[00:00] <h4f> I can't sort applications in app store by Rating
[00:00] <Neezer> anyone here familliar with ipods and rhythmbox? I'm having a problem getting mine connected.
[00:00] <h4f> by anythink actually
[00:01] <daniskami> DarkTao: try binding a key to `eject'
[00:01] <DarkTao> daniskami, in keyboard shortcuts?
[00:01] <daniskami> DarkTao: http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/10/24/ejectclose-cd-or-dvd-media-with-shell-command/
[00:01] <daniskami> DarkTao: yes
[00:01] <DarkTao> daniskami, thanks buddy
[00:04] <DarkTao> daniskami, yay, it works :D
[00:04] <daniskami> DarkTao: you're welcome :)
[00:08] <cousteau> seems that everybody is sleeping on #ubuntu-motu...
[00:09] <cousteau> or maybe I didn't explain myself right in there
[00:10] <fatum> 10.04's performance is really nice, however some applications that use Open GL are terribly slow.  GTK+ recordMyDesktop is also very slow.  The applications ran fine on 9.10, could it be a problem with my card?  Radeon HD 3200
[00:12] <cousteau> fatum: maybe you have desktop effects or composition making OpenGL slow
[00:13] <zachster10> Ubuntu one stopped working for me
[00:14] <fatum> cousteau:  I'm using desktop effects, however open gl performance was still great on 9.10 with the advanced effects enabled.
[00:14] <cousteau> oh
[00:18] <DarkTao> daniskami, ok some strange behaviour with eject command. it doesn't eject the disc :S
[00:18] <DarkTao> daniskami, it unmounts the dj, then does nothing, if i press it again it
[00:18] <fatum> Even with the effects turned off, still terrible open gl performance
[00:18] <fatum> on some applications
[00:18] <daniskami> DarkTao: it umounts but doesn't eject?
[00:18] <DarkTao> daniskami, yes
[00:19] <DarkTao> daniskami, if i press the key a second time, it then ejects, but the tray closes straight away LOL
[00:19] <daniskami> DarkTao: that's strange indeed
[00:19] <DarkTao> i have 0.3 seconds to insert a different disc :P
[00:21] <daniskami> DarkTao: does this happen all the time?
[00:21] <DarkTao> daniskami, well i only just made a keybind for it... but if a disc is in the tray and mounted, the eject button on the front wont do anything
[00:21] <DarkTao> i assume its a linux caveat?
[00:22] <daniskami> yes, it is necessary to unmount it, but `eject' should handle that
[00:23] <DarkTao> daniskami, eject simply unmounts the disc
[00:24] <daniskami> there's also `eject -T' which opens the tray when it's closed and vice versa
[00:24] <DarkTao> daniskami, if used a 2nd time, it ejects the tray, then closes again
[00:25] <daniskami> DarkTao: I have no idea why it does :(
[00:25] <DarkTao> daniskami, weird
[00:33] <DarkTao> someone just severed the interwebs cables running beneath the atlantic LOL
[00:33] <CalmvsKhaos> LMAO
[00:33] <Hellow> Hello, other side of Freenode.
[00:34] <yofel> ^^
[00:34] <DarkTao> either that or my DeLorean just created a rift in space-time
[00:36] <Hellow> DarkTao: So that explains it.
[01:04] <maccam94> are there any known problems with php in 10.04?
[01:07] <maccam94> so far i've had issues doing two separate things with it today
[01:08] <kklimonda> have you checked launchpad?
[01:28] <maccam94> figured it out, php.ini had all sorts of stuff disabled because it's a development version
[01:41] <root___> need a bit a help, i ned to install an older version of the kernel 2.6.31-20 would be prefered
[01:41] <root___> how would i roll back?
[01:47] <FeasibilityStudy> I am getting this problem on Lucid when trying to do a system upgrade
[01:47] <FeasibilityStudy> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:48] <FeasibilityStudy> and when I run the command, I get this error:
[01:48] <FeasibilityStudy> update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-17-generic
[01:48] <FeasibilityStudy> dpkg: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[01:50] <FeasibilityStudy> and when I try to even do an update I get the same error and the update won't complete
[01:51] <Fudge> hi
[01:51] <Fudge> hi, i know this question  isnt exactly on topic now, but were there reported errors in alpha3 when moving large amounts of files please?
[01:52] <charlie-tca> you would have to check launchpad to be sure
[01:52] <SpudDogg> Can someone tell me if there is anything wrong with editing '/etc/apt/sources.list', replacing karmic with lucid instead of using 'update-manager'?
[01:53] <SpudDogg> (then of course apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade)
[01:53] <FeasibilityStudy> Does anyone of the hundreds of people here not know anything about my above errors?
[01:53] <charlie-tca> SpudDogg: You would need to comment out anything unofficial until after the upgrade
[01:53] <charlie-tca> but other than that, it should work. It just takes more effort
[01:54] <SpudDogg> charlie-tca:  right, assuming only the actual ubuntu repos are being used
[01:54] <charlie-tca> SpudDogg: should work fine, then
[01:54] <FeasibilityStudy> SpudDogg: Wont do you much good because the lucid update/upgrade process is screwed
[01:54] <SpudDogg> is that why im getting http://pastebin.com/2S42xj4B ?
[01:54] <Fudge> whoops loL
[01:55] <Fudge> copying from ntfs drive internal, to ext2 partition internall, diffsata drives on alpha3 i at times get complete os freezes
[01:57] <TecnoBrat> FeasibilityStudy: define screwed?
[01:57] <TecnoBrat> I just started it like ... oh 4 hours ago
[01:57] <TecnoBrat> I'm hoping its almost done, haha
[01:57] <centaur5> Why isn't Lucid detecting SATA drives that all other releases were able to work with?
[01:58] <charlie-tca> FeasibilityStudy: perhaps it is bug 540686
[01:59] <FeasibilityStudy> charlie-tca: yeah it might be.
[01:59] <FeasibilityStudy> but since I cant update or upgrade my system I wonder how I will get the fix pushed to me?
[02:02] <jeiworth> hi @ll
[02:09] <kklimonda> SpudDogg: update-manager does some things that simple dist-upgrade can't
[02:10] <FeasibilityStudy> oh well, looks like a major bug in lucid..I should of expected that with Beta..  But its a pretty major bug
[02:11] <kklimonda> FeasibilityStudy: you should subscribe to the bug and wait for a manual way of fixing it
[02:12] <FeasibilityStudy> kklimonda: That bug looks like it is for Karmic, not Lucid
[02:13] <kklimonda> bug 540686 is definitely for lucid and not fixed yet
[02:14] <kklimonda> FeasibilityStudy: if it's not this error you should paste more of your error to the pastebin.com so we can take a look at it
[02:14] <kklimonda> the part you have pasted is just a result of something else being broken
[02:15] <FeasibilityStudy> kklimonda: Ok I will pastebin everything here in a sec..
[02:19] <FeasibilityStudy> kklimonda: http://pastebin.com/9my3d2A7
[02:19] <FeasibilityStudy> that is what happens when I run "sudo aptitude update"
[02:19] <kklimonda> result of sudo dpkg --configure -a is more interesting
[02:21] <FeasibilityStudy> kklimonda: Here is what happens when i run "sudo aptitude upgrade"
[02:21] <FeasibilityStudy> http://pastebin.com/DzY0YC9g
[02:22] <FeasibilityStudy> And here is what happens when I run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[02:22] <FeasibilityStudy> http://pastebin.com/KNxbmRTC
[02:22] <kklimonda> run sudo update-initramfs -v -u -k 2.6.32-17-generic
[02:24] <FeasibilityStudy> kklimonda: http://pastebin.com/2R76Bpfw
[02:26] <kklimonda> you should probably report it and attach this logs to the bug
[02:26] <kklimonda> use ubuntu-bug initramfs-tools
[02:27] <FeasibilityStudy> kklimonda: I should report a new bug?  You not think this is related to the other one?
[02:27] <kklimonda> I don't understand where does Killed come from
[02:27] <kklimonda> it doesn't look like it
[02:27] <FeasibilityStudy> what is ubuntu-bug initramfs-tools?
[02:28] <kklimonda> it is a tool that is going to collect some data that may be useful for developers and then open a browser window for you to finish bug reporting
[02:28] <FeasibilityStudy> how do I run it?
[02:29] <kklimonda> ubuntu-bug initramfs-tools from terminal will do the trick
[02:29] <FeasibilityStudy> ok got it
[02:30] <FeasibilityStudy> BTW, I have been having kernel crashes on occaission when I start my PC
[02:30] <FeasibilityStudy> but I havent been able to get a backtrace because it keeps wanting me to test the upstream kernel..I am no kernel dev so I have no clue how to do that
[02:32] <kklimonda> no idea here
[02:36] <FeasibilityStudy> kklimonda: Ok here is my bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/546599
[02:38] <MindVirus> Hey. I don't have any VTs.
[02:39] <MindVirus> Actually when I try to use a VT I get weird graphics errors.
[02:40] <MindVirus> ...?
[03:04] <ironm> hi ... one question .. typo3 4.3.1 (ubuntu 10.04 beta1 amd64) ... the following error .. any idea where to look ? .. TNX in advance :-)
[03:04] <ironm> PHP Fatal error:  session_start(): Failed to initialize storage module: files (path: ) in /usr/share/typo3/typo3_src-4.3/typo3/index.php on line 122
[03:06] <TecnoBrat> I would check your php.ini, specifically the part about session stores.
[03:07] <ironm> hi TecnoBrat .. I had .. but didn't find anything "unusual"
[03:07] <TecnoBrat> session.save_path to be more exact
[03:07] <ironm> ok .. TNX :-)
[03:08] <TecnoBrat> but thats a php error .. you'd be better off checking php resources for help
[03:09] <ironm> TecnoBrat: ;session.save_path = "/tmp"
[03:10] <ironm> how to check the resources for help TecnoBrat ?
[03:31] <ironm> TecnoBrat: /etc/typo3-dummy/apache.conf - line php_admin_value open_basedir ... - I have added "/tmp/:" after open_basedir
[03:33] <Dracari> is the TI PCI1620 Card reader issue Fixed in 10.4?
[03:37] <eric1982> Any one else use Hydrogen on Ubuntu 10.4 and notice sound sound quality issues. (Crackly) music and video audio seems fine
[03:39] <sqwertle> I seem to be having trouble with UbuntuLooks not letting me open some programs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/400931/
[03:40] <TecnoBrat> wow .. having the ppa nvidia driver sure caused a crapton of problems upgrading heh
[03:41] <ZykoticK9> eric1982, do you notice the issue with any of the demo files?
[03:42] <ZykoticK9> TecnoBrat, any time you upgrade you should disable all non-core repositories/PPAs
[03:43] <TecnoBrat> ZykoticK9: the problem was that the driver I was using is higher than any driver version in lucid
[03:43] <TecnoBrat> and has versions of mplayer, and other stuff
[03:43] <TecnoBrat> after I downgraded all of those, now its fine
[03:43] <ZykoticK9> TecnoBrat, back to my point :)
[03:44] <TecnoBrat> the repos were disabled, I actually had to downgrade the packages manually after the upgrade
[03:44] <TecnoBrat> infact they are still disabled
[03:44] <ZykoticK9> ummm, good to know then!
[03:46] <eric1982> zykotick9 yeah
[03:47] <eric1982> thats where I noticed it
[03:48] <ZykoticK9> eric1982, in all of them?  All the ones I tried didn't seem to have any audio issues
[03:51] <csgeek> I install lucid on a macbook pro and I'm trying to install sun-java.  I enabled the partner repo..and It's still not showing up.  Anything I'm missing?
[03:52] <ZykoticK9> csgeek, it's certainly in the partner repo
[03:52] <eric1982> I am just getting a really crakley sound
[03:52] <csgeek> I already enabled the partner repo..
[03:52] <ZykoticK9> eric1982, it doesn't seem to be an issue with Hydrogen
[03:53] <eric1982> what would you suggest I look at? I am not having issues with any of my music files or video
[03:54] <ZykoticK9> csgeek, apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin -- Candidate: 6.18-2 -- lucid/partner Packages
[03:54] <ZykoticK9> eric1982, sorry i really don't have any suggestions for you, good luck man.
[03:54] <ZykoticK9> csgeek, did you run "sudo apt-get update" after enabling partner?
[03:55] <Jeff91> My 10.04 system cannot see/print a test page to the printer attached to my 9.10 system. I selected the make and model but when I tell it to run off the test page tells me it can't find the printer. Any suggestions?
[03:55] <TecnoBrat> csgeek: I heard someone say earlier if they adjust the volume, they don't get crackles
[03:56] <TecnoBrat> errr ...
[03:56] <Jeff91> csgeek EEE PC?
[03:56] <TecnoBrat> eric1982: ^^
[03:58] <csgeek> oops.. figured out my bug
[03:58] <csgeek> It was set to karmic
[03:59] <csgeek> at least I'm fairly sure that would fix it.
[04:01] <eric1982> ZykoticK9 played with my preferences > Audio System and changed it from auto to OSS and then my device
[04:01] <eric1982> ZykoticK9 That seemed to fix it
[04:01] <eric1982> not sure why
[04:01] <ZykoticK9> eric1982, nice!
[04:03] <eric1982> ZykoticK9 and TecnoBrat Thanks for the help, It was greatly appreciated
[04:03] <ZykoticK9> eric1982, thanks for having the issue - now i have a new toy to play with :)
[04:10] <chandru_in> I killed notify-osd manually once.  Now ever if I restart the system, notifications do not get hidden (not using compiz) on mouseover instead it get a black border.  How do I fix this?
[04:14] <AbortD> is it possible to switch empathy with pidgin in lucids and have the little envelope icon to control it
[04:14] <frybye> Any information on compat. of 10.4 mit Sun V-Box?
[04:20] <crimsun> frybye: more specifically?
[04:20] <crimsun> 3,1,4 should work fine with 10.04
[04:28] <AlcariTheMad1> how do i revert the min/max/close buttons to their old positions(the right side of the window)?
[04:30] <Rave1> AlcariTheMad1,  if you install
[04:30] <Rave1> ubuntu Tweak
[04:30] <chandru_in> After yesterday's update I also notice that I'm unable to click anything under notifications and since notifications don't have any option to close manually I'm having to wait till it times out.  Is this a known issue in the update?
[04:31] <Rave1> AlcariTheMad1,    there is an app in Ubuntu Tweak that will fix that
[04:31] <Gnimsh> hi there
[04:31] <Gnimsh> So I'm in konversation, and I was trying to accept a DCC but the file would not write to my home folder
[04:31] <Gnimsh> i renamed it multiple times
[04:31] <Gnimsh> tried xchat
[04:31] <Gnimsh> pidgin
[04:31] <Gnimsh> same problem
[04:31] <Gnimsh> then ran konversation as root and it worked.
[04:32] <Gnimsh> I shouldn't have to do run it as root to make that work
[04:32] <DanaG> Gnimsh: looks like an "AppArmor" issue, perhaps?
[04:32] <frybye> crimsun: 3.1.4 does not seem able to set up the client additions correctly with 10.4?
[04:32] <Gnimsh> DanaG, no idea
[04:32] <Gnimsh> I haven't touched apparmor
[04:32] <DanaG> try finding where konversation binary lives, and then sudo aa-complain that path.
[04:33] <Gnimsh> not output
[04:33] <Gnimsh> no*
[04:33] <frybye> re: gwibber - I don't seem able to find any place to enter my pw for access to flicker - so gwibber of course cant access the service - any tips?
[04:34] <DanaG> Gnimsh: that command is expected to give no output.
[04:34] <DanaG> But now try konversation as non-root again.
[04:34] <Gnimsh> ok
[04:35] <Gnimsh> brb
[04:37] <Gnimsh> ok that worked
[04:37] <happyface> how do I dl a whole subversion revision locally?
[04:40] <Gnimsh> so I don't understand how firefox can save my tabs each session, but it can't save a file to my home folder
[04:48] <AlcariTheMad1> Rave1: thanks, that fixed it
[04:49] <kassah_> mysql-server: Depends: mysql-server-5.1 but it is not going to be installed   E: Broken package
[04:49] <kassah_> is there a way to get more information as to what's going on there?
[04:49] <kassah_> that's when I try to install mysql-server
[04:52] <Gnimsh> DanaG, is this aa-complain command per session or permanent?
[04:52] <DanaG> I believe it's permanent -- but perhaps file a bug on konversation not being allowed to write to home dir.
[04:52] <DanaG> Or check for an existing bug.
[04:53] <DanaG> an example title: "AppArmor blocks Konversation from saving to home dir"
[04:54] <DanaG> the package to file against would probably be either Konversation, or apparmor-profiles, or both.
[04:54] <Gnimsh> I had just installed some updates today and didn't restart, and I think that may have had something to do with it
[04:55] <Gnimsh> I also couldn't save files from firefox to home, pidgin failed to log my conversations
[04:55] <Gnimsh> etc
[04:55] <Gnimsh> I think i noticed it first in konversation though
[04:55] <DanaG> weird.
[04:55] <Gnimsh> now firefox saves as does pidgin
[04:55] <DanaG> maybe it wasn't really apparmor....
[04:55] <DanaG> if the whole home dir was RO, that would do it.
[04:55] <DanaG> (RO = Read-Only)
[04:57] <Gnimsh> i don't believe that was it because home is on a separate partition and I watched the installer take ownership of the whole partition
[05:02] <perscitus> Panel in Kubuntu is well.. doesnt work in vbox.
[05:05] <DanaG> Gnimsh: if the journal had an error, it would have remounted /home RO.
[05:05] <DanaG> ... most likely.
[05:06] <perscitus> my bad.
[05:07] <Gnimsh> i don't believe there was an error
[05:07] <FeasibilityStudy> anyone else having issues with initramfs-tools being broken on Lucid?
[05:07] <Gnimsh> I just installed app armor notifications forlater though
[05:08] <Gnimsh> FeasibilityStudy, let me know how to run it and i'll check
[05:08] <FeasibilityStudy> Well Gnimsh, whenever I try to update or upgrade my system via aptitude, I can't because initramfs-tools is broken and I get errors.
[05:09] <Gnimsh> ah
[05:09] <FeasibilityStudy> and dpkg stops with an error
[05:09] <DanaG> Gnimsh: oh, and to undo the aa-complain, "aa-enforce"
[05:09] <Gnimsh> i just use the update manager
[05:09] <Gnimsh> DanaG, that is per application or system-wide?
[05:09] <DanaG> sudo aa-enforce /usr/bin/konversation (or whatever path)
[05:09] <nixpet> Hey all, I have a question regarding ubuntu 10.04 64 bit install and it giving a cannot create ext4 error on my drive when trying to do a fresh install, and the hard drives are good. Anyone have any hints?
[05:09] <DanaG> same as aa-complain.
[05:09] <Gnimsh> So FeasibilityStudy are you updating from the CLI instead of update mnager?
[05:10] <Gnimsh> k thanks
[05:10] <FeasibilityStudy> Gnimsh: I am on Kubuntu
[05:10] <FeasibilityStudy> and yeah I am using aptitude
[05:11] <Blue11> i need to boot into recovery mode in 10.4 but grub just boots and never gives me the option
[05:12] <Gnimsh> why not use the update manager?
[05:12] <Gnimsh> I don't use kde so i can't really suggest much else
[05:13] <Gnimsh> there sure are lots of updates being pushed out every day for the beta
[05:14] <Blue11> i need to create the /home mount point on my 2nd drive, and I can't get ther from here
[05:15] <Gnimsh> try from the live cd
[05:18] <git__> anybody test out suspend and resume on ubuntu 10.04?
