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DarkwingDuckjjesse: ping00:52
DarkwingDuckRiddell: ping00:57
jjesseDarkwingDuck: pong01:01
ScottKDarkwingDuck: FYI, if you get Kubuntu membership, that gives you Ubuntu memebership.  The reverse is not true.01:13
ScottKI agree with nixternal, you should apply.01:13
DarkwingDuckthanks ScottK01:17
jjessewas doc string freeze today?01:34
DarkwingDucki think so. thats why nixternal and i were crunching01:35
DarkwingDuckjjesse: I think we both replied to Carl at the same time LOL01:41
jjesseyup i think we did01:48
DarkwingDuckanyone know when the next kubuntu meeting is?02:17
ScottKDarkwingDuck: Not scheduled, but there have been noises about scheduling one soon.02:20
DarkwingDuckI'm adding myself to the agenda02:21
DarkwingDuckI'm running into a small problem. I'm compiling a program and it says that libusb-1.0 is not installed... However, it is. What can I do to push around this?02:34
shadeslayerMamarok: well the build failed :p03:26
shadeslayeri just checked :)03:26
* daskreech hates Xorg03:26
daskreechI don't know how it doesn't win the Worst example of FOSS year after year03:27
shadeslayerOk one thing,if i include pkg-kde-tools in a build dep,how do i call it in the new 3.0 format rules file? and whats the error in : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/41882479/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.kraft_0.40b2-0ubuntu1~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz03:28
shadeslayeri can see that it says it could not find 'boost' so does that mean its the boost lib?03:29
shadeslayernixternal: lawl03:30
nixternalI can never remember the quote from Pulp Fiction03:30
nixternalI extended our string freeze to fix typos and to have Carl edit and fix. He is the da man!03:31
shadeslayernixternal: btw when you start doc work for 10.10 do inform me too :)03:32
nixternalshadeslayer: rock on03:35
* nixternal kicks DarkwingDuck in the shins03:35
nixternalbrb, writing up a blog post03:35
shadeslayernixternal: thanks :)03:36
DarkwingDucknixternal: what did i do?03:36
DarkwingDucknixternal: i added myself to the next kubuntu meeting... since you are writing...03:36
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: when is this meeting? and can non members attend it?03:37
DarkwingDuckdont know, but i'm applying for membership03:37
DarkwingDuckits not updated on the wiki03:38
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: good luck :)03:38
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: thanks03:38
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: wheres your application btw?03:38
shadeslayerim thinking of applying too xD03:38
shadeslayerpretty neat :)03:40
DarkwingDuckthanks shadeslayer03:41
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: youll probably get through :D\03:41
DarkwingDuckI hope so. :)03:41
DarkwingDuckOhhhh... I have a small bone to pick with KDE :P03:42
ubottuKDE bug 116682 in general "Support fingerprint reader login in kdm" [Wishlist,New]03:42
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: hehe... btw the docs in lucid are XML too?03:42
DarkwingDuckNew my a@@... it's been in since '0503:42
DarkwingDuckYes shadeslayer. DocBook03:43
DarkwingDuckfreeze just went it.03:43
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: um..upstream has a project on this\03:43
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: highly volatile and unstable though.....03:43
DarkwingDuckYeah... Thinkfiger works okay.03:43
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: oh i mean kdm already has a plugin for this03:44
DarkwingDuckJust wont work with hardly anything. I'm trying to port a project I found to use PAM with openID03:44
DarkwingDuckOh? I've been trying to find it03:44
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: hold on..ill have to search for it03:44
shadeslayerlast time i tried it was fail03:44
DarkwingDuckIf I can get PAM with openID I can port my fingerprint scanner with OpenID03:45
DarkwingDuckIt will be a small victory LOL03:45
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: http://blog.djaara.net/wordpress/kategorie/english/kdm/03:45
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: http://blog.djaara.net/wordpress/2009/10/16/kfingermanager-and-kdmfprintplugin-in-kde-svn/ too03:46
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: +103:46
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: i remember this since i was so excited about using kdm+thinkfinger.... and after trying for 4-5 hours i gave up :D03:47
DarkwingDuckI've been loggin what I do that works... I think my first package will be getting this dang thing to work LOL03:48
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: would love that...03:48
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: you know packaging too? :P03:48
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: not really... i'm learning03:49
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: ah.. ok03:49
shadeslayerthose distribution build machines are mocking the ppa ones :P03:50
DarkwingDucklol. hmmm, im not using fprint though....03:51
ScottKnixternal: You should put that in /topic.03:52
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: yeah like i said...03:52
shadeslayerok ive gtg... class :D03:52
shadeslayerScottK: could you look at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/41882479/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.kraft_0.40b2-0ubuntu1~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz ?03:52
shadeslayerScottK: i think im missing the boost libs but not sure,and how do i invoke pkg-kde-tools in the new rules file03:53
shadeslayerok bye :)03:55
shadeslayerScottK: ill bbl to clear this :)03:55
=== nixternal changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu Developer Channel | Support in #kubuntu | Beta 1 released! | Feature Freeze, fix bugs | Kubuntu has the Doctor on the brain | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | milestoned bugs marked as kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/yjybcx9 | String freeze in effect - change a GUI item without nixternal's approval and lose a finger!
