| slangasek | bryceh: ok, the fglrx package appears to check out as DTRT, I think the submitter of that bug simply didn't use the Ubuntu fglrx package | 00:06 |
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| bryceh | slangasek, yep, that's what I thought. It's sort of a known donut hole. I put it in our spec and test plans to try to handle the corner case better but I think tseliot had too many other tasks to juggle | 00:07 |
| superm1 | the problem is that the changes for the fglrx packaging don't trickle into AMD's releases for 2-3 releases | 00:08 |
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| psusi | hrm... seems the disk UUID mapping gives preference to the snapshot over the original volume.... not good. | 02:40 |
| soren | psusi: What, still?!? | 03:34 |
| * soren facepalms | 03:35 | |
| soren | kees: Would you say bug 460906 is important enough to be fixed this late in the cycle? | 03:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 460906 in lvm2 "disk/by-uuid/foo symlink points to snapshot rather than the origin" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/460906 | 03:38 |
| * soren thinks so | 03:38 | |
| hyperair | that suonds like a potentially problematic bug | 03:40 |
| soren | Indeed. I spotted it quite late in the karmic cycle (a few days before release, apparantly) and then forgot all about until just now. | 03:41 |
| kees | soren: I still don't have much of an opinion about it. I think by-uuid for a snapshot is kind of meaningless (i.e. the lv name is the unique part) | 04:39 |
| kees | soren: there is logic for the link either direction. | 04:39 |
| slangasek | doko_: I've confirmed that bug #417757 *is* still present in lucid | 05:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 417757 in eglibc "[karmic regression] all network apps / browsers suffer from multi-second delays by default due to IPv6 DNS lookups" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/417757 | 05:22 |
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| twb | Can I make pbuilder automatically run lintian on the .changes file it generates? If so, how? | 07:03 |
| pitti | Good morning | 07:09 |
| pitti | beuno: aptitude> hm, not sure; mvo? | 07:09 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:19 |
| [reed] | anybody know why Ubuntu's apache2 doesn't link against libssl like Debian's does? | 08:22 |
| twb | [reed]: from the PTS page (http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/apache2.html) you can find a link to the patch between Debian and Ubuntu. That usually explains why. | 08:36 |
| twb | I can't see anything obvious there, so maybe you misdiagnosed it? | 08:37 |
| primes2h | pitti: Hello, please wait a moment before closing bug 536914. I found out there are other few keys that needs fixing (<255) I'll tell you when I finish. | 09:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 536914 in udev "[Lucid Alpha3][khk-004 testcase failed] Click on Internet hotkey opens Home folder on Acer Laptops" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/536914 | 09:00 |
| pitti | primes2h: hm, I thought I reopened it already? | 09:02 |
| pitti | ah, I did | 09:02 |
| pitti | primes2h: ok, waitin gthen | 09:03 |
| primes2h | pitti: Yes, I mean, there is still other 2 keys I have to triage | 09:03 |
| primes2h | pitti: thanks | 09:03 |
| primes2h | pitti: I also sent a message to our Italian Testing ML asking Simona (Aspire 1640) to tell me about her full keyboard layout. | 09:06 |
| primes2h | pitti: I'll let you know ASAP | 09:06 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Would I break anything if I were to include the checking of hd[a-z] in the 60-cdrom_id.rules udev rule? This is needed for lucid only, as there is no libata version of powerpc/mac's IDE driver. A driver is supposedly in 2.6.33, so this rule change is only needed till lucid+1, and its safer than backporting a driver in the kernel. | 09:10 |
| mkarnicki | lwindow 1 | 09:10 |
| mkarnicki | oops sry guys ;) | 09:11 |
| pitti | TheMuso: this sounds very similar to what Debian has to do; I thought mbiebl already had a patch for IDE CD-ROMs, let me check | 09:11 |
| pitti | TheMuso: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-utopia/udisks.git;a=blob;f=debian/patches/10-ide-cd-support.patch;h=59a19e4eaf414b9b8bdf0588898d964ff95613f3;hb=HEAD | 09:13 |
| pitti | TheMuso: it basically adds the blkid call for ID_CDROM_MEDIA hd* | 09:13 |
| pitti | TheMuso: is that what you need? | 09:13 |
| TheMuso | pitti: No, I mean actually editing 60-cdrom_id.rules to check for add|change nodes on hd[a-z] for IDE CD devices that are on the pmac driver in 2.6.32 and below, which doesn't have a libata equivalent. | 09:14 |
| TheMuso | I'm just wondring whether checking those nodes shoudl they exist will break anything. | 09:14 |
| TheMuso | so the change is in udev itself. | 09:15 |
| pitti | ah, I see | 09:15 |
| pitti | TheMuso: hm, Debian should have that change as well then, otherwise mbiebl's udisks patch couldn't work at all | 09:15 |
| TheMuso | true | 09:16 |
| * TheMuso checks sid's udev. | 09:16 | |
| pitti | TheMuso: so, I don't think it would hurt at all, but it'd be the first and only delta to upstream that we have in udev, and I don't think Keybuk will like it a lot | 09:16 |
| pitti | TheMuso: OTOH there's nothing wrong with shipping a 60-cdrom_id-ide.rules in a powerpc specific package :) | 09:16 |
| TheMuso | pitti: RIght, I can understand that. | 09:16 |
| TheMuso | pitti: There is that too. I'll have to see how that could be included in d-i, as d-i installation from alternates on powerpc are broken due to this issue. | 09:17 |
| pitti | TheMuso: oh, right, I could just stuff the new rule into debian/ in udev | 09:18 |
| pitti | TheMuso: and only install it on powerpc, to be on the safe side | 09:18 |
| TheMuso | pitti: that works | 09:18 |
| TheMuso | pitti: there is an LP bug for this, reported by someone else. I'll fetch the number. | 09:18 |
| pitti | TheMuso: confirmed, sid's udev has the rule like that | 09:19 |
| TheMuso | pitti: oh ok you beat me to it. | 09:19 |
| pitti | TheMuso: ok, please assing it to me; I'll have a quick discussion with Keybuk about how he wants this packaged, and get to it | 09:19 |
| TheMuso | bug 534912 | 09:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 534912 in udev "[Lucid powerpc alternate] No common CD-ROM drive was detected." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/534912 | 09:19 |
| TheMuso | pitti: ok thanks. | 09:20 |
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| mvo | cjwatson: hi, are you ok with the name "SUPPORTED_OVERWRITES.hints" for the fine-tuning file for lucid-support-timeframe? I will put it in lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/platform.lucid - I'm happy about better matching names | 10:33 |
| mvo | cjwatson: or maybe SUPPORT_TIME_OVERWRITES.hints ? | 10:39 |
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| pecisk | kenvandine: hi, are you here? :) | 11:00 |