[05:50] <alkisg> Any known problems with firefox not starting (with no error messages) after yesterday's updates?
[05:51] <alkisg> Hmmm it does run in safe mode...
[05:57] <DanaG> argh, stupid ureadahead.
[05:57] <DanaG> er
[05:57] <DanaG> "no such file or directory"
[05:57] <DanaG> it wants /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/fs/do_sys_open/enable -- doesn't exist on drm-next kernel.
[06:08] <AbortD> i have spiky25
[06:09] <spiky25> and does it work well for now ?
[06:09] <AbortD> sure does
[06:09] <AbortD> works great for me
[06:09] <AbortD> i got it because it works better than karmic does for me
[06:09] <AbortD> since i use ati and amd hardware
[06:09] <AbortD> and atheros
[06:10] <spiky25> nice by the way ati xpress 200M/ Xpress 1150 256 Mo work well on it ?
[06:10] <DanaG> xpress 200m sucks everywhere, even in Windows.  =þ
[06:11] <AbortD> lol
[06:11] <AbortD> spiky it should i use a radeon 3200 hd
[06:11] <spiky25> I'm on Archlinux lxde for now but Lubuntu 10.04 caught a lot of my interest if it have 64 bits version, I'm all in !!!
[06:11] <AbortD> i would be i love it
[06:11] <AbortD> nice integration with messengers too
[06:11] <spiky25> Can't change it for now, I got a laptop ...
[06:12] <AbortD> same spiky
[06:12] <DanaG> anyway, the hardware I have is Mobility HD3650.
[06:12] <AbortD> i want to buy another laptop :D
[06:12] <DanaG> http://hpfansite.com/hp-elitebook/ati-firepro-m5800-appears-elitebook-8540w-dreamcolor/#comments
[06:13]  * DanaG is a big fan of the EliteBook line... they're badass.
[06:13] <AbortD> :P
[06:13] <spiky25> I won't buy a laptop again, surely an HTPC will be my next eden !!!
[06:13] <AbortD> HTPC?
[06:14] <DanaG> home theater PC.
[06:14] <AbortD> oooo
[06:14] <DanaG> Too bad Digital Cable demands Windows Media Center.
[06:14] <spiky25> mid ATX tower ...
[06:14] <spiky25> DanaG I will keep a multi-boot anyway
[06:15] <AbortD> thats what im doing with my laptop since it came with windows 7
[06:15] <DanaG> same here... though mine came with Vista.
[06:15] <AbortD> i figured if i pay for it i may as well use it
[06:16] <spiky25> Windows FLP/Windows 7 ultimate 64 bits/Archlinux 64 bits (lxde)/*hackintosh*
[06:18] <AbortD> windows flp?
[06:18] <AbortD> hackintosh?
[06:18] <DanaG> hackintosh?
[06:18] <DanaG> bleh.  I can't stand OS X.
[06:18] <spiky25> FLP = Fundamentals for legacy pcs, it's based on windows xp embeded ...
[06:19] <AbortD> hmmmm
[06:19] <spiky25> lightweight and just what I need nothing more, not too slim also and well supported (Msdnaa license)
[06:20] <AbortD> hm i will bbiaf im hungry
[06:24] <Tricia> 10.04 is ignoring my noauto, and drives which are outside of /media are showing up in nautilus
[06:24] <Tricia> noauto in fstab
[06:24] <Tricia> When I log in it attempts to mount everything
[06:25] <lappie> can i run ubuntu 10.04 on a cd like ubuntu 9.10?
[06:29] <git__> anyone know how I can get to the grub menu when booting up?
[06:30] <DanaG> escape, or shift?
[06:30] <lappie> i think its e or c or tab or something
[06:30] <git__> let me try ... have to reboot
[06:30] <lappie> can i run ubuntu 10.04 on a cd like ubuntu 9.10?
[06:31] <spiky25> lappie yes always like all versions ...
[06:31] <bbordwell> git__, do you want it to come up every time?
[06:31] <DanaG> yeah, I forgot to ask that.
[06:31] <lappie> spiky25 kewll thanks
[06:32] <spiky25> almost all linux distro are live cd now don't worry
[06:32] <bbordwell> lappie, you can run it off of a >1gb flash drive and it is alot faster
[06:32]  * Tricia frowns at all the automounted devices 
[06:33] <DanaG> oh heck, you can INSTALL to a flash drive, instead.
[06:33] <bbordwell> DanaG, that requires an 8gb or larger flash drive
[06:33] <spiky25> what's wrong with automount, I use it on Archlinux without problems, why cry that is not needed ?
[06:34] <bbordwell> DanaG, but with startup disk maker you only need 1gb
[06:34] <AbortD> am i able to download ubuntu server software into the non server version?
[06:34] <lappie> bbordwell i just want to see it, i may install it on my aspire 1 just 2 check it out
[06:35] <spiky25> AbortD: yes
[06:35] <lappie> but ill run it off cd 1st to check it out
[06:35] <AbortD> hm i run a acer aspire
[06:35] <lappie> unless you wanna mail me a flash drive rofl
[06:35] <bbordwell> lappie, haha i was just putting it out ther
[06:35] <lappie> yep an acer aspire one, i call it itty bitty biotch
[06:36] <spiky25> ubuntu main repositories contain all xfce, kde and gnome packages and many more
[06:36] <Tricia> spiky25: because all the fstab lines have "noauto"
[06:36] <AbortD> lol what version i have a 5532
[06:36] <lappie> good suggestion though bbordwell, i do plan on gettin a flash so i can take my os with me :)
[06:36] <Tricia> spiky25: It's mounting remote drives when I'm not asking it to
[06:37] <spiky25> who tried lubuntu 10.04 here ?
[06:38] <AbortD> lappie if you decide to install ubuntu on your aspire i suggest lucid lynx
[06:38] <AbortD> has more driver support
[06:38] <AbortD> thats all i run
[06:38] <Tricia> I can't even begin to think of why it's ignoring my noautos
[06:39] <lappie> AbortD thanks ill have 2 read up on it, but meanwhile why do u suggest it?
[06:40] <AbortD> out of the box it has all your drivers and just runs slick offers almost everything windows does but better
[06:40] <AbortD> gives me better battery life too i think
[06:41] <lappie> ohh cool good lookin out :)
[06:41] <AbortD> yup
[06:41] <AbortD> unless you play alot of games on windows its better to switch
[06:41] <AbortD> i see my moms computer going to shit all the time from spyware
[06:41] <AbortD> complete lockout stuff
[06:42] <DanaG> heh, my mom's iMac (with OS X, that supposely "just works") often kernel panics, or fails to turn on, or has other random issues.
[06:42] <lappie> i have 2 keep windows for games and bryce 5 but i cannot wait to totally get rid of it ;)
[06:43] <AbortD> lol
[06:43] <AbortD> hehe
[06:43] <AbortD> i need to get bryce again
[06:44] <DanaG> read files from an SD card.... kernel panic.
[06:44] <lappie> i can hook u up with a copy  AbortD :)
[06:47] <lappie> bryce 5 runs in whine, but not very well, none of the sliders work :(
[06:47] <AbortD> hehe i got a crappy dl rate :P
[06:47] <AbortD> hehe
[06:47] <AbortD> i only get 120kbps
[06:48] <MikeChelen> is there any way to start/stop gwibber service through gui?
[06:48] <lappie> i think its pretty small im gettin the disk now, its a rar w a crack and reg key
[06:48] <AbortD> system > admin > system monitor then kill it
[06:48] <MikeChelen> ok, wish there were a better way
[06:49] <lappie> AbortD its 77.5 mb
[06:49] <AbortD> thats it?
[06:50] <AbortD> send away then :P
[06:50] <lappie> yep, it compresses very well
[06:51] <lappie> take it or leave it, its up 2 u
[06:51] <AbortD> :P
[06:51] <AbortD> i accepted it
[06:52] <lappie> unzip it to a folder, and there's instructions on how to install n everything in it if i remember right
[06:53] <AbortD> is the dl still going?
[06:53] <lappie> dosent look as if its transferring at all
[06:54] <lappie> ive had this prob before, but idk how to fix it
[06:54] <AbortD> ah well im sure i can find it
[06:54] <AbortD> how well is bryce working these days?
[06:54] <AbortD> i havent used it in years
[06:54] <AbortD> gotta make yer own textures and all that?
[06:55] <lappie> still works good, u dont even have 2 use any compatibility modes or anything
[06:55] <AbortD> in windows 7?
[06:55] <lappie> idk, im sure with xp mode it will
[06:56] <lappie> i have vista
[06:56] <AbortD> 7 and vista are pretty much the same
[06:58] <lappie> lets try again i just changed the transfer ul speed from 0 to 10000
[06:58] <lappie> maybe thats why i always have this prob
[06:59] <lappie> it could be that freenode is not allowing file transfers
[07:00] <AbortD> it going?
[07:01] <almoxarife> file xfers are user to user
[07:01] <lappie> i dont think so, do u know of another way?
[07:01] <almoxarife> either of you two has a firewall issue
[07:01] <AbortD> not it
[07:01] <lappie> i have no firewall going at all
[07:02] <AbortD> could be a router firewall
[07:02] <lappie> possible, i am using a router/modem its a linksys w wireless and ethernet
[07:03] <lappie> i can bust it up into 10mb sections and email them 2 u
[07:04] <lappie> or microsoft messenger, but ill have 2 switch to windows and set it up, what ever u suggest is fine.
[07:05] <lappie> OHH DUH what aobut ubuntu1??
[07:11] <lappie> AbortD ?
[07:11] <AbortD> sorry back
[07:12] <lappie> ohh rofl, we can share files via ubuntu one cant we?
[07:12] <AbortD> haha yeah i think
[07:13] <lappie> k, im ul'in it now,, well i think its ul ing it says sending request to file.one etc
[07:14] <lappie> ok, its ul ing for sure, do u have ure ubuntu 1 account set up?
[07:14] <cemc> no sun-java in lucid ?
[07:14] <AbortD> no
[07:14] <AbortD> sec
[07:15] <lappie> kk its ul'd just let me know when ure done and what email u used so i can add u to my share list
[07:18] <AbortD> abortd@gmail.com
[07:20] <lappie> ok now i think all u have 2 do is add me as a contact its zelozelos1@live.com
[07:21] <lappie> ohh, click on the shared with me folder rofl
[07:22] <lappie> let me know when your done dl'ing so i can remove it, i dont like the idea of leaving a cracked program on a ftp site
[07:22] <lappie> even if it is old as hell rofl
[07:23] <AbortD> k
[07:24] <AbortD> last time i opened it it took me to a webpage now it takes me no where
[07:28] <lappie> hmmm
[07:29] <maccam94> is there no longer a default search indexer for ubuntu?
[07:29] <lappie> ok i just did the share thing for you again, try it again
[07:29] <maccam94> i thought it was tracker, but it's not installed
[07:30] <AbortD> try now lappie
[07:31] <AbortD> got it
[07:31] <lappie> woo hooo
[07:32] <lappie> there u go pal, thers instructions in the bryce 5 install info.txt and i saved an extra copy of the serial, u can use any name and company u want but dont register rofl
[07:32] <AbortD> dling
[07:32] <AbortD> lol
[07:33] <AbortD> i need to find a wifi extender
[07:33] <maccam94> anybody know what's up with tracker in the default install?
[07:33] <AbortD> i want to broadcast like a 200 yard range
[07:34] <lappie> i know someone who had one of those but i cant remember what it was called , i keep thinkin it was a repeater, but idk
[07:36] <AbortD> i dont think what i want is a repeater
[07:36] <lappie> my neighbor leaves his unsecured so sometimes i log in to his and use itty bitty to play movies while im dl'ing n stuff, its a sweet deal, 2 internet connections for the price of one :)
[07:36] <AbortD> because i live in a town of clusters of houses
[07:37] <AbortD> i wanti want to be able to access my networked files from anywhere :P
[07:38] <lappie> ohhh, a wireless network hub w a range extender  check this page     http://shopping.yahoo.com/20717152-belkin-wireless-g-universal-range-extenderaccess-point-hub/
[07:39] <AbortD> getting a wireless n router would get further reach :P
[07:39] <AbortD> i get my buddies connection from 100 yards away
[07:42] <lappie> my neighbor knows i sometimes use his connection, its a small payment for all the times i've fixed his puter issues for him
[07:43] <lappie> i wish i could use both connections at the same time to double my speed rofl
[07:43] <lappie> hows the dl goin?
[07:44] <AbortD> 92%
[07:45] <AbortD> lappie you can with win7 i am pretty sure if u got the right wireless card
[07:46] <AbortD> dl is done
[07:46] <ZykoticK9> AbortD, lappie you're both very offtopic for this channel + pirating software & stealing internet is also big NO NOs -- you've both put your email addressing in the channel, which is logged, so spam bots will probably find them -- move to another channel or PM each other please.
[07:46] <AbortD> heh sorry
[07:46] <lappie> rofl sorry charlie
[07:50] <bbordwell> AbortD, lappie, have either of you tried to make an audio cd through rhythmbox on lucid?
[07:50] <lappie> i dont burn audio cd's but i thin its possible
[07:50] <lappie> ZykoticK9 r u a bot?
[07:51] <bbordwell> lappie, yes I did it on karmic many times, but on lucid when i click create audio cd nothing happens
[07:51] <bbordwell> I have filed a bug but no one else has marked it as affecting them
[07:51] <ZykoticK9> lappie, nope - human being
[07:52] <bbordwell> lappie, if he was a bot i think he just passed the turing test
[07:52] <lappie> ZykoticK9 whats with the busta man? jeez
[07:53] <bbordwell> lappie, if your willing could you test it on your system and see if it works?
[07:53] <lappie> i havent installed lucid yet, i just finished burning the disk
[07:53] <bbordwell> lappie, ahh ok
[07:53] <bbordwell> 64bit?
[07:54] <lappie> can you burn anything at all?
[07:54] <bbordwell> lappie, yes
[07:54] <bbordwell> lappie, it is just the rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder that is not working
[07:54] <lappie> just no cda's hmm, try a diff program like a nero clone or moovidea
[07:54] <bbordwell> in rhythmbox when you right click a playlist and say create audio cd, it opens brasero
[07:55] <bbordwell> but in my case nothing happens at all
[07:55] <lappie> moovidea is buggy but i think it lets u burn
[07:55] <bbordwell> lappie, i can even make audio cds in brasero
[07:56] <bbordwell> just using rhythmbox to more easily create a playlist does not work
[07:56] <lappie> ahh, u just cant burn through the rythmbox, yeah, sounds like a bug 2 me as well. try uninstalling rythmbox and deleting its settings file, then reinstallin it
[07:57] <bbordwell> lappie, would purge accomplish this?
[07:57] <lappie> purge?
[07:57] <bbordwell> lappie, yes it is a command that goes after apt-get
[07:57] <bbordwell> in synaptic it is called completly remove
[07:58] <AbortD> yes purge
[07:58] <AbortD> let me check it first
[07:58] <ZykoticK9> bbordwell, Rhythmbox doesn't do anything when I select Create Audio CD either - what is the bug #?
[07:58] <bbordwell> ZykoticK9, just a sec
[07:58] <lappie> ahh, i dont know, i just uninstall via the software center, then open a root terminal and navigate to the folder w the settings and rm -r it
[07:59] <bbordwell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/543892
[08:00] <bbordwell> bug 1
[08:00] <lappie> bug 2
[08:00] <lappie> rofl
[08:00] <bbordwell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
[08:01] <bbordwell> Got to love bug 1 :)
[08:01] <bbordwell> ZykoticK9, did you get my link?
[08:02] <ZykoticK9> bbordwell, your bug now affects 2 people :)
[08:02] <bbordwell> ZykoticK9, thank you, sometimes bugs will not get any attention until more that one person confirms it
[08:02] <bbordwell> ZykoticK9, do you get the same terminal output as me if you open rhythmbox in a terminal?
[08:03] <bbordwell> its in one of the comments
[08:03] <ZykoticK9> bbordwell, i'm guessing it will need a LOT more then 2 people.  Personally I can't stand rhythmbox never use it myself.
[08:03] <ZykoticK9> bbordwell, actually - with the music store, perhaps I'll start
[08:04] <lappie> i like how u can hold your mouse over a file and listen 2 it, but not sure if that bcause of rythmbox or nt
[08:04] <bbordwell> ZykoticK9, actualy a core-dev already resonded but i answered his ? and he has not show any more input
[08:04] <bbordwell> lappie, I did not know you could do that
[08:04] <bbordwell> lappie, like when you are in nautilus?
[08:05] <lappie> yep
[08:06] <bbordwell> lappie, that is one of the coolest things i have ever seen on a computer
[08:06] <lappie> i know, it freaked me out at first i thought something was totally wrong rofl
[08:07] <bbordwell> lappie, even works on my alac files
[08:07] <lappie> it'd be really freakin cool if u could do that w movies
[08:07] <bbordwell> lappie, the video would interfear though, maybe just the audio?
[08:07] <lappie> like show every few hundred'th frame or smthin
[08:07] <bbordwell> interfere*
[08:08] <bbordwell> well i suppose it could work sort of like window previews in compiz
[08:09] <lappie> OH nice, i just found the storage device manager ive been wondering if i could mount the ntfs automatically for a while now :)))
[08:10] <bbordwell> hmm they are being kind of slow about uploading firefox 3.6.2
[08:11] <bbordwell> lappie, i used to do it
[08:12] <bbordwell> lappie, i think i just used fstab though
[08:12] <lappie> AbortD if u have any q's about bryce5 just email me i know it pretty well, ttfn peeps its time 4 beddie bye
[08:12] <AbortD> email me real fast so i got yer email
[08:14] <lappie> ther u go did u get it?
[08:15] <AbortD> yup
[08:16] <lappie> kk, later
[08:16] <AbortD> later bro
[08:23] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[08:25] <JohnFlux> I upgraded to lucid lynx and now my startup screen is purple and says "ubuntu"
[08:25] <JohnFlux> Can I make it more kubuntu-like ?
[08:30] <bbordwell> johnflux, are you talking about the plymouth splash screen of the login screen?
[08:30] <bbordwell> or not of
[08:36] <JohnFlux> bbordwell: I guess so
[08:36] <JohnFlux> bbordwell: I'm guessing that there's a version for kubuntu
[08:36] <JohnFlux> bbordwell: blue or something  :)
[08:39] <Sensiva> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/10.04/
[08:53] <BUGabundo_remote> bom dia
[08:55] <yofel> good morning BUGabundo_remote
[08:57] <bbordwell> johnFlux, try the solar theme
[08:57] <bbordwell> it is blue
[08:57] <bbordwell> though it still says ubuntu
[08:58] <bbordwell> This should be fixed in the future though
[08:59] <gnomefreak> where do i get solar?
[09:00] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, it is included already
[09:00] <bbordwell> i am trying to remember how to change it though
[09:00] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: thanks
[09:01] <bbordwell> i am running it right now but i can not remember the command used to change it
[09:01] <bbordwell> sudo plymouth-set-default-theme solar --rebuild-initrd
[09:01] <bbordwell> i think that is it
[09:02] <gnomefreak> oh solar is a plymouth theme
[09:05] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, yes
[09:05] <bbordwell> plymouth-set-default-theme --list
[09:05] <bbordwell> that shows all available plymouth themes
[09:05] <BUGabundo_remote> hey nice
[09:05] <BUGabundo_remote> themeeessssssss
[09:05] <BUGabundo_remote> so it doesn't need to be pink at boot for one second
[09:05] <BUGabundo_remote> and I just need to run that to set it?
