[00:16] <zus> can anyone please help me i dont understand what went wrong, i installed kde4.4 and now it looks as if there is a gui over the old kubuntu i can see it right through the new  task bar
[00:23] <melissawm> zus: can you be more specific? do you have desktop effects turned on? can you open the k menu?
[00:23] <zus> melissawm:  yes, i can open the k menu and no desk top effects are on.
[00:25] <melissawm> so what is exactly the problem?
[00:25] <melissawm> sorry, zus, that was for you
[00:25] <zus> melissawm: fresh install pretty much i added a few programs and did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade then i installed kde 4.4 and after the install and update on reboot it seems like there is two gui's over each other
[00:26] <melissawm> zus: are you sure it's not just 2 panels? i've had that happen to me
[00:33] <zus> i can see the old panel behind the new one, i can see the 4 desktop but can click them. the old speaker icon and time beneath the new panel
[00:38] <melissawm> zus: just try removing this new panel and i think you'll be ok
[00:39] <melissawm> zus: click on the panel to unlock the widgets, and click again to see the panel options, and "remove this panel"
[00:39] <zus> melissawm:  it looks like kde4.4 is over top of the default 9.10 like the live disc
[00:40] <zus> im also looking on the forums aint found anything yet
[00:40] <melissawm> zus: i have had this happen to me here, but it's not like a whole new gui, just two panels on top of each other. once i remove one of them, all is well
[00:41] <zus> how about the desktop folder?
[00:44] <zus> melissawm:  figured out how to remove the panel just as you said, thank you that seemed to have worked. thank you kindly
[00:45] <melissawm> zus: glad to have helped! :)
[00:48] <zus> melissawm: 4.4.1 is the latest stable kde correct?
[00:48] <zus> for 9.10 anyways?
[00:51] <melissawm> zus: actually i'm not sure if it's completely stable
[00:53] <claydoh> zus: I'd recommend it, though in 9.10 4.3.5 is more tested atm
[00:54] <zus> melissawm:  so im teetering on the verge hehe?
[00:55] <melissawm> zus: well it's been pretty stable for me but technically, yeah :P
[00:58] <zus> melissawm: one more thing? thank you for all the help btw, i prefer xchat over quassel...i tried to install it and it said i dont have the necessary privialedges to perform this action, how do i do that?
[00:59] <melissawm> zus: are you on the terminal or on synaptic or kpackagekit? if you're on the terminal, try typing "sudo" in front of your command "apt-get install.."
[00:59] <melissawm> if it's synaptic or kpackagekit, it usually should ask you for your password
[01:00] <zus> im in kpackgekit.
[01:01] <abstrakt> anyone awake?
[01:02] <abstrakt> trying to switch to KDE
[01:02] <abstrakt> want to get internet (wireless/WWAN) working
[01:02] <claydoh> zus: are you logged in to your main user account? the first one  you created?
[01:02] <abstrakt> in gnome it has a wireless applet already in the panel, and i can "just connect" to either regular wireless networks or to my WWAN card
[01:02] <abstrakt> how do i set that up in KDE?
[01:03] <melissawm> zus: did you open kpackagekit from the k menu? weird, it should prompt you for your password
[01:03] <zus> claydoh:  yes its the only account  on here
[01:03] <claydoh> there was an old bug - try this :
[01:04] <claydoh> type alt-f2 keys, and type in 'kdesudo kpackagekit'
[01:04] <claydoh> then try  to update your system
[01:04] <abstrakt> is there an equivalent app/applet i should use to get this functionality?
[01:04] <claydoh> from there
[01:04] <melissawm> abstrakt: usually you don't have to setup anything, you should have a network manager plasmoid on your system tray, try to connect and enter your wireless information (ssid, password etc)
[01:04] <abstrakt> anyone know how to bring up the wireless eth interface on cli in ubuntu?
[01:04] <claydoh> zus: sorry have to run :(
[01:04] <abstrakt> melissawm, hmm, aight i didn't see one, what does it look like?
[01:05] <melissawm> if you're disconnected it should look like a disconnected ethernet cable or something like that :P
[01:05] <zus> claydoh:  ty
[01:05] <CTek> abstrakt what card do you have ?
[01:05] <abstrakt> dell 1440
[01:05] <abstrakt> i thought there were commands like ifup
[01:05] <abstrakt> or ifconfig up
[01:06] <CTek> yes there is but not ifconfig
[01:06] <CTek> iwconfig or something by that
[01:06] <zus> melissawm:  brb gonna try claydoh's idea.
[01:06] <CTek> search on google for atheros how-tos
[01:07] <melissawm> zus: ok, hope that works
[01:07] <CTek> there are methods described there on how to activate from cli
[01:07] <CTek> sorry for not knowing the actual command
[01:07] <zus> abstrakt:  did you enable wireless? is that checked  ?
[01:07] <melissawm> i have to go now too. have a nice one!
[01:07] <abstrakt> zus, checked where?
[01:07] <abstrakt> zus, i'm in GNOME right now, so i can use xchat
[01:07] <CTek> is it "phisicaly" on ?
[01:08] <abstrakt> looks like it's eth2
[01:08] <CTek> does the led (if you have one) on ?
[01:08] <abstrakt> so says iwconfig
[01:08] <abstrakt> CTek, i'm on it right now... on GNOME
[01:08] <CTek> :)
[01:08] <abstrakt> maybe i'll retry KDE and look for the wireless applet
[01:08] <abstrakt> brb
[01:08] <CTek> k
[01:09] <zus> abstrakt:  both in gnome and here in kubuntu i had to click the enable wireless
[01:09] <CTek> zus, actualy he may have a point... i did not need to activate the wireless...
[01:10] <CTek> but if he did a "custom" install he could missed the network-monitor pkg
[01:10] <zus> ahhh take thier advice they know betterthan me heheh im new too
[01:11] <zus> on been using linux since 2 week b4 9.10. ill be back in a sec...
[01:11] <CTek> not a problem :) we all learn something , i learn from you you from me etc and this is how we exchange information :)
[01:15] <zus> CTek: i agree, i learned from melissawm hehe
[01:16] <abstrakt> ok, up on the wireless
[01:16] <abstrakt> but the wwan doesn't want to autoconfigure
[01:16] <CTek> :)
[01:16] <abstrakt> it wants me to put in a username on password
[01:16] <abstrakt> on GNOME, it... like... just connects and stuff
[01:16] <CTek> ok
[01:17] <CTek> have you tried to run knetworkmanager ?
[01:17] <abstrakt> i dunno how it autosenses, but obviously there's data stored in the hardware/firmware/bios of this little card with my number and login info and stuff
[01:17] <abstrakt> CTek, not yet
[01:17] <abstrakt> damn, i don't even know if this is GSM or CDMA
[01:18] <abstrakt> i don't think it's either, it's EVDO
[01:18] <CTek> start knet.. from gnome and it will ask you if you want it to start automatically and see from there...
[01:18] <abstrakt> or is EVDO actually GSM
[01:18] <abstrakt> i can't remember
[01:18] <CTek> no evdo is not gsm
[01:18] <CTek> :)
[01:18] <abstrakt> CTek, blah, so i have to reboot back into gnome and start knet?
[01:18] <CTek> no
[01:19] <CTek> open a terminal and run the command
[01:19] <CTek> it will override your current network manager
[01:19] <CTek> if i'm not mistaking ... :)
[01:20] <abstrakt> hmm, knet isn't installed, installing now
[01:20] <CTek> not knet, knetworkmanager
[01:21] <CTek> i don't know for shure but i think that they are different programs
[01:21] <abstrakt> ok i ran knetworkmanager from console
[01:21] <abstrakt> waiting
[01:21] <abstrakt> do i need to run it from sudo?
[01:21] <CTek> no
[01:22] <CTek> with your current credentials should work (at least in my system it did)
[01:22] <abstrakt> well nothing happened
[01:22] <abstrakt> nothing that i saw
[01:22] <abstrakt> it just dumped backed to the command prompt
[01:22] <CTek> with prompt ?
[01:22] <abstrakt> CTek, ?
[01:23] <abstrakt> CTek, what do you mean "with prompt"
[01:23] <CTek> do you ee the prompt line or the terminal is it busy ?
[01:23] <abstrakt> no it dumped me back to the prompt
[01:23] <abstrakt> i see the prompt
[01:23] <CTek> hm...
[01:23] <abstrakt> the terminal is not busy, it's done
[01:23] <abstrakt> which knetworkmanager says /usr/bin/knetworkmanager
[01:23] <CTek> did it give you some msg ?
[01:23] <abstrakt> nope
[01:23] <abstrakt> nothing
[01:24] <CTek> wait 1 sec
[01:24] <abstrakt> CTek, i had to run it as sudo
[01:24] <abstrakt> ok apparently knetworkmanager is now default
[01:24] <zus> after doing alt f2 and kdesudo kpackagekit what do i do next?
[01:25] <abstrakt> CTek, i got that dialog you were talking about
[01:25] <CTek> so now you see the manager ?
[01:25] <abstrakt> CTek, what manager?
[01:25] <abstrakt> CTek, no i don't see anything
[01:25] <abstrakt> it still dumped me back to the command prompt again
[01:26] <CTek> run apt-get and see if it is installed with all the dependencies
[01:26] <abstrakt> i did get something about unable to register service QBusError
[01:26] <abstrakt> CTek, ?
[01:26] <abstrakt> CTek, not sure how it would have gotten installed withou its dependencies
[01:26] <abstrakt> CTek, plz tell me you're not just talking about the system tray applet?
[01:26] <abstrakt> CTek, cuz that's running... i'm on the wireless network here
[01:27] <abstrakt> CTek, so step one...
[01:27] <CTek> no i'm refering about the network config
[01:27] <CTek> step one is to see if you have it installed ok
[01:28] <CTek> run apt-get check...
[01:28] <zus> O.o nothing it worked!!
[01:28] <zus> brb gonna check somethign
[01:29] <abstrakt> CTek, sudo apt-get check knetworkmanager?
[01:29] <CTek> just check
[01:30] <abstrakt> it just says Done and Done
[01:30] <CTek> ok
[01:30] <CTek> beside the "icon" have you seen any network manager open ?
[01:31] <abstrakt> CTek, well i opened up the network control panel
[01:31] <abstrakt> dunno if that qualifies as a network manager
[01:31] <abstrakt> but there was a place in there for broadband connections
[01:31] <CTek> ok
[01:31] <abstrakt> but i don't know any of the details of this cell card really
[01:31] <CTek> ...
[01:31] <abstrakt> it's all automatic on windows, and it was automatic on ubuntu, one day i just noticed it was there
[01:31] <abstrakt> CTek, i mean, i have to enter my phone number into the windows connection application, but i don't enter a password or anything
[01:32] <CTek> can you get more info from windows ?
[01:32] <abstrakt> CTek, and in GNOME i didn't have to enter any of that, it just connected for me one day
[01:32] <abstrakt> CTek, er, maybe?
[01:32] <abstrakt> CTek, doubt it, that connection manager seems pretty opaque
[01:32] <abstrakt> CTek, how bout this... how do I move my panel to the top of the screen?
[01:33] <abstrakt> we'll go to something simpler :)
[01:33] <CTek> ?
[01:33] <CTek> are you serious about the panel ??
[01:34] <abstrakt> CTek, very
[01:35] <CTek> maybe someone with more experience in customizing your desktop should answer that...
[01:38] <abstrakt> CTek, figured it out
[01:39] <abstrakt> wtf?
[01:39] <fermos> omly in english here?
[01:39] <abstrakt> no way, i can't move a widget to the right?
[01:39] <abstrakt> i stays suck...
[01:39] <CTek> it's locked
[01:39] <fermos> en español no, no?
[01:39] <CTek> try right click and uncheck lock
[01:41] <abstrakt> CTek, there is no such option
[01:42] <CTek> explain how you can't move ?
[01:44] <fabio333> !es | <fermos>
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[01:47] <abstrakt> CTek, the panel applets won't honor absolute position
[01:47] <abstrakt> CTek, they always snap to nearest neighbor
[01:47] <abstrakt> CTek, how do i add an applet to my quicklaunch that comes from the K menu?
[01:47] <abstrakt> lol, nm figured it out
[01:49] <zus> how do i watch dvd's now? i put it in the drive, but nothing is going on. im used to gnome where it pops up on the desktop...
[01:50] <CTek> abstract, i think that it uold be best to search/read some how-to's on how to customize your desktop, i can help you anly so much, or if some other users here are willing to help.
[01:53] <abstrakt> CTek, meh, i've got it basically setup now
[02:00] <daskreech> Argh. How do I get Xorg/ xrandr to give me a list of proper resolutions?
[02:01] <zus> i got it to play discs woot, i feel smart
[02:01]  * zus smiles
[02:01]  * daskreech grins at zus
[02:06] <daskreech> !resolution
[02:07] <abstrakt> omg, my desktops went horizontal on me
[02:07] <abstrakt> now i can't get them to go back vertical
[02:07] <abstrakt> wtf
[02:08] <abstrakt> omg, now capslock is backwards
[02:08] <abstrakt> holy crap
[02:08] <abstrakt> how do i get my desktops to go vertical again?
[02:12] <abstrakt> and, now all my gtk apps look like shit
[02:13] <abstrakt> how do i get the GTK themes while running KDE?
[02:13] <abstrakt> CTek, ?
[02:13] <CTek> select the proper window manager
[02:13] <abstrakt> CTek, er... select it where?
[02:14] <CTek> depending on what you have installed it is possible to change themes
[02:14] <CTek> from control panel
[02:15] <daskreech> CTek: Any clue on how to get something reflecting a real resolution in the Display KCM module?
[02:15] <CTek> look & feel appearance
[02:15] <abstrakt> ahah, well i figured out the pager situation
[02:16] <CTek> daskreech, sorry i do not know...
[02:17] <daskreech> ok no problems
[02:30] <kaitos_> Could someone point me to directions for the best way to set up a KDE development environment on Kubuntu?
[02:31] <daskreech> kaitos_: http://Techbase.kde.org
[02:31] <mahdi> any one from iran
[02:33] <abstrakt> ok, so what gives, is viewing folder contents incompatible with having a desktop background or what?
[02:34] <kaitos_> abstrakt: what do you mean exactly?
[02:51] <daskreech> Wow
[02:51] <daskreech> Xorg hates me
[02:56] <zus> i have no audio in youtube. on Kubuntu 9.10 KDE4.4 just installed today can anyone help please?
[02:57] <zus> using firefox
[02:59] <kaitos> zus: is pulseaudio installed?