| jibel | mvo, hey, I need advice to fix bug 130289 | 11:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 130289 in apt "Encode any ":", "@" or "/" within the user and password field in proxy settings." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130289 | 11:01 |
| mvo | jibel: let me have a look | 11:01 |
| jibel | mvo, the problem is with the way apt reads it's configuration and parse encoded characters. | 11:02 |
| jibel | e.g %40 is stored internally as @ | 11:02 |
| jibel | It's then really difficult to parse an URI with password containing these characters | 11:02 |
| jibel | mvo, Is there any way to read the raw value of a configuration item ? | 11:02 |
| jibel | If there's no trivial solution I'll update the URI parser. | 11:03 |
| mvo | jibel: something like QuoteString etc from apt-pkg/contrib/strutils.cc does not help I assume? | 11:06 |
| jibel | mvo, no it will quote the whole string. if there something like Acquire::http::Proxy "http://user2:p%40s%2Fs%3Aword@localhost:3128"; | 11:08 |
| jibel | mvo, I need the value http://user2:p%40s%2Fs%3Aword@localhost:3128 not user2:p@s/:word or worse user2:p%40s%2Fs%3Aword%40localhost%3A3128 | 11:09 |
| mvo | jibel: could we read the string from the config, use the URI class to convert it, and then QuoteString/UnQuoteString only on URI.User, URI.Password? | 11:10 |
| mvo | jibel: I guess it would make a lot of sense to add a GetRaw to the configuration class in apt itself, let me have a look | 11:11 |
| ion | I love seeing fixes for race conditions by adding ‘sleep 3’. :-) (foo2zjs changelog) | 11:13 |
| jibel | mvo, That's what I was thinking too. Add a FindR method and a RawValue member to the Item struct | 11:13 |
| ion | tkamppeter: Isn’t having a udev script call sleep EBW? | 11:23 |
| pecisk | kenvandine: so far I couldn't get libproxy to recognise different server for https, and also it ignores auth. user and password in GNOME proxy settings | 11:23 |
| slangasek | ion: elephantine beyond words? | 11:23 |
| slangasek | oh, "evil bad wrong"? | 11:23 |
| ion | bingo | 11:23 |
| slangasek | yes, udev doesn't allow long-lived child processes | 11:24 |
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| jibel | mvo, the problem is elsewhere. apt reads and stores its configuration correctly but it converts and stores the string a second time. | 11:27 |
| pecisk | kenvandine: seems like we will have to patch libproxy to support more than simple proxy handling to have proper support. | 11:30 |
| cjwatson | mvo: all-caps is reasonable to avoid clashes - how about SUPPORTED-HINTS? | 11:38 |
| cjwatson | EBW> I like "B&R" (Bad and Rong) | 11:39 |
| mvo | cjwatson: thanks, SUPPORTED_HINTS is fine, I will use that | 11:46 |
| lamont | asac/ogra: http://launchpad.net/builders/gourd | 11:58 |
| lamont | this will especially be a win if eglibc is FTBFS on imbe | 11:58 |
| jibel | mvo, the problem is in pkgAcqMethod::Configuration where all the config items are "dequoted" I guess | 11:59 |
| mvo | jibel: ohh, that makes sense | 11:59 |
| lamont | asac/ogra: since my testbuild of that version of eglibc on gourd resulted in bug 546808 | 12:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 546808 in eglibc "armel v7 test failure: test-fpucw, tst-cpuclock2, tst-eintr1, tst-timer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/546808 | 12:00 |
| kenvandine | pecisk, can you check in #libproxy first? | 12:01 |
| kenvandine | pecisk, i would be surprised if that was the case | 12:01 |
| kenvandine | pecisk, nevermind... i see you did | 12:01 |
| kenvandine | rock on :) | 12:01 |
| pecisk | kenvandine: i run trough code, it is very simple, they handle only http now | 12:01 |
| tjaalton | is there a long backlog of builds or other problems, since ppa packages seem to take many hours before getting built | 12:02 |
| pecisk | problem is - if you want to use libproxy in Lucid, it would have rather large feature set to add, and it is kinda no no as far as I know | 12:02 |
| pecisk | nevermind that code is kinda simple | 12:02 |
| mvo | jibel: apt-get update -o Debug::pkgAcquire::worker=true will show you the configuration messages that are send | 12:02 |
| pecisk | run/ran/s | 12:02 |
| lamont | tjaalton: lots of uploads, and the extra machines that we generally steal to be ppas are being used for their primary role atm, it would appear | 12:03 |
| lamont | at least "many of" | 12:03 |
| tjaalton | lamont: ok, I'll wait then | 12:03 |
| tjaalton | though at least i386/amd64 buildd's don't have any "'currently building' build records" | 12:06 |
| lamont | https://edge.launchpad.net/builders | 12:07 |
| jibel | mvo, that's it. I removed the DeQuoteString and the password is ok. | 12:07 |
| tjaalton | hah, a lot accurate it seems :) | 12:07 |
| tjaalton | +more | 12:07 |
| * tjaalton bookmarks | 12:08 | |
| tjaalton | damn daily/nightly builds ;) | 12:08 |
| jibel | cjwatson, hi, could you have a look at bug 545790, 545738, 454354. This is an odd error and there's an increasing number of reports since a few days. | 12:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 545790 in dpkg "package PACKAGE failed to install/upgrade: error writing to '<standard output>': Success" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/545790 | 12:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 545738 in dpkg "package PACKAGE failed to install/upgrade: error writing to '<standard output>': No such file or directory" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/545738 | 12:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 454354 in dpkg "package PACKAGE failed to install/upgrade: error writing to '<standard output>': Input/output error" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/454354 | 12:11 |
| jibel | cjwatson, there error is triggered when dpkg fflush an error message but the fflush fails. | 12:12 |
| jibel | cjwatson, The scenario seems to be: user run update-manager, system crash, reboot, apport triggers and report those errors. | 12:12 |
| ogra | lamalex, i dont think the test is a HW specific failure (fails on pegatron as well as on babbage afaik) | 12:13 |
| ogra | lamont, ^^^ | 12:13 |
| jibel | mvo, do you think adding an untouched raw config value is the right solution ? | 12:13 |
| cjwatson | jibel: any idea when it started appearing? | 12:16 |
| cjwatson | jibel: (BTW I really appreciate this sort of active triage/collation work and direct contact with developers on the hot bugs - it's invaluable) | 12:16 |
| cjwatson | $ wcgrep 'm_output.*standard output' | wc -l | 12:17 |
| cjwatson | 35 | 12:17 |
| cjwatson | oh dear | 12:17 |
| jibel | cjwatson, in karmic, but the rate is higher since the latest beta | 12:18 |
| cjwatson | could just be increasing number of upgrades, then | 12:18 |
| mvo | jibel: you removed the UnQuoteString in ::Configuration ? or where? | 12:18 |
| mvo | jibel: there was a crash bug for a couple of hours in update-manager that may have triggered this | 12:20 |
| jibel | mvo, yes, but that's definitely not the right solution ;) | 12:20 |
| mvo | jibel: that is why I asked :) | 12:20 |
| jibel | mvo, but that confirms that's the problem since there's no more 407 from the proxy. | 12:21 |
| mvo | jibel: hm, hm, tircky to solve | 12:21 |