nixternalcan we keep offtopic stuff out of the topic please, except for developer birthdays03:56
nixternalI can't stand the Doctor, so it isn't on my brain03:57
nixternalyou bring back Pertwee, Davison, or either of the Bakers, and I might change my mind03:57
nixternalback when it was a good shot and not some silly seinfeld meets all my children03:58
=== JontheEchidna changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu Developer Channel | Support in #kubuntu | Beta 1 released! | Feature Freeze, fix bugs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | milestoned bugs marked as kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/yjybcx9 | String freeze in effect - change a GUI item without nixternal's approval and lose a finger!
nixternalor get Ricky Gervais to be the doctor03:58
nixternalJontheEchidna did it, don't blame me!03:59
JontheEchidnawas contemplating to remove it just a few hours ago actually. it's been there for a while03:59
nixternalprobably could do without losing a finger, but I am serious, a finger will be the least of your worries :D03:59
nixternalDarkwingDuck: tomorrow I will be out of my office for the better part of the entire day. I should be back sometime after 15:00 our time. I am going to allow edits up to at least that time, I am guessing until about 20:00 our time really. I want to give Carl a little bit of time as I feel bad that I left him out of the loop on a few emails where I was cracking the whip on you nuckle heads :)04:03
crimsunnixternal: bah, you were gone for supper when I was in ORD yesterday04:05
DarkwingDucknixternal: freeze is tomorrow then?04:05
nixternalcrimsun: you should have called me04:06
nixternalhow long were you there for?04:06
nixternal+1 630 445 3860 - if you are in or around chicago, let me know, any of you04:07
nixternalI live 10 miles away, you probably flew over my back yard and made a bunch of noise04:07
crimsunnixternal: two hours en route to vancouver, bc04:07
nixternalactually, I am 5 miles away, but I have to drive an extra 5 miles around it in order to get in04:07
* DarkwingDuck writes down the number04:07
nixternalwe went over and watched them knock down our old house that we lived in when we first moved to chicago in 197904:08
crimsunI am never leaving my phone battery connected when I fly. I'll probably have a shittonne of roaming charges.04:08
nixternalit was a bit tearful for my mom04:08
nixternalthey are knocking the houses down to make room for the new runways04:08
ScottKnixternal: KDE SC 4.4.2 should be released any day now.  We have an FFe for that.  It'll be really hard to know for sure if there are any string changes or not.04:10
ScottKIf shadeslayer comes back would someone please tell him he probably needs to add libboost1.40-dev as a build-dep.04:11
nixternalyeah, there are string changes for it04:11
nixternalI will do it now since it is one line I have to fix04:11
daskreechanyone has any tips on how to add resolution modelines to Xorg?04:13
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JontheEchidnaScottK: kde l10n dept. would shit bricks if there were any string changes within KDE. I don't think we'll ever have to worry about that04:21
ScottKJontheEchidna: I think there was one.  I vaguely recall some discussion about it on kde-devel.04:22
ScottKIt may have been earlier though04:22
JontheEchidnamost likely bricks were being shat ;P04:22
nixternalScottK: 4.4.2 now in kubuntu-docs04:22
nixternalDarkwingDuck: I also removed a bunch of (editor comments...) that I am guessing Carl put in there....now that I think about it, I should have done <!-- * --> on them to keep them04:23
nixternaloh well, I will be able to look back in history anyways04:23
nixternalwhat he said I was going to fix eventually anyways...not really issues, but more of a "add a bit more on this please"04:23
DarkwingDucknixternal: roger.04:24
DarkwingDuckI think we should keep them <!-- * --> because it's good reminders for us04:24
daskreechDarkwingDuck: Yes?04:24
DarkwingDuckI have no problems abusing <!-- * --> because they are good reminders04:25
DarkwingDuckdaskreech: :P04:25
daskreechDarkwingDuck:  I see your :-p and raise you a http://rony.4y.com.cn/ascii/ascii/don.htm04:27
