=== nikolam_ is now known as nikolam [01:15] hi all- our user gorup has made a LiveDVD with XUbuntu as a base.. its working really well.. 9.10 I think.. but one thing.. I cannot ssh in when it is running as a VM. I installed openssh-server, and can ssh out.. the connection closed immediately when I try.. what to do? what to check? [01:19] yes, 9.10 [01:31] did you install openssh-server? [01:31] It might be the vm is blocking ssh in also. VBox does that if everything is not set up just right [01:35] hi charlie-tca [01:35] I did install openssh-server [01:35] I have been on the vbox channel, and no one could identify anything wrong with my setup [01:36] nmap shows port 22 open [01:36] just a minute [01:36] 64 or 32 bit? [01:37] linux generic i686 [01:37] let me bring up vbox [01:37] uname -a [01:37] doesnt say 64bit [01:37] 686 is 32bit [01:37] I'm pulling up a 9.10 VBox machine [01:38] ok nice [01:38] bridged adapter on eth0 [01:38] y [01:38] uname -m [01:38] if it says x86_64... [01:38] then you've got a 64-bit system [01:38] ok thx Myrtti [01:38] i686 is 32bit [01:39] I have also compared the output of ifconfig -a and netstal -lptn on a working VM (debian) and the problem VM.. they seem equivalent to me [01:40] same host and vbox [01:40] netstat [01:41] Okay, I can ssh out of the VBox machine [01:41] yes - me too [01:41] Now, you want to ssh in, right? [01:41] very much [01:42] I am in [01:42] I haven't even put a passphrase into the vm [01:42] firewall blocking the ip? [01:43] I can ssh both directions without changing any defaults [01:43] yes, I also.. on other VMs [01:43] but not this one.. for some unknown reason [01:43] I just confirmed that I can ssh in and out, on a Debian VM with the same host [01:44] No messages about why it isn't going in? [01:45] have you tried telneting into port 22? [01:45] nmap shows port 22 as open on the XUbuntu guest.. [01:45] telnet.. trying now [01:46] what should I type into telnet? [01:47] I get SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-6ubuntu2 [01:47] from telnet addr 22 [01:47] telnet hostname.or.address sshport ( telnet 192.168.0.foo 22 ) [01:47] right - after that [01:48] what output did you get? [01:48] I get SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-6ubuntu2 [01:48] in that case, the ssh server does answer [01:50] http://paste.debian.net/65558/ [01:50] how exactly are you trying to connect to it with ssh? you are aware that Ubuntu doesn't have a root password and by default ssh login by root is of course disabled? [01:51] its a network issue somehow Myrtti [01:51] it indeed is [01:51] .. so I am told by others [01:51] I can connect to other VMs on this host fine [01:51] it is the XUbuntu one, this one, that fails [01:54] I tried 4 of the 5 network cards supplied bu VirtualBox.. same response [01:54] I have also compared the output of ifconfig -a and netstal -lptn on a working VM (debian) and the problem VM.. they seem equivalent to me [01:57] I didn't have to change /etc/network/interfaces in my vm to ssh into it [01:58] and you said VBox on irc checked this out too? [01:58] the vbox people could find nothing wrong [01:58] Tried using a different ip address in the vm? [01:58] hmm looking at /etc/network/interfaces nw [01:58] now [01:58] shouldn't matter. The other vm used the ip, right? [01:59] can you say that in a differnt way? [01:59] You used the same ip address in the vm that worked and this one? [02:00] no - I let dhcp assign it [02:00] so they were differnt [02:00] I find it odd that this XUbuntu network/interfaces defines *only* the lo (loopback) and nothing else [02:00] .. its 2 lines [02:01] auto lo \n iface lo inet loopback [02:01] thats it [02:01] Yes, if you use dhcp, network manager handles everything [02:01] As long as you don't manually change the interface file, it works [02:02] Or does it? [02:02] I use static IP addresses, so I manually fill in /etc/network/interfaces with the information [02:02] Myrtti: could that be the problem here? [02:02] linux gurus from