refresh the folder, the check mark is there
[19:52] <vistro_> Online I realize can be slow, but I check it anyway
[19:52] <joshuahoover> vistro_: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[19:53] <vistro_> and I also try to force other computers also looking at the account to synch
[19:53] <vistro_> 9.10
[19:53] <joshuahoover> vistro_: ok, yeah the file emblems there aren't as useful as they are in our ppa and lucid versions
[19:53] <vistro_> I have also recently started to use u1tool --current-transfer
[19:53] <joshuahoover> vistro_: and you never see any files being uploaded/downloaded?
[19:53] <vistro_> and it either says nothing either way, or it's downloading some random file I put in there months ago
[19:54] <vistro_> from another computer
[19:54] <joshuahoover> hmmm...
[19:55] <joshuahoover> vistro_: ok, i think we may need some debug logs...
[19:55] <vistro_> The purpose behind the folder link is to share it, I'm collaberating with another Ubuntu user to create a very large /b/ folder before we launch it online
[19:55] <vistro_> kk
[19:55] <vistro_> I already have debug going and logging
[19:55] <joshuahoover> vistro_: ah, good
[19:55] <vistro_> I'll CDC or whatever it over if you would like
[19:55] <vistro_> DCC
[19:55] <joshuahoover> vistro_: do you have a bug open on this already?
[19:56] <vistro_> I opened a bug like last september and I opened one today
[19:56] <vistro_> couldn't tell you where the links are
[19:56] <joshuahoover> vistro_: can you attach ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log to the new bug?
[19:56] <vistro_> Kinda hard to spread the evangellical word of Linux when it's a tad... buggy lol :p
[19:57] <vistro_> sure
[19:57] <joshuahoover> vistro_: oh, you don't know the bug #?
[19:57] <vistro_> I can find it in Chrome
[19:58] <vistro_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/546281
[19:58] <vistro_> brb
[20:00] <vistro_> back
[20:00] <vistro_> now is when I realize the two problems have nothing to do with each other
[20:01] <joshuahoover> vistro_: yeah, i'm reading through the log you just attached...
[20:03] <joshuahoover> vistro_: can you give me a name of a file you've copied to ~/Ubuntu One recently that is not syncing?
[20:03] <vistro_> link to b
[20:05] <joshuahoover> vistro_: hmmm...i see that in the log but only see deletes on it
[20:06] <vistro_> yeah
[20:06] <vistro_> but I keep adding it
[20:08] <joshuahoover> vistro_: i see a delete around 14:23 and then another delete on the same file at 14:29 but that's it, only deletes
[20:08] <vistro_> now this is strange
[20:08] <vistro_> I deleted the link
[20:08] <vistro_> and then
[20:08] <vistro_> I added the same link, and a gif file
[20:08] <vistro_> the moment I released the button on the gif file
[20:09] <vistro_> I got a balloon saying it's synching
[20:09] <joshuahoover> vistro_: you said "added the same link"...are you copying the file or linking to it?
[20:10] <vistro_> I go to my Downloads folder, select, Make Link, then drag the link to U1
[20:10] <joshuahoover> vistro_: ahhh...that won't work
[20:10] <joshuahoover> vistro_: we don't support links like that
[20:10] <vistro_> osmeone in #ubuntu said that's what I need to do if I want to keep a folder in it's same location and still share it
[20:10] <joshuahoover> vistro_: in lucid and our beta ppa version we support syncing folders outside of the ~/Ubuntu One folder but we don't follow links
[20:11] <vistro_> what are the risks to running the beta ppa?
[20:11] <joshuahoover> vistro_: not sure who told you that, but that will not work
[20:11] <vistro_> because I'm not going to 10.04 until launch day
[20:12] <joshuahoover> vistro_: right, well, the beta ppa changes quite a few things (as does our lucid version)...most for the better but some not (as we're rapidly fixing/adding things)
[20:12] <joshuahoover> vistro_: it's pretty low risk...i have it on some of my karmic instances and it's fine
[20:12] <joshuahoover> vistro_: it does lose the applet, which is a big change everyone notices right away
[20:12] <vistro_> as long as it syncs, I'm fine
[20:13] <joshuahoover> vistro_: but it gives you syncing outside of the ~/Ubuntu One folder, fixes a lot of bugs, and provides better file emblems
[20:13] <vistro_> how do I get it?
[20:13] <duanedesign> on my karmic install i added a custom launcher to my panel that uses the command ubuntuone-preferences
[20:13] <duanedesign> creates the same look and feel of the applet
[20:14] <joshuahoover> vistro_: from a terminal session: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntuone/beta
[20:14] <joshuahoover> vistro_: sudo apt-get update
[20:14] <joshuahoover> vistro_: sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:16] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: i was on the forum last night and saw a user talking about a couch U1 app he would like to make. I thought 'someone else has already done 3/4 of that on another app'
[20:17] <duanedesign> i was thinking of a place where all these U1  couch projects could be put together
[20:17] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: what app?
[20:17] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: yeah, definitely...we should capture it on our wiki for now somewhere
[20:17] <duanedesign> like a wiki page or something where people post their personal couch U1 projects
[20:17] <joshuahoover> :)
[20:18] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: this particular one was a user wanting to have his rhythmbox ratings synced between computers
[20:18] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: just the other day a user was in here making a plugin that syncs playlists
[20:19] <vistro_> sounds nice
[20:19] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: oh, i missed that
[20:19] <vistro_> What would be awesome is an app that syncs with Android
[20:19] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: i think it came over right after you where there ;)
[20:19] <vistro_> HTC Sync not for Linux :p
[20:19] <duanedesign> it was late last night
[20:20] <joshuahoover> vistro_: we have someone interested in doing that as part of google summer of code...we're going to get him a mentor from the team to hopefully make an android client a reality
[20:20] <duanedesign> but i have been working on a package sync app. I know others have expressed an interest in maybe putting a gui to it
[20:20] <vistro_> Will the phone not know the difference?