nixternalScottK: could you change DarkwingDuck's testimonial from committers to Ubuntu Member :)04:28
nixternalI am not to worried about committers one way or the other, want him to be a full-fledged Kubuntu homeboy04:29
nixternalwe need more shipmates in here anyways04:29
ScottKnixternal: I'll do a Kubuntu Members testimonial, probably tomorrow.04:29
nixternalhaha, rock on04:29
ScottKThat's right, you're half brown shoe anyway.04:30
nixternalI don't care what he applies for * Member wise, he will get it...04:30
nixternalI am not half brown shoe04:30
nixternalI am a black shoe through and through04:30
daskreechhttp://train.board8.com/ascii_det.php?id=1683&page=9&sort=0 <-- DarkwingDuck04:30
nixternalGUNNER'S MATE GUNS!04:30
ScottKPAX River?04:30
DarkwingDuckits all about us airdales04:30
ScottKYou've been contaminated.04:30
nixternalthe only brown on those shoes are shitsplatters of the "let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor"04:31
nixternalI was ASF there, small arms instructor, range and weapons master04:31
DarkwingDuckdaskreech: +104:31
nixternaland...the only certified gunsmith in the united states navy at that time04:31
ScottKSomewhat defensive on the matter of brown shoes too.04:32
DarkwingDuckyou served Navy ScottK?04:32
nixternalyou old people crack me up04:32
ScottKDarkwingDuck: Yes.  I was a SWO.04:32
nixternalScottK is an old school squid...he was in the diesel navy04:32
DarkwingDuckoh... -1 :P04:32
nixternalactually, the ol' steam navy04:33
ScottKnixternal: No way.  Jets all the way.04:33
nixternalDaviey Jones was a seaman when ScottK was in the navy04:33
DarkwingDuckScottK: what were poop decks like?04:33
* DarkwingDuck ducks04:33
ScottKCrashbacks on gas turbine/CRP ship are lots of fun.04:34
nixternal5" 54 MK45's all the way04:34
DarkwingDuckI miss watching F-14s launch04:34
ScottKnixternal: Don't forget I was a Gunnery Officer.04:34
DarkwingDuck:) I'm up for E-6 in Sept04:35
nixternalwhere gunnery was a 50 caliber ball rifle04:35
DarkwingDuckWas? You must have gotten the powder wet04:36
nixternalwet powder no go bang, it just goes poof04:36
DarkwingDuckAnd drank all the rum :P04:36
nixternaland never spill coca-cola on a 16" powder bag, they tend to go up in smoke04:37
DarkwingDuckAnything left for me in the next 18 hours nixternal?04:37
nixternalgo through and tidy up if you see stuff that needs fixing...might want to check with carl, though I am willing to bet he works on the new docs04:38
nixternalI think he has tackled all of the other docs04:38
nixternalseriously Editor-In-Chief he is04:38
DarkwingDuckNo kidding04:39
DarkwingDuckA god send04:39
DarkwingDucki gave u my # right nixternal04:39
* nixternal looks04:40
DarkwingDuck+1 619 381 421604:41
nixternaldid you call me recently?04:42
DarkwingDuckI dont think so... i just added u to my phone when u tossed ur number up tonight04:43
nixternaloh, I got a phone call recently from a 619 number04:44
DarkwingDuckits San Diego number04:44
nixternalif I get just a phone number to appear on my phone, I don't answer it usually and let it go to voice mail04:44
DarkwingDucksame here04:44
nixternalyeah, you would have been the only one I currently know I think out there04:44
nixternalI get probably 50 calls a day04:44
nixternala lot of them are head hunters, so I try to filter them out04:45
nixternalso for job stuff like that, I typically put out my 4KDE phone number04:45
nixternalgoogle voice ftw04:45
DarkwingDuckahh. good idea04:45
DarkwingDucknixternal: free texts and i always have it on too.04:49
nixternali am afraid to see what my texting bill is going to be....had all of the international peeps in town this weekend, and probably did 50 text messages...I think I might be safe with a 250 msg limit, at least I hope so04:50
DarkwingDuckVZW has been good to me04:51
nixternalthat's who I have as well04:51
DarkwingDucknixternal: EPIC... look at his goals. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/CarlSymons04:52
nixternalso they would be free between you and i04:52
DarkwingDuckthats a +104:52
nixternaloh, I love him big time!04:52
nixternalthat is absolutely brilliant04:52
