[00:16] can anyone please help me i dont understand what went wrong, i installed kde4.4 and now it looks as if there is a gui over the old kubuntu i can see it right through the new task bar [00:23] zus: can you be more specific? do you have desktop effects turned on? can you open the k menu? [00:23] melissawm: yes, i can open the k menu and no desk top effects are on. [00:25] so what is exactly the problem? [00:25] sorry, zus, that was for you [00:25] melissawm: fresh install pretty much i added a few programs and did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade then i installed kde 4.4 and after the install and update on reboot it seems like there is two gui's over each other [00:26] zus: are you sure it's not just 2 panels? i've had that happen to me [00:33] i can see the old panel behind the new one, i can see the 4 desktop but can click them. the old speaker icon and time beneath the new panel === jussi01 is now known as Guest4656 [00:38] zus: just try removing this new panel and i think you'll be ok [00:39] zus: click on the panel to unlock the widgets, and click again to see the panel options, and "remove this panel" [00:39] melissawm: it looks like kde4.4 is over top of the default 9.10 like the live disc [00:40] im also looking on the forums aint found anything yet [00:40] zus: i have had this happen to me here, but it's not like a whole new gui, just two panels on top of each other. once i remove one of them, all is well [00:41] how about the desktop folder? [00:44] melissawm: figured out how to remove the panel just as you said, thank you that seemed to have worked. thank you kindly [00:45] zus: glad to have helped! :) [00:48] melissawm: 4.4.1 is the latest stable kde correct? [00:48] for 9.10 anyways? [00:51] zus: actually i'm not sure if it's completely stable [00:53] zus: I'd recommend it, though in 9.10 4.3.5 is more tested atm [00:54] melissawm: so im teetering on the verge hehe? [00:55] zus: well it's been pretty stable for me but technically, yeah :P [00:58] melissawm: one more thing? thank you for all the help btw, i prefer xchat over quassel...i tried to install it and it said i dont have the necessary privialedges to perform this action, how do i do that? [00:59] zus: are you on the terminal or on synaptic or kpackagekit? if you're on the terminal, try typing "sudo" in front of your command "apt-get install.." [00:59] if it's synaptic or kpackagekit, it usually should ask you for your password [01:00] im in kpackgekit. [01:01] anyone awake? [01:02] trying to switch to KDE [01:02] want to get internet (wireless/WWAN) working [01:02] zus: are you logged in to your main user account? the first one you created? [01:02] in gnome it has a wireless applet already in the panel, and i can "just connect" to either regular wireless networks or to my WWAN card [01:02] how do i set that up in KDE? [01:03] zus: did you open kpackagekit from the k menu? weird, it should prompt you for your password [01:03] claydoh: yes its the only account on here [01:03] there was an old bug - try this : [01:04] type alt-f2 keys, and type in 'kdesudo kpackagekit' [01:04] then try to update your system [01:04] is there an equivalent app/applet i should use to get this functionality? [01:04] from there [01:04] abstrakt: usually you don't have to setup anything, you should have a network manager plasmoid on your system tray, try to connect and enter your wireless information (ssid, password etc) [01:04] anyone know how to bring up the wireless eth interface on cli in ubuntu? [01:04] zus: sorry have to run :( [01:04] melissawm, hmm, aight i didn't see one, what does it look like? [01:05] if you're disconnected it should look like a disconnected ethernet cable or something like that :P [01:05] claydoh: ty [01:05] abstrakt what card do you have ? [01:05] dell 1440 [01:05] i thought there were commands like ifup [01:05] or ifconfig up [01:06] yes there is but not ifconfig [01:06] iwconfig or something by that [01:06] melissawm: brb gonna try claydoh's idea. [01:06] search on google for atheros how-tos [01:07] zus: ok, hope that works [01:07] there are methods described there on how to activate from cli [01:07] sorry for not knowing the actual command [01:07] abstrakt: did you enable wireless? is that checked ? [01:07] i have to go now too. have a nice one! [01:07] zus, checked where? [01:07] zus, i'm in GNOME right now, so i can use xchat [01:07] is it "phisicaly" on ? [01:08] looks like it's eth2 [01:08] does the led (if you have one) on ? [01:08] so says iwconfig [01:08] CTek, i'm on it right now... on GNOME [01:08] :) [01:08] maybe i'll retry KDE and look for the wireless applet [01:08] brb [01:08] k [01:09] abstrakt: both in gnome and here in kubuntu i had to click the enable wireless [01:09] zus, actualy he may have a point... i