| lamont | ogra: hence the bonus points if it does fail on pegatron | 12:21 |
| mvo | jibel: but great that we know excactly what the problem is now | 12:21 |
| jibel | mvo, have some lunch. cu | 12:22 |
| mvo | jibel: see you (and thanks!) | 12:22 |
| asac | lamont: can you try to build libplist on one of the newer builders? | 12:26 |
| lamont | asac: assuming it builds, how long does it run? | 12:28 |
| asac | lamont: really quick | 12:30 |
| asac | a couple of minutes | 12:30 |
| asac | lamont: its the one that failed because of thumb2 instructions in the test binaries | 12:31 |
| lamont | /home/buildd/libplist-1.1/obj-arm-linux-gnueabi/swig/plistPYTHON_wrap.cxx:9369: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*' | 12:31 |
| lamont | giggle | 12:31 |
| lamont | ah, cool | 12:31 |
| lamont | tests 100% passed. | 12:32 |
| * asac happy! | 12:32 | |
| asac | lamont: was that a real archive build? or just a test build? | 12:32 |
| asac | e.g. are the bits now in ? | 12:32 |
| lamont | just a test | 12:32 |
| asac | ah ok | 12:32 |
| lamont | forcing the build to happen there requires, um, more work | 12:33 |
| asac | heh | 12:33 |
| * lamont goes to throw it against the wall a little | 12:33 | |
| ogra | but that smells very good already :) | 12:35 |
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| ion | keybuk: You might find a udev script doing ‘sleep 3’ interesting. Oh, and the ‘sleep 3’ is a also ‘fix’ for a race condition. ;-) The package is foo2zjs. | 12:51 |
| Keybuk | *shrug* | 12:51 |
| Keybuk | probably works just fine in mandriva | 12:51 |
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| pecisk | libparted segfaults in daily lucid server cd when trying to get partition tables from hard drives | 13:17 |
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| cjwatson | pecisk: please submit a bug report with full logs | 13:23 |
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| pecisk | c | 13:39 |
| pecisk | will do | 13:40 |
| mvo | jibel: I updated bug #130289 with a possible solution, I would be interessted if it helps | 14:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 130289 in apt "Encode any ":", "@" or "/" within the user and password field in proxy settings." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130289 | 14:06 |
| tkamppeter | ion, the sleep is called in a script which the udev rule starts in the background. The udev rule exits while the script is still running. | 14:07 |
| Keybuk | tkamppeter: why does it sleep though? | 14:07 |
| cjwatson | pitti: what's the easiest way for me to test that new ntfs-3g still works with udisks? | 14:08 |
| pitti | cjwatson: create an USB stick with an NTFS partition, plug it in, and see if it automounts? | 14:09 |
| pitti | cjwatson: I also have a test suite for udisks, which covers NTFS as well | 14:09 |
| pitti | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/tree/tests/run | 14:10 |
| pitti | you can just run that | 14:10 |
| pitti | cjwatson: but if an NTFS usb stick automounts, it should be okay; I don't suppose it changed the mount.ntfs-3g CLI, did it? | 14:11 |
| cjwatson | shouldn't think so | 14:13 |
| xnox | Please sponsor sync Bug #546482. It's bugfix & translation lucid-special LTS upstream release. | 14:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 546482 in xiphos "Sync xiphos 3.1.3-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/546482 | 14:18 |
| mvo | Riddell: I attached a patch to bug #546024, you may want to check if the version is correct and commit to bzr (I don't think I have commit access to the relevant branch) | 14:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 546024 in phonon "file overwrite error" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/546024 | 14:24 |
| lemsx1 | Please see bug # 546929 as this affect new installations in today's netboot installer | 14:29 |
| cjwatson | pitti: thanks, ntfs test passes, uploading | 14:29 |
| pitti | \o/ thanks | 14:29 |
| cjwatson | didn't have a handy USB stick but I guess "fs: NTFS ... [cli] [ud] ok" is good enough | 14:29 |
| cjwatson | lemsx1: *please* don't file bugs against the 'lucid' project | 14:30 |
| pitti | cjwatson: right | 14:30 |
| pitti | cjwatson: out of interest, how much of the tests passed for you? | 14:30 |
| cjwatson | lemsx1: read the text in ALL CAPS on https://launchpad.net/lucid | 14:30 |
| pitti | s/much/many/ | 14:30 |
| cjwatson | pitti: oh, I just did './run FS.test_ntfs' | 14:30 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ah, fair enough | 14:30 |
| pitti | cjwatson: I was just curious, since I didn't get a lot of feedback from other people/distros about it yet (except from mbiebl) | 14:31 |
| pitti | but nevermind | 14:31 |
| cjwatson | lemsx1: I've reassigned your bug to the proper place | 14:31 |
| cjwatson | lemsx1: of course the developers of that text editor will keep on getting mailed about it, but ... | 14:32 |
| ScottK | mvo: We get phonon from qt4-x11 now. I moved the bug to the right package. | 14:35 |
| mvo | ScottK: thanks | 14:35 |
| ScottK | doko_: Does your gcc4.4 ia64 fix mean we can drop the ia64 specific work around in our next qt4-x11 upload? | 14:35 |
| pecisk | hi people, if I configure GNOME proxy settings with auth. user and password, I can't get http_proxy as http://user:password@host:port, but simply as http://host:port. It is intentional? | 14:36 |
| doko_ | ScottK: yes | 14:36 |
| ScottK | doko_: Thanks. | 14:36 |
| jibel | mvo, it doesn't help. the problem is really with the global dequotestring in pkgAcqMethod::Configuration | 14:38 |
| jibel | mvo, we want some config vars to be unquoted and some other not to be. | 14:39 |
| jibel | mvo, more precisely, not dequoted at this moment. | 14:40 |
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| jibel | mvo, couldn't we had an exclusion list of config vars ? And do not apply the DeQuoteString in the Cnf.Set call for those parameters ? | 14:44 |
| jibel | pecisk, hi, I can't reproduce. | 14:46 |
| mvo | jibel: I think that will work, could you attach a dump of the debug output please to the bugreport (from the pkgworker). I wonder if we can not quote some stuff specially so that on unquote its fully restored or have a different unquoe that ensures only what was quoted before gets unquoted. it sounds like this really what we want, that quote/unquote are fully reversible | 14:48 |
| pecisk | jibel: proxy problem? | 14:49 |
| jibel | pecisk, sorry, I cannot reproduce the proxy problem | 14:50 |
| pecisk | jibel: it gives you correct http_proxy value? | 14:50 |
| jibel | pecisk, set a proxy with user/pass. Open a new terminal and echo $http_proxy -> http://user2:p%40ssword@localhost:3128/ | 14:51 |
| pecisk | strange | 14:51 |
| pecisk | doesn't work for me | 14:51 |
| jibel | pecisk, file a report, I'll have a look. ubuntu-bug gnome-control-center. Thanks. | 14:52 |
| tseliot | PlyBuk, err... Keybuk, how are things going with plymouth? | 14:53 |
| Keybuk | tseliot: stalled for the moment | 14:56 |
| tseliot | Keybuk: can I have access to that patch/commit of yours which makes sure that deactivate and quit work correctly (just for testing locally), please? | 14:57 |
