[01:15] <darkblue_B> hi all- our user gorup has made a LiveDVD with XUbuntu as a base.. its working really well.. 9.10 I think.. but one thing.. I cannot ssh in when it is running as a VM. I installed openssh-server, and can ssh out.. the connection closed immediately when I try.. what to do? what to check?
[01:19] <darkblue_B> yes, 9.10
[01:31] <charlie-tca> did you install openssh-server?
[01:31] <charlie-tca> It might be the vm is blocking ssh in also. VBox does that if everything is not set up just right
[01:35] <darkblue_B> hi charlie-tca
[01:35] <darkblue_B> I did install openssh-server
[01:35] <darkblue_B> I have been on the vbox channel, and no one could identify anything wrong with my setup
[01:36] <darkblue_B> nmap shows port 22 open
[01:36] <charlie-tca> just a minute
[01:36] <charlie-tca> 64 or 32 bit?
[01:37] <darkblue_B> linux generic i686
[01:37] <charlie-tca> let me bring up vbox
[01:37] <darkblue_B> uname -a
[01:37] <darkblue_B> doesnt say 64bit
[01:37] <charlie-tca> 686 is 32bit
[01:37] <charlie-tca> I'm pulling up a 9.10 VBox machine
[01:38] <darkblue_B> ok nice
[01:38] <charlie-tca> bridged adapter on eth0
[01:38] <darkblue_B> y
[01:38] <Myrtti> uname -m
[01:38] <Myrtti> if it says x86_64...
[01:38] <Myrtti> then you've got a 64-bit system
[01:38] <darkblue_B> ok thx Myrtti
[01:38] <darkblue_B> i686 is 32bit
[01:39] <darkblue_B> I have also compared the output of ifconfig -a and netstal -lptn on a working VM (debian) and the problem VM.. they seem equivalent to me
[01:40] <darkblue_B> same host and vbox
[01:40] <darkblue_B> netstat
[01:41] <charlie-tca> Okay, I can ssh out of the VBox machine
[01:41] <darkblue_B> yes - me too
[01:41] <charlie-tca> Now, you want to ssh in, right?
[01:41] <darkblue_B> very much
[01:42] <charlie-tca> I am in
[01:42] <charlie-tca> I haven't even put a passphrase into the vm
[01:42] <charlie-tca> firewall blocking the ip?
[01:43] <charlie-tca> I can ssh both directions without changing any defaults
[01:43] <darkblue_B> yes, I also.. on other VMs
[01:43] <darkblue_B> but not this one.. for some unknown reason
[01:43] <darkblue_B> I just confirmed that I can ssh in and out, on a Debian VM with the same host
[01:44] <charlie-tca> No messages about why it isn't going in?
[01:45] <Myrtti> have you tried telneting into port 22?
[01:45] <darkblue_B> nmap shows port 22 as open on the XUbuntu guest..
[01:45] <darkblue_B> telnet.. trying now
[01:46] <darkblue_B> what should I type into telnet?
[01:47] <darkblue_B> I get  SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-6ubuntu2
[01:47] <darkblue_B> from telnet addr 22
[01:47] <Myrtti> telnet hostname.or.address sshport ( telnet 192.168.0.foo 22 )
[01:47] <darkblue_B> right - after that
[01:48] <Myrtti> what output did you get?
[01:48] <darkblue_B> I get  SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-6ubuntu2
[01:48] <Myrtti> in that case, the ssh server does answer
[01:50] <darkblue_B> http://paste.debian.net/65558/
[01:50] <Myrtti> how exactly are you trying to connect to it with ssh? you are aware that Ubuntu doesn't have a root password and by default ssh login by root is of course disabled?