[20:21] <vistro_> mkay now how do i Start the new client?
[20:21] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: anyway wanted to get my idea out there. Now I have to do it, ive told people, lol.
[20:22] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: heh
[20:22] <joshuahoover> vistro_: system->preferences->ubuntu one, click the devices tab, click the "connect" button
[20:24] <joshuahoover> vistro_: let me know if that doesn't appear to connect for you
[20:24] <vistro_> restarting nautilus in hopes of a shell change
[20:24] <joshuahoover> vistro_: ah yes, to get the new context menu options and emblems you'll likely need to do that, forgot about that
[20:25] <vistro_> I see one change in the context, but I can sense there is more...
[20:25] <vistro_> like it got much longer
[20:26] <joshuahoover> vistro_: you should now see an option for "Synchronize on Ubuntu One" when you right-click on a folder outside of the ~/Ubuntu One folder
[20:26] <vistro_> the subfolders aren't gridded anymore
[20:26] <statik> hi duanedesign, are you around?
[20:27] <vistro_> okay, the main folder has no emblems, subfolders have emblems, and the network activity isn't showing much
[20:28] <joshuahoover> vistro_: your ~/Ubuntu One folder, correct?
[20:28] <vistro_>  /b/ foldr
[20:32] <joshuahoover> vistro_: if you go to https://one.ubuntu.com/files do you see anything under "User Defined Folders" there?
[20:34] <vistro_> >< posted in wrong channel
[20:34] <vistro_> folder structure is there
[20:34] <vistro_> but no files
[20:34] <joshuahoover> vistro_: how many files are in that folder?
[20:36] <vistro_> 0
[20:36] <vistro_> wait
[20:36] <vistro_> the real one?
[20:36] <vistro_> let me check
[20:36] <vistro_> If I had to guess, over 9000
[20:36] <joshuahoover> vistro_: that's going to take quite a while to sync i'm afraid
[20:36] <vistro_> 877 to be exact
[20:37] <joshuahoover> vistro_: so not 9000?
[20:37] <vistro_> the goal of the project (before it goes online on friday) is over 9000
[20:37] <vistro_> but there are 877 files there right now
[20:37] <vistro_> which means we need to get busy
[20:37] <joshuahoover> vistro_: still will take a while...we're working on improving the speed of syncing lots of files (regardless of the size, it takes a while for a lot files to sync)
[20:37] <vistro_> but the tool says nothings synching at all
[20:38] <vistro_> wait... does the program send data in 3 second bursts?
[20:38] <joshuahoover> vistro_: right, it's essentially "prepping" to sync the files right now...can you try running: u1sdtool -s
[20:38] <vistro_>     connection: With User With Network
[20:38] <vistro_>     description: processing queues
[20:38] <vistro_>     is_connected: True
[20:38] <vistro_>     is_error: False
[20:38] <vistro_>     is_online: True
[20:38] <vistro_>     queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH
[20:39] <joshuahoover> vistro_: ok, it's working on it...lots of files (say, 100's, which you have in your /b folder) take a while to start transferring
[20:40] <vistro_> okay
[20:40] <vistro_> I'll give it like ten minutes then start debug mode
[20:41] <joshuahoover> vistro_: ok, thanks
[20:43] <mandel> ping rodrigo_
[22:43] <jamestait> Evening all.  Has the Contacts and Notes downtime started yet?
[23:02] <beuno> jamestait, about to I think
[23:03] <jamestait> Hi beuno, thanks - useful to know in case things appear to start breaking after I've been hacking!
[23:04] <beuno> jamestait, hopefully, we'll be on a stable system after that
[23:05] <jamestait> Excellent. :)
[23:05] <jamestait> I expect breakage at this stage, it's just good to know about it. identi.ca alerts to the rescue!
[23:06] <beuno> yeah, I think joshuahoover will start tweeting when it kicks off
[23:09] <jamestait> beuno: Are you able to check an OOPS for me? I think I killed my U1 contacts. :-S
[23:10] <jamestait> OOPS-ID-1544appserver111958
[23:10] <jamestait> Oh that's handy. :)
[23:11] <jamestait> Ah, if you have the right credentials, of course!
[23:20] <beuno> jamestait, I am
[23:20] <beuno> let me check...
[23:21] <jamestait> I may be missing design docs?  I did the delete/put thing.
[23:22] <beuno> jamestait, yes
[23:22] <beuno> this is a bug
[23:22] <beuno> that is fixed
[23:22] <beuno> and is waiting to be deployed
[23:22] <jamestait> OK, that's fine then.
[23:22] <beuno> thisfred, are we deploying tonight?
[23:23] <thisfred> beuno: it looks like it yes, in a few minutes if all goes well
[23:23] <beuno> \o/
[23:23] <jamestait> I'm just conscious that sometimes I spit out garbage and break U1 contacts view.
[23:23] <jamestait> thisfred: Rock 'n' roll! :)
[23:23] <beuno> I think in this case it's our fault
[23:23] <beuno> :)
[23:26] <jamestait> See, this is why Free Software rocks. :)
[23:30] <dutchie> I can't get connected on lucid
[23:30] <dutchie> u1sdtool -s gives is_error True, is_{connected,online} False
[23:31] <dutchie> ubuntuone-preferences just hangs
[23:43] <marcosroriz> hello guys
[23:44] <dutchie> OK, it seems that it's the auth failing
[23:44] <dutchie> any ideas?