| Keybuk | tseliot: why not just pull from the branch and build that? | 14:57 |
| tseliot | Keybuk: well, what kind of problems are you facing (so that I can be prepared)? | 14:58 |
| Keybuk | oh, just irritating messages on boot ;-) | 14:59 |
| tseliot | I think I can deal with that | 14:59 |
| tseliot | ;) | 14:59 |
| Keybuk | it may not show a splash screen also | 14:59 |
| tseliot | now you're making it too easy for me to blame it on your work if my patch messes things up | 15:00 |
| tseliot | :-D | 15:00 |
| mvo | jibel: could you please have a look at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/130289/comments/4 ? | 15:00 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 130289 in apt "Encode any ":", "@" or "/" within the user and password field in proxy settings." [Medium,In progress] | 15:00 |
| mvo | jibel: unless I'm missing something it should help | 15:01 |
| mvo | jibel: actually I guess QuoteString() should always quote % to ensure its reversible on DeQuoteString() | 15:02 |
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| jibel | mvo, log attached to the bug report. | 15:05 |
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| cjwatson | lemsx1: thanks, this looks pretty widespread, I've cranked up the priority | 15:05 |
| lemsx1 | cjwatson: thnx | 15:09 |
| mvo | jibel: thanks! with or without the patch | 15:10 |
| mvo | ? | 15:10 |
| lemsx1 | cjwatson: sorry. i didn't see the text about the Lucid project... I'll follow that next time ;-) | 15:10 |
| lemsx1 | cjwatson: wtf is Lucid editor... lol good one | 15:11 |
| lemsx1 | cjwatson: I have another system that I ran into issues and I was able to fix the problem. it's an OQO (mobile device). I needed to blacklist the viafb driver. Is this something that I should file as a bug too? (hardware specific issue) | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | lemsx1: err, I'm not a kernel hacker so I don't know | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | lemsx1: I imagine you should file a bug if you're having problems | 15:12 |
| zul | pitti: when you get a chance can you review 522509 please? thanks | 15:13 |
| lemsx1 | cjwatson: against what package? or just Lucid in general? | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | lemsx1: the linux package in Ubuntu I assume, since it sounds like a kernel bug | 15:14 |
| sebner | bdrung: I think java is b0rken and that breaks eclipse: http://pastebin.com/9D3VEsXD (Just started a new project, wrote 1 line of code, pressed ENTER, crash) | 15:40 |
| bdrung | sebner: result of "xulrunner --gre-version"? | 15:42 |
| sebner | bdrung: 1.9.1.8 , I read the bug report but it doesn't crash at startup, I can create a new project without problems, it crashes when writing code | 15:42 |
| bdrung | sebner: it crash only on startup if the welcome page should be loaded, but it's the same issue | 15:43 |
| sebner | bdrung: aye, I'm seeing you are already working on it?! It's not urgent so I can wait some hours/days for the update. Else I would just have to use new xulrunner right? | 15:44 |
| bdrung | sebner: launch eclipse with "eclipse -vmargs -Dorg.eclipse.swt.browser.XULRunnerPath=/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2" | 15:46 |
| sebner | bdrung: works :) | 15:49 |
| bdrung | sebner: k, i was right :) | 15:49 |
| sebner | bdrung: :) I guess you just need to change xulrunner-dev (>= 1.9.1.3-2) ? | 15:51 |
| bdrung | sebner: nope. it was build against xulrunner-1.9.2. | 15:52 |
| sebner | bdrung: ohohoho | 15:52 |
| sebner | bdrung: so you have to hardcode xulrunner 1.9.2 in Depends? | 15:53 |
| pitti | seb128, kees: mind eyeballing http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-desktop/gnome-keyring/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/04_clean_session_keyring.patch ? | 15:54 |
| bdrung | sebner: nope - we B-D on xulrunner-dev, which pulls xulrunner-1.9.2 in lucid. | 15:54 |
| bdrung | it's dynamically | 15:55 |
| sebner | bdrung: oh, Ic. Sorry for the noise, I'm not really up to date what uses and pulls in what :D | 15:55 |
| pitti | seb128, kees: I don't have a session.keyring, so I created a fake one, and tested in various situations (within session so far; building package and doing end-to-end testing with a full reboot now) | 15:55 |
| bdrung | sebner: eclipse's xulrunner detection is totally fucked up. so we have to set it in our wrapper script. | 15:56 |
| sebner | bdrung: heh, wondering, how xulrunner can break eclipse when writing java code O_o | 15:57 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, will have a look in a few minutes when I'm done with what I'm doing now | 15:57 |
| pitti | seb128: cheers (not that urgent, I'll do more tests and then do other stuff) | 15:58 |
| bdrung | sebner: type "System." and a dropdown list will open and a "tooltip" (rendered with xulrunner) will explain its details | 15:59 |
| sebner | bdrung: ah. now I understand, thx :) | 15:59 |
| sebner | bdrung: maybe they should switch to webkit :P | 16:00 |
| Keybuk | slangasek: so, I'm thinking, let's ship lucid without a splash screen? what do you think :p | 16:00 |
| bdrung | sebner: i doubt that this will help | 16:00 |
| sebner | heh | 16:01 |
| tseliot | Keybuk: +1 :-P | 16:01 |
| bdrung | sebner: except webkit will be rewritten in java :P | 16:02 |
| sebner | bdrung: urgh, java ... xulrunner != java too | 16:03 |
| directhex | bdrung, http://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/10930739689 | 16:03 |
| slangasek | Keybuk: well, at least I'll be in London for the release sprint already and will be able to attend your funeral :) | 16:03 |
| sebner | directhex: hää? webkit-sharp!?! | 16:05 |
| bdrung | webkit-sharp and then jwebkit :D Eclipse 6 with jwebkit | 16:06 |
| Keybuk | slangasek: I think that, ultimately, as Release Manager, all failures are your fault | 16:06 |
| Keybuk | Captain is responsible for the actions of his Crew, and all that :p | 16:06 |
| sebner | Keybuk: may the grass be green above and the worms not that hungry beneath :) | 16:07 |
| jcastro | Keybuk: needs to go down with the ship also iirc | 16:08 |
| sebner | The Captain goes down with the ship! | 16:09 |
| sebner | Vice-captain (Keybuk) too of course :P | 16:09 |
| slangasek | Keybuk: I don't think I'm cut out for the navy :P | 16:10 |
| Keybuk | I'm just the cabin boy | 16:10 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| bdrung | is it a release goal to let the ship go down in ten seconds? ;) | 16:10 |
| cjwatson | Keybuk: roger that | 16:10 |
| Keybuk | cjwatson: I'm having a dpkg-source failure | 16:18 |
| Keybuk | and it keeps whining to me about v3 | 16:18 |
| Keybuk | dpkg-source: info: use the '3.0 (quilt)' format to have separate and documented changes to upstream files, see dpkg-source(1) | 16:19 |
| Keybuk | dpkg-source: unrepresentable changes to source | 16:19 |
| Keybuk | etc. | 16:19 |
| hyperair | Keybuk: it means you've modified a binary file. | 16:19 |
| Keybuk | hyperair: how does v3 help here? | 16:19 |
| hyperair | Keybuk: 1.0 only supports textual changes | 16:19 |