[01:51] <darkblue_B> its a network issue somehow Myrtti
[01:51] <Myrtti> it indeed is
[01:51] <darkblue_B> .. so I am told by others
[01:51] <darkblue_B> I can connect to other VMs on this host fine
[01:51] <darkblue_B> it is the XUbuntu one, this one, that fails
[01:54] <darkblue_B> I tried 4 of the 5 network cards supplied bu VirtualBox.. same response
[01:54] <darkblue_B> I have also compared the output of ifconfig -a and netstal -lptn on a working VM (debian) and the problem VM.. they seem equivalent to me
[01:57] <charlie-tca> I didn't have to change /etc/network/interfaces in my vm to ssh into it
[01:58] <charlie-tca> and you said VBox on irc checked this out too?
[01:58] <darkblue_B> the vbox people could find nothing wrong
[01:58] <charlie-tca> Tried using a different ip address in the vm?
[01:58] <darkblue_B> hmm looking at /etc/network/interfaces nw
[01:58] <darkblue_B> now
[01:58] <charlie-tca> shouldn't matter. The other vm used the ip, right?
[01:59] <darkblue_B> can you say that in a differnt way?
[01:59] <charlie-tca> You used the same ip address in the vm that worked and this one?
[02:00] <darkblue_B> no - I let dhcp assign it
[02:00] <darkblue_B> so they were differnt
[02:00] <darkblue_B> I find it odd that this XUbuntu network/interfaces defines *only* the lo (loopback) and nothing else
[02:00] <darkblue_B> .. its 2 lines
[02:01] <darkblue_B> auto lo \n iface lo inet loopback
[02:01] <darkblue_B> thats it
[02:01] <charlie-tca> Yes, if you use dhcp, network manager handles everything
[02:01] <charlie-tca> As long as you don't manually change the interface file, it works
[02:02] <charlie-tca> Or does it?
[02:02] <charlie-tca> I use static IP addresses, so I manually fill in /etc/network/interfaces with the information
[02:02] <charlie-tca> Myrtti: could that be the problem here?
[02:02] <darkblue_B> linux gurus from my user gourp built this setup on top of XUbuntu.. it has tons of things in there and correct
[02:03] <darkblue_B> this is the one thing I am having problems with
[02:03] <darkblue_B> I dont follow most of what they talk about
[02:03] <darkblue_B> I am willing to try a manual IP address or whatever..
[02:04] <charlie-tca> Can you ping the vbox from outside of it?
[02:04] <darkblue_B> yes definitely.. nmap shows port 80 and 22 open
[02:04] <charlie-tca> but does ping work?
[02:04] <darkblue_B> oh trying
[02:05] <darkblue_B> yes.. 0.5 ms ping :-)
[02:05] <charlie-tca> crap
[02:05] <charlie-tca> The only thing I can come up with is to try a manual ip address
[02:05] <darkblue_B> ok trying charlie-tca
[02:07] <charlie-tca> Hey, what is in /etc/hosts.deny ?
[02:10] <darkblue_B> hi charlie-tca I followed a recipe for changing /etc/network/interfaces and it worked fine.. afer networking restart I got the static IP, can ssh out to another machine.. ssh back in.. fails int he same way :-(
[02:10] <darkblue_B> looking
[02:11] <charlie-tca> darkblue_B: what is the fail message?
[02:12] <darkblue_B> I have seen only two error msgs.. this one is 'Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer'
[02:12] <darkblue_B> hosts.deny appears to be stock - 100% commented out
[02:18] <vn_> heya, that may be a stupid question...but how can I drag a "terminal" icon to my taskbar?
[02:18] <charlie-tca> Can not do that in xubuntu
[02:18] <vn_> o.O
[02:18] <charlie-tca> vn_: you will need to create a launcher on the panel, and add terminal
[02:19] <vn_> ok thanks
[02:20] <charlie-tca> darkblue_B: uninstall and reinstall openssh-server?
[02:20] <darkblue_B> ok trying
[02:20] <charlie-tca> with a restart in between
[02:21] <vn_> and whats the command for that "terminal"
[02:21] <charlie-tca> vn_: xfce4-terminal
[02:21] <vn_> ok tks
[02:25] <vn_> back to GUI after years of CLI aint easy ehe
[02:27] <vn_> what would be the xfce equivalent of krdc?