did not need to activate the wireless... [01:10] but if he did a "custom" install he could missed the network-monitor pkg [01:10] ahhh take thier advice they know betterthan me heheh im new too [01:11] on been using linux since 2 week b4 9.10. ill be back in a sec... [01:11] not a problem :) we all learn something , i learn from you you from me etc and this is how we exchange information :) [01:15] CTek: i agree, i learned from melissawm hehe [01:16] ok, up on the wireless [01:16] but the wwan doesn't want to autoconfigure [01:16] :) [01:16] it wants me to put in a username on password [01:16] on GNOME, it... like... just connects and stuff [01:16] ok [01:17] have you tried to run knetworkmanager ? [01:17] i dunno how it autosenses, but obviously there's data stored in the hardware/firmware/bios of this little card with my number and login info and stuff [01:17] CTek, not yet [01:17] damn, i don't even know if this is GSM or CDMA [01:18] i don't think it's either, it's EVDO [01:18] start knet.. from gnome and it will ask you if you want it to start automatically and see from there... [01:18] or is EVDO actually GSM [01:18] i can't remember [01:18] no evdo is not gsm [01:18] :) [01:18] CTek, blah, so i have to reboot back into gnome and start knet? [01:18] no [01:19] open a terminal and run the command [01:19] it will override your current network manager [01:19] if i'm not mistaking ... :) [01:20] hmm, knet isn't installed, installing now [01:20] not knet, knetworkmanager [01:21] i don't know for shure but i think that they are different programs [01:21] ok i ran knetworkmanager from console [01:21] waiting [01:21] do i need to run it from sudo? [01:21] no [01:22] with your current credentials should work (at least in my system it did) [01:22] well nothing happened [01:22] nothing that i saw [01:22] it just dumped backed to the command prompt [01:22] with prompt ? [01:22] CTek, ? [01:23] CTek, what do you mean "with prompt" [01:23] do you ee the prompt line or the terminal is it busy ? [01:23] no it dumped me back to the prompt [01:23] i see the prompt [01:23] hm... [01:23] the terminal is not busy, it's done [01:23] which knetworkmanager says /usr/bin/knetworkmanager [01:23] did it give you some msg ? [01:23] nope [01:23] nothing [01:24] wait 1 sec [01:24] CTek, i had to run it as sudo [01:24] ok apparently knetworkmanager is now default [01:24] after doing alt f2 and kdesudo kpackagekit what do i do next? [01:25] CTek, i got that dialog you were talking about [01:25] so now you see the manager ? [01:25] CTek, what manager? [01:25] CTek, no i don't see anything [01:25] it still dumped me back to the command prompt again [01:26] run apt-get and see if it is installed with all the dependencies [01:26] i did get something about unable to register service QBusError [01:26] CTek, ? [01:26] CTek, not sure how it would have gotten installed withou its dependencies [01:26] CTek, plz tell me you're not just talking about the system tray applet? [01:26] CTek, cuz that's running... i'm on the wireless network here [01:27] CTek, so step one... [01:27] no i'm refering about the network config [01:27] step one is to see if you have it installed ok [01:28] run apt-get check... [01:28] O.o nothing it worked!! [01:28] brb gonna check somethign [01:29] CTek, sudo apt-get check knetworkmanager? [01:29] just check [01:30] it just says Done and Done [01:30] ok [01:30] beside the "icon" have you seen any network manager open ? [01:31] CTek, well i opened up the network control panel [01:31] dunno if that qualifies as a network manager [01:31] but there was a place in there for broadband connections [01:31] ok [01:31] but i don't know any of the details of this cell card really [01:31] ... [01:31] it's all automatic on windows, and it was automatic on ubuntu, one day i just noticed it was there [01:31] CTek, i mean, i have to enter my phone number into the windows connection application, but i don't enter a password or anything [01:32] can you get more info from windows ? [01:32] CTek, and in GNOME i didn't have to enter any of that, it just connected for me one day [01:32] CTek, er, maybe? [01:32] CTek, doubt it, that connection manager seems pretty opaque [01:32] CTek, how bout this... how do I move my panel to the top of the screen? [01:33] we'll go to something simpler :) [01:33] ? [01:33] are you serious about the panel ?? [01:34] CTek, very [01:35] maybe someone with more experience in customizing your desktop should answer that... [01:38] CTek, figured it out [01:39] wtf? [01:39] omly in english here? [01:39] no way, i can't move a widget to the right? [01:39] i stays suck... [01:39] it's locked [01:39] en español no, no? [01:39] try right click and uncheck lock [01:41] CTek, there is no such option [01:42] explain how you can't move ? [01:44] !es | [01:44] : En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [01:47] CTek, the panel applets won't honor absolute position [01:47] CTek, they always snap to nearest neighbor [01:47] CTek, how do i add an applet to my quicklaunch that comes from the K menu? [01:47] lol, nm figured it out [01:49] how do i watch dvd's now? i put it in the drive, but nothing is going on. im used to gnome where it pops up on the desktop... [01:50] abstract, i think that it uold be best to search/read some how-to's on how to customize your desktop, i can help you anly so much, or if some other users here are willing to help. [01:53] CTek, meh, i've got it basically setup now [02:00] Argh. How do I get Xorg/ xrandr to give me a list of proper resolutions? [02:01] i got it to play discs woot, i feel smart [02:01] * zus smiles [02:01] * daskreech grins at zus [02:06] !resolution [02:06] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [02:07] omg, my desktops went horizontal on me [02:07] now i can't get them to go back vertical [02:07] wtf [02:08] omg, now capslock is backwards [02:08] holy crap [02:08] how do i get my desktops to go vertical again? [02:12] and, now all my gtk apps look like shit [02:13] how do i get the GTK themes while running KDE? [02:13] CTek, ? [02:13] select the proper window manager [02:13] CTek, er... select it where? [02:14] depending on what you have installed it is possible to change themes [02:14] from control panel [02:15] CTek: Any clue on how to get something reflecting a real resolution in the Display KCM module? [02:15] look & feel appearance [02:15] ahah, well i figured out the pager situation [02:16] daskreech, sorry i do not know... [02:17] ok no problems [02:30] Could someone point me to directions for the best way to set up a KDE development environment on Kubuntu? [02:31] kaitos_: http://Techbase.kde.org [02:31] any one from iran [02:33] ok, so what gives, is viewing folder contents incompatible with having a desktop background or what? [02:34] abstrakt: what do you mean exactly? === kaitos_ is now known as kaitos [02:51] Wow [02:51] Xorg hates me === RedXIII`Alt is now known as RedXIII [02:56] i have no audio in youtube. on Kubuntu 9.10 KDE4.4 just installed today can anyone help please? [02:57] using firefox [02:59] zus: is pulseaudio installed? [03:00] kaitos, i dont know, my dvd plays fine, though [03:02] kaitos, amorok is playing an mp3 just fine [03:02] im new to kubuntu/linux [03:02] audio seems to be working just youtube has no audio [03:06] zus: type "dpkg -l | grep pulseaudio" into a terminal [03:06] kaitos i figured it out. i right clicked the speacker icon and clicked mixer window and raised pcm all the way up. [03:07] kaitos ok what is this im typing? so as to learn terminal commands please [03:08] ok wtf, lol where are the compiz settings again? [03:08] i was just in there, can't find them anymore [03:09] system preferences compiz [03:09] nm, got it [03:09] ubuntu, i went to the "classic tree view" [03:09] lol [03:09] it's actually under "desktop" [03:09] ok, now how do I turn off the scrolling function on my trackpad? [03:10] all depends on where you put it really [03:10] do you need emerald to use compiz? i seen a video where the window borders disapear with out emerlad [03:10] different flavors may default put it in different directories too [03:12] lol your using linux you can pretty much do whatever you want to do if you learn how [03:12] ubuntu, thats why i love linux!! hehe [03:12] me too lol [03:13] i've been using since 2 week before 9.10 release in the few months i learned a lot. ALOT! [03:13] zus: 'dpkg' can add, remove, or with the '-l' flag list packages installed on your system. the | makes the output from dpkg -l flow into the "grep" command. the grep command looks for the text pulseaudio [03:13] thanks to the communtiy. [03:14] ubuntu has some of the best support from the community i've ever seen out of the many flavors of linux and unix i've used [03:15] kaitos this outputs a file of what is or isnt installed? as far as pulse audio goes in this case? [03:15] how do i A) swap capslock and ctrl and B) set a hotkey for switching between desktops? [03:15] im liking 9.10 cant wait to see what the next one has in store for us [03:15] zus: dpkg -l shows everything that is installed on your system [03:16] man i got a court summons in the morning for jury duty i think i'd rather get fined a grand than go to that crap lol [03:16] ubuntu, make sure that fine dont come with time to serve [03:16] ah i could care less take a couple day break from real life kick back with the homies :P [03:16] kaitos, i did it in terminal...konsole and i got nothing [03:17] ubuntu, the food is horrible [03:17] i know i've been to jail once or twice in my life [03:17] kaitos, i even copied