| hyperair | Keybuk: v3 consists of multiple tarballs. | 16:19 |
| hyperair | debian.tar.gz, orig.tar.gz | 16:20 |
| hyperair | v1 consists of diff.gz, orig.tar.gz | 16:20 |
| hyperair | the diff.gz can't contain binary changes | 16:20 |
| hyperair | so you'll have to uuencode whatever it is you're doing | 16:20 |
| Keybuk | right | 16:20 |
| hyperair | or use 3.0 | 16:20 |
| Keybuk | how can debian.tar.gz contain binary changes | 16:20 |
| Keybuk | is it just unpacked over the top? | 16:20 |
| hyperair | i think so | 16:20 |
| hyperair | not sure | 16:20 |
| Laney | it can't | 16:20 |
| hyperair | oh it can't? | 16:20 |
| Laney | it only touches stuff in debian/ | 16:20 |
| hyperair | well at least debian/ can contain a binary file | 16:20 |
| Laney | you can have binaries in there though | 16:20 |
| hyperair | unlike in v1 | 16:20 |
| Keybuk | Note that the debian tar‐ | 16:21 |
| Keybuk | ball must contain a debian sub-directory but it can also contain binary | 16:21 |
| Keybuk | files outside of that directory (see --include-binaries option). | 16:21 |
| Laney | oh, cool | 16:21 |
| Keybuk | Laney: dpkg-source(1) disagrees with you | 16:21 |
| Keybuk | ok... | 16:21 |
| Keybuk | so how do I make one of these source packages? | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | Keybuk: debian/source/include-binaries is your friend | 16:21 |
| hyperair | echo "3.0 (quilt)" > debian/source/format | 16:21 |
| hyperair | and dpkg-source handles the rest | 16:21 |
| hyperair | oh you'll have to disconnect your patch system from rules | 16:22 |
| hyperair | and control | 16:22 |
| hyperair | dpkg-source will take care of that | 16:22 |
| * cjwatson digs up an example | 16:22 | |
| hyperair | and only uses quilt | 16:22 |
| Keybuk | I don't have a patch system | 16:22 |
| cr3 | is there an equivalent to lshal -m (for monitor) since the halsectomy? | 16:22 |
| Keybuk | (there is no debian/patches) | 16:22 |
| Keybuk | cr3: udevadm monitor | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | you don't need one | 16:22 |
| Laney | looks like you just put the filename of the binary in debian/source/include-binaries | 16:22 |
| cr3 | Keybuk: thanks | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | so, for openssh | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | $ cat debian/source/format | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | 3.0 (quilt) | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | $ cat debian/source/include-binaries | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | debian/ssh-askpass-gnome.png | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | that's only in bzr, I haven't uploaded that yet | 16:23 |
| Keybuk | can I put wildcards in there? :p | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | browser-history has one too | 16:23 |
| hyperair | Keybuk: try it and see =p | 16:24 |
| Keybuk | :D | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | I don't think so | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | you can build with --include-binaries once, and it'll dump them all in there | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | you can probably even put that in debian/source/options | 16:24 |
| Keybuk | any idea how to make pristine-tar not convert the bz2 to tar.gz ? | 16:25 |
| cjwatson | if you're completely confident that your clean rule works :) | 16:25 |
| cr3 | I used to be able to troubleshoot brightness issues by echoing 50 (for example) into /proc/acpi/video/.../brightness, but one netbook on which the brightness keys don't work returns: write error: invalid argument | 16:27 |
| Keybuk | that's probably why the brightness keys don't work, then | 16:29 |
| cr3 | Keybuk: I'll try to rebout with noacpi | 16:29 |
| jibel | mvo, with the patch | 16:30 |
| \sh | UDS-M approved by company , means we are coming :) | 16:42 |
| cody-somerville | w00t | 16:44 |
| \sh | well...one week sponsored by our employer | 16:46 |
| kees | pitti: reading it now... | 16:52 |
| kees | pitti: looks good to me. | 16:54 |
| pitti | kees: thanks | 17:00 |
| === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] | ||
| tseliot | pitti: is there a bug report about fglrx and jockey already? | 17:08 |
| pitti | tseliot: for what? | 17:08 |
| tseliot | pitti: to be able to install it again | 17:08 |
| pitti | tseliot: ah; I'm not aware of one | 17:08 |
| Keybuk | do we care about fglrx anymore? | 17:08 |
| tseliot | Keybuk: yes, in some cases we do | 17:09 |
| tseliot | pitti: ok, I'll look for it and file a new one if necessary (and assign it to me) just to keep track of things | 17:10 |
| pitti | tseliot: thanks | 17:10 |
| tseliot | np | 17:10 |
| === sconklin is now known as sconklin-lunch | ||
| kees | pitti: re bug 546436, it's esata (I commented on the bug too) | 17:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 546436 in udisks "Does not detect LUKS storage device as hotpluggable" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/546436 | 17:11 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow|capoeira | ||
| pitti | kees: ah; itz kernel bug then; AFAIR I saw a similar one, I'll dupe it | 17:11 |
| kees | pitti: how is it a kernel bug? I didn't think it could distinguish between "internal" and "external" for esata, so it was simply the sudden appearance that should trigger the mount? | 17:12 |
| primes2h | tseliot: you mean this? bu 494699 | 17:12 |
| primes2h | bug 494699 | 17:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 494699 in fglrx-installer "Does not support current Lucid kernel (2.6.32) or xserver (1.7)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494699 | 17:12 |
| primes2h | tseliot: ups, sorry | 17:13 |
| primes2h | tseliot: misunderstand | 17:13 |
| pitti | ah, that was bug 153768 | 17:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 153768 in hal "External SATA (eSATA) removable disk detected as system-internal" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153768 | 17:13 |
| tseliot | primes2h: I guess this one would be more like it: bug #496225 | 17:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 496225 in jockey "Jockey cannot install fglrx driver" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/496225 | 17:13 |
| pitti | kees: well, what is "sudden"? | 17:13 |
| primes2h | tseliot: sure ;-) | 17:13 |
| pitti | kees: did that ever work? the original bug (153768) is ancient | 17:14 |
| pitti | kees: so, I don't think we'll ever be able to automount esata drives which are already plugged in during boot, but I think we can do something in udisks for stuff that got plugged in at runtime | 17:15 |
| psusi | does it matter when it is detected? either way it should show on the places menu shouldn't it? | 17:17 |
| tseliot | Keybuk: any ideas on this? bug #532436 | 17:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 532436 in nvidia-graphics-drivers "nvidia driver sometime does not load at boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532436 | 17:17 |
| tseliot | or can I assign it to plymouth? | 17:17 |
| kees | pitti: yes, worked in jaunty and karmic fine | 17:18 |