[02:27] <charlie-tca> I don't know. What is krdc?
[02:28] <vn_> remote desktop client
[02:28] <vn_> theres one for ssh and vnc but not rdp
[02:28] <charlie-tca> remote desktop viewer? in Applications -> Networking
[02:29] <darkblue_B> OOOOOHHHHHHH that worked
[02:29] <vn_> doesnt do rdp
[02:29] <darkblue_B> that was a lot of trying
[02:29] <charlie-tca> Yes it was
[02:29] <charlie-tca> darkblue_B: but you got it, right?
[02:29] <darkblue_B> yes, I am in
[02:30] <charlie-tca> great
[02:30] <darkblue_B> thx very much for your patience charlie-tca
[02:30] <darkblue_B> I tried so many things
[02:30] <charlie-tca> you are very welcome.
[02:31] <charlie-tca> vn_: You could use krdp
[02:31] <vn_> isnt that going to install 50348203 deps?
[02:31] <charlie-tca> yup
[02:32] <vn_> I'd like to avoid that
[02:32] <charlie-tca> what about xrdp
[02:32] <charlie-tca> should have almost everything it needs already installed
[02:33] <vn_> gonna try that one tks
[02:33] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[02:41] <hexdump_> I'm having an issue here maybe one of you geniuses can help me...
[02:41] <hexdump_> Unable to connect : java.security.AccessControlException : access denied (java.net.SocketPermission irc.freenode.net resolve)
[02:41] <challman> is that the problem?
[02:42] <hexdump_> yup
[02:42] <hexdump_> I have an applet running on my site
[02:42] <hexdump_> can u see if you have the same problem?
[02:42] <challman> what applet?
[02:42] <hexdump_> pjirc
[02:43] <challman> is that a plugin for Pidgin or a separate iirc prog?
[02:44] <hexdump_> just a java applet for pjirc
[02:44] <hexdump_> see I didn't have the problem at first now it's starting up
[02:45] <hexdump_> ah ha
[02:45] <hexdump_> something simple
[02:45] <hexdump_> I'm an idiot
[02:45] <hexdump_> lol
[02:45] <hexdump_> nm I figured out why
[02:46] <hexdump_> challman:  did it work for you?
[02:46] <challman> i saw your link and browsed the site. what is it for?
[02:49] <hexdump_> It's just a central location where people can get network security tools, distributions and read different e-books related to computer networks, voip, servers, programming, the works
[02:49] <hexdump_> discuss whatever.  programming, exploits, network security, help each other out with problems.
[02:49] <hexdump_> Pfff if it works the way I want
[02:50] <challman> nice
[02:50] <hexdump_> I have a ton of pdf files and I'm converting older txt files to nicer pdf format
[02:51] <challman> i'll have to bookmark it then ;)
[02:51] <hexdump_> phrack magazine e-zines, red hat server e-books, VoIP ebooks, cisco certs, assembly language, php, c, C++ all of it
[02:52] <hexdump_> I can't really put up the windows distro's to the public
[02:52] <hexdump_> as you can see all of the windows distros I had to password protect, but there are some more distros that people might now know about.
[02:52] <hexdump_> such as linux for dreamcast, backtrack4, and openvms/vax
[02:53] <hexdump_> u should get really good speeds since nobody knows about my site
[02:54] <challman> cisco certs?   hmmmmmm
[02:54] <challman> <<< network engineer
[02:54] <hexdump_> yeah I have a ton of them
[02:54] <hexdump_> I just haven't put them online yet
[02:56] <challman> is this a personal hoby? professional interest? what?