and paste what you put in case i typed it wrong still nothing [03:18] zus: that means pulseaudio isn't installed :) just type in dpkg -l to see what packages are installed [03:18] ubuntu, i was lucky i went and judge threw everything out except driving w/o a liscence and gave me time serfved for the 12 hours i was in [03:19] kaitos, i get it now,... shiny. [03:20] thats a long list, im amazed its only a 10gig root [03:21] ubuntu, my judge was nice, judge phill yacucci ...true story. thats his name [03:28] will gnome-do work alright with kubuntu? [03:29] zus: yes === Dragnslicer is now known as Dragnslcr [03:32] daskreech, thank you. i enjoyed using it in gnome. [03:32] zus: Enjoy. Try krunner [03:33] daskreech, whats krunner? [03:33] zus: press alt+f2 [03:33] ok [03:34] zus: It's pretty powerful [03:35] daskreech, is it basically the same thing as gnome do? appears to be [03:37] zus: Just about [03:40] daskreech, thanks :D [03:41] zus: it has a help. YOu can learn more about the key words [03:41] zus: things like =200x300 [03:42] it also has two modes [03:42] once you bring it up, you can configure it a bit [03:42] daskreech, ill definatley look into that, im still making sure i have my stuff i need for everyday use [03:43] zus: Wise. What else do you need? [03:43] aperson, i seen that floating window and the task search.. [03:43] daskreech, kompzer and cssed [03:45] daskreech, i also want to see what kwin does and check out the dolphin file manager [03:45] haha, I just had krunner crash [03:45] dolphin does not work with context menu of kdesvn. will this work in 10.04? does anybody know? [03:45] dont tell a new person that lol [03:45] wizkoder: kdesvn ? [03:46] daskreech: kde subversion client. very nice program [03:46] wizkoder: It's built into Dolphin. You don't need kdesvn [03:47] hey guys.. this is really annoying, plasma-desktop keeps crashing [03:47] that's fine [03:47] but before i could just restart it by killing it and restarting it with plasma-desktop& [03:47] now that doesn't work anymore [03:47] what do i do? [03:47] daskreech: how does it work then? [03:48] wizkoder: once you have a svn directory your right click options should have svn commands [03:48] wizkoder: ah, you mean it will be integrated in dolphin in 10.04? [03:49] daskreech: ah, you mean it will be integrated in dolphin in 10.04? [03:49] wizkoder: Yes [03:50] am i going to have to do alt f2 kdesudo kpackagekit when i want to install something everytime? [03:51] zus, you should just be able to run kpackagekit [03:51] iirc === anzenketh is now known as anzenketh|BBL [03:52] aperson, no this is the second time i had it happen it says i dont have the privilege to install somethin [03:53] i actually like synaptic package manager much better or the ubuntu software center [03:53] zus, right click on your menu and go to the menu editor [03:53] from there you can go to settings>kpackagekit [03:53] you can add kdesu onto the beginning of the command to run it [03:54] synaptic package manager has also been around longer [03:54] then every time you alt+f2, it will ask for your password [03:54] I rather aptitude :) [03:54] also, zus you can change the keybinding from alt+f2 if you'd like [03:55] tryin to make his brain blow up or what :P [03:55] lol [03:55] just trying to give pertinent information [03:55] ok under command i type kdesudo? [03:56] add it to the command [03:56] it should say: kdesu kpackagekit -caption "%c" %i %F [03:56] then hit save [03:56] any diferance in kdesu VS kdesudo ? [03:56] zus: install synaptic it works in Kubuntu [03:57] yes, by all means, if you prefer synaptic, go ahead, you'll have to do the same for it as you're doing for kpackagekit, afaik [03:58] zus, kdesu runs as root, kdesudo runs with root privileges, iirc [04:00] aperson, similar to apt-get and aptitude? one is better for certain thiings [04:00] sure [04:01] aptitude is a package manager like synaptic or kpackagekit [04:01] I'd never run apt-get by itself, personally [04:01] but that is a point of argument for some [04:02] once save just close the window [04:03] yessir [04:03] lets give this a go. [04:04] thanks everyone by the way for all help and comments i do appritiate it [04:05] ok it asks for my password now.....ok im cool with that, (even though im the only user) [04:06] zus: :-) you can set sudo to passwordless [04:06] and KDM if you like [04:06] then anyone can turn on your computer and do anything they like with no prompts :) [04:07] i don't mind the psswd. keeps ppl out hehe [04:08] zus: That's kinda the point of a password eh? Would suck if you needed one to cross the street [04:09] yes! i like the passwd but wish i can disable it for when im on... maybe set it for when i walk away or lock my screen [04:09] zus: the password for sudo has a timer on it. If