[03:00] <zus> kaitos,  i dont know, my dvd plays fine, though
[03:02] <zus> kaitos,  amorok is playing an mp3 just fine
[03:02] <zus> im new to kubuntu/linux
[03:02] <zus> audio seems to be working just youtube has no audio
[03:06] <kaitos> zus: type "dpkg -l | grep pulseaudio" into a terminal
[03:06] <zus> kaitos i figured it out. i right clicked the speacker icon and clicked mixer window and raised pcm all the way up.
[03:07] <zus> kaitos ok what is this im typing? so as to learn terminal commands please
[03:08] <abstrakt> ok wtf, lol where are the compiz settings again?
[03:08] <abstrakt> i was just in there, can't find them anymore
[03:09] <ubuntu> system preferences compiz
[03:09] <abstrakt> nm, got it
[03:09] <abstrakt> ubuntu, i went to the "classic tree view"
[03:09] <ubuntu> lol
[03:09] <abstrakt> it's actually under "desktop"
[03:09] <abstrakt> ok, now how do I turn off the scrolling function on my trackpad?
[03:10] <ubuntu> all depends on where you put it really
[03:10] <zus> do you need emerald to use compiz? i seen a video where the window borders disapear with out emerlad
[03:10] <ubuntu> different flavors may default put it in different directories too
[03:12] <ubuntu> lol your using linux you can pretty much do whatever you want to do if you learn how
[03:12] <zus> ubuntu,  thats why i love linux!! hehe
[03:12] <ubuntu> me too lol
[03:13] <zus> i've been using since 2 week before 9.10 release in the few months i learned a lot. ALOT!
[03:13] <kaitos> zus: 'dpkg' can add, remove, or with the '-l' flag list packages installed on your system. the | makes the output from dpkg -l flow into the "grep" command. the grep command looks for the text pulseaudio
[03:13] <zus> thanks to the communtiy.
[03:14] <ubuntu> ubuntu has some of the best support from the community i've ever seen out of the many flavors of linux and unix i've used
[03:15] <zus> kaitos this outputs a file of what is or isnt installed? as far as pulse audio goes in this case?
[03:15] <abstrakt> how do i A) swap capslock and ctrl and B) set a hotkey for switching between desktops?
[03:15] <ubuntu> im liking 9.10 cant wait to see what the next one has in store for us
[03:15] <kaitos> zus: dpkg -l shows everything that is installed on your system
[03:16] <ubuntu> man i got a court summons in the morning for jury duty i think i'd rather get fined a grand than go to that crap lol
[03:16] <zus> ubuntu,  make sure that fine dont come with time to serve
[03:16] <ubuntu> ah i could care less take a couple day break from real life kick back with the homies :P
[03:16] <zus> kaitos, i did it in terminal...konsole and i got nothing
[03:17] <zus> ubuntu,  the food is horrible
[03:17] <ubuntu> i know i've been to jail once or twice in my life
[03:17] <zus> kaitos,  i even copied and paste what you put in case i typed it wrong still nothing
[03:18] <kaitos> zus: that means pulseaudio isn't installed :) just type in dpkg -l to see what packages are installed
[03:18] <zus> ubuntu,  i was lucky i went and judge threw everything out except driving w/o a liscence and gave me time serfved for the 12 hours i was in
[03:19] <zus> kaitos,  i get it now,... shiny.
[03:20] <zus> thats a long list, im amazed its only a 10gig root
[03:21] <zus> ubuntu,  my judge was nice,  judge phill yacucci ...true story.  thats his name
[03:28] <zus> will gnome-do work alright with kubuntu?
[03:29] <daskreech> zus: yes
[03:32] <zus> daskreech,  thank you. i enjoyed using it in gnome.
[03:32] <daskreech> zus: Enjoy. Try krunner
[03:33] <zus> daskreech,  whats krunner?
[03:33] <daskreech> zus: press alt+f2
[03:33] <zus> ok
[03:34] <daskreech> zus: It's pretty powerful
[03:35] <zus> daskreech,  is it basically the same thing as gnome do? appears to be
[03:37] <daskreech> zus: Just about
[03:40] <zus> daskreech,  thanks :D
[03:41] <daskreech> zus: it has a help. YOu can learn more about the key words
[03:41] <daskreech> zus: things like =200x300
[03:42] <aperson> it also has two modes
[03:42] <aperson> once you bring it up, you can configure it a bit
[03:42] <zus> daskreech,  ill definatley look into that, im still making sure i have my stuff i need for everyday use
[03:43] <daskreech> zus: Wise. What else do you need?
[03:43] <zus> aperson,  i seen that floating window and the task search..
[03:43] <zus> daskreech,  kompzer and cssed
[03:45] <zus> daskreech, i also want to see what kwin does and check out the dolphin file manager
[03:45] <aperson> haha, I just had krunner crash
[03:45] <wizkoder> dolphin does not work with context menu of kdesvn. will this work in 10.04? does anybody know?
[03:45] <zus> dont tell a new person that lol
[03:45] <daskreech> wizkoder: kdesvn ?
[03:46] <wizkoder> daskreech: kde subversion client. very nice program
[03:46] <daskreech> wizkoder: It's built into Dolphin. You don't need kdesvn
[03:47] <amstan> hey guys.. this is really annoying, plasma-desktop keeps crashing
[03:47] <amstan> that's fine
[03:47] <amstan> but before i could just restart it by killing it and restarting it with plasma-desktop&
[03:47] <amstan> now that doesn't work anymore
[03:47] <amstan> what do i do?
[03:47] <wizkoder> daskreech: how does it work then?
[03:48] <daskreech> wizkoder: once you have a svn directory  your right click options should have svn commands
[03:48] <wizkoder> wizkoder: ah, you mean it will be integrated in dolphin in 10.04?
[03:49] <wizkoder> daskreech: ah, you mean it will be integrated in dolphin in 10.04?
[03:49] <daskreech> wizkoder: Yes
[03:50] <zus> am i going to have to do alt f2  kdesudo kpackagekit when i want to install something everytime?
[03:51] <aperson> zus, you should just be able to run kpackagekit
[03:51] <aperson> iirc
[03:52] <zus> aperson,  no this is the second time i had it happen it says i dont have the privilege to install somethin
[03:53] <zus> i actually like synaptic package manager much better or the ubuntu software center
[03:53] <aperson> zus, right click on your menu and go to the menu editor
[03:53] <aperson> from there you can go to settings>kpackagekit
[03:53] <aperson> you can add kdesu onto the beginning of the command to run it
[03:54] <ubuntu> synaptic package manager has also been around longer
[03:54] <aperson> then every time you alt+f2, it will ask for your password
[03:54] <aperson> I rather aptitude :)
[03:54] <aperson> also, zus you can change the keybinding from alt+f2 if you'd like
[03:55] <ubuntu> tryin to make his brain blow up or what :P
[03:55] <zus> lol
[03:55] <aperson> just trying to give pertinent information
[03:55] <zus> ok under command i type kdesudo?
[03:56] <aperson> add it to the command
[03:56] <aperson> it should say: kdesu kpackagekit -caption "%c" %i %F
[03:56] <aperson> then hit save
[03:56] <zus> any diferance in kdesu  VS kdesudo ?
[03:56] <daskreech> zus: install synaptic it works in Kubuntu
[03:57] <aperson> yes, by all means, if you prefer synaptic, go ahead, you'll have to do the same for it as you're doing for kpackagekit, afaik
[03:58] <aperson> zus, kdesu runs as root, kdesudo runs with root privileges, iirc
[04:00] <zus> aperson,  similar to apt-get and aptitude? one is better for certain thiings
[04:00] <aperson> sure
[04:01] <aperson> aptitude is a package manager like synaptic or kpackagekit
[04:01] <aperson> I'd never run apt-get by itself, personally
[04:01] <aperson> but that is a point of argument for some
[04:02] <zus> once save just close the window
[04:03] <aperson> yessir
[04:03] <zus> lets give this a go.
[04:04] <zus> thanks everyone by the way for all help and comments i do appritiate it
[04:05] <zus> ok it asks for my password now.....ok im cool with that, (even though im the only user)
[04:06] <daskreech> zus: :-) you can set sudo to passwordless
[04:06] <daskreech> and KDM if you like
[04:06] <daskreech> then anyone can turn on your computer and do anything they like with no prompts :)
[04:07] <zus> i don't mind the psswd. keeps ppl out hehe
[04:08] <daskreech> zus: That's kinda the point of a password eh? Would suck if you needed one to cross the street
[04:09] <zus> yes! i like the passwd but wish i can disable it for when im on... maybe set it for when i walk away or lock my screen
[04:09] <daskreech> zus: the password for sudo has a timer on it. If you get it right it won't ask you again for 15 minutes after that
[04:10] <zus> exactly is there a way to extend that 15 minutes to a custom time limit?
[04:10] <zus> per user account?
[04:14] <zus> having trouble now finding DeVeDe
[04:14] <aperson> zus, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Change_default_timeout_in_sudo
[04:14] <aperson> you may have to enable other repositories for devede
[04:14] <aperson> oh, that page was deleted
[04:14] <aperson> nvm link
[04:17] <zus> i dont see a ppa for it on thier site
[04:18] <zus> i got the linux version of the download, debian based for ubuntu it said
[04:18] <aperson> ahaha!
[04:19] <aperson> to change sudo timeout: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4767816&postcount=5
[04:20] <zus> BRILLIANT!!
[04:20] <zus> thanks
[04:20] <aperson> no problem
[04:20] <zus> now for the dolphin hehe, im used to double clicking everything...
[04:21] <zus> it opens on single click, and music files dont play on hover....brb
[04:22] <daskreech> zus: System Settings -> Mouse -> change to double click
[04:22] <daskreech> zus: The preview at the side has a player You can browse the same directory looking at other things while hearing the song
[04:23] <daskreech> or switch away to another program. Which is how I'm listening to a tribe called quest while I"m typing this
[04:23] <aperson> I just use amarok to play my music :)
[04:24] <daskreech> aperson: I use Kaffiene but sometimes I want to hear one quick song or sound file. Dolphin works fine for that
[04:24] <aperson> different strokes for different folks :)
[04:25] <zus> actually i used rhythmbox iin gnome. but had a bunch of others installed to "try"  but after using amorok i like it alot,  lyrics, info, wikipedia gesh where was this when i switch to linux
[04:25] <aperson> I keep amarok running all the time, so it's easy for me to just queue up a song quick
[04:25] <daskreech> And KDE offers options for nearly all strokes :)
[04:25] <aperson> indeed
[04:25] <daskreech> aperson: Yeah I have 600 MB of RAM so not likely I'll have that sitting fallow
[04:26] <aperson> I have four gigs to play with on my desktop
[04:26] <zus> the looking glass project video on youtube made me wnat linux,,, so i googeled andd found ubuntu...
[04:26] <aperson> my eeepc is constrained to 1gb though, I have to watch that
[04:27] <daskreech> zus: Welcome to LInux and Kubuntu!
[04:28]  * zus bows 
[04:28] <zus> ya i've never used irc b4 ubuntu user day either
[04:28] <zus> aint no fun being a newbie though. took a few years to get where i was with winXP...
[04:29]  * aperson grumbles something about firefox wanting to open up all of his downloads with ark
[04:29] <daskreech> zus: It took you a few years to get to where you were with XP in XP
[04:30] <zus> yeah i had my xp customized i had no prob using it
[04:30] <aperson> hehe, if you like customization...
[04:31] <zus> i knew a thing or two about fixing broken things... till i found linux haha
[04:31] <zus> its like learning all over again.
[04:31] <daskreech> zus: I get superbly frustrated trying to fix things in Windows
[04:31] <aperson> fixing things in linux is much easier, imho
[04:32] <zus> i was nothing amazing but i was the family go to guy...now after using linux i cant spend 5 minutes in windows,,,
[04:33] <zus> i use it for ableton live and reason 4.0 making music. it takes forever to load...
[04:33] <aperson> I've reduced my need for windows to a small virtual machine that's only to use my scanner with
[04:35] <zus> thanks for reminding me - i got to grab virtual box.....maybe ill wait for lucid... aint no sense in doing this to do it again in a few weeks
[04:36] <mcurran> hey, I changed something and now my desktop has the plasma workspace and I can't see my desktop icons unless I use compiz transparency (like move cube), how do I get my icons back?
[04:36] <zus> on this machine i dont think ill change eveery 6 months afteer lucid
[04:37] <aperson> you can just update
[04:37] <aperson> you don't need to re-install, zus
[04:37] <aperson> mcurran, so you're using compiz?
[04:37] <mcurran> yes
[04:37] <zus> aperson,  isnt a fresh install best for everythin?
[04:38] <aperson> zus, it's nice to have a fresh start, but I don't think it's quite the same for kubuntu as it is for vanilla ubuntu
[04:38] <mcurran> I'm actually using backtrack 4 and i tried to download screensavers and after restart my desktop was all messed up, I configured background but there are no icons, so when I use cube rotate, I can see my old desktop underneath
[04:38] <aperson> that's really weird
[04:39] <mcurran> is plasma some kind of widget layer I can remove?  If so, what package.
[04:39] <aperson> plasma is your desktop
[04:39] <mcurran> I don't mind the look, but I want my old desktop icons back
[04:39] <aperson> !backtrack
[04:39] <mcurran> and I cant change my old background to solid, so it just looks funky when transparent - like two desktops
[04:40] <aperson> not to be a put-off, but if you're using backtrack, your best help is in #backtrack-linux or #kde, mcurran
[04:40] <mcurran> I'm banned from there
[04:40] <mcurran> that's why I came here
[04:40] <aperson> from both?
[04:41] <mcurran> not #kde, but what's the difference
[04:41] <aperson> I'd go to #kde then
[04:41] <zus> i was using ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop and had all my gnome with it wile it was good i had a few hang ups. cursor flickering and slow gui felt sluggish
[04:41] <aperson> just trying to direct you to the place with the best support for you, mcurran
[04:42] <zus> lol i asked for help in ubuntu about my pgp key they sent me here/ here sent me there/ its still unresolved
[04:43] <aperson> zus, what about it?
[04:43] <mcurran> Yeah, gnome is way better
[04:44] <mcurran> Wish they just used that for backtrack 4
[04:44] <aperson> well #backtrack-linux is the place for backtrack discussion
[04:44] <zus> i made it in ubuntu now im in kubuntu how do i get it back? i have it saved in my thumb drive but before today when i used it it didnt decrypt nothing
[04:45] <mcurran> well nobody is talking or anything in #kde
[04:45] <aperson> you have encrypted files that you encrypted with your gpg key, that you saved on your flashdrive, correct zus ?