[02:56] <hexdump_> just to give back
[02:57] <hexdump_> Cisco ASA, Cisco area application services, deploying and troubleshooting, wireless lan troubleshooting, cisco IOS xr fundametnals
[02:58] <hexdump_> cisco router and switch forensics, advanced internetworking guide and tons more.  no popups no bullcrap
[02:59] <hexdump_> well, I gotta get back to work
[02:59] <challman> sweet. I just started studying for my CCNP and CCDP
[03:00] <hexdump_> I might have some info for you on that
[03:00] <hexdump_> I'm disabled so I have all day to do things
[03:00] <challman> i'll keep looking. do I create an account or what?
[03:01] <hexdump_> should I add a cisco section to my docs page?
[03:01] <challman> would be nice
[03:01] <hexdump_> well I'll give you my e-mail.  I haven't setup anything yet.  This is a pretty big project
[03:02] <challman> thanks!!
[03:02] <hexdump_> just give me your e-mail and I'll add you an account or something
[03:04] <vn-> where do I do is I want vlc instead of another app to open when I wanna play a dvd?
[03:04] <hexdump_> challman:  if you want there are some files available under the network tools section.
[03:05] <challman> hexdump_: i saw that. good stuff too
[03:05] <hexdump_> challman:  I allow people to browse directories and I have everything backed up so if somebody feels the need to hack it, it will be back up within minutes
[03:06] <hexdump_> I would hope people wouldn't want to because I'm trying to help our community
[03:07] <challman> hexdump_: ppl hack for all sorts of reasons. beware
[03:08] <hexdump_> challman:  I know I've done it, but I never felt the need to destroy anything or had the reason.
[03:09] <hexdump_> challman:  pff and some people had their bank accounts, e-mail login/passwords and credit cards on their computer.
[03:09] <challman> hexdump_: there are plenty of malicious ppl in this world
[03:09] <hexdump_> one person had their motorcycle license and another scanned all four of their credit cards onto their computer?!
[03:10] <challman> hexdump_: ppl who insecurely store personal info on the computer almost deserve what they get, poor ignorant bastards. I use the latest encryption and complex passwords for all my info
[03:10] <hexdump_> another couple (husband/wife) had typed up an entire spreadsheet of every login/password they had credit cards pins/bank account l/p e-mail l/p all on their computer.
[03:10] <hexdump_> yeah encrypt your info like 3 or 4 times over
[03:11] <hexdump_> encrypt the encryption then encrypt that encryption, then do it again.
[03:11] <hexdump_> spoof your mac go through multiple routers/firewalls
[03:11] <hexdump_> use a proxy as well
[03:12] <challman> hexdump_: lol, i use keepassx with AES 256 for my personal data
[03:12] <hexdump_> make your pc a firewall/router spoof its mac and connect it to a router.  connect your primary pc to your other pc that's connected to your router thats connected to the net
[03:12] <hexdump_> now what heh heh
[03:12] <challman> ?
[03:13] <hexdump_> j/k
[03:13] <hexdump_> yeah isn't there 512 encryption ?
[03:13] <challman> hexdump_: possibly, but i haven't seen it yet
[03:13] <challman> hexdump_: when it comes out, i'll switch immediately ;)
[03:14] <challman> hexdump_: the bigger the key, the more likely you'll slow someone down
[03:14] <hexdump_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA
[03:14] <hexdump_> 2048 encryption.
[03:15] <challman> hexdump_: AES is only up to 256  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard
[03:15] <hexdump_> i know
[03:16] <hexdump_> that's interesting stuph too maybe I'll add a section in docs for that
[03:16] <hexdump_> what do you think?
[03:16] <hexdump_> I'll also have some historical texts presenting the olden days of phreaking and its transition into VoIP
[03:17] <hexdump_> if you're into sort of modern day phreaking check out Warvox on my site
[03:17] <challman> hexdump_: i use 2048 bit keys for all my SSL certs too. bigger is better
[03:18] <hexdump_> yeah I'll just pull out the jaguar and crack it in a less than a second
[03:19] <challman> hexdump_: jaguar?
