[01:41] <blackotaku> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mono/+bug/546477 - This bug should be set to Wishlist. It deals with the way the way the battery indicator depletes when discharging.
[01:41] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 546477 in ubuntu-mono (Ubuntu) "Battery level should deplete to the right (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[01:44] <charlie-tca> how about a comment? did you confirm it is in the wrong place?
[01:46] <charlie-tca> blackotaku: you could put in that you believe this is a good change to make based on practical use.
[01:47] <blackotaku> ok i will.
[01:48] <charlie-tca> thank you for helping
[01:49] <blackotaku> np
[06:27] <Damascene> hello
[06:27] <Damascene> bug 545459
[06:27] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 545459 in evolution (Ubuntu) "evolution new message is broken in Arabic locale (affects: 2)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/545459
[06:28] <Damascene> where is Pedro Villavicencio
[06:29] <Damascene> sending emails from e-mail client important is low?
[08:29] <marmuta> Hi, I'm constantly getting "Unexpected form data" in launchpad and nothing happens when filing bug reports or simply trying to log out.
[08:30] <vish> marmuta: #launchpad is a better channel for this problem
[08:31] <marmuta> ok, thanks
[08:31] <vish> np..
[08:53] <BUGabundo_remote> bom dia
[09:05] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_remote: are you using thunderbird-3.0?
[09:06] <BUGabundo_remote> nop
[09:06] <BUGabundo_remote> kmail and mutt
[09:11] <gnomefreak> oh
[09:12] <yofel> gnomefreak: I do (3.0.3~hg20100217r4732+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1)
[09:14] <gnomefreak> yofel: perfect let me grab the bug, hoping you can confirm
[09:16] <gnomefreak> yofel: bug 544187 please try to confirm/reproduce
[09:16] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 544187 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Thunderbird 3.0 does not respect at least one setting (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/544187
[09:16]  * gnomefreak should change that summery
[09:19] <yofel> hm, lemme update first, seems they moved to the thunderbird package and abandoned -3.0
[09:25] <gnomefreak> yofel: yeah it was just a profile change once you imported old setting to new dir.
[09:26] <gnomefreak> yofel: latest daily thunderbird is 3.0.5~hg20100317r4793+nobinonly-0ubuntu2~umd4
[09:27] <yofel> yep, just installing
[09:27]  * gnomefreak be back in a few
[09:27] <gnomefreak> yofel: thanks
[09:34] <Damascene> bug 545459
[09:34] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 545459 in evolution (Ubuntu) "evolution new message is broken in Arabic locale (affects: 2)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/545459
[09:34] <Damascene> sending emails from e-mail client important is low?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> Damascene: depends on the bug. i dont have evo so i cant test
[09:35] <Damascene> what do you have instead
[09:36] <yofel> Damascene: the importance is decided by https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance please see there if you can argue for a higher importance
[09:36] <gnomefreak> Damascene: thunderbird 3
[09:36] <Damascene> ok, thank you
[09:37] <Kambanka> Ubuntu 10.04 has the titlebar buttons on the left - what were the designers thinking? And were they thinking at all!@#$
[09:39] <gnomefreak> http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/move-buttons-to-right-side
[09:39] <gnomefreak> oh hes gone
[09:45] <yofel> gnomefreak: tb does ask me to send the outbox here if I go online again after telling it to send the mail later.
[09:46] <gnomefreak> yofel: does it send the email?
[09:46] <yofel> it does
[09:46] <gnomefreak> yofel: ok thanks
[09:49] <Damascene> who can change the important now?
[09:49] <Damascene> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/545459
[09:49] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 545459 in evolution (Ubuntu) "evolution new message is broken in Arabic locale (affects: 2)" [Low,New]
[09:51] <yofel> Damascene: ok, what importance do you thing it should be? (also you might want for pedro to join and ask him directly why he set it low)
[09:51] <yofel> *want to wait
[09:52] <Damascene> I want him to join. but how to?
[09:52] <yofel> Damascene: like I corrected, wait for him, I'm not sure what time zone he lives in
[09:53] <Damascene> so he used to come here, right?
[09:57] <yofel> Damascene: he's usually in here every day, (pedro_ usually).