[04:46] <mcurran> Does anyone know what plasma is - I checked synaptic and all I have installed is libplasma so that shouldn't be the issue
[04:46] <aperson> mcurran, patience is a virtue
[04:47] <zus> aperson,  saved the .gnupgp file from gnome on my thumb drive...and when i copied and pasted in here it didnt do anything to the encrytped email i had
[04:48] <daskreech> zus: Lucid is LTS so you can sit on it For 2 years if you are patient
[04:49] <daskreech> I'm not :)
[04:49] <daskreech> mcurran: are you using Gnome or KDe?
[04:49] <aperson> zus, do you have gnupg-agent gnupg2 an pinentry-qt installed?
[04:49] <zus> well i want to sit and call something home and maybe dual boot every 6 months to keep up
[04:50] <zus> aperson,  no unless its default install from live disc
[04:50] <racerd> what is the command to install kubuntu?
[04:50] <racerd> the desktop
[04:50] <daskreech> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:50] <aperson> racerd, you want to install kubuntu-desktop
[04:50] <zus> racerd,  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:50] <racerd> apt-get different from aptitude then
[04:50]  * aperson would say sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop , but that may just be him
[04:51] <racerd> i have it installed
[04:51] <daskreech> aperson: Judging by the lines above you, you LIE!!!
[04:51] <aperson> racerd, aptitude is a package manager, it handles apt
[04:51] <racerd> but no one can tell me how to switch between them
[04:51] <aperson> racerd, log out
[04:51]  * zus agrees with aperson im new but it worked for me
[04:51] <daskreech> racerd: Switch between?
[04:51] <aperson> and then select kde in the session menu
[04:51] <racerd> yeah w/o using the login screen
[04:51] <aperson> can't
[04:52] <racerd> since it doesn't work
[04:52] <racerd> aperson
[04:52] <racerd> you can
[04:52] <daskreech> racerd: Oh Gnome and KDE? On the Login screen Thre is a button marked sessions. Click it and choose KDE or GNome (or fluxbox etc) as you see fit
[04:52] <racerd> scroll up
[04:52] <daskreech> racerd: What do you mean without using the Login screen?
[04:52] <racerd> that isn't an opetion
[04:52] <racerd> its bugged
[04:52] <daskreech> racerd: How so?
[04:52] <aperson> racerd, the only other way I can think of is you can change the gnome-session from gnome
[04:52] <aperson> and then logout and log back in
[04:53] <racerd> yeah seems like a sound theory if it wasn't broken
[04:53] <aperson> or you could possibly open up a tty and kill gdm and start kdm
[04:53] <racerd> i get a "permission denied
[04:53] <daskreech> racerd: What's broken and how is it broken?
[04:53] <racerd> wait what did you say person?
[04:53] <racerd> gdm
[04:53] <racerd> sweet
[04:54] <racerd> that does help lol
[04:54] <daskreech> racerd: sudo service gdm stop && sudo service kdm start
[04:54] <racerd> yeah
[04:54] <racerd> that would work
[04:54] <racerd> one sec :)
[04:55] <aperson> zus, http://zerlinna.blogspot.com/2006/02/get-gpg-decryption-working-within.html
[04:55] <aperson> I was reading that, it's from 06, but it may still be relevant
[04:57] <aperson> and of course there's https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[04:59] <zus> aperson,  thanks brb  afk
[05:00] <racerd> that doesn't work
[05:00] <racerd> sudo service kdm start doesn't work
[05:03] <racerd> any other ideas
[05:03] <aperson> well, does kdm exist?
[05:04] <aperson> does it tab-complete when you do sudo service kd<tab>
[05:04] <zus> im back
[05:04] <racerd> maybe kde runs on top of gdm
[05:04] <racerd> i don't know
[05:04] <racerd> no
[05:04] <racerd> it doesn't
[05:05] <aperson> then it isn't installed I suppose
[05:05] <racerd> do i need to install it?
[05:05] <aperson> well, it should be installed if you installed kubuntu-desktop
[05:06] <racerd> well that command doesn't work
[05:09] <aperson> you can try installing it
[05:09] <racerd> i have to uninstall it first i guess
[05:09] <racerd> if nothing works guess i can just uninstall it again
[05:09] <aperson> that usually doesn't help
[05:10] <racerd> ?
[05:10] <zus> i have to set up kmail, i had a site that walked you though it anyone know it  so i can get the linnk again?
[05:10] <aperson> can you try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start ?
[05:10] <aperson> zus, http://zerlinna.blogspot.com/2006/02/get-gpg-decryption-working-within.html
[05:10] <aperson> that one?
[05:11] <racerd> it tells me no
[05:11] <zus> no kmail initial set up for gmail, i got the gpg one already :)
[05:11] <aperson> just 'no'?
[05:12] <aperson> ahh, I didn't give the link, so I don't know :S
[05:12] <aperson> zus, what client are you using for irc?
[05:12] <racerd> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[05:12] <racerd> Upstart job, you may also use the start(8) utility, e.g. start kdm
[05:12] <racerd> kdm start/running, process 6599
[05:12] <racerd> racerd@racerd:~$ sudo service kdm start
[05:12] <racerd> kdm start/running, process 6624
[05:12] <FloodBotK1> racerd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:12] <aperson> racerd, well, it's running then
[05:13] <zus> xchat, i got quassel also but had a "time" learning it haha
[05:13] <racerd> hmmm
[05:13] <aperson> zus, do you have logging on?  you can search your logs...
[05:14] <zus> aperson,  does it save on the xchat server? this is a fresh install by the way
[05:15] <aperson> no, the server doesn't save logs
[05:15] <aperson> but this channel should be publicly logged
[05:15] <aperson> and xchat doesn't have a server :)
[05:15] <aperson> you're on freenode
[05:17] <aperson> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/03/25/%23kubuntu.html
[05:17] <racerd> i can start kde
[05:17] <racerd> and it runs on top of gnome
[05:17] <racerd> from console
[05:18] <aperson> did you stop gdm?
[05:18] <racerd> yes
[05:18] <aperson> if you're in gnome, it's still running
[05:18] <racerd> i get shot over to the regular command line linux
[05:18] <aperson> yeah
[05:18] <aperson> that's supposed to happen
[05:18] <aperson> ok
[05:19] <aperson> do this: /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:19] <zus> i just read firefox 3.6 is stable in 9.10 with a walk though for ppa and install.
[05:19] <aperson> then: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:19] <aperson> then start kdm
[05:20] <racerd> 1 2 3 4 5 6racerd@racerd:~$ /etc/init.d/kdm stop Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, e.g. service kdm stop  Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, you may also use the stop(8) utility, e.g. stop kdm
[05:21] <aperson> I don't need the output
[05:21] <aperson> I know it's there
[05:21] <racerd> ssshhh
[05:21] <racerd> it's a bonus
[05:21] <aperson> stop kdm, then stop gdm, once you get to 'the regular command line linux' start kdm
[05:23] <racerd> so with that output did i stop it?
[05:23] <aperson> yep
[05:23] <racerd> k
[05:23] <daskreech> zus: Just follow the instructions on gmail
[05:23] <racerd> see you on the flip side..... errr maybe
[05:26] <racerd> didn't work
[05:26] <racerd> how do i uninstall the kde desktop?
[05:27] <racerd> i will reinstall it and select kde as the default
[05:27] <aperson> sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop
[05:27] <racerd> sweet
[05:27] <aperson> same as installing it
[05:27] <aperson> or use apt-get
[05:27] <aperson> w/e works
[05:30] <racerd> sigh... i didn't get the option to choose the desktop
[05:30] <racerd> must be an ap somewhere that does that
[05:30] <daskreech> !puregnome
[05:30] <aperson> that's it, thanks daskreech
[05:30] <racerd> already present
[05:31] <daskreech> racerd: Just start X and then start kdeinit
[05:31] <pushax> hi all.  how can I easily change gdm to kdm?
[05:31] <racerd> kdeinit?
[05:31] <aperson> pushax, log out and select kde from the session menu
[05:31] <daskreech> pushax: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm and it will ask you
[05:31] <aperson> err
[05:31] <daskreech> racerd: It starts KDE
[05:31] <aperson> never mind me
[05:31] <pushax> aperson: thx
[05:31] <racerd> where do i do that at? an ini file?
[05:31] <pushax> daskreech: thx
[05:32] <aperson> pushax, listen to daskreech , they are much wiser than I
[05:32] <racerd> i understand what it does
[05:32] <pushax> cheers all.  WORKED...
[05:32] <racerd> sigh
[05:32] <racerd> i wished my login screen worked :(
[05:32] <daskreech> racerd: why don't you fix that?
[05:33] <racerd> haven't found how to fix it yet
[05:33] <racerd> when i try to log back it it errors stating, "permission denied"
[05:35] <daskreech> racerd: Tell me what's happeneing
[05:37] <racerd> when i attempt to log back it
[05:37] <racerd> it errors
[05:38] <daskreech> log back it?
[05:38] <daskreech> what's log back it?
[05:38] <racerd> in*
[05:38] <daskreech> ah so you have an auto login for first login?
[05:38] <racerd> it says, "permission denied"
[05:38] <racerd> yes
[05:39] <daskreech> racerd: Ha Bet you have some config file owned by root in your home
[05:39] <racerd> perhaps
[05:40] <daskreech> racerd: nothing else on the error but Permission Denied?
[05:41] <racerd> that's all
[05:41] <racerd> right under the password field
[05:41] <daskreech> racerd: I forget did you try to install KDm ?
[05:41] <racerd> i just tried to reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[05:42] <racerd> didn't launch an option window this time
[05:42] <daskreech> racerd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:56] <aperson> I really love watching #ubuntu go down during a netsplit
[06:00] <daskreech> lol
[06:04] <zus> aperson, what is a net split?, i was reading links i've recieved earlier lol
[06:04] <aperson> !netsplit
[06:05] <zus> lol whats the show?
[06:08] <coon> hello
[06:11] <coon> can someone please help mee
[06:11] <kaitos> with?
[06:12] <coon> im new to linux and i have compiz fusion on here and my res. is way to low and i cant changge it
[06:15] <coon> i get to the screen to change it and it says it maxed
[06:30] <daskreech> coon: hmm?
[06:30] <daskreech> coon: where are you changing the resolution ?
[06:44] <coon> system settings>monitor
[06:48] <imani_> hello
[07:02] <dima> Vsem privet
[07:10] <dsl1118> hey all
[07:14] <dsl1118> hey all. i managed to remove network-manager completely whilst installing other packages. was wondering if there was any way to fix with no internet connectivity.
[07:25] <dsl1118> perhaps a good search string to use to find the answer?
[07:26] <gottto> I don't know that you can without an internet connection dsl1118
[07:28] <dsl1118> i cant think of a way either gottto. i managed to mess it up for my whole bday too
[07:29] <dsl1118> google isnt giving me what i want
[07:30] <gottto> dsl1118: the only way I know is with a comp with the same os installed and copy all relevant files over - sometimes works...
[07:30] <dsl1118> gottto, installation from source wont work?
[07:31] <dsl1118> that seems like a temporary fix though
[07:32] <dsl1118> perhaps installing wicd from source and then installing network-manager
[07:32] <gottto> dsl1118: how would you get the source files?
[07:32] <dsl1118> gottto, i have this box and a flash drive
[07:33] <gottto> dsl1118: that is surely an option then
[07:34] <dsl1118> gottto, I am used to having to find my way out of sticky situations. time to try this
[07:34] <gottto> dsl1118: luck :)
[07:41] <zus> my mail button on my key board dont open mail. even settiing shortcut buttooon dont registeeeeer
[07:41] <zus> and keys are to sensitive
[07:45] <iconmefisto> keys are too sensitive? what does that mean?
[07:46] <gottto> repeat rate maybe?
[07:46] <zus> when i type sometime i get tooooo many leetters
[07:46] <gottto> repeat rate
[07:46] <zus> yeah
[07:46] <zus> kubuutu has a sensitive repeate rate
[07:47] <zus> whats a decent rate?
[07:47] <iconmefisto> zus: systemsettings > keyboard & mouse
[07:48] <zus> yes im here now
[07:49] <iconmefisto> zus: maybe the delay is what you should change, ie, the time it takes before the repeating begins
[07:49] <zus> its at 660 whats a decent deleay?
[07:49] <zus> increaseing it right to stop it?
[07:50] <gottto> yep
[07:51] <zus> alright went from 660 to 770 ill try that out thanks.
[07:51] <iconmefisto> zus: that's up to you to decide, I guess. 1000=1 second delay
[07:52] <zus> i've 7 buttons that dont register with ubuntu and kubuntu
[07:52] <gottto> it might not be the right keyboard selected
[07:53] <zus> i did not see my compaq keyboard in the list though
[07:54] <zus> all my board says is compaq lol no model number
[07:54] <iconmefisto> zus: there's a few compaq keyboards in the list. have you tried them?
[07:55] <zus> how do i get the list after the live disc install
[07:56] <iconmefisto> zus: systemsettings > regional & language, keyboard layout
[07:57] <iconmefisto> zus: enable keyboard layouts and choose a kbd model from the list
[08:07] <daskreech> !resolution > coon
[08:09] <zus> thanks guys..im outta here. night
[08:10] <gottto> :)
[08:18] <Ahmed\> Hi
[08:18] <Ahmed\> Can anyone tell me what is that on left of my desktop with all the applications such as Favourites files and folders and games and everything, how do i turn that thing off ??
[08:22] <gottto> Ahmed\: try clicking an empty space on the desktop - sounds like the menu
[08:23] <iconmefisto> maybe it's the folder view widget?
[08:23] <Ahmed\> I am on Gnome cause all i see is a black screen on KDE with arrow, so i switched to Gnome
[08:23] <Ahmed\> Yes exactly
[08:23] <Ahmed\> I just wanna remove it, i was trying to upgrade to 4.4 KDE
[08:23] <Ahmed\> :)
[08:23] <iconmefisto> Ahmed\: you see this on gnome?
[08:24] <Ahmed\> Yes and on KDE i don't see a thing but desktop is like all black screen
[08:24] <Ahmed\> And no right clicks on desktop either !
[08:25] <gottto> Ahmed\: how did you try to upgrade kde?
[08:25] <Ahmed\> It was sudo apt-get upgrade and then for KDE someone said here so
[08:26] <Ahmed\> isn't this cause of that compizconfig setting manager ?