| kees | pitti: right, I'm plugging it in at run time | 17:18 |
| pitti | kees: I'd really be interested in a devkit-disks --monitor-detail and udevadm monitor -e --udev logs from karmic when you plug in an esata drive | 17:18 |
| pitti | I don't see how this should ever have worked, TBH, but maybe there was something funky | 17:19 |
| Keybuk | tseliot: sounds like a kernel issue | 17:21 |
| Keybuk | "driver does not load" => linux | 17:21 |
| tseliot | Keybuk: driver loads if plymouth is uninstalled => plymouth, no? | 17:22 |
| === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch | ||
| Keybuk | no | 17:22 |
| Keybuk | still linux | 17:22 |
| tseliot | heh | 17:22 |
| tseliot | Keybuk: can you comment on that in the bug report, please? | 17:23 |
| Keybuk | if it's the glx driver, it's in the right place | 17:23 |
| kees | pitti: hm, will that work off a karmic liveCD? | 17:23 |
| pitti | kees: yes, it should | 17:23 |
| tseliot | Keybuk: ok, thanks | 17:23 |
| kees | pitti: okay, I'll give it a shot. | 17:23 |
| pitti | kees: cheers | 17:23 |
| Keybuk | all he's done by uninstalling plymouth is change a race | 17:23 |
| Keybuk | what he's describing is "driver doesn't load sometimes, but does if I restart sometimes, add sleep, etc." | 17:24 |
| Keybuk | and | 17:24 |
| Keybuk | more to the point | 17:24 |
| Keybuk | The problem is still happening at random, but not at frequently since I uninstalled plymouth. | 17:24 |
| Keybuk | DkmsStatus: | 17:24 |
| Keybuk | nvidia-current, 195.36.03, 2.6.32-15-generic, i686: installed | 17:24 |
| Keybuk | nvidia-173, 173.14.22, 2.6.32-15-generic, i686: installed | 17:24 |
| Keybuk | he should stop hating freedom and use nouveau <g> | 17:24 |
| * psusi has been very pleased with the mesa drivers on his radeon these days | 17:25 | |
| tseliot | Keybuk: oh, I misread what he said. You're definitely right | 17:28 |
| * tseliot -> off for the night | 17:28 | |
| === bdrung_ is now known as bdrung^2 | ||
| psusi | Keybuk: my initial tests using e2defrag to pack the ureadahead file list at the start of the disk showed a few seconds shaved off the boot time and a moderate increase in peak disk throughput under karmic... need to test on lucid next since karmic appeared to still spend a lot of time doing things other than read the disk during boot | 17:33 |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| pitti | slangasek, cjwatson, Keybuk: so, I completely read bug 445852 now, including the upstream linux/atasmart bugs; I have some things I'd like to try now, but given how much this wreaks havoc, what would you think about disabling dk-disks-probe-ata-smart in the udev rules for now in a karmic update? (then people can turn it on again if they want, but it'd be on the safe side); we only use it for | 17:38 |
| pitti | monitoring SMART status and failures (which would then stop working, of course) | 17:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 445852 in libatasmart "devkit-disks-probe-ata-smart causes HSM Violations on SSD, and potential hardware death" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445852 | 17:38 |
| pitti | but at least we can investigate and test solutions in lucid a bit more thoroughly | 17:39 |
| bdrung | where is the best place for asking question about developing a C library? | 17:40 |
| slangasek | pitti: that sounds suitable for SRU to me | 17:41 |
| pitti | we could then consider re-enabling it in karmic later on, once we have a suitable fix in libatasmart | 17:41 |
| Keybuk | slangasek: btw, you still haven't sent your plymouth enter patch upstream | 17:42 |
| slangasek | Keybuk: right - what's the recommended method of forwarding it to upstream? | 17:42 |
| Keybuk | slangasek: git format-patch usually | 17:42 |
| slangasek | oh hey, life on #plymouth, that's different | 17:42 |
| slangasek | Keybuk: and send it where? | 17:43 |
| Keybuk | plymouth@lists.freedesktop.org | 17:43 |
| slangasek | thanks, that was the bit I was missing :) | 17:43 |
| slangasek | ok, will send that off today/tomorrow | 17:43 |
| Keybuk | I have a couple of bug fixes to send too | 17:44 |
| * Keybuk wonders what the right term for a double-brown-paper-bag is | 17:44 | |
| slangasek | "double-bagging" doesn't quite encompass it | 17:46 |
| Keybuk | hey, if it keeps you safe ... | 17:46 |
| pitti | slangasek: uploaded to karmic-proposed queue; do you have a minute to review? (it's just commenting out the udev rule, should be fairly safe) | 17:55 |
| slangasek | pitti: ok, checking | 17:55 |
| slangasek | pitti: should there be a task on this bug against devicekit-disks for tracking? | 18:02 |
| pitti | slangasek: there is | 18:03 |
| pitti | slangasek: but for karmic only | 18:03 |
| pitti | slangasek: for lucid I'd rather fix it in libatasmart, and dk-disks doesn't exist in lucid | 18:03 |
| slangasek | pitti: oh, so there is; having trouble seeing it through all those declines, heh | 18:03 |
| pitti | yeah, smart probing was new in karmic, so I declined all the ealier requests | 18:03 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck | ||
| slangasek | pitti: ok, accepted | 18:05 |
| pitti | slangasek: thanks | 18:05 |
| slangasek | yes, it would be nice if people wouldn't randomly nominate bugs for series where it didn't exist | 18:05 |
| === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno | ||
| kees | cjwatson: heh, we collided on bug 547016. | 18:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 547016 in gcc-4.4 "gcc optimization problem related to varargs" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/547016 | 18:08 |
| Keba1 | hi there | 18:17 |
| Keba1 | how many bug jams have been partipicated (including the one starting tomorrow)? | 18:17 |
| === sconklin-lunch is now known as sconklin | ||
| === radoe_ is now known as radoe | ||
| _lemsx1_ | launchpad appears to be having problems? I can't report a bug | 18:30 |
| ScottK | _lemsx1_: #launchpad is the place to complain about that. | 18:30 |
| _lemsx1_ | should I post error IDs and stuff like that here or this is not the right place to talk about launchpad :-) | 18:31 |
| _lemsx1_ | ScottK: ah, thanks | 18:31 |
| kees | pitti: hrm, karmic didn't automount either. I wonder if I'm remembering this from my laptop where the drive is USB. trying on jaunty now... | 18:33 |
| pitti | kees: jaunty had hal, and that didn't see them as hotpluggable either | 18:35 |
| pitti | the bug was originally filed against hal | 18:35 |
| kees | hmpf | 18:37 |
| kees | pitti: yeah, jaunty doesn't even see it appear. | 18:38 |
| pitti | kees: so it's evolution in the sense that karmic sees it but requires a password, lucid sees it and requires no password | 18:39 |
| kees | well, it does require the password -- I just still had the session.keyring on disk. ;) | 18:39 |
| pitti | kees: well, the encryption password, yes | 18:39 |
| kees | so, I simply misremembered since this drive has both eSATA and USB interfaces | 18:39 |
| pitti | kees: I mean the policykit authorization | 18:39 |
| pitti | kees: I'll talk to davidz if he agrees on considering such devices non-system internal if they appeared much later than the system boot | 18:40 |