my user gourp built this setup on top of XUbuntu.. it has tons of things in there and correct [02:03] this is the one thing I am having problems with [02:03] I dont follow most of what they talk about [02:03] I am willing to try a manual IP address or whatever.. [02:04] Can you ping the vbox from outside of it? [02:04] yes definitely.. nmap shows port 80 and 22 open [02:04] but does ping work? [02:04] oh trying [02:05] yes.. 0.5 ms ping :-) [02:05] crap [02:05] The only thing I can come up with is to try a manual ip address [02:05] ok trying charlie-tca [02:07] Hey, what is in /etc/hosts.deny ? [02:10] hi charlie-tca I followed a recipe for changing /etc/network/interfaces and it worked fine.. afer networking restart I got the static IP, can ssh out to another machine.. ssh back in.. fails int he same way :-( [02:10] looking [02:11] darkblue_B: what is the fail message? [02:12] I have seen only two error msgs.. this one is 'Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer' [02:12] hosts.deny appears to be stock - 100% commented out [02:18] heya, that may be a stupid question...but how can I drag a "terminal" icon to my taskbar? [02:18] Can not do that in xubuntu [02:18] o.O [02:18] vn_: you will need to create a launcher on the panel, and add terminal [02:19] ok thanks [02:20] darkblue_B: uninstall and reinstall openssh-server? [02:20] ok trying [02:20] with a restart in between [02:21] and whats the command for that "terminal" [02:21] vn_: xfce4-terminal [02:21] ok tks [02:25] back to GUI after years of CLI aint easy ehe [02:27] what would be the xfce equivalent of krdc? [02:27] I don't know. What is krdc? [02:28] remote desktop client [02:28] theres one for ssh and vnc but not rdp [02:28] remote desktop viewer? in Applications -> Networking [02:29] OOOOOHHHHHHH that worked [02:29] doesnt do rdp [02:29] that was a lot of trying [02:29] Yes it was [02:29] darkblue_B: but you got it, right? [02:29] yes, I am in [02:30] great [02:30] thx very much for your patience charlie-tca [02:30] I tried so many things [02:30] you are very welcome. [02:31] vn_: You could use krdp [02:31] isnt that going to install 50348203 deps? [02:31] yup [02:32] I'd like to avoid that [02:32] what about xrdp [02:32] should have almost everything it needs already installed [02:33] gonna try that one tks [02:33] You are welcome [02:41] I'm having an issue here maybe one of you geniuses can help me... [02:41] Unable to connect : java.security.AccessControlException : access denied (java.net.SocketPermission irc.freenode.net resolve) [02:41] is that the problem? [02:42] yup [02:42] I have an applet running on my site [02:42] can u see if you have the same problem? [02:42] what applet? [02:42] pjirc [02:43] is that a plugin for Pidgin or a separate iirc prog? [02:44] just a java applet for pjirc [02:44] see I didn't have the problem at first now it's starting up [02:45] ah ha [02:45] something simple [02:45] I'm an idiot [02:45] lol [02:45] nm I figured out why [02:46] challman: did it work for you? [02:46] i saw your link and browsed the site. what is it for? [02:49] It's just a central location where people can get network security tools, distributions and read different e-books related to computer networks, voip, servers, programming, the works [02:49] discuss whatever. programming, exploits, network security, help each other out with problems. [02:49] Pfff if it works the way I want [02:50] nice [02:50] I have a ton of pdf files and I'm converting older txt files to nicer pdf format [02:51] i'll have to bookmark it then ;) [02:51] phrack magazine e-zines, red hat server e-books, VoIP ebooks, cisco certs, assembly language, php, c, C++ all of it [02:52] I can't really put up the windows distro's to the public [02:52] as you can see all of the windows distros I had to password protect, but there are some more distros that people might now know about. [02:52] such as linux for dreamcast, backtrack4, and openvms/vax [02:53] u should get really good speeds since nobody knows