[08:27] <gottto> Ahmed\: I would turn that off before trying touse a new desktop for the first time...
[08:28] <Ahmed\> I mean how do i just remove all those widgets cause i don't need any on Gnome
[08:28] <gottto> Ahmed\: are you still using compiz?
[08:29] <Ahmed\> Yes i have installed that yesterday and today i am facing this thing !
[08:30] <gottto> Ahmed\: turn compiz off - logout and back in maybe
[08:30] <Ahmed\> Okay
[08:31] <Ahmed\> How do i turn it off ?
[08:31] <gottto> Ahmed\: do you have the compiz setting manager installed?
[08:31] <gottto> !ccsm
[08:32] <Ahmed\> I have CCSM installed i guess that's troubling, i had unmark and i will logout and try in a minute
[08:33] <gottto> k
[08:33] <Ahmed\> Yes its installed actually
[08:34] <gottto> Ahmed\: that will give the option to turn off desktop effects
[08:34] <Ahmed\> In KPackageKit, i am having some updates and some are blocked, which should i install ? all ?
[08:34] <Ahmed\> Okay lemme try
[08:36] <Ahmed\> Uninstalling this won't solve the issue ?
[08:37] <kaniiNIX> Ahmed\: in konsole use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:37] <Ahmed\> What is Kubuntu backports ? its on KpackagKiet shoulud
[08:37] <Ahmed\> Okay after this update finished i will try this sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:38] <gottto> err - that will install the latest kubuntu...
[08:38] <kaniiNIX> you mean v10.x?
[08:38] <Ahmed\> umm
[08:39] <Ahmed\> its written 4.4 thanks
[08:39] <Ahmed\> :)
[08:39] <kaniiNIX> that's the KDE version
[08:39] <Ahmed\> I see
[08:39] <Ahmed\> I'm new on it so i am on KDE 4.3
[08:40] <kaniiNIX> assuming you're using kubuntu and added the KDE SC 4.4 backport repositories
[08:40] <Ahmed\> Yes i mean i can upgrade to it once i solve this screen problem
[08:41] <gottto> compiz might be looking for 4.3 and you have 4.4
[08:41] <kaniiNIX> KDE crashes on load?
[08:41] <Ahmed\> I am not sure really but i will logout now and back in a minute
[08:41] <Ahmed\> yes it did i mean THREE TIMES
[08:42] <Ahmed\> I was ignoring it !
[08:42] <kaniiNIX> what kde version you're using?
[08:43] <Ahmed\> 4.3 but was trying to upgrade to 4.4
[08:43] <kaniiNIX> ok
[08:43] <kaniiNIX> do you have plasmoids that use the internet connection?
[08:43] <Ahmed\> This is working sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:43] <Ahmed\> Should i ?
[08:44] <Ahmed\> Well something called plasma or something did crash on login screen after logging in
[08:44] <Ahmed\> BRB after this logout
[08:56] <Ahmed\> Back !
[08:57] <Ahmed\> Well it was that Netbook launcher and i turned it off at the start up fixed the issue @
[08:58] <Ahmed\> Thank you :)
[09:00] <gottto> Ahmed\: :) well done
[09:01] <Ahmed\> umm Thanks:$ by the way now i havent logged to KDE but instead of that i am on gnome, but 3D isnt wroking maybe cause i had uninstalled Compiz ? or what really canit be ?
[09:01] <Ahmed\> What exactly is this command for sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[09:04] <gottto> it will install the latest version of kubuntu/ubuntu
[09:05] <noaXess_netubu> hey all.. Life moves fast. Don't mis a thing
[09:05] <gottto> !version
[09:05] <Ahmed\> but i just did and its like 37 MB ONLY ? rest of it should i have to download through Kpackagekit ?
[09:06] <gottto> !version | Ahmed\
[09:06] <Ahmed\> I am
[09:06] <gottto> k
[09:06] <Ahmed\> No LSB modules are available.
[09:06] <Ahmed\> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[09:06] <Ahmed\> Description:	Ubuntu 9.10
[09:06] <Ahmed\> Release:	9.10
[09:06] <Ahmed\> Codename:	karmic
[09:06] <FloodBotK1> Ahmed\: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:07] <gottto> that's the latest afaik
[09:07] <Ahmed\> Yes
[09:08] <gottto> Ahmed\: at login - select the session button and choose kde
[09:08] <Ahmed\> I will lemme finish this first plus the network is slow
[09:09] <Ahmed\> Can anyone suggest me, which program should i run at startup (i mean only important ones) not ALL :) would be nice!
[09:11] <gottto> I only change the wallpaper and the clock...
[09:11] <Ahmed\> And rest of it is all Enable ? i mean marked ?
[09:12] <gottto> I run a minmal desktop - nothing but wallpaper and bottom taskbar
[09:13] <gottto> *minimal
[09:13] <Ahmed\> Yeah i see.. and everything else is disabled ? right ?
[09:14] <gottto> yep
[09:14] <Ahmed\> umm interesting :)
[09:15] <gottto> I like lean - I just need to start whatever I want at the time
[09:15] <Ahmed\> Yes that's a good idea really
[09:48] <hoppyite> back
[09:50] <benny_kravitz> is there a german support?
[09:50] <gottto> !deutsch
[09:51] <benny_kravitz> thanks
[09:51] <gottto> :)
[10:07] <ubuntu> Hi
[10:07] <ubuntu> what is computer janitor and should i remove all those ?
[11:10] <madevelopers> hi
[11:11] <madevelopers> does anybody knows why I could not install pdt plugins on eclipse
[11:12] <madevelopers> i'm using ubuntu 9.10 karmic koala
[11:35] <ubuntu> hi
[11:43] <pausenclown> how can i a cat all files in a directory into a single file?
[11:45] <howlymowly> hi poeple...  I am just upgrading to kubuntu lucid lynx... and I am asking myself:  will kubuntu replace the default ubuntu splash screen?
[11:48] <gottto>  maybe  #ubuntu+1  will know howlymowly
[11:48] <howlymowly> kk
[12:01] <vbgunz> I have an .xsession file in my ~/ . I ln -s it to ~/.xinitrc ... inside my .xsession I have a few nvidia-settings that don't execute. I have chmod +x the .xsession file. what's happening?
[12:02] <gottto> xinitrc needs to be executable
[12:03] <vbgunz> .xinitrc is a symbolic link to xsession which I gave .xsession executable privilege
[12:04] <vbgunz> I've got commands that all end in ampersand in the file
[12:04] <gottto> so xinitrc is listed in ls -l as rwx?
[12:04] <vbgunz> -rwxr-xr-x
[12:05] <vbgunz> xinitrc is lrwxrwxrwx
[12:05] <vbgunz> the other was .xsession
[12:05] <gottto> k
[12:05] <vbgunz> let me try restarting x again, I hope these take effect. brb
[12:08] <vbgunz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/401127/ thats what I have in my .xsession file
[12:08] <vbgunz> but all my nvidia-settings are of different values when I -q them in the terminal
[12:13] <rafael_> só tem home nessa joça
[12:13] <rafael_> hauhaua
[12:14] <gottto> vbgunz: seen this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-114240.html
[12:19] <vbgunz> hey gotto I'll check that out
[12:21] <Lord-Rahl> anyone install the alpha? anyone know what happened to mozilla-mplayeer plugin I can find is'gecko-mediaplayer - Multimedia plug-in for Gecko browsers' and it stills gnome frontend . any thoughts?
[12:22] <asraniel> hi there. is there a particular reason why network manager does not give an error message when the wireless password is wrong?
[12:24] <Lord-Rahl> asraniel: I battle that myself
[12:25] <Lord-Rahl> asraniel: I have not upgrade my laptop to 10.04 so they may have fix it idont know
[12:33] <roman_> how are you
[12:34] <roman_> Nobody?
[12:34] <Lord-Rahl> roman: good you
[12:35] <Lord-Rahl> roman: shhh there sleeping... hehe
[12:40] <lalalol> whats a good program that is basically the same as paint on windows?
[12:42] <Lord-Rahl> lalalol: I use kolorpaint works well and has alot of extra
[12:43] <Lord-Rahl> lalalol: i find one step about mspaint but near the gimp
[12:43] <Lord-Rahl> above*
[12:43] <lalalol> awesome that you know that, i wonder how i should install it though, i cant find a ppa for stable, and i dont understand the download thing from their site, which version is recommended? :s
[12:44] <Lord-Rahl> lalalol: just open kpackagekit and type kolorpaint
[12:45] <Lord-Rahl> click it hight it and hit OK
[12:46] <lalalol> alright
[12:46] <lalalol> thx :)
[12:46] <lalalol> bbs
[12:50] <Lord-Rahl> lalalol: you find it
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:06] <vbgunz> hmm, it turns out, if I want settings I cannot configure from the nvidia-settings gui to stick I have to load nvidia-settings --load-config-only & ... anyhow, I thought my performance was good but I really feel it's better now. windows move around smoother. resizing isn't as smooth as I can wish but feels smoother than before
[13:20] <zus> hello
[13:21] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, which nvidia card ?
[13:21] <zus> in the settings under splash screens, i installed a couple but only one appeared in the list, where are the files go when you click install?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> zus, some splash scrns appear to install, but thy don't really work ..dunno why , but that's my experience too
[13:24] <zus> BluesKaj,  i know with 9.10 they disabled the loggin and splash but i was told  kde can do splash so maybe thats prolly why? - ill try once more then call it a bust on the splash.
[13:25] <zus> would have been nice though.
[13:27] <Roj> hi
[13:34] <BluesKaj> zus, some of the splash screens do work tho, just not all.
[13:35] <zus> BluesKaj,  yeah, for eye candy reasons im glad i switched...
[13:35] <zus> how do i stack windows for the flip switch to work?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> you mean desktops?
[13:37] <zus> aye,
[13:39] <zus> i seen on a youtube video someone switched windows and the window he was on turned over and behind it was the new one, like a piece of paper even...
[13:40] <BluesKaj> there's a panel widget for switching , it's called the pager
[13:42] <Maranatha> zus: go to system setting, desktop, general, and check enable desktop effects
[13:43] <lalalol> how on earth can i make the prntscrn-key open kolourpaint instead of ksnapshot?
[13:43] <Maranatha> zus: there is a dropdown menu for effect for window switching make sure it is on cover switch
[13:43] <zus> it is enabled, but its not really doing the animation i was hoping unless im in the wrong part
[13:44] <Maranatha> zus: put it on flip switch and press enable
[13:45] <Maranatha> zus: and use alt tab to use it. you must have multiple windows open
[13:45] <zus> done, im  going trhough the setting on flip switch
[13:46] <zus> lol multiple windows x chat amorok and settings window  im running outta room
[13:46] <Maranatha> lol
[13:46] <Maranatha> is it working the way you want it too now?
[13:48] <zus> not really but ill figure it out eventually. least im in the right place
[13:49] <zus> it opens a rectangle with all the windows and it tabs across it to desired window. i guess its a stacking  group windows thing?
[13:49] <zus> id find the video but gotbletu has tons on youtube...that'll take like a thousand hours lol
[13:50] <Maranatha> zus: if you put it on "flip switch" it will stack them all and bring the active window up front with all the others directly behind it, "cover flip" puts them in a ring and swaps that way.
[13:54] <lalalol> how on earth can i make the prntscrn-key open kolourpaint instead of ksnapshot?
[13:58] <SilverCode> lalalol: try System Settings->Input Actions->Preset Actions->PrintScreen [Action]
[13:59] <lalalol> OMFG
[13:59] <lalalol> tyvm SilverCode
[13:59] <SilverCode> np .. hope it actually works though :)
[14:00] <lalalol> only 1 problem with it
[14:01] <lalalol> it doesnt copy the screen
[14:01] <lalalol> so i need to make it copy the screen too
[14:02] <SilverCode> hmmm, having never used kolourpaint, I can't offer any advice
[14:03] <lalalol> np
[14:03] <inclement> Someone I know has just ' I accidentally C-M-Esc'd my desktop'
[14:03] <inclement> Is there a command to fix that?
[14:04] <lalalol> CMEsc?
[14:05] <inclement> As in, ctrl+alt+esc then I assume clicked on a panel
[14:05] <lalalol> :O
[14:05] <arch0njw> inclement: err.. dumb quetion... what does it do?
[14:06] <inclement> ctrl+alt+esc sets something so that your next click will kill whichever application you click on
[14:06] <tomiondrums> hi,
[14:06] <tomiondrums> i've got a nvidia quadro nvs 290 graphics adapter installed in my ubuntu karmic workstation and i can't get dual headed graphics working with it.
[14:06] <tomiondrums> when i try to configure it using the nvidia-settings tool i can't get a resolution beyond 640x480 on my second monitor (both monitors are NEC MultiSync EA221WM).
[14:06] <tomiondrums> i downloaded and installed the 195.36.15 driver for the card but it works as bad as the 185.18.36. configuring the card manually via the xorg.conf doesn't work at all. either xorg doesn't start up or i starts with the second monitor disabled. i've tried nearly everything possible and impossible but i don't come to grips with it...
[14:06] <tomiondrums> maybe the whole problem is related to an EDID-misbehaviour but i can't tell... anyway when i try to get-edid|parse-edid the monitor is not being detected correctly (it says ModelName "AXR:1600" instead of something with "NEC")
[14:06] <FloodBotK1> tomiondrums: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:07] <arch0njw> inclement: oooh.  doesn't do that for me.  Maybe I unbound that.  Try pressing ESC again?
[14:07] <inclement> arch0njw: It's too late now, he's clicked something and killed it :D
[14:07] <inclement> Never mind. Logging out and in again will work anyway :)
[14:07] <Lynoure> Hello, can someone explain to me how Desktop Activities work?
[14:08] <Lynoure> All I have achieved so far is losing all my widgets.
[14:08] <inclement> (Oh, it turns out plasma-desktop is the correct command )
[14:10] <zus> i have my gpg/pgp  folder saved on my thumbdrive from when i used gnome. can i paste it into the gpg/pgp folder in kubuntu? and will it still work?
[14:26] <zus> would running synaptic in kubuntu have any downsides?
[14:27] <zus> i couldnt find devede in kubuntu's packetmanager,...i know its in gnome though
[14:27] <arch0njw> zus:  gpg/pgp ... I would expect it to work the same.
[14:28] <arch0njw> zus: synaptic... I wouldn't expect so, but why do that?