[03:19] <hexdump_> lol j/k
[03:19] <challman> ?
[03:19] <hexdump_> its the fastest super computer in the world
[03:20] <challman> hexdump_: ha, haven't heard that name since Atari
[03:20] <hexdump_> used for complex algorithms and for scientists analyzing solar systems n shit like that
[03:20] <hexdump_> http://www.nccs.gov/jaguar/
[03:20] <hexdump_> that thing would crack anything
[03:20] <challman> hexdump_: well, not many have access to that power and if you do, i doubt you'd want access to my piddly info :D
[03:21] <hexdump_> I wish
[03:21] <hexdump_> man a hacker would jizz in their pants if they had access to that
[03:21] <challman> hexdump_: yeah, i've read about that one
[03:22] <challman> hexdump_:  can't remember if its a TRUE CRAY or some Intel based bullshit
[03:22] <hexdump_> I bet that facility is locked down more than this place ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bullion_Depository
[03:22] <challman> hexdump_: ah, well, it's AMD based
[03:23] <challman> hexdump_: CRAY used to be an awesome hardware company. Now they just take other's parts and build their boxes
[03:23] <hexdump_> ah yeah I don't know very much about it to be honest with you.
[03:23] <hexdump_> challman:  I'm taking network administration in school soon, anything I should concentrate on?
[03:24] <hexdump_> challman:  btw I'm adding a bunch of CCNP stuff for you
[03:24] <hexdump_> challman: and ccdp
[03:25] <hexdump_> brb
[03:25] <challman> hexdump_: hmmm, network admin can have many definitions. workstation/server admin, unix, and (true) network hardware router/switch/wireless admin. what are you going after?
[03:26] <hexdump_> challman:  I really would like to concentrate on anything that has to do with network security, so I'm guessing pretty much everything
[03:27] <challman> hexdump_: i have the most fun with packet/protocol analysis. have to understand hexadecimal and binary. obviously a good understanding of networking is required; subnetting, IPv4, IPv6, routing (nothing too complex such as BGP/MPLS, OSPF) basics, etc.
[03:27] <hexdump_> yeah I understand hex and binary
[03:28] <challman> hexdump_: security..... then I definitely suggest packet/protocol analysis
[03:28] <hexdump_> I'm aware of the OSI model and what operates on what level
[03:28] <hexdump_> challman:  but I'm just now getting back into computers after an 8 or 9 year hiatus
[03:28] <challman> hexdump_: DDOS attacks, MAC spoofing, port knocking, etc. all network layer exploits.
[03:29] <challman> hexdump_: firewalls, VPN, IKE, PKE, encryption, tunneling, etc.
[03:30] <challman> hexdump_: tcpdump, ssldump, wireshark.... all good tools
[03:30] <hexdump_> challman:  yup I placed a few of those on my site, but I need to learn the basics again
[03:30] <challman> hexdump_: btw, i'm not an expert but i know enough to be proficient at my job ;)
[03:31] <vn-> drferm..in vlc, the text is extremely small, but in the general system, the font size is OK, how can I correct that?
[03:31] <vn-> -drf
[03:31] <hexdump_> yeah I know about DOS attacks, MAC spoofing, DNS zone transfer spoofing, syn floods
[03:32] <hexdump_> challman:  you know much more than I, I'm sure.
[03:32] <challman> hexdump_: everyone has to start somewhere
[03:32] <hexdump_> vn-: did you try fonts in appearance?  not sure if that makes any difference
[03:33] <hexdump_> challman:  yup, well I gotta get back to trying to get some of these files online.  privmsg me your e-mail so I can get you an account eventually.
[03:33] <vn-> hexdump_: that changed the general font size, but not vlc's
[03:33] <hexdump_> challman:  I'll have some good info up soon.