about my site [02:54] cisco certs? hmmmmmm [02:54] <<< network engineer [02:54] yeah I have a ton of them [02:54] I just haven't put them online yet [02:56] is this a personal hoby? professional interest? what? [02:56] just to give back [02:57] Cisco ASA, Cisco area application services, deploying and troubleshooting, wireless lan troubleshooting, cisco IOS xr fundametnals [02:58] cisco router and switch forensics, advanced internetworking guide and tons more. no popups no bullcrap [02:59] well, I gotta get back to work [02:59] sweet. I just started studying for my CCNP and CCDP [03:00] I might have some info for you on that [03:00] I'm disabled so I have all day to do things [03:00] i'll keep looking. do I create an account or what? [03:01] should I add a cisco section to my docs page? [03:01] would be nice [03:01] well I'll give you my e-mail. I haven't setup anything yet. This is a pretty big project [03:02] thanks!! [03:02] just give me your e-mail and I'll add you an account or something [03:04] where do I do is I want vlc instead of another app to open when I wanna play a dvd? [03:04] challman: if you want there are some files available under the network tools section. [03:05] hexdump_: i saw that. good stuff too [03:05] challman: I allow people to browse directories and I have everything backed up so if somebody feels the need to hack it, it will be back up within minutes [03:06] I would hope people wouldn't want to because I'm trying to help our community [03:07] hexdump_: ppl hack for all sorts of reasons. beware [03:08] challman: I know I've done it, but I never felt the need to destroy anything or had the reason. [03:09] challman: pff and some people had their bank accounts, e-mail login/passwords and credit cards on their computer. [03:09] hexdump_: there are plenty of malicious ppl in this world [03:09] one person had their motorcycle license and another scanned all four of their credit cards onto their computer?! [03:10] hexdump_: ppl who insecurely store personal info on the computer almost deserve what they get, poor ignorant bastards. I use the latest encryption and complex passwords for all my info [03:10] another couple (husband/wife) had typed up an entire spreadsheet of every login/password they had credit cards pins/bank account l/p e-mail l/p all on their computer. [03:10] yeah encrypt your info like 3 or 4 times over [03:11] encrypt the encryption then encrypt that encryption, then do it again. [03:11] spoof your mac go through multiple routers/firewalls [03:11] use a proxy as well [03:12] hexdump_: lol, i use keepassx with AES 256 for my personal data [03:12] make your pc a firewall/router spoof its mac and connect it to a router. connect your primary pc to your other pc that's connected to your router thats connected to the net [03:12] now what heh heh [03:12] ? [03:13] j/k [03:13] yeah isn't there 512 encryption ? [03:13] hexdump_: possibly, but i haven't seen it yet [03:13] hexdump_: when it comes out, i'll switch immediately ;) [03:14] hexdump_: the bigger the key, the more likely you'll slow someone down [03:14] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA [03:14] 2048 encryption. [03:15] hexdump_: AES is only up to 256 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard [03:15] i know [03:16] that's interesting stuph too maybe I'll add a section in docs for that [03:16] what do you think? [03:16] I'll also have some historical texts presenting the olden days of phreaking and its transition into VoIP [03:17] if you're into sort of modern day phreaking check out Warvox on my site [03:17] hexdump_: i use 2048 bit keys for all my SSL certs too. bigger is better [03:18] yeah I'll just pull out the jaguar and crack it in a less than a second [03:19] hexdump_: jaguar? [03:19] lol j/k [03:19] ? [03:19] its the fastest super computer in the world [03:20] hexdump_: ha, haven't heard that name since Atari [03:20] used for complex algorithms and for scientists analyzing solar systems n shit like that [03:20] http://www.nccs.gov/jaguar/ [03:20] that thing would crack anything [03:20] hexdump_: well, not many have access to that power and if you do, i doubt you'd want access to my piddly info :D [03:21] I wish [03:21] man a hacker would jizz in their pants if they had access to that [03:21] hexdump_: yeah, i've read about that one [03:22] hexdump_: can't remember if its a TRUE CRAY or some Intel based bullshit [03:22] I bet that facility is locked down more than this place ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bullion_Depository [03:22] hexdump_: ah, well, it's AMD based [03:23] hexdump_: CRAY used to be an awesome hardware company. Now they just take other's parts and build their boxes [03:23] ah yeah I don't know very much about it to be honest with you. [03:23] challman: I'm taking network administration in school soon, anything I should concentrate on? [03:24] challman: btw I'm adding a bunch of CCNP stuff for you [03:24] challman: and ccdp [03:25] brb [03:25] hexdump_: hmmm, network admin can have many definitions. workstation/server admin, unix, and (true) network hardware router/switch/wireless admin. what are you going after? [03:26] challman: I really would like to concentrate on anything that has to do with network security, so I'm guessing pretty much everything [03:27] hexdump_: i have the most fun with packet/protocol analysis. have to understand hexadecimal and binary. obviously a good understanding of networking is required; subnetting, IPv4, IPv6, routing (nothing too complex such as BGP/MPLS, OSPF) basics, etc. [03:27] yeah I understand hex and binary [03:28] hexdump_: security..... then I definitely suggest packet/protocol analysis [03:28] I'm aware of the OSI model and what operates on what level [03:28] challman: but I'm just now getting back into computers after an 8 or 9 year hiatus [03:28] hexdump_: DDOS attacks, MAC spoofing, port knocking, etc. all network layer exploits. [03:29] hexdump_: firewalls, VPN, IKE, PKE, encryption, tunneling, etc. [03:30] hexdump_: tcpdump, ssldump, wireshark.... all good tools [03:30] challman: yup I placed a few of those on my site, but I need to learn the basics again [03:30] hexdump_: btw, i'm not an expert but i know enough to be proficient at my job ;) [03:31] drferm..in vlc, the text is extremely small, but in the general system, the font size is OK, how can I correct that? [03:31] -drf [03:31] yeah I know about DOS attacks, MAC spoofing, DNS zone transfer spoofing, syn floods [03:32] challman: you know much more than I, I'm sure. [03:32] hexdump_: everyone has to start somewhere [03:32] vn-: did you try fonts in appearance? not sure if that makes any difference [03:33] challman: yup, well I gotta get back to trying to get some of these files online. privmsg me your e-mail so I can get you an account eventually. [03:33] hexdump_: that changed the general font size, but not vlc's [03:33] challman: I'll have some good info up soon. [03:34] hexdump_: done. i'll keep checking [03:34] i gotta figure out how to write a boot script to make a tmpfs to mount /var/tmp. never done that before [03:34] vn-: sorry bud I'm not even sure what program you're talking about [03:34] vlc as in VideoLAN [03:35] vlc? let me install and look [03:35] oh, sorry. i'm not in xubuntu. i'm on mepis currently. sorry [03:35] np [03:36] challman: I don't even know what tmpfs is. It sounds like temporary filesystem. I've only had linux for 3 weeks [03:36] vn-: I use pms-linux for my media server and serve movies n shit to my ps3 [03:37] sorry guys I gotta run [03:38] yeah, it's a temp filesystem [03:40] challman: before I leave, how is mepis? [03:41] challman: is it worth adding to my distro section? [03:46] hexdump_: [03:46] hexdump_: sorry, are you there? [03:46] challman: yeah [03:46] hexdump_: i was hacking on my boot script. i think i got it working. time to do a reboot and see :D ..... in a few minutes [03:47] challman: I've added sunos, and vms/vax also centos [03:47] hexdump_: yes, I prefer Mepis when I'm in a KDE