[14:29] <arch0njw> zus:  and the package manager is called "KPackageKit"  I dislike the name immensely because it isn't really straightforward like ... oh ... "Package Manager"
[14:30] <zus> arch0njw,  well im familiar with it and i can scroll through a list of items versus typing  it in. god forbid i misspell DeVeDe  it didnt find it at first
[14:32] <zus> got to love youtube video tutorials, im enjoying gotbletu's vids haha
[14:37] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: you around?
[14:37] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: You asked me about my nvidia card earlier. sorry, I stepped away. I have a GTX 260
[14:38] <ewoerner> are there any packages for koffice 2.2b1?
[14:39] <vbgunz> tomiondrums: do you set up your card using the nvidia-settings gui?
[14:41] <tomiondrums> as i've already said i
[14:41] <tomiondrums> 've tried both - the nvidia-settings utility and the manual way via the xorg.conf-file
[14:42] <tomiondrums> both doesn't really work
[14:42] <vbgunz> tomiondrums:  do you when you use the gui, save the xorg.conf it creates?
[14:42] <tomiondrums> yes, of course
[14:42] <vbgunz> so you launch the gui as root and have twinview selected?
[14:43] <tomiondrums> exactly
[14:43] <vbgunz> tomiondrums: what is the highest resolution your monitors support?
[14:43] <dfaure> I booted a brand new Dell Latitude E4300 onto the Kubuntu 9.10 CD, and 1) down arrow didn't work in the menu, but up arrow did, and 2) choosing "Install kubuntu", it made some noise, but now nothing, just a black screen with a blinking cursor
[14:43] <vbgunz> I have a dual screen setup and get 1920x1080 on both monitors using a gtx260. would you like to look at my xorg.conf?
[14:44] <tomiondrums> the primary monitor (output 1) allows the maximum resolution 1680*1080 or something like that and the secondary can only be set to 640x480 (maximum)
[14:45] <vbgunz> tomiondrums: when you open your xorg.conf file, do you see the time the settings you made in the gui correspond to the time in xorg.conf?
[14:45] <tomiondrums> exactly
[14:46] <vbgunz> tomiondrums: I'll post my xorg, check it out, one sec
[14:46] <vbgunz> its really short but works perfect in twin view
[14:46] <vbgunz> one sec
[14:46] <vbgunz> tomiondrums: http://paste.ubuntu.com/401194/
[14:47] <vbgunz> check out the section "screen" specifically the metamodes option there
[14:47] <zus> how come amorok only displays the play button. before it had  back track stop play pause forward track....
[14:47] <vbgunz> change to your resolution and restart x
[14:49] <tomiondrums> but that's nearly exactly the same as i have in my xorg.conf, the only (and i suspect that for being the real problem) difference is that you are using a differenc graphics adapter
[14:49] <tomiondrums> but i'll give it a try
[14:49] <vbgunz> tomiondrums: wait
[14:49] <vbgunz> you gonna have to blank out the horizsync and vertrefresh lines
[14:50] <vbgunz> leave those on and you might not see anything at all when x tries to come back
[14:50] <rbwilkinson> hello
[14:50] <rbwilkinson> Hello room. is there a good linux channel for networking help.
[14:50] <rbwilkinson> ?
[14:51] <rbwilkinson> I am not able to upload through my ISP.
[14:56] <tomiondrums> didn't make any difference...
[14:58] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, tomiondrums , this driver install method works well , http://pastebin.com/NTpsWB4E
[14:59] <tomiondrums> that's more or less exactly what i did
[14:59] <dfaure> now the kunbutu install CD says "Authentication failure" / "init: tty1 main process (2319) terminated with status 1
[14:59] <BluesKaj> rbwilkinson, connecting thru a modem or router ?
[14:59] <dfaure> ...many times, and then "Starting init crypto disks"... and then nothing, seems it crashed
[15:00]  * dfaure has had better experiences with kubuntu installation in the past...
[15:01] <asraniel> anybody uses a macbook pro here? i have a few problems with the mouse and the keyboard layout
[15:01] <family> through a router
[15:01] <tomiondrums> don't get me wrong but i've set up graphics-adapters on debian ubuntu and gentoo about a hundred times, and this would also not be my first dual-head setup but i'm pretty sure this must a bug in the driver and i hoped that there's somebody who knows a workaround...
[15:01] <family> cable modem
[15:01] <family> used wire shark I get bad tcp errors
[15:01] <BluesKaj> tomiondrums, which nvidia card ?
[15:02] <tomiondrums> BluesKaj: quadro nvs 290
[15:02] <zus> how can i view .swf files?
[15:02] <family> i am rbwilkinson... cant get family  off
[15:02] <zus> in kubuntu 9.10
[15:02] <tomiondrums> BluesKaj: i've already tried the newest driver from the nvidia website
[15:04] <BluesKaj> tomiondrums, what about the nouveau experimental
[15:05] <tomiondrums> BluesKaj: what's that?
[15:05] <inclement> So, I have a friend whose only requirement of his system is that he be able to control the volume using his mouse without a screen. He used to place a volume control applet in the top right of his screen, but in KDE the volume control is in the task thing so he can't do that
[15:05] <inclement> Can anyone think of a different way to accomplish the same thing? I'm stuck :(
[15:06] <BluesKaj> tomiondrums, it should be available in the package manager
[15:07] <tomiondrums> ok
[15:08] <tomiondrums> i'll have to try that tomorrow but it sounds interesting...
[15:09] <gorgonzola> hello all! any idea why mysql server is uninstallable in amd64?
[15:09] <gorgonzola> under lucid, that is.
[15:09] <tomiondrums> BluesKaj: did you already manage to get dual-headed graphics running with that driver?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> tomiondrums, I haven't tried dual heads
[15:12] <Benkinooby> hi, maybe a wireless network specialist can help me.. sometimes my laptop disconnects from wireless lans (after being connected for some time) or firefox/networkconnection freezes i posted the log at http://pastebin.com/dY3qTAyv . i googled, but i didn't find any specific information :( a hint or advice would allready help me
[15:13] <AuleMoo> Can anyone help me find a way of controlling my volume with my mouse scroll wheel without screen or keyboard (for at night when I have my laptop closed) please? I used to use the volume control applet in gnome shoved into the top-right corner until some clever fool put it into the notification area only...
[15:14] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: I wasn't looking to install drivers. I guess you're probably responding to when I told you my card. I had an earlier issue of my nvidia-settings not sticking in my xinitrc. turned out I had to add the line of load-only along with the options not found in the gui
[15:14] <Benkinooby> AuleMoo: this is kde section, fro gnome go for the ubuntu irc
[15:14] <AuleMoo> i gave up on gnome
[15:15] <Benkinooby> AuleMoo: ah, ok :P sorry
[15:15] <AuleMoo> Is there a volume control applet in KDE that can be placed in an easy to find place? Or some sort of mouse gesture thing?
[15:15] <Benkinooby> AuleMoo: maybe you cehck the widgets of plasma..
[15:15] <vbgunz> AuleMoo: kmix?
[15:16] <AuleMoo> vbgunz: kmix is currently stuck in the notification area...
[15:16] <AuleMoo> if I can get it out of there I can probably solve this problem
[15:16] <vbgunz> notification area should be easy to find ;)
[15:16] <AuleMoo> vbgunz: not blind
[15:16] <vbgunz> AuleMoo: shortcut to it?
[15:16] <AuleMoo> it places icons in random orders
[15:16] <AuleMoo> vbgunz: how so?
[15:17] <vbgunz> try doing it through the menu first, then check global shortcut settings if that doesn't work
[15:19] <AuleMoo> vbgunz: I don't think I follow you here. I'm looking for a way to control my volume using my scrollwheel in a situation where I cannot see where my pointer is
[15:19] <AuleMoo> so need to have a sensitive area of the screen in somewhere like a corner
[15:20] <vbgunz> tomiondrums: ahh
[15:20] <vbgunz> tomiondrums: you can create global shortcuts to volume up, volume down, and mute
[15:21] <vbgunz> check your global shortcut settings for that, other than that, I am not aware of any plasmoids that do it
[15:21] <AuleMoo> I don't have any access to my keyboard either though
[15:21] <vbgunz> I would have never imagined that :(
[15:21] <Maranatha> where can I get a MD5summer for kubuntu
[15:25] <shadeslayer> Maranatha: use : md5sum /path/to/iso
[15:26] <zus> do i need to install kubuntu restricted extras?
[15:26] <Maranatha> thanks shadeslayer :)
[15:26] <zus> to view .swf files,  dragon play makes horible noised and mplayer wont play video
[15:27] <zus> with youtube videos
[15:29] <BluesKaj> zus, try VLC
[15:35] <zus> BluesKaj,  VLC worked thanks
[15:36] <zus> i disliked it in windows, dunno why, but i never used it there.
[15:37] <BluesKaj> zus, VLC doesn't have the nicest "look' but it works for most codecs
[15:37] <zus> still cant play .swf file
[15:39] <zus> it worked in ubuntu once. but dont remeber what i installed.
[15:40] <BluesKaj> zus, do you have the flashplugin-nonfree installed?
[15:41] <zus> don't know. after install most things jst worked unlike ubuntu where  i had to install ubuntu-restricted. which is why i  asked about the kubuntu-restricted extras.
[15:43] <BluesKaj> ok install kubuntu-restricted extras , forgotten if the flash plugin is included
[15:43] <BluesKaj> err kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:45] <zus> hmm thats prolly why i didnt type it right
[15:46] <BluesKaj> zus, also  flashplugin-nonfree
[15:46] <BluesKaj> and w32codecs
[15:46] <BluesKaj> or 64 depends on your platform
[15:48] <zus> how can i tell if im a 32 bit or 64 to know which linux to get 32/64
[15:50] <friday> what processor do you have?
[15:51] <arch0njw> zus: you could also find out in your BIOS
[15:51] <zus> friday let  me find out bb
[15:52] <BluesKaj> zus, lsb_release -a
[15:53] <arch0njw> BluesKaj: I believe he is trying to figure out his system architecture, not what he presently has installed.  Could have 32bit installed on 64bit.
[15:53] <BluesKaj> arch0njw, yeah , but then he should stick with 32bit
[15:53] <zus> oh now my terminal is stuck
[15:54] <arch0njw> BluesKaj: only if he doesn't want to do a full reinstall ;)
[15:55] <zus> on configureing sun java6-jre i hit ok aint doing nothing now.... no reinstall lol ill be learned for lucid though
[15:55] <BluesKaj> arch0njw, i ran 32 on this 64 bit cpu for a while until 64 apps became mature enough , but it's best to be consistent
[15:56] <BluesKaj> zus , it's waiting for your yes agreement
[15:56] <arch0njw> BluesKaj: hah... I just read back a bit.  I'm sounding really silly now.  :)  Yes, NEED to be consistent.  :D
[15:57] <zus> it had my agreement nothing happened i just exit. the out put was "No LSB modules are available
[15:59] <BluesKaj> zus, that was for the lsb_release -a command , not the java agreement
[15:59] <zus> yeah
[16:00] <BluesKaj> ok, now try this , sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:02] <zus> seems as if the closed terminal i still holding the resources...cuz its asking if another process is open
[16:03] <BluesKaj> zus , another terminal open?
[16:03] <zus> brb
[16:09] <zus> geesh i did something wrong,...one sec
[16:10] <zus> ok, what about the codecs
[16:10] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[16:12]  * dfaure gives up on trying to install kubuntu on the dell latitude 4300, the CD just spins forever and nothing shows up :(
[16:14] <zus> grrr ok i know what i did wrong i had to fix it.i killed the kubuntu-restricted-extras and it held everything yp
[16:15] <BluesKaj> zus, always let commands finish, never kill the output unless absolutely necessary
[16:17] <zus> im caught up extras finished, codecs and flash non free, update and upgraded also
[16:22] <zus> i know in ubuntu i wastched my file  and then after a reinstall i tried to watch it again i had a problem with the gstreamer...
[16:25] <zus> oh well its not a big deal now, ill wait till i do need it. i got to go pick up my niece from school thanks all for the help be back in 15 min
[16:33] <drivenchild> hi
[16:33] <drivenchild> does anybody know how can I hide the menu bar in firefox?
[16:33] <drivenchild> Iḿ using firefox 3.5.6 on kubunto 9.10
[16:42] <Ahmed\> hi
[16:42] <scady> salut
[16:43] <Ahmed\> I have just upgrade from KDE 4.3 TO KDE 4.4 and what i have noticed is , My computer is running Extreamly show even tho i turned off the 3D Desktop settngs etc but yet it is, Any suggestion :) PLease
[16:44] <Ahmed\> I mean only the graphic is slow
[16:54] <hoppyite> drivenchild: There's an Add-on 'Hide menubar'
[16:58] <spirov92> anyone feeling in the mood to help me debug ATI drivers? I use the radeon driver on a RV250
[17:39] <Ahmed\> Hi
[17:40] <Ahmed\> How do i disable my couser to not to go on desktop 2 by toucking the top ot the screen or taskbar ? Its annoying
[17:43] <zus> how can i show hidden files?
[17:43] <Ahmed\> zus: Open dolphin
[17:43] <James147> zus: Alt+. in dolphin
[17:43] <Ahmed\> Zus: click on View and there that is
[17:44] <James147> zus: ls -a   on command line
[17:44] <zus> shiny, thanks
[17:45] <Ahmed\> James, How do i disable the couser when it switch the desktop when i go to the top of the screen or on taskbar ? its annoying really !
[17:45] <dfaure> couser?
[17:46] <Ahmed\> Yeah
[17:46] <dfaure> mouse cursor?
[17:46] <Ahmed\> Mouser ? arrow
[17:46] <Ahmed\> Yeah
[17:46] <Ahmed\> Its like playing snake game on Nokia phones when the snake goes to the right and comes from left HUH
[17:46] <James147> Ahmed\: System settings -> Desktop -> Screen edge -> "Switch desktop on edge"
[17:47] <zus> im trying to put in my gnupg from when i made my key in gnome into kubuntu. i have my file on mmy desktop right now.
[17:48] <Ahmed\> James, THANK YOU :$
[17:48] <Ahmed\> I remember i did changed something there so :)
[17:48] <James147> zus: have you tryed kgpg?
[17:49] <zus> James147,  i havent.  \
[17:49] <Ahmed\> James, Can you suggest me the best setting for the graphic (its a shared memory so) to work finely but not to use much graphicor memory but stable
[17:50] <Ahmed\> From KDE desktop effects i mean
[17:51] <zus> i already have a pgp key, but this kubuntu is a fresh install so do i have to install  a program first to see my key?