[03:34] <challman> hexdump_: done. i'll keep checking
[03:34] <challman> i gotta figure out how to write a boot script to make a tmpfs to mount /var/tmp. never done that before
[03:34] <hexdump_> vn-:  sorry bud I'm not even sure what program you're talking about
[03:34] <vn-> vlc as in VideoLAN
[03:35] <challman> vlc? let me install and look
[03:35] <challman> oh, sorry. i'm not in xubuntu. i'm on mepis currently. sorry
[03:35] <vn-> np
[03:36] <hexdump_> challman:  I don't even know what tmpfs is.  It sounds like temporary filesystem.  I've only had linux for 3 weeks
[03:36] <hexdump_> vn-:  I use pms-linux for my media server and serve movies n shit to my ps3
[03:37] <hexdump_> sorry guys I gotta run
[03:38] <challman> yeah, it's a temp filesystem
[03:40] <hexdump_> challman:  before I leave, how is mepis?
[03:41] <hexdump_> challman:  is it worth adding to my distro section?
[03:46] <challman> hexdump_:
[03:46] <challman> hexdump_: sorry, are you there?
[03:46] <hexdump_> challman:  yeah
[03:46] <challman> hexdump_: i was hacking on my boot script. i think i got it working. time to do a reboot and see :D ..... in a few minutes
[03:47] <hexdump_> challman:  I've added sunos, and vms/vax also centos
[03:47] <challman> hexdump_: yes, I prefer Mepis when I'm in a KDE mood
[03:47] <hexdump_> hope it works I'll cross my fingers
[03:47] <hexdump_> Suse looks nice
[03:47] <hexdump_> really nice
[03:48] <challman> hexdump_: I've tried KDE on ubuntu, suse, gentoo/sabayon, etc...  None seemed to work natively as KDE on Mepis. I guess it's because Mepis is truely debian based and I'm biased to debian
[03:48] <vn-> aha, found out
[03:48] <challman> hexdump_: yes, suse looks like, but I couldn't get over how the underlying OS isn't like debian
[03:48] <hexdump_> challman:  I'll add debian and mepis
[03:48] <vn-> vlc had an option to set the interface to the video size...and im on the tv...
[03:49] <hexdump_> challman:  only takes me like 3 minutes to download a gig
[03:49] <challman> hexdump_: I liked sabayon. nice faste gentoo based distros but it doesn't use apt-get or synaptic
[03:49] <challman> hexdump_: ? what kinda bandwith you have? OC-3?
[03:49] <hexdump_> yeah i really like apt-get.  much better than urpmi
[03:49] <hexdump_> challman:  cable.  road runner turbo boost
[03:50] <hexdump_> challman:  I'm getting road runner extreme soon as it hits our area
[03:50] <hexdump_> 50mbps cable
[03:50] <challman> hexdump_: nice. I've got four girls, a house, etc. so other priorities come before faster internet :)
[03:51] <hexdump_> challman:  well when I setup a proxy maybe I can allow you to browse through me
[03:51] <challman> hexdump_: you running torrent as well?
[03:51] <hexdump_> challman:  not right now just a webserver.  I'm not quite fast enough yet
[03:52] <hexdump_> challman:  off a good server I get like 3.5mb/sec
[03:52] <challman> hexdump_: just be careful what you host. doesn't want the RIAA/MPAA/whatever-AA after you
[03:53] <hexdump_> challman:  yeah that's why all my "backups" are password protected.
[03:53] <hexdump_> challman:  try to download a windows distro on my distro section
[03:53] <challman> hexdump_: now? as in M$ ?
[03:53] <hexdump_> challman:  what is the newest mepis release?  is it 8.5.00?
[03:53] <hexdump_> challman:  yeah M$
[03:54] <challman> hexdump_: 8.5 is the latest beta, that I'm running
[03:54] <hexdump_> what is rc3?