| kees | oh, okay. well, lucid is clearly better than before since the drive is there, and if I click on it, it prompts for the encryption password. it just doesn't _auto_ mount it. | 18:40 |
| kees | which I can live with. | 18:40 |
| === dpm is now known as dpm-afk | ||
| * psusi wonders why gparted stopped seeing his dmraid disks in lucid | 18:57 | |
| * ccheney thinks apt-get should be a bit more verbose on downloading new multi tar sources | 19:41 | |
| ccheney | it currently says stuff like the following: | 19:41 |
| ccheney | Get:2 http://approx/ubuntu/ lucid/main openoffice.org 1:3.2.0-4ubuntu1 (tar) [14.6MB] | 19:41 |
| ccheney | Get:3 http://approx/ubuntu/ lucid/main openoffice.org 1:3.2.0-4ubuntu1 (tar) [13.2MB] | 19:41 |
| YokoZar | Is there another mesa update coming soon? It's been a while and there's a "fix committed" but I'm waiting on | 19:43 |
| === MacSlow|capoeira is now known as MacSlow | ||
| crimsun | NCommander: please provide the necessary amixer output for bug 451635 to be fixed | 20:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 451635 in alsa-utils "alsamixer defaults need adjustment on dove boards" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/451635 | 20:00 |
| crimsun | I'm currently blocked on someone with access to the hardware to actually provide the info in the bug report... | 20:01 |
| NCommander | crimsun: ah, I got it right here | 20:03 |
| iscape | hi there, tangogps and probably some other apps broke due to the upgrade of gpsd to 2.92. anything i can do to fix this? | 20:05 |
| iscape | i am the dev of tangogps | 20:05 |
| NCommander | crimsun: attached, does that help? | 20:06 |
| NCommander | (oh, amixer, I might have given you the wrong file) | 20:06 |
| iscape | debian has a fix already in, but it needs to propagate | 20:06 |
| ScottK | iscape: If you can file bug(s) with patch(es) to fix the problem, we can get them sponsored into Ubuntu. | 20:07 |
| ScottK | iscape: Or if just syncing an update from Debian makes more sense, that's good to know too. | 20:07 |
| crimsun | NCommander: yeah, that asoundrc snippet is not useful, unfortunately. Specifically what will help is your specific mixer settings for all devices. | 20:07 |
| iscape | ScottK: just syncing | 20:07 |
| NCommander | crimsun: ugh, I might need to do a clean reinstall, I *really* mucked around with my setup. How can I dump amixer settings? | 20:08 |
| iscape | I'll file a bug against tangogps then. do i need to put some keyword in to trigger syncing? | 20:08 |
| crimsun | NCommander: also, that user-specific asoundrc bypasses PA completely - the implication is that any verification you've done won't apply at all to PA, which I presume is part of the equation if PA is being used | 20:09 |
| crimsun | NCommander: amixer > txt | 20:09 |
| ScottK | iscape: You needs to say it needs syncing and then subsrcribe the ubuntu-sponsors team to the bug for review. | 20:09 |
| NCommander | crimsun: I removed pulseaudio to get sound working | 20:10 |
| crimsun | NCommander: booting from a live image and dumping amixer after you've made whatever necessary changes will help, too | 20:10 |
| NCommander | crimsun: I've not been able ot get sound working short of removing pulse :-/ | 20:10 |
| crimsun | NCommander: err, there are two separate parts, though the bug report doesn't make that clear | 20:11 |
| crimsun | that bug seems titled to deal only with alsa-utils portion | 20:11 |
| NCommander | crimsun: ok, what do you need specifically, I *really* want this fixed :-) | 20:11 |
| crimsun | NCommander: what I've requested above regarding amixer | 20:11 |
| NCommander | crimsun: I may need some helpin trying to get this to work, I am not had any luck with ALSA configurations in the past :-/ | 20:12 |
| crimsun | NCommander: which part specifically? 'cat /proc/asound/cards' should show the specific card, which you can then use with 'amixer' or 'amixer -Dhw:X' (where X is denoted in brackets from /proc/asound/cards) | 20:14 |
| NCommander | crimsun: does that change the default? The problem is that audio tries to go out something that doesn't appear to be pinned out on our SoC | 20:14 |
| crimsun | NCommander: amixer by itself (with no addition parameters beyond -Dfoo) does not change the default | 20:15 |
| NCommander | crimsun: right, the problem her eis I just need the default changed (and MAYBE HW switch, not sure yet) | 20:15 |
| crimsun | NCommander: are you implying that hw:0,0 is not correct but that hw:0,2 is? | 20:16 |
| NCommander | crimsun: yes, I am | 20:16 |
| crimsun | ugh, that's a completely different bug :( | 20:16 |
| NCommander | crimsun: welcome to the world of ARM sound | 20:17 |
| crimsun | ok, I've opened an alsa-lib task for the necessary addition | 20:17 |
| NCommander | crimsun: your santiy may be left at the door | 20:17 |
| GrueMaster | NCommander: crimsun: Thought I'd pop over and see what trouble I can cause with dove as well. | 20:17 |
| NCommander | crimsun: there are two different sound out devices on this board that hang off DoveDB. Analog Out, and Headphone Out | 20:18 |
| crimsun | NCommander: so, in short, for your particular Dove board (and it isn't Y0, I presume?), the control has nothing to do with ... | 20:18 |
| NCommander | crimsun: pulse sees these, but I can't get either to work through pavucontrol | 20:18 |
| NCommander | crimsun: this effects Y0->X0 | 20:18 |
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| NCommander | We only care about X0 however | 20:18 |
| crimsun | NCommander: can you please attach your amixer dump? | 20:19 |
| NCommander | crimsun: stand by, I'm rebooting off a clean livefs so you can see how it is "out of the box" | 20:19 |
| crimsun | NCommander: thanks | 20:19 |
| GrueMaster | NCommander: You are not entirely accurate with your HW description. There are two devices, DoveDB and mv_i2s1. | 20:21 |
| NCommander | asac__: *sigh*, looks like something we broke | 20:21 |
| NCommander | asac__: works properly with pre-compiled Marvell kernel | 20:21 |
| GrueMaster | The DoveDB has 5.1 on the RCA jacks, and a separate HP & Mic jack. | 20:21 |
| NCommander | er, EWRONGCHANNEL | 20:22 |
| asac | NCommander: bcc_test works? | 20:22 |
| asac | wow | 20:22 |
| NCommander | asac: no, the dmesg isn't crack | 20:22 |
| asac | ah | 20:22 |
| asac | try bmm_test | 20:22 |
| asac | not sure if i put that in the -dev package | 20:22 |
| asac | otherwise just spin locally and run | 20:22 |
| asac | oh | 20:22 |
| crimsun | GrueMaster: does X0 still need 'Line HP Swap' unmuted? | 20:23 |
| GrueMaster | yes, for the HP jack to work. | 20:23 |
| GrueMaster | It is a simple toggle. No volume control. | 20:24 |
| crimsun | ok, that change is queued already in the linked bzr branch. I'm waiting to see if anything else needs to be set for alsa-utils. Now, does the default device also need to be set to hw:0,2? | 20:24 |
| crimsun | for reference, that's the conversation above with NCommander and in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-lib/+bug/451635/comments/12 | 20:25 |