[17:52] <James147> Ahmed\: Don't know sorry :p the default options should be fine if you don't know what they do. If your having problems with them try disabling some effects
[17:52] <Ahmed\> umm Good idea
[17:52] <James147> zus: kgpg is installed by default on kubuntu
[17:53] <zus> james so it should read my gpg key that i already have had?
[17:53] <James147> zus: it has an option to import a key so I would think so
[17:53] <James147> zus:  try it and see I dont really know that much about gpg
[17:53] <Ahmed\> Whats OpenGL Mode with (Shared Memory) ?
[17:55] <zus> james thanks
[17:56] <Ahmed\> Hello ? :$
[17:58] <Ahmed\> Whats OpenGL Mode with (Shared Memory) ? ??
[17:59] <James147> Ahmed\: Sorry don't know, and it appears that no one else thats listening dose either. I suggest you look it up online or ask again in a bit to see if anyone that has joined knows
[18:00] <Ahmed\> Yes..
[18:00] <Ahmed\> RIght
[18:01] <chuckf> zus: kgpg would be the best graphical utility to use. If you want to do the command line I believe it would be gpg --import /path/to/yourkey
[18:02] <chuckf> zus: and don't forget that you need your private key from the old system for it to work properly
[18:03] <Ahmed\> PRIVATE KEY ?
[18:03] <FremenBlue> hey
[18:03] <FremenBlue> anyone want to take a looksie at my xsession log?
[18:03] <FremenBlue> =D
[18:03] <chuckf> Ahmed\: private key in regards to gpg
[18:03] <chuckf> Ahmed\: not the system as a whole
[18:03] <James147> FremenBlue: You might want to discribe the problem your having first :)
[18:04] <Ahmed\> gpg --import /path/to/yourkey isn;t working, is it the complete command ?
[18:04] <FremenBlue> alright, i already did @ ubuntuforums.org in dekstop enviro
[18:04] <FremenBlue> ill give u link
[18:04] <Ahmed\> Okay
[18:04] <zus> chuckf,  i copied the entire .gnupg folder from my old gnome install. this is a fresh install of kubuntu (9.10) i cant seem to find the kgpg,.... and when ever i open the menu i keep somehow dragin the help icon  how can i stop that?
[18:04] <FremenBlue> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1438799
[18:05] <FremenBlue> i posted descrip and then xsession log
[18:05] <chuckf> I don't use kgpg that often, only for key management on occasion.
[18:05] <Ahmed\> Lemme see
[18:05] <chuckf> Ahmed\: if you're not working with importing a gpg key, ignore me for now
[18:06] <Ahmed\> Allright
[18:07] <zus> Ahmed\,  im working on getting my old key in kubuntu with out haveint to make a new one and cancel my present one
[18:07] <chuckf> zus you should (unless you have changed something) if you just copy the contents of the old .gnupg to the new .gnupg directory and it will just recognize your key
[18:08] <zus> i tried that once it didnt work on the engrypted email i got ,,,, i have reinstalled since then though
[18:08] <Ahmed\> Actually i am new here and i don't really have no idea or i wish i could help :)
[18:08] <zus> ahmed im new as well hehe only been a linux user  since  9.10 release
[18:09] <chuckf> and that encrypted email was encrytped to you?
[18:09] <FremenBlue> my first linux was damn small linux like a year and a half ago
[18:09] <Ahmed\> umm i'm about a week :)
[18:09] <zus> chuckf,  yeah it was from when i signed the UCoC
[18:10] <zus> when i was in my email, i would come across it and it always asked for a password, wich is how i knew  it worked and  email isnt deleted
[18:10] <Ahmed\> Anyone knows hot to disable the startup items on kubuntu (i do know about Gnome)or are they works on both ? KDE and Gone by disabing from Gnome ?
[18:10] <zus> Ahmed\,  welcome to Linux these guys helped me immeasurably
[18:11] <Ahmed\> ummmm
[18:11] <Ahmed\> Thanks :$
[18:11] <Ahmed\> Anyones email hacked ? i can try :P
[18:11] <Ahmed\> to recover it i guess
[18:11] <dfaure> startup items can be in your Autostart folder, like ~/.kde/Autostart, or global (desktop files in /usr/share/autostart or something like that)
[18:11] <dfaure> but there's a systemsettings module for the latter
[18:11] <FremenBlue> who helped you?
[18:12] <FremenBlue> can they help me?
[18:12] <Ahmed\> Well just a minute
[18:12] <Ahmed\> BRB
[18:12] <zus> me various random people from the communtiy forums and channels. best community i've come across
[18:13] <FremenBlue> are there more channels
[18:13] <FremenBlue> lol
[18:13] <FremenBlue> i need tech support channel
[18:13] <Ahmed\> Back
[18:13] <Ahmed\> Yes it did helped
[18:13] <zus> i guess this is a support chan, there is  #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:13] <James147> FremenBlue: This is the tech-support for kubuntu :)
[18:13] <Ahmed\> ZUS: YOu are great !
[18:14] <James147> FremenBlue: Its run by volenters so you will jsut have to keep asking untill someone comes online that knows the answer to your problem i am afraid
[18:14] <zus> Ahmed\,  thank you, im great because the communtiy behind me. to be honest.
[18:14] <chuckf> zus if you save the text of that email to a file and from the command line run gpg filename.txt does it prompt you to enter your passphrase?
[18:14] <Ahmed\> Well nice to know :)
[18:14] <Ahmed\> BRB
[18:14] <FremenBlue> i need a linux guru
[18:15] <FremenBlue> =D
[18:15] <zus> chuck one sec
[18:15] <chuckf> zus and when I say text I mean the ascii armored message
[18:16] <FremenBlue> kdm freezes at hard disk icon, xsession log posted here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1438799
[18:16] <zus> chuckf,  do i open kate to save the file?
[18:16] <dfaure> hmm I thought the kubuntu installer was able to resize partitions?
[18:16] <James147> FremenBlue: Have you tryed creating a new user and testing with that?
[18:16] <FremenBlue> nope
[18:17] <chuckf> zus that would be one way to do it. Copy it from the email client, paste into Kate, then save it
[18:17] <FremenBlue> next time it locks up though, ill make a new user @ the console and try it
[18:18] <FremenBlue> anyway its up and running so im good till tomorrow when i have to start the laptop again =D
[18:18] <FremenBlue> lol
[18:18] <James147> dfaure: might depend on what format the partition is, have had problems resizing ntfs in the past
[18:18] <zus> chuckf,  looking for the email now, lol the giveaway was the old passphrase box that pooped up  hehe
[18:19] <dfaure> James147: I have resized ntfs partitions in the past iirc, but the real question was, shouldn't this be in the installer GUI?
[18:20] <chuckf> okay
[18:20] <James147> dfaure: Thinking about it... it has an option to auto resize and install size be side. But for the manual partitionion I am not sure it dose
[18:21] <dfaure> hmm I only see two radiobuttons, Erase whole disk and manual partitioning.
[18:21] <James147> dfaure: other options appear depening on how your disk is already partitioned or other factors
[18:21] <dfaure> I see.
[18:22] <James147> dfaure: I think if you have just one partition you get an option to install side by side
[18:22] <zus> chuckf, lol found it,....geesh that was a lot of mail.
[18:22] <dfaure> well laptops with pre-installed windows typically have more than one
[18:22] <James147> dfaure: Might be more complex then that and ignore smaller partitions, but I really know know the details
[18:24] <nemo> Hey guys, have you ever encountered this before?
[18:24] <nemo> http://m8y.org/images/temp.png
[18:25] <zus> chuckf,  alright i got the file copied on kate, whats was the next step?
[18:25] <nemo> dude is running into trouble installing kubuntu (he's in ##html-fr) and I don't have much familiarity w/ it
[18:25] <nemo> oops
[18:25] <nemo> sorry
[18:25] <dfaure> ok I'll just overwrite the ntfs partition and reinstall windows later. Next question: ext4 or ext3?
[18:25] <nemo> let me fix that link
[18:25] <nemo> http://picpaste.com/pics/capture_d___cran1.1269540830.png
[18:25] <nemo> just use that one :)
[18:25] <nemo> I was relaying it due to image blocking over here
[18:26] <chuckf> zus: save it to a file. Open a terminal window and cd to the directory with the file in it. Then run 'gpg filename.txt' without the quotes
[18:26] <zus> how do i do cd? change directory i assume ?
[18:27] <James147> zus: "cd path"
[18:27] <James147> zus: from terminal
[18:27] <zus> its on my desktop so cd /home/desktop?
[18:27] <chuckf> zus: yes, chagne directory
[18:27] <nemo> anyone? (last image)
[18:28] <chuckf> from where you open the terminal cd Desktop should do it
[18:28] <James147> zus: cd /home/USER/desktop  or just "cd ~/desktop"
[18:28] <franck606> hi all
[18:28] <chuckf> capial D I believe
[18:28] <zus> thanks
[18:28] <James147> yeah, remember itss case sensitive
[18:28] <franck606> thanks for help me
[18:29] <franck606> http://picpaste.com/capture_d___cran1.png
[18:29] <franck606> why?
[18:30] <zus> ok im in ~/desktop$
[18:30] <James147> franck606: Hmm not sure, have you tryed running a disk check on the cd (its one of the options when you boot from it) to see if its a bad cd
[18:30] <chuckf> now type gpg filename
[18:31] <franck606> ok i check a cd
[18:32] <franck606> sorry for my english language
[18:32] <zus> gpg: can't open 'encrypted' which is what i named it
[18:34] <chuckf> zus: do you see the encrypted file listed if you do an ls
[18:34] <zus> whats the command for ls again ?
[18:35] <dfaure> ls :)
[18:35] <James147> zus: ls
[18:35] <zus> im going to write all these commands down
[18:35] <zus> heh thanks
[18:36] <James147> zus: http://mally.stanford.edu/~sr/computing/basic-unix.html <-- Lists the basic commands and what they do
[18:36] <Tm_T> !bash
[18:36] <franck606> check finished: no errors found, press any key ...
[18:37] <zus> chuckf,  yes i do see it
[18:38] <franck606> in option boot, i chose no echec mode display
[18:39] <chuckf> zus: and when you type in gpg encrypted the error message is that gpg cannot open the file? If so, close kate
[18:39] <chuckf> then try again
[18:41] <chuckf> zus: what I expect to happen is you see either a prompt for a passphrase or a message that reads decryption failed: secret key not available
[18:41] <zus> chuckf,  or this? The program 'pgp' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[18:41] <zus> sudo apt-get install pgpgpg
[18:41] <zus> pgp: command not found
[18:42] <chuckf> you should only need gpg
[18:43] <chuckf> If I typed pgp somewhere replace that with gpg
[18:43]  * genii thinks about Pretty Good Privacy vs GNU Privacy Guard
[18:44] <zus> now it says canto open
[18:44] <chuckf> genii: PGP has its place in the corporate world but that's about it as far as I am concerned (in it's current state)
[18:45] <franck606> it's ok in no echec mode
[18:45] <chuckf> zus if you type 'file encrypted' without the quotes what is the output?
[18:47] <zus> i think im doin this wrong im in terminal at ~/desktop$ i did gpg encrypted.txt
[18:50] <zus> brb
[18:51] <kurumin> .
[18:52] <franck606> thanks all
[18:53] <franck606> bye
[18:54] <tomek_> hi!
[19:16] <zus> how do i back up a folder?
[19:16] <areichman> zus: where are you backing it up to?
[19:18] <zus> areichman,  hmm desktop for simplicity. i tried looking it up but all i got was back in up whole  /home
[19:18] <areichman> and what are you trying to back up?
[19:21] <zus> my .gpg folder
[19:22] <areichman> and when you say backup do you just want a copy of that folder on your desktop? Do you want it compressed or to automatically create a new, more current copy every so often?
[19:22] <areichman> to just back it up, all you have to do is use dolphin to show hidden folders, copy the .gpg folder and then paste it on the desktop
[19:22] <areichman> there are ways to do all of the other things, though, if you'd like
[19:23] <zus> if copy and paste works i  can do that for now. but   what outputs a .bak file?
[19:24] <zus> and more importantly what program opens and uses them, i couldnt get to my old .bak of my grub before
[19:24] <M0n3ySh0t> hi im trying to setup a samba share on a kubuntu server and when i try to connect to it from a windows 7 box it asks for authentication, how do i disable this when mapping a drive?
[19:24] <areichman> lots of things, .bak just stands for backup and it gets appended to the end of a file to show it's the backup copy. The file is exactly the same
[19:25] <areichman> all you should have to do is edit the filename and remove the .bak and it should work
[19:25] <zus> areichman,  shiny, this should at least get me moving again for the day...
[19:25] <areichman> M0n3ySh0t: I think there's something about guest access in samba? Maybe look around for that?
[19:26] <areichman> zus: glad to help :-)
[19:26] <James147> M0n3ySh0t: Have you set up the shares to allow guests?
[19:26] <M0n3ySh0t> is there a setting for that in smb.conf?
[19:26] <M0n3ySh0t> something i should add?
[19:28] <James147> M0n3ySh0t: add "guest ok = yes" (no quotes) to each share you want to allow guests in smb.conf
[19:28] <M0n3ySh0t> thanks
[19:29] <James147> M0n3ySh0t: other useful ones might be "force user = USER" and "force group = GROUP" to force created files to be owned by the spified group/user
[19:29] <James147> M0n3ySh0t: Sorry ^^ to force guest to look like USER and GROUP
[19:29] <slow-motion> bye
[19:35] <zus> James147, where would kgpg be?
[19:36] <James147> zus: Menu -> Utilities -> KGpg    (or just alt+f2 and type "kgpg")
[19:38] <zus> hmm, lol could hlf my problem be i dont have it installed?
[19:40] <James147> zus: could be, try installing it and see what happens :) thought it was installed by default though... what version of kubuntu are you useing?
[19:41] <zus> 9/10 kde4.4
[19:41] <zus> James147, ^
[19:41] <James147> zus: hmm, same here and I doubt I installed it myself :S O well, try installing it anyway
[19:45] <zus> all right brb
[19:47] <Maranatha> pastebin
[19:47] <Maranatha> !pastebin
[20:01] <zus> so i did sudo apt-get install kgpg it installed but when i click it nothing happened, the lock icon appeared and after a sec, it disapears
[20:03] <James147> zus: it dosent open a window, check your systray it should be there
[20:04] <zus> the tray has a spot for it but after a sec it goes away
[20:05] <James147> zus: run it from terminal, that should allow you to see whats going on
[20:08] <zus> meh kwin crash
[20:09] <Ahmed\> Hi
[20:09] <Ahmed\> How do i trace the host IP by terminal/BASH
[20:09] <Ahmed\> ?