[03:54] <challman> hexdump_: it's stable. have the newer KDE..... release candidate 3
[03:55] <challman> hexdump_: win7 password protected..... (I've got an old Win7 RC VM that I need a new key for)  :P
[03:55] <hexdump_> oh acronyms acronyms acronyms.  computers = acronym insanity
[03:55] <challman> hexdump_: lol, yes just another TLA (three letter acronym). if you go into networking, OMG the TLA's  :D
[03:56] <hexdump_> hah TLA
[03:57] <hexdump_> right, well my BLT drive on my computer just went AWOL, and I've got a big
[03:57] <hexdump_>        project due tomorrow for Mr. Kawasaki
 and if I don't get it in he's going to ask me to commit Harry Carry
[03:57] <challman> hexdump_: TCP/IP, UDP, BGP, EIGRP, 802.1q, 802.11n, MPLS, OUI, etc., etc.
[03:57] <challman> hexdump_: no worries. good luck. i think it's almost time to reboot and see the mayhem ensue from my new script
[03:58] <hexdump_> ICMP, FTP, SFTP, HTTP, HTML, XTML, SSL, SSH, PPOE, PPP, VoIP, TCP/IP, UDP, NFS, FAT, NTFS
[03:58] <hexdump_> lol on and on
[03:58] <hexdump_> do you want that?
[03:58] <challman> hexdump_: ad infinitum
[03:58] <challman> hexdump_: doesn't work without a key, right?
[04:00] <hexdump_> yes
[06:08] <onaogh> when xubuntu 10.04 is going to be released ?, is there beta version ?
[06:23] <hexdump_> oh
[06:24] <hexdump_> onaogh:  it's available
[06:24] <hexdump_> onaogh:  you can update it from your current version
[06:25] <hexdump_> onaogh:  http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2
[06:38] <onaogh> hexdump_, which one is better for my thinkpad x61, ubuntu or xubuntu ?
[06:41] <onaogh> hexdump_, if i install the beta version, then when the it is released, the beta will be updated to the release version ?
[06:45] <Balsaq> that x61..has plenty of resources for either...its just that xubuntu is zippier
[08:20] <waxman> Does somebody of you have experience with installing linux directly on a SD card? I just installed it, but it seems that the used SD card is too slow or something
[08:21] <Sysi> if it's too slow it's just slow
[08:21] <Sysi> where does it stop?
[08:22] <waxman> it's not really stopping. xfce is starting after a minute or so and I can work with the system but the system freezes for some seconds from time to time
[08:22] <waxman> nothing serious and i will stick with it, but I though I ask here if anyone have tried this with xubuntu
[09:54] <mnemoc> hi, in 9.10 there is a nice volume manager in the panel, very complete. but i installed beta1 of lucid's and got back to a simple applet triggering xfce4-mixer. how can i get the sounds preference thing from 9.10 in 10.04?
[09:55] <bazhang> mnemoc, lucid support in #ubuntu+1
[09:56] <mnemoc> bazhang: ok
[09:56] <mnemoc> no #xubuntu+1 :(
[09:56] <mr_pouit> mnemoc: nothing changed, so you probably installed something to get this "nice volume manager"
[09:58] <mnemoc> mr_pouit: it's there right after installing xubuntu/9.10 ... it's not the classic "mixer" applet from xfce. on right button it says "mute; sound preferences" only
[09:59] <mnemoc> aha! it's the notification area, not an applet
[10:00] <mnemoc> gnome-volume-control
[10:00] <mnemoc> funny i got that gnome thing in my xubuntu installtion
[10:01] <mnemoc> well, no more noise. thanks!
[10:49] <Sysi> btw, does anybody know if we're gonna have proper gdmsetup in lucid?
[10:50] <knome> Sysi, well there is gdm2setup ..
[10:50] <Sysi> other than current with two buttons?
[10:51] <knome> google for gdm2setup
[10:54] <Sysi> looking good, finally
[10:54] <knome> :)
[10:54] <knome> ;:np
[10:54] <knome> bbl
[10:56] <Sysi> just waiting for xdmcp
[12:06] <dvdm_> running xubuntu 9.10... in networkmanagerapplet, why would the "add" button under the VPN tab be disabled?