[09:57] <yofel> hm, seems like he lives in chile, guess he's asleep
[10:02] <Damascene> thank you yofel
[10:03] <yofel> you're welcome
[10:31] <Damascene> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports shows old link
[10:31] <Damascene> under -Proposed
[10:32] <Damascene> Backports bugtracker https://launchpad.net/intrepid-backports/+filebug
[11:22] <jeanfi> Hello, I have opened 2 bugs which I no more reproduce since the lucid beta1. I guess the bugs should be closed but other people declare to be impacted by the bug without mentionning if it is before or after beta
[11:22] <jeanfi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/539402 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/539398
[11:22] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 539402 in udev (Ubuntu) "does not terminate at computer shutdown (affects: 7)" [Undecided,New]
[11:28] <yofel> bug 539398
[11:28] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 539398 in util-linux (Ubuntu) "does not terminate at computer shutdown (affects: 24)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/539398
[12:47] <kamusin> :)
[13:05] <BUGabundo_remote> FOOOO
[13:06] <nigel_nb> bar?
[13:14] <charlie-tca> Hello, BUGabundo_remote
[13:41] <BUGabundo_remote> hey charlie-tca
[13:49] <pedro_> dpm, hey, have a minute? does bug 542704 looks to you like a valid ubuntu-translations tasks?
[13:49] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 542704 in checkbox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Test selector screen is not wide enough for 4 buttons (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/542704
[13:50] <dpm> pedro_, sure, looking...
[13:50] <pedro_> dpm, seems that the problem is just checkbox in that case
[13:50] <dpm> we'll have to beat cr3
[13:50] <pedro_> there's no code to touch on the translations side afaik
[13:50] <pedro_> dpm, cool! i'll assign the bug to him ;-)
[13:51] <dpm> :)
[13:52] <dpm> pedro_, yeah, I think it's a valid translations task. kelemengabor filed it, and he knows translations :)
[13:53] <pedro_> dpm, so just leave it open for keep tracking of it?
[13:54] <dpm> pedro_, we normally mark them as triaged them to keep track of such tasks, and let the developers fix them or nag them after a while :) Sometimes translations people also provide patches and close the translations task for themselves
[13:55] <pedro_> dpm, ok will mark it as such then, thanks!
[13:55] <dpm> cool
[14:06] <pedro_> thekorn, hello are you there? it seems that hugday init doesn't work anymore at least with cookies
[14:07] <pedro_> thekorn, we're getting an error : TypeError: Error while trying to read cookie in sql format, cannot handle format of '/home/pedro/.mozilla/firefox/s0k7zod7.default/cookies.sqlite'
[14:07] <pedro_> thekorn, and dpm is getting the same error there
[14:07] <yofel> firefox running maybe?
[14:07] <dpm> with wiki-id seems to work
[14:09] <pedro_> closing firefox seems to work, weird that there's no notes of that on the tool page
[14:09] <pedro_> dpm, works fine for you if you close firefox?
[14:10] <dpm> oh, let me try in a minute, I've got way too many tabs and windows open :)
[14:11] <yofel> pedro_: there is a note about closing mozilla in the cookie instructions
[14:12] <pedro_> i'll put that in bold and big ;-)
[14:27] <dpm> pedro_, in your experience with patches, what do you think devs prefer, patches, a branch + merge proposal, or it doesn't matter? I'd think branch + MP, but before recommending any approach to people, I'd prefer asking the experts :)
[14:28] <pedro_> dpm, i'd ask the maintainers directly on what's their preference ;-)
[14:28] <dpm> ok :)
[14:29] <seb128> dpm, usually having a bug for desktop changes is better
[14:30] <seb128> dpm, otherwise it's likely we will not read the mp, dunno who receive those but not the maintainer often
[14:30] <seb128> dpm, ie we don't get notified about those
[14:30] <dpm> seb128, yeah, but I meant once you've got the bug, is there a preferred approach? Or everyone's different?
[14:30] <seb128> then the format of the change, debdiff or mp doesn't realy make a difference...