[20:12] <jmichaelx> trace host IP? what exactly are you trying to trace?
[20:13] <Ahmed\> Yes
[20:13] <jmichaelx> Ahmed\: 'ifconfig' will give you the IP of the system you are using
[20:13] <Ahmed\> Any websites IP
[20:13] <Ahmed\> ifconfig and ? host name /
[20:13] <Ahmed\> ??
[20:13] <jmichaelx> Ahmed\: for that, you could use something like 'dig www.google.com'
[20:14] <Ahmed\> Works fine thanks
[20:14] <jmichaelx> very welcome
[20:14] <Ahmed\> but what is that ifconfig ? for
[20:15] <jmichaelx> ifconfig just shows the network info for the machine you are using
[20:15] <Ahmed\> i can see
[20:15] <zus> i uninstalled and reinstalled same thing
[20:15] <Ahmed\> I am new here as you can see :) so is t true
[20:16] <Ahmed\> That Linux is the best thing to start Hacking?
[20:16] <jmichaelx> Ahmed\: i was new, too, a few years ago.... and still feel pretty new
[20:16] <Ahmed\> ZUS you are still here @_@ HUH
[20:16] <Ahmed\> ummm interneting
[20:16] <Ahmed\> interesting
[20:16] <Ahmed\> So can i say that i gotta geek ?
[20:16] <Ahmed\> :$
[20:16] <jmichaelx> interneting could be a good new word
[20:16] <Ahmed\> hahaha
[20:16] <zus> whats frustrating is the stupid menu when i open aplications and move up the stupid help  sticks to the cursor as if i was moving the launcher
[20:16] <Ahmed\> It reminds me of texing HUH
[20:17] <jmichaelx> yeah, using an unix variant ups your geek-quotient
[20:17] <jmichaelx> any*
[20:17] <Ahmed\> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ZUS thats so stupid man ,
[20:17] <zus> Ahmed\,  im always here heheh. i left for a bit though
[20:17] <Ahmed\> umm i can see
[20:17] <zus> brb
[20:17] <Ahmed\> I mean Thank GOODNESS i solve that issue i had !
[20:17] <Ahmed\> I mean every minute somethign comes up !
[20:17] <Ahmed\> Okay ZUS
[20:18] <Ahmed\> JM
[20:18] <Ahmed\> You there ?
[20:18] <jmichaelx> fixing problems is the very best way to learn
[20:18] <Ahmed\> Yes that's what i gotta agree with :)
[20:18] <jmichaelx> still here
[20:18] <Ahmed\> Are you a hacker ?
[20:18] <jmichaelx> umm, i am a hacker in the sense that i have been learning to code.
[20:18] <Ahmed\> Someone here few days ago was saying that Linux is made by Hackers ? true ?
[20:18] <Ahmed\> Oh umm
[20:19] <jmichaelx> but not a hacker in the sense of breaking into things i shouldn't
[20:19] <Ahmed\> Oh
[20:19] <Ahmed\> SO you do have skills to get into any host servers ?
[20:19] <Ahmed\> :P
[20:19] <jmichaelx> to many coders, and to free software folks in particular, a 'hacker' is just a 'programmer'
[20:20] <Ahmed\> umm, Coders ?
[20:20] <jmichaelx> programmer=coder
[20:20] <Ahmed\> oh
[20:20] <Ahmed\> Well, Can you hack a email then :P
[20:20] <Ahmed\> Come on off topic lets talk there if you are free :)
[20:21] <jmichaelx> a person might have an idea how one might hack into certain email accounts, that does not mean that person would do that, though
[20:21] <Ahmed\> You not ON its a typo
[20:21] <Ahmed\> umm
[20:21] <Ahmed\> Well i can actually ...
[20:22] <Ahmed\> Been a windows user from last 4 years but doesnt feel so secure over there
[20:22] <jmichaelx> i think the OT hammer could soon clobber us
[20:22] <Ahmed\> haha whats that :)
[20:22] <jmichaelx> OT=off topic
[20:22] <Ahmed\> and clobber ? means ?
[20:22] <jmichaelx> means being reprimanded
[20:23] <Ahmed\> umm
[20:23] <Ahmed\> Okay well, I am here to learn some of the stuff ONLY for educational purpose :)
[20:23] <Ahmed\> Wanna know about network a bit WELL, and so on :)
[20:24] <jmichaelx> Ahmed\: you might consider visiting http://www.backtrack-linux.org/
[20:24] <Ahmed\> WHat's that ?
[20:25] <Ahmed\> A start i can say ? :)
[20:26] <jmichaelx> there are tutorials there, and the backtrack liveCD/USB/etc is a very useful tool
[20:26] <Ahmed\> umm
[20:26] <Ahmed\> i have saved as bookmark
[20:26] <zus> now my try is black?  isnt milky like before
[20:26] <Ahmed\> i have a little problem with KDE 4.4
[20:26] <Ahmed\> Welcome back Zus
[20:26] <zus> Ahmed\,  t/y
[20:26] <bbeck> I was wondering if anyone else was having icons appear in drop down boxes e.g. font selector in kmail and krunner?  The icon looks like the kmix icon.
[20:28] <Ahmed\> Well i was on KDE 4.3 and was working so smoothly but today after installing KDE 4.4 upgrading its slow... I have tried turning off the graphic but doesnt seem that it helps :)
[20:29] <jaafar> anyone used kppp recently?  I find it's not working on 10.04 (hangs during Create New Account)
[20:29] <zus> i cant wait fir lucid....
[20:29] <buckfast_> How do I get the latest firefox in kubuntu?
[20:29] <Ahmed\> haha well i also !
[20:29] <Ahmed\> on that latest 3.6 i guess Java doesnt work
[20:29] <Ahmed\> SO better stick to 3.5 i would say
[20:29] <Ahmed\> :)
[20:30]  * zus has a once and for all fix...A Hammer!
[20:30] <Ahmed\> MJ and Zus, You guys are Linux Addicted :P
[20:30] <zus> i admit i am very happy with linux problems and all
[20:31] <Ahmed\> Oh !
[20:31] <jmichaelx> 4.4 should work fine in most cases. you should first backup and delete your .kde file
[20:31] <zus> Ahmed\,  i have the chance and choice to fix any problem
[20:31] <BluesKaj> zus, for what it's worth, i just upgraded this laptop to lucid and it's very stable
[20:32] <Ahmed\> Oh so what do i do with this KDE 4.4 really slow i mean wasn't slow on previous one
[20:32] <zus> James147,  ok i got the key management working but some how my tray looks black like the dark theme...
[20:32] <Ahmed\> Can i switch to Lucid when its gonna release or is it released ?
[20:33] <jmichaelx> Ahmed\: i have not had that experience, but i have heard reports of KDE being generally faster in Lucid than in Karmic
[20:33] <zus> BluesKaj,  makes me happy to hear, id hate to think less than a few weeks and its still comepletely broken,  can a live cd be made to dual boot? id hate to ruin  this install  lol
[20:33] <Ahmed\> umm thats good i guess, I'm gonna switch it for sure
[20:33] <Ahmed\> Lucid looks better then this Kaola bear :P
[20:34] <BluesKaj> Ahmed\, it's in development but you can still upgrade if you wish
[20:34] <M0n3ySh0t> im having trouble mapping a samba share on kubuntu to a windows drive, i get an error that the server is found but cant locate the folder, is there a special way to do this?
[20:34] <Ahmed\> Thats good
[20:34] <zus> brb
[20:34] <Ahmed\> Windows Vs Linux, Who's better in your opinion ? i'm asking you all and if so, Why :)
[20:34] <Ahmed\> OKay Zus
[20:34] <Tscheesy_> Ahmed\: Lucid is still Beta - you probably only have to clean out your Plasma-Configs
[20:35] <Tscheesy_> Ahmed\: this ist !offtopic
[20:35] <Tm_T> !better | Ahmed\
[20:35] <Ahmed\> Oh ! okay
[20:35] <Ahmed\> Okay :$
[20:35] <jmichaelx> Ahmed\ gets to meet the OT hammer and the 'better' hammer at the same time
[20:36] <Ahmed\> What setting should i do on Plasma
[20:36] <M0n3ySh0t> what is the unc for mapping a samba share on a kubuntu server to a windows drive?
[20:36] <Ahmed\> Now whats that hammer :$
[20:36] <zus> Ahmed\,  you dont want the hammer hehe
[20:37] <Ahmed\> umm, I only know Triple H's Hammer :$
[20:37] <Tscheesy_> Ahmed\: may you just delete ~/.kde/share/config/plasm*
[20:37] <Ahmed\> Okay then ?
[20:37] <M0n3ySh0t> yes i kno im a windows admin on a linux chat, im just trying to setup a simple file share from a virtual box running kubuntu and samba
[20:37] <jmichaelx> the true hammer is met when one chooses to stay OT, even after reprmands
[20:37] <Tscheesy_> Ahmed\:  they will be rebuild on next Login
[20:37] <jmichaelx> reprimands*
[20:38] <zus> James147,  are you free once again?
[20:38] <Ahmed\> ~/.kde/share/config/plasm* ? where to i put this on dolphin ba r?
[20:38] <buckfast_> How do I get the latest firefox in kubuntu?
[20:39] <Tscheesy_> in the konsole.. rm it (but you really should read something about your OS first)
[20:39] <jmichaelx> you should backup your .kde first
[20:40] <Tscheesy_> Backups are always right ;)
[20:40] <zus> buckfast_,  try this....http://linuxhub.net/2010/02/how-to-install-firefox-3-6-stable-release-on-ubuntu-9-10-using-ppa/
[20:40] <Ahmed\> ZUS , this says no files ~/.kde/share/config/plasm*
[20:40] <Ahmed\> how do i delete then
[20:41] <zus> ahmed  not rightly certain
[20:41] <Tscheesy_> Ahmed\: use Bash-Completion for example.. with TAB and read some Basics (rm is for remove)
[20:42] <buckfast_> zus: would ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa also be okay?
[20:42] <Ahmed\> Okay well sorry to say but i didn't get it :)
[20:42] <zus> i finally got kgpg to run,... how can i import the whole old folder with my key in it?
[20:42] <Tscheesy_> Ahmed\: ALT+F2 "konsole" → rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasm*
[20:43] <Ahmed\> Okay
[20:43] <Ahmed\> rm: cannot remove `/home/ubuntu/.kde/share/config/plasm*': No such file or directory
[20:43] <Ahmed\> ubuntu@Expert:~$
[20:43] <zus> buckfast_,  im not sure, only reason why i am not  using fire fox 3.6 is  cuz some one told me it wasnt stabel ,..
[20:43] <Tscheesy_> Ahmed\:  but this is really basics - you shouldnt upgrade to a Beta or alike without these
[20:44] <Ahmed\> um
[20:44] <zus> buckfast_,  yet the link i gave you said it is with the ppa
[20:44] <M0n3ySh0t> anyone on help with mapping a samba share from a kunbuntu box?
[20:44] <Tscheesy_> Ahmed\: again - use Bash-Completion
[20:44] <Tscheesy_> instead of *
[20:45] <buckfast_> zus: okay, thanks
[20:46] <Ahmed\> it says no files to remove
[20:46] <zus> buckfast_,  i personally save everything and try anything....though that has is draw backs as you can read my frustrations lol with this kpgp. (and end user error)
[20:47] <Tscheesy_> Ahmed\: then you may already killed them? search the path by top with TAB for example
[20:48] <Ahmed\> umm i didn't done anything anyways i will see that later :) but thanks
[20:48] <Tscheesy_> ^^ np
[20:48] <Ahmed\> >_< when will i learn this Linux
[20:49] <zus> Ahmed\,  in time and with use
[20:49] <Tscheesy_> there are many helpfull wiki's
[20:49] <Ahmed\> Zus you are right...
[20:49] <Ahmed\> I was so good at Windows really, what have i get by switching ?
[20:49] <Tscheesy_> freedom?
[20:49] <zus> how long has karmic been out about 4 5 months roughly
[20:50] <Ahmed\> Freedom ? that wasnt a prison !
[20:50] <zus> Tscheesy_,  i agree....
[20:50] <Ahmed\> huh
[20:50]  * Tscheesy_ would be getting offtopic now..
[20:50] <zus> i was great in windows, but i am happy in linux problems and all
[20:50] <Ahmed\> haha Zus huh
[20:51] <untiled> hi all, i have to install "sun-java6-jdk" package but when I try with KPackageKit it return with "Dependencies of the following packages could not be satisfied: sun-java6-jdk". It doesnt tell me wich are these dependencies: can someone help me?
[20:51] <zus> brb i hope a reboot fixes my tray..
[20:51] <Ahmed\> I mean Trojan works in there keyloggers and many other things and was even tho easy !
[20:51] <KjetilK> Ahmed\, I found that on Windows, I felt limited by how good the MS folks are, on Linux, I am only limited by my own skills
[20:52] <Ahmed\> Yes KJ  agree with that
[20:52] <Ahmed\> i guess thats the so called freedom ?
[20:52] <KjetilK> yup
[20:52] <Ahmed\> Great then
[20:52] <KjetilK> so, it is kinda tough at times, but at least, you can get where you want
[20:52] <KjetilK> with enough dedication
[20:52] <Ahmed\> Yes for a new user yeah
[20:53] <Ahmed\> I installed wobi and crashed a dozen times after updates :)
[20:53] <KjetilK> heh
[20:53] <Ahmed\> So yes i'm not one of them whos called Losers :)
[20:53] <Tscheesy_> untiled: install in Konsole and you get more feedback: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[20:54] <KjetilK> I remember installing a scanner on a windows box back in the day, and the box never stood on its feet again
[20:54] <KjetilK> it had to be reinstalled...
[20:54] <Ahmed\> hhhhhhh
[20:54] <KjetilK> and there wasn't even tools to debug the thing...
[20:54] <Ahmed\> well how about an error report that never reported back :)
[20:55] <theshow4life> chouls someone help me out please?
[20:55] <theshow4life> could*
[20:55] <genii> Please keep in mind topics not related to Kubuntu support issues can be discussed in the #kubuntu-offtopic channel
[20:55] <KjetilK> anyway, I've gotten pretty fanatical about being able to understand everything. If I wasn't, you'd probably get the same power but also more lockin and less understanding on an OSX box...