[09:05] <BUGabundo_remote> cool
[09:06]  * BUGabundo_remote needs a gui
[09:06] <bbordwell> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man8/plymouth.8.html
[09:06] <bbordwell> very useful
[09:07] <bbordwell> anyone here use special characters (íéñ)
[09:07] <bbordwell> took me a long time to figure out how to do it today
[09:09] <BUGabundo_remote> me
[09:09] <BUGabundo_remote> é á à ó
[09:09] <bbordwell> how do you do it?
[09:09] <bbordwell> its very easy once you figure it out
[09:09] <bbordwell> but it took me forever to figure it out
[09:10] <bbordwell> too bad the alt codes from windows dont work
[09:12] <bbordwell> does anyone here know if it is safe to run 2 fans off of one motherboard fan header?
[09:13] <zubatac> hi
[09:13] <bbordwell> (off topic i know)
[09:13] <bbordwell> zubatac, hi
[09:13] <yofel> bbordwell: if it can supply enough power yes I think (I did it once [cpu + 1 chassis fan] and the motherboard survived)
[09:14] <zubatac> Problem: nikon coolpix  S1 no detect, and f-spot don't import photos
[09:14] <bbordwell> zubatac, do you have an sd card reader in your computer?
[09:14] <zubatac> yes
[09:15] <bbordwell> yofel, okay i will give it a try, no big deal if i fry the fan header anyway
[09:15] <bbordwell> chepo motherboard
[09:15] <zubatac> bbordwell: ok
[09:15] <zubatac> bbordwell: and f-spot?
[09:15] <bbordwell> zubatac, then you could work around the issue by removing the memory card from the camera and using the card reader
[09:16] <bbordwell> zubatac, i have never used f-spot
[09:16] <zubatac> bbordwell: ok for card reader
[09:16] <bbordwell> zubatac, what does f-spot even do?
[09:17] <bbordwell> i went to try it out once but it started making copies of all of my pictures
[09:17] <zubatac> bbordwell: don't import photos ( and I cannot organize the photos
[09:18] <bbordwell> zubatac, i belive if you just copy and paste the pictures from the memory card to your pictures folder it should work
[09:18] <bbordwell> I am not sure though as i do not use f-spot
[09:19] <bbordwell> zubatac, if you plug in the memory card and then import that folder it is not working?
[09:20] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: you are correct, you should be able to just drag and drop them, the shouldnt be removed from mem card
[09:21] <zubatac> ok, thanks
[09:48] <elena12> In Ubuntu 10.04 Beta Netbook Edition, I can't unlock the gnome panel, the options are greyed out. What can I do to edit the gnome panel??
[09:50] <Damascene> any one using rtl locle?
[09:50] <Damascene> Arabic, Urdu or Hebrew?
[09:50] <Unksi> is there a way to make xorg to print out the current configuration it is using? the configuration file is non-existant so the configuration is autodetected
[09:56] <bbordwell> anyone here willing to try and reproduce a bug with gnome-panel?
[09:56] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: sure
[09:56] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, it may leave you with a bar on the right side that you can not remove
[09:57] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: what bar?
[09:57] <gnomefreak> can you provide a screen shot of the problem
[09:58] <bbordwell> right click on the top gnome-panel and click add new panel
[09:58] <bbordwell> when i did it no new panel came up
[09:58] <Wizzup> patdk-wk: ping
[09:58] <bbordwell> but on the right of my screen i can see my background
[09:58] <bbordwell> and no windows can maximize all the way
[09:59] <bbordwell> and there is no way to remove the invisable panel
[09:59] <gnomefreak> it didnt add a new panel for me
[09:59] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, try to maximize a window now
[09:59] <bbordwell> does it maximize all the way?
[09:59] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: what window
[10:00] <bbordwell> any window. Your IRC client for example
[10:00] <gnomefreak> add panel option should only add it to desktop. the panel you mean is an extra paneil on desktop?
[10:01] <Wizzup> patdk-wk: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/193682/ && http://paste.pocoo.org/show/193683/
[10:01] <Wizzup> That is with ureadahead
[10:01] <Damascene> is it possible for some one who is using karmic to use a program from Lucid
[10:01] <gnomefreak> it didnt add a new panel on desktop. I tried to max the window than min it and still no desktop panle was added
[10:02] <gnomefreak> Damascene: its not really advised
[10:03] <Damascene> what if you want someone to test a bug in Lucid without having it installed?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> depending ont he program/app you want to use. if the deps changed karmic may not have them you it can get messy
[10:03] <gnomefreak> Damascene: how would you know if there is a bug in the app if you are not using it?
[10:03] <bbordwell> Damascene, you could use a virtual machine
[10:04] <yofel> Damascene: usually running lucid from a live disk or in a VM is adviced then
[10:04] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/546759
[10:04] <bbordwell> see the attached screenshot
[10:04] <gnomefreak> damn my show ended : time for a smoke - goes look at bug beofre smokle
[10:05] <Damascene> I mean like rawhide in fedora
[10:05] <Damascene> it has the latest software
[10:06] <Damascene> I want some one with Karmic to test evolution
[10:06] <Damascene> without having to download the full lucid
[10:06] <bbordwell> Damascene, go to packages.ubuntu.com
[10:06] <bbordwell> you can download the .debs for anything
[10:06] <bbordwell> but it may be hard to get all the dependencies satisfied
[10:06] <bbordwell> on karmic
[10:08] <Damascene> would the user find it if he enabled backports?
[10:08] <Damascene> I mean on Karmic
[10:09] <yofel> Damascene: no, evolution comes bundled with gnome, so you need a newer gnome version, which means you need lucid
[10:10] <AbortD> yofel you cant evolution as a .deb
[10:10] <AbortD> ?
[10:11] <gnomefreak> building gnome /evo is not something that you can just grab the .deb for you will need more packages
[10:11] <AbortD> i just for evolution download
[10:12] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: i commented and made changes to importance nad status
[10:12] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, yes thats why i said it may be hard to get the dependencies
[10:12] <yofel> AbortD: you could, but evolution has quite a few dependencies, so you'll probably have to update half of gnome just to install evo
[10:12] <yofel> or half of the system
[10:12] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, a restart helps this bug
[10:12] <AbortD> damascene do you want to update half of gnome?
[10:12] <AbortD> :P
[10:12] <yofel> as evo is pretty much the same in karmic and lucid
[10:12] <bbordwell> i will be adding a comment
[10:12] <AbortD> i dont like evolution
[10:12] <gnomefreak> all gnome packages are lot of work. IIRC you would have to rebuild gnome and friends
[10:12] <yofel> except a few bugfixes
[10:13]  * gnomefreak coffe+smoke=yay!!
[10:13] <gnomefreak> be back
[10:13] <Damascene> AbortD, no :)
[10:14] <AbortD> thunderbird ftw
[10:16] <bbordwell> AbortD, does thunderbird minimize to system tray?
[10:16] <AbortD> think so
[10:16] <AbortD> i have mine to minimize into my envelope icon
[10:17] <bbordwell> AbortD, that would be very useful i will have to give it a try
[10:17] <AbortD> you have to do a little work around to get it into the mail icon though
[10:18] <bbordwell> AbortD, I am using alltray with evolution now
[10:18] <AbortD> alltray?
[10:18] <bbordwell> !info alltray
[10:18] <AbortD> im googling
[10:18] <AbortD> ah
[10:19] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, ahh i see you are a developer?
[10:20] <AbortD> anyways back to editing my bot
[10:20] <bbordwell> ?
[10:21] <nieuw> hello there
[10:21] <bbordwell> nieuw, hello
[10:22] <nieuw> is it not strange to recommend irc as a support channel and have empathy not supporting irc chat?
[10:22] <AbortD> ?
[10:22] <bbordwell> nieuw, haha i agree
[10:23] <zubatac> boys can i install virtualbox on lucid?
[10:23] <bbordwell> zubatac, yes
[10:23] <bbordwell> software center....
[10:23] <nieuw> and did you see the strange sexy2.lib that gets installed when installeing x-chat gnome?
[10:23] <zubatac> bbordwell: version no ose
[10:23] <nieuw> odd
[10:23] <bbordwell> nieuw, i think thats part of php5
[10:24] <bbordwell> zubatac, I have it on my system right now
[10:24] <yofel> !info libsexy2 | nieuw
[10:24] <nieuw> lucid lynx needs some clean up , before it hits the street
[10:24] <bbordwell> ahh gtk
[10:24] <nieuw> who has it running?
[10:24] <yofel> nieuw: what running?
[10:24] <bbordwell> lucid?
[10:24] <nieuw> yes
[10:25] <bbordwell> most people here
[10:25] <bbordwell> me
[10:25]  * yofel 
[10:25] <zubatac> bbordwell: version on site virtualbox for 9.10
[10:25] <bbordwell> since alpah2
[10:25] <nieuw> does it show the splash at boot over there?
[10:25] <nieuw> it does not here, ...
[10:25] <bbordwell> nieuw, yes i am using nouveau driver
[10:25] <bbordwell> what type of graphics?
[10:25] <bbordwell> do you have
[10:25] <nieuw> intel i think 950
[10:26] <gnomefreak> bug 546759
[10:26] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: gdm restart will do it. no need to restart system
[10:26] <nieuw>  82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
[10:26] <nieuw> thats the beast right there
[10:26] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, ahh good idea alt+sysreq+k?
[10:28] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, i see your on the mozilla team, do you know why its taking so long to upload 3.6.2?
[10:28] <nieuw> i might have to install 8.04
[10:28] <Damascene> where to report web site problems?
[10:28] <nieuw> i have got an job to install 60 pc"s with ubuntu
[10:28] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: its being worked on . It landed yesterday but waiting for nspr/nss
[10:28] <Damascene> I mean which channel
[10:29] <nieuw> i guess lucid is not ready yet
[10:29] <znh> 3.6.2 fixes an important security issue correct?
[10:29] <gnomefreak> i dont recall if that was all we are waiting for
[10:29] <gnomefreak> nieuw: ready as in stable no it is not ready
[10:29] <nieuw> yeah
[10:29] <bbordwell> znh, the issue you are thinking of is windows onley
[10:29] <Damascene> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports show links for interpied
[10:29] <znh> bbordwell, that's a relief
[10:29] <gnomefreak> znh: yeah just 1 but it should be ready before weeks end if all goes as planed.
[10:30] <Damascene> https://launchpad.net/intrepid-backports/+filebug
[10:30] <gnomefreak> nieuw: i sill be in touch with the person working on it sometime today
[10:30] <bbordwell> znh, 3.6.2 fixes 111 bugs most of them affecting all operating systems
[10:31] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: give me the link to the CVEs that it fixes (should be on one page from Mozilla
[10:32] <bbordwell> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20status1.9.2%3A.2-fixed
[10:32] <bbordwell> I dont think that is what you wanted
[10:33] <bbordwell> http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox36.html#firefox3.6.2
[10:34] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: :) you still working on nspr/nss?
[10:34] <gnomefreak> that was easy :)
[10:34] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak, yes
[10:34] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: is that all we are waiting for for 3.6.2?
[10:35] <chrisccoulson> yes ;)
[10:35] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: sweet :)
[10:35] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: ^^^
[10:35] <bbordwell> just out of curiosity, what is nspr/nss?
[10:36] <gnomefreak> IIRC security libs/parts for Mozilla
[10:36] <chrisccoulson> bbordwell, http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/pki/nss/
[10:37]  * gnomefreak doesnt recall what they stand for but that link should tell you
[10:38] <gnomefreak> btw only 8 secirty updates (CVE/MFSA
[10:38] <gnomefreak> )
[10:38] <znh> secirty sounds dirt
[10:38] <rye> hi, anybody here aware where modem-manager gets its plugins? I.e. Longcheer, Generic, MotoC, Gobi etc ?
[10:38] <bbordwell> !info modem-manager
[10:39] <rye> !info network-manager
[10:39] <bbordwell> !info modemmanager
[10:39] <rye> but network-manager package does not have any of these strings, that's why I am wondering...
[10:39] <rye> bbordwell, thanks!!!
[10:40] <bbordwell> rye, that was useful to you?
[10:40] <bbordwell> haha i just had no idea what modem-manager was
[10:40] <rye> bbordwell, yup, modem-manager in network-manager is an interface to modemmanager, and I browsed only network-manager sources
[10:41] <bbordwell> rye, haha well im glad i could accidentally help you :)
[10:48] <nieuw> how would i change the window buttons from left to right?
[10:49] <bbordwell> nieuw, I belive you have to change something in gconf-editor
[10:49] <bbordwell> but I am not sure what
[10:49] <yofel> nieuw: see description of bug 532633
[10:50] <gnomefreak> nieuw: hold on i gave like a while ago
[10:51] <gnomefreak> or not. that bug should have the 2 work arounds
[10:52] <gnomefreak> gconftool-2 --set "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" --type string "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
[10:52] <gnomefreak> that will moove them to right
[10:52] <bbordwell> I like them on the left
[10:52] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: left handed?
[10:52] <bbordwell> nope
[10:53] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, I hated it at first, but after about a week i changed it back to the right and I hated that
[10:53] <gnomefreak> hmmm most right hand users like it on right (right handed or lac user
[10:53] <gnomefreak> s/lac/mac
[10:53] <bbordwell> it grew on me i gues
[10:53] <AbortD> gnomefreak, what side you use it on?
[10:53] <yofel> I set them to the right here in KDE too to test it and I'm rather fond of it now (right handed too)
[10:53] <AbortD> its nicer on programs like xchat
[10:53] <yofel> er... *left -.-
[10:54] <yofel> ... left side, right handed
[10:55] <AbortD> :P
[10:56] <bbordwell> are there any PPA´s for 3d accelerated nouveau?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> anyone know what the menu me is?
[10:56] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, I dont
[10:56] <AbortD> menu me?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: the xorg-edgers
[10:56] <yofel> me menu?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> AbortD: yeas i think that is name of it
[10:56] <yofel> wasn't that the whole social integration thing of the indicator applet?
[10:56] <nieuw> how did you change them ( window buttons ) back to the left again?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> gconftool-2 --set "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" --type string "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
[10:57] <gnomefreak> nieuw: ^^^
[10:57] <yofel> nieuw: like I said, see the bugs description, there are 2 workarounds there
[10:57] <AbortD> you talking about gwibber gnomefreak ?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> run that command and poof it changes
[10:57] <nieuw> thats the same thing or not?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> AbortD: is that what it is for?
[10:57] <yofel> nieuw: that command is the first workaround
[10:57]  * gnomefreak not able to run gwibber today for some reason
[10:57] <AbortD> yeah
[10:57] <yofel> nieuw: but it looks bad with ambience
[10:58] <nieuw> whats the way to undo the first command?
[10:58] <AbortD> gnomefreak, the type right mail icon click it and then there is a broadcast thing
[10:58] <AbortD> top*
[10:58] <AbortD> tired sorry
[10:58] <nieuw> so to move it from right to left again
[10:58] <gnomefreak> AbortD: thanks i will try it
[10:58] <yofel> nieuw: use the command again with a different order, "maximize,minimize,close:" is the left-side order
[10:59] <nieuw> ah i see
[10:59] <gnomefreak> nieuw: use gconftool-2 --set "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" --type string "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
[10:59] <nieuw> great tips
[10:59] <yofel> gnomefreak: that's still the right-side order
[10:59] <AbortD> what if i go close maximize minimize?
[10:59] <bbordwell> gconftool-2 --unset "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" --type string "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
[10:59] <bbordwell> What does that do?
[10:59] <bbordwell> anyone want to try my command?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> yofel: i know i thought that is what he wanted
[11:00] <yofel> hm, does --unset, take a --string param?
[11:00] <gnomefreak> hold on
[11:00] <yofel> gnomefreak: yes, but he wanted to know how to set it back to the left too
[11:00] <gnomefreak> yofel: ok hold on i have command
[11:00] <AbortD> gnomefreak, its the upper right thing when you click your name too
[11:00] <nieuw> unset is not a known command
[11:01] <bbordwell> nieuw, hmm
[11:01] <bbordwell> it is in the man page
[11:01] <nieuw> really , ha
[11:01] <gnomefreak> http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/move-buttons-to-right-side  gives both
[11:01] <yofel> nieuw: --unset, not unset
[11:01]  * gnomefreak should be making a wiki in the next day or to than i will add it to bot
[11:01] <nieuw> i copyed your command
[11:02] <gnomefreak> to move to left use gconftool-2 --set "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" --type string "maximize,minimize,close:"
[11:02] <yofel> nieuw: then --unset might not work together with --type
[11:02] <gnomefreak> if you read the page i gave it shows both commands
[11:02] <bbordwell> yofel, I agree
[11:02] <nieuw> gconftool-2 --set "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" --type string "maximize,minimize,close:"
[11:02] <nieuw> thats to move it back to the left
[11:02] <yofel> yes
[11:02]  * gnomefreak gave you that command already
[11:03] <gnomefreak> and the link to both commands
[11:03] <bbordwell> yofel,  in the man page is says use set with --type
[11:03] <bbordwell> but not for unset
[11:03] <nieuw> okey got to do some work
[11:03] <bbordwell> i assume that is the difference
[11:03] <nieuw> thanks for the great tips!
[11:03] <nieuw> bye bye
[11:04] <bbordwell> how do you do the star thing?
[11:04] <bbordwell> like where gnomefreak said gnomefreak gave you that command already
[11:06] <gnomefreak> Pici: i have a question about bot if you are here. i cant remember if you use !bleh #channel is bleh bleh bleh or if you can just due it in the channel if that is the only channel you want
[11:06] <yofel> bbordwell: '/me ...'
[11:07] <bbordwell> ./me likes man pages
[11:07] <bbordwell> './me likes man pages'
[11:07] <yofel> without the dot at the beginning ;)
[11:08] <bbordwell> lol
[11:08] <bbordwell> oops
[11:08]  * bbordwell likes man pages
[11:08] <bbordwell> nice
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> In gnome - if you right click/properties on an AVI f (or other video) file. I thought in the old release it had a tab of a Lot of information about the video files codec, fps, and other settings.. that seems gone on  this machine.
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> Anyone care to see if its  there for them?
[11:31] <bbordwell> Dr_Willis, i will
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> that was one nifty feature in the gnome file manager i liked.
[11:32] <bbordwell> It is there for me
[11:32] <bbordwell> a tab called audio/video
[11:32] <bbordwell> on the far right
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. I wonder if i removed somthing that broke that
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> actually i DID remove totem i think :) that may of broke it.
[11:33] <bbordwell> it is with theroa/voribs
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> lets see what reinstalling ubuntu-desktop does
[11:33] <bbordwell> both open source codecs if you did not know
[11:33] <bbordwell> also there for .avi
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> yea - well the avis i have are just xvid codecs. but i recall the info working on avi, mkv, and other videos as well as audio files
[11:34] <bbordwell> Dr_Willis, did you upgrade?
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> this box was a Kubuntu netbook instgall. then i installed ubuntu-desktop
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> so it may have smthing missing
[11:35] <bbordwell> ah yes, I am an advocate of clean installs
[11:37] <yofel> u-d should install everything necessary though
[11:37] <yofel> but mixing gnome and kde is always an adventure
[11:47] <gnomefreak> !controls
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[11:48] <howlymowly> hi poeple...  I am just upgrading to kubuntu lucid lynx... and I am asking myself:  will kubuntu replace the default ubuntu splash screen?
[11:48] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, are you adding things to the bot?