DarkwingDuckHe just went up in my book04:52
nixternalhttp://www.frys.com/product/5956034?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG  <- I think I want that bag for my netbook04:56
nixternaloh hell yeah, and it is at my frys too04:56
DarkwingDuckfor only 30 bucks? hell ya04:57
nixternalor that...though that is still to big...I have the big version of that...the most amazing case you will ever own05:00
nixternalI have my E-7 insignia and my crossed beer bottles, aka the gunner's mate crossed guns05:01
DarkwingDucki need something for my thinkpad05:01
nixternalmessenger bags for the win05:02
nixternalmy chrome bag can hold a 30 pack of beer and still be comfortable on my back05:03
nixternalI use it when I do small grocery shopping05:03
DarkwingDuckthis X41 is brilliant05:04
DarkwingDuckand the price is awesome05:05
crimsunugh, X4105:06
crimsunthose things have the worst AC'97 codecs05:06
crimsunI ended up patching the heck out of them to get audio working05:07
nixternalok, i am going to bed...i have to wake up before 10am :)05:07
nixternalg'nite all, see ya today05:07
crimsunit's weird to see 1:07 in the client but it be hours behind ;)05:07
DarkwingDucknixternal: i'm right behind ya05:08
DarkwingDucknight gang05:08
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jussi01Hrm, where do I find kubuntu logo's in decent quality?07:58
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nixternaloh, this is way to early in the morning12:14
Tm_Tnixternal: or too late at night12:23
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shadeslayerah :)13:19
shadeslayerejat: ping13:19
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shadeslayerapachelogger: ping13:28
apacheloggershadeslayer: pong13:28
shadeslayerapachelogger: how do i use dh with pkg-kde-tools?13:29
shadeslayerapachelogger: in the new format i mean :)13:29
apacheloggerdh --kde or something13:29
apacheloggertake a look at some newer KDE package ;)13:29
shadeslayerapachelogger: also im having problems with : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/41946629/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.kraft_0.40b2-0ubuntu1~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz : and : https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/playground/+build/1579694/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.kraft_0.40b2-0ubuntu1~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz :13:29
* apachelogger doesnt really have time for that sort of stuff13:30
apacheloggershadeslayer: I recommend you poke someone else who has time :)13:31
shadesla1erapachelogger: ah ok,sorry if i disturbed you :)13:31
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apacheloggershadeslayer: no problem I am just a bit busy since a lot of meetings are today13:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: oh sure i understand..13:34
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ScottKshadeslayer: The answer to your question from last night is add libboost1.40-dev to build-depends14:04
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ScottKIs anyone working on a qt4-x11 update?14:35
Tm_TScottK: new patch?14:40
ScottKThere's a couple of things that have accumulated.14:41
ScottKI don't want to step on anyone's toes if they're already working on stuff.14:41
shadeslayerScottK: ah thanks :)14:41
shadeslayerScottK: and it was this mornin14:41
ScottKNot where I am, but whatever.14:42
agateauapachelogger: ping14:44
shadeslayerScottK: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/playground/+build/1579693/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.kraft_0.40b2-0ubuntu1~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz << This one looks different14:44
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ScottKshadeslayer: Yes, that one seems a bit odd.14:46
ScottKshadeslayer: Are you using any other PPAs in your PPA?14:47
shadeslayerScottK: oh yeah the kubuntu backports ppa from karmic..14:47
shadeslayerScottK: but that shouldnt be a problem....14:47
ScottKThat particlar issue looks like a kdepim bug.14:47
shadeslayerScottK: i think theres one filed against it14:48