[20:55] <KjetilK> ok, sorry
[20:55] <Tscheesy_> !Help  | theshow4life
[20:55] <KjetilK> here comes my problem :)
[20:56] <Ahmed\> umm
[20:56] <theshow4life> !Help
[20:56] <KjetilK> I'm trying to connect my laptop running kubuntu 9.10 to the Internet through my HTC Hero, currently using USB cable, but I've also tried Bluetooth
[20:56] <Tscheesy_> !Help  | theshow4life
[20:56] <theshow4life> !Help
[20:56] <theshow4life> ok
[20:56] <genii> theshow4life: eg: Describe your problem
[20:56] <Ahmed\> Okay ubottu
[20:57] <KjetilK> I'm not seeing the wizard, and in Knetworkmanager, the mobile broadband tab is disabled (i.e. grey)
[20:57] <zus> alright,  i rebooted 3 times, my tray look black like the oxygen where it was default like kde4.4 milky looking
[20:57] <theshow4life> I just installed 9.10 and i wanted to enable the effects and it started to download the right drivers and when i was done it restater and all i get is a black screen. i got nvidia 8800 gts in SLI thanks
[20:58] <untiled> Tscheesy_ there's a way to have the outut in english so i can post you the exact error?
[20:58] <Tscheesy_> KIAaze: KDE4.4+ supports MobileBroadband again.. when the device is recognised the Tab will be availale
[20:59] <KIAaze> ??
[20:59] <M0n3ySh0t> will someone help me figure out this samba share, i am trying to take a samba share from kubuntu box and map it to a drive on a windows box
[20:59] <Tscheesy_> untiled: guess its depending your localisation ?
[20:59] <Tscheesy_> KIAaze sry
[20:59] <Tscheesy_> KjetilK: KDE4.4+ supports MobileBroadband again.. when the device is recognised the Tab will be availale
[20:59] <James147> M0n3ySh0t: What problems are you having with it?
[20:59] <KIAaze> it's allright. :)
[20:59] <untiled> Tscheesy_ i have it localized in italian and i think you don't understand it
[21:00] <Ahmed\> see you guys
[21:00] <Ahmed\> gtg
[21:00] <arch0njw> untiled: that's what translate.google.com is for :)
[21:00] <Ahmed\> Bye :)
[21:00] <Ahmed\> thanks
[21:00] <FloodBotK1> Ahmed\: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:00] <Tscheesy_> untiled: give it a try - and please use Pastebin
[21:00] <M0n3ySh0t> James147, when trying to map \\192.168.0.25\Cardless im getting a error that says "192.168.0.25 was found but could not find 'cardless'"
[21:01] <theshow4life> im having a problem with 9.10 and i wanted to enable the effects and it started to download the right drivers and when i was done it restater and all i get is a black screen. i got nvidia 8800 gts in SLI hope you guys can help thanks.
[21:01] <untiled> Tscheesy_: it's an only one line. sun-java6-jdk: Dipends on: sun-java6-bin (= 6-15-1) but 6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04 is going to be installed
[21:02] <Tscheesy_> untiled: this a conflict in your Repos.. do you use ppa's ?
[21:03] <James147> M0n3ySh0t: I take it "Cardless" is the name of the share? (is the case correct?)
[21:03] <Tscheesy_> untiled: is this Jaunty?
[21:04] <untiled> Tscheesy_ i have a ppa repo but it doesn't have java package. this is my sources.list file http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/401373/
[21:04] <zus> thanks guys for all the help, i did figure out the tray problem.  it was a crash.  not sure of the reason kwin or kde4.4 yet though
[21:04] <KjetilK> Tscheesy_, oh, ok, so meanwhile I would need to configure it with wvdial or something?
[21:05] <FremenBlue> got a problem with kde starting up, link to it here ->>>http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1438799
[21:05] <Tscheesy_> KjetilK: i couldn't manage it under Karmic - the gnome networkmanage coult be capable
[21:07] <Tscheesy_> untiled: v6-15-1 is in Multiverse - you should switch off the ppa's and try again
[21:08] <FremenBlue> what happens is, when i start up the laptop for the first time everyday, it loads normally up to the KDM loading screen, then completely freezes at the hard disk icon. if i press Ctrl+alt+f1 before the hard disk icon loads, i can get to console.
[21:08] <FremenBlue>  
[21:08] <FremenBlue>  also, sometimes afterwards, usually about 20-30 minutes of me rebooting into various recovery/kernel/memorychecks; ill retry a normal boot and tahdah it is working again. this makes me believe it could be a hardware problem.
[21:08] <FloodBotK1> FremenBlue: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:08] <Tscheesy_> untiled: and because you have to accept an end-user-agreement do it in the console
[21:09] <untiled> Tscheesy_ i replaced my sources.list with this one, i'm going to try again http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/401375/
[21:09] <arch0njw> wow... touchy floodbot.  :)
[21:10] <Tscheesy_> untiled: empty your cache and update first with sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get update
[21:11] <untiled> Tscheesy_ ok, I'm going to try
[21:13] <FremenBlue> anyway i posted xsession log, heres some of the errs that caught my eye:         Invalid D-BUS member name     and           X Error: XSyncBadAlarm 152                   and                          XRANDR error base: 162                          and           WARNING: Application calling GLX 1.3 function "glXCreatePixmap" when GLX 1.3 is not supported! This is an application bug!                   and                          Unable
[21:13] <FremenBlue>  to connect to bluez.
[21:13] <FremenBlue>  <unknown program name>(1666)/: Communication problem with "krunner" , it probably crashed.     Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." "
[21:13] <FloodBotK1> FremenBlue: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:14] <untiled> Tscheesy_ it still doesn't work
[21:15] <Tscheesy_> untiled: what says apt-cache policy sun-java6-jre
[21:16] <M0n3ySh0t> James147, yes that is, and the case is correct, every time i try to access it it asks for a name a password but there isnt one assigned
[21:17] <untiled> Tscheesy_ it return with this (i think italian localization shouldn't be a problem) http://paste.ubuntu.com/401380/
[21:18] <Tscheesy_> untiled: remove current nstalled version and try to reinstall it
[21:18] <zus> thanks again everyone
[21:20] <untiled> Tscheesy_ i cannot, too many packages depend on it! I tried with "sudo aptitude reinstall sun-java6-bin" but it still return with an error
[21:21] <THEH> hi ppl need help do any one got the Synaptic Multi-touch trackpad working.... my hardware is acer aspire one d250-1dw
[21:21] <James147> M0n3ySh0t: try -> http://www.prash-babu.com/2008/07/samba-share-folders-or-files-without.html
[21:22] <Tscheesy_> untiled:  cause you have 6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04 installed - here i have 6-15-1
[21:23] <Tscheesy_> untiled:  did you do that by manual download
[21:24] <zus> ok for the fun stuff, what is the KDEublog for can that be used for myspace and or facebook? multiple blogs or one only...
[21:25] <untiled> Tscheesy_ no, but some time ago i put my check on "purposed", it was an error. Do you think i can manual install jdk by sun website?
[21:25] <Tscheesy_> untiled: no - use packetmanagement
[21:26] <untiled> Tscheesy_ what's this?
[21:27] <Tscheesy_> untiled:  apt-get or kpackageekit in Systemsettings ;)
[21:28] <Tscheesy_> -e
[21:28] <untiled> Tscheesy_ ok, but i cannot install jdk!
[21:29] <Tscheesy_> untiled: yes - i recommend remove current version first
[21:31] <Tscheesy_> untiled:  and then clean cache
[21:32] <untiled> Tscheesy_ how?
[21:33] <Tscheesy_> sudo apt-get remove java-...
[21:34] <Curly_Q> I have installed Kubuntu. I want to remotely use a SSH GUI from a Windows box. I don't want to use puTTY which does not have the GUI I use, e.g., SSH Tectia Secure Shell and Tunnel. All I get when I console into my Linux box is permission denied. Any suggestions?
[21:36] <fahadmoideenks> hi
[21:37] <untiled> Tscheesy_ done, now clean and then reinstall it?
[21:37] <Tscheesy_> [22:10:35] <Tscheesy_> untiled: empty your cache and update first with sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get update
[21:37] <Curly_Q> If I have root access, why do I have to give myself permissions? I have done the sudo -i I get into root.
[21:39] <Curly_Q> I am in:    <root>@<Hostname> Why does the SSH Client not work?
[21:39] <Bonster> how u make it press the enter key in bash?
[21:39] <Curly_Q> i.e.,  not copy and paste and delete and move files?
[21:39] <Tscheesy_> Curly_Q: do you have openssh-server running?
[21:40] <Curly_Q> If I am in root I am sure it is running, unless I am doing something wrong.
[21:40] <Tscheesy_> Curly_Q:  ps -aux | grep sshd
[21:40] <BluesKaj> don't use root for one, also the ip should be entered as well, ssh username 192.168.x.x
[21:40] <Curly_Q> Let me check that. Thanks.
[21:41] <untiled> Tscheesy_ done, now i have to reinstall it and try to install jdk?
[21:41] <Curly_Q> Tscheesy I got this for the query:  Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[21:42] <Tscheesy_> untiled: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[21:42] <Curly_Q> That was done in <root>
[21:43] <Tscheesy_> do it as user
[21:43] <untiled> it seem to be working, thank you Tscheesy_. Now it's late here and I'm going to bed, thank you again
[21:44] <Tscheesy_> ah - yes Curly_Q i get this too  Plus two lines for processes - sshd and the grepping
[21:44] <Curly_Q> Tscheesy same thing:  Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[21:44] <Tscheesy_> untiled: yw
[21:44] <James147> Curly_Q: You should only use root for commands that need to be run as root, and then it is better to use sudo <command> rather then logging in a root
[21:45] <Curly_Q> I am behind a firewall and a router with firewall. Root should not be a problem for me. I just want to get the job done without permissions.
[21:45] <bbeck> \q
[21:46] <Tscheesy_> Curly_Q: sshd seems not to be running then.. the machine your ssh'ing in needs the openssh-server
[21:46] <Curly_Q> Even with remote SSH behind a firewall, I still get permission denied when in root.
[21:47] <Curly_Q> What is the difference Tscheesy between the both?
[21:47] <Tscheesy_> hm? its one
[21:47] <Curly_Q> Should I apt-get openssh-server            ?
[21:47] <Tscheesy_> Yess ;)
[21:48] <Curly_Q> Will that interfere with the ssh server running and should I disable it?
[21:48] <pascal_> In 10.04,  I'm having problems with the 3G modem in knetworkmanager. it works fine in nm-applet. Who can I talk to i about?
[21:48] <Tscheesy_> Curly_Q:  ps -aux | grep sshd didn't bring up something hence?
[21:50] <Tscheesy_> pascal_: maybe in #ubuntu+1 since its still Beta-SW
[21:51] <Curly_Q> Do I need to do:  sudo apt-get openssh-server
[21:51] <pascal_> Tscheesy_: thanks I'll try that
[21:51] <Tscheesy_> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:51] <Curly_Q> OK   it is building dependencies.
[21:51] <new_bember> hi2all
[21:51] <jmichaelx> pascal_: if you do not find a solution, you could also just use nm-applet in KDE. you would not be alone in doing that
[21:52] <pascal_> Well yes.. But it would be nice not to, right?
[21:52] <Curly_Q> Should I log out and log back in and see if that works? What about the other ssh Server?
[21:53] <Tscheesy_> Curly_Q: grep again for sshd
[21:54] <Curly_Q> ps -aux | grep sshd
[21:54] <Curly_Q> Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[21:54] <Curly_Q> root       916  0.0  0.6   5364   768 ?        Ss   15:35   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[21:55] <Tscheesy_> Curly_Q: please use Pastebin
[21:55] <Tscheesy_> so now its running - here some more Infos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[21:55]  * Tscheesy_ has to leave - by
[21:56] <Curly_Q> I have been there Tscheesy, but it does not answer why this error is prevelant.
[21:56] <Tscheesy_> k - try again to ssh into now
[21:57] <Curly_Q> I am in the Linux box again.
[21:57] <Curly_Q> I can do ls -all and more.
[21:57] <Curly_Q> It works but let me try the copy and paste with ssh.
[21:58] <Curly_Q> Tscheesy it works. Thanks a bunch.
[21:58] <Tscheesy_> yw - by
[21:59] <Curly_Q> :0
[21:59] <Curly_Q> :)
[21:59] <Curly_Q> :)
[21:59] <FloodBotK1> Curly_Q: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:59] <Curly_Q> OK.
[21:59] <axxel> Ьт всем....
[21:59] <Curly_Q> Just happy.
[22:02] <Typos_King> !ru | axxel
[22:15] <zus> when using the kgpg on  with key import. and navigating to my folder. there are 6 files in the gnupgp  folder which one do i import
[22:18] <Typos_King> ..
[22:19] <Typos_King> can't say.... haven't used gpg much myself... from the times of using pgp, I recall the .key file was the one with the keys
[22:21] <rosco_y> what gui do I use to manage users?
[22:23] <chuckf> zus: secring.gpg
[22:23] <Tm_T> rosco_y: kuser ?
[22:24] <chuckf> zus assuming you want your secret key imported
[22:25] <zus> hey chuckf
[22:27] <Typos_King> rosco_y:    system settings > users management :)
[22:30] <zus> thanks for getting back to me on this same topic... im not sure what it is  im importing,  just yet, i know i got all the files from that folder hehe
[22:34] <chuckf> zus now that you have kgpg running go to the 'view' menu and select 'Show only secret keys'
[22:41] <zus> chuckf,  sorry was afk  ok 'view' 'show only secret keys'...
[23:02] <hoban> hello. I just installed ubuntu lucid. how do I install a minimal kubuntu desktop to try out?
[23:08] <James147> hoban: If your just intrested in kde try "kde-minimal"
[23:09] <zus> chuckf,  you still around?
[23:09] <James147> hoban: If you want a full kubuntu install "kubuntu-desktop"
[23:15] <zus> James147, wwhen importing the secring for gpg. you set the trust to full or ultimate?
[23:15] <James147> zus: Don't know much about gpg keys :S
[23:16] <zus> James147,  ok... ill try to look up if it can be changed if i set it wrong
[23:53] <yasser> hi alll
[23:53] <yasser> hello every one
[23:55] <Typos_King> allo
[23:57] <lappie> i was running kubuntu from disk and i could not manage 2 get an internet connection set up, where do i find the instructions for doing so, or can someone tell me the easiest way, i did find the correct wireless modem, but i could not get it to connect