[11:48] <bbordwell> howlymowly, i belive so
[11:49] <bbordwell> howlymowly, you mean the plymouth screen right?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: yes
[11:49] <yofel> gnomefreak: neither link mentions sams ppa
[11:49] <howlymowly> bbordwell: if thats the purple one with red and white flashing dots... yepp :)
[11:49] <yofel> or is the broken look the only one supported?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> yofel: it shouldnt :) it is only for more info on it. not to mention PPAs are not supported
[11:50] <bbordwell> howlymowly, yep that plymouth. yes that is a small change that should be worked out
[11:50] <gnomefreak> When i have time i will make a Wiki on it and i will mention it on the wiki and point bot to wiki
[11:55] <bbordwell> howlymowly, plymouth-set-default-theme -l
[11:55] <bbordwell> you can change the theme
[11:55] <bbordwell> I like solar
[11:55] <xsacha> what's with gedit flashing the full text document and then telling me it cant open it because it doesnt know the character encoding??
[11:56] <howlymowly> bbordwell: does that also work for 9.10? bbordwell otherwise I will have to wait until the update is done :)
[11:57] <bbordwell> howlymowly, plymouth is only on lucid
[12:19] <elena12> In Ubuntu 10.04 Beta Netbook Edition, I can't unlock the gnome panel, the options are greyed out. What can I do to edit the gnome panel?? http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/681/panellocked.jpg
[12:19] <void^_> gedit refusing to open a file because there might be some invalid characters is really cute
[12:20] <xsacha> the problem is gedit actually opens the file and shows the whole thing.. and it looks good... then it hides it all and tells u it couldnt open it
[12:20] <blekos> hi, I keep have the following problem from v9.10: cannot connect to wpa & wp2 networks. Using asus eeepc 1000h
[12:20] <void^_> welcome to gnome design mentality. it's getting a little annoying lately.
[12:21] <gnomefreak> blekos: support for 9.10 is in #ubuntu
[12:22] <blekos> i know, but i am having 10.4 now
[12:23] <gnomefreak> blekos: you said the problem was on v9.10
[12:24] <blekos> i said I keep having...
[12:24] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, technically he said from 9.10 which could also be interpreted as it carried over
[12:24] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[12:24] <blekos> i said I keep having...?
[12:25] <gnomefreak>  blekos bbordwell yeah i re read it
[12:25] <bbordwell> blekos, you can connect to unsecured networks?
[12:25] <blekos> yes
[12:25] <blekos> i connect  to secured networks as well (wep)
[12:31] <lotharreeger_> Hallo I´ve installed ubuntu 10.04beta1 and my window-patition are disappeared.What can I do
[12:33] <lenios> lotharreeger_, how did it disappear?
[12:33] <lenios> you should have a backup
[12:33] <patdk-wk> probably chose the, use whole drive autoconfig
[12:34] <yofel> blekos: I have an 1000H here using the rt2860sta driver, I can connect to wpa2 at home fine, you could try wicd to see if it's a n-m issue
[12:36] <lotharreeger_> I don´t know.After I installed the Ubuntu the Patition ,grub2 don´t displayed windows.I haven´t deleted it.
[12:37] <kyubutsu> lotharreeger_: if grub isnt listing all your partitions, i'd start with  update-grub
[12:39] <lotharreeger_> I have got tree HD.One for Windows.I´ve reinstall grub2 but not grub-update.
[12:39] <yofel> lotharreeger_: that means, open a terminal (applications->accessories->terminal) and type 'sudo update-grub' in there and give your password when asked
[12:40] <lotharreeger_> I´ve already done
[12:42] <blekos> n-m issue?
[12:42] <lotharreeger_> I´ve reinstall update grub and I reboot it.So long
[12:43]  * kyubutsu sighs
[12:44] <blekos> oh network manager?
[12:44] <yofel> blekos: yes, network manager, sorry
[12:46]  * kyubutsu getting ready to install beta1 .. download in progress..
[12:47] <kyubutsu> kind of a coincidence.. today beta2 phase starts..
[12:48] <kyubutsu> that one's not released yet is it?
[12:48]  * kyubutsu chuckles
[12:49] <gnomefreak> kyubutsu: beta 2 has not been released
[12:49] <gnomefreak> yet
[12:49] <kyubutsu> kind of thought so, though..
[12:49] <gnomefreak> please see the topic for a link to schedule
[12:49]  * gnomefreak be back
[12:49] <blekos> yofel: i'll try it, but do you have any idea why this should happen?
[12:50] <yofel> blekos: nope, you might find something in dmesg or in the NM output in /var/log/syslog
[12:51] <kyubutsu> blekos: your issue is against wpa encrypted networks only?
[12:51] <blekos> could you tell me how to output this?
[12:51] <blekos> yes only then
[12:52] <blekos> and smg else should I remove the default gnome n/m ?
[12:52] <kyubutsu> yay.. something to look forward to dealing with (got wpa here too)
[12:52] <bbordwell> blekos, system>administration>log file viewer
[12:52] <bbordwell> to look at the syslog
[12:53] <bbordwell> blekos, did you upgrade recently?
[12:53] <blekos> yes
[12:53] <blekos> but I had the same problem with 9.10
[12:54] <bbordwell> blekos, someone last night had their internet stop working after updating to the -17 kernel
[12:54] <kyubutsu> might be your hardware?
[12:54] <bbordwell> perhaps you could try and install the -16 and try it?
[12:54] <bbordwell> i think it is still in the repositories
[12:55] <blekos> i'm checking the syslog just in case
[12:56] <kyubutsu> in my experience, network manager is one fine piece of software.. so dont lose hope
[12:56] <patdk-wk> if only it could understand vlans
[12:57] <patdk-wk> I would love to use network manager to do my vpn connections, but it's hopelessly confused by the vlans I use
[12:58] <bbordwell> patdk-wk, I have never seen a vlan
[12:58] <bbordwell> What do you use it for?
[12:58] <patdk-wk> never seen a vlan?
[12:58] <patdk-wk> 802.3q
[12:59] <blekos> i have paste-binned my log here http://pastebin.com/3uN41gT2
[12:59] <patdk-wk> 802.1q that is
[12:59] <blekos> just in case you have time to look at it
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:00] <gnomefreak> morning BluesKaj
[13:01] <BluesKaj> hi gnomefreak , what's up ?
[13:02] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: not much just getting ready for a meeting
[13:02] <bbordwell> patdk-wk, ahh that looks like it could be useful for large networks
[13:03] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, what is the meeting about?
[13:04] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: work im looking for another employee
[13:04] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, ah, do you work for canonical?
[13:05] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: nope i owna  custom repair shop
[13:06] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, I have thought about doing that, but seems like there are too many people doing it
[13:06] <bbordwell> though not many do linux
[13:07] <ianmartin> if i try to suspend or hibernate there is a very long pause before anything happens.  It works fine in the end but takes perhaps 1 minute with no obvious activity before anything happens.  Any advice?
[13:07] <gnomefreak> ianmartin: IIRC there is/was a bug on that
[13:08] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, so is all your work for Ubuntu volunteer?
[13:08] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: yep
[13:09] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, Thank you :)
[13:09] <gnomefreak> :)
[13:09] <bbordwell> I wish i could help, but i know only VERY basic programming
[13:10] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, though i suppose if you load customers machines with ubuntu you have an interest in it working well
[13:10] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: dont need to know how to program to help out.
[13:11] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, Well i try to help on the IRC channel and bug reports but thats about it
[13:12] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: that is very helpful we can always use people for IRC and bug reports ;)
[13:13] <bbordwell> gnomefreak, Haha im not so sure about bug reports. They get more than they can handle
[13:13] <bbordwell> though on pre-releases i think they help
[13:16] <yofel> bbordwell: if you want to get a bit more familiar with bugs you can join the bugsquad, no programming knowledge needed and we always need help
[13:16] <yofel> too many bugs get filed :D
[13:16] <kassah> =)
[13:17] <kassah> and it helps people like me who aren't always sure where to file a bug
[13:17]  * yofel makes some random advertising... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad
[13:18] <bbordwell> yofel,  perhaps i will do that
[13:19]  * kyubutsu is off to fresh install 10.04 beta1 from alternate
[13:19] <kyubutsu> i wonder how well would nouveau handle opengl
[13:20] <yofel> bbordwell: join us in #ubuntu-bugs if you have questions, it's usually either very busy or deadly quiet in there :P
[13:20] <kyubutsu> guess i'll find out soon enough
[13:20] <yofel> bbordwell: you can also just idle aroun in the channel, you'll get an overview what we do like that
[13:21] <mikeconcepts> is there a beta for ubuntu netbook remix such that we may experience the fruits of 10.4 now?
[13:21] <yofel> mikeconcepts: sure, shouldn't it be linked on the beta1 release page?
[13:21] <bbordwell> yofel, what is the channel?
[13:21] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-bugs
[13:21] <yofel> bbordwell: just mentioned it... #ubuntu-bugs
[13:22] <mikeconcepts> yofel, hope you're right, looking
[13:22] <gnomefreak> he is IIRC
[13:22] <bbordwell> yofel, I read the code of conduct but i do not see a way to sign it?
[13:23] <gnomefreak> bbordwell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct
[13:24] <cnd> I've got a new pinetrail netbook (64-bit atom), and I'm wondering what the best option is for lucid: netbook (only i386), or desktop
[13:24] <cnd> I really like the feel of the netbook edition, and I know there's a way to make a desktop image become a netbook-like ui
[13:24] <cnd> is there some easy way to do it?
[13:24] <yofel> meh, the release page is labled wrong, the ubuntu iso images link says server and desktop but the netbook image is there too
[13:24]  * gnomefreak goes back to my hiding spot
[13:25] <arand> cnd: all depnds on preference. Interface is main diff.
[13:25] <cnd> arand, yes, but how can I get the netbook ui on a desktop install?
[13:25] <mikeconcepts> yofel, found it, now wonder if it is possible to just upgrade from 9.10 to 10.4
[13:25] <gnomefreak> mikeconcepts: yes
[13:26] <yofel> mikeconcepts: it is, type 'gksu update-manager -d' in the run dialog or in a terminal
[13:26] <mikeconcepts> gnomefreak, thanks
[13:26] <gnomefreak> mikeconcepts: update-manager -d will do it before its released
[13:26] <gnomefreak> yofel: no need for sudo/and others
[13:26] <gnomefreak> it will ask for your password
[13:26] <gnomefreak> oh yeah sorry back to hiding
[13:26] <yofel> ah, nice, thx
[13:27] <yofel> ^^
[13:27] <kassah> hmm... is anyone else able to install mysql-server package?
[13:28] <yofel> kassah: works here (amd64)
[13:29] <kassah> odd... I'm on amd64... getting: "mysql-server: Depends: mysql-server-5.1 but it is not going to be installed" and if I try and install mysql-server-5.1 manually it gives me similar errors
[13:29] <yofel> oh,  I already have mysql-server-5.1 installed it seems
[13:30] <kassah> yeah... it looks to be a fairly fresh problem... my desktop still has mysql-server-5.1
[13:30] <kklimonda> kassah: use aptitude install mysql-server and it should display more detailer error
[13:32] <howlymowly_> hi poeple hi poeple...   i just resized my root partition..  but for some reason ubuntu does still only recognize the "old " size of the partition..  how can I force ubuntu to run a disk check at next start up?
[13:32] <kassah> http://pastebin.com/5LtLExB0 there we go... looks like a mysql_common mismatch
[13:33] <yofel> !fsck | howlymowly_
[13:33] <yofel> howlymowly_: wait, that's wrong o.O
[13:34] <howlymowly_> yofel: :) I was fiddling around with fsck but couldn#t get it to work...
[13:34] <kassah> howlymowly_, you need to tune2fs I think...
[13:34] <yofel> howlymowly_: 'sudo touch /forcefsck' I think
[13:34]  * kassah checks
[13:34] <yofel> and reboot
[13:34] <yofel> we need to update the bot...
[13:34] <howlymowly_> yofel: that's exactly what I did.. but it did not work for some reason...  hmm.  I will try it again...
[13:35] <howlymowly_> i'll be back in ~2 mins :=)
[13:35] <yofel> really? then I'm completely lost at understanding upstart fsck-ing -.-
[13:36] <howlymowly_> after sudo touch /forcefsck  I just need to reboot, right?
[13:36] <yofel> howlymowly_: it should work like that
[13:36] <yofel> maybe mountall has one more bug...
[13:36] <howlymowly_> alright...  give me a minute or two :)
[13:38] <yofel> kassah: ok, just checked updates, and if I want to update mysql It wants to remove several dozen packages :/
[13:39] <howlymowly> yeah yofel..  looks like it didn't work, again :)
[13:39] <kassah> yeah,... it looks like mysql-common is one version behind the rest of mysql.. which requires the most current package... which breaks it
[13:39] <howlymowly> maybe there is some grub command to force a disk check?  btw I am using kubuntu 9.10
[13:39] <kassah> howlymowly, http://pastebin.com/5LtLExB0
[13:39] <kassah> oops
[13:40] <kassah> yofel, http://pastebin.com/5LtLExB0
[13:40] <yofel> howlymowly: then I'm out of ideas, we had 'shutdown -F -r' once, but that was sys-v-init, upstart doesn't use that anymore
[13:40] <yofel> kassah: probably not build yet
[13:40] <kassah> mysql-common: 5.1.41-3ubuntu7 is the only available version
[13:40] <kassah> possibly... how long does that ussually take?
[13:41] <yofel> depens on the build  queue
[13:41] <kassah> welp.. we're at one day... I'll wait another... won't kill me
[13:41] <kassah> =)
[13:42] <yofel> hm, build queue is empty, maybe built but not yet published
[13:43] <BUGabundo_remote> howlymowly: just reboot :D
[13:43] <howlymowly> BUGabundo_remote: very funny ;-)
[13:43] <bbordwell> yofel, where is this? ~/.bashrc.
[13:44] <kassah> yofel, I havn't yet found a bug report releated to this... but I'm horrible at finding bugs
[13:44] <howlymowly> BUGabundo_remote: do you also have any constructive contributions :)?
[13:45] <BUGabundo_remote> howlymowly: not really. usually reboot would fix the size detection
[13:45] <yofel> bbordwell: the hidden file .bashrc in your home (~) folder
[13:45] <BUGabundo_remote> if that didn't happen, either you need to fsck it or there's a bug somewhere
[13:45] <yofel> kassah: the package built fine, probably stuck in the archive queue https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.1/5.1.41-3ubuntu8/+build/1579705
[13:46] <howlymowly> hmm.... BUGabundo_remote damnit ... why does sudo touch /forcefsck than not work on my system?!?!
[13:46] <yofel> kassah: (common is always built on i386)
[13:47] <kassah> yofel, that's i386
[13:47] <kassah> ah
[13:47] <yofel> kassah: the package is architecture independent, those are always built on i386
[13:49] <bbordwell> ben@ben-desktop:~$ gpg --send-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <XXXXXXX>
[13:49] <bbordwell> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[13:49] <bbordwell> yofel,  can you help me with that?
[13:50] <kassah> yofel, it at least seems to be installing after installing the mysql-common package manually
[13:50] <yofel> it does, but removes 'mysql-server' and 'mysql-client'
[13:51] <bbordwell> yofel, nvm i got it
[13:51] <yofel> well, those are meta-packages anyway
[13:51] <kassah> yeah...
[13:53] <yofel> ok, as I don't get any mysql updates on i386 it seems that all i386 package are stuck in the archive queue, thus the inconsistency
[13:53] <fabio333> a question about the sound applet
[13:54] <fabio333> i got rid of pulse and now there is no sound applet in the panel
[13:54] <fabio333> is it possible to have it back?
[13:54] <yofel> fabio333: that's to be expected as the sound applet needs pulse
[13:55] <BUGabundo_remote> howlymowly: beats me. I never used, nor I know how it is supposed to wrok
[13:55] <L0NELY-TR0LL> Good morning :)
[13:55] <fabio333> but the sound works with alsa
[13:55] <geomi> hi all, trying beta1. have some issues with installing on iSCSI; but my question is: the installer BusyBox shell doesnt have sftp; is there any way i can transfer a file to another pc on the network?
[13:55] <kassah> yofel, ah
[13:56] <fabio333> i have now gnome alsa mixer but i would like to have the aplet on the panel..
[13:56] <yofel> fabio333: you can certainly use alsa directly, but gnome uses pulseaudio for audio control, if you remove it you can't control sound from gnome anymore
[13:56] <L0NELY-TR0LL> Noone say me  "Hello"? :'(
[13:57] <geomi> Hello
[13:57] <yofel> ok yeah, gnome alsa mixer still exists, but I don't know if that supplies an applet
[13:57] <L0NELY-TR0LL> geomi Hi :-D
[13:57] <fabio333> no applet
[13:57] <fabio333> but it works...
[13:57] <L0NELY-TR0LL> fabio333 Arre you from Italia?
[13:58] <L0NELY-TR0LL>  Dr_Willis Hello, Bruce!
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[13:58] <kklimonda> L0NELY-TR0LL: you again?
[13:58] <L0NELY-TR0LL> kklimonda What? O-o
[13:59] <L0NELY-TR0LL> kklimonda Are you from France?
[13:59] <kklimonda> !offtopic | L0NELY-TR0LL
[13:59] <L0NELY-TR0LL> !offtopic | kklimonda
[13:59] <fabio333> i'm not sure this is the right place but gnome 2.30 == gnome 3?
[13:59] <L0NELY-TR0LL> ops! | kklimonda
[13:59] <kklimonda> fabio333: no
[13:59] <L0NELY-TR0LL> hm...
[14:00] <L0NELY-TR0LL> oups! | kklimonda
[14:00] <L0NELY-TR0LL> hmm...
[14:00] <L0NELY-TR0LL> ???
[14:00] <L0NELY-TR0LL> I don't remember
[14:00] <L0NELY-TR0LL> the command oups
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> Gnome 3 isent even really more then just ideas joted down on paper i think
[14:01] <yofel> L0NELY-TR0LL: just go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat please...
[14:01] <fabio333> the button for address editing in nautilus has disappeared
[14:01] <fabio333> ctrl + l but no way back?
[14:01] <kklimonda> fabio333: you can use either ctrl+l or / but no way to get it back
[14:02] <bbordwell> yofel, There is no application installed for PGP/MIME-encrypted message header files
[14:02] <fabio333> this is the way it meant to be?
[14:02] <kklimonda> fabio333: yes
[14:02] <bbordwell> I can not open my signed code of conduct, ideas?
[14:03] <yofel> bbordwell: I'm not sure, I did that ages ago, iirc I used enigmail for thunderbird to send it, but that doesn't work now, let me check what the process says again
[14:03] <bbordwell> yofel, on launchpad it tells me to open the file and copy and paste its contents
[14:04] <bbordwell> i was able to read my encrypted email using evolution
[14:05] <bbordwell> yofel, hmm i was able to open it using open with other application and then choosing gedit
[14:05] <yofel> oh yes, that would work
[14:10] <fabio333> global menu would be great on gnome (i mean the on working with every application)
[14:10] <[diablo]> afternoon all
[14:10] <[diablo]> anyone know if I can upgrade 9.10 to 10.04 beta1 via command line please?
[14:10] <lemsx1> hello all... i got my OQO to run Lucid and it's wonderful
[14:10] <[diablo]> prefer not to have gnome and X running
[14:10] <kklimonda> [diablo]: you can - do sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[14:11] <lemsx1> now I need to know why the sata_nv driver is not included in the Ubuntu Installer. the same thing happened with Karmic
[14:11] <charlie-tca> Could a Ubuntu user check a gedit bug for me? Just open gedit, indent the line, hit enter twice, and see if both empty lines remain indented.