ubottuUbuntu bug 544765 in kdepim "libkdepim4 pulls in kmail on lucid upgrade" [Undecided,New]14:48
shadeslayerits not the exact same issue though14:48
ScottKI think it is.14:49
shadeslayerScottK: i wasnt sure :)14:49
shadeslayerScottK: ah so libkdepim depends on kmail,but kmail isnt available for installation via the ppa builder?14:51
ScottKNo, I suspect that problem is that it's a circular depends.14:51
rgreeningNew KDE release is coming out soon. Having qt-x11 updated prior would be great ScottK.14:52
ScottKkmail depends libkdepim4 and libkdepim4 depends kmail.  I'm looking at it now.14:52
shadeslayerScottK: ah.. thats odd14:52
ScottKIt's a bug.14:53
shadeslayerScottK: seems to be14:54
Quintasanno matter how you look at it, it's spring now, 20 degrees Celsius outside14:55
shadeslayerScottK: so what should be done14:55
shadeslayerMamarok_: hehe... ive uploaded a new package,this one should build , but the amd64 one wont :)14:56
ScottKWe should figure out which .so that's in kmail should be in libkdepim4 instead.14:56
Mamarok_shadeslayer: nice, but why wouldn't the 64bit version not build?15:03
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shadeslayerMamarok: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/54476515:05
ubottuUbuntu bug 544765 in kdepim "libkdepim4 pulls in kmail on lucid upgrade" [Undecided,New]15:05
agateauRiddell: ping15:05
shadeslayerMamarok: specific problem with amd64 packages15:05
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ScottKagateau: Riddell is gone today and tomorrow, AFAIK.15:06
agateauScottK: oh ok15:06
Mamarokshadeslayer: well, why would KDE PIM people not want kmail in the first place?15:07
shadeslayerMamarok: its a circular build dep wait... libkdepim depends on kmail which depends on libkdepim15:13
ubottupong is an old atari game. It's fun!15:15
ScottKI think I have it fixed.  Testing.15:20
shadeslayerScottK: ah thanks :D15:20
ejatthanks .15:20
ScottKLooks like it's been broken since December.  Not sure why it's just making a problem now.15:20
ejatshadeslayer: pong15:21
shadeslayerMamarok: if the fix gets uploaded soon it amd64 might build too15:21
shadeslayerejat: oh just wanted to tell ya that i uploaded a new version15:23
shadeslayerejat: the ~ppa2 had a missing build dep and the rules file had no --with-kde15:24
shadeslayerejat: you can download everything from my PPA by dget <link of .dsc file>15:24
shadeslayerok gtg...bye15:28
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apacheloggeragateau: pong15:51
ScottKJontheEchidna: I was looking at doing your kde4libs upload, but ran into lintian errors about direct changes in the source.  Would you be able to look into that and see if we have direct source changes that need to be converted to patches?15:54
agateauapachelogger: I gave a try at the kconf_update script15:55
agateaufor message indicator15:55
agateaubut kconf_update does not work with nested groups :/15:55
apacheloggeragateau: you can craft your own script with kconf_update, cant you?15:55
agateauapachelogger: that's what I did, but the script must either output new keys or a special command to delete existing keys15:56
agateauapachelogger: it can't do arbitrary text operations on the config file15:56
apacheloggeragateau: maybe just manipulate teh config directly ^^15:57
JontheEchidnaScottK: just looks like some stuff that the l10n scripts15:57
JontheEchidnadpkg-source: info: upstream files that have been modified:15:57
JontheEchidna kde4libs-4.4.1/mimetypes/kde.xml.podir/kde.xml.in15:57
JontheEchidna kde4libs-4.4.1/mimetypes/kde.xml.podir/kde.xml.in.h15:57
apacheloggerlet kconf_update call the script and the script then dierctly acts on the config15:57
agateauapachelogger: can do, but how is this going to be triggered15:57
JontheEchidnadunno what those are or where they came from15:57
apacheloggeragateau: by kconf_update? ^^15:57
agateauyes, actually the script could be a simple sed call...15:58
agateaubut then I would need to hardcode $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc in it15:58
ScottKapachelogger: Any ideas about my kde4libs question?15:58
agateaunot sure it's going to be a problem15:58
JontheEchidnaScottK: I think it's either leftovers from our l10n scripts or something that make clean doesn't catch15:59