mood [03:47] hope it works I'll cross my fingers [03:47] Suse looks nice [03:47] really nice [03:48] hexdump_: I've tried KDE on ubuntu, suse, gentoo/sabayon, etc... None seemed to work natively as KDE on Mepis. I guess it's because Mepis is truely debian based and I'm biased to debian [03:48] aha, found out [03:48] hexdump_: yes, suse looks like, but I couldn't get over how the underlying OS isn't like debian [03:48] challman: I'll add debian and mepis [03:48] vlc had an option to set the interface to the video size...and im on the tv... [03:49] challman: only takes me like 3 minutes to download a gig [03:49] hexdump_: I liked sabayon. nice faste gentoo based distros but it doesn't use apt-get or synaptic [03:49] hexdump_: ? what kinda bandwith you have? OC-3? [03:49] yeah i really like apt-get. much better than urpmi [03:49] challman: cable. road runner turbo boost [03:50] challman: I'm getting road runner extreme soon as it hits our area [03:50] 50mbps cable [03:50] hexdump_: nice. I've got four girls, a house, etc. so other priorities come before faster internet :) [03:51] challman: well when I setup a proxy maybe I can allow you to browse through me [03:51] hexdump_: you running torrent as well? [03:51] challman: not right now just a webserver. I'm not quite fast enough yet [03:52] challman: off a good server I get like 3.5mb/sec [03:52] hexdump_: just be careful what you host. doesn't want the RIAA/MPAA/whatever-AA after you [03:53] challman: yeah that's why all my "backups" are password protected. [03:53] challman: try to download a windows distro on my distro section [03:53] hexdump_: now? as in M$ ? [03:53] challman: what is the newest mepis release? is it 8.5.00? [03:53] challman: yeah M$ [03:54] hexdump_: 8.5 is the latest beta, that I'm running [03:54] what is rc3? [03:54] hexdump_: it's stable. have the newer KDE..... release candidate 3 [03:55] hexdump_: win7 password protected..... (I've got an old Win7 RC VM that I need a new key for) :P [03:55] oh acronyms acronyms acronyms. computers = acronym insanity [03:55] hexdump_: lol, yes just another TLA (three letter acronym). if you go into networking, OMG the TLA's :D [03:56] hah TLA [03:57] right, well my BLT drive on my computer just went AWOL, and I've got a big [03:57] project due tomorrow for Mr. Kawasaki [03:57] and if I don't get it in he's going to ask me to commit Harry Carry [03:57] hexdump_: TCP/IP, UDP, BGP, EIGRP, 802.1q, 802.11n, MPLS, OUI, etc., etc. [03:57] hexdump_: no worries. good luck. i think it's almost time to reboot and see the mayhem ensue from my new script [03:58] ICMP, FTP, SFTP, HTTP, HTML, XTML, SSL, SSH, PPOE, PPP, VoIP, TCP/IP, UDP, NFS, FAT, NTFS [03:58] lol on and on [03:58] do you want that? [03:58] hexdump_: ad infinitum [03:58] hexdump_: doesn't work without a key, right? [04:00] yes [06:08] when xubuntu 10.04 is going to be released ?, is there beta version ? [06:23] oh [06:24] onaogh: it's available [06:24] onaogh: you can update it from your current version [06:25] onaogh: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2 [06:38] hexdump_, which one is better for my thinkpad x61, ubuntu or xubuntu ? [06:41] hexdump_, if i install the beta version, then when the it is released, the beta will be updated to the release version ? [06:45] that x61..has plenty of resources for either...its just that xubuntu is zippier [08:20] Does somebody of you have experience with installing linux directly on a SD card? I just installed it, but it seems that the used SD card is too slow or something [08:21] if it's too slow it's just slow [08:21] where does it stop? [08:22] it's not really stopping. xfce is starting after a minute or so and I can work with the system but the system freezes for some seconds from time to time [08:22] nothing serious and i will stick with it, but I though I ask here if anyone have tried this with xubuntu [09:54] hi, in 9.10 there is a nice volume manager in the panel, very complete. but i installed beta1 of lucid's and got back to a