[14:11] <[diablo]> perfect, thank you kklimonda
[14:11] <[diablo]> bbiab
[14:11] <lemsx1> I had to get the driver from a system already running ubuntu, copied to a USB disk, then load... this is annoying
[14:12] <lemsx1> I'm doing that same process right now to see if I can get Lucid installed on a Sun server (x86)
[14:13] <kklimonda> lemsx1: no idea why - it is present in the -17 kernel but not in -16
[14:13] <kklimonda> lemsx1: in -16 it is compiled in
[14:15] <lemsx1> kklimonda: i'm using the installer from today, -17
[14:15] <lemsx1> kklimonda: so it should be compiled in ??
[14:16] <kklimonda> lemsx1: in -17 it is compiled as a module
[14:16] <lemsx1> $> cat config-2.6.32-17-generic |grep -i sata|grep -i nv
[14:16] <lemsx1> CONFIG_SATA_NV=m
[14:16] <lemsx1> kklimonda: i see... but the installer is missing this module then. bummer
[14:18] <lemsx1> kklimonda: got the driver from my system. copied to USB disk. let's see...
[14:18] <kklimonda> it shouldn't be missing even from alternative and server insallers
[14:18] <kklimonda> !dailt
[14:18] <kklimonda> !daily
[14:20] <BUGabundo_remote> jpds: around?
[14:21] <lemsx1> it worked perfectly!
[14:21] <BUGabundo_remote> hello filipec
[14:21] <lemsx1> kklimonda: then this should be reported as a bug?
[14:21] <filipec> hello
[14:21] <jpds> BUGabundo_remote: Busy, sorry.
[14:22] <lemsx1> kklimonda: i'm using netboot.tar.gz from the daily lucid repo (2.6.32-17 kernel)
[14:22] <kklimonda> lemsx1: probably. what install image are you testing? alternative? live?
[14:22] <kklimonda> ah, i see
[14:22] <lemsx1> kklimonda: pxe booting here
[14:22] <kklimonda> lemsx1: you should report it
[14:22] <BUGabundo_remote> jpds: when you can, filipec wants to talk to.... mirror stuff
[14:22] <kklimonda> right
[14:22] <lemsx1> kklimonda: ok. will do
[14:24] <kklimonda> lemsx1: do you have any modules in /lib/modules/2.6.32-17/kernel/drivers/ata at all?
[14:24] <kklimonda> i wonder if the pxe image isn't supposed to download all modules that are not needed for boot from some other location. haven't done it in a while and my pxe server still serves 9.10
[14:25] <jpds> filipec: Hi.
[14:25] <filipec> jpds: hello
[14:26] <lemsx1> kklimonda: in the installer? let me check
[14:27] <lemsx1> kklimonda: already reported the bug by the way ( /lucid/+bugs )
[14:28] <kklimonda> hey BUGabundo_remote btw
[14:28] <lemsx1> kklimonda: there are a few drivers there, pata_* and some sata_mv and sata_via
[14:28] <BUGabundo_remote> olá kklimonda
[14:42] <markl_> is anyone here able to use ubuntu lucid to talk to an iPhone without jailbreaking it?
[14:42] <markl_> rhythmbox seems to _almost_ work for me
[14:42] <h00k> use Ubuntu to talk on the phone?
[14:43] <markl_> to load music without iTunes
[14:45] <h00k> Oh, Oh.Gotcha. I tried an iPod Touch and the music transferred it and could play from Rhythmbox, they just didn't show up in the native music player
[14:46] <infecto> i have strange problem
[14:46] <infecto> shortcut stop work under kde alt+f1 and fn^suspend
[14:46] <infecto> did i messed up or no? :)
[14:46] <h00k> markl_: http://libimobiledevice.org/
[14:47] <bbordwell> infecto, system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[14:48] <Aidar-Nagato> i installed linux kernel 2.6.34 but update manager offers me to install older version (2.6.32). how to make update-manager not to search for this versions?
[14:49] <jan_> wow. had lucid beta1 live running for about  hours while making a backup of my karmic installation, then whiped the hd, did a fresh lucid install and now after the reboot and installing updates, gnome-settings-daemon already crashed on me three times and I also had crashes of gwibber-service and desktopcouch :)
[14:50] <jan_> it's like the lynx is trying to officially welcome me to beta-land ;)
[14:50] <bbordwell> Aidar-Nagato, System->Administration->Synaptic->
[14:50] <bbordwell> Select the packages you don't want to update
[14:50] <bbordwell> From packages menu -> select "Lock Version"
[14:50] <h00k> well, it is a beta
[14:52] <Aidar-Nagato> bbordwell will update-manager check for 2.6.34 versions?
[14:53] <jan_> Aidar-Nagato: since 2.26.34 will never be in lucid, you needn't worry about that for a while :)
[14:53] <bbordwell> Aidar-Nagato, if you lock the version in synaptic it should not check for it. try it and see
[14:54] <bbordwell> Aidar-Nagato, I just tested it and it works for sure
[14:55] <Aidar-Nagato> yes, thanks)
[14:56] <markl_> h00k: yeah if you do usb storage it works great on your computer, but at this point it should integrate with the iPhone music player out of the box
[14:57] <markl_> lucid has the latest libgpod which apparently can do it
[14:57] <bullgard> My Lucid computer after idling 10 minutens falls back to "Screen blank mode", even if line-operated. To resume I have to enter my password. This was not the case in Karmic. Is this a Lucid bug or a Lucid feature?
[14:57] <h00k> markl_: perhaps ask that mailing list or submit a bug
[14:58] <markl_> libimobiledevice looks interesting!
[15:00] <robin0800> bullgard: chanch it in screensavers its a checkbox
[15:01] <robin0800> bullgard: the time is a powermanagement time
[15:01] <elena12> In Ubuntu 10.04 Beta Netbook Edition, I can't unlock the gnome panel, the options are greyed out. What can I do to edit the gnome panel?? http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/681/panellocked.jpg
[15:03] <salty-horse> hi. anyone having trouble running the "mktime" autoconf test on lucid? for example, try "apt-get source gawk; cd gawk-3.1.6.dfsg; ./configure"
[15:05] <infecto> hmm
[15:05] <infecto> bbordwell: didnt
[15:05] <infecto> ups
[15:05] <infecto> ping out
[15:05] <infecto> anyway dont find any shortcut there
[15:06] <JoshuaL> in ubuntu 9.10 i was able to click buttons trough the notifies from notify-osd, now i cant seem to click the buttons behind those notifies
[15:09] <tgpraveen12> JoshuaL: temporary bug
[15:10] <JoshuaL> ok, good to hear its not a feature ;)
[15:12] <salty-horse> can anyone confirm this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autoconf/+bug/546966
[15:15]  * kyubutsu beta1 install fails. corrupted file while on 'installing base system' phase
[15:16] <magn3ts> How can I get a copy of the new font used to render https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=blackeubuntulogo.png
[15:17] <h00k> magn3ts: it isn't finished yet
[15:17] <magn3ts> h00k, :( for shame. I found some ones really close based on the logo on whatdafont but they werent *quite* as nice.
[15:17] <BUGabundo_remote> kyubutsu: checked MD5 ?
[15:18] <magn3ts> I look forward to it being finished :)
[15:18] <kyubutsu> thats what i should have done.. but i rolled the dice and got beat by the house
[15:20] <espen77> so i've installed lucid on a SSD, worked grate for a while, but now i am starting to get a lot of faults with fsck run at startup. Are there anything special i should have done during install for SSD?
[15:21]  * kyubutsu wants the five cents for the blank cd-r back
[15:21] <JoshuaL> also another problem i have, my laptop does not want to sleep
[15:21] <JoshuaL> how can i report such bug?
[15:22] <jasonk> hey all, installed beta 1 on a dual boot system, everything standard, on reboot, got a grub error 15, any ideas? this happened with 9.10 as well, 9.04 worked like a charm
[15:22] <kyubutsu> thats what they call it in lucid now? sleep mode?
[15:23] <JoshuaL> kyubutsu, sleep
[15:23] <espen77> kyubutsu: just sleep in the menu
[15:23] <kyubutsu> i like 'suspend' better .. meh
[15:24] <kyubutsu> certainly more accurate
[15:24] <espen77> kyubutsu: problem with suspend and encrypted root
[15:25] <JohnFlux__> I have a kbluetooth icon now in lucid, with everything grayed out
[15:25] <espen77> kyubutsu: i mean suspend to hdd, guess you ment suspend to ram
[15:25] <JohnFlux__> kinda pointless - shouldn't it simply not load if there's no bluetooth support
[15:25] <kyubutsu> yes
[15:25] <KB1JWQ> jasonk: http://stringofthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/grub-error-15-debianubuntu/\
[15:25] <kyubutsu> espen77: ^^
[15:27] <kyubutsu> but suspend to disk is hybernate .. they change the name of that one too?
[15:27]  * kyubutsu chuckles
[15:27] <jasonk> KB1JWQ: there is no menu.lst,
[15:28] <espen77> kyubutsu: dont have that option, but i am on a half crashed lappy stuck on a train for a few hours so i tapp the keyboard very gently right now :P
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> Ive never understood all the changeing names to 'sudpend/hibernate/sleep'
[15:29] <espen77> it might have been called hibernate when i tested it a while ago
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> didnt it used to be 'suspend to disk' and 'sudpend to ram' or somthing ages ago.
[15:30] <h00k> It was changed but I think they're changing it back so they don't break translations
[15:30] <kyubutsu> it still is in karmic
[15:30] <h00k> as far as "Shutdown" and "Shut Off"
[15:30] <espen77> Dr_Willis: that was ok for brown collor, but purple now :P
[15:31] <om26er> any body got an unbootable system after update?
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> om26er:  unbootable? Hmm.. not yet.. :)
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> let me try to boot the netbook
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> doh dead batteryt.. :)
[15:31] <espen77> om26er: where does your box hang in the boot process?
[15:31] <om26er> espen77, no
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> it dident hibernate OR suspend when the battery died
[15:32] <om26er> nothing after plymouth
[15:32] <om26er> plymouth animation never stops
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> netbook booted.
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> I dont even think i have plymouth installed on it.
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> was causing too many issues for a 'useless' feature
[15:33] <espen77> no killing it either? booting with the previous kernel has same ressults?
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> or it boots so fast i dont even see plymouth
[15:33] <om26er> espen77, yes tried the previous kernel too
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> nice how the battery applet no longer tells you the time/info on mouse over.
[15:34] <om26er> espen77, it either gdm or gnome-session as those two came in the latest update
[15:34] <espen77> om26er: <ctrl><alt><f1> give you vt login?
[15:34] <om26er> Dr_Willis, will you do a apt-cache policy gdm and same for gnome-session
[15:35] <om26er> espen77, no ttys
[15:35] <om26er> espen77, just a blinking insertion point
[15:35] <espen77> om26er: no text at all in tty1?
[15:35] <om26er> not at all
[15:36] <espen77> om26er: systeq I dont do anything either?
[15:36] <espen77> s/systeq/sysreq
[15:36] <Aidar-Nagato> has anybody radeon hd 5000 series? is it working or still not?
[15:36] <om26er> espen77, a text comes in that case
[15:37] <espen77> om26er: <ctrl><alt><sysrq><i>
[15:37] <espen77> om26er: i think
[15:37] <om26er> espen77, I have to reboot, coming back with the result
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> Installed: 2.29.92-0ubuntu5
[15:40] <Dr_Willis>   Candidate: 2.29.92-0ubuntu5
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> but i last updated.. like last night on this box
[15:41] <espen77> Dr_Willis: running karmic?
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> on the netbook yes.. one box is ubuntu - updated...
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> actually wait.. all 3 are now 10.04 now
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> I think. :)
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> it gets to be an annoyance updateing 3 machines every day :)
[15:44] <espen77> Dr_Willis: bet you love ubuntu one with 3 boxes
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> i rarely even do ubuntuone
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> Setting up gdm (2.29.92-0ubuntu6) ...
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> there we go . all updated...
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> rebooting.. lets see if i have the same issue
[16:03] <gorgonzola> hello peoples! just did a clean install after the upgrader borked my system... but now i find that mysql is not installable in amd64. any idea why, or where should i fill the bug report?
[16:04] <Dimmuxx> hmmm still no firefox 3.6.2
[16:05] <ZykoticK9> gorgonzola, is it mysql-server-5.0 that you tried to install?  I'm on amd64 and willing to try installing the same version you did (so long as it's from the repo).
[16:05] <gorgonzola> ZykotiK9: i tried mysql-server, mysql-server-5.1 and mysql-server-5.0
[16:05] <gorgonzola> ZykotiK9: they all complain that the versions of dependencies do not match. its a mess.
[16:06] <ZykoticK9> gorgonizer, yup - E: Broken packages -- for mysql-server
[16:06] <ZykoticK9> gorgonizer, all versions broken here as well
[16:07] <gorgonzola> yes, and you'll get related issues for all versions. it all stems from the fact that we have two different versions for i386 and amd64.
[16:07] <gorgonzola> oh, and gorgonizer is someone else :S
[16:07] <gorgonzola> :P
[16:07] <ZykoticK9> oops
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> well syustem booted after todays Update. but Nvidia system always says its in low-res mode.. and fix the video dialogs come up. I tell it to exit to console and X then comes up. I dont even have to startx or restart gdm..
[16:08] <gorgonzola> npo. soooo, should i file against the meta-package or all of them?
[16:08] <ZykoticK9> gorgonzola, i'd file against mysql-server - but i'm only guessing
[16:09] <ZykoticK9> gorgonzola, are you going to file right now?
[16:10] <gorgonzola> unless i find a related one, yes,
[16:10] <gorgonzola> why?
[16:10] <ZykoticK9> gorgonzola, send me the bug number after
[16:10] <gorgonzola> kk
[16:13] <benkong2> hey all
[16:14] <benkong2> I continue to be plagued by the could not change monitor configuration crc 64 and other issues
[16:15] <benkong2> if i add i915.modeset=0 to boot I can login and all works except there no ttys
[16:15] <benkong2> just flickering
[16:15] <benkong2> if I do not add the i915 the consoles work but login screen flickers
[16:16] <benkong2> I am on a laptop 1366x768
[16:17] <benkong2> what info can I supply that would help
[16:17] <benkong2> this is an intel Mobile graphics card
[16:18] <benkong2> sh: inxi: not found
[16:22] <gorgonzola> ZykoticK9: someone beatme to it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.1/+bug/546691
[16:22] <ZykoticK9> gorgonzola, well thanks for the link - off to "me to" on it :)
[16:23] <benkong2> Resuming in non X mode: glxinfo not found in path
[16:23] <benkong2> Info:      Processes 162 Uptime 15 min Memory 708.4/3868.5MB Runlevel 2 Client X-Chat 2.8.6 inxi 1.4.8
[16:23] <plauclair> I'm new to Ubuntu I'd like to know how do I pass from a previous 10.4 snapshot release to beta 1, can I just use the update tool ?
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> plauclair:  yes..
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> plauclair:  thats a common faq :) and a MAIN feature of the package manager system.. its easy to 'upgrade' to the next releases
[16:24] <benkong2> Resuming in non X mode: glxinfo not found in path
[16:24] <benkong2> Graphics:  Card Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller tty res: N/A
[16:24] <benkong2> Resuming in non X mode: glxinfo not found in path
[16:24] <benkong2> System:    Host prolinux Kernel 2.6.32-17-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Distro Ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[16:24] <plauclair> Dr_Willis: ok thanks ! I'm kinda used to how OpenSuse does it
[16:24] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: ok decided to straight install lucid 64 bit, it has to be clean install, so, should i backup my files? and how ?
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> rabbit1:   should you? well if you want to keep them yes...
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> rabbit1:  i always copy mine to a USB hard drive..
[16:27] <TecnoBrat> Is there a way to view all of the new packages + change notes for lucid .. like some sort of a running page of changes?
[16:27] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: ok, one thing, i had lot of problems setting the resolution before with hardy, changed few xorg.conf file. don't remember how to do it again, hope lucid won't ask me to do all that again
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> Ive not had to do much to configure X in years.
[16:28] <TecnoBrat> nvidia-settings does all of the work for me
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> install proper drivers.. perhaps run the nvidia-settings tool.. restart X.. done
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> they did tweak nvidia-settings a little bit i saw.
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> it now seems to run wth the proper root permissions
[16:29] <TecnoBrat> they did yea
[16:29] <TecnoBrat> that it does .. was happy to see that
[16:29] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: depends on processors rite? i got AMD
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> and i dont think it went berzerk when there was no xorg.conf this time either
[16:29] <KB1JWQ> Holy... I just spent some time researching how to get tweetdeck installed.
[16:29] <rabbit1> ---> athlon x2 64 bit with nvidia inbuilt
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> rabbit1:  what depends on the processor?  the VIDEO card.. yes. perhaps..
[16:29] <KB1JWQ> Come to find out gwibber wipes the floor with it, and it comes installed by default.  *headdesk*
[16:30] <BluesKaj> rabbit1, the kernel source driver will determine your resolution , run sudo nvidia-xconfig if you are happy with the existing driver
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> I saw a 'Twitter bird' teeshirt the other day. it was a Bird  with a Tweet saying 'No One cares what you are saying' :)
[16:30] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: so had to tweak a bit, spent lot of time
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> rabbit1:  depends on your video card.
[16:30] <KB1JWQ> Dr_Willis: Absolutely agree.  But it's one of the more effective ways for me to follow Ubuntu security releases and such. :-)
[16:31] <KB1JWQ> Dr_Willis: Unless you've got an rss reader for GNOME that you'd recommend?
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> KB1JWQ:  ive been using 'feedly' extension for firefox these days
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> I perfer it to stand alone rss reader apps.
[16:31] <rabbit1> BluesKaj: Dr_Willis: ok will do it once i get lucid end of april, any link for all the installation process and nvidia installation processय़
[16:31] <KB1JWQ> Dr_Willis: I ca't get behind Firefox RSS extensions; my browser is cluttered enough.
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> rabbit1:  install.  it sees/mentions the nvidia restrited drivers.. a few clicks..  reboot.. done
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> feedly i think is more of a web site then extension. I think the extension just adds a few little features
[16:32] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: hope u taking after lucid installation ? that's cool then. thanks a lot
[16:32] <KB1JWQ> Hmm.
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> rabbit1:  its basivally been that way for the last few releases
[16:32] <BluesKaj> rabbit1, if you wait for the stable release , then your nvidia kernel source driver should work fine
[16:33] <KB1JWQ> Dr_Willis: Thanks.  Feedly looks like it's worth pursuing.
[16:33] <rabbit1> BluesKaj: it was not a case with 8.04, i couldn't even get 1024 by default
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> on this nvidia box . X is constantaly starting saying its 'in low res mode - do you want to fix....'  even tho if i just exit the dialog.. it does auto-fix it. or starts up fine.
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> KB1JWQ:  yea. its handy.  It even has extension for chrome i think
[16:34] <BluesKaj> rabbit1, 8.04 didn't use kernel source , lucid does
[16:35] <rabbit1> BluesKaj: that's important info, thanks a lot..... :) lucid rules then
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> I find that often it depends on the nvidia chipset in use..  that limits what res i can get by 'default' and other things. :)
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> but oncei get the nvidia drivers instaled.. they all work for me (so far) :)
[16:37] <devurandom> Hi!
[16:37] <devurandom> What is the recommended way of disabling a service in Ubuntu 10.04?
[16:37] <BluesKaj> rabbit1, if by any chance you still have probs , there are other install procedures that can correct them
[16:38] <devurandom> I tried update-rc.d -f ... remove, as worked in Debian before. That claimed it succeeded, but didn't have any effect at all.