[12:34] <dvdm_> aaahhhhh just need to install the network-manager-xyz plugin's...
[15:53]  * dvdm__ hold the breath in his left lung
[18:37] <Howitzer> Hi
[18:38] <Howitzer> I'm having some problems with mounting a USB harddisk read-writable, using /etc/fstab
[18:40] <Howitzer> I'm using the following line: '/dev/sdb1 /media/lacie vfat rw,users 0 0'
[18:40] <Howitzer> anyone know what's wrong with it?
[20:57] <pteague> where do i find the files for the various styles that show up in Settings -> Appearance? & any idea where i need to put my modified versions in ~ ?
[20:59] <charlie-tca> !themes
[20:59] <charlie-tca> !xfcethemes
[21:00] <charlie-tca> !xfce_themes
[21:02] <charlie-tca> I think you can put them in ~/.local/themes
[21:03] <charlie-tca> or it might be ~/.themes
[21:43] <pteague> k, ty :)
[21:59] <Dracari> is there any support for the Compaq Presario R3000's Multi Card reader in xubuntu 9.10?
[22:02] <Dracari> all i know it's a Texas Instruments Based Chipset
[22:02] <Dracari> (just need SD access )
[22:02] <pteague> seems to find stuff in ~/.themes & not ~/.local/themes ...  just messing around with settings atm, trying to figure out which is the inactive window title text
[22:05] <Dracari> ;-; just ran lspci.. an di think ist teh Bad Chipset... its the TI PCI1620 Rev 01 Chipset
[23:14] <pteague> hmm...  anybody that's using the gtk2-engines-xfce able to get the background/foreground colors of the inactive window's title bar to change? i can't seem to get anything other than dark grey on black
[23:19] <charlie-tca> mine are light grey using raleigh
[23:24] <pteague> weird... what's the contents of your /usr/share/themes/Raleigh/gtk-2.0/gtkrc ? mine is basically just a comment stating it's the default theme if no other theme is selected... which makes me wonder how it's getting any colors
[23:24] <charlie-tca> oops, that isn't right. Mine are light grey using G2
[23:25] <charlie-tca> Raleigh is the appearance theme I use
[23:25] <pteague> using g2?
[23:26] <pteague> gtk2?
[23:26] <charlie-tca> Window Manager -> Style
[23:26] <charlie-tca> G2
[23:26] <charlie-tca> that controls the windows
[23:26] <charlie-tca> appearance controls the panels
[23:27] <charlie-tca> Which is really light grey
[23:28] <pteague> aha! i was using... um, er...
[23:28] <pteague> Albatross maybe?
[23:28] <charlie-tca> it is very confusing to try to find how to change theme items, huh?
[23:28] <charlie-tca> yup
[23:28] <charlie-tca> default to Albatross
[23:29] <irqsRFun> Is this  the correct IRC channel for support for Gnome based ubuntu?
[23:29] <charlie-tca> nope
[23:29] <pteague> gnome based is #ubuntu
[23:29] <charlie-tca> irqsRFun: that would be #ubuntu
[23:29] <pteague> this is for xfce :)
[23:30] <charlie-tca> actually, xfce based Xubuntu
[23:30] <pteague> hmm...  guess i need to mess around with modifying the window manager styles as well then
[23:30] <irqsRFun> thanks
[23:30] <charlie-tca> no problem
[23:32] <pteague> i've been using xfce since kde4 & intrepid made my desktop completely unstable... & even though kde4 has probably gotten over that, last i looked i don't want to go back to kde
[23:33] <charlie-tca> I only been using it since 6.06
[23:37] <pteague> i still have my 6.06 ubuntu disk from linux format around somewhere... saw it the other day... made me try gnome again after which i promptly installed kde followed by all the others & an uninstall of gnome
[23:44] <pteague> nifty... some of these wm styles are pretty cool... going to have to mess around with making my own at some point i guess