[14:30] <seb128> I think we lean toward the mp way
[14:31] <dpm> ok, thanks for the info, Seb
[14:31] <seb128> yw
[14:31] <kamusin> dpm, question: what status should I set for example for this bug 545095
[14:31] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 545095 in software-center (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) ""Featured Applications" untranslated and untranslatable (affects: 1)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/545095
[14:34] <kelemengabor> kamusin: the template is approved: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/software-center/+imports so I think we can say it is fix released
[14:34] <kamusin> for translations that are not released yet but are translated at LP
[14:34] <dpm> kamusin, I'd mark it as Fix Released as the bug itself. The main issue, it not being translatable has been fixed
[14:35] <dpm> the fact that translations are not there yet because they're waiting on the next language pack to be released, doesn't affect the bug
[14:36] <dpm> if translations are not loaded even after the new language packs containing them, then we'll have to file another bug :)
[14:36] <kamusin> dpm, right.. so these cases can be marked like Fix Released
[14:37] <dpm> yeah, I think so
[14:37] <kamusin> cool , thanks dpm :)
[14:51] <thekorn> pedro_: hi, I'm there now, do you have a running firefox instance?
[14:53] <pedro_> thekorn, all solved it was firefox, I've put a '''note''' in the wiki with bold and big ;-)
[14:55] <thekorn> okidoki
[14:56] <thekorn> btw, I think this is a bug in firefox, why should FF keep a sqlite connection open all the time?
[14:56] <thekorn> but this is a completely different question .... ;)
[15:18] <salty-horse> can anyone confirm this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autoconf/+bug/546966
[15:18] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 546966 in autoconf (Ubuntu) "autoconf's "mktime" test gets stuck, takes too much CPU (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[15:20] <bliss> i've experienced that, but it's only a few seconds, nothing impacting functionality
[15:21] <salty-horse> bliss, how many seconds?
[15:25] <bliss> probably 20-30
[15:28] <salty-horse> was it like that in karmic?
[15:28] <salty-horse> that's too much for a test that checks if a function works
[15:28] <salty-horse> I'm pretty sure it's a bug
[15:38] <bliss> yes, this is in karmic
[15:38] <bliss> if i recall, i can try again to make sure, i've been switching distros a lot lately for testing
[15:40] <bliss> seems to be intermittent, just did a mktime check that went instantly
[15:41] <bliss> in fact, i may be remembering incorrectly, it might have happened on a Debian system instead
[15:41] <salty-horse> oh well. I still think this is a problem
[15:41] <salty-horse> could you add a comment with the system you tested on?
[15:42] <salty-horse> oh it's here too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.3/+bug/323528
[15:42] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 323528 in gcc-4.3 (Ubuntu) "mktime bug back with gcc 4.3.2" [Undecided,Invalid]
[15:42] <bliss> indicating that i have a vague memory of this happening, but i can't remember which release or even distro it was on?  i think i'd rather wait until i have something more concrete
[15:42] <salty-horse> and http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/issue486
[15:43] <salty-horse> I wonder why searching for "mktime" didn't find that bug before :/
[15:44] <bliss> ah, reproduced, it happens when running the configure script for emacs
[15:44] <salty-horse> never mind, bliss. it's a dupe of that other lp bug I linked
[16:14] <nperry> bug 545209 Its been reported upstream, with all the required information, Shall i ask the OR for him to post in the lp bug?
[16:14] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 545209 in chromium-browser (Fluxbuntu) (and 2 other projects) "chromium-browser with gecko-mediaplayer hangs on KDE (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/545209
[16:26] <nigelb> bcurtiswx_laptop: can you add that the -1 is only for bug control and not bug squad?
[16:27] <nigelb> re: the application that you just responded to on M/L
[16:28] <bcurtiswx_laptop> nigelb: done.. thx
[16:28] <nigelb> np :)
[16:30] <nperry> Could somone wishlist bug 536768 please
[16:30] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 536768 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Poor error message when offline (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/536768
[16:40] <bcurtiswx_laptop> nperry: done
[16:51] <nperry> bcurtiswx_laptop: Could you do this one to if possible please, 528655 - Ive marked it upstream
[16:55] <bcurtiswx_laptop> nperry: ok done
[17:39] <vish> bcurtiswx_laptop: om26er is consistent atleast [+1ing BC application] as his triaging ;-)
[17:47] <bcurtiswx_laptop> vish: yeah.. i guess om26er should be my problem since he works on mostly empathy bugs with me
[17:48] <bcurtiswx_laptop> vish: i don't think seeing him on mailing list is a good reason to accept someone for triaging though..