[16:38] <TecnoBrat> devurandom: looks like most things use "upstart"
[16:38] <bipolar> Is anyone using puppet on lucid? I'm getting some strange errors I don't get on Debian.
[16:38] <devurandom> Then I tried insserv -r ..., but that didn't do anything either, except spitting out a bazillion of errors.
[16:39] <devurandom> TecnoBrat: But how to tell "upstart" not to start a service...?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> devurandom, just update-rc.d
[16:39] <devurandom> BluesKaj: I can assure you: That does nothing of this sort.
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> err.. does Upstart USE 'update-rc.d' ? i thought that was for the sysv init scripts
[16:40] <devurandom> update-rc.d -f ... remove and the service was still starting.
[16:40] <Dr_Willis> devurandom:  for upstart you can edit the /etc/init/XXX file and change its name to servicewhatever.DONTRUN   i recall reading
[16:40] <devurandom> I now modifed the script itself in /etc/init/, commenting out the "start on" line, but that sux majorly...
[16:40] <rabbit1> BluesKaj: i have no probs now, i managed to edit xorg.conf and fine 1024 resolution atleast
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> devurandom:  I move the whatever.conf file to /etc/init/DISABLED/ directory i made..
[16:41] <devurandom> Dr_Willis: Like "mv /etc/init/network-manager.conf /etc/init/network-manager.conf.DISABLED"?
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> devurandom:  that should also work
[16:41] <devurandom> Aha, ok,
[16:41] <BluesKaj> devurandom, open /etc/int.d/ and remove the bash file
[16:41] <rabbit1> BluesKaj: its so tough if i won't get this 1024 resolution, as it eats my screen, all apps go out of monitor screens, :( horrible
[16:41] <devurandom> BluesKaj: Which file?
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> devurandom:  i find the 'DISABLED' directory an easer way to do it then renaming :)
[16:41] <BluesKaj> rabbit1, what nvidia card ?
[16:42] <rabbit1> BluesKaj: can u kindly let me know the command, is it xrand ?
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> devurandom:  you may need to watchout that any updates dont reinstall the file.
[16:42] <devurandom> Ok, that sux even more than editing the file by hand...
[16:43] <rabbit1> BluesKaj: now its fine, i managed to solve it. but was asking about lucid
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> Moveing it to some dir sux? :) i found it rather easy to do
[16:43] <BluesKaj> devurandom, the script you want to stop
[16:43] <devurandom> I assume anyone has ever thought that someone might want to disable a service easily, before they deployed that "upstart"?
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> devurandom:  its been discussed and rediscussed as to the 'proper' way to handle it in the updatart docs/forums from what ive seen..
[16:43] <devurandom> Dr_Willis: Taking care that Ubuntu does not reinstall the file sux.
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> but its not been given a definitive way.. because some disrtos may want to do it some way.. and others may want some other way
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> devurandom:  yep.   But ive rarely seen the upstart scripts change.
[16:44] <devurandom> mv ing the file around is acceptable, but still less convenient than update-rc.d -f ... remove.
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> at least the ones ive disabled have not came back.. so far
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> i imagine in a few more releases the update-rc.d -f will be totally gond.
[16:44] <devurandom> *sigh* ok...
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> IF the srevice is still using the sysv scripts then you can use update-rc.d
[16:45] <devurandom> Dr_Willis: And then there will be a working new tool? ;)
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> sudo mc , move the stuff to the other dir. :)
[16:45] <devurandom> Dr_Willis: It seems network-manager is using both. init and init.d
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> I dont see anything related to network manager in /etc/rc2.d here
[16:46]  * Dr_Willis looks again
[16:46] <devurandom> But /etc/init.d contains a network-manager startup script.
[16:46] <kklimonda> only a stub for compatibility
[16:46] <Haffe> I need some help. I installed Lucid Lynx, and it seems to have broken my grub. I get grub_insert_here when I boot.
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> init.d is not the same as /etc/rc2.d :)
[16:46] <devurandom> Ah:  /etc/init.d/network-manager -> /lib/init/upstart-job
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> :)
[16:46] <Haffe> I have currentley booted of an old install cd and chosen to drop to a shell.
[16:47] <Dr_Willis> most of the things are that way i imagine.. upstart has been gettingused and people dont realize it
[16:47] <Haffe> Where is the menu.lst or similiar that I need to edit?
[16:47] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | Haffe
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> Haffe:  a new clean install will use Grub2  /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/XXXXX stff then rerun sudo update-grub
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. most of the scripts in init.d seem to be usint /lib/init/upstart-job
[16:48] <devurandom> Dr_Willis: wicd doesnt ;)
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> well i found wicd... annoying. :)
[16:49] <meanburrito920_> if I did a in place upgrade to lucid beta1, does that include the nouveau nvidia drivers?
[16:49] <devurandom> Dr_Willis: I find wicd-curses very nice.
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> well i found that lubuntu-desktop installed wicd and removed network-manager annoying
[16:49] <Ian_Corne> empathy defintly needs more preferences options
[16:49] <devurandom> And I have to use that for this network, since network-manager apparently has no way for me to tell wpa_supplicant to use fast_reauth=0.
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> meanburrito920_:  upgrades should upgrade everything normally
[16:50] <devurandom> Dr_Willis: So without wicd I will regularly get kicked out of the net with only a cumbersome way back. ;)
[16:50] <meanburrito920_> Dr_Willis: right, but if I look at my listings for drivers it still lists the nvidia 176 or whatever version
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> wow. Copying a 4gb file to a flash drive.. and it keeps going slower and slower and slower.. down to 911KB/Sec now...
[16:51] <devurandom> wicd has /etc/wicd/encryption/templates/ where I can give extra config options to wpa_supplicant. network-manager allows now such thing.
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> meanburrito920_:   it makes sence if you have the prop. drivers installed that it would use them
[16:51] <meanburrito920_> whats the flash drive's file system?
[16:51] <meanburrito920_> Dr_Willis: but if i want to try out nouveau?
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> meanburrito920_:  then uninstall the other drivers i guess.
[16:51] <meanburrito920_> :(
[16:51] <devurandom> Anyway, thanks for the "mv" tip. Gtg again.
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> meanburrito920_:  ecit your xorg.conf :)
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> if it exists
[16:52] <jeiworth> Dr_Willis: i have thesame problem, iirc i read about this bug in the net, i think its a problem in the usb-driver in the kernel
[16:52] <meanburrito920_> it does, but i thought that ubuntu was moving away from using xorg.conf?
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> jeiworth:  yea. im not seeing any messages in dmesg.. so not sure what to do with it.
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> meanburrito920_:  depends..
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> meanburrito920_:  X is moveing away from using xorg.conf
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> its not a ;ubuntu thing'
[16:53] <Ian_Corne> "moving"
[16:53] <Ian_Corne> has moved? :p
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> My nvidia machines all have a xorg.conf
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> my intel video machines dont
[16:54] <Ian_Corne> mine doesn't
[16:54] <Ian_Corne> Using nouveau
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> I use twinview - so that is a setting in the xorg.conf
[16:54] <Ian_Corne> with twinview
[16:54] <jeiworth> Dr_Willis: i tried it with ntfs and ext3 but the same, so i don't think the fs is the problem, and it seems to just affect single large files, if i copy the same ammount of data in smaller files the problem does not occur
[16:54] <Ian_Corne> It's on a per user basis
[16:54] <Ian_Corne> with the display preferences tool thingy
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> jeiworth:  yep. moving a 4gb file. and its saying 50+ min
[16:57] <Dr_Willis> Twinview is handled by the nvidia-settings tool  every time ive had to use it. The normal settings tool dosent do it. unless thats changed also
[16:57] <om26er> well, my fstab had a problem
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> system -> perferances -> monitor tells me to use nvidia-settings :)
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> om26er:  you broke it. :)
[16:58] <om26er> Dr_Willis, yep
[16:58] <om26er> I also reported a bug, will close it now
[16:58] <TecnoBrat> anyone use lirc?
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> night all
[17:02] <vivid> so the 'light-themes' update, did it change the location of window buttons to the right?
[17:03] <vivid> i had manually changed it so i cant really tell other than several of the images are a little fubar now
[17:06] <h00k> I like Lucid's updated progress bar
[17:07] <vivid> h00k, was anything changed with the buttons?
[17:08] <h00k> vivid: since the last update as far as positions? no
[17:08] <h00k> vivid: he's the latest changelog: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/0.1.5.9/+changelog
[17:09] <vivid> yea i browsed through it, but was curious because some of the images didnt get changed, and some got overwritten
[17:10] <vivid> Some_Person, wheres your new package :p
[17:10] <ZykoticK9> vivid, i think you need to accept that the button are on the left to stay
[17:11] <vivid> well, this being free as in freedom software, i would fully disagree
[17:12] <ZykoticK9> vivid, i move the buttons back to the right as well - power of linux, you can customize it.  But the default is going to have them on the left
[17:13] <vivid> i would still say thats silly, the whole mac ui is annoying and emulating it makes no sense, but opinions are like........well you know
[17:15] <meanburrito920_> urg, for some reason my game joystick is also controlling my mouse cursor. why might this be? it worked fine before the project...
[17:15] <ZykoticK9> meanburrito920_, i've had that issue before on Karmic, have you rebooted (does it happen after)?
[17:16] <meanburrito920_> I'll try it in a bit, I'm in the middle of some work right now :(
[17:16] <ZykoticK9> meanburrito920_, i don't (never found) have an actual solution.
[17:16] <Ian_Corne> wow, today is crash day for me
[17:16] <Ian_Corne> everything is crashing, including apport..
[17:16] <Ian_Corne> when I start typing in empathy, it crashes
[17:18] <Ian_Corne> aha, I 've enabled dutch spell check
[17:18] <Ian_Corne> alongside with english
[17:19] <TecnoBrat> Anyone know if there is a page / site that has a rolling list of changes for lucid?
[17:19] <TecnoBrat> Or somewhere to get something similar?
[17:23] <TecnoBrat> ahh I think this is sorta what I'm looking for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue :)
[17:29] <[diablo]> hello all
[17:29] <[diablo]> guys, anyone know a way to get Empathy to prompt me for the password everytime it is started please?
[17:30] <[diablo]> I do not want it storing nothing more than my gmail username
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[17:53] <Haffe> Ok.
[17:54] <Haffe> Guys. I bit the bullet and tried to do a clean install of lucid lynx using the live cd.
[17:54] <Haffe> However, it wont boot.
[17:54] <Haffe> It just gives me the splash screen and nothing more. Is there tweaks that can be done, or some kind of debug windows?
[17:54] <AlfredPennarini> i need help about phonegap for iphone
[17:55] <TecnoBrat> jpds: was that some sort of super kick which made it look like he left on his own? haha
[17:55] <om26er> which file have the UUID of root in grub2??
[17:55] <jpds> TecnoBrat: Just a /remove command.
[17:56] <bullgard> My Lucid computer does not produce messages during boot-up. How can I change this?
[17:56] <James147> Haffe: Did you do a disk check on the cd when you put it in the drive? (There is an option in the menu that appears)
[17:56] <Haffe> James147: Yes.
[17:56] <Haffe> No errors.
[17:57] <Haffe> I am wondering if it's my dual monitor setup that's causing problems.
[17:57] <James147> Haffe: dual monitor on nvidia?
[17:58]  * abhinav recommends http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Mortenson - and his books "Three Cups of Tea" and "Stones into Schools" for a "real" perspective on Pakistan / Afghanistan
[17:58]  * abhinav says sorry - wrong room
[17:58] <om26er> abhinav, woho, this is a support channel
[17:59] <bullgard> Haffe: Analyze /var/log/messages.
[17:59] <abhinav> om26er: apologies, this was for another channel
[17:59] <pepee> hi, I'm having troubles while compiling an app
[17:59] <bullgard> Haffe: Or /var/log syslog rather.
[18:00] <pepee> it says: /usr/include/bits/local_lim.h:39:26: error: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory
[18:00] <pepee> /usr/include/linux/ is empty
[18:00] <Haffe> bullgard: But how do I do that from a frozen live boot session?
[18:00] <pepee> this is after upgrading today...
[18:01] <James147> Haffe: If your useing nvidia then thats probally the problem, the opensouce drivers cannot do dual screen (at least last time i tryed) try unpluging one monitor and booting like that, if you can enable the nvida drivers
[18:01] <vivid> how do i make an upstart service start automatically?
[18:01] <bullgard> Haffe: You asked what to do after "a clean install of lucid lynx using the live cd."
[18:01] <charlie-tca> bullgard: edit /etc/default/grub
[18:01] <pepee> installed packages: linux-headers-2.6.32-17-generic linux-headers-2.6.32-17
[18:01] <bullgard> charlie-tca: Me?
[18:01] <charlie-tca> remove quiet splash
 My Lucid computer does not produce messages during boot-up. How can I change this?
[18:02] <charlie-tca> bullgard: ^^ ^^
[18:03] <pepee> ↑ ← is better
[18:05] <ZykoticK9> bullgard, don't forget to run "sudo update-grub" after remove quiet&splash (like I just did the 1st time round)
[18:05] <charlie-tca> thank you, ZykoticK9
[18:05] <Haffe> James147: Thanks. That seems to help.
[18:05] <Haffe> bullgard: Sorry, I was unclear.
[18:05] <bullgard> charlie-tca: My file /etc/default/grub does not include 'quiet' and does not include 'splash'.
[18:06] <DarsVaeda> hi installation tells me that my installation medium is one /dev/sda5 so i can not change that, which i need
[18:06] <BUGabundo_remote> and I'm out
[18:06] <BUGabundo_remote> bllb
[18:06] <DarsVaeda> how can i change that?
[18:06] <BUGabundo_remote> bbl
[18:06] <charlie-tca> bullgard: this line? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[18:07] <TecnoBrat> I don't even have a /etc/default/grub file :)
[18:07] <ZykoticK9> TecnoBrat, have you upgraded from a version prior to 9.10?
[18:07] <charlie-tca> TecnoBrat: You have /boot/grub/menu.lst instead?
[18:07] <TecnoBrat> charlie-tca: yep
[18:08] <charlie-tca> legacy grub
[18:08] <TecnoBrat> ZykoticK9: I have upgraded from 8.10 => 9.04 => 9.10 => 10.04 on this box
[18:08] <ZykoticK9> TecnoBrat, thus the reason you don't have /etc/default/grub - you're using grub-legacy as charlie-tca pointed out
[18:09] <bullgard> charlie-tca: This line looks with me:  'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="vga=0x0340"'.
[18:10] <charlie-tca> I think that vga= blanks out the text now in lucid with grub2
[18:10] <almoxarife> free more than tfds_in_queue <--- my kern.log is being overrun with that line, what is the simple fix? I am talking about 2 lines per sec
[18:10] <pepee> IIRC vga=* is for old kernels < 2.6.30
[18:10] <charlie-tca> I had to remove that completely here because it stopped by boot completely
[18:10] <DarsVaeda> hi installation tells me that my installation medium is one /dev/sda5 so i can not change that, which i need, how do  i change that?
[18:11] <charlie-tca> DarsVaeda: click on manual install
[18:11] <charlie-tca> manual partition
[18:11] <ZykoticK9> DarsVaeda, i ran into a similar issue - I had to manually delete the partition I wanted to install too, then select "Use largest free space" (or similar) in the partition selection screen
[18:12] <DarsVaeda> i can not delete it...
[18:12] <ZykoticK9> DarsVaeda, then use charlie-tca suggestion and use manual
[18:12] <DarsVaeda> and there is no "manual"
[18:12] <DarsVaeda> ;)
[18:12] <bullgard> charlie-tca: Thank you for commenting.
[18:12] <charlie-tca> no problem
[18:14] <DarsVaeda> i actually don't even get what the message tells me
[18:14] <DarsVaeda> why is my installation medium on dev/sda
[18:14] <DarsVaeda> i thought cd are mounted within media or something
[18:15] <jmcantrell> is there a way to have a user space hosts file?
[18:15] <charlie-tca> DarsVaeda: it isn't seeing the hard drive?
[18:15] <charlie-tca> oops, thinking out loud
[18:15] <DarsVaeda> oh wait does it tell me that the ...how is that named swap space for the live cd is on that partition?
[18:16] <DarsVaeda> and thats why it can't access it? that sounds reasonable
[18:16] <charlie-tca> possible
[18:16] <DarsVaeda> charlie-tca the hard drive is there
[18:16] <DarsVaeda> i just can not use it
[18:16] <charlie-tca> you might have to unmount the partition is all
[18:16] <DarsVaeda> which is ... because thats my root there
[18:17] <pepee> can someone hel me?
[18:17] <pepee> *help
[18:18] <MaximLevitsky-vm> Why gdm theme is white?
[18:18] <DarsVaeda> oh it actually mounted /cdrom to dev/sda5... so i can not umount it
[18:19] <rye> MaximLevitsky-vm, I just come here to ask why my netbook gdm theme is dark :)
[18:19] <MaximLevitsky-vm> rye: 10.4?
[18:19] <rye> MaximLevitsky-vm, yup
[18:20] <MaximLevitsky-vm> Now why its not possible to set it, or make it something neutral?
[18:20] <DarsVaeda> is there a bootup option to tell the live cd where to mount to?
[18:26] <Ichat> hi - im since yesterday trying to runn  lucid server.    the problem i seem to have is with transmission-daemon  -   when i update   /etc/transmission-daemon/settings.json   nothing happens.    and   t...daemon -f   tells me that its config file may be in  /home/[user]/.config/     - my question   how can i change my system so that   the deamon reads 'the right'   config file
[18:43] <howlmowly> Hi people. .. i am sitting in Front of a black screen now after upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04. Any ideas?
[18:44] <howlmowly> I did Not eben See grub or anything its just plain black
[18:44] <coz_> howlmowly, nvidia maybe?
[18:45] <howlmowly> Nope, Intel 965gm
[18:45] <coz_> mm
[18:46] <howlmowly> The live disk works just fine, btw. I am now here using my phone. ..
[18:48] <howlmowly> What would be the easiest way to repair it, using the live cd?
[18:48] <pepee> howlmowly, no errors from grub?
[18:48] <howlmowly> Nope,  maybe in some file?
[18:48] <pepee> not even the OS's list
[18:48] <pepee> ?
[18:49] <howlmowly> Nope, nothing
[18:49] <pepee> try reinstalling grub
[18:49] <ZykoticK9> howlmowly, you can try holding down shift, which should bring up grub menu - then try selected the "recovery mode" (or similar wording)
[18:51] <howlmowly> ZykoticK9: thx..  Ar least i know that grub works, now...
[18:53] <ptb> It seems like terminal is using UTF-8 no mather if I set ISO-8859-1 , any workarounds on this one?
[18:53] <ptb> Lucid
[18:54] <howlmowly> Alright. Choosing recovery Mode from grub doesnt work either
[18:55] <howlmowly> Italien Hangs After that with a black screen
[18:55] <howlmowly> *it
[18:56] <howlmowly> Sorry for my spelling autocorrection. ..
[18:57] <howlmowly> Pepee looks like grub Works...
[19:00] <howlmowly> *pepee
[19:00] <pepee> can you see the grub screen?
[19:01] <howlmowly> Yepp android choose Thema different kernels
[19:01] <howlmowly> *and choose Thema different kernels
[19:01] <pepee> ok
[19:01] <howlmowly> *the
[19:02] <pepee> no errors after booting linux?
[19:02] <pepee> just black screen?
[19:02] <howlmowly> Exactly
[19:05] <Ichat> can anyone help me find the ??? boot up ??   script for transmission-daemon
[19:06] <Ichat> and the way how i can :    >1  change the location where it looks for its settings.json file.   and  2>  (iff possible)  how to start it as its own  user
[19:07] <pepee> howlmowly, what are the kernel boot options?