agateauactually I don't know if it would work, because kconf_update writes to the config file at the end15:59
agateauapachelogger: going to give it a try15:59
JontheEchidnaScottK: there's nothing documenting those files in debian/changelog, though, so they should be safe to remove imo15:59
apacheloggeragateau: kthx :)15:59
ScottKJontheEchidna: OK.  I'll go back to that after I finish fixing kdepim.15:59
agateauapachelogger: the other solution is to fix kconf_update15:59
JontheEchidnano prob. I'm off to lunch now though16:00
agateauapachelogger: but it's a bit scary... and there is no test at all :/16:00
apacheloggeragateau: well, maybe just sed for plugin=oldname?16:00
apacheloggercant go much wrong with that16:00
agateauapachelogger: yes, that's what I was thinking,16:00
agateauapachelogger: except I think kconf_update writes to the file after the script is run16:01
agateauso it's going to overwrite the changes16:01
apacheloggeragateau: that would be unfortunate :S16:09
* agateau tests16:09
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agateauapachelogger: fail :/16:21
agateauguess it's time to give kconf_update some love16:22
JontheEchidnafinally, something that described my spring vacation! http://all-thats-interesting.tumblr.com/post/453798400/what-my-spring-vacation-looks-like16:49
shadeslayermeh.... facebook XMPP is fail17:12
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lex79JontheEchidna: can you upload phonon-backends to ninja before we start with 4.4.2 packaging?17:42
lex79I uploaded qt4, python-qt4, sip4, qscintilla2 to ninja17:42
JontheEchidnalex79: ok17:45
QuintasanJontheEchidna: did you apply for UDS sponsorship?17:46
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: yus17:46
QuintasanJontheEchidna: in the Location field, I should put there nearest city where there is an airport that connects with Belgium?17:47
JontheEchidnaI just put the nearest major airport for mine17:47
QuintasanPoland is a stupid country, really17:48
ScottKQuintasan: Put the airport you'd prefer to fly out of.17:49
QuintasanThe airplane from Wroclaw goes to capital (Warsaw) and then to Belgium doubling the price17:49
ScottKQuintasan: Canonical's problem, not yours.17:49
Quintasanawesome, even from Berlin there are no direct connections :O17:51
ScottKBrussels is a bit of an odd choice from a transportation perspective.17:53
ScottKDon't worry about it though, if you are selected to be sponsored, Canonical has travel agents hired to help figure it all out.17:53
JontheEchidnaScottK: Do you know around when acceptance/rejection emails for sponsorship are sent?17:54
ScottKJontheEchidna: No.  It seems to vary.17:54
jjesseQuintasan: the last UDS i attended i told Canonical what city I was starting at and also if i had a prefered airline17:54
jjessethey made everything else for me17:54
dfaureWhile trying to install kubuntu 10.04 beta1 from CD, system booted, but X came up empty (after crashing a few times, say the logs). From a VT I started an xterm and from there I started "ubiquity kde_ui"; but I doubt joe user will find this :)17:59
QuintasanScottK, JontheEchidna: http://pastebin.com/Xy3hBz2y <-- is it good enough or I should mention more things?18:00
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: Personally, I used all 1000 characters allotted to me, almost exatly18:01
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JontheEchidnadfaure: The live CD session came up empty? Wonder if the X crashes were related...18:04
dfaureactually I chose "Install" right away in the boot menu18:07
JontheEchidnaah, that's a bit different18:08
JontheEchidnabug 526486 maybe... but that should have been fixed a few days before the release18:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 526486 in ubiquity "ubiquity not starting in kubuntu install only mode " [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52648618:12
* Quintasan wonders if he should mention in Further information that he will come with his mother or father18:13
QuintasanScottK: ^18:13
ScottKQuintasan: You should talk to ryanakca.  When he came to Barcelona, his Dad came too.  Not sure what he put.18:14