[17:48] <vish> bcurtiswx_laptop:  i was being sarcastic ;p
[17:49] <bcurtiswx_laptop> vish: i know.. its just I should probably take responsibility of om26er as he still needs work
[17:50] <vish> bcurtiswx_laptop: i just wish he kept to empathy and bothered only you ;p
[17:52] <bcurtiswx_laptop> vish: thanks ... i appreciate it :P
[18:03] <vish> pedro_: hi :(    Bug #527569  again... the sigpipe gdb has a few "??" from libdbus and gnome-keyring , which i didnt have the debug symbols for :( , could we submit it upstream and then see if they need more info or do you want another one?
[18:03] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 527569 in evolution (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Evolution freezes often [evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall() ] (affects: 2) (dups: 1)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/527569
[18:03] <pedro_> vish, looking
[18:09] <pedro_> vish, is missing some from dbus,g-k and e-dataserverui, but let the upstream developers to decide if it's good enough for them to work on the issue, otherwise just install libgnome-keyring0-dbgsym libdbus-1-3-dbgsym libedataserverui1.2-8-dbgsym
[18:10] <vish> pedro_: yeah , sure.. its just that the bug is random that it takes time to catch it ;)  we'll see what they say :)
[18:11] <pedro_> vish, yeah seems to be tricky to reproduce, better to send it and wait for feedback, thanks vish!
[18:11] <vish> pedro_: thanks
[18:41] <Sioux-33> hi after kernel update to 2.6.31.21 in ubuntu 9.10 mousse cursor disappear does anyone know why?
[18:43] <bcurtiswx_laptop> Sioux-33: join #ubuntu for support , this channel is more for discussing bug reports not potential bugs
[18:43] <Sioux-33> ok laptop
[19:21] <qense> OMG: 413 new bugs in network-manager
[19:21] <BUGabundo> 8|
[19:23] <qense> and then you thought you had it, but no! 240 new bugs against network-manager-applet!
[19:23] <qense> That needs a whole adoption army!
[19:28] <micahg> qense: I still have 2500 firefox bugs :)
[19:29] <qense> micahg: ouch!
[19:30] <qense> micahg: good luck, I hope you get them all done before the release of Lucid.
[19:30] <micahg> qense: ha!  I hope to get rid of a thousand by Lucid +1 :)
[19:30] <qense> :)
[19:30] <qense> That's a more realistic goal.
[19:30] <micahg> qense: I'm focusing on packages this cycle
[19:31] <qense> micahg: What packages?
[19:31] <micahg> qense: Mozilla stack and rdepends
[19:32] <qense> good
[19:38] <jeanfi> Hello, I have opened 2 bugs which I no more reproduce since the lucid beta1. I guess the bugs should be closed but other people declare to be impacted by the bug without mentioning if it is before or after beta, should I close the bugs or let the status as 'new'?
[19:42] <micahg> jeanfi: which bugs?
[19:43] <jeanfi> bug 539398
[19:43] <jeanfi> bug 539402
[19:43] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 539398 in util-linux (Ubuntu) "does not terminate at computer shutdown (affects: 24)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/539398
[19:43] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 539402 in udev (Ubuntu) "does not terminate at computer shutdown (affects: 7)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/539402
[19:48] <ruelle> i have upgraded to 10.4 and now my system is unusable. as long as i am in single user mode everything is fine. i even can run X and an xterm inside it. but when i switch to multiusermode, the keyboard, mouse and network are disabled. the only thing i can do then is shutting my computer down via acpi.
[19:49] <bcurtiswx_laptop> geez, i've started a friendly little debate on the bug control mailing list
[19:50] <bcurtiswx_laptop> bdmurray: have you been paying attention to the application responses so far?
[19:52] <jeanfi> ruelle, I believe the right irc canal for 10.04 support is #ubuntu+1
[19:53] <ruelle> jeanfi: maybe i should write a bug report. the guys in ubuntu+1 dont answer. but how can i write a bug report via a browser.
[19:55] <kklimonda> how can I copy a short link to the bug from the Launchpad?
[19:56] <kklimonda> in the past I could copy the last segment of the breadcrumb but now it's unclickable
[19:56] <charlie-tca> ruelle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing%20bugs%20at%20Launchpad.net
[20:26] <bcurtiswx_laptop> hggdh: may I PM you?
[20:53] <hggdh> bcurtiswx_laptop: of course