[19:08] <pepee> howlmowly, while in grub, press 'e' to see these options
[19:08] <pepee> btw grub or grub2?
[19:10] <howlmowly>  pepee grub Italien says grub 1.98 in the menu and the options are ro single vga=788
[19:10] <pepee> ok
[19:10] <howlmowly> *it
[19:11] <pepee> just delete all of them
[19:11] <pepee> and boot linux (IIRC, ctrl+x)
[19:12] <howlmowly> yeah works now... lets See, how far it gets. ..
[19:15] <howlmowly> Ok, pepee i can now See,where it hangs. It says: filesystem could not be mounted /dev/Bus/usb.  Usb??
[19:15] <pepee> Ichat, know nothing about transmission-daemon, but you may edit /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon or something like that, and see if it works
[19:17] <howlmowly> Maybe It is a problem that i had a usb Stick plugged in during the upgrade?
[19:18] <komputes> Hi Lucid Testers, has anyone run into Bug #547167
[19:18] <pepee> howlmowly, did you install lucid from an USB drive?
[19:18] <komputes> howlmowly: yeah, recovery mode seems broken
[19:19] <komputes> howlmowly: do you only get a black screen and an underscore in the corner?
[19:20] <pepee> hmm try this: dpkg -P plymouth
[19:20] <howlmowly> komputes Not even an underscore...
[19:20] <pepee> howlmowly, and delete 'vga=...'
[19:21] <komputes> howlmowly: ok, thought we may have had the same bug (I get a black screen with a cursor when running telinit 1 - Bug 545412)
[19:22] <pepee> howlmowly, what does the screen do after ubuntu shows that message?
[19:23] <pepee> there is cursor? login screen? tty?
[19:23] <pepee> try: ctrl+alt+f2
[19:23] <howlmowly> pepee i upgraded from my 9.10 but i had an usb stick plugged in during that time with a live cd Installation
[19:25] <howlmowly> pepee i habe No ttys and ctrl-alt-f* doesnt work either
[19:26] <howlmowly> After that message everything stops. Though the cursor keeps blinking
[19:26] <Ichat> pepee:  -  im looking at it now, but its 'realy' strange (i think)
[19:26] <pepee> well, try again with the usb plugged in...
[19:27] <almoxarife> anyone elses kern.log getting filled with the same msg about tfds_in_queue ?????
[19:27] <howlmowly> but restarting with Ctrl -alt-del works, btw. ..
[19:28] <almoxarife> after upgrade to kernel ...17
[19:30] <pepee> I see a crash in pm-suspend...
[19:30] <ZykoticK9> almoxarife, bug #545585
[19:31] <almoxarife> ZykoticK9: I saw it, and I see there is a patch?
[19:31] <howlmowly> pepee still the same error,when the usb stick ist plugged in
[19:32] <ZykoticK9> almoxarife, that's certainly what the bug suggests (i don't have the issue, so i have no further info sorry)
[19:32] <almoxarife> is patching a kernel straight forward?
[19:33] <ZykoticK9> almoxarife, test kernel available at http://people.canonical.com/~smb/lp545585/
[19:35] <ruelle> i have upgraded to 10.4 and now my system is unusable. as long as i am in single user mode everything is fine. i even can run X and an xterm inside it. but when i switch to multiusermode, the keyboard, mouse and network are disabled. the only thing i can do then is shutting my computer down via acpi.
[19:36] <pepee> howlmowly, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/505808
[19:36] <quentusrex> Alright, I don't know if this is a bug but it has bit me twice in a row
[19:37] <quentusrex> Trying to install Kbuntu and it won't let me login with the user and pass I think I set on install
[19:37] <pepee> howlmowly, nah, is not related...
[19:38] <howlmowly> Yeah i just started wondereing Hehe Peperoni
[19:38] <howlmowly> Lol i mean pepe
[19:39] <pepee> haha
[19:39] <howlmowly> My t9 ob my cellphone ist driving mehr nuts; )
[19:40] <howlmowly> *mehr
[19:40] <pepee> well, sorry, I have no idea what's the problem
[19:40] <howlmowly> Jesus. .. *me
[19:41] <howlmowly> Hmm... do you have a tip ob repairing with the live Verlag, maybe, pepee?
[19:42] <howlmowly> On
[19:42] <pepee> howlmowly, nope
[19:43] <howlmowly> I mean live cd
[19:43] <pepee> as I said, don't know where is the problem
[19:43] <running_rabbit07> Hello, I have a Dell with a Netgear USB NIC. I have tried Lubuntu and Ubuntu Lucid and neither one works with the wireless. Is there a way to fix this without buying a new NIC or running 75 feet of wire?
[19:43] <pepee> is very strange...
[19:44] <howlmowly> I think. I will try reinstalling
[19:45] <C-S-B-N900> running_rabbit07: whats the chip set?
[19:46] <pepee> try dl the latest build
[19:46] <running_rabbit07> Intel
[19:46] <running_rabbit07> P4
[19:48] <howlmowly> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/507881 pepe thats from your link. .. that ist almost exactly my Problem i will report It i succeed
[19:49] <pepee> haha well, good to see you could solve it
[19:52] <howlmowly> I am Not sure, yet pepe still booting into live cd also my error says /dev/usb and not /proc /usb. ..
[19:54] <ruelle> i have upgraded to 10.4 and now my system is unusable. as long as i am in single user mode everything is fine. i even can run X and an xterm inside it. but when i switch to multiusermode, the keyboard, mouse and network are disabled. the only thing i can do then is shutting my computer down via acpi.
[19:59] <charlie-tca> ruelle: what kind of video? VIA KM400 on the Acer Aspire has a bug filed already
[20:00] <ruelle> charlie-tca: i dont think it's a video problem. i tried nvidia and ati.
[20:02] <plauclair> I think openjdk might be broken, some things in Eclipse don't work on it but work on Sun Java
[20:04] <yofel> plauclair: you're not the only one noticing that, please make sure there's a bug filed
[20:05] <plauclair> I've seen a bug report but I'm not sure it's for 10.4, I'm gonna verify
[20:05]  * gnomefreak tries to think what package i filed a java bug on
[20:06] <gnomefreak> but mine was due to another package (java plugin i think) it was days ago
[20:08] <yofel> at least my bug about firefox ignoring sun java is finally getting worked on
[20:09] <BUGabundo> yofel: ???
[20:09] <BUGabundo> my boss got hit byt that one today
[20:09] <BUGabundo> on karmic
[20:09] <BUGabundo> lol
[20:10] <plauclair> is there a way to uninstall openjdk without removing eclipse at the same time ? I just moved from opensuse and I don't really get how to :S
[20:10] <gnomefreak> yofel: is it asac or micah working on it?
[20:10] <yofel> nope, assigned to someone else
[20:10] <red> how can I find out which port is used by IMAP and Usenet news via commandline?
[20:10] <yofel> it's a bug in sun java, not ffx
[20:11] <yofel> more like they changed firefox and now sun java needs to be adjusted
[20:11] <socket_77> red: imap uses 143 and uucp uses 117
[20:12] <red> i know the ports, just need a way to verify :)
[20:12] <gnomefreak> yofel: oh ok. i dont know who our java guy is anymore
[20:12] <socket_77> red: you can do a netstat -ntap to see active ports
[20:12] <red> and more precisely, need to verify that via cli
[20:12] <red> okay
[20:12] <red> testing
[20:13] <red> illegal option -- t
[20:13] <socket_77> er..
[20:13] <gnomefreak> damn he left
[20:13] <socket_77> you are running this on lucid?
[20:13] <Damascene> any one using rtl locale, Arabic Hebrew or Urdu
[20:13] <red> didn't detach all the way x)
[20:13] <quentusrex> Major Bug: Try to install Kbuntu. Update the installer. The updates removes the ability to set your user and password, so on reboot you can't login.
[20:13] <red> my bad
[20:14] <gnomefreak> quentusrex: file a bug on it. it may just be the daily ISO that is messed up
[20:15] <quentusrex> gnomefreak, where should this bug be filed?
[20:15] <gnomefreak> Ubuntu ISo doesnt have that problem ;)
[20:15] <howlymowly> hrhr pepe!!  it works...  now chatting from my laptop again...
[20:15] <gnomefreak> quentusrex: launchpad.net  not sure the package to file it against i would just set it to ubuntu as the package
[20:16] <howlymowly> pepe could you give me the link from earlier onc again? I accidentally deleted it.. this way I could help at launchpad to remove this bug...
[20:17] <gnomefreak> howlymowly: what link?
[20:17] <gnomefreak> well what was it to
[20:18] <howlymowly> to a launchpad bug entry
[20:18] <howlymowly> i posted it like 20min ago...
[20:18] <gnomefreak> howlymowly: a bug or just the general page?
[20:18] <howlymowly> and pepe another one liek 30 min?
[20:18] <howlymowly> to a specific bug
[20:18] <gnomefreak> howlymowly: what was the bug on and about?
[20:19] <howlymowly> its about a blank screen and something with /proc/usb
[20:19] <howlymowly> when starting up ubuntu
[20:19] <gnomefreak> howlymowly: did you file it?
[20:20] <howlymowly> gnomefreak: nope..  but I had the same bug and want to 1. confirm it and 2. my bug had some "variation" to the original bug so I wanted to extend the information in the bug reportcould you search it for me :)?
[20:21] <gnomefreak> yofel: do you know the bug howlymowly is refering to?
[20:21] <yofel> mom, reading backlog
[20:21] <gnomefreak> howlymowly: well i looked for your home page but howlymowly is not known (if you commented on it i can get it from your home page in LP
[20:22] <gnomefreak> sounds almost like a plymouth bug :)
[20:22] <yofel> bug 507881 ?
[20:22] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[20:22] <howlymowly> ahh.. yeah thats the one :) thx
[20:22] <howlymowly> gnomefreak: NOW I can comment on it :)
[20:22] <howlymowly> my name btw. on LP is yeus...  not howlymowly :)
[20:23] <gnomefreak> howlymowly: if you subscribe to it you will get emails when someone comments on it
[20:23] <gnomefreak> that would explain why i didnt find you there ;)
[20:23] <cozziemoto> has anyone installed iagno?  it doesnt animate as it did on previous versions
[20:24] <yofel> cozziemoto: the coin flipping is animated here
[20:24] <howlymowly> :)
[20:24] <ripps> Is it just me, or has Radiance/Ambiance just become broken?
[20:24] <cozziemoto> yofel, mm not here  mabye an uninstall and reinstall will doi t
[20:25] <gnomefreak> you mean it worked at one time?
[20:25] <cozziemoto> ripps,  i thought it was always broken :)
[20:25] <plauclair> ripps, it even breaks Eclipse autocomplete, white text on white background.... !
[20:25]  * gnomefreak not going to say names but i think i know who broke it :X
[20:26] <ripps> the light-themes have always seemed to work okay with me, but the last update, gnome-panel and nautilus fallback to hicolor mode
[20:29] <plauclair> I really hope they're gonna fix the theme before 10.4 comes out cause right now it's really bad :(
[20:30] <cozziemoto> ah darn ..reinstalling iagno did nothing but not a biggie unless I can get the source and compile
[20:38] <cemc> installed lucid server 32bit from the iso, the did an upgrade and grub-pc is crapping out like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/401363/ - any ideas?
[20:38] <cemc> first two lines are because of set -x I put in postinst script
[20:38] <BluesKaj> plauclair, it's eye candy to the devs so it'll probly stay on the back burner until more important problems are looked after
[20:39] <gnomefreak> i had a question for one of the devs with that but im not ready to speak to him yet
[20:39] <plauclair> broken ide because of of theme, to me that's pretty important.. but I'm just gonna use another theme :S
[20:40] <MTecknology> Time to upgrade my dev systems to 10.04
[20:41] <gnomefreak> java IDE would be broken without the theme causing it too :)
[20:41] <plauclair> not to mention the broken window controls, I mean it makes Linux look really cheap
[20:41] <gnomefreak> plauclair: they were goin gto be turned around but staying on left side AFAIR
[20:41] <gnomefreak> that wiki is on my todolist
[20:42] <plauclair> it's not the side that's not working, if you have a window that only has the close window control you get a straight edge
[20:42] <gnomefreak> plauclair: did you file a bug on that? i would like to see that
[20:43] <plauclair> gnomefreak, haven't had time for that yet
[20:43] <cemc> plauclair: on which theme does that occur ?
[20:44] <infecto> mount: warning: /etc/mtab is not writable (e.g. read-only filesystem). It's possible that information reported by mount(8) is not up to date. For actual information about system mount points check the /proc/mounts file.
[20:44] <plauclair> cemc, ambience
[20:44] <infecto> hmmm
[20:44] <infecto> ro system?
[20:45] <cemc> plauclair: hm, I'm not seeing the straight edge
[20:49] <plauclair> cemc, let's say you go to settings>appearance>fonts tab>details button, this dialog shows the problem
[20:50] <cemc> plauclair: hmm, not seeing the difference
[20:50] <MTecknology> Any ideas what would cause this error during upgrade?  http://dpaste.com/176150/
[20:51] <EdwinGrubbs> how do I enable the Me Menu in Lucid?
[20:53] <cemc> plauclair: got it now
[20:55] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: looking at error
[20:55] <MTecknology> gnomefreak: I just found a bug report too
[20:55] <MTecknology> bug 534999
[20:56] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: did you try apt-get update && apt-get -f install   used with sudo ofcourse
[20:57] <Scotie> Hallo,
[20:57] <gnomefreak> plymouth+mount all were fixed with depends issues
[20:57] <Ian_Corne> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/531246
[20:57] <Ian_Corne> no1 has any feedback on this?
[20:57] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: makes me think its trying to configure them out of order
[20:58] <MTecknology> gnomefreak: oh- could make sense
[20:58] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: run the apt-get -f install see if it helps
[20:58] <MTecknology> will do
[20:58] <cemc> plauclair: http://hosting.astral.ro/~gimre/screenshot_002.png - you mean this?
[20:59] <BluesKaj> MTecknology, what command did you use to upgrade ? sudo do-release-upgrade -d ?
[20:59] <plauclair> cemc, yes, exectly
[20:59] <plauclair> *exactly
[20:59] <cemc> gnomefreak: http://hosting.astral.ro/~gimre/screenshot_002.png
[21:00] <gnomefreak> cemc: yeah that should be there :) what is the issue?
[21:00] <BluesKaj> MTecknology, this will add the lucid repository and upgrade your version to lucid: sudo sed -i 's/karmic/lucid/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[21:00] <cemc> gnomefreak: looks brrr? :) I dunno, ask plauclair :)
[21:00] <gnomefreak> other than the image lying to you
[21:01]  * gnomefreak hates when images ly
[21:01] <plauclair> gnomefreak, It breaks the "graphic language"
[21:01] <cemc> why is one side of it straight?
[21:01] <MTecknology> BluesKaj: gnomefreak: Interesting, after just trying to rerun do-release-upgrade it seems to work
[21:01] <plauclair> sorry, I don't know how to explain it other than in graphic design themes :S
[21:01] <gnomefreak> plauclair: i would need steps to reproduce it
[21:01] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: it got ahead of its self
[21:02] <plauclair> open a dialog with only the close control, it's everywhere
[21:02] <gnomefreak> it happens from time to time. you have a bug on it?
[21:02] <MTecknology> gnomefreak: musta, I'll mention that in the bug report
[21:02] <MTecknology> ya
[21:02] <MTecknology> what should I tag it with?
[21:02] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: give me # i think you can get away without tagging it
[21:03] <gnomefreak> plauclair: i cant reproduce that sorry
[21:03] <plauclair> really ?
[21:03] <cemc> gnomefreak: if you just selected that theme, you have to relog I think
[21:03] <plauclair> you get two round edges ?
[21:03] <cemc> plauclair: I got that too at first
[21:03] <gnomefreak> relog? you mean restart X?
[21:03] <MTecknology> bug 534999
[21:03] <MTecknology> gnomefreak: ^
[21:04] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: thanks looking at it
[21:04] <plauclair> cemc, that's strange !
[21:04] <cemc> after I restarted with that theme selected,
[21:04] <cemc> it broke
[21:05] <cemc> if switching from another theme, it's not broken, only after a logout/login (or restart?) it breaks
[21:05] <mha2908_> Hi guys! Here's (hopefully) member:a quickie: Recently installed 10.04 server, and want to run the gnome desktop environment through member:a SSH X Window forwarding session. But how can I install the "ubuntu-desktop"-package without it starting automatically when I boot the pc?
[21:05] <MTecknology> gnomefreak: I need to take care of a virus, i got it in windows, on the vm i use for homework only :P
[21:05] <cemc> lemme doublecheck that
[21:06] <plauclair> cemc, at first I thought it had just been overlooked
[21:07] <ripps> Okay, something must have been upd with my system, because after reboot, the light-themes are working again. Although, it seems that it renders the metacity menu button incorrectly now. It gives it a bad background image.
[21:07] <MTecknology> gnomefreak: interesting... the second time only worked on one of the systems
[21:07] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: i commented on bug for mvo
[21:07] <EdwinGrubbs> How do I enable the Me Menu in Lucid?
[21:07] <gnomefreak> fred_2: its the envolope next to the date/clock
[21:08] <gnomefreak> oops
[21:08] <gnomefreak> EdwinGrubbs: ^^^
[21:08] <gnomefreak> left click it :)
[21:08] <cemc> plauclair: can't reproduce what I said... now it's always like that, straight on the right side
[21:08] <cemc> like on the screnshot
[21:08] <gnomefreak> cemc: you moved them to right side :)
[21:08] <plauclair> yeah.. for me it has always been like that
[21:08] <cemc> what?
[21:09] <cemc> I didn't move anything, that's just how it appears,
[21:09] <MTecknology> gnomefreak: :S - rerun - it's workingon 3/5 systems nwo
[21:09] <cemc> if you notice the close button on the Appearance Preferences windows appears on the left
[21:09] <gnomefreak> cemc: yours appear on the right hand side?
[21:09] <cemc> in the samples appears on the right
[21:09] <cemc> no
[21:09] <EdwinGrubbs> gnomefreak: I don't have an envelope icon. I used to a long time ago (maybe Jaunty), but I removed it.
[21:09] <cemc> on the left
[21:09] <gnomefreak> EdwinGrubbs: than add indicator-me to panel
[21:10] <cemc> only the samples are wrong, on the actual windows the buttons are on the left
[21:10] <gnomefreak> EdwinGrubbs: it would have been added once indicator-me was introduced
[21:10] <gnomefreak> cemc: yeah ok i thought you meant the controls moved to the right by themselves
[21:11] <EdwinGrubbs> thanks
[21:11] <cemc> gnomefreak: the initial issue that plauclair said was the straigth right side of a single 'close' button (which is on the left)
[21:11] <cemc> gnomefreak: this other thing with the buttons on the right, I just noticed
[21:12] <cemc> (this is a Karmic upgrade, not a fresh beta install, so that could've messed up something)
[21:12] <plauclair> what I have is a straight beta install so it has no relevance in that case I'd say
[21:13] <gnomefreak> wonders if i should come up witha  script for moving them around but thats last on my todolist
[21:13] <cemc> gnomefreak: the main issue is the straight right side, that's a bit sucky-looking :)
[21:13] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_dinner: eat well :)
[21:14] <BUGabundo_dinner> I shall
[21:14] <gnomefreak> im not understanding what you mean by straight right side
[21:14] <cemc> gnomefreak: http://hosting.astral.ro/~gimre/screenshot_002.png - look at the close button
[21:14] <cemc> on the left
[21:14] <gnomefreak> hmmm its dinner time here and i know you are not in US
[21:14] <cemc> does that look ok to you?