dfaureusability suggestion: the partitioner GUI should show volume labels, to help identify the partitions18:17
QuintasanI bet nixternal is going to love this ^18:17
maco"i'm a kid, so i'll bring a chaperone"?18:17
dfaurebut the real question is: can't the partitioner resize ntfs partitions?18:18
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: generally docs don't cover the installer, I don't think18:19
* Quintasan reffered to topic when writing that18:19
JontheEchidnadfaure: should be able to. I don't think I would have been able to install on my laptop if it couldn't18:19
dfaureI see no gui for it. "Change..." button only offers partition type, format checkbox, mount point.18:20
JontheEchidnahmm, wonder if shyltman would know anything about that. Too bad he's not here...18:21
dfaureok nm, I'll reinstall windows later if needed.18:23
ScottKThe installer can resize NTFS partitions in general.  Whether the Lucid installer is capable of it today, no promises.18:24
seeletheoretically possible = kids, do not try this at home without adult supervision?18:25
dfaureyou can't try it at home, there's no button for it...18:25
JontheEchidnaI thought there had been a "size" number edit in the change dialog... wonder why it's not there18:25
JontheEchidnawill have to check it out next time I do iso testing18:26
ScottKJontheEchidna: I'm working on kde4libs again now.  I'll probably hold off a bit to upload so that kdepim on the slow archs doesn't get caught up in archive squeue.18:40
ScottKTest build takes a while on my laptop in any case.18:42
ScottKlex79: Are you working qt4-x11?18:44
Quintasanapplied for sponsorship18:45
lex79ScottK: for what? JontheEchidna added new phonon patch and I added a cherry-picked patch from upstream. It's in bzr and ninja18:45
ScottKlex79: Bug #54602418:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 546024 in qt4-x11 "file overwrite error" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54602418:45
ScottKIt's minor, but we ought to get it included.18:45
ScottKIt's small, but a significant impact.18:46
yuriy14:44 < PovAddict> yuriy: something in kdelibs includes attica/provider.h, but the kdelibs5-dev Ubuntu package doesn't depend on libattica-dev as it should18:46
yuriy^ bug?18:46
yuriyi got an error about that file missing when compiling kdevplatform from svn18:46
lex79ScottK: It's not fixed yet, I have no time in this moment, if you can go ahed18:46
ScottKlex79: I don't either.  That's the problem.18:46
lex79ScottK: ok, I will do this night, ok?18:47
ScottKlex79: Great.18:47
JontheEchidnayuriy: bug 52536718:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 525367 in kde4libs "kdelibs5-dev should depend on libattica-dev" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52536718:47
yuriyso if it shouldn't depend on it, what do you think should be the solution?18:49
yuriyis khns part of kdelibs?18:49
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JontheEchidnabuild-depend of the other apps?18:49
JontheEchidnait's got it's runtime/libs components strewn in several places, iirc18:50
yuriybut libattica is already a build-depend of kdelibs? then why can't it be a depend of kdelibs-dev?18:54
yuriyit makes sense that it shouldn't be kdevplatform's responsibility to check if kdelibs AND all of its dependencies are there18:55
* Quintasan high-fives apachelogger18:59
Quintasanclass magic in c++ is full of awesomeness18:59
dfaureok, now booted the alternate CD in expert mode, and it offers to resize partitions...19:07
ryanakcaQuintasan: I don't think I added anything regarding my parents, Jorge and my dad chatted on the phone for a bit to make sure I wasn't being sold into slavery or something of the sort :P20:17
DarkwingDuckwhats the diccussion for irc clients? +1 for Quassel20:19
DarkwingDuckref: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo20:19
ScottKyuriy: If your package needs a header from attica, it ought to build-depend on it directly.20:37
dfaurethe alternate installer is quite nice for the crypto setup... except that it's impossible to change one's mind and delete crypted volumes??20:48
nixternaldfaure: you need to write the crypto crap to disk first, or undo. i can't remember the trick around that20:50