simple applet triggering xfce4-mixer. how can i get the sounds preference thing from 9.10 in 10.04? [09:55] mnemoc, lucid support in #ubuntu+1 [09:56] bazhang: ok [09:56] no #xubuntu+1 :( [09:56] mnemoc: nothing changed, so you probably installed something to get this "nice volume manager" [09:58] mr_pouit: it's there right after installing xubuntu/9.10 ... it's not the classic "mixer" applet from xfce. on right button it says "mute; sound preferences" only [09:59] aha! it's the notification area, not an applet [10:00] gnome-volume-control [10:00] funny i got that gnome thing in my xubuntu installtion [10:01] well, no more noise. thanks! [10:49] btw, does anybody know if we're gonna have proper gdmsetup in lucid? [10:50] Sysi, well there is gdm2setup .. [10:50] other than current with two buttons? [10:51] google for gdm2setup [10:54] looking good, finally [10:54] :) [10:54] ;:np [10:54] bbl [10:56] just waiting for xdmcp [12:06] running xubuntu 9.10... in networkmanagerapplet, why would the "add" button under the VPN tab be disabled? [12:34] aaahhhhh just need to install the network-manager-xyz plugin's... === nikolam_ is now known as nikolam [15:53] * dvdm__ hold the breath in his left lung [18:37] Hi [18:38] I'm having some problems with mounting a USB harddisk read-writable, using /etc/fstab [18:40] I'm using the following line: '/dev/sdb1 /media/lacie vfat rw,users 0 0' [18:40] anyone know what's wrong with it? [20:57] where do i find the files for the various styles that show up in Settings -> Appearance? & any idea where i need to put my modified versions in ~ ? [20:59] !themes [20:59] Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy [20:59] !xfcethemes [21:00] !xfce_themes [21:02] I think you can put them in ~/.local/themes [21:03] or it might be ~/.themes [21:43] k, ty :) [21:59] is there any support for the Compaq Presario R3000's Multi Card reader in xubuntu 9.10? [22:02] all i know it's a Texas Instruments Based Chipset [22:02] (just need SD access ) [22:02] seems to find stuff in ~/.themes & not ~/.local/themes ... just messing around with settings atm, trying to figure out which is the inactive window title text [22:05] ;-; just ran lspci.. an di think ist teh Bad Chipset... its the TI PCI1620 Rev 01 Chipset [23:14] hmm... anybody that's using the gtk2-engines-xfce able to get the background/foreground colors of the inactive window's title bar to change? i can't seem to get anything other than dark grey on black [23:19] mine are light grey using raleigh [23:24] weird... what's the contents of your /usr/share/themes/Raleigh/gtk-2.0/gtkrc ? mine is basically just a comment stating it's the default theme if no other theme is selected... which makes me wonder how it's getting any colors [23:24] oops, that isn't right. Mine are light grey using G2 [23:25] Raleigh is the appearance theme I use [23:25] using g2? [23:26] gtk2? [23:26] Window Manager -> Style [23:26] G2 [23:26] that controls the windows [23:26] appearance controls the panels [23:27] Which is really light grey [23:28] aha! i was using... um, er... [23:28] Albatross maybe? [23:28] it is very confusing to try to find how to change theme items, huh? [23:28] yup [23:28] default to Albatross [23:29] Is this the correct IRC channel for support for Gnome based ubuntu? [23:29] nope [23:29] gnome based is #ubuntu [23:29] irqsRFun: that would be #ubuntu [23:29] this is for xfce :) [23:30] actually, xfce based Xubuntu [23:30] hmm... guess i need to mess around with modifying the window manager styles as well then [23:30] thanks [23:30] no problem [23:32] i've been using xfce since kde4 & intrepid made my desktop completely unstable... & even though kde4 has probably gotten over that, last i looked i don't want to go back to kde [23:33] I only been using it since 6.06 [23:37] i still have my 6.06 ubuntu disk from linux format around somewhere... saw it the other day... made me try gnome again after which i promptly installed kde followed by all the others & an uninstall of gnome [23:44]