[21:15] <cemc> why does it have that button background a straight right side
[21:15] <cemc> why isn't it round?
[21:15] <plauclair> to me it just looks wrong too
[21:15] <gnomefreak> the red close button?
[21:15] <plauclair> yes
[21:16] <gnomefreak> its round in the screenshot
[21:16] <cemc> no, not the red one, the other one up there, on the left
[21:16] <plauclair> no, its border
[21:16] <cemc> it's grey because the window is not in focus
[21:16] <gnomefreak> i have screen zoomed way in to make sure but looks round to me
[21:16] <cemc> it's background, not the button itself
[21:16] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[21:16] <cemc> when there are 3 buttons, the background is round
[21:16] <plauclair> there is kind of a depression around the red button
[21:16] <pepee> well, someone forgot to put a couple symlinks...
[21:16] <cemc> :)
[21:17] <MTecknology> gnomefreak: these two systems just don't want to be upgraded.... E: Couldn't configure pre-depend libplymouth2 for mountall, probably a dependency cycle.
[21:17] <MTecknology> that's with aptitude dist-upgrade
[21:17] <pepee> ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-17/include/asm-generic/ /usr/include/asm
[21:17] <pepee> ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-17/include/linux/  /usr/include/
[21:17] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: im not liking that now. run apt-get -f install see what it does. While you are doing that im going to run outside for a couple of minutes
[21:17] <Dimmuxx> gnomefreak: any eta on firefox 3.6.2 yet?
[21:18] <MTecknology> gnomefreak: I gon't need a few minutes :P
[21:18] <BluesKaj> MTecknology, dist-upgrade is depracated
[21:18] <MTecknology> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 293 not upgraded.
[21:18] <MTecknology> BluesKaj: that's what you said to do above
[21:18] <deanus> I always safe-upgrade/full-upgrade
[21:19] <cemc> gnomefreak: http://hosting.astral.ro/~gimre/screenshot_003.png - there
[21:19] <arand> I have a fun one: Bug #547182
[21:19] <gnomefreak> Dimmuxx: i havent ased but as i recall we are still waiting for nss/nspr. join #ubuntu-mozillateam and ask i have other things going on here so i cant ask asac
[21:19] <MTecknology> deanus: that doesn't work either
[21:19] <BluesKaj> not me MTecknology , I told you to sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[21:19] <Dimmuxx> gnomefreak: will do, thanks
[21:20] <yofel> pepee: /usr/include/linux is a standalone folder here, not a symlink
[21:20] <MTecknology> BluesKaj: 16:00 #ubuntu+1: < BluesKaj> MTecknology, this will add the lucid repository and upgrade your version to lucid: sudo sed -i 's/karmic/lucid/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[21:21] <pepee> yofel, was empty when I was trying to compile something
[21:21] <MTecknology> doesn't really matter
[21:21] <pepee> and some headers where including files from that folder
[21:21] <arand> Is there any good way to completely reset&reconfigure plymouth after messing about with video drivers and the having reverted to nouveau?
[21:21] <pepee> specifically "linux/limits.h"
[21:22] <BluesKaj> MTecknology, oops , meant to cut of the last part , sorry
[21:23] <yofel> pepee: dpkg -S says: linux-libc-dev: /usr/include/linux/limits.h
[21:23] <yofel> pepee: did you install linux-libc-dev?
[21:23] <pepee> yep, linux-libc-dev is installed
[21:23] <pepee> gonna try reinstalling it
[21:24] <MTecknology> aptitude install libplymouth2
[21:25] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: using --configure -a should also clear it up
[21:25] <MTecknology> gnomefreak: it didn't :P
[21:25] <gnomefreak> but i havent seen that problem since jaunty dev cycle
[21:26] <gnomefreak> MTecknology: ok update the bug than mvo will get to it tomorrow i would think
[21:26] <MTecknology> gnomefreak: yup, I'm testing to make sure this makes things work - I have two other systems to test with
[21:26] <gnomefreak> i have to ping him about smart when i see him so i can refer him to bug report if he has time
[21:33] <mikeconcepts> mikeconcepts: /j #ubuntu+1
[21:34] <MTecknology> mikeconcepts: you're already here
[21:34] <mikeconcepts> can't see all the icons in system/administration with lucid ubuntu netbook remix
[21:34] <mikeconcepts> the majority of the icons are off the bottom of the screen
[21:35] <mikeconcepts> that is the only menu item that has that problem
[21:37] <xfact> hey
[21:37] <knittl> hi. how can i get the volume control applet back?
[21:38] <xfact> I was in lucid (alpha) few days ago, but after one update it was inaccessible so I was waiting, so anyone can tell me that Beta one is totally cured of whole system blockage or not?
[21:38] <cemc> knittl: Alt+F2 and type gnome-volume-control-applet
[21:39] <knittl> cemc: ok thanks. why isn't it starting automatically anymore?
[21:39] <xfact> Any guessing?
[21:40] <cemc> knittl: it was moved to the 'indicator area', I think. search for indicator applet in 'add to panel' window
[21:41] <xfact> Can anyone tell me is that safe to upgrade to lucid yet?
[21:41] <cemc> knittl: I'm guessing you have that indicator applet disabled like I have ;)
[21:43] <cnd> Where's the beta 1 cd isos (not the 4gb dvd isos)?
[21:43] <xfact> :(
[21:43] <knittl> cemc: no, i have the indicator applet
[21:43] <knittl> and it's not in there
[21:44] <knittl> only battery, bluetooth, transmission, rhythmbox and the generic mail symbox
[21:45] <MTecknology> gnomefreak: this sucks, my most important dev system isn't coming back up :P
[21:46] <cemc> knittl: isn't that the notification area?
[21:46] <mikeconcepts> did a ton of updates and after a cold boot the missing icons problem went away
[21:46] <mikeconcepts> just in case anyone was monitoring that
[21:47] <knittl> cemc: there is a difference?
[21:47] <cemc> knittl: seems so ;)
[21:47] <knittl> and adding a new indicator applet to the panel shows just that
[21:47] <knittl> so it is the indicator applet
[21:48] <cemc> knittl: and the volume control isn't in there?
[21:48] <knittl> nope
[21:48] <knittl> after starting gnome-volume-control-applet it's in the notification area ;)
[21:48] <knittl> left of pidgin and networking
[21:49] <cemc> mhm
[21:49] <cemc> I found the 'other' volume control in the indicator applet after I put it on the panel... but I like the other one better
[21:50] <knittl> i simply want the "real" one
[21:51] <pascal_> In 10.04,  I'm having problems with the 3G modem in knetworkmanager. it works fine in nm-applet. Who can I talk to i about?
[21:51] <pepee> hmm aptitude keeps telling me that there's a conflict between fglrx and fglrx-kernel-source, xorg-driver-fglrx
[21:51] <deanus> knittl,  its one of the indicator applets, cant remember which one.
[21:51] <cemc> knittl: they are all real ;) as in, they are change the volume, hehe
[21:52] <cemc> s/are/all/
[21:52] <knittl> alsamixer does that too :P
[21:53] <cemc> exactly ;)
[21:55] <pascal_> 10.04, knetworkmanager, 3g: who should I talk to?
[21:56] <knittl> need to install indicator-sound
[21:56] <knittl> there we go :)
[21:57] <cemc> :)
[22:00] <yofel> pascal_: I never got 3g to work in KNM too
[22:01] <pepee> try wicd
[22:01] <pascal_> yofel: yes.. thats the problem. It seems there is no problem configuring. But actually starting the service is not possible
[22:02] <pascal_> pepee: yes, but Kubuntu ships with knetworkmanager
[22:02] <yofel> pepee: the gnome applet works, not a network-manager problem
[22:02] <pepee> pascal_, yep, i know it
[22:02] <pepee> yofel, ahh
[22:02] <_jscguy> Hi there, what is the text box for in the username menu ?
[22:03] <pepee> I don't like NM...
[22:03] <knittl> is there a chance the indicator icons will regain pop up information?
[22:03] <knittl> i really miss it
[22:04] <yofel> pascal_: you could ask in #kubuntu-devel if you can help with debugging KNM, I use the experimental plasmoid here which has mobile settings disabled so I can't test it atm
[22:05] <pascal_> yofel: yes.. I just went in there.
[22:07] <ubuntujenkins> does this happen to any one else? http://www.imagesocket.com/upload/
[22:08] <ubuntujenkins> when the window is in active the button background messes up
[22:10] <_jscguy> any clue why I'm getting "invalid number" from dd with regards to a hexadecimal seek address? dd: invalid number `0x045d1400'
[22:10] <ubuntujenkins> wrong link http://www.imagesocket.com/view/Screenshotd57.png
[22:11] <pepee> *I repeat: aptitude keeps telling me that there's a conflict between fglrx and fglrx-kernel-source, xorg-driver-fglrx
[22:11] <pepee> is that the expected behavior?
[22:12] <Ian_Corne> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=07f16677f09b15a8660802c9e9bcd308&t=1438194&page=2
[22:12] <Ian_Corne> oops
[22:12] <Ian_Corne> sorry
[22:12] <Ian_Corne> not ubuntu+1 related :)
[22:12] <nooga> hi
[22:12] <nooga> php does not work in ~/public_html/ in lucid, i did that -> http://marco.tondela.org/2010/03/your-public_html-with-php5-isnt-working-in-ubuntu-lucid/
[22:12] <nooga> but it didn't help at all
[22:13] <nooga> any ideas how can I fix that?
[22:15] <nooga> or maybe at least some suggestions where to seek
[22:15] <red> hmm nooga
[22:16] <red> for me there has been no problems
[22:16] <red> did you upgrade to lucid with dist-upgrade?
[22:17] <faryshta> Hi, how can I install gparted?
[22:18] <BUGabundo_dinner> faryshta: $ sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade; sudo aptitude install gparted
[22:18] <BUGabundo_dinner> or any other APT frontend
[22:19] <faryshta> BUGabundo_dinner, I will try.
[22:27] <faryshta> BUGabundo, seems the México server is down and that is why I couldn't install software?
[22:27] <BUGabundo> oh ok
[22:32] <kklimonda> nooga: you could try asking folks at the #ubuntu-server, they may know how to help you or what you should be looking for to debug this issue.
[22:32] <Ian_Corne> faryshta: which server in mexico?
[22:33] <Ian_Corne> mx.archive ?
[22:34] <pepee> faryshta, just replace mx.archive with us.archive
[22:36] <David-T> great, gdm was entirely unusable due to... a missing gconf schema. not quite what i was thinking
[22:36] <faryshta> Ian_Corne, yes.
[22:36] <David-T> but meh, i only spent about 3 hours trying to fix nouveau before realising it wasn't broken.
[22:36] <faryshta> pepee, I did.
[22:37] <Ian_Corne> hmm
[22:42] <hoban> hello. I just upgraded to lucid from karmic and no longer have 3d support. How can I get the nvidia driver installed? Jockey doesn't work and if I install though aptitude, I still don't get 3d when I log in
[22:43] <jpds> pepee: Same machines.
[22:44] <pepee> heh didn't know
[22:45] <jpds> faryshta: I would suggest using: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/tezcatl.fciencias.unam.mx-archive
[22:45] <faryshta> jpds, Don't worry, I am already using the main server and installing my stuff.
[22:46] <jpds> faryshta: OK; mx.archive and us.archive both point at the main servers; do you're problem is really odd.
[22:46] <faryshta> hoban that sounds more like a configuration problem. Maybe you will need a fresh reinstall. I am not sue so I recommend to keep asking.
[22:46] <jpds> s/do/so/
[22:47] <faryshta> jpds: your* :P
[22:47] <jpds> That too.
[22:47] <faryshta> Well I am also behind a websense filter.
[22:48] <shane2peru> ok, wicd, doesn't want to connect to wireless with wpa2, any documentation, or hints? psk or aes?  what is the difference?
[22:48] <faryshta> So that may be the cause I download tons of shit from the mx.archive, maybe the admins of websense decided it was enough for me.
[22:48] <shane2peru> or should I just go with wep?
[22:49] <timh1> Are there problems with Gwibber at the moment. Was find. Did an update. Wont start in one user account but will on another. Gwibber service works ok. Any ideas?
[22:49] <timh1> Meant was fine.
[22:49] <arand> Is there a bug # for the window buttons being inconsistent when only 1 or 2 buttons are present?
[22:51] <kklimonda> arand: there is for sure
[22:52] <arand> kklimonda: Is that shoved into the master as well?
[22:52] <arand> since I can't seem to find a separate one for it..
[22:52] <kklimonda> arand: I don't think so, it's an actual bug
[22:53] <arand> kklimonda: on light-themes?
[22:54] <kklimonda> arand: you got me - I don't know if it's actually reported but I know developers know about it
[22:54] <almoxarife> shane2peru: you should use the amount of crypto you need for what you do, wep is the weakest
[22:55] <Some_Person> arand: It's a consequence of putting minimize in the middle. It has a sharp edge
[22:55] <arand> Some_Person: or having only the close button.
[22:55] <kklimonda> arand: but if it is it should be in light-themes
[22:55] <Some_Person> arand: The close button alone in the dark theme works (afaik), but not the light theme
[22:56] <arand> I wonder if it should be reported for good measure, and if asking ayatana is a right thing to do?
[22:56] <Some_Person> arand: All this is fixed in my version of light-themes, which has the buttons in their old karmic positions
[22:57] <kklimonda> Some_Person: so it's not really a fix
[22:57] <arand> Some_Person: also for one-button dialogues?
[22:57] <Some_Person> arand: One-button dialogues *should* work if you're using the dark theme already
[22:58] <pepee> well, all my problems solved by running apt-get update....
[22:58] <arand> Some_Person: Works in neither rad nor amb here, on latest updates
[22:58] <Some_Person> Hmm, well then somehow when I moved the buttons to the old karmic positions it started working fine
[22:59] <pepee> don't know if to laugh or to cry :(
[22:59] <Some_Person> I had to manually fix it for the light theme, but not the dark
[22:59] <pepee> bye ppl
[23:01] <Some_Person> With my light-themes: http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/3793/screenshotvw.png
[23:01] <faryshta> Before I screw up... how do I use gparted?
[23:03] <BUGabundo> faryshta: if you don't know, why did you want to install it ?
[23:03] <faryshta> BUGabundo, I want to format a USB-drive.
[23:03] <Some_Person> faryshta: Methinks you may be in the wrong room, unless you specifically installed a prerelease ubuntu without knowing anything about partitioning
[23:03] <BUGabundo> so what is your dificulty ?
[23:04] <BUGabundo> just right click the device, and choose format
[23:04] <bjsnider> gparted is pretty straightforward
[23:04] <BUGabundo> no need for gparted
[23:04] <BUGabundo> Some_Person: +1
[23:04] <arand> Some_Person: Yea, original is still http://imagebin.org/90395 and http://imagebin.org/90396
[23:05] <arand> However it seems like the two-button windows might have been fixed now..
[23:05] <Some_Person> arand: 2-button windows are unfixable as far as I can tell
[23:06] <Some_Person> The problem is that the minimize button is in the middle, and therefore is not rounded
[23:06] <Some_Person> As for 1-button windows, I'm not sure why they aren't working. Perhaps the code that makes them work depends on the old positions?
[23:08] <Some_Person> All I know is that without changing anything else, moving the buttons to the old positions fixes 1-button windows
[23:08] <Some_Person> (on the dark theme)
[23:09] <xfact> feww, that was libjavaplugin_oji.so
[23:09] <Some_Person> I think the bottom line here is that the funky positions should be ditched
[23:10] <xfact> problem solved, bye :)
[23:11] <arand> Some_Person: Original seems to have two-button working now, regardless if using max/min: http://imagebin.org/90398 http://imagebin.org/90397
[23:11] <Some_Person> hmm
[23:11] <Some_Person> In a 3-button window, where is minimize?
[23:12] <maccam94> i'm not seeing the volume control applet on my panel or in add to panel
[23:12] <arand> Well originally middle.
[23:12] <maccam94> any ideas?
[23:12] <Some_Person> maccam94: indicator applet
[23:12] <arand> maccam94: It's part of ↑
[23:13] <maccam94> ah
[23:13] <maccam94> seems to be kind of redundant with the user menu...
[23:16] <arand> I like how they add more and more clutter, all in the name of removing it: message-indicator now obligatory part of notification area, memenu/logout separated, but still in one lump so the memenu is stuck.
[23:17] <Some_Person> eh, complain to GNOME
[23:18] <arand> No, I think this is mostly ubuntu's doing actually.
[23:19] <Some_Person> What is the "message-indicator"?
[23:21] <arand> Some_Person: the letter icon, now part of indicator-applet
[23:21] <Some_Person> That's GNOME's doing
[23:22] <Some_Person> and things like volume are moving to indicator applet because the official gnome specs say they should be there
[23:22] <arand> Ah, ok then, well then it's not totally as hypocritical as I though it was then.
[23:23] <Some_Person> hypocritical?
[23:23] <kklimonda> Some_Person: not really, those are changes made by Ubuntu developers
[23:24] <Some_Person> But they were made because of the gnome specs
[23:24] <kklimonda> Some_Person: the spec you are talking about was created by KDE and is being discussed (or not) by fd.o
[23:24] <arand> Some_Person: Removing clutter by making unneccesary things obligatory.
[23:24] <Some_Person> huh? How could KDE create a spec for indicator applet?
[23:24] <kklimonda> arand: you can remove an envelope by stoping /usr/lib/indicator-messages/indicator-messages-service (and probably removing indicator-messageS)
[23:25] <kklimonda> arand: but most of us don't really count it as clutter
[23:25] <arand> kklimonda: ah, cheers. notes that down in the sane-defaults document.
[23:26] <deanus> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/how-to-remove-social-network-features.html
[23:27] <kklimonda> I don't really think that either messaging-menu or memenu is something that isn't sane ;)
[23:27] <NinoScript> in empathy, new conversations stay closed inside the chat applet, can I make them auto-open their windows?
[23:27] <kklimonda> I myself love the messaging indicator
[23:28] <arand> Last time I chacked, it didn't work well with thunderbird, so nothanks for me
[23:29] <kklimonda> so the problem isn't really the indicator itself
[23:32] <arand> On a different topic, does facebook chat use a specific port for it's business, so simply 80 won't do?
[23:32] <kklimonda> arand: it uses standard jabber port
[23:33] <howlymowly> hi poeple... short question about kubuntu 10.04 and firefox integration..  well.. just installed firefox but it looks just as ugly as in 9.10  i read somewhere that firefox was supposed to be better integrated in kde??
[23:33] <howlymowly> and kubuntu...
[23:34] <arand> kklimonda: so in the case of FB chat not working behind a vey restrictive FW, would one blame empathy or the firewall?
[23:35] <kklimonda> arand: firewall
[23:35] <arand> kklimonda: Ah.
[23:36] <IdleOne> arand: clearly the "vey restrictive FW"
[23:37] <arand> Well, I can do MSN chat and Skype, but apart from that... not much.
[23:39] <kklimonda> skype is a parasite
[23:39] <kklimonda> it is just going to use port 80 and some magic to bypass firewall
[23:41] <red> http magic
[23:41] <histo> Thats cool lucid supports reading the ipod 3g touch
[23:52] <Crashbit> Ubuntu lucid doesn't detect Seagate Barracuda XT Sata3 hard drive, anyone help me ?
[23:54] <kklimonda> does it show up in dmesg at all?
[23:58] <dougb> is iphone support broken for anyone else?