| GrueMaster | Not sure. Where would I set that? (note - it's been a while since I worked on alsa). | 20:25 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 451635 in alsa-utils "alsamixer defaults need adjustment on dove boards" [High,Confirmed] | 20:25 |
| crimsun | GrueMaster: NCommander mentioned that he had to create an ~/.asoundrc with the contents in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-lib/+bug/451635/comments/12 | 20:26 |
| iscape | ScottK: bug filed - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tangogps/+bug/547228 | 20:26 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 547228 in tangogps "need syncing for compatibility with gpsd 2.92" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:26 |
| GrueMaster | I'm looking at it. | 20:26 |
| NCommander | crimsun: booting up clean now | 20:26 |
| GrueMaster | crimsun: Here's the amixer output. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/401357/ | 20:27 |
| crimsun | GrueMaster: right, so that's 1) without ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf, and 2) muted, correct? | 20:30 |
| crimsun | (at least the latter is implied by 'Line HP Swap' being muted) | 20:30 |
| GrueMaster | correct an all accounts. | 20:30 |
| crimsun | GrueMaster: great. And unmuting 'Line HP Swap' results in audible sound through the hp jack next to the serial port, correct? | 20:30 |
| GrueMaster | I am currently getting audio through the rear RCA jacks (which would be the normal speaker out on an Intel board). | 20:31 |
| GrueMaster | yes | 20:31 |
| crimsun | GrueMaster: all right, so which is considered the "default" desired output jack? | 20:31 |
| GrueMaster | It also mutes the rear "front speakers" ports. | 20:31 |
| NCommander | crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu.com/401359 | 20:31 |
| GrueMaster | That I don't know. I guess the hp since most people in the group don't have rca to 3.5mm hp converters like I do. | 20:32 |
| crimsun | asac: any guidance on ^^ ? | 20:33 |
| NCommander | GrueMaster: I can test here, I have a TV at Lex I can plug the dove in | 20:33 |
| GrueMaster | NCommander: I can test all plugs. | 20:33 |
| GrueMaster | (and have been since Y0). | 20:33 |
| NCommander | crimsun: so does that help at all? | 20:38 |
| crimsun | plars: ping, which of the rear rca and hp jacks should be considered 'default'? | 20:38 |
| NCommander | crimsun: there's only one HP jack | 20:38 |
| crimsun | NCommander: yes, it corroborates GrueMaster's earlier statement here and in the other bug report | 20:38 |
| ccheney | grr checking extracted OOo into bzr takes forever :-\ | 20:39 |
| plars | crimsun: right, only one hp jack, not sure on the RCA, I don't have proper cables to check those but I know GrueMaster has looked at it before | 20:39 |
| crimsun | plars: ok, so the necessary change for that on the alsa task is already queued, and I'll upload that momentarily. It doesn't look to need an alsa-lib task, then. | 20:40 |
| GrueMaster | crimsun: The board layout is "similar" to a standard 3stack, except instead of 3 mini plugs in the back, there are 3 pairs of RCA jacks for Front, Surround, and Center/LFE | 20:40 |
| crimsun | GrueMaster: ah | 20:41 |
| asac | crimsun: so you got all info you needed? | 20:46 |
| asac | doko_: does icetea need to link against libxul.so? | 20:46 |
| crimsun | asac: presuming that the hp jack is the desired default, yes | 20:46 |
| asac | doko_: maybe we should try to use mozilla-plugin.pc now that they redid stuff for 3.6? | 20:46 |
| asac | crimsun: yeah. i think thats a reasonable choice. thanks for your help. | 20:47 |
| NCommander | crimsun: if you have a patch today, I'd be glad to test it | 20:50 |
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| crimsun | NCommander: I just uploaded alsa-utils 1.0.22-0ubuntu4 for that | 20:56 |
| crimsun | NCommander: note that it's effected on a fresh install/live image boot. Otherwise you'll need to nuke /var/lib/alsa/asound.state first | 20:57 |
| NCommander | crimsun: WIN | 21:00 |
| GrueMaster | crimsun: what change to asound.state was made? | 21:01 |
| GrueMaster | Just for quick sanity testing. | 21:02 |
| iscape | ScottK: thanks | 21:03 |
| ScottK | iscape: You're welcome. Thanks for letting us know. | 21:03 |
| iscape | ScottK: it was an ubuntu user who notified me :) | 21:04 |
| crimsun | GrueMaster: I don't have a machine to generate one, but the value for that switch should be true instead of false | 21:05 |
| GrueMaster | got it. That's what I thought. | 21:05 |
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| pitti | kees: wrt. bug 542372, are you okay with python3.1 in main? (it doesn't seem very security prone to me) | 21:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 542372 in python3.1 "MIR for basic python3 stack" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/542372 | 21:32 |
| kees | pitti: bleh. why so late? what needs it? | 21:36 |
| kees | pitti: python gets a fair share of updates, so having lots of copies gets unhappy. | 21:37 |
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| robert_ancell | mdke, do you know about the state of gnome-user-docs? Should it be updated to 2.29.2 or does it need patching for Ubuntu? | 22:31 |
| nixternal | is jockey broken for everyone? | 22:46 |
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| psusi | Keybuk, in bug #460906 it seems that you and Kees Cook are saying that the real fs should have the link so won't change, but they don't... I made a snapshot of my root and when I rebooted, was running off the snapshot instead of the original and this is not supposed to happen | 23:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 460906 in lvm2 "disk/by-uuid/foo symlink points to snapshot rather than the origin" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/460906 | 23:05 |
| doko_ | asac: $ ldd /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/IcedTeaPlugin.so |grep libx.*found | 23:10 |
| doko_ | libxul.so => not found | 23:10 |
| doko_ | libxpcom.so => not found | 23:10 |
| asac__ | doko_: you tried initially to build with just mozilla-plugin, right? | 23:13 |
| doko_ | asac: I think so. it's in the configure.ac (or acinclude.ac) | 23:14 |
| psusi | soren, actually seems you said you were going to fix this... but still is doing the wrong thing in lucid | 23:19 |
| snow_ru | hi | 23:52 |
| snow_ru | How can the developer add his program to ubuntu repository so that other people can use it ? | 23:52 |
| micahg | snow_ru: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages | 23:53 |
| snow_ru | thanks | 23:55 |
| snow_ru | micahg, should all packages in MAIN be compatible with 64Bit system ? | 23:57 |
| RAOF | Almost certainly, yes. | 23:57 |
| nixternal | superm1: b43 or sta for the mini 10v? | 23:57 |
| micahg | snow_ru: doesn't work like that...main means supported free software | 23:58 |
| RAOF | Failing to build on amd64, or failing to work on amd64 is generally indicative of stupid code :) | 23:58 |
| snow_ru | it implies that the package may not work for 64 bit system ;) | 23:58 |
| snow_ru | RAOF, built and worked are two different things ;) | 23:59 |
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