dfaurethat's the problem, it got all written to disk...20:51
dfaurethe undo menuitem doesn't do anything. I was able to delete all the logical stuff, but not the physical volumes20:52
nixternalhrmm, there is a trick and I can't remember what it is20:53
dfaureguess I have to use the command line....20:53
nixternalmaybe you have to go into the configure crypto part....damn, i hate that i can't remember this, and i have done it so many times20:53
dfaurenow this is weird, I used pvremove to get rid of 1 pv (dunno why it didn't show both), but they both still appear in the installer, even after going back to the main menu20:57
nixternalctrl+alt+del :D20:57
dfaurethat worked.21:08
nixternalwhat was the trick?21:10
dfaure<nixternal> ctrl+alt+del :D21:11
nixternalthat's cheating though21:11
dfaureI tried everything else :)21:12
nixternalgotta reboot, brb21:13
yuriyScottK: not a package, building kdevplatform from svn21:15
yuriythere is no check for attica, just for kdelibs, part of which happens to need attica21:16
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dfaurenow this is weird. I set up everything in an encrypted lvm, and yet after creating the user it asks "do you want to crypt the home dir?"21:30
dfaureI have no idea what's going to happen if say yes, or no, to that question :/21:31
nixternalsay no dfaure21:32
nixternalyeah, that decrypted home partition is quite nice actually, but seeing as you already setup encrypted drives, and I am guessing your ~/ as well, you don't need to do it again...now I don't encrypt all of the partitions like I used to, and just do the ~/ one with that final option when creating your user account21:33
nixternalseems a bit faster as well at times21:33
dfaureif I had known, I would have just done that, seems a lot simpler to setup ;)21:33
dfaureis this about ~/Private like https://wiki.kubuntu.org/EncryptedHomeDirectory says? so it's not a real partition, just a mounted file?21:34
nixternalyeah, that ~/ encryption option is on the live disks now as well...that option and encrypted disks on the alt installer is confusing21:35
nixternalbut after you have done it once, it is a breeze afterwards :)21:35
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pascal_I would like to get the 3g part working in knetworkmanger for 10.04. Who should I talk to?22:02
dfaureI would say sebas, in #kde-devel22:04
dfaure(or wstephenson, also there)22:05
pascal_dfaure: ok. I'll try that22:05
* dfaure is also interested in 3g working ;-)22:05
pascal_will they be able help with getting it ready for 10.04, do you think?22:06
dfaurethey're the developers of knetworkmanager. They might not care for "10.04", but they certainly care for knetworkmanager working well ;)22:06
dfaureLOL. On a brand new kubuntu 10.04 install, running kpackagekit -> crash window.22:07
pepeehi, I had this issue: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22952522:09
ubottuKDE bug 229525 in general "no way to open KDE session in Lucid alpha 3" [Crash,Resolved: downstream]22:09
pepeenow I can't log into kubuntu while using radeon driver22:10
pepeeI forgot to mention some details: didn't uninstall the driver before upgrading, and installed it this way: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?p=110091#post11009122:14
nixternalumm, is it known that installing netbook image, you don't create a user?22:41
nixternalit doesn't create a user that is22:41
nixternalScottK: ^^?22:41
nixternalhrmm, and it seems jockey is broken22:46
JontheEchidnanixternal: yeah, I fscked up the .ui file by accidentally commiting some changes... fixed in bzr for the next release22:50
nixternalgotta figure out jockey-text :D22:50
nixternalI found a linksys wireless-g card in my stash of goodies, but it seems it is broken22:51
nixternalmy computer sees it get plugged in, but that's about it22:51
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nixternalfor broadcom cards, which is the better driver: B43 (Free) or STA (Proprietary)?23:19
nixternalI have used the STA one in the past, it worked, but I couldn't scan networks23:19

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