you get it right it won't ask you again for 15 minutes after that [04:10] exactly is there a way to extend that 15 minutes to a custom time limit? [04:10] per user account? [04:14] having trouble now finding DeVeDe [04:14] zus, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Change_default_timeout_in_sudo [04:14] you may have to enable other repositories for devede [04:14] oh, that page was deleted [04:14] nvm link [04:17] i dont see a ppa for it on thier site [04:18] i got the linux version of the download, debian based for ubuntu it said [04:18] ahaha! === anzenketh|BBL is now known as anzenketh [04:19] to change sudo timeout: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4767816&postcount=5 [04:20] BRILLIANT!! [04:20] thanks [04:20] no problem [04:20] now for the dolphin hehe, im used to double clicking everything... [04:21] it opens on single click, and music files dont play on hover....brb [04:22] zus: System Settings -> Mouse -> change to double click [04:22] zus: The preview at the side has a player You can browse the same directory looking at other things while hearing the song [04:23] or switch away to another program. Which is how I'm listening to a tribe called quest while I"m typing this [04:23] I just use amarok to play my music :) [04:24] aperson: I use Kaffiene but sometimes I want to hear one quick song or sound file. Dolphin works fine for that [04:24] different strokes for different folks :) [04:25] actually i used rhythmbox iin gnome. but had a bunch of others installed to "try" but after using amorok i like it alot, lyrics, info, wikipedia gesh where was this when i switch to linux [04:25] I keep amarok running all the time, so it's easy for me to just queue up a song quick [04:25] And KDE offers options for nearly all strokes :) [04:25] indeed [04:25] aperson: Yeah I have 600 MB of RAM so not likely I'll have that sitting fallow [04:26] I have four gigs to play with on my desktop [04:26] the looking glass project video on youtube made me wnat linux,,, so i googeled andd found ubuntu... [04:26] my eeepc is constrained to 1gb though, I have to watch that [04:27] zus: Welcome to LInux and Kubuntu! [04:28] * zus bows [04:28] ya i've never used irc b4 ubuntu user day either [04:28] aint no fun being a newbie though. took a few years to get where i was with winXP... [04:29] * aperson grumbles something about firefox wanting to open up all of his downloads with ark [04:29] zus: It took you a few years to get to where you were with XP in XP [04:30] yeah i had my xp customized i had no prob using it [04:30] hehe, if you like customization... [04:31] i knew a thing or two about fixing broken things... till i found linux haha [04:31] its like learning all over again. [04:31] zus: I get superbly frustrated trying to fix things in Windows [04:31] fixing things in linux is much easier, imho [04:32] i was nothing amazing but i was the family go to guy...now after using linux i cant spend 5 minutes in windows,,, [04:33] i use it for ableton live and reason 4.0 making music. it takes forever to load... [04:33] I've reduced my need for windows to a small virtual machine that's only to use my scanner with [04:35] thanks for reminding me - i got to grab virtual box.....maybe ill wait for lucid... aint no sense in doing this to do it again in a few weeks [04:36] hey, I changed something and now my desktop has the plasma workspace and I can't see my desktop icons unless I use compiz transparency (like move cube), how do I get my icons back? [04:36] on this machine i dont think ill change eveery 6 months afteer lucid [04:37] you can just update [04:37] you don't need to re-install, zus [04:37] mcurran, so you're using compiz? [04:37] yes [04:37] aperson, isnt a fresh install best for everythin? [04:38] zus, it's nice to have a fresh start, but I don't think it's quite the same for kubuntu as it is for vanilla ubuntu [04:38] I'm actually using backtrack 4 and i tried to download screensavers and after restart my desktop was all messed up, I configured background but there are no icons, so when I use cube rotate, I can see my old desktop underneath [04:38] that's really weird [04:39] is plasma some kind of widget layer I can remove? If so, what package. [04:39] plasma is your desktop [04:39] I don't mind the look, but I want my old desktop icons back [04:39] !backtrack [04:39] There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux) [04:39] and I cant change my old background to solid, so it just looks funky when transparent - like two desktops [04:40] not to be a put-off, but if you're using backtrack, your best help is in #backtrack-linux or #kde, mcurran [04:40] I'm banned from there [04:40] that's why I came here [04:40] from both? [04:41] not #kde, but what's the difference [04:41] I'd go to #kde then [04:41]